@@helloworld-dh6hq The joke is DOT damages the enemy when they attack, so if you don't let the enemy attack then the DOT is useless. The thing that is stopping the enemy to attack is welt's skill and imprisonment
@@decapulet if I remember correctly, when he immobilize the enemy with his skills (when he attacked the enemy before the fight started) he deals extra imaginary damage (also after he uses his ultimate) Edit: and Welt's ultimate can skip some of the enemy's turn.
@@fingermi7571 I’ll gladly be called childish if it means I won’t be as petty as you. Seriously, this is the first time I’ve heard this complaint, just switch languages or mute your device if you are really that bothered by something as trivial as this. Plus, doesn’t hoyo do this for every one of its games?
@@pancrepe5576 the game literally just released...have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe...that they might make sense in the future. If it bugs you, play muted or in a different language.
@@darellinares3956 I got Bailu from the new player banner; otherwise my Natasha wouldn't be benched. I ended up maxing Hook, and she hits like a nuke with Asta's support
This is the previous Herrscher of Reason who fought against Sirin and trained Bronya So makes sense why he’s hella busted Just look at how op of a support Herrscher of Truth is.
Ain't he the "Former" HoR? Since Reason is basically the weaker version of Truth, and also the fact that he passed it onto Bronya which is why we have Truth now?
This reminds me of what happened yesterday lmfao. I was able to attack an enemy 24 times before their turn arrived. I was able to freeze them continuously with Gepard while boosting speed with Asta over and over again 😂😂
Gepard is stronger than people say.. I guess it's because on paper he just sounds really good, but then you put him into practice and it turns out he's super good instead. Bro actually does not let you take damage
@@catpoke9557 and he doesn't die too if you stack def and AND if he somehow does he just pull an uno reverse card and said "sike bish ya thought?!" And has a frickin second phase with half health
@@gloomy9728hook has so much dmg increase scaling in her kit especially in her Eidolons it's actually ridiculous. She's a Destruction that's able to hang with Hunt Path units like Dan Heng and Yanqing. Considering her playstyle, she's more of a Hunt, but I understand she's the Klee of HSR so Destruction is just too perfect to pass on.
@TechnoBacon55 I'm assuming they're talking about Simulated Universe World 6, where Cocolia is the boss. She summons her icicles and Bronya in phase 2. The main gimmick is that everything is weak to fire, and Hook is pretty much agreed to be one of the best characters to bring.
She's realizing That we're just like her,trying to make history But she can't judge,the right from wrong When her guard is down We think we can both agree That violence breeds violence But in the end,it has to be this way -kafka from the turn based gacha game "honkai star rail"
Also had the same experience but using Asta, Bronya, Seele, and Tingyun I got an achievement as a bonus called It Take Three since Asta, Bronya, Tingyun are all from The Harmony path. I can't stop laughing the whole fight.
I use a surprisingly efficient meme build kind of like this except instead of never letting the enemy get a turn they never get to damage or kill me. And even if they do manage to damage me i immediately fully heal it lol Gepard, Natasha, fire trailblazer, and Tingyun. Its invincible
Not really if he took like all the best blessing from Preservation Path. Gepard ult + MC shield + whatever blessings he has (especially the one gives shield every turn ended) his R (the Path Ult) gonna hit like a truck.
Funny thing is, I had physical trailblazer, Natasha, Sampo and Jing Yuan. Funny thing is, Kafka has lightning (electro in genshin terms) resistance and the character to deal the final blow after getting to her last phase was Jing Yuan, who’s element is lightning
The relics were not main reason why I extended my turns, it was mostly because of the buffs I selected inside the Simulated Universe. A list of those buffs can be found at the end of my video with the DoT team if you are interested.
Unlike that powercrept whalebait nightmare this game is designed around the mechanic properly DFFO is a good example of a game that never usually needed to give bosses resistance to debuffs and has absolutely crazy turn manipulation, though that game is nasty af for other reasons
@@dansphalt9544 seele's talent help her do that, but the whole team go faster than enemies is so lol. But this is SU right? I guss they choose the path of hunt
I think this is possible because we are at low ranks. On higher ranks both we and our enemies will have higher stats, but their speed stats could probably outpace ours... Or this guy just upgraded his relics to the ceiling and had a speed advantage because of that (and not only because of buffs)
How it feels playing with Sushang and Welt on hunt path with remembrance blessing that freezes the enemy after being attacked 5 times and curio that regenerates energy.
Same. Specifically, the fight against McBurn where I just Delayed him for nearly the entire fight with just Rean and Alisa on support (giving him CP and SPD Up)
“I summon pot of Greed to draw three additional cards from my deck.” “Pot of Greed, Draw 3!” (That's not what it does) *That is what it does* “I summon Pot of Greed to draw three additional cards from my deck.” (Ohmygodman) “And I summon Pot of Greed to draw three additional cards from my deck.”
i was wondering what i was thinking of when i read the title, initial thoughts were “yugioh?” because “THERE IS NO NEXT TURN” or “DORO MONSTA CARDO” but then i remembered the funny bone guy from the hit game undertale
This reminds me of modern yu-gi-oh gameplay. Just sitting there waiting for your enemy to finish their turn, just for them to pull out Exodia on the first turn
Nice idea dude. Welt is kinda OP, of course if you know how to use him. I don't have him, but I survived Kafka with sacrificing MC as fodder to her. 🤣🤣 😅
While our characters have paths like Abundance, Destruction, The Hunt, etc, the enemies sometimes play the special path of "The Victim"
Okay that make me chuckle. good one
lmao thats genuinely creative
The Prey would be more fitting
Then we have sans over there somehow dodging all attacks with the path of the "Murderer"
LMAOOOO THAT WAS GOOD
building a DOT team and then never letting your enemy attack is a 5000 IQ play ive ever seen one
Its not about winning, its about sending a message
damage lost, swagger gained
How can DOT prevents enemy to attack?
@@needsmctherapy1447 ah got it. Thanks
@@helloworld-dh6hq The joke is DOT damages the enemy when they attack, so if you don't let the enemy attack then the DOT is useless. The thing that is stopping the enemy to attack is welt's skill and imprisonment
Kalfa: So what you buff yourselves, we'll get you next turn-
Us: THERE IS NO NEXT TURN
nice yugioh refference
Me when I use my deck to set up fot 10 minutes doing endless chain and combo just to use one monster to do big boy damage:
Is it because of Welt's passive? Sheesh that's pretty annoying tho (for the enemies of course)
@@kurokoro8615 what passive does he have? the imprisonment? or it has some kind of additional effect?
@@decapulet if I remember correctly, when he immobilize the enemy with his skills (when he attacked the enemy before the fight started) he deals extra imaginary damage (also after he uses his ultimate)
Edit: and Welt's ultimate can skip some of the enemy's turn.
The unskippable cutscene experience
Don't forget the incessant childish lines the characters spew out EVERY time they use a skill. This game was made for children
@@pancrepe5576 wah wah wah
@@fingermi7571 I’ll gladly be called childish if it means I won’t be as petty as you. Seriously, this is the first time I’ve heard this complaint, just switch languages or mute your device if you are really that bothered by something as trivial as this.
Plus, doesn’t hoyo do this for every one of its games?
@@pancrepe5576 the game literally just released...have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe...that they might make sense in the future.
If it bugs you, play muted or in a different language.
@@pancrepe5576 except sampo his line is very much in character for the man he is
I love how Natasha, the abundance path healer, pulls out a GRENADE LAUNCHER to fight. 😂
she's a healer, but...
i mean,, she is the leader of wildfire
Mfw her last Eidolon releases her limiters and she gets hp scaling added to said grenade launcher for whenever she basic attacks
@@Harmonia96 i got her E6 yesterday and i love it for this reason lol
@@darellinares3956 I got Bailu from the new player banner; otherwise my Natasha wouldn't be benched. I ended up maxing Hook, and she hits like a nuke with Asta's support
"Turn based rpg"
With some real-time mixed in 😆😅
in to “Based rpg”
Turn based with speed can be broken.
Rpg? The only role the enemies will be playing as are the victims
Yup and its always my turn. never stop playing skip your turn cards.
Whoever came up with the Welt's kit HAS to be smoking something hella strong.
Cause like, WHEN DOES BRO'S SLOW END???
Also the fact that he's the only debuffer that slows enemy too
Hes so 🤤🤤🤤 wish they let people have playable males in honkai impact
@@kimalkim7718 He's not 🤔 Dan Heng slows
This is the previous Herrscher of Reason who fought against Sirin and trained Bronya
So makes sense why he’s hella busted
Just look at how op of a support Herrscher of Truth is.
@@ShangMaoo any Light user can possibly slows enemy
This is the equivalent of an OTK setup in Yu-Gi-Oh, except that you're fighting against an AI so they don't ragequit before you finished your setup.
This is a otk setup in any turn based card game
Otk just means one turn kill so this is literally an otk, not just like one.
That one guy and his annoying link deck
No it's a turn skipping or FTK set up. OTK can only happen after your opponent has already played.
lol ive seen it before, i will definitely rage quit if that happens to me
Sun Tzu once said:
End a battle in a singular strike, and stun-lock em lmao
"skill issue"
-sun tzu
Truly was ahead of his time.....
Even it's turn based, it feels like honkai impact experience
Throw everything you have, just dont let enemies fight back
🤣
Indeed.
@@nathanael9159 the enemy can't fight back if you don't give them an opening
@@hiirozero3623 Yes.
Exactly
Just wait for enemies that have immunity for those type of skills or too much speed
Never gonna give you turns, never gonna let you play~
Never gonna give you the chance~
To fight back~
you know the rules say goodbye
Only gonna skip your turn, and hurt you.
We're no strangers to rng
darude sandstorm
that depressed Kafka at the end 💀
"You dont need a healer if you never get hit"
Battle systems with active turn manipulation mechanics be like-
Welt is too OP.
(Lore-wise, because he still the Hersscher of Reason.)
Ain't he the "Former" HoR? Since Reason is basically the weaker version of Truth, and also the fact that he passed it onto Bronya which is why we have Truth now?
He already gave the core to Bronya tho while they were in the Sea of Quanta, he's just using the Star of Eden now.
@@fefegain APHO bronya gave the core back to welt
I'll just pretend i can understand what the comment section is talking about
*i stop playing HI3 even before himeko died
@Mysteriously Unknown Person cmiw. But hare think that bronya doesn't use its full potential
This reminds me of what happened yesterday lmfao. I was able to attack an enemy 24 times before their turn arrived. I was able to freeze them continuously with Gepard while boosting speed with Asta over and over again 😂😂
Gepard is stronger than people say.. I guess it's because on paper he just sounds really good, but then you put him into practice and it turns out he's super good instead. Bro actually does not let you take damage
@@catpoke9557 and he doesn't die too if you stack def and AND if he somehow does he just pull an uno reverse card and said "sike bish ya thought?!" And has a frickin second phase with half health
@@catpoke9557 Agreed, his shield and his technique actually make you unable to take any damage lmao
@@emranizzudin7289 man's too angry to die holy shit
I was able to attack at least 30 times because of 10 blessings in hunt path.
Ah yes, the turn based gameplay HSR is known for
Imagine how much dot damage Kafka would take ☠️☠️☠️☠️
Prob would've insta killed 🤣
she has 3 phases lul
imagine sanpo instead of natasha was there...his ult buffs the damage of dots xD
@@dracotheshadowphoenix but sadly the DoTs wont trigger as long as the enemy ain't getting their turns :0
@@crispyvegie8033 He take nihility blessing that proc random DOT on hit tho.
if computers could rage quit, this is how you'd make it happen
"My turn?" *lights cigarette* "Haven't heard that name in a long time".
Imagine the difficulty if they had octopath's guaranteed to go first in the next rotation after being broken.
Basically Imaginary and Quantum weakness break effect
And I've been abusing it since I got welt
Star of eden hits really good
Im happy seeing other people use hook she’s underrated
I know right. She carried me in the cocolia fight
Hook is one of the rate-ups this banner so it's likely that people are using her with some stacked Eidolons.
@@gloomy9728hook has so much dmg increase scaling in her kit especially in her Eidolons it's actually ridiculous. She's a Destruction that's able to hang with Hunt Path units like Dan Heng and Yanqing.
Considering her playstyle, she's more of a Hunt, but I understand she's the Klee of HSR so Destruction is just too perfect to pass on.
@@Aringki that’s… a level 30 fight that you can clear with any characters or am i missing something
@TechnoBacon55 I'm assuming they're talking about Simulated Universe World 6, where Cocolia is the boss. She summons her icicles and Bronya in phase 2. The main gimmick is that everything is weak to fire, and Hook is pretty much agreed to be one of the best characters to bring.
With the power of The Hunt’s requiem, you will never reach the truth that is your turn
They’re just standing there, taking it all. 💀
Realising
STANDING HERE I REALIZED YOU WERE JUST LIKE ME TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY
-Kafka in this situation probably
Trapped in black hole what you expect
Man I love these replies
She's realizing
That we're just like her,trying to make history
But she can't judge,the right from wrong
When her guard is down
We think we can both agree
That violence breeds violence
But in the end,it has to be this way
-kafka from the turn based gacha game "honkai star rail"
I’m so utterly confused of how this is possible but oml this is amazing
kafka pose at the end tho 😂
Me watching Seele kill 9 enemies without anyone else getting a single turn
Never let them -know your next- move
everyone was hating on welt on release but he is fr a clutch character in some fights.
When you want to build Nihility path but ends up got many Hunt paths.
Seele: "Not even my teammates get a turn!"
Also had the same experience but using Asta, Bronya, Seele, and Tingyun
I got an achievement as a bonus called It Take Three since Asta, Bronya, Tingyun are all from The Harmony path.
I can't stop laughing the whole fight.
I use a surprisingly efficient meme build kind of like this except instead of never letting the enemy get a turn they never get to damage or kill me. And even if they do manage to damage me i immediately fully heal it lol
Gepard, Natasha, fire trailblazer, and Tingyun. Its invincible
how long does each fight take you?
Not really if he took like all the best blessing from Preservation Path. Gepard ult + MC shield + whatever blessings he has (especially the one gives shield every turn ended) his R (the Path Ult) gonna hit like a truck.
@@ReiAnikaAyanami let's just say if I were in this universe, I'd be one of the abundance lunatics
This is how you play Honkai: Star Rail.
I like this controlled chaos! LOL
man I can't wait to play again... been a whole year already >< 14 days and we back in!!!
Yes Kafka "stellaron hunter" while Makime is "chainsaw hunter"
So I'm not the only one who was reminded of Makima by Kafka
Ah yes the perfect example of the modern yugioh and old yugioh where you do the combos and your opponent gets sent to the shadow realm
Man, I don't even think this is impossible... until this.
this is the reason why i want uncle welt (and he is cool af)
kafka is no longer dominating one of our characters but now shes getring dominated
No, mommies are supposed to dominate you
Welt Slow debuff is hella strong, never giving the enemy turns, its always your turn
They say Kafka is still trapped to this day
Kafka: How could you? I made your adventures possible
then u should not let that happen in the first place 🤣
Serval's Voice is fire lol
freeze teeam in another universe
Funny thing is, I had physical trailblazer, Natasha, Sampo and Jing Yuan. Funny thing is, Kafka has lightning (electro in genshin terms) resistance and the character to deal the final blow after getting to her last phase was Jing Yuan, who’s element is lightning
Yugioh players when they heard about a new turn based game that has some tactics involved
2:08 even kafka is done with this and just tiredly surrenders
He can't be damaged if the enemy doesn't attack :)
This is just Cold Steel all over again
Rean's Arc Slash...
What relics did you use? Here I thought Selee was broken, but whatever you did here was even more broken...
The relics were not main reason why I extended my turns, it was mostly because of the buffs I selected inside the Simulated Universe. A list of those buffs can be found at the end of my video with the DoT team if you are interested.
@@RYLADT this buff are wild
Seele in fact is more broken. Tingyun and bronya buff and I one shot gepard in world 3 with 100 percent shield and like 70 percent health
@@NightsFenris Seele, Bronya, Tingyun combo is absolutely busted
They are but very squishy.
lmaooo
Seele + Sushang + Welt = We can do that as well
Seele : finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary
Those who have Bronya and Seele know this all to well.
the closet thing to "dodging" in turn-based game
I like how at the beginning of their first turn the two side enemies just disintegrate to the stacked dots
I remember there is this one blessing that keep increasing your speed as long as you dont received damage
Me: Excited to see Kafkas Ult again
Welt: I dont think so
This is exactly the type of stuff that ends up with all bosses having resistance to all debuffs like in Epic Seven.
Unlike that powercrept whalebait nightmare this game is designed around the mechanic properly
DFFO is a good example of a game that never usually needed to give bosses resistance to debuffs and has absolutely crazy turn manipulation, though that game is nasty af for other reasons
@@UreksatheJade epic seven old game, no wonder the power creep work that way
Game like this speed is everything. But i would never imagine devs allow this
Bro, one of the game missions is to have Seele attack enemies for 5 times in a row before the next character’s turn.
@@dansphalt9544 seele's talent help her do that, but the whole team go faster than enemies is so lol. But this is SU right? I guss they choose the path of hunt
I think this is possible because we are at low ranks. On higher ranks both we and our enemies will have higher stats, but their speed stats could probably outpace ours... Or this guy just upgraded his relics to the ceiling and had a speed advantage because of that (and not only because of buffs)
This is only possible with SU buffs. In any other mode, this is probably impossible
This is some SMT/Persona veteran level play... Definitely helps me get interested in the game :O
"it's not gonna BE your turn. ever." - Sans undertale
I genuinely feel bad for the boss after watching this
Yeah Welt feels so busted with the right setup
OH MY GOSH! You are not giving Kafka a 100 percent chance to breathe once!
How it feels playing with Sushang and Welt on hunt path with remembrance blessing that freezes the enemy after being attacked 5 times and curio that regenerates energy.
Nice to see the ToCS cast doing their normal thing :P
If I was the boss I'm calling BS 🤣
I love it when I play a turn based game where the turn is based on my turn.
Still new to theorycrafting, how does this work?
0:26 Aizen WTF ?!
I still didn't get Welt...
How dare you hurt my Queen Kafka.
This is the equivalent of a ToD combo and a stark reminder that I'm still without Welt on my account
I like how this dude didn’t even bring a single dps of the element
Helloo can you show your Hook and Welt builds please? :)
No turn rpg
This remind me with AT Reduce Rean in Cold Steel 2 lol.
Same. Specifically, the fight against McBurn where I just Delayed him for nearly the entire fight with just Rean and Alisa on support (giving him CP and SPD Up)
*After reading the title of the video, you start to feel your sins crawling on your back
This is pretty much Yu-Gi-Ohs meta rn
Ahh yes, this reminds me of my Junk Doppel deck from the Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds era around 13 years ago. Good times, good times.
I need the build for this
“I summon pot of Greed to draw three additional cards from my deck.”
“Pot of Greed, Draw 3!”
(That's not what it does)
*That is what it does*
“I summon Pot of Greed to draw three additional cards from my deck.”
(Ohmygodman)
“And I summon Pot of Greed to draw three additional cards from my deck.”
This is the equivalent of an older sibling playing PvP against a younger sibling
I love welt so much he's so good 🤩
Ahhh, Like Welt his enemies will never walk in turns again. 😢
bro violated mommy kafka :(
Lol that's why I run a Seele, himeko, herta, march 7th team. When its their turn, it's really my turn.
i was wondering what i was thinking of when i read the title, initial thoughts were “yugioh?” because “THERE IS NO NEXT TURN” or “DORO MONSTA CARDO” but then i remembered the funny bone guy from the hit game undertale
This is perfection
This reminds me of modern yu-gi-oh gameplay. Just sitting there waiting for your enemy to finish their turn, just for them to pull out Exodia on the first turn
The simulates universe is a magical place where literally cutting a planet in half can deal wayyyy less dmg than a grenade launcher shell
Ryladt: "You will never arrive at the truth."
Hoyoverse: this is a turn based rpg game
This guy: rules are meant to be broken
Nice idea dude. Welt is kinda OP, of course if you know how to use him. I don't have him, but I survived Kafka with sacrificing MC as fodder to her. 🤣🤣 😅
Other turnbase rpg would have been me watching the boss killing my team without letting me have my turn
-> the director has shown to be a Trails fan
Yeah that makes sense, delay away
Omg no wonder the UI feels inspired from it!
kafka the whole fight: AGHH~ 😫