Marina Abramović & Ulay On Their Meeting at MoMA | Louisiana Channel
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2022
- “You were not just another visitor. You were my life.” Performance artists and former couple Marina Abramovic and Ulay share their thoughts on the historic moment in MoMA when the two met after many years of separation.
Marina Abramovic had a retrospective exhibition, “The Artist is Present,” at the Museum of Modern Art in New York back in 2010, which later turned into a documentary with the same name. During a performance, her former partner in art and life, Ulay, turned up and the emotional meeting between the two became a viral sensation. The clip showing the couple reuniting has more than 20 million views on RUclips. And there is a simple explanation for the clip's reaction: “It’s so human. Everybody has love and separation.”
“It’s been great, it’s difficult, it’s been hell, it’s been love, it’s been hate, it’s been everything. But I never forgot that moment in MoMA when I broke my rules, and I never break my rules, ever, ever, ever,” Marina Abramovic explains, and Ulay elaborates: “There was no concept for it. There was no preparation. There was no rehearsal. There was no predicted end.”
Ulay (Frank Uwe Laysiepen, b.1943 - d.2020) is a German artist, who was based in Amsterdam, Holland, and Ljubljana, Slovenia. Ulay received international recognition for his work as a photographer, mainly in Polaroid, from the late 1960s, and later as a performance artist, including his collaborative performances with Marina Abramović from 1976 to 1988. His work has continuously dealt with politics, identity, and gender. In 2016 Schirn Kunsthalle in Frankfurt, Germany, held the first major retrospective show of his work ‘Ulay Life-Sized.’ In 2020 the Stedelijk Museum held the largest-ever, and first international post-humous, retrospective exhibition of his work ‘Ulay Was Here.’
Marina Abramović (b. 1946) was born in Belgrade, former Yugoslavia, and is now based in New York. She began her work as a performance artist in the early 1970s and is now regarded as one of the most important artists in the field. Her work explores the relationship between the performer and audience, the limits of the body, and the possibilities of the mind. Her retrospective ‘The Artist is Present’ at MoMA, New York, in 2010 gave her a wide international breakthrough. In 2017 the retrospective exhibition ‘The Cleaner’ was shown at Moderna Museet in Stockholm and the Louisiana Museum of Modern Art in Humlebæk, Denmark, among other places in Europe. Marina Abramović is set to have a major exhibition at the Royal Academy of Arts, the first-ever UK exhibition spanning her life’s work.
Marina Abramović and Ulay were interviewed by Kasper Bech Dyg in upstate New York at Marina Abramović’s home over ten days in August 2018 for the film ‘No Predicted End.’
Directed, edited, and produced by Kasper Bech Dyg
Camera: Jakob Solbakken
Additional Camera: Kasper Bech Dyg
Music: Simon Dokkedal
Sound Mix: Torsten Larsen
Colour Grading: Klaus Elmer
Graphic Design: Louisiana Design Studio
Copyright: Louisiana Channel, Louisiana Museum of Modern Art, 2022
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“You was not just another visitor, you was my life” 😞
thank yew
You were*
So she is a woe.
'People are often unreasonable and self-centered; forgive them anyway. If you are kind, people may accuse you of ulterior motives; be kind anyway. If you are honest, people may cheat you; be honest anyway. If you find happiness, people may be jealous; be happy anyway. The good you do today may be forgotten tomorrow; do good anyway. Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough; give your best anyway. For you see, in the end, it is between you and God; it was never between you and them anyway.'
-Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu
Exactly my thoughts and thank you! And to add one more, that sums everything up. If you have a heart of a child, some may laugh at you, or betray you. Be a child anyway!
I needed to read this. Thank you
Your just not a visitor you are the love of my life. ❤️🥺
That "thank you" when she tells him all these things is so cold... Especially when you know he cheated on her with his translator during the great wall of china walk. And he stopped walking the last 3 days and waited for her instead. Their relationship started to fall apart because she refused to conceive a child on the day of his mothers funeral. Then he cheated repeatedly and conceived a child with the translator DURING the break up walk which originally was supposed to be a marriage walk. And she manages to look at it fondly and he says...thanks😅
do you have any sources on this? i’ve done lots of research for my final exam, but i never saw these details. i’d love to read up on it though. i just remember he justified himself by saying “well SHE cheated with a friend of ours, at least i didn’t do THAT”… -.-‘
@@clarasteuerwald2397 from her own book and interviews he gave towards the end of his life also admitting that to do what they did you have to be extreamely selfish and that he left his wife and children when they were teens after giving them all the tools he considered they would need in life and explaining to them why he had to go. She goes into details about it, how for her motherhood was incompatible with the level of dedication needed to her craft, her work and personal relationship with him. So that last performance together on the great wall of china was even more significant because regardless of the state of their relationship they always went all in and this time he didn't. He didn't walk until he saw her he walked until he found a nice looking spot for the picture and well, as for the cheating, given that very soon after he gave birth to a child with said translator, easily proven.
She also stole his work, credited only herself, and didn't pay him his fair share as per their contract. He had to sue her for his own legacy, and he won. He died a few years later.
Not defending anything Ulay did. Just saying. It was ugly.
Let it go, you sound more hurt than Marina herself. Forgiveness is a thing, they made peace.
She had three abortions because children would interfere with her art.
I cried so hard at this.
Why?! Wasn't even touching.
@@Weonlyknewoneway You haven't seen the original, that's why. It's Ulay and Marina Abramovic's 'The Artist Is Present' exposition. They hadn't seen each other for years. Then again, it's contemporary/abstract art, so you need to be a big fan of art to connect with it :)
I'm just so happy they reconnected and made peace, with each other, before it was too late. They had a very special love and life together. It's clear that they never stopped loving each other. You can actually see how good it was for both of them to be reconnected and be friends again. It seems, in a way, like they became family to each other in the end. There was a healing, for both of them, that took place when this happened.
@@tomstanford7997 totally! and it shows our fragility as humans, which is actually a pretty beautiful thing ^^
@@really_brokenkid4477 yes! You are right.
Love is the only thing that can break all the rules
im so glad I found this
the moment i realize that... Ulay was already gone...
R.I.P. Ulay 🙏
Thanks for the advice.
„You was my life“…wow)) how many of us can say those words looking in ex‘s eyes?
If it was true love and mistakes were made along the line back then.. At very old age, most of those folks can... I've seen it with my own eyes.. Most men true love is hidden deep within themselves. Due to everybody having their own lives and marriages with kids and family. Some rather keep it to themselves to not cause drama and be home wrecker for the living because Mistakes were made back then where some couldn't turn back and had to live with it and make the best of life.
Rest in peace Ulay
The pain in his face was palpable 😔
My heart is breaking.
this is great to see, always wondered what happened after
Don't go away 🥺
She's a true role model. Our art teacher had a sculpture of her in our class.
Look at her friends, look at what she's into, she is currently 76 and looks 50 something. She uses Adrenochrome, she is not a role model, she has parties with naked models around imitating sexual abuse and satanic rituals. She's about as much of a role model as Jeffrey Dahmer is
@@deletedaccount175BROTHER ITS ALMOST LIKE THESE PEOPLE DONT HAVE A BRAIN AT ALL
You both captured "Humanities Reason For Being"..... to make those connections that are so strong that go beyond time...space it is Ethereal. I mean I don't understand how you both have not been given the Nobel. Love is simply the WINNER no matter the time no matter the era. That BOND never dies!!!
Some say life is beautiful but only when you have someone to share love with .
And sometimes life is so unfair that it breaks ur ❤️ into pieces they got separated and met again but ulay died thru cancer in 2020 RIP .🙏
Beautiful people
I see comments,peoples opinions. And I respect that,I may not agree but I respect peoples opinions. Because of that I hope you'd do the same for me. You don't need too but you can read if you like.
I never really knew about marina,i had seen the MoMA video on tiktok but I never really knew about her art. Now I have a better understanding of what she has done in the world and her art. I didn't feel connected to her,she has her life and I have my own,we share different stories. But I felt like we shared a common sadness,a sadness that the world feels,the sadness that makes you feel like no one understands. Her art wasn't stupid to me,it was a show of society. It shows that people will do terrible things,not just murders,rapists,kidnapper,and more. But actually 'normal' people. That if there were no consequences than the world would be filled with people who'd do whatever they want. I'm no saint,I never will be but sometimes it disgusts me that I live in a world were people like that and me are under the same category of a "human" The world is a hard place,and what do I know. I'm only 15 and I've been through a lot like everyone else had,and i will only go through worst as i get older. But I know that this world isn't what i thought It was like when I was growing up,sometimes I wish I would've stayed thinking the world was a great place. I don't know what I'm trying to say here but Marina showed people what the world really was by her art,not many people can do that. This wasn't just 'stupid poetry' nor was it 'just a women in her feels' the art shes created was the world. she portrayed the world in art. Whether she did it for money or fame or whatever reason doesn't matter because she was able to put out art that showed things that can't be explained in words. This is long and probably some bullshit that doesn't make sense but I have nothing else to do on a Sunday at 1:46 pm. thank you for listening to my Ted Talk.
Hello Sara, I feel your 15’s (I’m 42 now). If by this early you already know Marina Abramovic you’re probably a beautiful and artistic soul. If I could give you an advise as I’d like to do to my 15’soul, I’d say be kind to you, forgive people quickly and concentrate your energy on your art. Everything you can not have control, just let it go. You are beautiful and I’m sure you are smart. Be bold, be light. Cheers.
@@isadoragiuntini9031 thank you so much for this. No one’s said such kind words to me,especially a stranger. Your advice is really helpful. I’m actually going through something right and I needed to hear this. I’ve been hurt and abused by someone in my life who was supposed to protect me,about 2 years ago I left the situation thankfully and I’m rebuilding myself and life. Even though it’s been almost 2 years since I’ve had a hard time moving on. I carry a lot of anger and want of revenge towards the person who hurt me. And hearing your advice really helped me. It’s funny because my mom and therapist tells me similar things all the time but I think you saying it made it actually hit me. Crazy how someone can tell you the same thing so many times but when someone else,someone I don’t know personally,says the exact same thing,I finally understand. Because I’m so young people don’t take what I say seriously,they think I’m too young to understand the world and pain. Your comment made me feel like my feelings were validated no matter my age. Like someone finally listened to me and didn’t make me feel wrong or dumb about what I say. This is long but I want to truly say thank you. Billions of people populate this earth but I hope to one day meet you and thank you in person. You are very kind and I know that you have a great heart,thank you so much.
@@saraislam8602 Hey Sara you don't need to thank me ;) I just spoke from the heart and really wish you the best life you can live. Please feel a big hug of love and encouragement from someone that got hurt (probably) the same way as you. And at the very same age! Wild right? Maybe we are not that stranger to each other 'cause something has made me write to you before sleeping yesterday. [SENSITIVE CONTENT ALERT!] From 14 to 16 I was abused by my best friend's father (that was supposed to protect me too). My father wasn't there for me, my mom didn't know what to do so I decided for myself and ghosted my dear friend so I'd never see nobody from that family or that house anymore. We used to pass the holidays together on the beach and it was hard to just "try to forget and be far from all of it". A strange shame and guilty followed me for years, even If I was a child. I'm telling you this because I feel like I'm "reaching that 15 years girl" by talking to you. I'm very glad you have a therapist and your mom by your side, that's very important!! Take your time to heal, take care of your mind and body (and voice! be sure you are always heard), find your passions, a sport or dance that makes you feel good. I was not aware of the importance of this tools and tried to move forward putting things under the carpet. And you know what? Many other shit happened all this years but I know it all started there. Don't get me wrong, this is not a sad story, I am ok and my life is amazing (like Abramovic I had the chance to work with Bob Wilson in more than one play) but it took me so long to get here. That's what I'd like you to get from this. Many insecurities and fears blocked me and got in the way of the best version of me. I don't want that to happen to you. Find people to help you feel safe and empowered, enjoy small things step by step and forgive you for everything because the pain you're feeling is not your fault. But you are responsible for you and what you do with your pain. I wish from the bottom of my heart that you find a way to be the best version of you not today but tomorrow. Don't hold on your life your laugh, what life wants from us is courage. Let's get inspired by Marina Abramovic and do intense beautiful pieces of art. I just got back from a vacation where I went to the same beach to forgive everything. I must say I feel better now. Sending you my best, Isa. Xoxo.
@@saraislam8602 your generosity, desire to write more and more words, NO LESS AND THANK YOU, to contact with other's souls is one of most beautiful beauty. for my eyes and in general. maybe your soul is wise and old, like a gold frame of pictures in museum, just more ancient soul. but. I think, youth it's completely purely godlike. it's really important time, your adult people just jealous or...I don't know. being teenage girl it's a eternal honeymoon. even when everything around is just beyond stupidness, you know, I think. you feel like you have something luxurious, made from diamonds or most best soft velvet in the world. youth have something really hard like gold and big crystal clear diamond in heart, youth kinda protected and ruled by some big or divine, poetic force, that really cares, loves, respect, consciously choose to being on side of youth. children and teenagers is a really gods
@@witchestoast8347 your so sweet,thank you so much! I honestly didn’t think anyone would read my comment at all,I actually had started to forget about it😂. Thank you for reading the words I wrote. I don’t have many friends,none really,so sometimes I just write comments to explain how I feel. I tend to get nervous when talking to others because I was in many situations in the past where people thought I was weird or too loud at times. I just get excited sometimes but I’m also very quiet other times so my personality tends to confuse people. When I write comments I try to think that the other people in the comments are my friends,even if we don’t share the same opinions at times. I actually like to read other peoples ideas and beliefs even if I don’t agree with them because I like to try and understand the other side of things. It’s very fascinating to me to listen to other peoples opinion and way of life. Sometimes it just reminds me that people aren’t always mean to be mean. That sometimes people really believe the things they do and say are right. Idk if this makes sense,here I go again writing this long paragraph. Again thank you for reading my words,I truly appreciate it!
This is beautiful
💜💜💜😢
Ulay.. He could only say 'thank you'.. ERKEKLER KAPATILSIN....
"You were my life"
Just another day in my life.
Beautiful ♥
One woman is enough for any man ...that woman is enough for any man ..❤🌹
Wrong. There are more women than men. By definition, its not 1 for 1.
😢😢😢
Side note the song that was inspired by your lives is my meditation beginner
♥️✊🏾💐
❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏😊😘
💔💔💔💔
This was one of the most moving pieces of art I had ever seen. Marina is just so real
und du blöd
what a dope.
Qué pasa que te gusta el satanismo😅
Eso no se puede llamar arte eso es un delito
Habiendo tanta cosa grande, inmensa, genial. Como pueden haber tarados que se paren en esto...
It is really interesting
its only men
commenting on this. Still.
And what I see, has no clue to what not being afraid, of ones own Feelings or Awareness of them, or Real Authenticity or Honesty is. That shakes me everytime, in the world of today.
And I love to see this, it just Is
She was tortured as a child by her sociopath/narcissist mother. She didn't heal herself from that which is why she attracted parasite/sociopath/narcissist Ulay. She THOUGHT she loved him, but in reality she didn't love herself. You cannot have True Love between 2 people unless you love yourself first. Her lesson in life was to learn to love herself first & foremost. ALL Empaths are attracted to sociopaths/narcissists because Empaths are HEALERS & sociopaths/narcissists are BROKEN. Soulless. They cannot be healed. If one doesn't understand the dynamics of the energy exchange between these types of people then it is the Empath that suffers the most, because they have empathy, remorse and a conscience. Ulay did not. He was an energy vampire. A parasite. A user. A coward. A mimic. He MIRRORED her characteristics. It's what narcissists/sociopaths do because they are EMPTY inside.
Ulay was trying hard to hold back ..
Armado o no pero me estremecen
RIP
😢
… and then he sued her for using portions of their art without his consent… and he won
Seriously????
@@linaline547 unfortunately… yes
@@gilmourwaters ooo. That's horrible
Why would he even do that !!🥺
@@linaline547 not sure 🤷♂️ … I just read the story on the meeting at her event and I guess he discovered she was capitalizing on work they did together and he didn’t like it especially when he wasn’t notified. He wanted his fair share of their work , I’m guessing she objected… and off to court they went
And she for, gave him for that too, and was there when he died
Who this man?
He was the only Man who she broke all the rules for and she was the Only woman he would go back for after all these years one more time to tell her he loves her before he leaves this world. A man's true love lies really deep down within himself even if he has a wife and family. Men lived a complex life and they make mistakes that they have to live with and some they can't turn back.
Googe image of Michael Maxwell, ' deceased' eldest brother of Ghislane Maxwell and eldest son of Robert. It is Marina!!!
How old is she again???
70 years old
@samisharkas6190 78*
Baby blood does wonders
Did she sue him for 300k for showing up at her performance?
He sued her what😂
Is man?
Wait they were supposed to have never seen each other again? I get Ulay showing up for her performance but that should have been it, a fleeting wordless glimpse into the past. Ulay was right about Marina, she sold out and started doing anything to maintain clout. The funny thing is Ulay started selling out too later in his life. Looks like principles die so easily when money is an issue 😂
They can do whatever they want
The love of money is the root of evil
@@Ioveladybug you need money to live. I loooooove money
HO LETTO ALCUNI POSTH .POVERA AMERICA E PER QUESTO CHE SIETE CADUTI COSI IN BASSO. ORA CAPISCO BENE ,COSA VI È SUCCESSO.
Come on guys, you planning everything.
you see.. that's not even remotely important. even if it's staged, it's like a movie. if you open yourself to the deeper meaning of it, and you don't start arguing whether it's "real" or not, you get an immense feeling of meaning.
@@nicolovigiak9281 I'm agree, the problem is use a lie for sell and get money and prestige and attention. I would like see this work to be able to sustain itself with the arguments you mention, but apparently they were not enough and they focused on a marketing strategy. Art is much more than that.
What kind of ....this is weird
How come she looks like this at 76 years old? I think she uses biotherapy
nein adrenochom die alte mumie
SHE USES BABY FORESKIN
It's called adrenachrome
@@amyrosi454про ботокс не слыхали?
I tought Michelangelo, Titian, Rembrandt, Van Gogh, Picasso, were Immortal artists, with this video i discover trash Is art
Two people meet each other and want to make us believe in art? Come on guys, that's the most common thing in the world.
Art reveals the meaning first when you're apart.
You simply didmt get it,but its ok. Some will never get it.
@@catarinarfaria go eat the pizza from her gate
@@catarinarfaria there are two kind of people in this world: artists and olaf sagers
You’ll never get the magic this woman brings to the world
Look at all these "aRtiSticS" fans clowns in the comments saying BS like "tHis WaS pUrE bEaUtiFuL aRt, oMg iM cRyiNg"
🐊 Tears will not make me like your art 😜
WE REJECT ALL RELIGION AND CONTROL FOREVER!!!!
Who cares
Art is dead.
A lot of plastic surgery in this video. Maybe plastic surgery Is a form of art🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She should do something like this with the Kosovo Albanians. Trying to apologize for the genocide of her country what they did back in the 90s and killed sonmany innocent people. In hoppe to heal the scars and bring to countries nearer.
So self indulgent and dramatic... Come on, time to move on just like the way everyone else in the world does. 🙄
in a negative world where nothing matters, the only thing you should be is self indulgent and dramatic. you shouldnt try to pull people down to your version of reality just bc you’re unable to see importance in presence
@@headphones601 thank you for saying this
@@headphones601oh piss off, you clowns remind of those English majors that think there is a "dEePeR" meaning in the way an actor dresses, or colors in a book/movie scenes. You all are dramatic AF
Saranismo
You was my life 😂😂😂
"Him...was a man wonce"
😂
0:12 “When… give me your hands… when I broke all my rules, and I never break my rules.” ❤️🩹 how could his reaction be so dry?
And then her “Wait don’t go away”. Even thinking of the people I have had hurtful endings with, I can’t imagine being so eager to pull away and not savour that moment of connection. That made me so sad. Just me personally though.
It did feel really cold. I imagine from what I have seen in him is that he was never great with emotions. He had them, of course, but just wouldn’t let them linger. And Marina is so full of emotion it’s probably overwhelming. I don’t think she ever fell out of love with him. Even in the video footage for “lovers” she’s crying and he looks like he wants to comfort her but seems very emotionally distant.
Probably because she breaks her rules. Nobody in a relationship can say this seriously without being a saint, and this woman is a demon worshipping occultist. If she broke her own rules as an occultic witch, what fuckin rules did she break as a human for him to walk away? Marina is too well known to believe she's an innocent person in her married life. Giving this level of trust to someone clearly unhinged is suicidal, her touch feels disgusting to him most like.
I think he was very ill by the time of this interview. His facial twitches and weight loss are signs of his deterioration. I don’t believe he was fully as cognizant he was earlier. A type of good-bye conversation. Closure for her.
Did she sue him for 300k for showing up at her performance?