[211] How Lock Picking Works: Learn How To Identify Set Pins
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- How To Master Setting Pins While Picking Locks
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This video will help you learn more about the different pins states, it focuses on: set pins, binding pins, and springy pins. After watching this video you will have had a close-up view on how lock picking works and hopefully it will help you conceptualize the concepts. As always, if you have any questions feel free to ask!
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HelpfulLockPicker when you set the fifth pin at 4:45, you’re keeping tension on the tension wrench right?
Better yet, every time you set a pin you’re applying more pressure to keep it set?
With standard pins I usually keep roughly the same amount of tension and with security pins you need to vary it
Wow! That is another gorgeous cutaway lock, I had to watch the video just to see it in action. Thank you for helping to grow the locksport community by actually showing how simple locks actually are.
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thank you so much! I’ve been watching beginner videos for hours but you’re the first to explain what I’m supposed to be feeling for and listening for. I’m still struggling to open a clear practice padlock, but now i at least know where i am in the lock! Thank you!
Hey Did you make it yet i started 2 days ago and learnt how to rake but still struggle alot with Single pick locking and the other technics
Hey Did you make it yet i started 2 days ago and learnt how to rake but still struggle alot with Single pick locking and the other technics
Very well presented!!
Will help beginners to progress a lot faster because you have identified the states of the pins in a very understandable manor.
Great video!!!
Thank you for the kind words! I hope it will be helpful to beginners 😀
The best guide on the very basics of single pin picking in my opinion
Thank you for the kind words :)
Great video. The cut away lock is much easier to view pin states in than the acrylic ones which get light glare when filming.
I'm very happy to have this one, I am working on giving a few more different types down the road. What I really like about this one as you can see the keypins which you couldn't in my schlage one
@@HelpfulLockPicker where can I get a lock like that one
This is the most helpful video about the pin-states, and lockpicking in general, that I've seen. Thank you, you've made things much clearer
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helped :-)
Thanks for this video!
I started picking 3 days ago and already been doing it for hours.
This video made me pick a lock which I didn't before, and understanding the 'feeling' of the feedback like you explained really helps so much!
How is it going now?
Thank you for teaching/demonstrating this! I needed a "feel breakdown" badly.
Thanks for another awesome tutorial. I love the concept of you teaching and explaining, instead of just a video of a successful pick
Thank you for the kind words, and I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation :-)
HelpfulLockPicker This one, and the previous week of overset pins.
I may complete the series and do one on underset pins in the next few weeks as well. I am really liking this new cutaway lock! Thank you for the feedback!
I would like to personally thank you. I was trying to pick my lock to my bathroom, which I don’t remember locking, and after 6 tries I kept getting it to only go a qtr of the way. Once I got all the pins down and kept track of them, I realized that I was indeed picking the lock but simply turning it the wrong way! I only knew that because I knew what each pin was and how it felt to have them set!
Weird you don't use privacy locks
I’m a beginner and this is one of the best-presented videos I’ve stumbled across!
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps! Welcome to the hobby :-)
This is probably the clearest explanation I've seen yet on the basics of how to pick a lock
Thank you for the kind words!
Sooooo helpful. Have a cutaway from sparrow but I’m still waiting on my first set of picks so I’m really glad I saw this before I begin thank you HLP!
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps
Thank you, this is very helpful and this is exactly how I feel so far.
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps
Just got a beginner, super cheap toolset with some see through locks and this vid def helped give me some ideas for how to practice and get more of a feel for things, rather than kinda blindly fumbling around until I get it unlocked
Thank you for sharing
Excellent video. I'm new to lockpicking and I've been getting frustrating for the exact reason you stated at the beginning. I just kind of poke a round and sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Now I understand what a set pin should feel like. Thank you for posting these videos.
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps!
The single most helpful video I've seen yet in terms of description and visual detail. Thank you.
Thank you for the kind words!
Thank you so so so much for the visual. It extremely difficult for me to learn and I think a lot of people when almost all of the videos tell you what to do without seeing what to do visually so you can apply that in your mind. I love how you teach us the details. People like lock picking lawyer say do this and this and this but when you go to do it you run into all these problems. It might be nice for views and content and get people interested in locksport but they’re horrible for teaching. His videos are like TikTok in preschool and yours are like going to collage.
This is super great detail and exactly what I have been needing to see as I embark on this new hobby. Thanks so much
I was doing the exact same as you described. Sometimes I got it open but had no idea why. Great video, thanks!
Thanks for checking it out!
Thank you so much just opened my first 5 pin lock because you said to feel the pins as it's open I wasn't able to pick it spp before you told me how to know if somethings overset or set I didn't know what I was feeling for ty so much!!
Congrats on the success!
I bought a beginners lockpicking set a few years back, but it quickly ended up on my shelf. I watched a lot of YT videos about lockpicking back then, so when I recieved it I was already sure what to do. Still I sat down, to carefully read the manual that was included. The set consisted of 5 locks, each lock scaling up the number of pins (1 to 5 pins).
I easily opened the 1st and 2nd, but then I got stuck. The pins just didn't behave like I thought they would. Sometimes I could feel them, sometimes I couldn't, sometimes they would have force behind them, sometimes they would just hang loose. I watched more RUclips videoes, trying to get answers to my problems but nothing helped. I kept "practicing" but I never really felt that I improved. I tried altering the amount of tension on the tension wrench, the amount of force on the pick, the different types of picks, but nothing helped.
Sometimes I would get a lock open by luck, but when I tried to replicate my method a second after, I would be stuck for 10 minutes before giving up. Most of the time I would quickly reach a point, where all the pins where either completely pushed up, or hanging loosely. At this point I couldn't think of anything but releasing the tension, which made me start over every 10-30 seconds perhaps.
I wasn't expecting it to be easy, but I was expecting to feel a senge of progression. I never did. I feel as useless a lockpicker now, as before. Once in a while I take the set down again, dust it off, and give it another go. But then the feeling of getting nowhere returns. I don't know what to do.
This is my set:
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Thank you for sharing your story
@@HelpfulLockPicker haha you are welcome, but I was actually looking for help 😅
@@fanrik9583 Practice more. It is super challenging- Closest analogy is learning to juggle. It takes a lot ofvskill to add to the number of items juggled, and it isn't a linear scale of difficulty from say, three items to four. Though juggling is proprioception and hand/eye coordination, (not the same thing) the similarity with single pin picking lies in the added complexity of each pin added to the lock. It isn't a completely new skill with each added pin, but it is substantially harder. I just stumbled across this video, the cutaway is supe-useful for a beginner. I'd keep watching here, Bosnian Bill's channel (recently retired) and of course LPL's videos to give you inspiration.
If you like to read check out Deviant Ollam's book "A Practical Guide to Lockpicking" . There are plenty of diagrams that can help you visualize your work and progress.
If you are considering more tools, I have Petersons, a bit more expensive than some knock-off kits but you will get what you pay for. A serrated tensioner can really help you.
Above all, have fun!
I've been picking on and off for 24 years and have always been a sloppy, accidental picker.
I have a friend who picks like this. He could beat me every time, no matter how often I picked the lock.
Maybe I'll finally learn the right way now. Lol.
One thing to add, the torque wrench you're using is in a much better position to give the pick room to feel. Wished I'd know this sooner.
Thank you for the kind words but open is open. Its cool you have been doing it for so long
Just want to say thanks for this video i was walking a friend through it but you do a much better job here than i could have with a clear lock.
Very comprehensive tutorial.Well done!PS:While I was a habitual raker and never thought that I’d become good at SPP’ing during my late teenage years,until I discovered a technique which really helped me become proficient at it that some refer to as “sweeping”,in which I would put my hook pick in to the lock and just make contact with the last pin and then slowly drag out it while just barely grazing the pins until it hit a hard pin(I.e The binder)
I like doing that technique as well, it can be very helpful. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you , good tutorial , good slow explanation , thanks , 70 yr old beginner , thanks moe
70 you old beginner & yes when I can open the easiest lock , I feel it's just blind luck . Good video, so look for resistance ,push & then the key pin gets floppy . Thanks moe
This is the kind of stuff I wish I knew when I first got started, great stuff buddy!
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad you think it will be helpful for beginners :)
Your comment about how the very common older, worn, dirty locks might not give the usual 'feel' or 'click' is very true. It would be very helpful to demonstrate opening an old worn lock.
I would probably add a good amount of lubricant to it and then try to rake it.
Really helpful video , never even considered just feeling how springy the pins are , as a new starter it’s just the very basics you don’t think about , someone who has been doing this a long time forget to tell the basics or explain it very simplistically for us newbies so thanks
I am glad it helps 😊
Very Good Technical Instructional. You explained what was going on and identified the key points that must be covered for instructional learning. Great Job!
Thank you for the kind words and feedback. I am happy to hear the information was present well! I hope this video will be helpful to someone out there just starting out!
Thanks for your great tutorials. As a noob and a left hander these are really helpful. When I fall into bad habits like just pushing pins without enough thought, i watch one of your videos and they put me on the correct path again. Thank you Helpful Lockpicker!
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad they help. I plan to hopefully get back into making videos soon as well
I love well-presented videos like this. These helped me back in the day when I first got into the sport of lockpicking. Still stuck on beating Orange Belt locks.... but I'm stubborn! Job well done here!
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps!
That's a really good cutaway for teaching,
A well presented tutorial,
Are you able to do a video using that cutaway to show how one can recover from an overset pin Thank you, cheers matey
I can try to do a video on that. I want to do one on underset pins as well.
I am a beginner and this is the best and well presented video I ever come across, explaining the basics.
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps
This helped me so much all the other videos didn’t teach me anything ty so much 🎉🎉🎉
I have to say this is probably the most concise and informative beginner video on youtube. Excellent advice, simple and straight forward. Well done!
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helped :-)
I needed to learn how to pick pins. I had accidentally locked one of my security doors and I finally got it after two weeks. I had to learn for two weeks and then I took me two weeks to figure out the pins on the lock door. it was a great feeling when I finally got it open Because I didn’t have to call anyone and pay somebody to do it for me.
Your outro sounds so much like Fire on the mountain by the grateful Dead. I love it.
Thanks, now I understand why some pins feel floppy in the locks I try to pick but are not set yet like three and one did. That is why it is so important to know which pins are already set.
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps
Thanks man, this is really helpful! One question though: Do you know for a fact if most bank safes with such mechanisms have an alarm attached if a true key is not used?
Asking for a friend.
I wouldn't chance it
Hahahaha u so faaaannnyyyy... Lol 4 real though, let me know if he ever found out
@@gil-juniorriseabovebetraya5972 He can tell us in a few years, when he gets out.
(Seriously, the bank has an alarm to alert police, and a vault to keep the burglar out until the police arrive)
this is the first video i've found that explains the difference between springy, binding and set pins. good job!
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps
Thank you for your videos. I just discovered you and you have a great teaching technique. I now realize (I’m pretty new to picking) that I’ve been doing it altogether wrong. Reboot!
Consider yourself subscribed. Thanks again. Great job!
Welcome to the hobby and thank yo for subscribing!
this is one of the few videos ill ever like
Thank you for the kind words
What if the lock is installed upside down ? How would that affect the pins ? I noticed just about everybody shows these "euro" style cylinders mounted upside down to how I've seen them all my life, with the pins at the BOTTOM ("bible" at the bottom, plug at the top).
By far the most detailed explanation video on RUclips! Thank you
Thank you for the kind words
Great video very helpful do you have one like this but showing security pins I am very new to lock picking
Exactly what i was looking for.
This is been great I've watched this video several times I really like how you talk clearly decisively very informational I've been in locksport a while and I'm trying to spread the word to some of my family they think it's illegal and I keep telling them I've never done anything illegal when it comes to lock sport I've bought all my own locks or people have given me locks to do I find the sport very enjoyable and I appreciate the video you put out.
To be fair, it is illegal on a handful of states, I think you can actually count them on one hand but this sport is full of many of the nicest and genuine people out there. It is much different than other hobbies were people are snobby and make the barriers to enter much harder.
Started picking few months ago. First 2 locks I picked were non transparent, and non cutout regular locks with one or two security pins. I know exactly how to single pick them, but then I went to other locks, and sometimes they really don't have a clear feedback :/
Thanks for your lecture. Easy to understand
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps
I really appreciate your teaching style and approach you take for helping understand some the finer points of locksport, not to mention the excellent quality of your video work.🔑🔒
Thank you for the kind words, I am glad to hear they kelp!
Thanks for an excellent tutorial. As a complete beginner, I don't understand what determines the order that the drive pins engage in the sheer line. For example, why should say, pin 5 be the first drive pin and not pin 3? Are the holes slightlv off-set so that the pins can only engage in a set order? Hope this question makes sense.
The holes are slightly off and this is what makes lock picking work!
Another excellent video. Great job explaining the techniques of mastering the different types of feedback on lock picking.
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps!
Thanks for these home school videos
! It helped me pick my first lock i received as a gift for Christmas 🎄
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helped! Welcome to the hobby :)
Omg, very good tutorial, now i understand how lockpicking works.
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helped :)
Parabéns muito bom!!!
Thanks for checking it out
I got one of them lockpick sets with the clear plastic locks and noticed there is no clicking at all when a pin is set. I guess its because the body of the lock is a soft plastic instead of metal. I think I'll get hold of some real locks to play around with.
Brilliant! You are a great teacher and provide very clear and easy to understand instruction.
Thank you for the kind words!
Nice explanation of set pins. Wish when I first started out I would of seen this. Great for newbies.
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad to hear you think it will be helpful to those starting out down the road!
(Beginning lock picker)
Sometimes when I'm picking a lock, I'll take my pick/rake out of the core and look through it and sometimes the pins just aren't there. Does that mean the pins are set?
Brilliant video, I happened to be one of those people who just jiggle around and hope for the best until I bought a yale ye1/40 and I really got frustrated because I was using the wrong technique and pick , was racking using a city rack but I the tried single pin picking and that didn't work until I bought a h&h swiss army knife style tool that I was able to pick it and when I did I was so elated and it was a deforister half round (am I right ?) Where the end of it cranks up with a half ball on the end . Well I can't wait to get another lock to try and pick ( i have 3 and a practice lock )
Congrats on the open! It is a "deforest" diamond. It is curved with a half diamond on the end.
Great info changed a few things in my picking
Thanks for checking it out
@@HelpfulLockPicker I am trying to get better and you and Bosnian bill have shown me a few tips that have made it easier
around the 4:40 mark when pin 5 has been set and "feels floppy", when you move right to pin 3 which is the next binding pin, how does that not "feel floppy", they always feel EXACTLY as floppy as a set pin because the driver pin is binding at the sheer line and the key pin is free to flop around. The only thing that lets me know a driver pin is not yet set is that it is able to be moved. When I push on a floppy pin that hits a wall thats when I know it's set.
Also, I am noticing that when your pick is all the way in the back of the lock working pins 3, 4, or 5, selectively and methodically, it is also lifting 1 and 2. If 1 and 2 happened to have a very shallow set height, i'd imagine they could easily be overset, and then the whole operation is nuked and has to be restarted.
You are right that there is the similarity. Pin 3 was "under-set" which now takes away the "springy" feeling. When you feel an underset pin it feels floppy for about the first 75% of the height when you lift it but you will hit the driver pin at somepoint which will produce a "binding" feeling. A binding pin will allow you to continue to raise the keypin where if it were set you would not be able to lift it any further.
An excellent overview of the vital basics of lock picking.
Thank you for checking it out and I am glad it helps!
Crystal clear instructions and presentation. Very good vid!
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps
I’m still bad but I was able to pick open a crappy Walmart padlock after watching this, I need practice because only locks I had before that where see through and EZ as hell.
Thanks for sharing and congrats on your success :-)
this video has helped my greatly these locks are causing me a little trouble.... but I'm sure after watching this I will defeat it lol thankyou
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps :)
lockpicking skill has increased
What a Helpful lockpicker!👍
Thank you for the kind words
Great work :) my main problem is, over setting pins. I can picture what is going on, but I'm having more luck raking. 10-20 seconds on an abus 83 lol lol
It is something that happens, you can always try using more tension or a deeper profile pick
What about European locks where the lock is pointing downwards? I find them harder since I tend to overset them.
As a beginner, I can feel springy pins, I can feel a binding pin, I can hear a pin set, BUT I can in no way feel the "floppy" key pin under a set pin. Of course, in a clear plastic lock, if I rotate the core I can feel them, but not when picking. Any ideas?
It just takes time. Try progressive pinning a lock
Newbie question: It's picked in the order pins 5,3,4,1,2. But could it be picked in any other order? If no, how do you know or feel the correct order? Thanks.
The order can differ depending of tensioning clockwise or counter clockwise. In theory there is only one true binding order for each direction, however, in reality you can tension it so sometimes you have two pins bind simultaneously and you can pick out of order if it is a cheaper lock
Very clearly defined. Exelent video
Thank you for the kind words, I'm glad it helps!
I want to apply for this course as part of my counter intelligence studies and homelamd security
Thank you for sharing
Now I'm picking that same lock in about 15 seconds or less spp thanks so mu
Just remember muscle memory does play a factor
Helpfullockpicker the super spy is the first thing i was thinking about when i heard the music in the start, great video My Friend.
I had fun adding that music in :) Thank you for the kind words!
How? I neither feel any particular feedback nor hear the click when the pin sets.
Bear in mind that I have managed to open the transparant practice lock and one other a few times.
I can't tell any difference when I do things right and when I do things wrong.
Great video and thanks for sharing! As for the set pin, the situation might not be the same in a lock installed upside-down like euro or UK oval cylinders. Fantastic tutorial nevertheless!
Thanks for sharing! I touch on that in future videos but for the main part my focus is on the typically oriented US lock.
I'm struggling to recognise which pin my pick is at, any tips?
Sometimes it is easier to start in the back and work your way forward. Some people have made markings on their picks to track where they are.
Very nice video, thank you for that.
Is there any way to identify a set pin in a lock that is build in? The lock in the video seems to be upside down, not how it would appear in the wild.
So floppyness detection would not work there.
If the lock pia pins down a set pin would be sunk down but not frozen when you push on it
@@HelpfulLockPicker thanks for the hint. Ill keep trying ;-)
Thank you very much! This is the first video i found that actually explained it well!
edit: The first video i saw...
Thank you for the kind words and I'm glad it helps :)
Often times when I’m trying to do the back pins, what feels like binding is actually just the pick getting hung up in the keyway. What’s the best way to differentiate these?
Also, do you “pivot” the pick on the edge when picking, or do you “push” it straight up. When I do just a “pushing” motion I feel like I have better feel of the springy vs not springy, but the push method doesn’t seem to work great on pins in the back. Thanks for the help
I sort of pivot off my finger. A lot of people pivot off the warding. If you are getting hung up in the back of the lock maybe you need to try a different pick profile. Sometimes the warding can make it difficult
@@HelpfulLockPicker I’m just doing a basic Brinks lock and cannot seem to SPP it. I can never seem to even correctly locate the first binding pin
My problem is it feels like both pins get stuck when I push up on them so even if the top pin is set it doesn't matter what is this called and how do I get the bottom pin to come back down like you? I also never am able to hear when a pin sets I feel like I'm totally misunderstanding what I'm supposed to be doing
If the pins get stuck you are likely over setting them.
Very good and educational video 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you for the kind words!
You tell to learn the weight of pins; in France, euro locks are installed springs down, so that once set, the pins are laying down; is there an other trick for this case ?
They would feel sunken and just sitting at the bottom
Best vid I've ever seen on this subject. Well done mate.
Thank you for the kind words!
Great insight and information, particularly for beginning pickers, thank you!
Thank you for the kind words and I am glad it helps!
In Europe we keep the cilinder the other direction . When the driver pin is set, the keypin does not drop back, but rests on the driver pin.
Thanks for sharing
Is it possible to overset a pin after you've set it? Or does this only happen when you over tension the core?
Can you overset a keypin after the driver pin has already bin set. You always need to be careful.
Is this just for lock sport because the cylinder is upside down in a real world situation a set pin feels the same as a binding pin, any advice for that ?
I depends where you live. Some places are pins up others are pins down
what do I have to do when none of the pins set? I am putting tension on it, I have tried both little and much. They just wont stay above the shearline...
You might not be lifting them high enough. also, some times (more with bottom of the keyway) you can bind the core where it is not making the rotational tension and it is no effective
One Problem is, that this Kind of Lock is never upsidedown. The pins are usually on the downside of the Lock. There is Now gravity pushing them "up", to feel wich pen is Set wich isnt.
Can someone explain me that in a Real case?
It depends where you are from this lock is just for demonstration. This is a "real case" in the United States lock orientation varies depending on location.
A set pin upside down is the opposite. It is just sunken, no spring pushing against it.
thanks man
Haha that’s me the first bit. At the moment I can only feel the first two or three. After that I’m not 100% sure I setting the rest correctly. Your videos definitely teach well though I e learnt a lot.
Thank you for the kind words and im glad it helps:)
Thank you. As always these are great and very helpful as a beginner
Thank you for the kind words!
Thanks so much for the vid! Does this method work with different types of locks?
It works with pin and tumbler locks
Is it possible to set a pin without there being a corresponding rotation of the core? I'm almost of a mind to destroy/convert this lock to a cut-away with a dremel/grinder so I can see what makes it so incredibly difficult to pick! : )
If you have all standard pins there shouldn't be much rotation at all. This is mostly for spools, mushroom, and t pins.
@@HelpfulLockPicker Wow, I'd be really embarrassed if there were no security pins. I do think there are serrated pins judging by the number of clicks I'm getting all over the place.
As a beginner this is great
Thank you and I am glad it help!