"Men Tend To Be Better People!" Pearl Davis On Feminism And 'Traditional' Wives
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2023
- Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by RUclipsr Pearl Davis, 'Tradwive' and influencer Estee Williams, along with socialist and author Grace Blakeley, to discuss Emily Ratajkowski's recent TikTok explaining that being a 'divorcee' is a good thing and to debate whether women should go back to being 'traditional wives'.
Estee suggests that not everyone should be forced to be 'tradwives' but highlights what she thinks is the "beauty" in being one.
However, Pearl believes women would benefit from being traditional wives, with her saying some studies show how much happier women were when they adhered to 'traditional' gender roles.
Pearl also added that the problem with women not being a 'tradwife' is that men are "better people" and the function of a family changes when a woman doesn't stay at home.
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“Am i allowed to talk?” She asks, while she spent the interview cutting everyone off and talking over them.
right, the level of stupidity is at its heights.
As long as she can keep talking she doesn't have to consider facts or other people's opinions and she can think about what she is going to say next.
@Improvements62 They're obsessed with control because they couldn't control the men who used them and then left.
Exactly.
@@jamesjonnes That's not a feminist. Good lord 🙄
The trad wife has a beautiful calm warm and kind energy and the feminist is manic and self-absorbed. Says it all really
Her husband basically does everything besides cook sounds like a shit deal for the man imo while she sits at home and plays makeup and house
They both were fine, calm down. Only insane person here was Pearl.
That trad wife is a fraud. She is clearly just putting on an act for Tik tok views.
@@Pumpkinking64No feminists are not good people! Feminists tend to be very nasty and cruel and self obbsessed and they hate men. Only ones good here was Pearl and the trad lady
@@Pumpkinking64how many women have you interviewed? pearl said she's interviewed 700 why don't you listen & engage you're brain for once you might learn somethings.
23yrs of a traditional wife. Still IN love, still happy, the family is close knit...never regretted it. It hasn't always been easy, but worth every minute of the good and bad. The only thing I ever dread is the day "til death do you part" becomes our reality.
Cool but that life isn't for everyone
@@user-wo6xj4se8b Marriage may not be for everyone. Good thing I was referring to my experience instead of trying to speak for everyone.
@@user-wo6xj4se8b why not ?
@@user-wo6xj4se8b Get some help.
@@danam5786 If your husband passes away (God forbid), what are you going to do?
I love how Estee wasn't forcing the idea of traditional gender roles on every person. She said it was a choice and outlined why it was a beautiful choice for people who choose to make it, making it clear why it was the choice she made for her marriage. It still agrees with the idea of women being able to choose.
Perhaps you don't understand - women should, indeed, be free to choose, and what they should choose is to be strong, independent, powerful and to control their man, if they have one.
@@steveknight878 If you think women should be free to choose, then you can't dictate what choices they make. That's the opposite of freedom. There is no "what they should choose." THEY choose without your input. That's the definition of choice.
@@lyrajin8815Um - yes. I was being sarcastic.
@@steveknight878 Yes mate, I totally agree. Woman must be free to make their own decisions, but if they choose to stay at home, cook, raise children and look after their family, then they have obviously been indoctrinated by the patriarchy and have no control over their own decisions. They could gain their independence and earn ridiculous money by selling their bodies and find happiness by receiving positive feedback and compliments from anonymous strangers online. All we need is affirmation. So be free ladies, and choose only fans. It's the way forward.
@@lyrajin8815Steve's comment was based on sarcasm showing how ridiculous the previous comment was. People are looking for the easiest way out. Either way there is a price to pay either short term or long term. You choose.
Disgusting that divorce is 'chic'. As a public school teacher I can tell you that healthier more well adjusted students are from traditional, secure homes. Divorce devastates children. Don't kid yourself.
If we are pretending that an increase in divorces is new, we erased Gen X and even a good proportion of boomers. Obviously one has to unpack the reasons for a divorce. An alcoholic spouse who steals your money would be incentive to get one
Sure I agree but I would imagine there are just as many children from homes with dysfunctional marriages as well, I knew many myself growing up. I don't think it's a revelation that a child will be more well adjusted if the home life is traditional, secure and happy.
pearl making those good points
@@SherLock55 The dysfunction usually stems from economic issues. The adults get this stuck in place feeling, then it devolves into blaming each other for it, then it effects the child and eventually leads to divorce.
A public school teacher doesn't have the credentials to make that assertion. Anecdotal evidence isn't exactly scientific reasoning.
Lol. She constantly cuts pearl off then acts victim when she can’t speak.
Feminist behavior in a nutshell
Thats feminists for you. No accountability or respect but they will be the first ones to play the victim card.
Ah but if it was a right-wing guest constantly cutting off a left-wing guest.
"You go, dude! Drown out their nonsense. They don't deserve to be shown courtesy"
Both did it.
Par for the course
Grace accusing Pearl of talking over her.. couldnt belive that. ...
Well yeah Pearl was cutting her off. It's clear to see in the video
The problem is society telling people what is acceptable. In the past we were told a woman's place was in the home. Today we are told a woman's place is in the career world. How about we quit telling women what to do and let them make their own choices without being denigrated because of those choices.
Selective comprehension is your forte. Society has always told men where they belong too but here you are making it about women. Women these days think they invincible, special and nothing can be said about them not even a joke about them. Gender roles wasn’t only attributed to women it was both gender, but seems like women are the only ppl unsatisfied about their roles. They wanted their careers, they got it now and still complaining. Like I can’t find a single law that stop women from doing what men do, but they still complaining.
One problem with that is that many of those women choose to try to tell everyone else how everything should be, hence the whole femenist movement we have today! They fight against the 'norms' of society and they are free to do so, but then they want to convert everyone else to their ideology like as if that is the only correct way to do things. Worst of all, they play victim if you say you disagree with them...
Grace overtalked and interrupted Pearl eveutime she spoke but the one time Pearl did when Grace spoke, she starts ranting at Pearl. Utter hypocrisy!
that's par for the course on piers morgan's show. the leftist female guests always do that.
feminists behavior
It's because Pearl is a friggin airhead who keeps regurgitating the same bs. She has no ability to communicate or articulate her points effectively.
@ianswift3521 true. Rentagob narcissists. See also Ava Santina Evans and Paula whatever-she's-called.
Toxic femininity.
i like how she kept interrupting Pearl but the second Pearl interrupts her she gets upset and calls her out on it.
I was gonna comment this but you beat me to it
definitely...the pillar of a woke feminist.
The Support of the Sisterhood xD the hypocrisy here was so blatant.
typical leftist ..
The audacity
The one point that nailed modern relationship problems on the head was "too many in the modern day care more about the individual than the family" - exactly the problem why so many relationships are failing, so many have grown up selfish and entitled and do not understand what actual fairness is when it comes to another person in the relationship.
Ideologies such as "wifes always right" or "boys will be boys" are nothing but excuses for unaccountability in recent generations.
As a married man to a housewife I was emotionally moved by the blonde traditional wife.God bless.
Ya she's like 1 out of a million 😅
I like that the blonde said it's not about going back to 50s & 60s, SHE just likes the aesthetic.
Common sense should make that obvious. It's a lovely style, but of course these liberals wanna add their nonsensical thoughts.
--Last year I went shopping with my kid & they had those pink ladies jackets & 50's style dresses next to bell bottoms?! Looked like fashion mags from every decade threw up in the store!
--I love that they keep bringing back styles, but they blended 70's style with 80's color schemes & ruined it all.
--My daughter wore an elegant, BACKLESS flapper dress to prom. The sheer over slip was made with such delicate details 1 snag & the entire dress would've crumbled, lol. I thought it was a bit risque' to go completely backless, but all the other girls had their top & bottom hanging out(for PROM)!!!!
@@sharonodom6423 who tf asked for a story time
@@denxz_999 I asked for it, so stfu yourself
@@sharonodom6423 Thank you for your post and time. I enjoyed reading it :)
Trad wife of 43 years . I loved it and still love being a homemaker. We raised four kids and now have three adult children 7 grandkids . As far as being happy we all have times when we aren’t happy. Life is hard , so many things can happen . You can lose a child, lose a house, be in a bad car accident , have an extreme wayward child. The list goes on. No life style you chose is going to make you “happy “all the time.
Congratulations on the grandbabies & successful children! As a mother of a teenage daughter, it sounds like an absolute dream... Best of luck on your continuing good fortune!
@@charloletti adult children are not puppets. They have their own choices to make and they can make bad ones. For example they can be greatly influenced in university despite being raised correctly , they can experience mental illness which causes behavior that is not good ( parent has zero control over an adult child) , they can “ fall in love “ with an awful person who is detrimental to their choices etc. you can homeschool your child and once they leave your home make horrendous , devastating choices , some can even lead to death .
@@charloletti ok. I’m not going to argue your personal beliefs. I disagree. Also our definitions of wayward might be different. I’ve seen too many heartbroken parents over the years to put that on them.
only respect 4 you... wish u the best for u and ur whole family
Wise words here.
Grace is the type if she and her husband ever fell on bad times financially, she would be off .
Absolutely she would because her "happiness" comes before the stability of the family and the happiness of the children.
She will have to marry a man who doesn't speak.
No man would marry her. She may find a simp but she will eventually leave him
No real man would marry that wacko.
Yes, what a pathetic and weak society we have arrived at where 'I wasn't happy' is regarded as a valid excuse for abandoning one's family.
Pearl made me cry
i wish all women were like her
Family comes before one's own happiness
Amen
Yes, I've always liked Pearl. She choked me up also. I like Estee also.
"Pearl made me cry"
Gag. Pathetic! What are you 3yrs old?
Pearl likes teen girls
Why is she not married. If she is that great. Marry her?
She is fantastic. Women need the truth now.
Piers’ reaction to the conservative wife’s description of her attitude towards marriage really tells you everything you need to know about which approach will make a man happier.
There is a lot of money to be made from men's sexism.
Facts!!!
Narcissism is not empowerment.
Male empowerment is all about self-improvement.
Female empowerment is all about bringing men down.
Grace Blakeley's Mommy taught her she is special and doesn't have to play nice and share with others. Notice that she had her turn to speak and Pearl honored that. Then she ran her mouth over Pearls turn, even raising her voice and shouting. God bless you pearl.
Pearl has clearly never been taught anything ever
I’m afraid she is a product of the modern British Public School in which girls are continually told they can be anything they want to be in life,are superior to men and have been held back by them for generations etc.She will wake up and smell the coffee eventually by which time she will be a miserable bitter middle aged woman with no true friends and a wake of disasters behind her.
@@mdaddy775 Change the freaking record, dude...just how many times have you made this same type of childish (not to mention poorly written & always without any justification &/or proof of any kind) snipe throughout this thread, may I please enquire?! You're certainly not doing your 'side' any favours by doing so, btw...
@@lavielemond The irony that you scold me for making childish comments which lack proof considering that's all Pearl offers in the above interview (and others) And I would contend my comments are written just fine.
I'll stop now though.
@@mdaddy775there's plenty of data to support what she says.
You just lazy.
Family before me! Preach Pearl!
"My happiness" is a particularly sharp utterance to point out. I have personally never heard a man talk about his own happiness as his priority in any way.
VERY true.
Because we are always told : "Man up. Suck it. Duty first".
For women it's : "Oh you you poor thing, Did the mean man frightened you ? Here, let's give you free stuff."
6:20 she interrupted the entire time, and started her argument with some friend's story which nobody knows if it's true, and then proceeded tell another. A true feminist right there.
It's rich to complain about somone cutting off Pearl in a discussion....
Facts.
I was thinking the same. The hypocrisy...It's always a friend of a friend's story and it's always about unreported "abuse" from the man.
The feminist who isn’t letting pearl talk keeps saying let me speak 🙄 typical women that 😂😂😂
Feminism is boardline man hating at this point let’s be real
I was a trad wife. I loved it. Looking after my house and my kids. Teaching my kids about the world. It’s such a shame my ex liked to cheat and then when he was 38 he ran off with a 23yr old he worked with. We were married 20 years. I didn’t choose divorce. I wanted to grow old together. Didn’t work out that way for me. Oh well.
Sorry hear that just shows hypocrisy some here that go on traditional women where there like for your comment because shows he still went off the irony of them say women or.modern women and you valued traditional and still wasn't enough but didn't respond to u clearly because its anti women crap
Name one thing you did wrong.
no man would leave a loyal woman behind for no valid reason
@@profanotherletter4346plenty of men out there just don’t give a damn about how good a women treats them and will cheat regardless, I know many men that have treated a good woman like crap
The traditional values imply to men too. They also need to recognise their role and don’t be selfish.
Love how she tells pearl to let her speak but proceeds to constantly speak over her as well
I love that the British woman complained of being spoken over but spoke over Pearl the entire time she was speaking
I've never seen so many women work their butts off, trying to convince other women on social media how happy and good life is as a middle-aged divorcee!
I think many aspects of that kind of thing are a form of competitive sabotage.
Let them go lol
yes modern women intentionally give malicious advice to feel better about their failed situation.
Exactly!!! Very well said
@@billwalton4571 modern single women love seeing other women single
Pearl killed it @6:10 when she said marriage isn't about an individual, it's about family. Unfortunately, not many women think like that these days.
thanks to karl popper
Like Estee said, we have a really big problem with selfishness and "the self" in America that leads to toxic and narcissistic behaviors - which dont work in healthy relationships.
America was supposed to be about individualism...which is supposed to be tempered and disciplined with respect to others.......but egotistic "self love" took over.
Maybe the divorce rate is so high because of wrong choices by women of men? Women are the ones to consent if a relationship is going to be realized.
@@ulrikjensen6841actually you are wrong. Women are the gatekeepers of the bedroom fun, men are the gatekeepers of a relationship. Women unfortunately give their value away easily when they are young, when they are older they demand a high price for something that they have already given away for free, and most men aren't interested in women when they hit 30+.
It's called sexual market value, women's smv declines rapidly after the age of 26, mens value increases as they get older.
Remember, women do nothing to become a woman, a man has alot of work to do to become a man.
That was a mic drop moment!
She said she's 30 and trying to figure out what she wants with her life
That's messed up bro
Socialism and feminism prolong adolescence like no other influences.
😂
Everyone should be able to do what they want. If a woman wants to be a stay at home mum/housewife, fine. If they want to work and become a CEO great. If they decide after being a mum/housewife after a few years and want to go into the workforce, so be it. My wife has worked MOST of her adult life. its her choice. She took about 2 years off when our 3 kids were all little all 3 under 10, one not in school yet) and then after decided to go back part time. Once all our kids were in well into their schooling, she decided to go back full time. I supported her all the way! I'm a bloke who has worked full time all my life supporting my family and supporting my wife on whatever choice she makes for herself and our family. We own our own house, kids are healthy, we go on overseas trips etc.
“Not speak over people” - she was literally speaking over pearl the whole time! Wow.
WHOLE SHOW
Typical feminist of course
The lady with the flowery shirt is a classic example of someone who can't see past her own point of view and thinks everyone else's opinion is ridiculous or void. I live with the most wonderful woman imaginable. She's strong, smart & independent but also enjoys been dependent on me and puts 'us' before 'me', as I do with her. That's what modern feminists just don't get 'us', before 'me'. The different energies of the three women says it all really. Love the bit when she says "am I allowed to speak" having talked over the other guest incessantly. Entitled as well.
To be fair, I agree with Grace's point that it has to be reciprocal. A marriage won't work unless both parties put 'us' first.
I think that was the whole point Grace was making - From what you wrote, you are on the same page with her. Husband and wife have to put the marriage first before the self, but the idea of totally negating the self means in fact negating the relationship (because it is your self-worth that you are offering - that is the act of love) that Pearl has the same intense bias you mention as well but tends to also say flat out dumb things.
Very true ,entitled.Not allowing others to speak.Grace has no grace...
Actually I felt that way about Pearl. The flowery Shirt lady and the trad wife lady were perfectly fine. They both basically said pick what works for you and the flowery shirt lady just added on some nuance about how you shouldn’t be duped by certain movements and there is more to relationships then pure self sacrifice and she was trying to have a discussion about the points Pearl put out there. She didn’t belittle anything she just said that’s an actually really interesting thing to say let’s talk through that. But Pearl just kept steamrolling which made her look like a narcissist.
She is a socialist FFS. At least 100 million dead due to the rantings on that racist German free loader Marx. Yeah ok darling ,sorry ms.
I'm so glad to see that women are at least seriously considering traditional relationships again. I'm not a big Piers Morgan fan, but do love to hear what Pearl has to say. Thank you.
5:41 "I couldn't agree more" 🤣
Guys I guess we can all agree that Estee is the kind of sweetheart you want to hold onto forever right!
Yeah she is the dream woman simply by the way she carries herself, just from her sweet voice it's clear she's a loving and nurturing woman. These are the women that society needs to protect.
100%
What's not to like, she exudes femininity which it's mere rare presence demands respect, kindness and protection.
Hell yea that’s wifey for lifey
I'm friends with her and she's literally the sweetest soul ever, I love her!
Omg she won't let pearl respond without talking over her.
“I couldn’t agree more.” lol, word.
As a Man its a must for me to get up and go to work in my eyes. What I'm cry about it because I feel forced. Having the ability to control your life, I get it. So if I become a stay at home Dad and I get a sugarmama, that should be ok because its what makes me happy, right.
I love being a traditional wife, but I live on a farm so in addition to cooking and cleaning I grow my own food, take care of the ornamental gardens, preserve food, take care of chickens, mow lawn, take the bins out, paint the house, make fences, do minor renovations. Take care of orchards and harvest. And when my adult children and their partners come to visit I cook up a storm. I sew, mend and knit my own clothes. I also homeschooled for 3 years. Ive had a busy and rewarding career adding value to our household and farm economy. If I was a trad wife in the city I would be extremely bored, unless I decided i I was going to make everything myself, bake bread, wash by hand etc. You cant blame women for wanting something else, especially when your children are no longer at home.
In my opinion this is what a traditional wife was.
I mean how is this little blip post industrial revolution where women could stay at home and do nothing (and it wasn't even close to the majority of the population), I just call that a kitchenaid housewife.
Before the industrial revolution the majority of the work took place in homes all around the US, there wasn't a Nike or Reebok, labor wasn't centralized under corporations.
Back then work was harder and it took both to get the basics done, today any one person can take care of a house and home by themselves, though this requires a lot of relying on corporations to provide things, food for instance is so contaminated from Apeel to cattle being fed 10% beef fat and pumped with gmo corn ect. So growing your own food is as far as health goes optimal though it takes a ton of work.
That being said, women back then worked for that family unit, but that isn't needed to get by today, women don't need to work as a team to have a house or home at 19 or 50. The idea that women were oppressed by some patriarchy is false, they were oppressed by nature, even men who struck out on their own had a hard time if they lived and lived on very plain food on repeat. It would be even harder for a woman and definitely not ideal for anyone.
That to say, what I define as traditional is not where a women works, but if she is focused on building that family unit and making it flourish just as the man should. How that's done depends on their values and hopefully they agree on those.
Marriage is not for everyone. However when you are married you have to bring something to the table. You cannot just be in a marriage and behave as if you are single. The more you contribute or invest in your marriage the more you can get out of it. Satisfaction and happiness.
That was Pearl's point. Most women today look at marriage solely as what they get. That's why a woman can just wake up one day, say she is bored, and divorce you. To her, all that matters is her happiness 😊
Grace and Pearl are both great to listen to. Grace is a dynamic force.. But from observation.. Estee seems so Happy Wholesome, respectful, just calmer and even more polite that the others. I don't think a marriage will survive Grace. 😂
That's her act.
10:53 The idea behind the word “reciprocal” is not quit fair because someone has to be under as opposed to “complement” which means “side by side”. 🤔
The rude lady doesn’t allow Pearl to talk and cut her off many times because she’s scare to hear the truth. Pearl let her finish her nonsense because it’s nonsense.
If you really want to see how intelligent pearl is go watch her interview with h3. She was visibly annoyed at the fact h3 brought up her own quotes and simply asked her to elaborate
Why people idealize Pearl? She claims feminism is bad, but because of that movement she’s able to work, not ostracized for being a non virgin, not married, and gives many opinions on tv.
"You don't need no man"
"He's no good enough for you, girlfriend"
How many times do we hear this kind of stuff from modern women? Pearl is 100% correct.
Beyonce sings about "All the single ladies", yet she stays with her husband after he cheated on her multiple times lol
Because it's true
Hard to tell. They keep shouting each other down. A Trump button, which shuts up the other person while the other is allowed to make her point, would really improve the dialogue a lot. I agree with both of them; there are advantages to both choices and there are disadvantages.
Those sayings were from older women who grew up in a time where they or their moms didn't have any financial or social rights, and thus had to put up with men and their shitty behaviour. It was deemed more shameful to be a woman who left an abusive husband than to be the husband who hit and cheated on his helpless wife, because God forbid you're a divorced woman because your husband beat you blue, it must've been your fault either way (think of the stereotypes from that time about women poisoning their husbands, says a lot doesn't it). Many parents didn't even want to take their daughters back after divorce because it was so shameful - mind you it's still like that in some European countries (where I'm from) so this isn't ancient at all. When the woman was financially free, she no longer needed a man to survive. Of course we all need companionship, but now women can choose you because you're likeable, and not because of your money or because of pressures from family to get married and have babies all before age 20.
Also, as a woman, girlfriends are VERY HAPPY and excited for you when you meet a man and you seem happy with him. At least in my experience. Women still idealise marriage and being mothers. It's when women go on date after date with horrible men or learn that their long term boyfriend is so lazy, messy, inconsiderate and selfish once they move in, get married or have a baby that it starts to feel hopeless (I'm happily married so don't come for me), because apparently a lot of men aren't raised to be somebody's husband, just fuckboys with no responsibility. And lots of men are stuck in the past where they think their money is enough.
People just don’t want social norms to change. Some people just want to keep hating on single divorced professional women. There’s nothing wrong about being divorced in your 30s and content and happy. Why society wants us to feel ashamed or a victim is ridiculous.
The traditionalist is saying “the family before me.” The SOCIALIST says “me first. …as expected.
Imagine identifying as a socialist and arguing me, me, me. True colours. Evil enabler, if not evil herself.
Great comment 👏🏽
Because she is not even a real socialist she is a thick one who doesn’t even understand her own ideology
Fantastic comment !
She's, in a word, vapid
kaka comment
Grace- speaking over pearl 5 times..
Pearl being polite..
Pearl- speaks over grace 1 time at the end of the interview
Grace: "be a polite woman and don't speak over other people!"
Lack of self awareness..
Entitled - Grace
Narcisism
It's quite ironic that Pearl is the sole individual on the panel who isn't in a relationship. Perhaps it's time for him to heed his own advice before reaching the age of 30.
Pearl being polite 😂😂😂
@@pamanudavy All I'm saying is, according to Pearl, any woman who is over 25, single, not married, without children, and is focused on her career is considered unsuccessful or a looser..hence PEARL...
We love you Mrs Williams we need more like you ❤
When two oeople are together the will have "defined" rikes within the relationship in order to have success. If both work, they don't have as much spare time for housework and meal quality can suffer. These are points where a lot of relationships fail as it seems to be competitive, as in i work all day and have to come home and do this, that, etc. What have you done for me lately, fight, emotional escalation and things were said that both regret. It is never easy, you always have to be open to learn during that relationship, just the way life is.
Being a traditional woman doesn’t mean you can’t work, or go to college, or own your own home or cars. It doesn’t mean being a on beck and call for your husband. It means caring for your family, home and yourself. It means working to stay connected to your husband. I raised my son. I was there for all his needs and education. I am now self employed as he’s in his teenage years. I’ve had my husband’s support every step of the way. ❤ I don’t feel burdened raising my son or having to think about what pleases my spouse because he does the same for me. It’s a healthy relationship.
What’s traditional about working outside of the home? 😂
Good for you, congratulations!
@@jennifert5120your question and the laugh emoji says everything about you. Women have always worked, on the farm or elsewhere. You need to be married rich to not have to work, so it’s a real privilege.
@@mariem.6042 Nailed it.
Why can't you be at your husband's beck and call? I'm sure you expect men to be at their wives beck and call?
I was a traditional wife for almost 20 years. I'm working part time now from home because I have to with the economy. When your wage doesn't go up (but yet new hires are getting paid far more than you) and groceries cost you $100 a week more you do what you have to do. I loved it and miss it. I hate that I have to work "outside of the home". Being a housewife and stay at home mother is the best (for me anyway). Been married 24 years now.
These feminists aren't independent. They just submit to their bosses who couldn't care any less about them. At least your husband and kids love you back.
That doesn't make sense. How are new hires getting paid more than you who have proven years of competence, experience, and loyalty?. Something doesn't add up there. Are you omitting some crucial details?. I have heard of no job where new recruits get paid far more than people who have been doing the SAME job for years. It all depends on your job title. For example, an engineer will get paid far more than people who operate the machines. You can not expect to be paid the same as him. Same as you can't expect people higher up above you coming into their new position to be paid the same as you.
What you said there is key and vital.
@@paulclinton6414 First of all, not all bosses are male.
Second of all, if working for a boss makes you less independent, why is it okay for the man to do it but it's not okay for the woman?
Thirdly, do husbands pay their wives any of the work that they do?
You are making a false equivalency. And at this point, I think you're just complaining that, nowadays, women have the freedom to be more than just childrearing housewives.
When you are a man and a woman, it may not be a recipe for a happy successful relationship.
If you are a gentleman and lady, you have a chance to have a happy successful emphatic, grateful, and decent relationship, loved by your neighborhood.
Being a gentleman is a choice and being a lady is a choice.
I read a quote: "Being a male is a matter of birth. Being a man is a matter of age.
Being a gentleman is a matter of choice."
The same is about women.
I wonder if a non-gentleman marries a nice lady,
how the job of a lady may be fulfilled properly if he isn't acting accordingly.
Or if non-lady marries a gentleman, how the role of the gentleman can be fulfilled, if she doesn't give enough empathy to the gentleman.
Maybe better is to not talk about it but start to learn to be ladies and gentlemen, so more marriages will have chances.
Stop being just thinkers and start being a doer, lead by example, or be inspired by nice relationships.
This was a classic . The modern femanist was consumed by the idea that she had to “win” the debate , so much so , she had to interject over Piers wrap up to have the last word . Totally insecure and self absorbed .
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣That was a good one!
There are good people and bad people on both genders actually a good and a bad side on every single one of us
The best way to beat a feminist in a debate is to let them talk.. they end up making themselves look like idiots very quickly
Agreed. I was in a coding bootcamp ran by feminists and they displayed favoritism towards women in the bootcamp because there is not much women in tech even if some of the women were shit at coding
Did Pearl say one smart thing in this interview, or any other?
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Pearl sounded ridiculous.
Epic 😂😂😂😂
I cant believe this is even a conversation. Do what works for you, the end. My god, social media is ruining the world
If u have a family, it's about doing what works for the family, not for u as an individual
Basically, if you believe that your happiness is the most important thing on the planet, then don't get married or have children. It's that simple and actually makes a lot of sense.
@TheChance1991 100% agree. And that's a big part why marriages in the west (in particular in the US) often don't last. Here in Asia, it's typically understood that marriage is a duty to create a family. If u are not ready to prioritize your family over your personal goals, needs & desires, u just don't do it, simple as that. If it's always about ME ME ME, just keep dating around and having relationships, why even marry in the first place?
Oh what a lovely trio of charming young ladies -- no Hollywood babe compares to any of them! And it only takes them to say what they're saying to be who they are... Great job as always, Piers!.
It's a shame Estee doesn't warn of the dangers of marriage that can leave a woman and her children destitute. Divorce, widowhood, abandonment, husband becoming disabled,... There are times when mothers have to become breadwinners.
Grace is so lost in her own nonsense it’s unreal. The family unit is and always should be the priority and not me myself and I.
The one lost in her own nonsense here,is woman hater,Pearl.
Amen. I could not agree more. The health and stability of the nuclear family is what is most important.
Pearl nailed it, there are so many women that put themselves before family.
If you don’t put your family and children first don’t bring them to the world to abandon them, and this goes for men and women 👍🏻
do you know the difference between a man who put themselves before family and a woman who does the same? Nobody sees the man being selfish. But every body and their Nana sees the woman
@@osmosisblessbut men aren’t the ones putting themselves first before family it’s the women. 70% of women initiate divorces when there are no faults (American Sociological Association).
@osmosisbless That's bulkshit men get called out all the time if they are not being responsible to their family duties.
Sounds like another woman cope out. But hey that's the world today.
@@osmosisblessEven if a man cheats... if he's paying the bills. Keeping the family going. He's not putting himself above th3 family.
You only do that when you LEAVE. Which only woman are doing. 78% of filed divorces are woman wrecking their homes.
to people who didn’t examine Pearl intelectual behavior: to pull up is much more difficult than pulling down… Pearl pulls down…
I like Piers is having fun by being in the front raw of these debates 😊
Trad women: I'm a trad woman and I expect a trad man
Other women: I don't want to be a trad woman but I still demand a trad man
Nope. Why would I want a traditional man who expects a woman to stay in a kitchen
add.. after the wall hit
Yep. You cracked the code!
Feminists like her don't want a trad man. They want to "have their point of view" and argue about every little thing. They have convinced themselves that they want a simp but will leave them out if frustration, dissatisfaction, and resentment. They are so deluded.
It's quite ironic that Pearl is the sole individual on the panel who isn't in a relationship. Perhaps it's time for her to heed her own advice before reaching the age of 30.
The trad wife is the ideal/idealistic
Pearl is real/realistic
And the feminist is just annoying
Spot on you couldn't of characterised them better. The feminist, a man wouldn't have no peace with her.
And you're a virgin
She is AAF
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@@clintharper5509 "Couldn't of"? "Wouldn't have no peace"? Oh dear, Clint - maybe you should spend less time worrying about feminism and more time brushing up on your grammar!
Lol the opening
I think one big problem is that both parents/couples NEED to work now to survive because living costs have skyrocketed over the last 30+ years.
YEAH LIKE IF YOUR NOT DOING 100K OR MORE HOW ARE YOU GONNA PAY FOR 4 PEOPLE (you, wife and 2 kids)
this women is unbearable , didnt stop interrupting pearl then says, am i allowed to speak now , i do wonder if women like her do it on purpose
They both interrupted each other the whole time. Neither were “lady like” like the trad wife
@brumtownmiller6130 pearl was a perfect lady until the other started being insufferable, watch it back , you will see
@@mofirminhosadiosalahrobert4904 no but even if she was, she shouldn’t let others dictate her lady like behaviour. She was opinionated, loud and she was the only person on the panel that swore. Not very lady like at all! Shows her true colours
@@mofirminhosadiosalahrobert4904 No she wasn't. You must not know much about her if this is your point of view.
@@anacc3257 are you a Liberal?
Is it me or is Pearl on this show more than any other guest
She brings home
the bacon
She absolutely loves attention.
Maybe Pearl makes good points that stick?
@@SJ-ru4ejThank you Captain Obvious but EVERY RUclipsr and television host loves attention.
It's nice change from all the radical feminists ye see, pearl wouldn't have a place on bbc itv channel 4 or 5 let's be honest about it
I absolutely love these 2 ladies.
Which 2? There were 3 and one of them was absolutely insufferable😂😂
I always looked to my parents for the ideal picture of family and love. My mother was a "trad" wife. Putting us (the children) before everything else.
And my father loved her so much.
All i ever did dream of was a family and house like that. Love, children and happiness.
Safe to say that did not pan out for me. Feels like in not fit for this modern world 😂
I’m a Trad wife, I suppose. I have never been unhappy, or feel reduced, by my role in our home. We have raised three children, one working with the police, and the other two in the military. We run a small business and I help with that. My husband works like a dog, and I definitely got the better deal!
Bravo
As a bloke I loved working like a dog for my little family and am sure you’re husband does as well (with the odd day when he doesn’t).
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respect ❤
You are normal.
People must really not like talking to their partner about this sort of thing because you shouldn’t be getting these sort of ideas online from people you don’t even know. Do what you want. Stay home and cook and clean if you want or don’t. Let people make their own decisions about this sort of thing and don’t force the “modern day” life down people’s throats. It’s not a bad thing to be traditional.
but it is a bad thing to be modern
If women are allowed to do what they want so should men, why should the work and provide why are they asked to do it?
@@withoutwords8136 depends what you mean by modern. They way the one with the extreme feminist views is wrong but there’s nothing wrong with moving forward. Just not in the sense she’s thinking
@@joebadger6969 I’m guessing you aren’t seeing my point.
@@joebadger6969 that’s not my views whatsoever. You’re blinded by your own ignorance and stupidity that you fail to understand what other people are trying to say. You’re so blinded that you cannot see that I actually have an agreement to your views and statement. It’s just you shouldn’t have to rely on the opinions of someone else to decide what you want to do. Ridiculous.
I love the sound of this 😂😂
Once again Pearl rocks on..
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love how at the end she didn't want to be interrupted, but interrupted everyone else during the entire debate.
Love the response from the Trad wife. She said everyone doesn't have to do it, but women can choose.
Absolutely gotta love at 10:30 how she says can I please finish my sentence. Almost as if she did it first to Pearl at 5:00, and continuously from that point on. Insane.
Please interview women from the 50s and 60s I would like to hear their voices.
God I hate the way that teal coloured dress person is engaging in dialogue. She wants to be listened to, but when others speak she is rolling her eyes and being generally stupid and disrespectful. I agree with the person in the red shirt.
You mean Pearl? She's the bomb
@@iykeharrison9161 It was Grace (British political commentator) in the teal shirt with red flowers. Pearl is an American youtuber and she was in red.
@@user-ru6ln9er4g That's what I meant
Estee Williams is the ideal high-value woman
Simp
her children will have ample milk supply, and I am totally wanting 2 jugs of milk right now.
I'm sure her cats will be well looked after
She's a white women
I'm sure her kitty will.@@mresilient1641
As a father of two - I can say that my wife and I constantly share the responsibilities and agree that marriage is an equal partnership. My parents who are very traditional think that our entire life should be dedicated to being with our kids and helping them with their homework and not having a social life. I simply don't agree and think that life doesn't end when you have kids, it only begins and with so much time being dedicated to raising our kids, it's even more important to have time for yourself. Similarly with women and marriage - it's so personal because everyone's born different. Everyone has somethign they enjoy doing whether it's cooking or going out and working, there's no one size fits all solution. This conversation really hasnt' done a lot to prove anything and was more about 3 women getting their personal opinions across for their specific age group and social status. Why these three women and not someone older or younger? Why limit the time to discuss it? Have a 3 or 4 part series to go overa ll aspects of this topic if you really want to bring it ot the table.
tho if people are forced into a relationship where they are unhappy they would cheat, like how back when men would have mistraces. if you have tried to work thing out and find the reason to why you are unhappy and it cant be fixed even with therapy and communication. why stay? such as, if you were a kid, would you want your parents to be unhappy, would you like to see ur parents unhappy. eventually, you would exhibit those emotions, because thats how ur parents were. a lot of mental health and actions from people are due to the fact that their parents are like that
Society is just becoming the whatever podcast
HAHAHAH this is so true and funny. FnF started this nonsense
Happily married, working and being a trad wife at the same time! Loving every bit of my Union 🙏🏽
When a man feels like he has the best wife in the whole world .He won't even look at any other woman . He will give his all to keep her happy which keeps him happy .
@Alix-yu8rq you imagine he has more free time?? No explain why??? And he works full time maybe in job he hates long hours and physically hard work 😢 stop being so one sided 😮 you would not last in a marriage as your so self serving
@@Alix-yu8rq you are literally no better. You only want a marriage you get more out of than him. From your argument.
It's OK for you to be selfish, total hypocrisy.
@@Alix-yu8rq Huh how did you interpret all of that? Are you stupid?
Good now make him a sandwich
Just the way they all speak gives us a lot of information as to who has PEACE within them and who is fighting against nature. 🤷🏾♀
It is possible to seek happiness. It is a fruitless exercise that is doomed to failure. The simple reason being, happiness begins and ends in the mind. It just sits there doing nothing until one applies will. The will to overwrite our perceived circumstances with a better understanding. Happiness is a choice. If we are not always choosing happiness? There can be only two reasons. We have lost our will. Or we have lost our reason. I also leave open the possibility that there are people on this planet who have never looked inward. Have never self examined with anything close to a critical eye. That unfortunately is generational and only reprogramming will fix it... One Love.
Narcissism has to go, that is clearly the big issue here. The world is now narcissistic and that cant work in every aspect of life. The happiest people ive known are those who are givers of their time or money or anything that involves helping others. Picking the right spouse will give u much greater shot at a successful marriage. Find someone with the same values as you.
ok, how are you planning on doing all this?
@@themodfather9382 how old are you redpiller?
The key thing here is "UNIT". If you have a strong family unit that works for you, then what's the problem? Team work makes the dream work and all that. Pearl is exactly the ideal woman for me. She's so open and honest, it would cut out all the bullshit arguments over who should do what.
true but she's old
@@drinkwater9891 Pearl (the lady in the red dress) is 26 y.o. She's only "old" if you are under 21 y.o.
@@TopHatNat wow 26 is youngish, looks in 30s
@mrade5321 Did you mean your ideal woman is Pearl (red dress) or the Trad wife Estee (black dress)?
Pearl is literally the opposite of what she preaches, she claims modern women are focused on careers, sleeping around and not getting married before 25 ( in their prime) but Pearl is very career driven, she uses her voice. She is almost 30 and has not settled down yet
2:06 I think we can end the discussion there. If someone wants to be a stay at home mother and finds a man who wants a stay at home wife... then what's the problem?
Saying things like men tend to be better people than women is quite a statement. Why? Are they less violent, commit fewer crimes, volunteer more for their community, are convicted less often for human trafficking and sex crimes? To share my view, I believe everyone should have equality in dignity and rights regardless of color, gender, and disabilities. Being a homemaker is a knoble pursuit. However, Pearl shows no sign of following her own offensive opinions that she throws around carelessly about how women should be quiet, serve their husband, and allow their husbands to cheat on them. She makes quite a lot of money in her social media businees of putting women down despite being one herself and she shows no sign of becoming a housewife like she claims women should be. Please note, I refer to her other videos as she holds back her offensive dogmatic views in this one. She holds no expertise in anything she talks about and gains popularity simply by being the loudest and most offensive. She is not someone that people should look up to as her views are harmful to both men and women.
We needed this debate years ago. But glad it’s happening now. We need more of it. Feminists vs trad women debates.
Duh we dont care...trad wife life is weird...second classy....why we want to be slave when we can be boss....? Why...give me a good reason
@nabaninandi4140 If you think marriage is about "being the boss" over the other person then good luck ever having a successful one
Imagine being 80 with no family. Sounds like hell.
Being a mother is not "just being a mother and not willing to do more", it's more than anything else, bringing children to life and taking care of them is the most beautiful and prestigious mission ever and the biggest contribution to the society on a multitude of levels and certainly way more important of a contribution than just working an office job to generate some rerources.
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Well said!
Except why should men have all the power? If women don't work then men get to control them through being the "breadwinner" and that's what this is really all about. Women should be able to shape their lives as they wish. If they want to be a "trad" mother, fine, and if they don't, also fine.
100%
Well, I have to work an office job because, guess what, not all men are good men or can afford to provide for both me and my child. Like, 90% of men don't make enough to provide for both wife and kids. But good for you you found a good trustworthy rich dude. Enjoy while it lasts.
Way back we used to repair before throwing out, even relationships. We don't repair anymore.
This is the 3rd interview I've had to turn off because Pearl doesn't understand how to wait her turn. The other people interrupt as well, but Pearl will just talk louder instead of letting them talk..
I decided to stay single for the rest of my life after my last relationship ended 7 years ago .......then i found pearl and i have hope again❤
Yep, you sound like the type of guy pearl had in mind when thinking about grifting to make loads of money.
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Rather have pearl do her thing and get money then hearing screeching man-hating creatures /shrug
@@abalamdepaimon6891how about neither. Why is it you complain about these women yet say you would rather pearl who is a clear grifter and chasing money.
The answer is you would prefer neither. Don’t try and justify Pearl by comparing her to feminists
Been single.for ten and made the same decision..... hold the line my brother no desertion
What a sad man. Find your balls and then go find God and your life will not be as miserable and pointless as it is currently. Who the hell says Pearl gives me hope? What are you a little boy? Man up
Divorce occasionally is a necessity, but never a good thing.
There is no "should". Women are welcome to be 'traditional' wives if they want. And they are free to pursue other goals if that's what they prefer. It's no one's business to tell them what to do with their own lives.
Anyone with a link to the full interview?
Oh wow. Such a beautiful closure from Estee. 💯🙏🏽✝️ She literally nailed what marriage is truly about, perfectly. She is a jewel in this world and represents those values and morals spot on.
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She repeated what Pearl already said.
When you are a man and a woman, it may not be a recipe for a happy successful relationship.
If you are a gentleman and lady, you have a chance to have a happy successful emphatic, grateful, and decent relationship, loved by your neighborhood.
Being a gentleman is a choice and being a lady is a choice.
I read a quote: "Being a male is a matter of birth. Being a man is a matter of age.
Being a gentleman is a matter of choice."
The same is about women.
I wonder if a non-gentleman marries a nice lady,
how the job of a lady may be fulfilled properly if he isn't acting accordingly.
Or if non-lady marries a gentleman, how the role of the gentleman can be fulfilled, if she doesn't give enough empathy to the gentleman.
Maybe better is to not talk about it but start to learn to be ladies and gentlemen, so more marriages will have chances.
Stop being just thinkers and start being a doer, lead by example, or be inspired by nice relationships.
Pearl is better
@@alexlang2086 I prefer an actual wife. Lol
Those who put family before self are happier than those who put themselves first. Doing your duty even when it's inconvenient makes you more happy in the long run than pursuing happiness at all costs.
"Am I allowed to talk now". She was the one who kelp talking over Pearl but she was the one who accused Pearl of talking over her. There's the self love right there.
9:10 She talking about COMPLEMENTING each other here. It’s just sad that I don’t hear people using the word COMPLEMENT and its derivatives anymore! 🤔