SS60-ds DayStar Solar Scout Telescope
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2019
- This is my latest solar telescope from DayStar Filters. The SS60-ds DayStar Solar Scout is a dedicated doublet refractor telescope for viewing or imaging the sun. Here are the following details on the sun:
* Doublet 60mm refractor
* 930mm Effective Focal Length
* Helical Front-end Focus with fine precision can focus for visual and imaging
* 16mm eyepiece aperture.
* Adaptable for 2" or Camera mount / views
* Micro-USB power cable and US wall charger
* Always on-band with USB power, 5v 1.5amp 110-240VAC wall adapter
* Tuning knob allows wing shifting +/- 0.5Å
* Solar Bullet' finder
* Vixen /Photo style mounting foot
* LED indicator for power, warming, ready, fault
* 3 year warranty
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Awesome! I’ve been waiting to see a review on this for both visual and imaging. I look forward to you getting some clear sky’s. Thanks Chuck!
Thanks Al. It's hard to believe that there is no other video on this telescope yet. I can't wait to try it.
Any video that starts with, “I am so excited, I got a new telescope to play with” gets an instant like.
lol, thanks!
Hi Chuck. How are you finding your quark scout compared to you original quark on your 102mm. I can’t decide weather to go for the scout or a quark fitted to my WO Star 71mm f4.9 350mm
Any insight would be helpful as you have both.
Cheers Paul
@@paullawrence8394 Get both, lol. The stand alone Quark will give you lots of detail if you put it on bigger scopes to get a close-up view, and the scout will give you the full disc of the sun with the right camera.
Chuck's Astrophotography cheers Chuck. I think I’ll go for the stand alone Quark for more detail on the prominences. I can use it with my TAK TSA102 or the WO Star71ii 👍
Amazing ! Can’t wait to see your images Chuck ! Cheers.
Thanks Rosevan
, I'm hoping the clouds break on Sunday.
Just bought the same scope! Cant wait to play with it!! Just going to figure out what accessories I need! :)
Chuck, that is a very nice looking scope. I wasn't aware DayStar had this refractor out on the market. This just might push me over the edge to buy one. Looking forward to seeing it in action. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks Paul. Even though it came out in the second half of last year, I was on'y aware of it the past few weeks. It's rather inexpensive compared to most other things in this hobby. Hoping for clear skies soon.
Cool cheers for that, May Clear Skies be with you.
Same unto you ;-)
great acquisition, congratulations.
Thanks EddWar, can't wait to try it.
looks like a nice scope chuck. hope to see some soon
Thanks kajouman, I hope to see some action with it soon too.
Pretty cool! Good luck!
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I was waiting for this review for long time i am realy waiting for the results thank you 👍
Hopefully the clouds will break on Sunday.
I'd love to see first light on this new scope live!
Cool, I'm gonna try to do that.
Hey Chuck, congratulations it looks great. I'd be really surprised if Daystar didn't design this to be full disc. I'm looking forward to more on this :)
Thanks AV. Really, it's my ASI183MM - that camera is a beast with the way it gets really close in on objects. It may not be the best match for this scope. But I can't wait to give it a go.
@@ChucksAstrophotography Yeah true it does obviously depends on the camera, maybe intended would be a better word. You can always plug your camera and the focal length of the scope into a program like 12Dstring, and see if it covers the full disc? you probably have your own software to check this, but if you're anything like me I sometimes forget that such things exist! lol
Thanks, I never heard of this software.
Hi Chuck, love your vids.. half way through this one so far...j looks great value...just quickly is this the Chromosphere version?
Just love the way you flick that knife! LOL!
lol, but it's getting kind of dull, I need to sharpen it.
I see you added some studio lights, looks good.
lol, I looked back at my other vids and noticed they were too dark. I grabbed the lamp off my desk to help out. I'm big time now, lol.
Congrats Chuck! Also looks good, matches your camera perfectly (I'm all about aesthetics). What about the prominence though, do you think some may get cut out with the 183 or even the 1600?
Thanks Joseph. I think it may still be possible to pick up proms with this, but I'll know for sure when I test it out. Yes, ZWO cameras do seem to match it nicely.
Big smile when box opens - check :)
lol
Looks great Chuck! Can you use some sort of a reducer on this if you want to to get the full Sun?
Thanks Ray. I do have a .5 reducer, but that might make it too small, maybe a .8 reducer? I don't know, but I'd rather be able to fit the full sun without it, I'll know when I try it out for the first time.
Will be interesting to see how critical the lack of electronic focuser will be on full disk.
Yes, it will be interesting because I like to image for long periods of time..
Nice Chuck! Hopefully you’ll have a chance to use it soon. Hey was I imagining it that you had a couple of solar videos up recently showing surface activity? Made with a Quark Chromosphere?
Thanks Wayne, I have solar videos up and plus I stick some solar shots at the end of my other videos like the one on M81 before this.
Chuck's Astrophotography yeah that’s what I was thinking of! Thanks.
Nice you put classical music in :)
Looks like a cool scope! Does it have threaded holes underneath the foot to mount on camera tripod or a tracker?
Yes, I just tried it and it thrreaded on to my camera tripod.
Nice! I've been looking at the 80mm version of this. Combined with the ASI 1600 gives you about the same field of view as yours with the ASI183.
Oh cool, I didn't know you would be able to fit that much of the sun on the 80mm version with the ASI1600. I have an Orion 80mm scope that I can use with the Quark I picked up last year, but even with the ASI1600, it does not seem I would be able to get anywhere near the full disk (according to the that astronomy tools website).
@@ChucksAstrophotography I used the same astronomy tools website you used, punched in 1400mm focal length and 80mm aperture and it looked to be exactly the same as what you had in your video. That said, the ASI183 has a greater resolution than the ASI1600.
@@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996 Cool, my Orion 80mm and Quark takes me up ti 2016mm focal length. We'll see how accurate all of this is when I try the new 60mm solar scout and my ASI183. Can't wait to give it a go.
@@ChucksAstrophotography I hope it goes well for you! I'm pretty much dead in the water with my imaging at the moment. My mount got damaged in transit after being tuned and I couldn't even calibrate in PHD2 so it had to go back. The guy advertises 2-3 weeks servicing time but in reality takes over 2 months. Not impressed! Thinking of biting the bullet and getting an AP mount like the Mach2GTO or 1100GTO instead.
@@thesammyjenkinsexperience4996 Oh that's terrible. I've never even considered Hypertuning my mounts. Guiding always seemed good enough. I'm not that familiar with the Mach2GTO or 1100GTO. I'm going to look them up.
Hi Chuck! Have you been able to add an electronic focuser for your SS60?
Mercury transiting is about 13.0″ if wikipedia is to be believed. With the ASI183 and 960mm FL you are imaging at about 0.5"/pixel so Mercury should be only about 25-26 pixels big. You could simulate that to see if it is noticable on a full disc.
Thanks, I'm glad I still have the Quark and AR102 as a backup plan.
awesome chuck! I'm thinking of buying one of these - do you think they are worth it? Can i get decents shots of solar prominences with it? Or if i used a smaller sensor do you recon i could capture some decent prominences? Also will i need an energy rejection filter?
This scope is good for the whole disk of the sun, the solar proms will be visible, but kind of small. That's why I also have a DayStar Quark. I would get a UV-IR filter for it - ASI cameras cause interference patterns to show up, and the filter fixes that.
@@ChucksAstrophotography after doing some research, I think I’m gonna go for the quark itself but can’t decide between chromosphere or prominence. If I get the quark instead then I can use it on my z73 which is a better fit and later on when I get a good front mounted erf I can use it on my c9.25”. What do you think? Also do you think chromosphere or prominence is better? Thanks for your help Chuck!
Im tempted to get one of these as I also have a quark, was going to get a PST.. is the ss60 as good as the quark or would i be better with the 40mm pst?
Hey Chuck! Thanks for the great videos! Do you happen to know how much the scope weighs, I can't seem to find detailed specs anywhere.
I stepped on the scale with and without it and the difference was 3 pounds.
@@ChucksAstrophotography Thanks Chuck! Appreciate it.
Hi Chuck. What has been your experience with the Daysytar SS60ds scope? I have a QHY5L-II-M and am considering jumping from my PST to the SS60ds scope
Have fun Chuck! You can always kill ants with it! Lol. Looking forward to seeing the first images
lol, I just saw on Instagram today that someone lit a sparkler when they pointed their telescope at the sun. Thanks Sean.
Congrats Chuck, but I'm personally very wary of Daystar products. FLO initially announced stocking them and no longer does. I've heard a lot of bad reviews from both end users and distributor/retailers - both in terms of the quality of workmanship, long-term reliability and post sales service and support from Daystar.
I'd personally go the Lunt route myself if I had the money...a proven track record in quality and post sales customer service.
Thanks, but I've had good luck with DayStar, including a NASA APOD almost right out of the box with the DayStar Quark. Over a year later, my Quark is still performing well.
@@ChucksAstrophotography yeah, I know. I'm just really very wary when it comes to hearing several bad reviews all echoing the same sentiment. Once bitten, twice shy as the saying goes!
What is the difference on using the Daystar Quark Chromosphere on a William Optics ZenithStar 73 mm f/6 refractor and the Daystar Scout 60 mm Solar telescope? Is there any difference in image quality between using a Quark Chromosphere on a refractor and the Sout 60 SS?
Hi thanks for the video.
I'm looking for a solar imaging scope...
What is your last recommendation? Quark with my es ed80 or this one?
Or any advise.
Thank you
I would recommend both, lol. But if you want to get up close and get that detail - I would go with the Quark and ED80 first. But the Solar Scout is very affordable if you want the full disc of the sun and it's a fun scope to play with - it would be even better if there was more sun activity.
Hi, how the visual performenes is and how you do it- I dond see a eyepiece houlder and focusser and tilt Turner. (Mayby a pst is better for only visual?
Yes, an eye piece can fit right there the camera goes instead, or you can put a diagonal and eyepiece there.
So Chuck, having the scope for a year what do you think of it now? Seriously considering buying one
A lot of fun - I would still recommend it.
What is a quark? I thought it is a sub-atomic particle. How does one int the telescope toward the sun using a ZWO AM5 mount and Asiair Plus?
im not really sure that astronomy tools works right, at least watching at my old transit files with mak90mm. btw does that scope have a 1/4" thread for simple tripods? it would be a really cheap way to get into solar imaging/visual. but im waiting to see the end results to compare it with little mak in white light
Right, I am not putting my faith totally into that astronomy tools website, I'll see how it goes when I get some clear skies. I just tried to fit it onto my camera tripod, it threaded on fine.
What do you think of the AVX mount ? I am looking for something in that price range that would be a good mount for astrophotography , do you recommend it or do you suggest something else , I have a 90x500 mm scope and a 8se with alt-az mount and I can`t do much with that but it got me learning enough to know that I wanna do astrophotography I think I would be using the small refractor most of the time .
I only used the AVX for around 6 months. it did ok, but not great - it had a lot of backlash and took very long to recover from dithering. I switched to the CGX, and the difference was spectacular. Now I only use the AVX for solar system objects.
thank you I think im gonna save more and go with CGX cause I dont wanna buy another one in 6 month thanks for your advice
@@stmartinjocelyn No prob. Good decision.
Is that the correct camera spacing that you show there or did you adjust it for imaging? I got the Solar Scout recently and cannot for the life of me get focus all the way. I've been on the phone with daystar and i've tried everything from super close in camera distance to way out. They recommended using a diagonal and eyepiece but not sure how that'll help me for imaging...
Yes, I was able to find focus with the setup I showed in this video. In fact, focus seems very wide on this scope - I found focus even with or without a reducer attached. I'm surprised you are having difficultly.
@@ChucksAstrophotography yea something must be wrong, i see a post on this forum that shows a photo of exactly what i'm able to get. and the focuser travels worse than that on either direction from it, but i'll call them again and see. stargazerslounge.com/topic/340651-daystar-solar-scout-issues/?tab=comments#comment-3737092
Chuck, i just checked the FOV - your 1600 will be a looser FOV framing (if you haven't checked already). I'm not sure what advantage the 183 has over the 1600 for planetary/solar imaging (enlighten me!).
edit: dang, I typed the above before I'd finished watching the entire video, and of course, 2 seconds later after I resume the paused video, you mention it lol...
lol, thanks for the info anyway
Perhaps maybe you could put a 0.5x reducer on it? I am juggling between getting a full quark for use with my 80mm apo F6 for closeup or the 60mm scout quark for full disk imaging. I have never used either quarks so it would be my first. With my asi178mm-cool, and the ds-60 scout, the FOV is below the full disk. If I add a 0.5x reducer, it gets me over a full disk which is what I would want if I went the scout route. I'm not sure a 0.5x reducer would work or not with a scout. What do you think?
I just tried your 183mm camera, if a reducer could be used with the scout, you could even get by with a 0.8 reducer for better full disk coverage. 0.5x would be to large for your setup.
I actually tried a 0.5 reducer a couple weeks ago with the full Quark on my 80mm scope and ASI183MM. It did not get me the full disk and the disk was a little oddly shaped unless it was placed perfectly in the center. But I also didn't like the idea of the reducer because the Quark has a built-in Barlow to get in close and then using a reducer to get farther back, it sounded like too much glass to me.
@@epicuniversal A .8 reducer would be an interesting idea on the solar scout to get me the full disk with the ASI183, unless I just opt to use my AS1600 for solar once in a while.
@@ChucksAstrophotographyGood point about extra glass with a reducer. I am awaiting an email from Daystar to see what they think about adding a 0.5x reducer and if they have any suggestions. If I went the scout route and a reducer would be to much of a problem with my asi178mm, I guess I could just deal with the narrower FOV and in the future if I get a dedicated camera, get one optimized for a full disk. I am looking forward to your live session and full review. :)
Do you recommend using IR/UV filter with it? If yes, is it OK to attach the filter after the quark?
Yes, I would recommend it for the contrast. The front of the Quark is threaded for a 1.25" filter, that's where I would put it.
@@ChucksAstrophotography can you attached the filter to the solar scout telescope? I ordered one as your recommendation with asi 290 mm... Is it OK to attach the filter at the camera nose or that doesn't work?
@@ebrahemmh No, in the case of the Solar Scout, you'll have to attach it in front of the camera.
@@ChucksAstrophotography do you recommend Baader Solar Continuum with that telescope?
@@ebrahemmh Not familiar with that filter.
Ooh, another toy, mercury will probably look like a dot, but it would be nice to capture.
An ISS transit would also be quite cool.
It's been over a year since I've gotten some new toys, I was long overdue - lol. The Mercury transit will last for hours, so I will have lots of time to see how it looks with this scope or the Quark and AR102. I just hope it's not cloudy that day.
@@ChucksAstrophotography
Yeah, I hope the clouds stay away that day.
I will probably just try to do some visual observing when that happens, I only have a normal filter though, so I can't wait to see what results you get with a nice solar scope.
Clear skies.
so Chuck, how is it compared to the quark?
They both serve a different purpose. If I want the full disc, I use this scope. If I want to get in close with lots of detail, I use the Quark. My preference is getting in close, so I use the Quark more. If there was more activity on the sun, like sunspots all over the sun, I'd like to use the solar scout and get the full disc.
That's good to know. I thought the scout with its 4x barlow can go up close, it's reach the dowe limit with high magnification eyepieces?
Do they provide the same amount of detail to the naked eye?
@@daslolo The scout can't get up close like the Quark because the scout is a 60mm scope. My Quark is attached to bigger telescopes.
@@ChucksAstrophotography do you fit the bigger telescopes with externally mounted ERF?
We need to come up with a third part of the day, besides night and day,.. for you to sleep!
LOL, thanks Diego, sleep is hard to come by sometimes, but I am catching up with all this rain.
@@ChucksAstrophotography Seriously your Solar photos are getting better and better, looking forward to those whole disk images, Chuck.
Get some rest while it rains, but clear skies soon!
@@dgodiex Thanks!
Dont scratch the glassess
lol, I'll be careful.
I am super interested in the daystar scopes/filters. I do want full disc. Cant wait to see more videos from you using this. I'm excited they have low price point hope the quality of image is good.
Thanks for the video. I think I should get this bundle for myself. BTW You should see Mercury easily with this setup. Have a look at this image of Mercury's previous transit, which I took through a 70mm f/6 refractor and an ASI 178MM camera, through clouds.
drive.google.com/file/d/0B9r0QxRyxDB7X3RZdHRXalZ0RWs/view?usp=sharing
Cool, thanks for the info.
That has to be some of the worst packings I've ever seen, apart from the white box, However, I'm loving the refractor, Kind of reminds me a little of William Optics Telescopes.
I can't wait to try out this scope. Everything was secure in the package, no worries. Now I just need the rain to stop.