Kelsey always mentions that many on the web do not believe he is a "real" pilot. Kelsey works for my company, and he is a humble expert in 747 cargo and passenger aircraft. He operates 747s all over the world for a major airline (I'm looking at his pattern right now.) He is a very charming colleague, despite his extremely rigorous schedule.
i think this is more of a meme now, from his early youtube days, not based on real comments anymore. Of course this is the internet any you always find some idiots somewhere.
That's how I have pictured him at work. I'm pretty sure most sane viewers understand Kelsey is the real deal. That leaves a lot of people to indulge in silly "theories", of course.
Back when I was practicing a forced landing, my CFI used to say, if you see a long, beautiful stretch that seems 10/10 to land, theres probably a powerline there.
I'm trying to think of a single time that'd be false. But, I can't come up with it. I mean, there's of course big ol farm fields that won't. But, at the same rate I don't think that's what you're talking about in the first place, lol
Sounds very similar in context to a comment about a certain person someone else said a handful of years ago :) I’ve heard that saying to, in a multitude of wording variations
@@DrWhom Maybe not the right word? "He flew prolifically" is better? Idk. 8000 hours in the bush as chief pilot for a 24/7 air ambulance service to northern communities only accessible by air.
A bush pilot (from now-defunct TPA Airlines out of Prince Rupert) saved me and 4 other lives, virtually minutes as our sinking boat went down due to ice damage in the Observatory Inlet. Salute all of those intrepid heroes ... not yammering about 20 points why courage/character overcame weather and other issues that would have turned most back in the first place. Really impressed by another one hired to take me back for some modest recovery. Salute to all of that intrepid breed!
On 5 October, 1982, in a place called Gods Lake Narrows, Manitoba, Canada, I flew a Cessna 206 on floats into a set of four power transmission lines. It was 3 minutes before legal dark, I'd never landed there before, and the wires were not where my sectional chart indicated they'd be. The local Hydro guy had moved them because he didn't have enough cable to replace broken cable after a storm. Instead of around a small bay and not a factor for floatplanes, he strung them 90' above the water, across the mouth of the bay. He then neglected to do the required paperwork to change the chart, generate a NOTAM, etc. I survived ten years flying the bush in northern Canada by taking a good long look at any proposed alighting site. Because it was almost legal dark, I broke discipline and went straight in. The wires had big red balls on them when installed, but locals shot them off pretty quickly. I first saw the rusty brown wires about 2 seconds before impact. I thought "so this is how it ends". The prop cut one, the other three brought me to a stop like an arrested landing on a carrier, but ninety feet up. When the nose started dropping I mashed the throttle and pulled the stick back and held it. We belly flopped onto the water and the floats absorbed the impact energy. We were bobbing up and down on Gods Lake and I was unhurt. Got a bit drunk that night, but had to fly a Norseman in the morning. The NTSB found me not at fault, but any bush pilot will tell you I was. After that I examined every potential alighting spot until I knew every rock and tree stump. This video flashed me back. I'm posting so that younger pilots might learn from my experience.
I'm a protection engineer at a utility who investigates transmission outages. One of the worst I've had to deal with was an older couple in a small plane that ran into our lines. Always wondered how something like this could happen.
Yeah, seeing the video I thought damn, that probably took a while to fix. Not only is the area an active Investigation scene for a while, but then you'd have to replace a _lot_ of wire. I accidentally drove through a wire fence once and was shocked at just how far from the impact point was actually damaged even though I only went about 3 feet into the fence. If that's what half a car does to wire, I hate to think what an entire plane with spinning props does.
They’re pretty invisible when you’re perpendicular to them and have ground clutter. Guys low over a river likely to not see the poles on the banks among trees, but even out in the desert the wires can be invisible at 100 mph. 500 agl should be your definition of low unless you’re landing.
Things happen. Not every day, but when you really don't see something, for any reason, you can get a nasty surprise. Think about that disaster when the air pressure systems were turned off, after maintenance, and it is on a checklist, but it was not seen. Off. Everybody passed out, before anybody realized there was no cabin pressure. Such accidents are rare, not seeing the cause is a problem.
My flight instructor told me when making an emergency landing at night is to turn on the landing lights. If you like what you see, leave them on. If you don't like what you see, turn them off.
I love Kelsey's "Concentrating, flying" face that he makes while reviewing footage. It somehow inspires confidence and I want all of my pilots to have this face while flying ♥
I flew NOE in the military. You gotta do a lot of pre planning for lines and towers when prepping the route. Our maps had to constantly be updated because cell phone towers literally go up overnight.
Don't let the doubters and the haters influence you or your presentations. 99.99% of us enjoy and benefit from your videos as there are great lessons to learn from. Thanks for what you do and your dedication to flight safety.
My instructor drilled into me the fact that a plane is *always* an aerodynamic vehicle, regardless of whether it is in the air or on the ground. The plane needs to be flown even when taxiing. I am always manipulating the ailerons, rudder and elevator while taxiing to keep the aircraft in the best aerodynamic configuration for the desired result (which is wings level and traveling along the taxiway).
Yes. My dad flew a big vertical fin taildragger, and.. .in strong winds taxiing, you can't turn against the wind... have to go 270o the other long way around. Weathervane effect from wind overrides rudder input. He also did 747s into Hong Kong etc and talked about the crazy approaches there, checkerboard hill and flying past tall apartments... and crosswinds normal..
I remember that on the first flights of the YF-23 the engineers were somewhat surprised to see that the plane's flight control computer (which of course they had designed themselves) was frantically making tiny adjustment to all these flight control surfaces as the plane was taxiing.
TRUE STORY: Many years ago I was out in my front yard cutting the grass when my buddy buzzed me in his Cessna 150. He had military experience flying low and slow and I live out in the sticks. My back was to him when he dove in on me and his altitude was pretty low - low enough to where he had to pull up a bit sharp to clear the trees on the other side of the road. He made a couple of passes, and then our budding Stuka pilot flew off to the airstrip to land. When he drove by later, I noticed that he looked a little green and I commented on his aerobatics. He said, "I pulled up to miss the tree - good thing because I didn't see the power lines!" Fortunately he spared me on that occasion having to answer questions from the state police and the FAA! I wouldn't say that it completely cured his spirit of daring-do, but it dulled it a bit!
The early astronauts, when coming back to Houston, used to fly low over there houses to notify their family... I doubt it was that low, but they also didn't fly Cessna. Edit i obviously mean their T-38 they travelled in, not the Space Shuttle....
If you sustain an injury during a crash, please go to the ED as soon as possible. Closed head injuries can result from those kinds of forces, and don't always present with symptoms immediately. Please get checked out!
You also can suffer internal injuries just as with a car. The father of my godmother died after a small plane crash. He survived the crash but did not get treatment on time. He had a ruptured spleen and bled out internally.
I don't care how many years I spend in the air, I will always be able to learn from Kelsey's videos. I for one appreciate the time this guy spends in bringing us life lessons, and who knows, maybe one of these lessons will save my life someday. Keep 'em coming Kelsey!
I know this is a year old but yes yes great respect for Kelsey, that's why we're here. That said, you want to know about flyin' and wires get some ag pilots on this page.
The contrast between light planes and crop dusters is highlighted by power line interactions. Light planes crash, crop dusters have incredible power to weight ratios and cut through lines and keep flying. My dad said they had an unwritten rule, hit lines once go back and hit them again. Reason was if damage was under $1000 pilot pays. Over $1000 damage submitted to insurance and pilot pays $500 deductible.
A couple of old saws related to the first segment. First is, "Flying speed is defined as slightly faster than falling speed," and anyone who takes off under what looked to be decent conditions with the stall horn blaring needs to remember that. Second is another way of putting Kelsey's point about never giving up: "If you're going to crash, fly the plane as far into the crash as possible." Keep flying it until you're either so slow or have shed so many parts that you no longer have any control over the thing, because if you keep it under control, it'll let you "crack up easy" compared to just throwing up your hands and letting Isaac Newton take the yoke...
Nice video Kelsey. My grandparents were in an accident in the 1980s where a US Air 737 on approach to Kansas City (if I remember correctly) was below the glide slope. Their plane hit and broke high tension power lines with the nose wheel. It damaged the landing gear and caused a landing without the nose gear after a go around. The plane was evacuated on the ground due to the fire risk, however no one was harmed in the accident. My grandparents still fly nowadays but do prefer to drive for most trips…
The pilot that had me intrigued, while driving in the country full of wheat fields was a crop duster. Along the highway was power lines. The plane flew the length of the field, under the power lines, then did a climb, the turn, and back cross the road, back under the power lines, and made the next pass down the field. I stopped and watched hem for a while. He was very aware of his width as he routed just enough to miss the power poles. I guess if a semi or other tall load passed by, he would have to alter his route. I finally continued past after he started another pass, so I would not be in his path. It was awesome to watch. I presume he had years of experience to be able to do that field. Most crop dusters fly parallel to the highway and power lines, but due to the length of the field, he flew the other way. This was in Oregon near the Idaho boarder.
ANOTHER TRUE STORY: I flew many helicopter missions in Iraq. I was an Engineer and we had to verify that the Baghdad Security Belt was operation. We could hear the pilots talk. Periodically we would hear "up" and the helicopter would jump up, then drop back down. After a couple of "ups" I asked what the "up" was for. I was told that up was to warn the pilot that we were approaching electrical wires.
Low level stall is a critical part of flight training and is instilled in to your memory from early on, everything Kelsey is saying is exact as I have been told by my instructor, I recently have had to carry out an emergency go round due to mechanical wind shear and I didn’t reconfigure the configuration in time and NEARLY experienced a low level stall, spot on Kelsey!
My heart goes out to the young man in the power lines. So glad they where ok. I’ve seen a day we used too much runway stall horn screaming and wheels just barely coming off the pavement. Luckily we did establish a climb and made tiny little turns praying and giving thanks for every foot. I hope that didn’t end his passion cause I’m sure he’s very aware of density altitude, weight and balance, and how an aircraft turns for the rest of his life. Hope they had great insurance too.
Everyone is missing the obvious issue of his collar only being slightly popped. It will obviously disrupt the airflow in a way not intended for the aircraft resulting in the center of lift being changed. Full pop or no pop at all
Always love the epaulettes on a newbie… Ida been lol except for the stupid of a near stall climbout. Somehow the sudden stop was anticlimactic. Didn’t anybody tell this kid horizontal component of lift is subtracted from vertical?
@@russbell6418 It's vectorial subtraction! Moment arms of force. Every bit like the angle of rigging on a lifting wire rope, strap or chain. The shallower the angle - logarithmically, the force exerted on the chain SKYROCKETS. Exact same with angle of bank. I was in an America West 737-200 with the cigar motors taking off out of Vegas headed to San Francisco. Just after takeoff: no speed, no altitude yet and a steep bank right away. We got microburst wind shear and suddenly I'm reading the brand of sunglasses a guy in his SUV at the intersection under us was wearing. The pilot pulled us out of it somehow. A older flying witress bitch was marching toward the COCKpit. someone nervously asked "did we just..." She yelled "YES! YES we DID just almost all die!" and she could be heard threatening the life of the pilot. She told him to have security ready at San Francisco because she was going to cut his throat if she ever got to him. Then she came out and smiled and said your drinks will be coming through soon. ALL complimentary! I'm sure some of us could use one! MAN, she was awesome. She should RUN an airline. She made it sound like this was not a first with him.
Good advice from Kelsey. When flying B707s out of Kennedy NY for an Atlantic crossing, taking off from runway 31L (the longest runway) my airline had a problem with noise violations --as the runway pointed straight towards Manhattan. I had a chat with a Pan Am Skipper and he told me to begin my left turn IMMEDIATELY after getting airborne. This was only a 10 degree bank and I increased it gradually until passing 400 ft to 30 degrees. It worked like a charm on 707s, DC 10s, and 747s. I used the same technique for landing large airliners in strong crosswinds, as Kelsey has suggested. i.e. approach in a crab--when crossing the threshold put aileron into wind and straighten out with opposite rudder. DON'T HOLD OFF--put her down positively and keep that aileron input on, using rudder to keep her straight. The speed brakes will deploy on wheel spin up and , once she slows, control is easy. I once landed at Istanbul with a 50 knot wind in a 747 with 20 degrees crosswind on an icy runway. This time landing was easy but taxiing was difficult because of "weathercocking" effect from that huge rudder. The 747 was a great aircraft for crosswinds--I landed one at Heathrow, London in a 40 knot crosswind, when some other types were diverting to other airfields. Keep up the good work , Kelsey. I wish that I could have flown with you! I KNOW that you are a real pilot!---Johnny.
@@LauRoot892 he is a legendary pilot from Pakistan International Airlines. He is yet to tell a story about his flight as a captain where snakes entered the cabin from cargo area.
Thanks for that hand out the window analogy. That is the best practical analogy that I can relate to that helps me understand the “why” of how lift and stalls occur
This was a very interesting video for me because they are speaking Afrikaans which is my mother tongue. I'll translate for you. The guy asks : Is everyone ok ? To which the lady answers : Yes, so hopefully everyone survived. He then asks : What happend She answerd : She doesn't know. And then a few words not meant for younger viewers.
I looked for the original video, but couldn't find it on RUclips. The people were speaking Afrikaans, so it was probably in South Africa, but it could have been Australia as or any country with South Africans living in it.
I really appreciate how you stay humble and admit similar mistakes when breaking down what went wrong. It's easy to point fingers and focus on making the other person look bad
I do so enjoy this man’s videos. Although I’ve no personal interest in aviation, my youngest son (age 10) is very interested and has expressed an interest in flying. With that said, do you notice, like I, the intense manner in which this pilot scrutinizes videos. The look on his face indicates to me, he is utterly absorbing every ounce of content. I feel, for so many reasons, that one could not ask for a more talented pilot to man the controls. He is very modest regarding his skill level. On a graduated scale of 1 through 10, there is no question, this pilot is a 10. My hope is that some day, my son can meet this amazingly talented and schooled pilot. He is undoubtedly, one in a million in skill and in regard to his personality, top notch!
hey man, usually don't make comments, but really appreciate the fact that you literally blasted into the video this time, not even an intro. I like the intro, but it's just funny cause this time I wanted to see how far into the video I could watch and see what the title was about before leaving for work real quick and you happened to jump in quicker than usual. Thanks for making good vids!! been learning a lot
I'm taking an aviation fundamentals class at my high school, and I recently learned how to recover from low altitude power-on stalls, which is a way that things like this can be avoided in the event what you are trying to avoid is ahead of you. But in this situation it could not be avoided because they were turning straight into the obstacle and would not have had time to recover. I initially started watching this channel because I liked aviation and aircraft, and I didn't really have much knowledge of the mechanics of flight. But now that I've been studying this stuff and actually learning to fly its so much more interesting to watch because I notice lots of little things I wouldn't have thought about before
Nearly lost my dad in the 70s when he hit HT powerlines 22kv I think at least. In the UK while spraying in a helicopter. He, like these people, was exceptionally lucky that day.
@@raylopez99 That has nothing to do with it. Electricity kills either by shorting to ground through your body, or by having discharges so powerful they cause explosions. Electricity can be compared to water in that sense: If the water doesn't run onto you, you won't get wet. As long as that plane is off the ground and it doesn't hit anything other that's non-charged, the powerlines won't short to ground through the plane and the people inside it should be fine electrically speaking. Which is why if you work high-power circuits, you sit on a rubber mat. It insulates your body from the surrounding area and prevents you from being a conduit to short to ground. So even if you screw up and it's accidentally live or it's meant to be live but you make a wrong connection, the power won't actually course through your body and kill you.
@@nvelsen1975 It’s also why animals that climb on live powerlines, birds, monkeys etc, don’t get electrocuted. (Though monkeys do get electrocuted often because they have limbs, hang and swing from them, and will create that path to ground whilst being on the wire, but otherwise many will sit on them without any harm and have likely learnt to not touch certain things whilst they’re on it). Also why it’s cool seeing those working on powerlines hanging from a helicopter to do their work!
@@nvelsen1975 I took it to mean the fact that they collided with wires while flying, bringing the aircraft down hard. Not the electricity. The engineering of the 172 definitely was a factor. But luck was a bigger one.
@@OfficialSamuelC I watched two ravens get fried one time. They were either fighting or it was mating season and they simultaneously touched different wires and each other. Boom dead birds and power out on the corner.
Having spent most of my flying years as an ag pilot power lines were a daily hazard. A bigger hazard was flying in the environment while fatigued. That is when while working under multiple power lines I made a mistake and pulled up into a major distribution line. Strong aircraft and dumb pilot survived to fly again.
My dad used to fly under on every pass in the field with his Pawnee, if there was a pole in the way he'd kick rudder into it so the wing would swing back and miss it. I grew up watching it, I spent my first year flying under them in a cat, then I caught a support wire for a damaged pole that I didn't see until it was too late to go over the wires. I haven't flown under wires since that season, these bigger air tractors fit but just barely, your safety margin isn't there like it is with a pawnee or cat or 188, so I just don't. I don't mind doing a few trim passes, or even a bunch of them with bigger cross country lines, and all the people driving by hoping to see me fly under them will just have to be disappointed 👎
@@uptown3636 I guess it's more about how comfortable you are with it. In some cases, flying under is probably less risk than going over when you're talking about really tall wires, as you're not having to do the mental math on how soon you need to be pulling up out of the field in order to clear them, you just fly under and do your turn after...but even if it's technically a little safer to do it that way, it's probably a lot more dangerous in practice if you're averse to the idea of it. I still fly alongside wires to see if I can safely go under them, knowing that I won't, just so I'll have a backup to consider if things aren't looking good for whatever reason. It's not often we get to have options or a plan b, so it's nice when there's one available.
So did your razor wire cut the lines to save the plane, or? Always wondered if those razor cutters on AG planes ever got used? I hired a AG pilot to help me frame my house, he had some unbelievable stories flying under power lines.
Aircraft hitting wire: The obvious thing to do would be level-off momentarily (when the stall horn sounds) right after lift off and establish a solid climb-out without the horn blaring. The horn is there for a reason and you need to do something to make it go away (it stops automatically when the pilot corrects the situation) not continue to fly with it blaring. In choppers when the low-rotor rpm warning goes off you only have a couple seconds to respond before you die. In the index accident the horn blared for a while without corrective action. In fact, the only actions, a steep bank, made the problem worse. The lesson: never fly with an inexperienced pilot in a 172 who feels the need to wear captains bars (props are never relevant to a safe flight).
You're a real pilot bro!!! Don't listen to the haters, I've watched you and looked up everything you said and it turns out your legit so now that I'm your favorite fan teach me to fly and keep on keeping on!!!
I remember when my son was little and a 320 flew over our heads getting ready to land..."Mommy, why is that plane flying sideways?" "It's crabbing." "How can they catch crabs in the sky? I thought they were in the ocean..." This is when I knew he would grow up to do great things! 🤣 Have a great week everyone!
I loved your explanation of the need for counterintuitive inputs. Essentially you're telling the plane to go away from the wind with your feet, so it follows the runway, but toward the wind with your arms to keep the wings off the pavement. It would feel like the opposite of a coordinated turn.
#74 Gear Kelsi, on the first crash in a cessna 172/175 (I fly those), you were saying that he was turning.. Look at the yoke. He has maximum right aileron input. Something stalled the left wing. He was fighting to keep the aircraft level.
The problem is the person filming took the camera off the front in the few seconds before you see that max input. I agree with you about the stall. However, the pilot might have started a left turn and quickly tried to stop the turn rate. I am wondering what the density altitude was at the time. I remember once taking off from a small airport in Colorado. I was in my Cessna 182 and my aircraft had a difficult time climbing. There were 2 adults and 3 suitcases onboard. That day was one of the days I was glad I bought the TRUE 4-seater. Had I been in a 172 I would most likely not be alive now.
Wrong. it's called over banking tendency, and requires opposite aileron input to maintain the bank angle. if he stalled the wing and used opposite aileron he would have spun, not maintained a constant bank.
Hard to tell from the video but it looks like he was drifting left even before he left the ground. He had at least 3 persons on board so he was probably heavy. He never had enough airspeed to rotate and was stalling as he left the ground. I guess he rotated early because he was running out of runway but had he pushed the nose down in ground effect I think he could have made it. Also it seems like he released the brakes too early for what was a short and soft field takeoff. Was the right seater his instructor? I hope not.
Years ago, I had a Bellanca Scout, used it mostly for towing gliders - I'm also a CFIG. Fellow pilot flew it over to the county fairgrounds - we had a Blanik L-13 on display there, he was going to bring it back to the little airport we flew out of. He hit the high-voltage power lines going in. The Scout flipped, landing upside down and burst into flames. He escaped most of the flames, and broke a few bones. My Scout was totaled. Really appreciate and enjoy your videos, but my VA pension does not pay enuf to join up.
Stall and a slight wing drop, corrected with aileron (no no when lower then Vsse) and definately a lack of rudder. Causes wing to drop more and would have spun if he was higher. I don't think the bank was intentional and was the beginning of a spin, which just happened to be caught by power lines. Actually lucky to catch wires IMHO.
Wrong. it's called over banking tendency, and requires opposite aileron input to maintain the bank angle. if he stalled the wing and used opposite aileron he would have spun, not maintained a constant bank.
I thought the power lines may have actually been fortuitous as well. Also the fact that the trees/bushes weren’t big enough to cause a head on collision, but we’re still large & voluminous enough to provide a little cushion.
@@SoloRenegade ... Well, the pilot DID apply FULL OPPOSITE aileron. It didn't work. That plane was in the brink of the stall and the pilot didn't have enough aileron authority, evidently. Possibly because he was at full power and very slow speed without applying enough right-rudder correction.
@@adb012 or he was countering some turbulence. Sometimes turbulence can cause a wing to drop aggressively and need lots of counter aileron. Yes, the wing was on the edge of stalling for sure. Hard to say about his rudder work given we can't see it.
Love that you explain these things. Thought about you yesterday as my house is not far from the end of a runway on a tiny airport in Costa Rica. Someone was practicing take offs and landings yesterday afternoon as we sunbathed.
I always hated steep turns (because I sucked and kept blowing that stall horn). Anyone can point & shoot and 'fly' a plane. Being a **pilot** is all about never giving up and finding a solution. Keep your blue up and your brown down
One of the best landings I ever experienced was when I was a passenger on an Allegheny Airlines DC-9 landing in Erie PA in January 1979 and looking out my window only to see the runway center line and about the same time one of the pilots said over the PA system not to be alarmed if it appears the plane is not configured “normally” that we can relax as the winds coming off the Lake (Lake Erie) will straighten us out mere seconds before touchdown. It was a landing smooth as glass, unbelievable.
Kelseyville, Today is such a monumental day in American and Aviation history. As a tradition I listen to the NORAD and ATC recordings. Thank you to you and all pilots and Flight Attendants for your bravery!.Never forget! One Love
I enjoyed this video, although the first part where the pilot flies into the powerlines was actually pretty scary until finding out that everyone was alright. It's hard to believe that anyone would not believe that you are a real pilot Kelsey, with all of the interesting knowledge that you share, which could pretty much only come from experience. You can't please everyone I guess, but I always find your videos fun and interesting, I guess some people might just need to give you a chance👍🙂
I didn't know that anyone questioned if you were a real pilot or not. After watching this video, I can say with absolute certainty that YOU ARE NOT A COMMERCIAL PILOT- you might have been a student working on your Private Pilot License, but YOU HAVE NEVER FLOWN A 747 as you state, and you are a LIAR. If you're not lying, you're too stupid to fly a plane commercially. I'm being rough on you because you could cost lives. I haven't been a fixed-wing pilot in 30 years. I've messed around with rotary wing stuff, but that's so that I understood it better. Your hand outside the window is a joke! That hand isn't self-powered like a light aircraft. YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG ON WHAT IT DOES, ALSO!!! You put your hand out of a moving vehicle, and it will rise much more as the angle of attack increases. Your hand doesn't stall because it isn't self-powered by a small engine like the Cessna in the video. I don't think I even want to tell you more since you are a fraud. I could explain the video frame by frame, but you, in your cheap Halloween outfit, have no idea. I'm going to get youtube to pull your account. I can easily show that you are promoting dangerous ideas. In your next video, take off the costume and admit that you are a fraud. Otherwise, I will make it my life's goal to get you shamed or arrested. My family owns a number of FBOs, and I will get to the bottom of you either way. HAD YOU RATHER COME CLEAN ON YOUR OWN, OR ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE ME DO IT? "When you used to fly 747..." You can't even explain a stall in a light aircraft!!! Apparently, people question whether this guy is a real pilot or not. I can say with absolute certainty that HE IS NOT A COMMERCIAL PILOT- he might have been a student working on his Private Pilot License, but he has NEVER FLOWN A 747, as stated, and he is a LIAR. By making these videos "for pilots and those interested in flying," he is making the skies more dangerous. RUclips has an obligation to take down his content if he contends that he's a real pilot. People will get killed. Just look at the quality of his uniform if you doubt me. That's a Halloween costume. He wasn't issued that by any airline. Thanks- Nick
Your insight and information on aircraft and issues that can occur. are tremendous.. No other pilot goes to all the trouble to inform and make every video a learning experience. One day a Cessna, the next a 747 no airplane too small or too big.. Thanks for doing this.
Great analysis; as a CFI specializing in mostly high wing, tail wheel instruction, cross wing landing experience helps instill solid corrections to consistently touchdown straight on the centerline! Numerous aviations used to encourage tail wheel training. Great job!
Hi Kelsey, greetings from Argentina. In min. 7:09 it seems to be a part of a footage taken by an argentinian Y. Tuber called "Sir Chandler" in occation when the Buenos Aires airport "Jorge Newbery" was re-opened after a huge upgrade. Longer and wider runway and ILS system, new taxi ways and major constructions on the airport it self. I saw that footage from his channel and obseved the same abnormal take-off of this Citation and I wrote "maybe she was hitten by a down-draft from a previous take-off" since there was a lot of them. If you look at the begginning of the take-off, you maight notice the start roll is not as usual; maybe the pilot(s) ware waiting for take-off clearence from the tower. Sorry about my english spelling since it is not my main lenguage. As always, cheers from NE Patagonia, (a dream place).
Thanks Kelsey I got another clue as to what happened in my brothers crash. They probably on takeoff when they turned, which we know it was at the wrong place, their wings might have been too close to the ground to get enough lift. Just my guess but it makes sense thank you❤️
It may seem counterintuitive, but being very close to the ground [say, a few feet, with something like a small Cessna in the first clip] will make the wings produce _more_ lift than being higher above the ground with all other things equal. This is called "ground effect", if you'd like to learn more. The trouble with this is that, while a plane a bit beyond its performance capabilities may be able to lift itself a few feet off the runway without much trouble, it will have a harder time producing as much lift climbing to a few hundred feet above the runway without additional power or airspeed.
Kelsey; Don't pay the trolls any mind. They're mentally challenged so you have to keep that in mind. Any rumor or conspiracy is better than real-life to them. I enjoy all of your videos even though I'm not involved with aviation at all. Keep doing what you're doing. As a service-technician I used to fly a lot. I experienced a severe crab-landing in the Azores once and complimented the Portugese pilot when leaving the plane. He had a big smile on his face when he heard my compliment as he appreciated someone realizing his talent and a job well done.
Discovered this channel recently and watched a lot. As a lay person, I really appreciate the honest confessions of mistakes or near mistakes by Kelsey and his neutral and qualified observations about flying as physics and learning from events.
So so close to 1M Kelsey! For me though I don’t fly alone. Despite gaining my PPL. I’m still not sure I’m confident enough to fly without my former instructor and I’ll tell you, my solo hours were scary as heck!
OMG. This happened to me on a solo flight as a student. I was wary of the winds before I got into the plane so I asked a flight instructor for an opinion. He said it was a great day to fly, so off I went. As soon as I rotated, I felt that it was a mistake since a the crosswinds were pretty strong and gusty. I flew out to a practice area and just circled while I calmed myself. I wasn’t looking forward to the approach and landing though I was okay with crosswinds in training. But the winds now got even gustier. Eventually, I decided it was now or never so I made my approach. It was great and all my training paid off. However, I stopped flying the plane because I was so proud of myself. Of course, aviation has a way of humbling a pilot. My right wing lifted and my right main gear came off the runway unexpectedly (172R). I immediately put aileron correction and got straightened out. LESSON LEARNED. Thanks Kelsey. You da best!
I like watching your videos and relating experience issues like this one on high crosswind landings. Your method of using rudder to line up the centerline makes a lot of sense at the compromise of drifting in the direction of the wind. Bottom line, when you're at the controls of a big aircraft like this with a considerable crosswind you have to have the senses and reflexes of a cat.......By the way your style of storytelling has had me laughing my derriere off several times. Thanks again for the videos and keep them coming!
What a nice surprise to hear Afrikaans in the 1st part of the video. Thought I was on a wrong channel 🤣🤣🤣. We had quite a few incidents in the past week. A plane from the South African Police Force fell just after take off and 2 planes caught fire at OR Tambo International Airport.
For the second video, my guess is that the pilot leaned forward to retract the landing gear lever. As he did that he pushed slightly on the controls. You can see that the gear retracts as the plane loses a little altitude.
@@toddsmith8608: Yes, it seems like the flaps weren't set right; I was surprised it got off the ground quickly, and then dipped a little. I also thought it happened as the gears started to retract.
Hi Kelsey, great video as always. With regards to the first clip, the aircraft involved is a Cessna 175. This accident happened on the 17th of July this year, near a town called Hermanus here in South Africa. Investigation is still in progress, but early indications point to high density altitude and being overweight as the culprits. The pilot was also not very experienced. I worked as an aircraft broker for a company a few years ago, and actually handled the sale of this aircraft to the current owner (not the pilot who was flying though).
Hi Kelsey, I'm a 69;yr "young" senior,,, Thoroughly enjoy your videos,Also the time it takes from your life to post the great videos you post, Then still go forward with a career as well as enjoy your "self" time,,as we all deserve and need. Please don't waste your important time in your life by responding to ,"so called human life form". Imagine how very ignorant,sad, dissatisfied, with there own life they must be to place such horrible remarks of you,,! Those people only occupy and take oxygen from the planet that was meant for humans with a desire for life, not negative unhealthy remarks against others on earth that give an Aura of good , ,God Speed Sir,,. Thank You for what You offer ,,the good Souls of our Planet.
Hey Kelsey! Thanks for your hard work! Haven't seen a bunch of your videos for the last six months so last week I've ended up watching the new and re-watching a lot of the old ones. Your content has such a great positive energy, that's amazing!! Besides that also wanted to ask: why no "viral debrief - coming up" intro with that upbeat music this time? Cheers from a long-time viewer! UPD: oh, wait, I might have already guessed, why.
First bit, it isn't that it generates less lift, but rather that the vector of the lift isn't directly down, so it can't offset gravity as well, thus you kind of slide down the slope. On the second video, I actually had exactly that happen on one of my take offs the other day (currently working on my PPL). What happened in my case was that the 172 I was in had a lighter nose than I was used to and my rotation ended up giving me too high of an angle of attack and started losing air speed rapidly, so I ended up overcompensating a bit on the correction to get my airspeed up to Vy and momentarily lost positive rate of climb and then recovered it almost exactly like the second video. Sure I was in a 172 and not a private jet, but seems to me like it's probably a similar situation given the timing.
With regards to airplane crashes a good rule of thumb is that if you can tell it was/is a plane after the crash, it wasn’t a bad crash. They’re fortunate on so many levels here.
Talking about soft landing with strong wind, one day I was flying to Amsterdam and it was very windy, the plane was tilting left and right, I rember the crew walking as if they were drunk... So I was expecting a very hard landing... But the pilot landed the plane as if it was just a normal beautiful day, the landing was as smooth as baby skin 😅. Very impressed by his skills...
The example in the video is very exaggerated because there were mistakes all over. But from my little experience doing engine-out simulation, you can very easily miss them. Thank god the instructor was there
Over weight. Out of balance. Too slow. Tailwind. Incorrect wind correction. Improper technique. As to why they let that happen. Look up continuation bias.
Well, Kelsey, as a CFI, I think you missed the elephant in the room in the first video. In the first video, the pilot obviously got into a classic takeoff power-on stall developing into a spin. And he exacerbated the problem by right yoke input, creating adverse yaw to the left. It appears there were four persons in the airplane, so I guess the plane could also be overweight or out of balance, contributing to the stall/spin. Cutting through the power line is just a result of the stall/spin. The pilot should have lowered the nose and got into ground effect as soon as he heard the stall horn. Another lesson to learn from this accident is that the pilot appears to have the "look at me" macho attitude that needed to be addressed. His two shoulder stripes are a sign. LOL. So, the moral of the story is that never fly with someone with two stripes. These are the private pilots who wanted to show off the fact they are certified to fly, but really lack the skills of a commercial pilot.
@Michael Jackson The Guilty Child Molester Exactly! The pilot kept pulling back on the yoke thinking that would somehow pull the plane up. This pilot needs some serious additional training if he wanted to fly again.
I think you probably are a really good pilot. I haven't seen you at work of course but I think I can tell from your videos you have the right attitude and skills to be a good pilot. Thanks Kelsey for your videos.
Regarding the second video: Those types of takeoffs are a common thing in Aeroparque Jorge Newbery (and in Argentina in general). Local Learjet pilots seem to pride themselves in doing that, and for us plane-spotters it's a delight. There are a few videos of different Learjets doing these type of "Low pass takeoffs" on RUclips.
As an avid sim flyer I'm wondering if the Argentinean plane dropped due to retracting the landing gear as early as he did. I seem to remember hearing and working out on the sim that it will cause a loss of altitude due to the changing aerodynamics.
My instructor told me some advice that took me a while to appreciate: he said if you’re going to crash into something then do it as low and as slow as possible, e.g. if you’re going to hit a power line do it with the top of your wing rather than your U/C - less distance to fall and who knows you might even get away with it.
I remember one time, seeing a Piper Cub landing in a particularly heavy wind and turning final at midfield, because he knew he'd actually be moving *backwards* at touchdown...
Yay, more fun pilot issues! What I don't get, as soon as he rotated, stall warning sounds but he continues to pull up? Does this guy have absolutely no basic training whatsoever?
@@MattyEngland I don't think he "banked." You can't see the yoke input, at the beginning, but when the camera pans over, it's full right. I'm thinking the left wing stalled. That's where the warning horn is well.
Hey Kelsey, just want to say that I strongly believe you are a 747 pilot! Mate your facial expressions are totally priceless when you are watching the videos that people supply for your feed back.. keep up the great videos mate they are awesome! The one video you did that I always remember was the money coming out of your nav computer and the crew staff member thinking it was a company allowance 😆😆😆. Great channel.
The first part about power lines. That's how I lost my Uncle (Dad's older brother). My Father was ex-Air Force pilot and became a commercial airline pilot for Eastern. My Uncle had is private pilot's license and belonged to the EAA. He also had a dealership for ultralights and Bensen Gyrocopters. He would perform at air shows. He was from Illinois and went to to California. My Dad had told him to never fly under powerlines and to be aware of where they were. My uncle tried to land under powerline which ended up under the top rotor and above his head. The result was not good. My Uncle was killed instantly. Not sure if it was the rotor or the powerline that decapitated him. To make things worse, my Aunt was watching. That was June 16, 1986.
Thanks for the video analysis Kelsi. Wanted to ask you, what do you think about the side stick controls in an Airbus? Can they be a liability in stressful situations where communication between pilots can be stretched to the limit and/or break down, as one side's input is not directly transferred to the other and vice versa.
@@Mixer-he2wb Yes. This is one of the reasons I am asking. But this is not the only tragic accident where the side sticks have played a crucial role. An Airbus 320 from Yerevan to Sochi also crushed into the sea in a similar way. And I'm sure there's more incidents that have escaped publicity.
I want to add something to the first scene: It looks like the bank is uncommanded because the plane was stalling and dropping a wing. You can see he has aileron right for nearly the entire duration, which is terrible stall recovery (aileron during a wingover stall will only make it worse, use rudder instead)
Kelsey. you are the best. I always enjoy and learn from these videos. I'm a low-hour private pilot with only a single engine land license and no other ratings. I was licensed in the early 70's and stopped piloting anything in the early 80's for a number of different reasons. Flight training has changed since then, but I'm guessing an airplane still flies the same, just with more systems. The laws of physics haven't changed. When I was training, I was taught to get the wings level and lower the nose enough to regain lift when approaching a stall. I'd like to see a lesson about how, when, and why a pilot gets the airplane into a full stall, especially when close to the ground or an obstacle.
In 1986 here in Pomona, California a small plane hit electrical transmission lines and got "hung up" in them. The plane never fell to the ground and was lowered to the ground after Edison turned off the power, It took quite awhile and the pilot was able to walk away. the plane only touched one phase so there was no shorting that took place. Basically, it was no different than a bird landing on a power line.This may sound like I made it up, but it's 100% true.
THANK YOU!!! This is one of those life-saving pieces of advice that GA pilots desperately need! We've lost waaaaay too many of us this year on spin-stalls after takeoff. Imma share this with the Smokehouse Pilots Group and my flight school.
I didn't know that anyone questioned if you were a real pilot or not. After watching this video, I can say with absolute certainty that YOU ARE NOT A COMMERCIAL PILOT- you might have been a student working on your Private Pilot License, but YOU HAVE NEVER FLOWN A 747 as you state, and you are a LIAR. If you're not lying, you're too stupid to fly a plane commercially. I'm being rough on you because you could cost lives. I haven't been a fixed-wing pilot in 30 years. I've messed around with rotary wing stuff, but that's so that I understood it better. Your hand outside the window is a joke! That hand isn't self-powered like a light aircraft. YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG ON WHAT IT DOES, ALSO!!! You put your hand out of a moving vehicle, and it will rise much more as the angle of attack increases. Your hand doesn't stall because it isn't self-powered by a small engine like the Cessna in the video. I don't think I even want to tell you more since you are a fraud. I could explain the video frame by frame, but you, in your cheap Halloween outfit, have no idea. I'm going to get youtube to pull your account. I can easily show that you are promoting dangerous ideas. In your next video, take off the costume and admit that you are a fraud. Otherwise, I will make it my life's goal to get you shamed or arrested. My family owns a number of FBOs, and I will get to the bottom of you either way. HAD YOU RATHER COME CLEAN ON YOUR OWN, OR ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE ME DO IT? "When you used to fly 747..." You can't even explain a stall in a light aircraft!!! Apparently, people question whether this guy is a real pilot or not. I can say with absolute certainty that HE IS NOT A COMMERCIAL PILOT- he might have been a student working on his Private Pilot License, but he has NEVER FLOWN A 747, as stated, and he is a LIAR. By making these videos "for pilots and those interested in flying," he is making the skies more dangerous. RUclips has an obligation to take down his content if he contends that he's a real pilot. People will get killed. Just look at the quality of his uniform if you doubt me. That's a Halloween costume. He wasn't issued that by any airline. Thanks- Nick
Maybe just messing around and having fun… There should be, or possibly are, memorial plaques marking the spot where the fun ended. Everyone of them should start to read with those exact same words. Kelsey, lately I’ve been observing your pic in pic on these videos. You have a great sense of humour and many probably think just like you say about questioning you being a real pilot. Watching you as the clips are rolling, you are 100% down to business! The intensity of concentration displayed in your eyes sir without any doubt, shows that yes Kelsey, you are definitely one… DAMN FINE PILOT! ✈️ Cheers!🍺🇨🇦
Some of the best, shortest, most uneventful flights I've ever been on have been small regional jets out of small regional airports. I flew from Kalispell Mt to Las Vegas to pick up a connector to BNA at Nashville years ago on a regional. The pilot flew that thing like a spoiled rich kid who'd just gotten his driver's license and daddy's money bought him a brand new sports car that had way more hp than he oughta be trying to drive with no more experience driving than he had. We were airborne and turning out at almost the same time, you couldn't have leaned forward in the seat if you'd wanted to in that climb. That dude was awesome. He absolutely took advantage of the fact that it was a small airport with very little other ground/air traffic. He wasn't letting any grass grow under his feet. When you've flown a bunch in your life, and set around for hours in myriad completely unavoidable, man made delays, those regionals are a breath of fresh air once in a while. Still my favorite jets to fly on. Dunno who that guy was, never met him, but he made a good impression. He was perfectly professional, both on the pa and flying the plane, just getting it done while he could. Sure can respect that. Hope he's on to whatever he wanted to be by now, could be retired by now I guess.
Good video; I'm not a pilot but I did train as an A&P tech when I was younger. Considering an aircraft is in a controlled fall at a speed between 150-200 mph I can't fault a windy landing even if its' ugly. I know a couple pilots and they both have said "Any landing you can walk away from is a good one." Be safe.
Hi Kelsey! The second short is indeed in Argentina. The airport is Aeroparque Jorge Newbery (SABE), the only airport inside Buenos Aires City (Ezeiza/SAEZ and San Fernando/SADF are the other two international airports, but those are in the suburbs) and that is a take off in RWY 13, that's a 6890 ft. TORA runway. no obstacles near it, so plenty of room for this guy to take off at VY. If you fancy eating some asado and a flight around the city, next time you are here let me know ;)
A few words on plane structure. While working at remote lodge in Alaska, we would have tourists fly in and out and we would man a radio to tell the pilots the weather at the lake for them to have an idea on if they can land. One foggy morning we tell the pilots coming in that the fog is clear on the lake and looks to be about 120 ft ceiling. A couple pilots found a hole from above to come down through the fog and land on the lake and others turned back and went back to base. A pilot flying a De Havillend Beaver thought he found the same clear pocket, wasn't above water as he came down, once under the fog made a steep pitched turn and the right wing clipped the bog on the lake and the plane starfished landing nose down in the bog, tail pointed up to the sky. Luckily the bog held the weight and the plane stayed on the bog. The wings were thrashed and the body had some dents, but all 8 passengers and the pilot walked away. One good cut behind some ones ear from the headphones but no major injuries. They do engineer these things to take a beating.
A distance relative of mine "borrowed" a plane to prove that he could fly in WWII. Flew into powerlines and his injuries were severe enough to keep him out of the service. His plane was literally hanging high above in the wires like a spider that trapped its prey into the web.
I used to paraglide, and a lot of pilots had fears about power lines. best way to cross them if you are low is to cross at the pylon, that way you can see more easily if you are too low
This is why I want my CFI to put me through stalls to practice how to recover from them. I haven’t started the actual flying part yet aside from my discovery flight. I’m taking ground school in my own in my own time before hand, and adding Kelsey’s videos to my self-imposed curriculum.
Powerline incident happened in South Africa. Being from there and speaking Afrikaans I could understand what they said. Very happy to know everyone is good
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Kelsey always mentions that many on the web do not believe he is a "real" pilot.
Kelsey works for my company, and he is a humble expert in 747 cargo and passenger aircraft.
He operates 747s all over the world for a major airline (I'm looking at his pattern right now.)
He is a very charming colleague, despite his extremely rigorous schedule.
I made $300/wk selling my neighbor’s armpit hairs. PM me an I’ll tell you about these Wicca chicks who pay top Dollar for this stuff.
If they don't believe Kelsey, why would they believe you? Probably not worth going down that rabbit hole...
Polar Air Cargo I think!
i think this is more of a meme now, from his early youtube days, not based on real comments anymore.
Of course this is the internet any you always find some idiots somewhere.
That's how I have pictured him at work. I'm pretty sure most sane viewers understand Kelsey is the real deal. That leaves a lot of people to indulge in silly "theories", of course.
Back when I was practicing a forced landing, my CFI used to say, if you see a long, beautiful stretch that seems 10/10 to land, theres probably a powerline there.
I'm trying to think of a single time that'd be false. But, I can't come up with it. I mean, there's of course big ol farm fields that won't. But, at the same rate I don't think that's what you're talking about in the first place, lol
Unless you're in Florida, in which case the field will be filled with 10' high sprinkler heads that aren't visible above 300'.
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My dad was a prolific bush pilot in northern Canada back in the 80s. He says "There's no situation so bad that you can't make it worse".
Sounds very similar in context to a comment about a certain person someone else said a handful of years ago :)
I’ve heard that saying to, in a multitude of wording variations
Your dad is a smart man. I also use a saying someone, at some point, pasted into my brother’s Ercoup many years ago…”DONT DO ANYTHING DUMB”.
prolific?
@@DrWhom Maybe not the right word? "He flew prolifically" is better? Idk. 8000 hours in the bush as chief pilot for a 24/7 air ambulance service to northern communities only accessible by air.
A bush pilot (from now-defunct TPA Airlines out of Prince Rupert) saved me and 4 other lives, virtually minutes as our sinking boat went down due to ice damage in the Observatory Inlet. Salute all of those intrepid heroes ... not yammering about 20 points why courage/character overcame weather and other issues that would have turned most back in the first place. Really impressed by another one hired to take me back for some modest recovery. Salute to all of that intrepid breed!
On 5 October, 1982, in a place called Gods Lake Narrows, Manitoba, Canada, I flew a Cessna 206 on floats into a set of four power transmission lines. It was 3 minutes before legal dark, I'd never landed there before, and the wires were not where my sectional chart indicated they'd be. The local Hydro guy had moved them because he didn't have enough cable to replace broken cable after a storm. Instead of around a small bay and not a factor for floatplanes, he strung them 90' above the water, across the mouth of the bay. He then neglected to do the required paperwork to change the chart, generate a NOTAM, etc. I survived ten years flying the bush in northern Canada by taking a good long look at any proposed alighting site. Because it was almost legal dark, I broke discipline and went straight in. The wires had big red balls on them when installed, but locals shot them off pretty quickly. I first saw the rusty brown wires about 2 seconds before impact. I thought "so this is how it ends". The prop cut one, the other three brought me to a stop like an arrested landing on a carrier, but ninety feet up. When the nose started dropping I mashed the throttle and pulled the stick back and held it. We belly flopped onto the water and the floats absorbed the impact energy. We were bobbing up and down on Gods Lake and I was unhurt. Got a bit drunk that night, but had to fly a Norseman in the morning. The NTSB found me not at fault, but any bush pilot will tell you I was. After that I examined every potential alighting spot until I knew every rock and tree stump. This video flashed me back. I'm posting so that younger pilots might learn from my experience.
I'm a protection engineer at a utility who investigates transmission outages. One of the worst I've had to deal with was an older couple in a small plane that ran into our lines. Always wondered how something like this could happen.
Yeah, seeing the video I thought damn, that probably took a while to fix. Not only is the area an active Investigation scene for a while, but then you'd have to replace a _lot_ of wire.
I accidentally drove through a wire fence once and was shocked at just how far from the impact point was actually damaged even though I only went about 3 feet into the fence. If that's what half a car does to wire, I hate to think what an entire plane with spinning props does.
They’re pretty invisible when you’re perpendicular to them and have ground clutter. Guys low over a river likely to not see the poles on the banks among trees, but even out in the desert the wires can be invisible at 100 mph. 500 agl should be your definition of low unless you’re landing.
Things happen. Not every day, but when you really don't see something, for any reason, you can get a nasty surprise. Think about that disaster when the air pressure systems were turned off, after maintenance, and it is on a checklist, but it was not seen. Off. Everybody passed out, before anybody realized there was no cabin pressure. Such accidents are rare, not seeing the cause is a problem.
My flight instructor told me when making an emergency landing at night is to turn on the landing lights. If you like what you see, leave them on. If you don't like what you see, turn them off.
You can do the same with your eyes, you don't need landing lights for that
I mean, I assume you do still have to watch the instruments.
@@Random_user_8472 not at night you can’t.
Right - The heck with Ballistic Chute -
I want Ballistic Rockets like Elon Musk's boosters landing.
Cheers
🤣 Brilliant!!
I love Kelsey's "Concentrating, flying" face that he makes while reviewing footage. It somehow inspires confidence and I want all of my pilots to have this face while flying ♥
Lol not a pilot on earth is holding that face for 5 hours stright 🤣
@@MrBizteck At least during the takeoff and landing--which is also when most of these clips take place.
But he alwwas says (mostly about movies) that making "flying faces" doesn't help you fly better.
I bet Kelsey does what all the other pilots do, set the autopilot and go to sleep..
But when his eyebrows go up, that's a sign someone is doing some shenanigans.
Your facial expressions are always hilarious when you see the "messing up" parts xD
I flew NOE in the military. You gotta do a lot of pre planning for lines and towers when prepping the route. Our maps had to constantly be updated because cell phone towers literally go up overnight.
Don't let the doubters and the haters influence you or your presentations. 99.99% of us enjoy and benefit from your videos as there are great lessons to learn from. Thanks for what you do and your dedication to flight safety.
0.01% of 1 million is 100. So 100 haters for million views 😂 I know you didn't mean it literally, im just saying
Got that right !
Pretty sure, and I certainly hope that he was joking about maybe one stupid comment he saw?! I don’t think most of us doubt him at all!
My instructor drilled into me the fact that a plane is *always* an aerodynamic vehicle, regardless of whether it is in the air or on the ground. The plane needs to be flown even when taxiing. I am always manipulating the ailerons, rudder and elevator while taxiing to keep the aircraft in the best aerodynamic configuration for the desired result (which is wings level and traveling along the taxiway).
Yes. My dad flew a big vertical fin taildragger, and.. .in strong winds taxiing, you can't turn against the wind... have to go 270o the other long way around. Weathervane effect from wind overrides rudder input. He also did 747s into Hong Kong etc and talked about the crazy approaches there, checkerboard hill and flying past tall apartments... and crosswinds normal..
I remember that on the first flights of the YF-23 the engineers were somewhat surprised to see that the plane's flight control computer (which of course they had designed themselves) was frantically making tiny adjustment to all these flight control surfaces as the plane was taxiing.
TRUE STORY: Many years ago I was out in my front yard cutting the grass when my buddy buzzed me in his Cessna 150. He had military experience flying low and slow and I live out in the sticks. My back was to him when he dove in on me and his altitude was pretty low - low enough to where he had to pull up a bit sharp to clear the trees on the other side of the road. He made a couple of passes, and then our budding Stuka pilot flew off to the airstrip to land. When he drove by later, I noticed that he looked a little green and I commented on his aerobatics. He said, "I pulled up to miss the tree - good thing because I didn't see the power lines!" Fortunately he spared me on that occasion having to answer questions from the state police and the FAA! I wouldn't say that it completely cured his spirit of daring-do, but it dulled it a bit!
The early astronauts, when coming back to Houston, used to fly low over there houses to notify their family...
I doubt it was that low, but they also didn't fly Cessna.
Edit i obviously mean their T-38 they travelled in, not the Space Shuttle....
There are old pilots and bold pilots but no old bold pilots.
@@matthewhall5571 sure there are
@@MayhemRv Maverick?
@@matthewhall5571 He's old and bold - but slightly less bold!
If you sustain an injury during a crash, please go to the ED as soon as possible. Closed head injuries can result from those kinds of forces, and don't always present with symptoms immediately. Please get checked out!
Or just take a teaspoon of CEMENT and HArdeN the PhUcK UPpPpp
You also can suffer internal injuries just as with a car. The father of my godmother died after a small plane crash. He survived the crash but did not get treatment on time. He had a ruptured spleen and bled out internally.
@@theexchipmunk I'm so very sorry that happened to your loved one.
Medical Ops Girl
@@TonyRule Roger that, sir. But I see that your sense of humor is still intact.
I don't care how many years I spend in the air, I will always be able to learn from Kelsey's videos. I for one appreciate the time this guy spends in bringing us life lessons, and who knows, maybe one of these lessons will save my life someday. Keep 'em coming Kelsey!
I know this is a year old but yes yes great respect for Kelsey, that's why we're here. That said, you want to know about flyin' and wires get some ag pilots on this page.
The contrast between light planes and crop dusters is highlighted by power line interactions. Light planes crash, crop dusters have incredible power to weight ratios and cut through lines and keep flying.
My dad said they had an unwritten rule, hit lines once go back and hit them again.
Reason was if damage was under $1000 pilot pays.
Over $1000 damage submitted to insurance and pilot pays $500 deductible.
A couple of old saws related to the first segment. First is, "Flying speed is defined as slightly faster than falling speed," and anyone who takes off under what looked to be decent conditions with the stall horn blaring needs to remember that. Second is another way of putting Kelsey's point about never giving up: "If you're going to crash, fly the plane as far into the crash as possible." Keep flying it until you're either so slow or have shed so many parts that you no longer have any control over the thing, because if you keep it under control, it'll let you "crack up easy" compared to just throwing up your hands and letting Isaac Newton take the yoke...
The slightly faster gag made me giggle, I'm definitely using that.
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I’m eating catfish.
I always thought it was "fly it until it stops moving".
Yes, first comes "Aviate". Keep the aerodynamic surfaces engaged as much as possible.
When things go south, and you're wondering how much farther the plane will fly, rest assured. It will make it all the way to the site of the crash.
Nice video Kelsey. My grandparents were in an accident in the 1980s where a US Air 737 on approach to Kansas City (if I remember correctly) was below the glide slope. Their plane hit and broke high tension power lines with the nose wheel. It damaged the landing gear and caused a landing without the nose gear after a go around.
The plane was evacuated on the ground due to the fire risk, however no one was harmed in the accident. My grandparents still fly nowadays but do prefer to drive for most trips…
Thank goodness they are ok.
So glad everyone was okay! I don't blame them for driving now! Hope they continue to have many happy, and most importantly _safe_ travels!
The pilot that had me intrigued, while driving in the country full of wheat fields was a crop duster. Along the highway was power lines. The plane flew the length of the field, under the power lines, then did a climb, the turn, and back cross the road, back under the power lines, and made the next pass down the field. I stopped and watched hem for a while. He was very aware of his width as he routed just enough to miss the power poles. I guess if a semi or other tall load passed by, he would have to alter his route. I finally continued past after he started another pass, so I would not be in his path. It was awesome to watch. I presume he had years of experience to be able to do that field. Most crop dusters fly parallel to the highway and power lines, but due to the length of the field, he flew the other way. This was in Oregon near the Idaho boarder.
ANOTHER TRUE STORY: I flew many helicopter missions in Iraq. I was an Engineer and we had to verify that the Baghdad Security Belt was operation. We could hear the pilots talk. Periodically we would hear "up" and the helicopter would jump up, then drop back down. After a couple of "ups" I asked what the "up" was for. I was told that up was to warn the pilot that we were approaching electrical wires.
Thank you for your service! !!!!!!!
Even with the wire cutters on a helicopter, it is still best to avoid them.
Low level stall is a critical part of flight training and is instilled in to your memory from early on, everything Kelsey is saying is exact as I have been told by my instructor, I recently have had to carry out an emergency go round due to mechanical wind shear and I didn’t reconfigure the configuration in time and NEARLY experienced a low level stall, spot on Kelsey!
My heart goes out to the young man in the power lines. So glad they where ok. I’ve seen a day we used too much runway stall horn screaming and wheels just barely coming off the pavement. Luckily we did establish a climb and made tiny little turns praying and giving thanks for every foot. I hope that didn’t end his passion cause I’m sure he’s very aware of density altitude, weight and balance, and how an aircraft turns for the rest of his life. Hope they had great insurance too.
You give your heart for nothing. The pilot was an idiot. Was tryna be cool on his takeoff. What a loser
Everyone is missing the obvious issue of his collar only being slightly popped. It will obviously disrupt the airflow in a way not intended for the aircraft resulting in the center of lift being changed. Full pop or no pop at all
Just like if the pipes don't see exposed butt crack: they'll know it's not a real plumber and there will be west side story finger snapping man...
Always love the epaulettes on a newbie… Ida been lol except for the stupid of a near stall climbout. Somehow the sudden stop was anticlimactic. Didn’t anybody tell this kid horizontal component of lift is subtracted from vertical?
@@russbell6418 It's vectorial subtraction! Moment arms of force. Every bit like the angle of rigging on a lifting wire rope, strap or chain. The shallower the angle - logarithmically, the force exerted on the chain SKYROCKETS. Exact same with angle of bank. I was in an America West 737-200 with the cigar motors taking off out of Vegas headed to San Francisco. Just after takeoff: no speed, no altitude yet and a steep bank right away. We got microburst wind shear and suddenly I'm reading the brand of sunglasses a guy in his SUV at the intersection under us was wearing. The pilot pulled us out of it somehow. A older flying witress bitch was marching toward the COCKpit. someone nervously asked "did we just..." She yelled "YES! YES we DID just almost all die!" and she could be heard threatening the life of the pilot. She told him to have security ready at San Francisco because she was going to cut his throat if she ever got to him. Then she came out and smiled and said your drinks will be coming through soon. ALL complimentary! I'm sure some of us could use one! MAN, she was awesome. She should RUN an airline. She made it sound like this was not a first with him.
I noticed it as well. I wouldn't feel safe with a neglected pilot like that, lmao.
Good advice from Kelsey. When flying B707s out of Kennedy NY for an Atlantic crossing, taking off from runway 31L (the longest runway) my airline had a problem with noise violations --as the runway pointed straight towards Manhattan. I had a chat with a Pan Am Skipper and he told me to begin my left turn IMMEDIATELY after getting airborne. This was only a 10 degree bank and I increased it gradually until passing 400 ft to 30 degrees. It worked like a charm on 707s, DC 10s, and 747s. I used the same technique for landing large airliners in strong crosswinds, as Kelsey has suggested. i.e. approach in a crab--when crossing the threshold put aileron into wind and straighten out with opposite rudder. DON'T HOLD OFF--put her down positively and keep that aileron input on, using rudder to keep her straight. The speed brakes will deploy on wheel spin up and , once she slows, control is easy. I once landed at Istanbul with a 50 knot wind in a 747 with 20 degrees crosswind on an icy runway. This time landing was easy but taxiing was difficult because of "weathercocking" effect from that huge rudder. The 747 was a great aircraft for crosswinds--I landed one at Heathrow, London in a 40 knot crosswind, when some other types were diverting to other airfields. Keep up the good work , Kelsey. I wish that I could have flown with you! I KNOW that you are a real pilot!---Johnny.
@@LauRoot892 he is a legendary pilot from Pakistan International Airlines. He is yet to tell a story about his flight as a captain where snakes entered the cabin from cargo area.
@@LauRoot892 born in London, Irish/English mother, Indian/ Pakistani doctor father, lived in Pakistan from 1957.
@@momactavish Ha ha, that story and many others were told in my two books ," Come Fly with Me---Propellers" and Come Fly with Me---Jets."
4:40 was just thinking, I think that could work for driving a car as well. The tensing up being an alert! Thank you, Kelsey.
Thanks for that hand out the window analogy. That is the best practical analogy that I can relate to that helps me understand the “why” of how lift and stalls occur
This was a very interesting video for me because they are speaking Afrikaans which is my mother tongue.
I'll translate for you.
The guy asks : Is everyone ok ?
To which the lady answers : Yes, so hopefully everyone survived.
He then asks : What happend
She answerd : She doesn't know.
And then a few words not meant for younger viewers.
Genade .... lyk of Boetie vir mamma vir 'n flip geneem het 🤣
Weet julle dalk waar en wanneer dit gebeur het?
I looked for the original video, but couldn't find it on RUclips. The people were speaking Afrikaans, so it was probably in South Africa, but it could have been Australia as or any country with South Africans living in it.
@@WayneKitching Wayne dit het 17 Julie gebeur in Stanford naby Hermanus
The "not meant for younger viewers" part I actually understood, despite not speaking Afrikaans.
I really appreciate how you stay humble and admit similar mistakes when breaking down what went wrong. It's easy to point fingers and focus on making the other person look bad
I do so enjoy this man’s videos. Although I’ve no personal interest in aviation, my youngest son (age 10) is very interested and has expressed an interest in flying. With that said, do you notice, like I, the intense manner in which this pilot scrutinizes videos. The look on his face indicates to me, he is utterly absorbing every ounce of content. I feel, for so many reasons, that one could not ask for a more talented pilot to man the controls. He is very modest regarding his skill level. On a graduated scale of 1 through 10, there is no question, this pilot is a 10. My hope is that some day, my son can meet this amazingly talented and schooled pilot. He is undoubtedly, one in a million in skill and in regard to his personality, top notch!
You gotta have skills to be selected to fly the Dreamliner!
@@JCrook1028 Dreamlifter...
@@TonyRule lol oops
@RJFisher Totally agree. I know I couldn't do it myself, but have so much respect for someone like Kelsey sharing his love of the craft with us.
hey man, usually don't make comments, but really appreciate the fact that you literally blasted into the video this time, not even an intro. I like the intro, but it's just funny cause this time I wanted to see how far into the video I could watch and see what the title was about before leaving for work real quick and you happened to jump in quicker than usual. Thanks for making good vids!! been learning a lot
I'm taking an aviation fundamentals class at my high school, and I recently learned how to recover from low altitude power-on stalls, which is a way that things like this can be avoided in the event what you are trying to avoid is ahead of you. But in this situation it could not be avoided because they were turning straight into the obstacle and would not have had time to recover.
I initially started watching this channel because I liked aviation and aircraft, and I didn't really have much knowledge of the mechanics of flight. But now that I've been studying this stuff and actually learning to fly its so much more interesting to watch because I notice lots of little things I wouldn't have thought about before
I'm litterly watching this while I taxi off runway!! one more flight to go. I'm not a good flyer so I always watch 74 gear when I travel😆 😂
Nice. I wish I could fly
Please tell me you weren't the PIC?!?
Nearly lost my dad in the 70s when he hit HT powerlines 22kv I think at least. In the UK while spraying in a helicopter. He, like these people, was exceptionally lucky that day.
So these people lived? Wow, a testament to the Cessna engineers.
@@raylopez99
That has nothing to do with it. Electricity kills either by shorting to ground through your body, or by having discharges so powerful they cause explosions. Electricity can be compared to water in that sense: If the water doesn't run onto you, you won't get wet.
As long as that plane is off the ground and it doesn't hit anything other that's non-charged, the powerlines won't short to ground through the plane and the people inside it should be fine electrically speaking.
Which is why if you work high-power circuits, you sit on a rubber mat. It insulates your body from the surrounding area and prevents you from being a conduit to short to ground. So even if you screw up and it's accidentally live or it's meant to be live but you make a wrong connection, the power won't actually course through your body and kill you.
@@nvelsen1975 It’s also why animals that climb on live powerlines, birds, monkeys etc, don’t get electrocuted. (Though monkeys do get electrocuted often because they have limbs, hang and swing from them, and will create that path to ground whilst being on the wire, but otherwise many will sit on them without any harm and have likely learnt to not touch certain things whilst they’re on it).
Also why it’s cool seeing those working on powerlines hanging from a helicopter to do their work!
@@nvelsen1975 I took it to mean the fact that they collided with wires while flying, bringing the aircraft down hard. Not the electricity. The engineering of the 172 definitely was a factor. But luck was a bigger one.
@@OfficialSamuelC I watched two ravens get fried one time. They were either fighting or it was mating season and they simultaneously touched different wires and each other. Boom dead birds and power out on the corner.
Having spent most of my flying years as an ag pilot power lines were a daily hazard. A bigger hazard was flying in the environment while fatigued. That is when while working under multiple power lines I made a mistake and pulled up into a major distribution line. Strong aircraft and dumb pilot survived to fly again.
Glad you made it!
My dad used to fly under on every pass in the field with his Pawnee, if there was a pole in the way he'd kick rudder into it so the wing would swing back and miss it. I grew up watching it, I spent my first year flying under them in a cat, then I caught a support wire for a damaged pole that I didn't see until it was too late to go over the wires. I haven't flown under wires since that season, these bigger air tractors fit but just barely, your safety margin isn't there like it is with a pawnee or cat or 188, so I just don't. I don't mind doing a few trim passes, or even a bunch of them with bigger cross country lines, and all the people driving by hoping to see me fly under them will just have to be disappointed 👎
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper Sound judgement.
@@uptown3636 I guess it's more about how comfortable you are with it. In some cases, flying under is probably less risk than going over when you're talking about really tall wires, as you're not having to do the mental math on how soon you need to be pulling up out of the field in order to clear them, you just fly under and do your turn after...but even if it's technically a little safer to do it that way, it's probably a lot more dangerous in practice if you're averse to the idea of it. I still fly alongside wires to see if I can safely go under them, knowing that I won't, just so I'll have a backup to consider if things aren't looking good for whatever reason. It's not often we get to have options or a plan b, so it's nice when there's one available.
So did your razor wire cut the lines to save the plane, or? Always wondered if those razor cutters on AG planes ever got used? I hired a AG pilot to help me frame my house, he had some unbelievable stories flying under power lines.
Aircraft hitting wire: The obvious thing to do would be level-off momentarily (when the stall horn sounds) right after lift off and establish a solid climb-out without the horn blaring. The horn is there for a reason and you need to do something to make it go away (it stops automatically when the pilot corrects the situation) not continue to fly with it blaring. In choppers when the low-rotor rpm warning goes off you only have a couple seconds to respond before you die. In the index accident the horn blared for a while without corrective action. In fact, the only actions, a steep bank, made the problem worse. The lesson: never fly with an inexperienced pilot in a 172 who feels the need to wear captains bars (props are never relevant to a safe flight).
You're a real pilot bro!!! Don't listen to the haters, I've watched you and looked up everything you said and it turns out your legit so now that I'm your favorite fan teach me to fly and keep on keeping on!!!
I remember when my son was little and a 320 flew over our heads getting ready to land..."Mommy, why is that plane flying sideways?" "It's crabbing." "How can they catch crabs in the sky? I thought they were in the ocean..." This is when I knew he would grow up to do great things! 🤣 Have a great week everyone!
You should’ve double down and purchased some crabs on the way home instead of the pilot delivered them or something LOL
So we're not hanging out for his debut on deadliest catch, I assume.
Plot twist:
“No, Kelsey … ** I ** am your father.”
Ask your boy how to play moth ball lol
@@bsgtrekfan88 Is it doubling down? (Or hedging? 😉)
I loved your explanation of the need for counterintuitive inputs. Essentially you're telling the plane to go away from the wind with your feet, so it follows the runway, but toward the wind with your arms to keep the wings off the pavement. It would feel like the opposite of a coordinated turn.
Upvote for your name 😁
#74 Gear Kelsi, on the first crash in a cessna 172/175 (I fly those), you were saying that he was turning.. Look at the yoke. He has maximum right aileron input. Something stalled the left wing. He was fighting to keep the aircraft level.
Almost perfectly set up for a snap roll. . . .
Yes. And that's the wrong input to fix a stalled wing. The guy would've crashed even if the power lines didn't get him.
The problem is the person filming took the camera off the front in the few seconds before you see that max input. I agree with you about the stall. However, the pilot might have started a left turn and quickly tried to stop the turn rate. I am wondering what the density altitude was at the time. I remember once taking off from a small airport in Colorado. I was in my Cessna 182 and my aircraft had a difficult time climbing. There were 2 adults and 3 suitcases onboard. That day was one of the days I was glad I bought the TRUE 4-seater. Had I been in a 172 I would most likely not be alive now.
Wrong. it's called over banking tendency, and requires opposite aileron input to maintain the bank angle. if he stalled the wing and used opposite aileron he would have spun, not maintained a constant bank.
Hard to tell from the video but it looks like he was drifting left even before he left the ground. He had at least 3 persons on board so he was probably heavy. He never had enough airspeed to rotate and was stalling as he left the ground. I guess he rotated early because he was running out of runway but had he pushed the nose down in ground effect I think he could have made it. Also it seems like he released the brakes too early for what was a short and soft field takeoff. Was the right seater his instructor? I hope not.
I love your positive attitude in all your vids! It’s definitely noticeable to the viewers..keep up the great work!!
Years ago, I had a Bellanca Scout, used it mostly for towing gliders - I'm also a CFIG. Fellow pilot flew it over to the county fairgrounds - we had a Blanik L-13 on display there, he was going to bring it back to the little airport we flew out of.
He hit the high-voltage power lines going in. The Scout flipped, landing upside down and burst into flames. He escaped most of the flames, and broke a few bones. My Scout was totaled.
Really appreciate and enjoy your videos, but my VA pension does not pay enuf to join up.
I really enjoy the analogies you use when explaining stuff. I even started using them myself when talking with non-avgeek friends and family
Stall and a slight wing drop, corrected with aileron (no no when lower then Vsse) and definately a lack of rudder. Causes wing to drop more and would have spun if he was higher. I don't think the bank was intentional and was the beginning of a spin, which just happened to be caught by power lines. Actually lucky to catch wires IMHO.
Wrong. it's called over banking tendency, and requires opposite aileron input to maintain the bank angle. if he stalled the wing and used opposite aileron he would have spun, not maintained a constant bank.
I thought the power lines may have actually been fortuitous as well. Also the fact that the trees/bushes weren’t big enough to cause a head on collision, but we’re still large & voluminous enough to provide a little cushion.
@@SoloRenegade ... Well, the pilot DID apply FULL OPPOSITE aileron. It didn't work. That plane was in the brink of the stall and the pilot didn't have enough aileron authority, evidently. Possibly because he was at full power and very slow speed without applying enough right-rudder correction.
I agree with every word you typed!
@@adb012 or he was countering some turbulence. Sometimes turbulence can cause a wing to drop aggressively and need lots of counter aileron.
Yes, the wing was on the edge of stalling for sure. Hard to say about his rudder work given we can't see it.
Love that you explain these things. Thought about you yesterday as my house is not far from the end of a runway on a tiny airport in Costa Rica. Someone was practicing take offs and landings yesterday afternoon as we sunbathed.
I always hated steep turns (because I sucked and kept blowing that stall horn).
Anyone can point & shoot and 'fly' a plane. Being a **pilot** is all about never giving up and finding a solution.
Keep your blue up and your brown down
One of the best landings I ever experienced was when I was a passenger on an Allegheny Airlines DC-9 landing in Erie PA in January 1979 and looking out my window only to see the runway center line and about the same time one of the pilots said over the PA system not to be alarmed if it appears the plane is not configured “normally” that we can relax as the winds coming off the Lake (Lake Erie) will straighten us out mere seconds before touchdown. It was a landing smooth as glass, unbelievable.
pilots were stick and rudder flyers then, not computer operators
Kelseyville,
Today is such a monumental day in American and Aviation history. As a tradition I listen to the NORAD and ATC recordings. Thank you to you and all pilots and Flight Attendants for your bravery!.Never forget! One Love
I enjoyed this video, although the first part where the pilot flies into the powerlines was actually pretty scary until finding out that everyone was alright.
It's hard to believe that anyone would not believe that you are a real pilot Kelsey, with all of the interesting knowledge that you share, which could pretty much only come from experience.
You can't please everyone I guess, but I always find your videos fun and interesting, I guess some people might just need to give you a chance👍🙂
I didn't know that anyone questioned if you were a real pilot or not. After watching this video, I can say with absolute certainty that YOU ARE NOT A COMMERCIAL PILOT- you might have been a student working on your Private Pilot License, but YOU HAVE NEVER FLOWN A 747 as you state, and you are a LIAR. If you're not lying, you're too stupid to fly a plane commercially. I'm being rough on you because you could cost lives.
I haven't been a fixed-wing pilot in 30 years. I've messed around with rotary wing stuff, but that's so that I understood it better.
Your hand outside the window is a joke! That hand isn't self-powered like a light aircraft. YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG ON WHAT IT DOES, ALSO!!! You put your hand out of a moving vehicle, and it will rise much more as the angle of attack increases. Your hand doesn't stall because it isn't self-powered by a small engine like the Cessna in the video. I don't think I even want to tell you more since you are a fraud. I could explain the video frame by frame, but you, in your cheap Halloween outfit, have no idea.
I'm going to get youtube to pull your account. I can easily show that you are promoting dangerous ideas. In your next video, take off the costume and admit that you are a fraud. Otherwise, I will make it my life's goal to get you shamed or arrested. My family owns a number of FBOs, and I will get to the bottom of you either way.
HAD YOU RATHER COME CLEAN ON YOUR OWN, OR ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE ME DO IT? "When you used to fly 747..." You can't even explain a stall in a light aircraft!!!
Apparently, people question whether this guy is a real pilot or not. I can say with absolute certainty that HE IS NOT A COMMERCIAL PILOT- he might have been a student working on his Private Pilot License, but he has NEVER FLOWN A 747, as stated, and he is a LIAR.
By making these videos "for pilots and those interested in flying," he is making the skies more dangerous. RUclips has an obligation to take down his content if he contends that he's a real pilot. People will get killed. Just look at the quality of his uniform if you doubt me. That's a Halloween costume. He wasn't issued that by any airline.
Thanks-
Nick
Your insight and information on aircraft and issues that can occur. are tremendous.. No other pilot goes to all the trouble to inform and make every video a learning experience. One day a Cessna, the next a 747 no airplane too small or too big.. Thanks for doing this.
Found your videos yesterday and have watched them nonstop, great content.
Great analysis; as a CFI specializing in mostly high wing, tail wheel instruction, cross wing landing experience helps instill solid corrections to consistently touchdown straight on the centerline! Numerous aviations used to encourage tail wheel training. Great job!
Hi Kelsey, greetings from Argentina.
In min. 7:09 it seems to be a part of a footage taken by an argentinian Y. Tuber called "Sir Chandler" in occation when the Buenos Aires airport "Jorge Newbery" was re-opened after a huge upgrade. Longer and wider runway and ILS system, new taxi ways and major constructions on the airport it self.
I saw that footage from his channel and obseved the same abnormal take-off of this Citation and I wrote "maybe she was hitten by a down-draft from a previous take-off" since there was a lot of them. If you look at the begginning of the take-off, you maight notice the start roll is not as usual; maybe the pilot(s) ware waiting for take-off clearence from the tower.
Sorry about my english spelling since it is not my main lenguage.
As always, cheers from NE Patagonia, (a dream place).
Pequeño detalle Walter: Es un Learjet, no un Citation.
@@adb012 Ok, error mío. Gracias por la corrección. Me desorientó el tamaño de las bocas de las turbinas. Saludos desde la Patagonia.
@@walterweigert9840 ... Saludos desde Texas (pero argento!)
I'm waiting to see your reaction to the small plane near miss with the Delta Boeing 757.
I'm also watching for blancolirio to cover that one. my question is, was it really as close as the breathless news reporting made it sound?
Thanks Kelsey I got another clue as to what happened in my brothers crash. They probably on takeoff when they turned, which we know it was at the wrong place, their wings might have been too close to the ground to get enough lift. Just my guess but it makes sense thank you❤️
It may seem counterintuitive, but being very close to the ground [say, a few feet, with something like a small Cessna in the first clip] will make the wings produce _more_ lift than being higher above the ground with all other things equal. This is called "ground effect", if you'd like to learn more.
The trouble with this is that, while a plane a bit beyond its performance capabilities may be able to lift itself a few feet off the runway without much trouble, it will have a harder time producing as much lift climbing to a few hundred feet above the runway without additional power or airspeed.
Kelsey; Don't pay the trolls any mind. They're mentally challenged so you have to keep that in mind. Any rumor or conspiracy is better than real-life to them.
I enjoy all of your videos even though I'm not involved with aviation at all. Keep doing what you're doing.
As a service-technician I used to fly a lot. I experienced a severe crab-landing in the Azores once and complimented the Portugese pilot when leaving the plane. He had a big smile on his face when he heard my compliment as he appreciated someone realizing his talent and a job well done.
Discovered this channel recently and watched a lot. As a lay person, I really appreciate the honest confessions of mistakes or near mistakes by Kelsey and his neutral and qualified observations about flying as physics and learning from events.
Thanks Kelsey! I enjoyed hearing of the 2 reasons why the windward wing in a crab landing might lift. Makes sense.
So so close to 1M Kelsey! For me though I don’t fly alone. Despite gaining my PPL. I’m still not sure I’m confident enough to fly without my former instructor and I’ll tell you, my solo hours were scary as heck!
Yeah it's like driving. You learn more as you go. Usually long after you've taken the "test"
OMG. This happened to me on a solo flight as a student. I was wary of the winds before I got into the plane so I asked a flight instructor for an opinion. He said it was a great day to fly, so off I went. As soon as I rotated, I felt that it was a mistake since a the crosswinds were pretty strong and gusty. I flew out to a practice area and just circled while I calmed myself. I wasn’t looking forward to the approach and landing though I was okay with crosswinds in training. But the winds now got even gustier. Eventually, I decided it was now or never so I made my approach. It was great and all my training paid off. However, I stopped flying the plane because I was so proud of myself. Of course, aviation has a way of humbling a pilot. My right wing lifted and my right main gear came off the runway unexpectedly (172R). I immediately put aileron correction and got straightened out. LESSON LEARNED. Thanks Kelsey. You da best!
I really like the humble way that you explain things, you admit that you've also done mistakes and have needed to learn a lot of things by experience.
I like watching your videos and relating experience issues like this one on high crosswind landings. Your method of using rudder to line up the centerline makes a lot of sense at the compromise of drifting in the direction of the wind. Bottom line, when you're at the controls of a big aircraft like this with a considerable crosswind you have to have the senses and reflexes of a cat.......By the way your style of storytelling has had me laughing my derriere off several times. Thanks again for the videos and keep them coming!
What a nice surprise to hear Afrikaans in the 1st part of the video. Thought I was on a wrong channel 🤣🤣🤣. We had quite a few incidents in the past week. A plane from the South African Police Force fell just after take off and 2 planes caught fire at OR Tambo International Airport.
Ek het gedink ek hoor Afrikaans aan die begin van die video!
For the second video, my guess is that the pilot leaned forward to retract the landing gear lever. As he did that he pushed slightly on the controls. You can see that the gear retracts as the plane loses a little altitude.
It looked like the Lear took off with no flaps.
@@toddsmith8608: Yes, it seems like the flaps weren't set right; I was surprised it got off the ground quickly, and then dipped a little. I also thought it happened as the gears started to retract.
@@oahuhawaii2141 I think it dipped as it climbed out of ground effect.
@@toddsmith8608: Sounds plausible. That dip could've been avoided if he had his flaps down to overcome it.
Could this be an incorrect or unusual trim setting [combined with the pilot relaxing back pressure while retracting the landing gear, for instance]?
Hi Kelsey, great video as always. With regards to the first clip, the aircraft involved is a Cessna 175. This accident happened on the 17th of July this year, near a town called Hermanus here in South Africa. Investigation is still in progress, but early indications point to high density altitude and being overweight as the culprits. The pilot was also not very experienced. I worked as an aircraft broker for a company a few years ago, and actually handled the sale of this aircraft to the current owner (not the pilot who was flying though).
The inexperienced pilot wearing epaulets he hadn't earned, as proof from this crash.
Hi Kelsey, I'm a 69;yr "young" senior,,, Thoroughly enjoy your videos,Also the time it takes from your life to post the great videos you post, Then still go forward with a career as well as enjoy your "self" time,,as we all deserve and need. Please don't waste your important time in your life by responding to ,"so called human life form". Imagine how very ignorant,sad, dissatisfied, with there own life they must be to place such horrible remarks of you,,! Those people only occupy and take oxygen from the planet that was meant for humans with a desire for life, not negative unhealthy remarks against others on earth that give an Aura of good , ,God Speed Sir,,. Thank You for what You offer ,,the good Souls of our Planet.
Look at you almost at 1M. Good job mate! Have to fly and love/hate it. Your content gives me more comfort.
Hey Kelsey! Thanks for your hard work! Haven't seen a bunch of your videos for the last six months so last week I've ended up watching the new and re-watching a lot of the old ones. Your content has such a great positive energy, that's amazing!!
Besides that also wanted to ask: why no "viral debrief - coming up" intro with that upbeat music this time?
Cheers from a long-time viewer!
UPD: oh, wait, I might have already guessed, why.
One of the best, most technical videos you've given us, Kelsey. Good job, loved it!
First bit, it isn't that it generates less lift, but rather that the vector of the lift isn't directly down, so it can't offset gravity as well, thus you kind of slide down the slope. On the second video, I actually had exactly that happen on one of my take offs the other day (currently working on my PPL). What happened in my case was that the 172 I was in had a lighter nose than I was used to and my rotation ended up giving me too high of an angle of attack and started losing air speed rapidly, so I ended up overcompensating a bit on the correction to get my airspeed up to Vy and momentarily lost positive rate of climb and then recovered it almost exactly like the second video. Sure I was in a 172 and not a private jet, but seems to me like it's probably a similar situation given the timing.
You are a phenomenal instructor Kelsey. Thanks so much!❤
With regards to airplane crashes a good rule of thumb is that if you can tell it was/is a plane after the crash, it wasn’t a bad crash. They’re fortunate on so many levels here.
Talking about soft landing with strong wind, one day I was flying to Amsterdam and it was very windy, the plane was tilting left and right, I rember the crew walking as if they were drunk... So I was expecting a very hard landing... But the pilot landed the plane as if it was just a normal beautiful day, the landing was as smooth as baby skin 😅. Very impressed by his skills...
yes, some pilots just let the winds buffet the plane on approach and then they finesse it once over the runway
How does that even happen?! And more importantly.... WHY?! Would they let that happen?!
The example in the video is very exaggerated because there were mistakes all over. But from my little experience doing engine-out simulation, you can very easily miss them. Thank god the instructor was there
Over weight. Out of balance. Too slow. Tailwind. Incorrect wind correction. Improper technique.
As to why they let that happen. Look up continuation bias.
@@kounelas3243 apparently we have an aviation engineer in the comments with a lot of experience on flights
smh
Well, Kelsey, as a CFI, I think you missed the elephant in the room in the first video. In the first video, the pilot obviously got into a classic takeoff power-on stall developing into a spin. And he exacerbated the problem by right yoke input, creating adverse yaw to the left. It appears there were four persons in the airplane, so I guess the plane could also be overweight or out of balance, contributing to the stall/spin. Cutting through the power line is just a result of the stall/spin. The pilot should have lowered the nose and got into ground effect as soon as he heard the stall horn.
Another lesson to learn from this accident is that the pilot appears to have the "look at me" macho attitude that needed to be addressed. His two shoulder stripes are a sign. LOL. So, the moral of the story is that never fly with someone with two stripes. These are the private pilots who wanted to show off the fact they are certified to fly, but really lack the skills of a commercial pilot.
@Michael Jackson The Guilty Child Molester Exactly! The pilot kept pulling back on the yoke thinking that would somehow pull the plane up. This pilot needs some serious additional training if he wanted to fly again.
I think you probably are a really good pilot. I haven't seen you at work of course but I think I can tell from your videos you have the right attitude and skills to be a good pilot. Thanks Kelsey for your videos.
Not sure if you've seen his latest videos, but he's a captain now! So yes, he is a really good pilot
@@electricheartpony I noticed. I'm happy for him.
Regarding the second video: Those types of takeoffs are a common thing in Aeroparque Jorge Newbery (and in Argentina in general). Local Learjet pilots seem to pride themselves in doing that, and for us plane-spotters it's a delight. There are a few videos of different Learjets doing these type of "Low pass takeoffs" on RUclips.
In the immortal words of Jeremy Clarkson... "That's not gone as well as I'd hoped"
POWER!!!!
As an avid sim flyer I'm wondering if the Argentinean plane dropped due to retracting the landing gear as early as he did. I seem to remember hearing and working out on the sim that it will cause a loss of altitude due to the changing aerodynamics.
Must be in SA I hear Afrikaans? Someone said O Fok. Now that needs no translation.
My instructor told me some advice that took me a while to appreciate: he said if you’re going to crash into something then do it as low and as slow as possible, e.g. if you’re going to hit a power line do it with the top of your wing rather than your U/C - less distance to fall and who knows you might even get away with it.
Safety is a good rule of thumb regardless of what you're doing. Good content Mr. Kelsey. Enjoy your travels and stay safe!
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The 747 kinda looked like it was hovering down lmao
I remember one time, seeing a Piper Cub landing in a particularly heavy wind and turning final at midfield, because he knew he'd actually be moving *backwards* at touchdown...
@@rdfox76 dang
Yay, more fun pilot issues! What I don't get, as soon as he rotated, stall warning sounds but he continues to pull up? Does this guy have absolutely no basic training whatsoever?
And banks hard AF
The tight turn is what got me
Things you learn playing 20 hours of Flight Simulator.
@@MattyEngland I don't think he "banked." You can't see the yoke input, at the beginning, but when the camera pans over, it's full right. I'm thinking the left wing stalled. That's where the warning horn is well.
@@donaldglaser7686 Ah right 👍👍 Makes far more sense. Cheers for the explanation.
I like how he's wearing a complete pilot outfit.
I love how it looks like he bought the cheapest shirt at a second hand shop and glued some stripes to it :p
Well at least the top part, who knows what's going on out of frame.
Hey Kelsey, just want to say that I strongly believe you are a 747 pilot! Mate your facial expressions are totally priceless when you are watching the videos that people supply for your feed back.. keep up the great videos mate they are awesome! The one video you did that I always remember was the money coming out of your nav computer and the crew staff member thinking it was a company allowance 😆😆😆. Great channel.
The first part about power lines. That's how I lost my Uncle (Dad's older brother). My Father was ex-Air Force pilot and became a commercial airline pilot for Eastern. My Uncle had is private pilot's license and belonged to the EAA. He also had a dealership for ultralights and Bensen Gyrocopters. He would perform at air shows. He was from Illinois and went to to California.
My Dad had told him to never fly under powerlines and to be aware of where they were. My uncle tried to land under powerline which ended up under the top rotor and above his head. The result was not good. My Uncle was killed instantly. Not sure if it was the rotor or the powerline that decapitated him. To make things worse, my Aunt was watching.
That was June 16, 1986.
Thanks for the video analysis Kelsi. Wanted to ask you, what do you think about the side stick controls in an Airbus? Can they be a liability in stressful situations where communication between pilots can be stretched to the limit and/or break down, as one side's input is not directly transferred to the other and vice versa.
Read AF447.
@@Mixer-he2wb Yes. This is one of the reasons I am asking. But this is not the only tragic accident where the side sticks have played a crucial role. An Airbus 320 from Yerevan to Sochi also crushed into the sea in a similar way. And I'm sure there's more incidents that have escaped publicity.
I want to add something to the first scene: It looks like the bank is uncommanded because the plane was stalling and dropping a wing. You can see he has aileron right for nearly the entire duration, which is terrible stall recovery (aileron during a wingover stall will only make it worse, use rudder instead)
Kelsey. you are the best. I always enjoy and learn from these videos. I'm a low-hour private pilot with only a single engine land license and no other ratings. I was licensed in the early 70's and stopped piloting anything in the early 80's for a number of different reasons. Flight training has changed since then, but I'm guessing an airplane still flies the same, just with more systems. The laws of physics haven't changed. When I was training, I was taught to get the wings level and lower the nose enough to regain lift when approaching a stall. I'd like to see a lesson about how, when, and why a pilot gets the airplane into a full stall, especially when close to the ground or an obstacle.
Kelsey, this channel is so mesmerisingly interesting! Keep it up!
In 1986 here in Pomona, California a small plane hit electrical transmission lines and got "hung up" in them. The plane never fell to the ground and was lowered to the ground after Edison turned off the power, It took quite awhile and the pilot was able to walk away. the plane only touched one phase so there was no shorting that took place. Basically, it was no different than a bird landing on a power line.This may sound like I made it up, but it's 100% true.
THANK YOU!!! This is one of those life-saving pieces of advice that GA pilots desperately need! We've lost waaaaay too many of us this year on spin-stalls after takeoff. Imma share this with the Smokehouse Pilots Group and my flight school.
I didn't know that anyone questioned if you were a real pilot or not. After watching this video, I can say with absolute certainty that YOU ARE NOT A COMMERCIAL PILOT- you might have been a student working on your Private Pilot License, but YOU HAVE NEVER FLOWN A 747 as you state, and you are a LIAR. If you're not lying, you're too stupid to fly a plane commercially. I'm being rough on you because you could cost lives.
I haven't been a fixed-wing pilot in 30 years. I've messed around with rotary wing stuff, but that's so that I understood it better.
Your hand outside the window is a joke! That hand isn't self-powered like a light aircraft. YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG ON WHAT IT DOES, ALSO!!! You put your hand out of a moving vehicle, and it will rise much more as the angle of attack increases. Your hand doesn't stall because it isn't self-powered by a small engine like the Cessna in the video. I don't think I even want to tell you more since you are a fraud. I could explain the video frame by frame, but you, in your cheap Halloween outfit, have no idea.
I'm going to get youtube to pull your account. I can easily show that you are promoting dangerous ideas. In your next video, take off the costume and admit that you are a fraud. Otherwise, I will make it my life's goal to get you shamed or arrested. My family owns a number of FBOs, and I will get to the bottom of you either way.
HAD YOU RATHER COME CLEAN ON YOUR OWN, OR ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE ME DO IT? "When you used to fly 747..." You can't even explain a stall in a light aircraft!!!
Apparently, people question whether this guy is a real pilot or not. I can say with absolute certainty that HE IS NOT A COMMERCIAL PILOT- he might have been a student working on his Private Pilot License, but he has NEVER FLOWN A 747, as stated, and he is a LIAR.
By making these videos "for pilots and those interested in flying," he is making the skies more dangerous. RUclips has an obligation to take down his content if he contends that he's a real pilot. People will get killed. Just look at the quality of his uniform if you doubt me. That's a Halloween costume. He wasn't issued that by any airline.
Thanks-
Nick
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@@LauRoot892 533 comments and your dad still hasn’t come back.
Maybe just messing around and having fun… There should be, or possibly are, memorial plaques marking the spot where the fun ended.
Everyone of them should start to read with those exact same words.
Kelsey, lately I’ve been observing your pic in pic on these videos.
You have a great sense of humour and many probably think just like you say about questioning you being a real pilot.
Watching you as the clips are rolling, you are 100% down to business! The intensity of concentration displayed in your eyes sir without any doubt, shows that yes Kelsey, you are definitely one…
DAMN FINE PILOT! ✈️
Cheers!🍺🇨🇦
Some of the best, shortest, most uneventful flights I've ever been on have been small regional jets out of small regional airports. I flew from Kalispell Mt to Las Vegas to pick up a connector to BNA at Nashville years ago on a regional. The pilot flew that thing like a spoiled rich kid who'd just gotten his driver's license and daddy's money bought him a brand new sports car that had way more hp than he oughta be trying to drive with no more experience driving than he had. We were airborne and turning out at almost the same time, you couldn't have leaned forward in the seat if you'd wanted to in that climb. That dude was awesome. He absolutely took advantage of the fact that it was a small airport with very little other ground/air traffic. He wasn't letting any grass grow under his feet. When you've flown a bunch in your life, and set around for hours in myriad completely unavoidable, man made delays, those regionals are a breath of fresh air once in a while. Still my favorite jets to fly on. Dunno who that guy was, never met him, but he made a good impression. He was perfectly professional, both on the pa and flying the plane, just getting it done while he could. Sure can respect that. Hope he's on to whatever he wanted to be by now, could be retired by now I guess.
Good video; I'm not a pilot but I did train as an A&P tech when I was younger. Considering an aircraft is in a controlled fall at a speed between 150-200 mph I can't fault a windy landing even if its' ugly. I know a couple pilots and they both have said "Any landing you can walk away from is a good one." Be safe.
Hi Kelsey!
The second short is indeed in Argentina. The airport is Aeroparque Jorge Newbery (SABE), the only airport inside Buenos Aires City (Ezeiza/SAEZ and San Fernando/SADF are the other two international airports, but those are in the suburbs) and that is a take off in RWY 13, that's a 6890 ft. TORA runway. no obstacles near it, so plenty of room for this guy to take off at VY.
If you fancy eating some asado and a flight around the city, next time you are here let me know ;)
A few words on plane structure. While working at remote lodge in Alaska, we would have tourists fly in and out and we would man a radio to tell the pilots the weather at the lake for them to have an idea on if they can land. One foggy morning we tell the pilots coming in that the fog is clear on the lake and looks to be about 120 ft ceiling. A couple pilots found a hole from above to come down through the fog and land on the lake and others turned back and went back to base. A pilot flying a De Havillend Beaver thought he found the same clear pocket, wasn't above water as he came down, once under the fog made a steep pitched turn and the right wing clipped the bog on the lake and the plane starfished landing nose down in the bog, tail pointed up to the sky. Luckily the bog held the weight and the plane stayed on the bog. The wings were thrashed and the body had some dents, but all 8 passengers and the pilot walked away. One good cut behind some ones ear from the headphones but no major injuries. They do engineer these things to take a beating.
A distance relative of mine "borrowed" a plane to prove that he could fly in WWII. Flew into powerlines and his injuries were severe enough to keep him out of the service. His plane was literally hanging high above in the wires like a spider that trapped its prey into the web.
I used to paraglide, and a lot of pilots had fears about power lines. best way to cross them if you are low is to cross at the pylon, that way you can see more easily if you are too low
This is why I want my CFI to put me through stalls to practice how to recover from them.
I haven’t started the actual flying part yet aside from my discovery flight. I’m taking ground school in my own in my own time before hand, and adding Kelsey’s videos to my self-imposed curriculum.
Powerline incident happened in South Africa. Being from there and speaking Afrikaans I could understand what they said. Very happy to know everyone is good
South Africa is beautiful fly in....hello from Michigan USA