The Problem With Fortnite's Battle Pass - And How To Fix It

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  • Опубликовано: 3 дек 2024

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  • @tdsco
    @tdsco  3 месяца назад +32

    Well well well… www.fortnite.com/news/change-to-item-exclusivity-in-future-fortnite-battle-passes

    • @rengoku3050
      @rengoku3050 3 месяца назад +5

      aged like fine wine

    • @Luminous_1700
      @Luminous_1700 3 месяца назад

      @@tdsco _Future_ battle passes
      No shirtless X-Lord for me 🥲
      Though some have been speculating that epic is testing the waters with this potential change, and there's still a possibility that they might revert exclusivity on the older battle passes if the community receives it well enough, and I'm presuming that they likely will.
      ... Or that could just be our collective wishful thinking.

    • @Luminous_1700
      @Luminous_1700 3 месяца назад

      @tdsco _Future_ battle passes
      No shirtless X-Lord for me 🥲
      Though some have been speculating that epic is testing the waters with this potential change and it's still possible that they might revert exclusivity on older battle passes if the change is well received enough by the community. They're taking small steps to see what they can and can't do, which probably started with the paradigm being "accidentally" brought back for an hour a couple days ago.
      ... Or it could be just our collective wishful thinking.

    • @rengoku3050
      @rengoku3050 3 месяца назад

      @@mememaster6748 What you mean

    • @rengoku3050
      @rengoku3050 3 месяца назад

      @@mememaster6748 yeah

  • @MiracleGaming7
    @MiracleGaming7 4 месяца назад +485

    Being a newer player to the game who never played during the older battle passes, I don't have too much of a problem with the current battle passes, but your concept looks a lot better than what we have

    • @DeterminedTorres
      @DeterminedTorres 4 месяца назад +28

      Same here, I missed out on Chapter 1 and 2 because I laughed Fortnite off. I regret it now because of the skins I wanted. Another friend of mine also had a skin he wanted but it's also locked to the Battle Pass.

    • @aetheriox463
      @aetheriox463 4 месяца назад +10

      as a player who had almost all of the old passes, the current system isnt terrible. i dont like the fact its 200 tiers now though

    • @ARHAANTALWAAR
      @ARHAANTALWAAR 4 месяца назад +3

      This is because the old battlepasses had a better way of leveling up

    • @Kamylamy
      @Kamylamy 4 месяца назад +2

      @@DeterminedTorres womp womp

    • @scorpionswimmer828
      @scorpionswimmer828 4 месяца назад +5

      That’s why it would be an amazing idea for Fortnite to bring out like a legacy pass cause LEGO would want to make money on the old battlepass skins, I envy halo infinite battlepass system.

  • @89carti
    @89carti 4 месяца назад +183

    It's honestly weird how battle passes have downgraded over the years (UI worse, battle star system worse, free tiers and paid tiers merged, progressive skins gone, unique items like pets and toys gone, battle passes being full of edit styles and boring emotes that are only a few seconds long instead of dances, etc) but I think this is a great UI concept well blending the old chapter 1 look with the chapter 5 style!
    My only wish is for them to do battle passes similar to chapter 1 again, I mean imagine if skins like the machinist or megalo don were progressive? Giving them separate challenges to do when you unlock the skin to earn the styles instead of just getting them in the battle pass. It would just be so nice to have that again

    • @gegu937
      @gegu937 4 месяца назад +8

      honestly just dub it filler creep. More and more items in the battlepass are just reskins and sprays that no one uses. The V-bucks are being pushed further and further back. you have to hit like... lvl 150 to get max vbucks from the paid pass.

    • @89carti
      @89carti 4 месяца назад +7

      @@gegu937 Yup. I know we've basically always had filler in battle passes, but it was significantly less than it is now. Also the vbucks being in the bonus rewards is ridiculous. It's a cheap way of forcing you to level up more and it sucks. I'm not that high of a level this season since I don't like the season or battle pass at all except I do want to get all the vbucks but now I have to get to level 150 instead of just 100 like how it used to be

    • @timechanger6679
      @timechanger6679 4 месяца назад

      @@89cartipersonal piece of advice, find a good creative map with a bunch of XP, I used one called Giga Red Vs Blue, there’s an XP button in the corner of the red side of the map and after 15 minutes you’re put in an XP room where you can press every button twice, you can only really use it like three times before you hit your max creative XP but I was able to use it and that combined with challenges has gotten me to like level 171 now

    • @Nrbeck
      @Nrbeck 4 месяца назад +3

      Yeah, also all the tear 100 skins in the newer battle passes just aren’t as good as the ones in chapter 1. In my opinion i think all the newer skins are just way to complex, and the older ones were just simple and matched the game more rather then all the newer skins that come out that are way to realistic.

    • @89carti
      @89carti 4 месяца назад +3

      @@Nrbeck While I agree they aren't as good as chapter 1, I think chapter 5 has actually gotten better when it comes to tier 100 skins. Valeria is a really cool tier 100 and better than luxe (a chapter 1 tier 100) in my opinion. Hades and megalo don kinda give me more chapter 1 vibes than the chapter 2-4 tier 100s. But obviously that all comes down to personal view. However I do still agree with you and think chapter 1 had better tier 100s that fit the game overall. Also even though I compliment the current tier 100s they have still significantly downgraded from chapter 1. I mean comparing skins like omega, ragnarok, vendetta and more to the tier 100s we get now just shows how they've gotten worse. The ones in chapter 1 had an insane amount of edit styles that completely upgraded the skin. You unlock a pretty cool skin at tier 100, but as you played the game you unlocked even better styles for it that made the skin so cool and unique. Even ones that didn't have upgradable styles like ice king were so insane that he didn't even need them. I feel like newer tier 100s could definitely benefit from progressive styles. Tier 100s also used to be so badass and fierce, and when you saw one in game you'd honestly question if you want to fight them. Now it's nothing like that, I feel like tier 100s being so easy to get now also plays a factor in that. Chapter 1 used to be decently hard to level up the battle pass yet it was still doable and very rewarding. Now I can finish a battle pass in like a week if I wanted to. I definitely don't feel satisfied or even rewarded getting to tier 100 now as much as I used to in chapter 1

  • @Placeholder-kl2pq
    @Placeholder-kl2pq 4 месяца назад +189

    FOMO works when you think "damn I could have played and gotten this" but when "there's no way I could have played at this time" it's a whole different story. Sooner or later they will have to reconsider their policy about battle passes exclusivity

    • @MICHEALDESANTAS
      @MICHEALDESANTAS 4 месяца назад +4

      No

    • @Placeholder-kl2pq
      @Placeholder-kl2pq 4 месяца назад

      @@MICHEALDESANTAS shut up bro, no one asked. you will die of old age, and the skins will still be here. Do you understand how stupid it is? Literally a digital cemetery. This is not cyberpunk I expected

    • @AQ_ChristianZ
      @AQ_ChristianZ 4 месяца назад +8

      Aye 👍

    • @Robokoop4000
      @Robokoop4000 4 месяца назад +3

      They’d have to pay out way too much back to the players, they can’t reconsider at this point.

    • @Placeholder-kl2pq
      @Placeholder-kl2pq 4 месяца назад +28

      @@Robokoop4000 They don't owe you anything. Where is my compensation for playing Overwatch before it became f2p? Sometimes I wish Fortnite was owned by some assholes like Blizzard who wouldn't care about OG's feelings at all

  • @Yoshiinite
    @Yoshiinite 4 месяца назад +108

    It's even worse when you consider the season after the current one is rumored to be ALL collabs, all Marvel, honestly i don't know why collabs need to stay gone forever for being in a Battle pass :/

    • @empiyrr2133
      @empiyrr2133 4 месяца назад +13

      You’d think they wouldn’t FOMO collars since they could milk them out longer

    • @Nrbeck
      @Nrbeck 4 месяца назад +9

      Exactly, we get collabs way too often now they don’t even feel special. I remember back in chapter 1 season 9 when we got the john wick collab it was huge we got a hole ltm, free rewards, a poi on the map ect. We didn’t get collabs that much back in chapter 1. So when we got one it felt special but now it’s like we get like 12 collabs a season!

    • @Endor2001
      @Endor2001 3 месяца назад

      Licenses cost money and it's all about the contracts. Too many stupid people in this comments section can't figure this basic stuff out for themselves...

    • @Yoshiinite
      @Yoshiinite 3 месяца назад

      @@Endor2001 Are you stupid? Epic would make way more money back if they just sold the skins, and I doubt any of the license holders even care if they brought Collab battle pass skins to the shop. Only people that care about that are the "muh exclusive skin" weirdos.

    • @Yoshiinite
      @Yoshiinite 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Endor2001 You ignoring the fact that Epic and the license holders would make WAY MORE MONEY, if they just sold the skins on the shop. I doubt license holders even care about battle pass exclusivity, only the weirdos that want exclusives care about that.

  • @chiknn
    @chiknn 4 месяца назад +124

    They should add back those skins that have like progressive styles i think theyre called, an example of one is drift, very cool skin

    • @tobiasstas1459
      @tobiasstas1459 4 месяца назад +5

      Fr

    • @soldiertaylor1527
      @soldiertaylor1527 4 месяца назад +1

      They have reskin versions in the item shop

    • @Mark-40-556
      @Mark-40-556 4 месяца назад +11

      ​@soldiertaylor1527 the summer version does not look as cool as the normal drift

    • @doofus938
      @doofus938 4 месяца назад

      Nah should’ve been born earlier lil bro

    • @wet0wl
      @wet0wl 4 месяца назад +1

      Idk. They cool but they’re a little lame considering you’re only ever going to use one or two of them.
      I’m much more in favour of the transformation emote level 100s that we’ve been getting throughout chapter 5.

  • @KaptainKirom
    @KaptainKirom 3 месяца назад +4

    How to make it better
    1.) Progressive skins should be back
    2.) Give the battlepasses the little hubs like the one s in chapter 2 season 2-4
    3,)give the chapter 1 desigh of the batllepass free stuff on the stop and premium stuff on the bottom
    4,) remove the current battlestar system bring back the old battlestars and bring Xp coins back
    5.) Keep secret skins secret

  • @lavishyyy
    @lavishyyy 4 месяца назад +8

    Bro the Battle Pass UI concept is insane, you HAVE to apply for a job at Epic Games right now

  • @sampIes
    @sampIes 4 месяца назад +62

    i was literally 3 levels away from peter griffin and a family situation came up so i missed him. i am so upset as that’s one skin i was actually excited for in SO long

    • @tdsco
      @tdsco  4 месяца назад +9

      @@sampIes yea seeing/hearing stuff like that sucks man, hopefully epic changes their mind on keeping that exclusive🙏

    • @VixxyCodePop
      @VixxyCodePop 4 месяца назад

      @@tdscounfortunately that’s most likely never gonna happen because as long as people keep buying the battle passes (me for example) they keep making money therefore they ain’t gonna change it

    • @tdsco
      @tdsco  4 месяца назад +3

      @@VixxyCodePop lol what, exactly they will keep making money from BPs and they will make way more money selling skins in the shop after the season ends. we spend 950 for a BP when each of the 8 skins unlocked could be sold individually for 1500-2000

    • @roxinim6479
      @roxinim6479 4 месяца назад

      i've done every single mission, BOUGHT THE LEVEL UP PACK FROM THE ITEM SHOP, and still wasn't enough to get the peter griffin emote
      and i've completed (level 100 at least) every pass from c2s2 up until the peter griffin one
      now i feel likr i'm done

    • @Mavinator0411
      @Mavinator0411 4 месяца назад

      I swear I just wrote a paragraph and now it’s gone ):

  • @quenteer5521
    @quenteer5521 4 месяца назад +8

    Just bring back overtime challenges and make us only grind to 100 or leave the xp alone when it's good. I love the chapter one battlepasses and the concept

  • @crazylumbyjack4607
    @crazylumbyjack4607 4 месяца назад +5

    I MUCH prefer the Halo Infinite/DRG approach to battle passes, where you can work for the current one, but you can also do previous ones at the cost of not doing the previous one. (The main difference between Halo and DRG is that the latter has no premium version as it's a paid game)

  • @Slushifps
    @Slushifps 4 месяца назад +33

    Love the video Tedesco!
    Not sure if anyone cares, but here's a few things I think would benefit the current state of battlepasses, lmk what yall think!
    1. Just playing battle royale should give enough XP to reach level high levels, and challenges should be both fun and supplemental to get a bit more exp. (Getting more exp should be optional to help unlock more things after the battlepass which I cover in my next point) Currently the challenges feel more like busy work and make me question my sanity when trying to complete them. I miss when challenges had us trying to find locations hidden in loading screens and focused more on puzzle based concepts to actually make it feel fun and rewarding. These days, I can't seem to find anyone to do challenges with, because everyone looks at it like a waste of time. Like who really wants to interact with 3 NPCS conveniently placed in every opposite corner of the map...
    2. Bonus styles are cool, but at this point there's nothing too special about them. Every season has these bonus styles that don't really stand out and are pretty much forgotten about after just a few seasons. I think this system is okay, but I think they should experiment with bringing back the golden styles we saw in c2s2. These were much more challenging to get and I felt like it was a good mix for casual players and grinders. Even though I wasn't able to get them all, I wasn't too disappointed as the amount of gold I unlocked and it still felt rewarding and special. Nowadays If I don't reach level 200 I feel like I didn't get my moneys worth of the battlepass, but maybe this is just be because of how the styles are claimed with battlestars instead of being unlocked in the quests menu.
    3. The quality of skins has seemed to have dramatically dropped. I don't know why every season we get insanely awesome concept art and then the skins drop and it looks like they intentionally made them look low quality. If you don't believe me, look at concept art for the mythical battlepass and then look at the actual skins we got... Maybe I'm missing the true reason behind this, but it just seems like the model designers are lazy and don't want to re-create the concept art.
    Would love to hear what others think! These are just my opinions! :)

    • @89carti
      @89carti 4 месяца назад +4

      I agree with the first point a lot, its insane to me how in seasons like chapter 2 season 4 you had to get to level 225 to get the max super level style (higher than the current max super level styles) yet you were able to get that higher level style in just battle royale since they didn't have any other ways to get XP at the time. Now if you only play battle royale you definitely won't be able to get level 200, essentially forcing you to try other modes or buy levels

    • @chiknn
      @chiknn 4 месяца назад +2

      Hi

    • @ltisdabest21
      @ltisdabest21 4 месяца назад +2

      How have they do you even remember what most chapter 1 skins looked like? They were mostly terrible defaults reskinned.

    • @chiknn
      @chiknn 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ltisdabest21 they weren't 💀

    • @hatsfilps
      @hatsfilps 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@chiknn a good most of them where based on the defaults

  • @wet0wl
    @wet0wl 4 месяца назад +1

    Dude your concept is PERFECT. It still keeps the modern feel of the battle passes while giving us the advantages of the old rewards.
    I even thought of the same idea of having the super styles being the exclusive ones so older battle pass skins can still be purchased (maybe a year after release tho for some extra exclusivity and value)
    I’m not a huge fan of the old layout as it is a bit plain looking but I’m all function over fashion for this so I ain’t complaining. Great job.

  • @sonicrunn3r895
    @sonicrunn3r895 3 месяца назад +1

    The battle star system did genuinely work back in the Chapter 3 seasons imo. They fixed a lot of the pages having weird dependencies on getting styles for other skins (skins requiring the page completion), and it let you get a certain number of items to unlock pages back then too. Chapter 4 nuked the system to what it is now sadly, which is a shame because it was actually decent before.

  • @dawn2375
    @dawn2375 4 месяца назад +32

    I don’t get why they don’t just make a battle pass that keeps adding on to the last battle pass for example season 1 battle pass only 100 tiers season 2 200 tiers (obviously charging 10 dollars to unlock 100-200) on and on after a chapter just restart it or maybe not. For older players it will solve the problem about not missing out on certain skins. Obviously super style skins stay exclusive to that season for players that go beyond. Another idea is make it a players choice of what battle pass they want to do let’s say chapter 5 season 1 instead of the current season 3 (it would be a extra 10 or 5 dollar charge to do older battle pass) but if you pick a older season you won’t be able to pick season 3 until 2 or 1 seasons have passed.

    • @Only_Some
      @Only_Some 4 месяца назад +2

      there are games that flopped that did this pick your pass crap... game was so bad i cant remember its name... so no... keep it like it is or go back to the shop and pass in one place

    • @dawn2375
      @dawn2375 4 месяца назад +5

      @@Only_Some Right… I’ve never seen a game do what I just said and I kept up with most battle royale games. But if you can remind me what game it was that would be awesome💀. Also a game doesn’t flop only because of a battle pass it’s about the gameplay.

    • @vickysealey1524
      @vickysealey1524 4 месяца назад

      This wont work because if people dont like a certain battlepass during a season, why would they want to wait months for a brand new season just to have either reskins or super styles to skins they dont like???

  • @symon1933
    @symon1933 4 месяца назад +15

    I feel like Epic should let us finish old battles passes and have progressed on different ones to choose and when done with the main battle-pass for the season move on to old ones to keep fun and active players

    • @_abarofsoap_
      @_abarofsoap_ 4 месяца назад +1

      i feel like there'd be a problem with that, lets use magneto's quests as an example. You need to use his power for some of his quests, 4 seasons from now they wont even be in the files, making the quests impossible to complete unless they change it

    • @naytivee
      @naytivee 4 дня назад

      they used to for ex s7 ch 1 u could still do stuff for calamaity or dire from the previous season but if ur say sum diff i dont know if that be a good idea

  • @libbecnoir
    @libbecnoir 4 месяца назад +10

    keeping the superstyles exclusive but releasing the normal styles for the battle pass skins into the item shop is genuinely one of the best options they could go for imo

  • @ShadowTigerYT
    @ShadowTigerYT 3 месяца назад +1

    FYI Fortnite has recently gone on record to say from now on any Battle Pass cosmetic is non-exclusive so it could just be put in the Item Shop, so from now on its gonna be all able to go into the Item Shop, but there will be exclusive Battle pass styles and cosmetics luckily.

  • @milesdsy
    @milesdsy 3 месяца назад +2

    this aged like milk

  • @bobjeffy3456
    @bobjeffy3456 4 месяца назад +4

    I don’t understand why the skins can’t come back. There’s no law. They just said that and can change it at anytime. Idk why they act like it cannot be undone

    • @naytivee
      @naytivee 4 дня назад

      loose value and dumb

  • @Luminous_1700
    @Luminous_1700 4 месяца назад +158

    Add more hot men in the battle pass again and most of my dissatisfactions will vanish

    • @tdsco
      @tdsco  4 месяца назад +18

      @@Luminous_1700 real

    • @Ace_Gunner
      @Ace_Gunner 4 месяца назад +1

      Real

    • @davidcorodeanu4535
      @davidcorodeanu4535 4 месяца назад +1

      fortnite has an amazing pass , idk why small brain people think is bad , not even worth explaining why it's super good

    • @Cryptid_Tophat
      @Cryptid_Tophat 4 месяца назад +7

      Same with woman I don't find blue hair woman with all kinds of piercings attractive

    • @Infrared-nyne
      @Infrared-nyne 4 месяца назад +2

      GAYYY

  • @Nrbeck
    @Nrbeck 4 месяца назад +4

    Great concept! Cant wait for the whole UI video!

  • @potatoe9453
    @potatoe9453 3 месяца назад +1

    8:35 famous last words

  • @AgentRayGun
    @AgentRayGun 4 месяца назад +2

    This came up in my random feed and I thought, okay, every other content creator says the same thing. I've watched this video THREE times because I can't get over how right and dead right you are on every last thing you said here. Holy crap, you called out just about every last thing I also feel is wrong in the BP and needs to be corrected ASAFP. I'm wondering if I should sue you for robbing my thoughts and making a video out of them. You earned yourself a subscriber, friend.

  • @PixelShiftss
    @PixelShiftss 4 месяца назад +5

    I did not expect to be Jumpscare by TTYD Chapter 7 banger. I haven’t even started watching but I now know you have excellent music taste 😌

  • @lizzydarkrose
    @lizzydarkrose 4 месяца назад +3

    Man, I just want OG Midas lol. Fortnite was not on my radar four years ago, it sucks that I'll never be abe to obtain that skin. However, he is a Fortnite original, so I'm not THAT mad that I won't get him. The pass collab skins definitely hurt more. Gutted that Spider Gwen will never be available. I feel the longer the game goes on, the more impractical the exclusive BP collab skins become. How many IPs can they go through before all the major characters people would be interested in getting have already been locked away in an arbitrary digital vault?

  • @MrSamuria
    @MrSamuria 4 месяца назад +85

    They need to just copy what Halo did and let us buy older Battlepasses

    • @ghostfreak978
      @ghostfreak978 4 месяца назад +4

      is it like the bp vault in codm ?

    • @tobyalbada
      @tobyalbada 4 месяца назад +12

      50% of the player base would be mad, those skins are rare, and it has been a reward for them because they played the game so soon. I began in season 6, and even though I would love to have a Reaper in my locker, I don’t see it happening.

    • @SophisticatedWaffle
      @SophisticatedWaffle 4 месяца назад +32

      @@tobyalbadaOver 3/4 of the people that complain they want stuff to be rare are sweats, who have been seeming to get everything they want for a while now. They can’t keep gatekeeping people from their favorite characters just because they weren’t old enough to play, weren’t allowed to play, or, maybe not even ALIVE to play it. Does that even sound fair??

    • @rodzynek561
      @rodzynek561 4 месяца назад +1

      @@tobyalbadayou can buy licensed john wick, its even better

    • @morganlimes
      @morganlimes 4 месяца назад +5

      ​@@SophisticatedWaffle i wasnt allowed to play during fortnites peak even though i had already been playing for month after release, ended up missing out on all the early battlepasses 🤦

  • @XPGrindDeathking
    @XPGrindDeathking 4 месяца назад +6

    It's not a grind at all, you can get 20 levels every day by basically doing nothing, 30 even if you play bot lobbies with wasteland challenges for a few hours a day on top of that. I got 16 levels a day from being afk alone this season. Creative takes less than an 1 hour to finish for 7 levels with the right maps, that's 23 levels from barely playing the game.

    • @tdsco
      @tdsco  4 месяца назад +2

      @@XPGrindDeathking so that is exactly what I’m talking about in my video. Someone who plays only BR and completes all challenges may not finish the pass, but others who have XP methods (bot lobby wasteland challenge, specific creative maps, afk) reap the rewards. Hope this changes

    • @XPGrindDeathking
      @XPGrindDeathking 4 месяца назад +6

      @@tdsco But anyone can do it, it's not hard to do since you can literally afk and not play the game at all. Besides every season is like 70 days on average so you can play even less and hit 100+/200 without playing much a while before the season ends. I don't get why people are trying to rush, not everyone needs to reach 200 in a week or get level 1001 or anything like that.

    • @tdsco
      @tdsco  4 месяца назад +2

      @@XPGrindDeathking i hope you know it sounds ridiculous that it’s a standard to afk for hours to complete a battle pass..? In ch1 that was not required so i don’t get why it is now. Enough XP should be given from challenges and BR gameplay to reach level 200

    • @ltisdabest21
      @ltisdabest21 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@tdscoConsidering a bunch of people missed out on Omegas light styles I don't think you could necessarily unlock everything in a relatively fair time in chapter 1. The whole reason they added the carry over system for styles and other rewards for skins like Ragnarok was because they knew it was unreasonable to unlock them.

    • @tdsco
      @tdsco  4 месяца назад +1

      @@ltisdabest21 thats a different conversation about a different time, and both fortbytes and the level 65 ultima knight didn’t carry over

  • @TGAcobalt
    @TGAcobalt 4 месяца назад +9

    I think they need to bring back the fun challenges like from chapter one. And need to separate tiers from levels again

  • @DeagleIsL1fe
    @DeagleIsL1fe 4 месяца назад +3

    This is wayy better than what we currently have and I wish Epic would hire you lol. Also keeping battle pass collab skins exclusive is stupid imo, literally all the good collab skins are kept away by an older battle pass. Especially stupid if it's a shitty season that no one really wanted to play, thank god there were no collab skins in this battle pass lmao.

  • @TGAcobalt
    @TGAcobalt 4 месяца назад +73

    SEPARATE TIERS AND LEVELS AGAIN

    • @YeahIDKWhyIPickedThisName
      @YeahIDKWhyIPickedThisName 4 месяца назад +20

      Idk bout you, but i like being able to skip some of the crappier rewards for better ones

    • @aaron308
      @aaron308 4 месяца назад +4

      @@YeahIDKWhyIPickedThisNamebattle passes nowadays are bad, so idc

    • @YeahIDKWhyIPickedThisName
      @YeahIDKWhyIPickedThisName 4 месяца назад +2

      @@aaron308 okay? But like my point was that i think it's better to skip the rewards you wouldn't care about for some better stuff like emotes.

    • @aaron308
      @aaron308 4 месяца назад

      @@YeahIDKWhyIPickedThisName i disagree and also everything in the battle pass sucks anyways so who cares. there hasn’t been a good battle pass since chapter 2.

    • @YeahIDKWhyIPickedThisName
      @YeahIDKWhyIPickedThisName 4 месяца назад +2

      @@aaron308 it's irrelevant if you don't like the battle passes, my point is that it's better to skip emotions for other things.
      Which I consider better than the old format.

  • @tristris6193
    @tristris6193 4 месяца назад +21

    I have never wanted a skin so bad, I’d kill to have deadpool, I only recently got my console and started playing fortnite so it hurts I’ll never be able to have him 💔

    • @x-modulator4067
      @x-modulator4067 4 месяца назад +1

      I was able to get him back when he came out but just barely. Something was bugged with the game on my phone(I was playing mobile at the time), and it logged me out every time I closed the game. I sat down with it for a bit, bought the battle pass and just did the challenges up to getting Deadpool in what I’m pretty sure was one sitting, then just let the game go until it was removed from IOS in the next season lol. I think there will be some version of Deadpool skin for the new movie during next season, so I hope you can at least get some version. As much as I like the battle pass as a play system, the exclusivity is a pain. I remember the end of chapter 1 with season X, and only getting through 40-something tiers because the game was just a bit awkward to play and the battle pass being purely revamped older skins put me off a bit. Now, with hindsight I wish I tried to to hit tier 100 as Ultima Knight is a ridiculously cool skin that I would probably have used quite a bit. It doesn’t really matter much at the end of the day but it’s a little annoying for a game that promotes itself with those characters, and I’ll still complain here and there lol.

    • @GOTOUCHGRASSLIKEME
      @GOTOUCHGRASSLIKEME 4 месяца назад +1

      Same ,I really want Midas and Montague

    • @tristris6193
      @tristris6193 4 месяца назад

      @@x-modulator4067I wasn’t sure they were going to because a recent version of wolverine came out and deadpool wasn’t with him- but considering the fact that there is supposed to be another marvel collab happening and theres all these rifts around the map rn etc I really hope they *do* release another deadpool and that it looks just as good as the first

    • @jmstudios8470
      @jmstudios8470 4 месяца назад

      @@tristris6193i don’t believe the new Wolverine has any relation with the new movie, so maybe the battle pass will include both a new Wolverine and a new Deadpool that are connected to the upcoming movie

    • @tristris6193
      @tristris6193 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jmstudios8470 I don’t believe they have to do with the movie either, I just thought that if they were going to add another wolverine it would’ve come with deadpool

  • @HarleyLikesUrMUM
    @HarleyLikesUrMUM 4 месяца назад

    Dude, i can't say enough on how IMPRESSIVE the concept on the battlepass was, It is what I expect of the battlepasses and you've portrayed it perfectly!!
    Epic gotta hire you up fr

  • @shadowsnake5133
    @shadowsnake5133 4 месяца назад +1

    Honestly, I don't see them doing that. But i can see them listening to an argument that especially works given leaks show we're getting a Deadpool soon. Make the iconic forms of the characters a base and the one's that can be bought, and make themed versions for the theme, that are exclusive to the theme. A good example, magneto, wastelander magneto being locked behind the battle pass would be fine, lame but fine, but his classic form should appear in the shop in like 2 seasons. This allows for a double dip, you get to sell Spiderman and Superman for money and have them be in the battle pass without losing fomo. And if they're smart, they'll reuse some seasons themes, allowing them to reuse those exclusive skins, and maybe some new one's of characters that weren't used first time around. Yet another double dip, still get fomo, but now you can use the spy theme again, and people can unlock new styles for them, perhaps with missions for new players to unlock the old one's. And round and round we go, predictably out the window, no theme or characters off the table for then to use in the shop or battle pass going fowards, one year we get mad max styled Superman, another year skrull Spiderman, cool shit that they really can't do currently given they don't reuse season ideas.

  • @flamer38544
    @flamer38544 3 месяца назад +1

    I want to say this video aged poorly, but well. Thats due to them stating they're going to start adding chp5s4 onward to item shop. They also will always make variants of all skins. So in a way you will always be able to get a character, just not the exact same. Anyway, subbed man. Watched the video about the UI as well.

  • @GtasticVoorheesSubNow
    @GtasticVoorheesSubNow 4 месяца назад +6

    Dude 100 Percent of this video is true except that Tier 100 Skins are just built in Transform Emotes instead of progression upgrade skins which they replaced. For that they should bring back upgrades skins not built in emotes or the fully upgrade stage at stage 2. Another thing I would like to mention is that they make Battle Passes Permanent like in Halo Infinite so people can get the Collab skin without breaking the cosmetic rule.

  • @343greenspark
    @343greenspark 4 месяца назад +1

    Hire this man.

  • @revolzyy
    @revolzyy 19 дней назад

    Another great thing about Chapter 1 Fortnite was its UI. It's not nostalgia, the game (especially during season 9) had the best UI I've ever seen, so good to look at

  • @LarsOskar
    @LarsOskar 4 месяца назад +1

    I think the secret skin should be able to be bought so it is like a reward if you have the battle pass but you can buy it later in the itemshop if you didn't get it.

  • @Infrared-nyne
    @Infrared-nyne 4 месяца назад +1

    Remove Lego kits, sprays, emoticons and insert more emotes/gliders/wraps etc and I'm good. That's all I need

  • @0errab0
    @0errab0 3 месяца назад

    This Season 5 Chapter 4 Battle Pass is my very first Battle Pass. That being said. I really like the idea of variant skins being exclusive to the Battle Pass but the base skins being made available in other ways after the season has ended. I'd also be happy with a Battle Pass mashup that would see some past Battle Pass skins added has bonus rewards to the current Battle Pass. I originally stopped playing Fortnite back in 2018, for some reason, this Current Season caught my attention and now I'm grinding out 12 levels a day since the first day of the Current Battle Pass!

  • @theoutsiderjess1869
    @theoutsiderjess1869 4 месяца назад +1

    I miss how the old Battlepass worked when it came to finishing it and how unique they were

  • @Chomps17
    @Chomps17 3 месяца назад

    I like how Super Animal Royale does its battle passes. If I remember correctly, the way it worked was if you didnt finish the current battle pass it would join a list of every other battle pass in the game, even if you didnt own the other passes,. After say season 5 starts you can still progress through season 4s pass as long as you purchased said pass at some point in time. The system gives you an infinite amount of time to complete the pass AND lets you purchase any of the old passes. So if you were to start playing in season 6 you could purchase any of the old passes (seasons 1-5) and still be able to complete them by season 20. The only catch was that you could only progress through one pass at at time which was reasonable.

  • @LimpBanana
    @LimpBanana 4 месяца назад +11

    Very well produced video, but I mostly kind of disagree on the UI.
    The old battle pass UI was one of the only reasons I never felt compelled to buy passes until Chapter 4. Same with any other game with that system, ie: Overwatch 2 etc. It just felt way more grindy because of the linearity despite basically being the same time (or less). The loading screens incorporated into the background gives it a little flair as well. I also like resource management, so it feels better to me personally. I do understand this isn't the opinion of everyone, but at least the new UI worked on me :/

    • @yahia7437
      @yahia7437 4 месяца назад +1

      I also disagree on his UI concept. The current one is much better than what we had before now it s much more colourful and fluid it gives me want to grind it all until the end

  • @Megamutt14
    @Megamutt14 4 месяца назад +3

    I wanted meowscles but the season he debuted in was so grinding and annoying that I couldn't get him and I wanted epic to at least make a GOOD reskin of him because I missed out in the skin I wanted the most, people wanted this but for collab only which isn't fair for the people who wanted noncollab skins but could never get them

  • @battlinjoe2592
    @battlinjoe2592 4 месяца назад

    Excellent use of TTYD music in the video. You got yourself a new subscriber.
    Also, yeah, leaving super styles as the exclusives is a recurring idea tossed around and I see it as a great trade off.
    Sweats will always be annoying, though. I’ve seen people today get hostile over the idea of a _toggle_ on the new Deadpool and Wolverine skins to remove the cell shading if you want. _A toggle_

    • @tdsco
      @tdsco  4 месяца назад +1

      @@battlinjoe2592 thanks for the support man 🤙
      TTYD train is just the most relaxing tune, and the new Ch6 and 7 battle theme remakes go ridiculously hard
      It’s also pretty annoying too see people say “they can just remix the skin and sell in the shop” cause the reality is, it’s a downgrade. Cool for people who like cell shaded stuff but I’ll definitely be rocking the originals and not buying the new ones

  • @bananensplit69
    @bananensplit69 4 месяца назад +1

    Ive noticed recently (ch5s2 and ch5s3) theyve began to make the first 2 superlevel styles the same design but simply different colours. Only the last style gets a new pattern/design. This is awful before all 3 superlevels were truly unique not just recolours for 2 thirds of them

  • @anothergingeronthetheinternet
    @anothergingeronthetheinternet 3 месяца назад +1

    I feel like for a month if it’s an anniversary of a season they should have a bundle of the battle pass skins from said season

  • @lenny25235
    @lenny25235 4 месяца назад +4

    They really have to rebuild the entire game... 😅

  • @Dogo_x9
    @Dogo_x9 3 месяца назад

    This is à realy nice concept of battle pass and the only problem i have whit it its that i liked the hub of chapter 2 season 2,3 and 4 hub where u can go to the battle pass see secrets and even have a custumizeble unbrela place like in chapter 2 season 3 if u played on those seasons i tink you will understand how à battle pass hub works and i realy like it but your concept is realy good as well kep it up 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @alecpheonix0761
    @alecpheonix0761 3 месяца назад

    As someone who’s been buying battle passes since chapter 2 season 1 I didn’t have a problem with battle pass collabs, until they became too much, ruining the tier 100 and secret skin spots for a while, and when I realized that some people may never be able to get Iron man, because they didn’t play chapter 2 season 4 which is why I loved the fact Magneto got a new design, and then I died laughing when I saw his 2nd page was just normal Magneto

  • @JacobTheCroc
    @JacobTheCroc 3 месяца назад

    You earned my subscription to you and a bell on because you have predicted stuff well. Now you just gotta make new shop UI with search function and it will all be complete.

  • @1snap1
    @1snap1 4 месяца назад

    This concepts fire, but I would love it if the loading screen backgrounds stayed cus they were fire, also I feel like skins shouldn't really return and we should also keep battle stars but you only start getting them at level 101 in the bonus rewards (btw everything in the bonus rewards will cost 5 battlestars, that includes loading screens and music packs btw, the skins will be prerequisite until you claim all the rewards in that page and once you get to level 200 you unlock quests for the super styles just to make them even more worth the grind, and the quests will just be simple quests like collect gold or pick up 5 gold weapons or explode 10 cars in a single match or something else that's simple).

  • @okom75
    @okom75 3 месяца назад

    I think it should be how the chapter 3 batlle bass looks, with the battle stars and everything, but you get to pick from anything in the pass when you get your battle stars, with no prerequisites (with a few exceptions,but not the way it is now) , 3 different tabs: free, paid, bonus rewards (do quests to earn "bonus" battle stars, but also add the option to purchase said battle stars in case you have no time etc) and the quest rewards should be a part of the bonus rewards, since they are basically the same thing at this point

  • @lucasbittencourtnogueira5858
    @lucasbittencourtnogueira5858 3 месяца назад +1

    FOMO isnt a problem, it's a design. They know what they are doing and it's on purpose.

  • @sansdesou2595
    @sansdesou2595 4 месяца назад +1

    Something I noticed and hate is the fact you can’t get all 1500 Vbucks from the rewards in the base battlepass, You need to complete it first which will give you a total of a 1000 Vbucks and then you’ll need to go to the extra rewards to collect the rest 500, also don’t forget in the extras the Vbucks won’t all be in the same page, so if you want all the Vbucks in the BP you’ll have to grind a lot.

    • @Omarbhgaming
      @Omarbhgaming 4 месяца назад

      Yeah to get all the vbuck you need to reach level 122. I finally did it today

  • @Bashir-z2l
    @Bashir-z2l 4 месяца назад +2

    Too be honest I miss the progress styles It’s like the stages. And the challenges make me like the game more. And the pets and toys Made me play the game longer they should bring it back and the old battle pass ui too they should use your design

  • @yellowtoxic5668
    @yellowtoxic5668 4 месяца назад

    Well the thing is in terms of collab skins in battle passes, I’d argue that they always end up getting a much better item shop counterpart. Just look at Spiderman and Deadpool both of those have both battlepass and item shop variants so it IS possible that other collabs can get a remake or alternate version at a later date

  • @aziotuby
    @aziotuby 3 месяца назад

    I think you should be the guy who manages Fortnite! You know the answer to every problem. And u even focus on the smallest details. The battle pass u did is perfect!

  • @goofydogidk
    @goofydogidk 4 месяца назад

    I love your videos and your concepts. Keep doing what you’re doing because your videos are always great. I'm definitely subbing

  • @Chapy1189
    @Chapy1189 4 месяца назад +1

    Honestly battle pass exclusive is fine to me if you could just unlock something later no one's gonna grind for it I know it sucks missing out but that's how it's always been

  • @barynater
    @barynater 4 месяца назад

    4:28 finally someone acknowledged it😊

  • @LAUGHALREADY
    @LAUGHALREADY 4 месяца назад

    I 100% agree. As a person who pretty much stopped playing after c2s2 (started c1s1) and returned in c3s3. I agree that the calab skins should returned. The fact that i can't get one of my absolute favorite ip's like Carnage, Rick, Raven etc, because i didn't actively play while shit like the tanks UFOs and mechs were in the game is terrible.

  • @Tomatech
    @Tomatech 4 месяца назад

    Epic probably would need to make separate deals with the rights holders of their collabs to allow them to re-release battle pass collab skins, and from their perspective it would be better to create new versions of old skins so they can sell them to everyone, including people who own the original versions

  • @itez7503
    @itez7503 4 месяца назад

    U know what would be cool ? If they would add system where if u played the season u can access its battle pass using return tickets so if u played ch2 s2 but didnt finish it u can resume and if u didnt bought it u can do it now but bp wont have any v bucks in it so u would get only cosmetics and for older bps u also cant access style quests. I think this would be fair for everybody

  • @SenseiVen
    @SenseiVen 4 месяца назад

    I like the newer battle passes, but there's normally only a handful of skins I want, while when I bought my first battlepass in season 3, from the emotes to the skins it was so fucking hype

  • @Tomatech
    @Tomatech 4 месяца назад

    Now that Jam tracks can be used as music packs, i doubt we'll ever see an actual music pack in any future battle pass, since they can just give the jam track

  • @wutadam
    @wutadam 4 месяца назад

    I just hate in general how I'll see a cool skin or emote, but because it's from a previous battle pass, I'll never be able to get that item.

  • @Ruemir007
    @Ruemir007 4 месяца назад +2

    As someone who started playing in early oct 2017, i WHOLE HEARTEDLY support having battlepass skins be able to obtained after the season is over somehow.

  • @allurandy
    @allurandy 4 месяца назад

    great video man! will use your code in the future. hope epic takes a look at your video and weights your contribuitions, they're gold.

  • @snaily_lunar
    @snaily_lunar 4 месяца назад

    I think if they made it so you could buy old passes, you’d get an additional style like what skull trooper got. I understand it would be a lot of work but with the ammount of people that would buy stuff they missed out on would definitely be more than however much it would cost to pay their developers to do this

  • @Maverickbranstner1800
    @Maverickbranstner1800 4 месяца назад +1

    This is 100 times better then what we have now

  • @im_oktold_name2544
    @im_oktold_name2544 4 месяца назад

    I think it's really cool what you done with the battle pass and in my heart i really want to change this battle pass, but I don't think EPIC want to make best battle pass. We live in strange time, when everything changes. And when EPIC found their cow, which give a lot of money, they don't stop! Anything could be happen, and now EPIC aren't in best place to make some changes.
    Anyway, thanks for video! Have a nice day )

  • @uokatsuuchiha2768
    @uokatsuuchiha2768 4 месяца назад +1

    I wish they bring back rarities

  • @srge123
    @srge123 4 месяца назад

    Chapter 5 was the first time I reached level 200 in three seasons in a row. I enjoy Rocket Racing/Festival and don't whine. I haven't even completed all the quests in BR.

    • @tdsco
      @tdsco  4 месяца назад

      @@srge123 sums up the problem with the fortnite battle pass for fortnite battle royale pretty well then 👌

  • @NotOwainDark
    @NotOwainDark 4 месяца назад

    Appreciate hearing chapter 7 battle theme peak in the intro there

    • @tdsco
      @tdsco  4 месяца назад

      @@NotOwainDark chapter 6 and chapter 7 themes are just peak

  • @Bowl0fCereal
    @Bowl0fCereal 2 месяца назад

    fn should release collab skins in battlepasses, but the midway through the next season bring them into the shop, people can either wait to pay full price or missed out, or get it for cheaper but have to play one season.

  • @luie079
    @luie079 2 месяца назад

    i think variants should be optainable like they used to with drift, ragnarok because you were able to progress after the season which took away the need to grind before the season ended.

  • @ZdinoYT2
    @ZdinoYT2 3 месяца назад +2

    0:10 I love grinding

  • @MasLikesThings
    @MasLikesThings 3 месяца назад

    I like the early chapter 2 battle pass ui it just is so clean you see what your getting and it’s not just shoved in your face

  • @TheShadowCrafter
    @TheShadowCrafter 4 месяца назад

    My idea is to bring back old battle pass skins but for the original owners who maxed out the bp give them an exclusive backbling or edit style for the tier 100 skin.

  • @Boxscape_VR
    @Boxscape_VR 3 месяца назад

    i feel like they should bring back the old battle pass skins but make them a little more expensive than the rest of the skins. so they still have their worth while still being accessible to everyone else

  • @feb_ithrowfits5611
    @feb_ithrowfits5611 4 месяца назад +1

    would it be okay if Fortnite added this feature like halo infinite has the Battle Pass in Halo Infinite ever expire? No. All Battle Passes in Halo Infinite are permanently available and upgrading to the premium Battle Pass is always an option.

  • @Icegamer29
    @Icegamer29 4 месяца назад

    My take on this is that they should bring back old battle passes because if someone wants a skin from a old battle pass they could just buy it and complete it and for the people that say “I had it rare” it’s just a virtual item epic could either make a new style for the OG players like ghoul and skull trooper or they could leave it be I would prefer the first option but they should really not stress players out this much and it counts for every game like if I want to play a different game other than Fortnite I would have some random feeling of being worried about all the cool stuff that is in the battle pass that I would miss out on they should genuinely bring all the battle passes on one page and once your done with one go on to the next one you would like to buy whilst making new battle passes that we could choose if we want it

  • @SmellyFerret146
    @SmellyFerret146 4 месяца назад

    FINALLY SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THIS!!! 4:26

  • @L.Trabjerg
    @L.Trabjerg 4 месяца назад

    Wait so are you gonna release your updated UI to the public? Is that going to be a mod or sum, cuz that sounds darn epic!

  • @Rehaunted
    @Rehaunted 4 месяца назад

    Epic needs to see this, but they need to do this too!

  • @tobyalbada
    @tobyalbada 4 месяца назад

    I only care about the skin rarity in my locker, it’s just a more rewarding feeling having a legendary Level 100 skin, than a ‘grey’ one.
    I don’t think it’s a good idea bringing the Battle Pass skins to the item shop, although, I do agree on the collab skins not being accessible in the future, so they should just be item shop skins, and not secret skins, or battle pass skins.

  • @aktvxs
    @aktvxs 3 месяца назад

    i absolutely missed out on darth vader and superman and it hurts, they are my favorite characters since i was a kid, optimus prime too

  • @corfstah
    @corfstah 4 месяца назад

    The battle pass should only be for original non-crossover skins imo 8:02 that’s actually such a good idea

  • @S-1_24-25
    @S-1_24-25 4 месяца назад

    My friend started in late season 2 and got the season 2 battle pass at a bad time pretty much. He couldn’t even get up to level 14 and only battle pass skin from season 2 he has is blue squire.

  • @Spoopcy
    @Spoopcy 4 месяца назад +1

    Idk how but this season I got to level 70 by grinding hard then with me just casually playing within the last week I went from level 70-127

  • @Mavinator0411
    @Mavinator0411 4 месяца назад

    For the Collab skins, they can just change it a little bit like they did for the new Deadpool skin.

  • @Stilloy
    @Stilloy 4 месяца назад +6

    battle pass skin exclusivity should always be a thing except for collabs which shouldnt even be in the battle pass in the first place

  • @aposeba
    @aposeba 4 месяца назад

    Epic should hire this guy because it seems he is their last hope to change the whole UI to something better and functional again.

  • @IngozxUSA
    @IngozxUSA 4 месяца назад +1

    I hate that I couldn’t get the Deadpool skin

  • @brokensandvich1624
    @brokensandvich1624 4 месяца назад

    I would love it if they at least let you go back to the passes you bought, so many times of being so close to something i want just for me to be busy with something important

  • @maryamnoori1922
    @maryamnoori1922 4 месяца назад

    There is some skin like slurp Peabody in quest rewards which I think should have their own glider, backbling, pickaxe and etc in bonus reward part.
    So you would unlock main and alt version in first 100 level and you actually get something new in bonus reward

  • @DarkDragon-e1p
    @DarkDragon-e1p 4 месяца назад +1

    So can't they just to so that you can buy other seasons main battle passes and have challenges so you can still unlock the things? but just make the challenges harder as the seasons pass? Is that a good idea? :/

  • @Spade_FoxDerg
    @Spade_FoxDerg 4 месяца назад

    I think save the world might be on the old XP percentage too because in just a week or 2 using save the world mode, I am at level 100 it's crazy