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    How do beliefs come together? I have engaged in an interesting sociological experiment talking to progressives to better understand the basis and assumptions of their beliefs. Although I was not surprised in general I did learn more about their beliefs in greater detail and it led to a better understanding of the foundation of human belief.

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  • @FoldingChairJonson
    @FoldingChairJonson 3 месяца назад +85

    "The rewards from Tolerance is treachery and betrayal"
    -Warhammer 40k 3rd edition Rulebook

    • @malicant123
      @malicant123 3 месяца назад +5

      I often wonder whether older versions of 40k played a role in turning me based...

    • @kylethompson1379
      @kylethompson1379 3 месяца назад

      To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruellest and most bloody regime imaginable. Yet so long as there remains one of us still fighting, one who still rages in the name of justice and truth, then by the Allfather, the galaxy shall yet know hope.

    • @politicsandy-mj2se
      @politicsandy-mj2se Месяц назад

      That's true half of the time, and the other half of the time you're using wh40k as a reference on how to treat people, which doesn't sound like a good idea.

    • @kylethompson1379
      @kylethompson1379 Месяц назад

      @@politicsandy-mj2se show us what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind!

  • @erickroeger1161
    @erickroeger1161 3 месяца назад +48

    A healthy world view is with approached with humility and is tamed with real life experiences.
    Totally agree too, its hard to have a productive conversation when the other person wants to win their argument.

  • @kayobee604
    @kayobee604 3 месяца назад +56

    My only real regret is spending so much time trying to convince people that couldn't be convinced. People are just hard wired to their way of thinking.

    • @Rexhunterj
      @Rexhunterj 3 месяца назад

      Some people are meant to be braindead sheep who pull levers sadly and the small minority that's left over are the people who can critically think and are higher in intelligence than the average mammal on Earth.

    • @SSNESS
      @SSNESS 3 месяца назад +4

      I only regret not winning the lottery

    • @kayobee604
      @kayobee604 3 месяца назад +12

      @nibsj2887 For what I've seen, even after they get their asses kicked, some people are capable of asking for seconds.

    • @Brakka86
      @Brakka86 3 месяца назад

      Imo they refuse to accept that biology plays a role simply because that means things are fundamentally unfair and unequal. You can't change things that are biologically hardwired. It simply goes against their religion of equality. Essentially they are in denial. Progressive liberalism was flawed from the start and is destined to fail long term.

  • @ggrthemostgodless8713
    @ggrthemostgodless8713 3 месяца назад +44

    Women's eternal ever asking to expand THEIR freedom, is not to do the hard things men already do, it is so as to CONTROL the hard things men already do, servants so to speak. That is their sort of freedom, the one where they get all the rewards of civilisation for a smile, and men get to serve them in all the necessary things that need to be done, that they cannot do, the HARD things.

    • @roderickcortez138
      @roderickcortez138 3 месяца назад +26

      The problem is that most men are happy being servants.

    • @ggrthemostgodless8713
      @ggrthemostgodless8713 3 месяца назад +32

      @@roderickcortez138
      Exactly!!.... I had this precise talking point with some men at the gym days ago... and from what I heard, I am the problem!!
      Started bc I asked them why they load and load all those weights for women wound heavy bridges with the bar on the floor or smith machine, the women just look at them and smile.
      I stand there looking and the women look at me, and they KNOW that I KNOW WTF is gong on...
      They touch the guys' arm and say thank you...
      So in our men talk I said I would NOTTTT lift a finger for a woman just for a soft touch on my arm, either put out, or do it yourself, and that is only until I get in her pants, not forever... they disagreed. LOL.
      The women were close by TRYING to hear our talk, but I guess the men went and simp and told the women what I said ---> things are bit tense and weird at my gym now for me... I know it is not my imagination, I see women whispering between them and looking at me as they do it, ugly faces and all, I pretend I don't see them.
      We'll see what happens next, something gonna break, I sense it.
      Simps are worse than feminists.

    • @roderickcortez138
      @roderickcortez138 3 месяца назад +14

      @@ggrthemostgodless8713 Hell yeah man. Glad you see things for what they are!

    • @ggrthemostgodless8713
      @ggrthemostgodless8713 3 месяца назад

      @@roderickcortez138
      They want the positions of control and power, not the hard position of DOING hard things... last harsh storm I didn't see a single woman fixing anything, I saw plenty standing pitifully around looking at men in angst low key asking for help, and if any man did ask Is everything ok, they immediately go on a long necessity driven tirade telling him all the things"someone" needs to fix. Unfortunately mot men love being their slaves or are so used to it that they don't even question it, but I personally practice NOT helping them at any small or big thing in my daily life.
      As I was walking to the store, there was a woman with her car hood up, she kept trying to make eye contact, as I went by I did make eye contact, saw the engine, looked back at her and kept going, never asked her if I could help her, that was intentional so as to not simp instinctively when another more urgent things comes along.
      In the gym I teach and help MEN, and look at women like they are nuts if they ask for help... Go ask a bear for help madam.

    • @user-cs4su3ng9l
      @user-cs4su3ng9l 3 месяца назад

      ​@ggrthemostgodless8713i wish you well

  • @izaakkemp8938
    @izaakkemp8938 3 месяца назад +40

    This is probably the 2d or 3rd best 40k channel

  • @danielsatter1805
    @danielsatter1805 3 месяца назад +118

    We're fucked. Sad thing is that it's been a long time coming.

    • @SSNESS
      @SSNESS 3 месяца назад

      Hive mindsets are the worst

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 3 месяца назад +3

      “We’re fucked”
      You are with that mindset. Binge watching doomer content probably isn’t helping matters

    • @the1gresh
      @the1gresh 3 месяца назад +8

      ​@@brianmeen2158 Don't have to binge doomer content to think this way, broski. Just gotta live life and observe.

    • @sixstringerati
      @sixstringerati 3 месяца назад +2

      I say, fuck back, so it's no fun for them too.

    • @danielsatter1805
      @danielsatter1805 3 месяца назад +7

      @brianmeen2158 awfully presumptuous of you. Doesn't take much observation to see the path we're on. But if making a comment like that makes you feel better have it chief.

  • @travis3430
    @travis3430 3 месяца назад +98

    My belief economy wise is that we'll have a slow decline over the next decade like a deflating balloon

    • @denishrg9843
      @denishrg9843 3 месяца назад +28

      going out with a wimper, not a bang

    • @electrodynamicorb6548
      @electrodynamicorb6548 3 месяца назад +3

      Just bet it all on AI you’ll be sitting pretty

    • @realistic_delinquent
      @realistic_delinquent 3 месяца назад

      America will elect a republican majority, and the deep state entities bearing the “economy” on the back of corruption and funny money will drop it like a stone. February 2025 will be Black Friday all over again.

    • @DeusExMachina10001
      @DeusExMachina10001 3 месяца назад

      The economic conditions right now are a lot like they were in the 70s. We can come back from this but only if we get a period of time, like with Reagan's 1st term where we, at the very least, cap government spending. If that doesn't happen then we'll get to a point where the interest on our debt exceeds the amount of tax money the government receives. At the point, the government will not be able to hide that they're out of money any longer, all the welfare will stop, and the big cities will turn into effective warzones.

    • @hollowgonzalo4329
      @hollowgonzalo4329 3 месяца назад +3

      @travis3430
      That's already been happening gradually for a few decade's now.
      Incase you haven't noticed living standards in most regards have already been declining the younger you go basically.

  • @Ratta-kf3yh
    @Ratta-kf3yh 3 месяца назад +113

    As a 16 year old. I already know that when more men start to digest this brutal reality. Society will go down in fire. Because most men aren't ready for the truth.

    • @city_of_coompton6832
      @city_of_coompton6832 3 месяца назад +6

      Which truth are you referring to?

    • @Lucius_Aurelian_
      @Lucius_Aurelian_ 3 месяца назад +14

      I’ve said it to my more blue pulled Christian brothers, God is punishing us

    • @allseeingotto2912
      @allseeingotto2912 3 месяца назад +1

      The truth that w0men don’t love men , that everything is a lie and fake ? .

    • @imagoodlistener2730
      @imagoodlistener2730 3 месяца назад +7

      ​@@Lucius_Aurelian_100.
      The more we reject him. The more we are punished.

    • @johnlesoudeur3653
      @johnlesoudeur3653 3 месяца назад

      @@imagoodlistener2730 Your god is a "him"? It has a male sex!!!

  • @someguy403
    @someguy403 3 месяца назад +79

    I've come to the same conclusion, there isn't a point in discussing these topics with these types of people. I used to have some friends and I remember we were discussing why people are attracted to certain things. They completely denied the idea that attraction has any ties to biology, instead it all came down to randomness and what was currently in fashion without realizing that things only come into fashion because certain biological impulses combined with changes to the environment cause attraction to certain things. It was so bizarre to me that they actually thought the reason why men and women want to boink each other is because of what they see on the tv and not because we have innate biological impulses and goals as a living species. I used to want to hear other people out but after years of never being given the same opportunity to be heard that I have given others, I have given up on it. Unless the person I'm speaking is a known quantity to me and I can trust that they are able to discuss things without letting some dogmatic worldview get in the way, I simply just don't get involved. It's frustrating and tiring to try and talk with someone who has no interest in actually hearing you out or has the capacity to understand that what they believe could be wrong.

    • @DrmCom2003
      @DrmCom2003 3 месяца назад +11

      Social narrative's are created primarily due to Biology. I tend to refer to this as a Biological Narrative

    • @someguy403
      @someguy403 3 месяца назад +9

      @@DrmCom2003 Yeah, I'd agree. Culture comes from biology.

    • @michaelzell5905
      @michaelzell5905 3 месяца назад

      It's a post-truth simulation of the world.

    • @toxicmale2264
      @toxicmale2264 3 месяца назад

      Progressives? They have a creationist view of biology, even though they espouse evolution as their main religion.

    • @IAm-pi7kf
      @IAm-pi7kf 3 месяца назад +4

      ​@@someguy403culture has biological underpinnings,but can't be sufficiently or consistently downwardly reduced down to just biology. It's a known fact that the brain has solutions to problems which pop up in environments, and that the ways and methods of which it procures solutions to these problems/environments can only be alluded to through use of trends, which are subject to change, not to say we can't draw parallels which are practically useful in a certain number of replicable situations. If you think human beings are that predictable, we're not. We are stuck on this double sided hill, and it's fundamentally unknowable fully.

  • @grumpyoldman5567
    @grumpyoldman5567 3 месяца назад +25

    Agree, the left can be/is very sanctimonious. I've seen many decades long relationships unravel because of this. Good video, thanks.

  • @briannewman6216
    @briannewman6216 3 месяца назад +17

    Socialisation is a product of biology.
    Progressivism is basically a religeon. This is the most important thing to understand about progressivism.

    • @ninjacats1647
      @ninjacats1647 3 месяца назад

      Socialization is facilitated greatly by mirror neurons, that being that some parts of our biology play bigger roles in socialization than others. The surreal thing about mirror neurons is how easily it is to empirically test for oneself. Pick a television show, any television show and mirror the characters for an hour - you will literally absorb some of their personality quirks on an unconscious level - and you will sometimes feel stuff that you never felt before.
      Progressives are just another batch of obnoxious fire and brimstone types who rage whenever something that doesn't fit their world view is revealed. Like as you said, a form of secular religious fundamentalism. I find progressives to be extremely intellectually inflexible.

    • @postmodernmining
      @postmodernmining 3 месяца назад +3

      Basically? It's a branch of one of the oldest cults, Gnosticism.

    • @VD-cc4hx
      @VD-cc4hx 3 месяца назад

      its funny how all conservative arguments just bring up racism. we get it, you love hitler.

    • @user-cs4su3ng9l
      @user-cs4su3ng9l 3 месяца назад

      Religion how?

  • @Arejen03
    @Arejen03 3 месяца назад +50

    Rehab and Thinking-Ape post, what a friday

    • @ScrotusMaximus666
      @ScrotusMaximus666 3 месяца назад +2

      Who is Rehab?

    • @b1zzarecont4ct
      @b1zzarecont4ct 3 месяца назад +10

      @@ScrotusMaximus666 not as good as Ape but sometimes worth a listen-Rehab Room

    • @Jaapst
      @Jaapst 3 месяца назад

      @@b1zzarecont4ctdifferent then ape. I still found his incel tv channel more funny.

    • @me8751
      @me8751 3 месяца назад +2

      Just need Gerb, and the unholy trinity will be complete. 🔺

    • @Muhluri
      @Muhluri 3 месяца назад

      ​Nah we need dbdr@@me8751

  • @theguyonthecouch6109
    @theguyonthecouch6109 3 месяца назад +23

    So, if biology bears no factor in their beliefs then why is giving the child to the mother in a custody case considered to be "in the best interests of the child"?

    • @AjaxMavrick
      @AjaxMavrick 3 месяца назад +9

      I don't even fucking know

    • @sonicleaves
      @sonicleaves 3 месяца назад

      Great question, I don't know. I'm sure a lib couldn't answer this. They just say F you.

  • @joeschmoe3963
    @joeschmoe3963 3 месяца назад +143

    Warhammer was the last bastion of lore that hasnt been infected by the new western sphere of thought. Its over now bros :(

    • @Jonathan-Shadow
      @Jonathan-Shadow 3 месяца назад +46

      It’s over for *40Kcels*

    • @al-mungus677
      @al-mungus677 3 месяца назад +4

      I don't like the change of culture too but it has only been the people who have never played a game of tabletop coming out the woodworks to say they are upset even though we just got like 3 codex's in a month and emperor's children that where all pretty good.

    • @jebreggie4225
      @jebreggie4225 3 месяца назад

      ​@@al-mungus677 Thats probably because most Warhammer fans are consumer r*tards. it makes sense most of their whale fans wont criticize them because if they say they're done with the game what would they do with their massive armys. So GW can put out any slop and they will like it

    • @Bludgeta9001
      @Bludgeta9001 3 месяца назад +2

      Indies is the Wests last hope (not counting Eastern)

    • @DerUnglaublicheFrank
      @DerUnglaublicheFrank 3 месяца назад +19

      Fucking LMAO. Warhammer 40k has been infected for years, this is not new.

  • @allseeingotto2912
    @allseeingotto2912 3 месяца назад +66

    So basically the conclusion is what we already knew , that talking to the left is a waste of time and energy.

    • @MartymcFly-zz2pg
      @MartymcFly-zz2pg 3 месяца назад +1

      They only understand violence.

    • @nisamvise1724
      @nisamvise1724 3 месяца назад

      The right really isnt that much better if at all, all the things they accuse the left of doing plenty of them are guilty of too.

    • @iwannabethekid34xc
      @iwannabethekid34xc 3 месяца назад

      Yes because the root prognosis inherent to "Leftism" is in fact genetically based, not sociopolitical in nature. It is a result of mutational overload over several decades, older fathers, and a lack of selection pressure which was once common standard to our great grand parents. Usually when periods of this nature occur, our species overcorrects with culling, whether that be war or some other catastrophic loss of life. In any case, this is nothing good we should celebrate, we need to be properly motivated by fear, otherwise we too will get swept up in the aforementioned catastrophe. Freedom for most of human history has only meant the ability to defend ones ground and person from others. This has been drilled out of many young American brains, thus making us the most vulnerable sitting ducks on the face of the modern planet.

    • @-______________________
      @-______________________ 3 месяца назад

      Basically, talking to anyone about politics in any capacity is a waste of time. The right is JUST as stupid as the left.

    • @user-cs4su3ng9l
      @user-cs4su3ng9l 3 месяца назад +1

      Why?

  • @gamesandthoughts2388
    @gamesandthoughts2388 3 месяца назад +70

    Flesh is weak. It is flesh that is the root of all weakness.

    • @michaelzell5905
      @michaelzell5905 3 месяца назад +1

      Gotta eat! Right?

    • @ggrthemostgodless8713
      @ggrthemostgodless8713 3 месяца назад +6

      Root of al evil...

    • @bubblegumbabeface6629
      @bubblegumbabeface6629 3 месяца назад +2

      Truly silent hill levels in its cryptic ness

    • @Iron-Bridge
      @Iron-Bridge 3 месяца назад +3

      " Flesh is stronger than steel" -- Thulsa Doom

    • @hohenzollern6025
      @hohenzollern6025 3 месяца назад +3

      One day the crude biomass that you call a temple wither and fail you, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved.

  • @magneric
    @magneric 3 месяца назад +48

    I too, crave the certainty of steel.

    • @SSNESS
      @SSNESS 3 месяца назад

      We are XY 🧬 😅

    • @hohenzollern6025
      @hohenzollern6025 3 месяца назад +2

      @@SSNESS
      One day the crude biomass that you call a temple wither and fail you, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved.

  • @YouTubeOverrated
    @YouTubeOverrated 3 месяца назад +136

    The economy is great if you're rich. The economy is trash if you're poor. It's mediocre if you're middle class. All the money is traveling upwards, so overall it's doing terribly. It's not sustainable.

    • @ggrthemostgodless8713
      @ggrthemostgodless8713 3 месяца назад +3

      It's always trash if you are poor... the unasked question is WHY are you poor while others who started from your same EXTERNAL conditions in life are not poor anymore??
      Even now...Why not imitate what the rich, or the ones making money are doing???

    • @MogMonster87
      @MogMonster87 3 месяца назад +8

      The powerful will be ripped from their decadent nests, and cast out into the cold world we know and endure……The fire will rise brother, and out of the ashes a new and better world can be made

    • @algumapsssoaai
      @algumapsssoaai 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@MogMonster87Bane is br0000tal!!

    • @joniboi3699
      @joniboi3699 3 месяца назад +28

      ​@@ggrthemostgodless8713 Because it is a lack of ethics and respect that get you to the top. In this world you cannot climb without stepping on others. Some people may not take that route even if they have the option to. Some people also like to live by their own means. And some people never even stood a chance to begin with.
      In reality, the people at the very top are making the equivalent of a living income for several million people. One person's wealth will cause millions of others to lack a living wage. This isn't some "pull your bootstraps up sonny" sort of situation that you're making it out to be. This is a non-functional system that WILL collapse in the long term.

    • @MogMonster87
      @MogMonster87 3 месяца назад

      @@algumapsssoaai 🔥👌🏻🔥🧯🦇

  • @Raphy_Afk
    @Raphy_Afk 3 месяца назад +13

    Faith by definition isn't based on facts but on conviction. The problem emerges when believers pretend to have a scientific and rational approach to reality.

    • @mageman483
      @mageman483 3 месяца назад +6

      Lmao, "science"

    • @hebanker3372
      @hebanker3372 3 месяца назад

      How about merging science and religion? God/frontal lobe and Devil/reptilian brain? 😉

    • @Raphy_Afk
      @Raphy_Afk 3 месяца назад +2

      @@hebanker3372 That's already a doctrine believe it or not.
      That's a witchcraft thing, Alister Crowley taught that a human could bind demons by taking control of inner demons, which were associated with brain regions.
      I believe it's in a book called the keys of gematria or something

  • @carbon1479
    @carbon1479 3 месяца назад +9

    10:12 - I'm guessing having it be unfalsifiable is the point. The power game and the truth game only seem to occasionally overlap, most of the time the raw power game is showing other people how you can bend / distort reality and it's about proving to them that facts not only don't but can't matter.

  • @boondoggle4820
    @boondoggle4820 3 месяца назад +9

    What a thoughtful and intelligent approach to this conversation.

    • @VD-cc4hx
      @VD-cc4hx 3 месяца назад

      he just asked questions for 10 minutes. he added nothing.

  • @atlasjoe5689
    @atlasjoe5689 3 месяца назад +40

    The only thing i find more disturbing then what you say here is the shrinking patreon list at end of each video. Im bumping it to 65 a month. Without this Gem, the manosphere becomes ticktock reaction videos only.

  • @Music-gw4qf
    @Music-gw4qf 3 месяца назад +11

    Changing minds is like trying to change the weather.

  • @diegoyanesholtz212
    @diegoyanesholtz212 3 месяца назад +25

    I do think biology has the most affect on us, socialization can affect us, but is miniscule compared to biology and genes.

    • @barrydaemi6287
      @barrydaemi6287 3 месяца назад +6

      Socialization can have a profound effect on a person, so long as that person is in a conducive environment that reinforces said socialization.
      But if a person leave said conducive environment, their biological will slowly override their socialization for a more natural disposition.
      Socialization can win over genetic disposition, so as long as the necessary social engineering is present.
      But yes, outside this social engineering genetic is entirely superior, and always supercedes what was programmed before.

    • @rv.9658
      @rv.9658 3 месяца назад

      Your genetics matter more as you get older

    • @DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1
      @DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1 3 месяца назад +4

      I think biology and genes are shaped by the environment, the environment + biology and genes shape culture, then culture shapes biology, genes and the environment. They influence one another holistically.

    • @diegoyanesholtz212
      @diegoyanesholtz212 3 месяца назад +1

      @@DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1 I do think socialization can affect us positively or negatively, but is mostly gene and biology and yes they are intertwined with one other. Luck also plays a role, you can be a Chad and suffer an accident and guess what you are not a Chad anymore. Luck also plays a role.

  • @benjones1717
    @benjones1717 3 месяца назад +10

    The blank slate theory was a big deal amongst academics in the 70's but it's complete inability to achieve anything left to it falling out of favor. But it's incredible usefulness for virtue signalling, means it is now being weaponized.

    • @ericp0012
      @ericp0012 3 месяца назад +5

      (Classical) Liberals be like, “We are all blank slates because of muh individualism.”

  • @quin2203
    @quin2203 3 месяца назад +47

    But did African slaves suffer more than they would in Africa?
    Also consider that African slaves were only a part of the US for less than a century.
    Plenty of us have slave ancestors, yet only this group is acknowledged.

    • @realistic_delinquent
      @realistic_delinquent 3 месяца назад +19

      The context that the people sourced and sold into slavery by black tribesmen in Africa were the subjects of brutal conquest, and that the alternative to slavery was torture followed by execution, is lost on contemporary historians.

    • @allseeingotto2912
      @allseeingotto2912 3 месяца назад +6

      Only YT peoples involvement in slavery is the only one held under any scrutiny.

    • @SteveJones379
      @SteveJones379 3 месяца назад

      @quin2203 What's your point?

    • @Muhluri
      @Muhluri 3 месяца назад +1

      Well, then you better start protesting about it

    • @nisamvise1724
      @nisamvise1724 3 месяца назад +3

      For less than a century? What? Also jim crow has to be taken into consideration.

  • @GjVj
    @GjVj 3 месяца назад +10

    I'm surprised you still attempt to engage with these (for want of a better word) people. There's no dialogue to be had. There's no good faith debate - it was never about that - it's simply about power. It's just a matter of who's going to be up against the wall, or kneeling in front of a ditch, and when.

    • @longhitter1566
      @longhitter1566 3 месяца назад +4

      Indeed! A read of Nietzsche's Will to Power will provide some profound insights for all to ponder.

  • @BlastHardcheeseable
    @BlastHardcheeseable 3 месяца назад +8

    Your belief that we are animals is 100% surplus to requirements. Humans are animals. It's a fact, as solidly demonstrated as the existence of gravity.

    • @Rexhunterj
      @Rexhunterj 3 месяца назад +4

      Might be a fact but most HUMANs dont think they are animals, they THINK they are above animals for some reason, ignoring that they were really lucky to be born as a human and say, not a mouse.

    • @fernandoorozco5968
      @fernandoorozco5968 3 месяца назад

      @@Rexhunterj True

  • @domm6812
    @domm6812 3 месяца назад +5

    Biologist here. Our behaviour and preferences are absolutely affected by our biology. There's no doubt about it. To say that it's all social conditioning is ignoring so much of what we know about biology. Granted, humans are one of the most "programmable" species to have ever existed, but we're not immune to innate programming and the influence of our hormones etc. Think of the mood swings that some women get during their time of the month ....and then realise that we're all controlled by those factors all of the time. You just don't notice it because it's always there and you're used to it. Men and women. Whether your body produces a lower or higher amount of developmental hormones when you're growing up can drastically change how you end up behaving later in life. You can modify behaviour with self control and conditioning but that doesn't mean the underlying differences aren't there, and that exertion of effort (conscious or not) isn't needed to maintain a lot of the changes. A lot of these hyper progressives are the new puritan zealots ....their belief overriding all, paying no heed to science or indeed, just evidence, and woe to anyone who dares challenged their belief.

  • @asghaa
    @asghaa 3 месяца назад +10

    I think you make a basic assumption mistake. You believe the others who have other opinions than yourself base it on proof. Their whole belief system is based on the idea that proof is not needed in order to have that belief. Otherwise you wouldent need to have this discussion with them. And since they dont need any proof to sustain their ideas, its a waste of time to have a discussion.

  • @KornySerialKiller
    @KornySerialKiller 2 месяца назад +1

    I have experience dealing with the "finatic" or "zealot" mind, I grew up in a household like that after all. I've seen the positions held by these people wane and change over the years. (Hey people have every right to do that) however, I never hear a concession that they were ever wrong. I've a natural good defense against radicalized thinking, but I don't know where I sit in the "political spectrum"(nor do I really care) yet I keep finding myself trying to reason with people who simply won't be reasoned with. It's all or nothing. And when(eventually) their prayers fail, instead of realizing something, it's the ENTIRE WORLD or "unseen evils" has to be against them. There's never a thought of "maybe I'm wrong" and it's frustrating to deal with tbh. Which brings me to the question of how much of this religion is holding them together? Do they need it to survive? To not suffer a psychological break? Is it mental illness that prevents them from seeing the truth? A comfortable lie they tell themselves in order to keep whatever sanity they have held together with glue and duct tape?
    My mother has brain cancer,yet her belief in this God figure has gotten to the level of some "Heavens Gate" or "Jonestown" stuff. It's absolutely insane,the things I hear coming from her mouth, alluvasudden saying a cuss word is "summoning a literal curse" upon her. When all of her speaking in tongues and worship didn't work and her cancer was still there (unsurprisingly) it's not that "magic" isn't real.. it's that this "God" figure is simply testing her. She's losing her mind over this, I just hope she doesn't stop doing her treatments because she gets a wild idea to "fully lean into God", it's already horrifying seeing what I'm seeing, I can't imagine how I'd react to her doing that to herself. She's a sick woman, the tumors are really messing with her. Yet religion actually gets talked about in a serious manner,when the stakes are this high,the life or death of the woman that brought me into this world is treated as some kinda "test".. it's sickening.. disgusting..
    I don't know if I can save her,do I remain true to myself and try to battle her? My rationality vs her "Faith"? Or do I adopt a mask and attempt to subtly influence her actions by saying "God told me X, therefore you should do it." Either way,both these scenarios feel...wrong.. I'm either fighting an uphill battle by being truthful and honest. Or I'm a manipulative lying sack of 💩.

  • @LitCentralMillennialXLIII
    @LitCentralMillennialXLIII 3 месяца назад +8

    All the thinking and contemplating I do, it always end at I don’t know.

    • @wazigemattie
      @wazigemattie 3 месяца назад +2

      tryed meditation.... dont knowing....is our main mindset.

  • @07wrxtr1
    @07wrxtr1 3 месяца назад +3

    R vs K selection theory by Stephan Molyneux has nailed this topic if you can find the video…

  • @Torgo1969
    @Torgo1969 3 месяца назад +1

    "If our beliefs about the nature of reality serve to minimize death anxiety, then whenever we encounter people who do not share our beliefs, whether we are aware of it or not, we have a problem. Because if we accept the validity of an alternative conception of reality, we necessarily do so by undermining the confidence with which we subscribe to our own beliefs. And once that happens, we expose ourselves to the very anxiety that our beliefs were erected to diminish in the first place." - Sheldon Solomon

  • @maxsimon36
    @maxsimon36 3 месяца назад +11

    Normy comfort in the enforced herd morality has been routinely protected via algorithms, so your investigation into the progressive mind wont reveal any inherent capabilities of them observing reality from this entrallment. Comfort is their priority not curiousity. Its even why you pursued this course carefully.

    • @VD-cc4hx
      @VD-cc4hx 3 месяца назад

      lol. u r not smart. you are being lied to. he is just ranting so you morons will pay for his pointless content. YOU ARE BEING TRACKED ON GOOGLE AND RUclips. YOU ARE IN THE ALGORITHUM. YOU ARE BEING ADVERTISED TO. SUCKERRRRRR

  • @hairlines_on_fire
    @hairlines_on_fire 3 месяца назад +16

    There can be miracles
    When you believe
    Though hope is frail, it's hard to kill
    Who knows what miracles you can achieve?
    When you believe, somehow you will
    You will when you believe

    • @triggeringsmuganimepfp7611
      @triggeringsmuganimepfp7611 3 месяца назад +2

      Bro, I like this song. pls kill me lol

    • @dwsel
      @dwsel 3 месяца назад

      Prince of Egypt animation. Belief is a prerequisite for taking any action. Outcomes can vary based on how well our beliefs align with reality.

  • @RetireandGo
    @RetireandGo 3 месяца назад +9

    AI is both facinating and frightening. i just dont know what we will do with all the people who lose thier jobs to it. 100 million maybe? im concerned

    • @AthenaTheWolf
      @AthenaTheWolf 3 месяца назад +9

      look into post-labor economics. I think the movie Ready Player One and Wall-E is close to what the future will look like

    • @GjVj
      @GjVj 3 месяца назад +2

      Already taken care of. What d'you think the jibby-jab was for?

    • @VD-cc4hx
      @VD-cc4hx 3 месяца назад

      what happens when companies realize that ai sucks and needs human intervention/help? the only option is hiring people. im not worried.

    • @VD-cc4hx
      @VD-cc4hx 3 месяца назад

      @@GjVj how does covid relate to ai?????? wtf you on about grandpa

    • @GjVj
      @GjVj 3 месяца назад

      @@VD-cc4hx Eliminating the population made obsolete by AI, dummy.

  • @Enthusedsock
    @Enthusedsock 3 месяца назад +2

    Comment for the algo.
    Why does it follow that the physical size of creation has anything to do with the viability of a creator being concerned with the created beings within?
    I reckon a limited creator would only be able to pay attention to a finite amount of things.
    But an unlimited creator could pay attention to all things across time all at once.
    We're also assuming that space is indeed not fake and not gay.

  • @hongolloyd8728
    @hongolloyd8728 3 месяца назад +3

    I drank the koolaid and died inside.

  • @markobozovic7805
    @markobozovic7805 3 месяца назад +3

    If most people had this idea in the back of their mind that they might be wrong about the certain issues we wouldn't have so much wars, we wouldn't be so mean to eachother, and science would take priority over everything and people would think more critically and more long term making better decisions for the humanity.
    Confidence used to be a good thing in the past where you were the alpha of the tribe trying to take more for yourself and for your family and tribes.
    However in this point of history and time critical long term thinking just has to take priority over excessive confidence in your own ideology, but from the looks of it, the opposite is happening.
    We've allocated all the important roles of decision making to the most primal ape like thinking individuals while the most intelligent people create tools for them to destroy humanity.

  • @guygadbois3010
    @guygadbois3010 3 месяца назад

    You may want to balance things out by listening to Dr. Gad Saad's talk wih Zuby titled "Why Woke Liberals Will Always Lose" where there's some talk of evoluationary biology and how that impacts gender roles.

  • @DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1
    @DiscipleOfHeavyMeta1 3 месяца назад

    3:55 The question that I'm asking right now is how much culture has shaped biology - especially epigenetics, over the course of human history.

  • @InstantGiblets
    @InstantGiblets 3 месяца назад

    I believe I’ve already stubbed my toe as hard as I will ever will. Please god let that be true.

  • @KreysHealth
    @KreysHealth 3 месяца назад

    Im black and suffer from high anxiety for no reason. I believe slavery could have something to do with that as in effecting how my brain process life through dna. I forgot the term

    • @yoyo762
      @yoyo762 3 месяца назад

      I'm white and whites were slaves much longer in history than blacks ever were. I think that bothers me mentally.

  • @Dem0n1c_S0ld1er
    @Dem0n1c_S0ld1er 3 месяца назад +1

    Omnissiah be praised

  • @jaredangell8472
    @jaredangell8472 3 месяца назад +2

    You're spinning your wheels

    • @VD-cc4hx
      @VD-cc4hx 3 месяца назад

      average nazi opinion:

  • @jelle6325
    @jelle6325 3 месяца назад

    It's essentially the same old nature vs nurture debate, supercharged by modern dogmatic tribalism. As usual the absolutist position has no room for nuanced understanding.

  • @bulletsforteeth5029
    @bulletsforteeth5029 3 месяца назад +11

    MGTOW is about saving yourself, not about saving other Men in a MRA group think cult.

  • @patrickgrengs7594
    @patrickgrengs7594 3 месяца назад +1

    The value of a belief is found in the objectively measurable results generated in the exercise of that belief. How well does the belief comport with reality? Is it grounded in reality or is it a free-floating bit of unfalsifiable feel-good fluff? Carrying a belief requires the expending of some measure of resources. Mentally checking the quality of a belief is straightforward -- just ask the question "how's that working for you?" Example: my parents believe that their children have an obligation to periodically call and visit them. And yet, my sister does neither. I ask my parents "how is that belief working for you?" This upsets them and yet they hold strong to that belief, in spite of its being untethered to reality. Another Example: look at the emotion-driven climate-change-alarmist ... this person shovels years of their life into defending The State Narrative -- only much later, they discover the deceit and look back on their lost youth -- self-medication to cover their loss is one remedy -- one of many methods to create a drunk. It's far easier for The State to create and peddle a Narrative that convinces the young to throw their lives away than it is to actually build gulags. I believe that I will climb some mountains in the Pacific Northwest next weekend and enjoy a few Chinese Buffets with birds-of-a-feather . . . climbing a large bit of rock covered with snow and ice -- literally grounded in Earthly Reality. Cheers.

    • @VD-cc4hx
      @VD-cc4hx 3 месяца назад

      " It's far easier for The State to create and peddle a Narrative that convinces the young to throw their lives away than it is to actually build gulags" so... wars are good? lol. i bet you love the veterans that fought for our country, but wait. those verterans were lied to, and brainwashed into thinking killing people is ok just because the govt approves it. now who is being brainwashed here?
      btw climate activists are not paid for. in fact, academia shuts down studies because big pharma/govt/tech doesnt care. you can buy solar right now, and its cheap. companies only care about solar in order for THEM to make money. you can be anti-oil by being solar. its easier and cheaper. you are being controlled. you are being advertised to. you fell for it.

  • @vryc
    @vryc 3 месяца назад

    To be fair, people can't really update or change their beliefs in real time. Much like true learning, it's a glacial thing. Epiphanies are the rare RARE exception, not the rule. Changing one's beliefs is a quiet thing and often sneaks up on you without you even being aware of it. And, it's often DEEPLY uncomfortable. I don't begrudge people not being able to change within whatever timeframe I may want/wish them to. I can't.

  • @7fall
    @7fall 3 месяца назад

    the audio is so bad in this- I’d like to hear your thoughts but every word is cut in half

  • @williamharper6625
    @williamharper6625 3 месяца назад

    There are some videos I watched from the channel "What is politcs?" The owner of the channel is left wing. However, I did finally get one good theory on how patriarchy came in. It not perfect, however it seems more posable to the "we are just equal but men just dominated women" narrative. One condition that may have gave men an advantage in power dynamics was animal husbandry. It put the interest of those societies on men having groups and later authorities. I do think he was not getting into how the sexual dimorphism happens in the first place. However dispite that it seems more sound than many other theories. He also gets into how feminism came up as, communication technology (like the phone) help women start networks. I think he also got into the pill and household compliance as othere technologies that helped give an advantage.
    It would be interesting to see you talk with him. Heads up he is a lawyer, if you plan to debate him.

    • @hebanker3372
      @hebanker3372 3 месяца назад

      Patriarchy was born when the agrarian revolution demolished tribal, communal possession of resources, including women. It was also when the nuclear family was born.

  • @Peter_Parker69
    @Peter_Parker69 3 месяца назад

    You're patient. When Steven Pinker got nowhere with them back before everything got polarized, there's zero hope now.

  • @sixstringerati
    @sixstringerati 3 месяца назад

    FYI, UT keeps unsubscribing me, at least 10 times in past 6 months. Also interjects advertisements that have nothing to do with what your viewers interests, intended to annoy. Other utubers (other channels) have mentioned this. personnel

  • @The_prophet02
    @The_prophet02 3 месяца назад

    I like your channel but, we may act like animals and have some similarities to apes but, I don’t think we are animals I studied this profoundly although I respect your opinion sir.

  • @bruceknee4941
    @bruceknee4941 3 месяца назад

    It's biologically advantageous to either believe in equality or else to be an NPC and believe in equality because you were taught it. Which possibility is true I am not certain. But if it isn't biology causing them to think this way then the only other possibility is rigid socialization from when they were kids. After all, what you're describing is basically new england puritanism but degraded.

    • @user-cs4su3ng9l
      @user-cs4su3ng9l 3 месяца назад

      Humans have five moral foundations there is three moral foundations to advance your ethnic group: sanctity, obedience to proper authority, in-group loyalty; and there is two moral foundations to advance yourself within your ethnic group: Fairness/equality, harm avoidance; NPCs are mindlessly devoted to the two moral foundations that allow them to advance themselves while ignoring or despising those that advance their ethnic group meanwhile ordinary people are devoted to all five in more or less equal measure this creates a situation where ordinary people sort of understand where NPCs are coming from since ordinary people care about equality and harm avoidance too meanwhile NPCs can not even comprehend the fact that ordinary people believe their ethnic group to be unique beautiful and inherently worthy of survival which means ordinary people must be evil
      Tldr:Npcs hate you because they do not share you moral pillars since sharing those pillars would require them to take a pause from being ruthless social climbers endlessly hungry for unearned money and unwarranted influence

  • @iconoclastic23
    @iconoclastic23 3 месяца назад

    To deny that behavioral traits and preferences are heritable seems extremely silly.

  • @smoothinvestigator
    @smoothinvestigator 3 месяца назад

    You're forgetting that many beliefs are held unconsciously.

  • @Vapourwear
    @Vapourwear 3 месяца назад

    Is that thumbnail A(I)dmech?

  • @lord.of_iron
    @lord.of_iron 3 месяца назад +1

    Aside from your experimental endeavors with the progressive loons, Sir Lord Ape, have you considered engaging a bit more with the Christians that are more in tune with this subject matter? I've seen more productive discussions from people like Andrew Wilson as of late. It seems pertinent to me if we are to attempt to find solutions, although I could be misguided in that thought.

    • @hebanker3372
      @hebanker3372 3 месяца назад

      He already did. He had a talk with the Distributist on this channel.

    • @VD-cc4hx
      @VD-cc4hx 3 месяца назад

      @@hebanker3372 i knew it. fake people. fake ideology. ape is lying to everyone in his intro. you all buy into this stuff.

  • @mick21778
    @mick21778 3 месяца назад

    Gestalt, love that word. This world is not that place. This place is fem or masc, red or blue, orange or green, Freud or Jung, one or the other. There must never be the wisdom that supports the true beauty of anythings complexity as a miracle mix of both in different amounts.

  • @graysonhill
    @graysonhill 3 месяца назад

    Bonhoeffer's Theory of Stupidity.

  • @davidpitchford6510
    @davidpitchford6510 3 месяца назад

    ted Kaczynski in his Manifesto had a few insights into the "progressive" mind.

    • @VD-cc4hx
      @VD-cc4hx 3 месяца назад

      you look up to that maniac? go outside man.

    • @user-cs4su3ng9l
      @user-cs4su3ng9l 3 месяца назад

      Should I read it? Were there even regressives back then?

  • @darthbicycle4365
    @darthbicycle4365 3 месяца назад

    We in the west are ideological the same way the soviets were.

  • @LOUDMOUTHTYRONE
    @LOUDMOUTHTYRONE 3 месяца назад

    Do you know Andrew Wilson(The Crucible)?

    • @nogoodusernames100
      @nogoodusernames100 3 месяца назад +3

      I'll never get between a man and his copes, but he is selling young men a false bill of goods with his trad and orthodox nonsense. I think the young guys that watch him are on their red pill rage stage and like to see him yell at OF girls. But eventually they'll get tired of that and move on to something better.

    • @VD-cc4hx
      @VD-cc4hx 3 месяца назад +1

      @@nogoodusernames100 fr. finally someone with a brain in the comments. thank you.

  • @coolmancoolman164
    @coolmancoolman164 3 месяца назад

    💫

  • @CollegeDroputPowerpoints
    @CollegeDroputPowerpoints 3 месяца назад

    "I believe we are animals"
    I saw 2 girls 1 cup in driving school dont worry, thats not a belief

  • @_Terminus_
    @_Terminus_ 3 месяца назад

    🎉🎉🎉

  • @city_of_coompton6832
    @city_of_coompton6832 3 месяца назад

    Stardusk should check out a book "Fire in the Minds of Men: Origins of the Revolutionary Faith" by James Billington if he's interested in the history of progressive ideology. TL;DR it was never rational it was mixed with occultist woo woo nonsense from the very beginning

  • @ranfan1820
    @ranfan1820 3 месяца назад

    I was JUST SITTING THERE and i saw a new stardusk video

  • @mrman7849
    @mrman7849 3 месяца назад +1

    Irreligious people will wrongly tell you there is no biological difference between men and women while religious people will rightly tell you there is but only because God made it that way. The irony of the times.

    • @johnlesoudeur3653
      @johnlesoudeur3653 3 месяца назад

      Don't be silly, I would say that most atheists clearly accept that there are clear biological and conditional differences between the two sexes. Some religions will blur the differences..."Norse gods were capable of changing gender at will, for example Loki, frequently disguised himself as a woman and gave birth to a foal while in the form of a white mare, after a sexual encounter with the stallion Svaðilfari."

  • @rocketroomba930
    @rocketroomba930 3 месяца назад +4

    well it’s pretty obvious that its some sort of mix. Women are more likely to desire social jobs in which you care or mentor others. this is probably because women are, biologically speaking, gonna have more empathy. I think its the same thing with men and physically jobs. its the male evolutionary benefit to chase physical jobs. the socialization, i believe, simply further specifies which route they may take. Due to, usually financial constraints, a woman may work at a daycare instead of a nurse. Both jobs aline with women’s biological biases towards care work, but are separated by educational opportunities, and money. Same with men and something like working as a low level maintenance man vs owing a whole plumbing business. Men and women have biological biases towards different profession types, and their financial opportunities decided at which level they can peruse these professions. i don’t believe racism or sexism plays as big a role in this conversation as the socioeconomic disparity we see today does. Just more reason we need to take more money from the 1% and give it to social programs which give poor people the opportunity for better jobs and education.

    • @triggeringsmuganimepfp7611
      @triggeringsmuganimepfp7611 3 месяца назад +3

      Taxation of the 1% doesn't work because the money keeps flowing back to them eventually. They have more resources to devise systems who benefit them. This is what power is, and why it is more important than money.

    • @rocketroomba930
      @rocketroomba930 3 месяца назад

      @@triggeringsmuganimepfp7611 thats why its important to properly allocate their funds. if their money goes to government programs which create jobs, then it wouldn’t get back to them, it would go into those programs

    • @excalibro8365
      @excalibro8365 3 месяца назад +3

      I don't think women have more empathy, at least towards men. Even their lack of physical strength is negated by the fact that they can hurt in a much more inconspicuous and effective way by emotional manipulation.

    • @Bryce433
      @Bryce433 3 месяца назад +1

      That's really funny that you think taking from those at the top will help balance things out. The pareto distribution will always win, and nothing will ever be equal. Those at the bottom at this point are long overdue for Darwinism to make a comeback. They've been able to stave it off humanity for awhile with medicine, but I think it's collection time.

    • @rocketroomba930
      @rocketroomba930 3 месяца назад

      @@excalibro8365 im really sorry, but you are just factually incorrect. im not talking about dumb tiktok women, im talking about normal women like mothers and wives. they are objectively more empathetic and emotionally mature

  • @zigzogoid4591
    @zigzogoid4591 3 месяца назад

    'Progressive'? More like 'Regressive'

  • @father042
    @father042 3 месяца назад

    This is all a result of blank slate theory, one of the worst theories in human history

  • @lakecityransom
    @lakecityransom 3 месяца назад +1

    I'd be wiling to call you a centrist, you seem to see all angles and reason and the need to bend on things. Great radio voice for this rough content! 😆

  • @pugsymalone6539
    @pugsymalone6539 3 месяца назад

    An old friend of mine once said: Religion is like Super-Heroes. People are like, "Yeah, Spider-Man and Batman are great...but I have a PERSONAL relationship with Superman." It's absurd, he said, to believe in someone or something you cannot see or touch, or which you know is a construct created to exercise control or to distract.

  • @Lichnaya_pravda
    @Lichnaya_pravda 3 месяца назад

    Progressives are correct. Because on the large time scale, future is always better... for the ones who win and survive.

    • @VD-cc4hx
      @VD-cc4hx 3 месяца назад

      i want to live forever as a robot cyborg. jesus is not going to help me achieve that, so im a liberal. i refuse to believe in a political system that sides with religious bigots like christians who dont mind wiping out large groups of people for their own twisted goals... as shown in this video and in the comments with mgtow. i am a real person typing this. i believe in a future with no wars, because the people who start wars will be gone. there is noone left alive in a world thats too polluted to breathe.

  • @BrianReplies
    @BrianReplies 3 месяца назад +4

    I’m a “true believer” Christian religious fundamentalist. I believe that it’s essentially impossible for the book of Luke and the Book of Acts to behave come into existence of Jesus did not supernaturally rise from the dead.
    So yes…I believe that a Creator God decided to make a massive universe with trillions of star systems….and he focuses his attention here. For now. Because I think this is just the starting point. The stars exist because it was predestined that humanity will colonize them. We have been chosen to ultimate engage in a crusade to claim the stars. I believe that. BUT…
    I will admit that it’s POSSIBLE that I am wrong and when I close my eyes in death it will just be blackness. And I won’t know it because I won’t exist anymore.
    Could happen. Almost certainly won’t be the case.

    • @electrodynamicorb6548
      @electrodynamicorb6548 3 месяца назад

      You’re delusional

    • @CopingDoom
      @CopingDoom 3 месяца назад

      Kee coping old man, if you dont remember anything before you came to this world the same will happen after you body starts to deteriorate. Anything you see like visions will be the brain easy you with the process of the end and body shutting down

    • @CopingDoom
      @CopingDoom 3 месяца назад

      That's why the body may die but the brain is still active for another 10 minutes. All recorded science and data, factual, no supernatural element.

    • @audie-cashstack-uk4881
      @audie-cashstack-uk4881 3 месяца назад

      It's imaginary and progressive to think we live in a accident universe working on trillions of perfectly lined laws and mechanics it's sane to believe we are created and so is the universe we are in also your not geting what tuhe universe is its the furderment the never ending prison wall keeping us dumb maybe we are to explore it and one day pass it

    • @b1zzarecont4ct
      @b1zzarecont4ct 3 месяца назад +3

      Christianity lore is so garbage

  • @philmitchel405
    @philmitchel405 3 месяца назад

    As a true believer in the horror of that vanishing patreon list, id like to suggest to everyone that 5 bucks from every commentator here would literally solve SD monthly bill probably. Germany is getting hit hard.

  • @Simple_Minded
    @Simple_Minded 3 месяца назад

    tbh i sometimes don't really understand what are you aiming for.
    maybe i just dont understand you, i guess that's fair enough.

    • @lol69203
      @lol69203 3 месяца назад

      He has no aims, or solutions with his topics. He just talks about it for its own sake and youtube/patreon bucks.

    • @Simple_Minded
      @Simple_Minded 3 месяца назад

      @@lol69203 i mean that is fair.
      i guess i kinda refuse to believe that sometimes, i do think there has to be some other aims.

  • @11-AisexualsforGod-11
    @11-AisexualsforGod-11 3 месяца назад

    It is down right absurd to suggest our status as 1st world white men to be not privlaged..
    And its actually a miracle we havent yet been overtaken by our colonized

    • @bludclone
      @bludclone 3 месяца назад +3

      You should be happy we're in the process of being colonized again and our birth rates are plumetting

    • @Bryce433
      @Bryce433 3 месяца назад

      We are currently being colonized lol look at how diversity is a strength

    • @hebanker3372
      @hebanker3372 3 месяца назад

      @@bludclone Al Andalus 2.0