I was planning on playing other factions, like the Shadow Dragon but the “adopted by a military family killed it for me”. Then I saw Mournwatch and like…Whaaaaat that backstory is cool as fuck. The only downside is I kinda hate the “aspirational armour” compared to the other factions. AH!
Backgrounds sounds cool, especially the Mourn Watch one but I do wish all the backgrounds weren’t just the same as each respective new party member. In Inquisition, you were the only Dalish representation cause Sera and Solas were weirdos and even as a fellow Qunari, you were a Tal Vashoth to Bull’s acting member of the Ben Hassrath.
Yeah. When i heard the backgrounds, i immediately checked and they're the same except for harding. Maybe they want rook to have a standing in one of the factions from the get go, not like a complete unknown which i prefer
in dai a player character qunari is a Vashoth, someone born outside the qun. Tal vashoth are qunari that rebel against the qun, some qunari in the qun lump them together though. if i remember correctly theres even some unique dialog about it if you're a qunari and bull becomes a tal vashoth
The game has an emphasis on building reputation with each faction. It also gives us grounding/a defined history in the game. it affects dialog choices as well. It wouldnt make any sense to be the one and only dalish or any "unique" faction. I love Inquisition, but rarely did the player's background seem to matter. And this time around, it does look like it matters.
@@inkygreen they’re half-doing the origins from DAO. The difference is that if you’re a dwarf noble in DAO, when you go back to orzammar u had history with bhelen and the society etc. in the veilguard people of that certain faction know you, but you don’t know them
My gosh I’m gonna cry. The HAIR. I have always wanted my Dalish Inky to have a mess of Merida style Red Curls, of course that wasn’t an option (before you say mods I’m a console player). Seeing that option just makes me so damn happy.
Me too. It works for some of them, but not all. The Shadow Dragon Rook is adopted into a family and the Antivan Crows Rook is part of the de Riva House. But the Grey Warden has to be Thorne? I mean it's a cool name, but it's a very human name.
@@krasmasov6852 I mean kinda but Qunari don't have last names, Elves take their surnames from somewhere else usually clan, Thorne sounds very Dwarven as well. There also could be more background to your last name depending on your race.
I wonder how different playing as a Warden will be, compared to the other factions. Since there's a lot of blight involved, blight has "changed" and we also can't forget that Solas always vocally disliked wardens. I hope this is all reflected in a warden Rook playthrough.
The only difference there will be is Warden Rook will get the option to choose Warden-specific answers in dialogue when they talk about the blight or the Wardens themselves in the story.
Which group do they not fit in aside from Veil Jumpers? Qunari and dwarf is a little weird for Mournwatch but the origin is "baby found in crypt" so it kind of does
Now I'm doubley confused as to why these backstories aren't playable. It's clear more thought and care went into them than the Inquisitor's backstory, with a common theme of going against our faction's leaders and being forced to leave. I just greatly want to see origins make a comeback, as it was easily the best part of Origins. This seems so close, and yet still so far
Yeah, it would be nice. But as Bioware said many years ago, most players of DAO didn't even finish the game once, and almost no one did more than one origin story. So the vast majority of players not only didn't see all the game, they only saw one origin and therefore all the work on different origins and how they played out later in the game was, from a purely practical perspective, a waste of development time and money. And it would be a better use of both to make stuff all players will see. Sad but true.
Those afro textures are MUAH!!!!!! They did a good job. If afro textures are on point I know everything else will be. Human/ Lords of Foutune/ Rogue/ Romancing Davrin.--- First play through
@Paulo-go5vo Yes!!!!! And the Afro styles are all cute!!!!! I even saw my favorite signature afro style. So I think I know what I'll be choosing for hair already.
I guess its my own fault for theory crafting my own backgrounds before official word. It would have been to give us extra background options for a more varied experience. I'll just have to retcon some details in my own head to make my own story make sense
with the exception of mourn watch the background covers very little time really only consisting of the last few months to couple years before needing to step away from their respective faction.
Yea I definitely wasn't expecting found as a baby inside a crypt by undead then being a war hero in a zombie civil war lol It sounds like the background for someone in the anime "Bastard!!"
At first I wasnt interested in the mourn watch, but that backstory..... i honestly think is the best one , and matches the backstory i made myself for my BG3 character in some ways, so i´ll defenetly play that one for one of my playthroughts (the evil run or as evil as the game lets you be XD) As a fun note, i searched the last names of the different rooks, to see if they meant something in other lenguages and i found this (if im wrong in anyone or in all of them please correct me) Ingelvar means angel (Norwegian) De Riva means from the shore (italian) Laidir means Strong (Scottish Gaelic) Mercar means Purchase (Galician) Aldwir means Called (Welsh)
Ingelvar is completely made up, definitely does not mean angel in norwegian, I guarantee you that. It could be close to Ingvar, which is said to be mean warrior or army, but it isn't a translation. The closest you could get is engel, which means angel in norwegian. You could argue as old norwegian you could write it as Ingel instead of Engel, but even then you still have "var" at the end
The Shadow Dragon Rook being an adopted child gives a chance for your true lineage being something really interesting. Maybe a human Rook is the bastard of the Archon or something like that.
Thank you for this first look at the CC! Everything sounds and looks pretty great so far! ✨️ (I only wish the option to come from a family of magisters was a thing 🥲 I had been hoping for this option since we knew we'd start in Tevinter... especially being a mage who joined the Shadow Dragons to fight against what their family stands for, more or less, was what I would have liked to see. Edit: And a connection to Dorian's and Maevaris' Lucerni would have been the cherry on top - but oh well! I've got some Rook concept back-up plans which work with what we got)
Veil Jumpers all the way for me. Thats pretty much how I roleplay in most rpgs anyways. Seeking out and researching ancient artifacts of past civilizations.
this video helped me to ground and flesh out some of my rook ideas, thank u so far I have a lord of fortune kinda a indiana jones type and a witcher-ish grey warden
It is so refreshing to find a video and players that show excitement towards this game as opposed to all the negativity in so many other Veilguard videos.
I am surprised that there was an attempt, no matter how anemic, to give us body size options. I was going to try for a fat and pampered Tevinter Magister who was a Shadow Dragon anti-slavery advocate.
I know the sliders dont go far enough, but the fact that we have them means Modders will be able to break their limits. I also wasnt expecting body sliders, but its such a nice detail to have more diverse options in CC. even if, at the same time, they could be even better than they are now
I appreciate more info on the Lords of Fortune option. I feel like they’ve been mostly overlooked outside of Tevinter Nights and Absolution (and even then, it wasn’t much.) I love that they aren’t just the “I’m Here For The Money” faction, but do see value in recovering old treasured artifacts and helping the people they belong to. My read is that Merrill would definitely vibe with them. I get the feeling if there is anything like the British Museum in Minrathous, Taash will be outraged, and I now have a new item on my DATV hope list. I also love that all the factions sound cool, it means I can easily and enjoyably play six times and see new content each time, possibly more if you have some less conventional combinations like a qunari mage Warden or a dwarf Mourn Watch member. I’m going to guess that Veil Jumpers will be popular with lore nerds, Wardens will be popular with DAO fans, and the Shadow Dragons will be popular with people who are more casual fans and mostly just remember the events of DAI.
Hmm so the choices that we'll make at the beginning of the game only regard Inquisition...(refering to the little blurb on the right of the character that appears at the beginning of the video) If that's true that's...a little disappointing to not have decisions from Orgins and 2 matter :/
@@MammothMorals Updates on who we chose as king of Ferelden? Also means no chance to potentially see Fenris again since he couldve died or sold to a magister in DA2
@@shard4756 considering the game doesn't take place in ferelden its unlikely we'll see them anyway and inquisition showed that anyway. Leliana could die in origins but they still brought her back in inquisition. they could do the same with fenris, it's been long enough in game for them not to need to explain it.
@@MammothMorals im not expecting to see them. But seeing as how they dont ask about origins choices means they probably wont even refrence who is king in codexs or dialogue. They could force a canon on certain characters fates, but that pissed off a lot of ppl in Inquisition
@@shard4756 Leliana being alive wasn't a forced cannon. if shes harded and doesn't become divine at the end of inquisition, she has a unique ending were she disappears into a flock of crows suggesting that she's alive due to magical means.
Surnames were a concern for me since they were going to be faction locked and not lineage. Four of the surnames are all very ambiguous and definitely work well for any lineage. On that note, de Riva gets a pass from me because of Lore. So that’s five. Unfortunately, Thorne I feel is still a bit too Human leaning.
Thorne fits for humans and dwarves. Qunari don't have last names so they might explain how they get it and elves usually take their surnames from something around them like their clan so we might get an explanation.
chosing faction in this game is honestly one of the hardest things so many amazing choices and each faction so interesting for different reasons it's tortureeeeeeee 💜
I have to say that I'm a bit disappointed with all the backgrounds having a similar moral standard. They all seem to be Robinhood archetypes. This along with what was said about bloodmagic makes me worry about the depth of roleplay.
Exactly! All of them are similarly "heroic" and leave no room for roleplaying whatsoever. They seem so lazily written, very disappointed... I don't want my Antivan Crow Rook to be a typical selfless hero.
@tristankik6223 that isn't true at all. None of the games set you up with a back story that has your character make moral choices before you take over and especially the same moral choices across every single backstory.
@@tristankik6223you can be less chaotic stupid and more pragmatic in dao, in da2 you have some good horrible choices, in dai welp i cant really remember, inquisitor don't have interesting choices. But most importantly - backstory in all games before dav very ambiguous (da2/dai) or you can roleplay in them(dao). In dav, backstory railroad to play is chaotic good, for rpg this really bad choice
@@CC-of5xl In dragon age orgins if your an city elf, your getting married, your age is basically already decided for you, you can have whatever opinion you want on getting married, its still railroads you. You still gotta save your bride or groom, sound pretty heroic to me. as a dealish elf your going to invastigate the eluvian in the forest, you cant opt out of it, you can complain about it, but functionaly your on a fixed path. as a mage you have to get down in the crypts for your fellow mage friend or the circle, but your going down there anyway. in dragon age inqusition, all flavor for your characters past was added on later in the game, with dialog with josephine and others and war table missions. Dragon age 2 is literally a fixed character, with a fixed past. just because you wrote your little fanfic in your head on how it goes went not mean thats how it was represented in game.
I wish it was more clear which backgrounds allow you to be dalish or not, or if all of them do. I don't want to play a non dalish with Vallaslin, though I guess the mirror in the lighthouse solves that issue.
According to Epler, "each lineage can be each faction" which "will provide a baseline for your character you can further refine through role player" and that "Veil Jumper elves tend to be more 'Dalish' to reflect that background" but you apparently "build your character's background and beliefs through in-game RP". So there hasn't been any definitive statement, they remain annoyingly vague to the simple question of whether or not you can role-play as a City Elf (partly because, based on other statements, they seemingly do not understand why a City Elf would have a different perspective than a Dalish one).
@@JoelBurger Yes, this is where my annoyance with their Q&A sessions have been too, a lot of vague halfway answers that doesn't really satisfy to resolve the questions posed.
The more I hear about the Lords of Fortune the more excited I am for my chaos gremlin rogue to finally have her spotlight....and be the bane of her professional, socially awkward, possibly possessed future husband.
I've always played as an Elven mage in every DA games, (also mage in DA 2 as human ofc), because i just liked being the guy being oppressed and just trying to survive. In Veilguard i'll choose the Grey Warden background since they're pretty much lost in the sauce after the Inquisition events. Curious how it will turn out !
I think from an in universe perspective, shadow dragons is the only group that makes sense. Inquisition literally said they would be going to tevinter to find more people after they disbanded
I find these extremely disappointing tbh... the backgrounds are all so similar. all are basically selfless heroes. There's no room for roleplay whatsoever, it comes across as very lazy from the writers. I'd like to be able to play a stern Grey Warden who makes difficult choices and lets innocents die for the greater good, or a Crow who isn't afraid to get his hands dirty and chooses business over lives. Whelp.
Doubt it, the intro has you saying automatically "we have to save her" lol. Dumbasses are complaining about woke, but this what really is gonna being the game down, lack of roleplay@@kamyczek12men
Only if you read them that way. These backgrounds are are pretty vague, they explain the ends not the means. The only thing they all have in common is that rook can be reckless and impatient.
As ever, I love your stuff, and I am really grateful to have the warning about seeing the CC, or similar warnings you've given before. For me, I am deciding to be that ridiculous about spoilering hehehe but I imagine that's a small percentage of folk.
Shadow dragon ...possibly Qunari if I'll be able to create my character to look as I want :D (basically my RPG character as a qunari AU :D ) It sounds fun as a Qunari tbh! :D
I kinda love that they all boil down to “your PC did something rashly heroic that succeeded with some blowback, so you gotta go on down Mexico way until the heat dies down.”
Thank you for this video, after watching it I'm more convinced to become an Antivan Crow. Throughout the franchise all my main characters have been Male Human Rogues and taking the Assassin specialization, so they have all been Assassins "To work in the Dark to serve the Light", so Rook will be joining them as another Male Human Rogue and as an Antiva Crow after watching this video. I'm Latino, so I'll be using my first name that goes very well with "De Riva" an Assassin.
Wasn't expecting to be as interested in the Lords of Fortune as I am. I think I just heard it before as some sort of mercenary/thieves guild, but tbh I am so intrigued by Rivain since we've only ever vaguely heard about it as some exotic place, even within Thedas. Can't wait to make a Rivaini Rook!
THANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! The surnames were all I was waiting on to finalize my character names. Thankfully my chosen first names fit nicely with their respective last names. You just made my day. Hope yours has been and continues to be great. 🤡🤡🤡
The part at the start of the video has past adventures but only mentioned inquisition? Really disappointing if it only takes into account one game especially if Morrigan is involved ?
We don't know that's the case. People aren't allowed to talk about world state choices. Worst case scenario: only inquisition choices are included Best case scenario: after you set the Inquisition choices and remake the inquisitor, you do the same for hawke and the HoF
@@krasmasov6852 I’ve seen someone on Reddit who played the game say it’s only 4 choices from inquisition. Really killed my hype. I’ve loved almost everything so far. Bummer.
Gonna go for a Qunari warrior Reaper Mourn watch! Stealing life essence with a SCYTHE to fight harder while also being a part of a Necromantic order sounds absolutely bananas.
The back stories sound like they are already rail roading you into being the perfect lovley hero who always saves everyone over material gain like inquisition which is kinda lame. I worry for the writing in thsi game
Not necessarily lord of fortune Rook simply acted in self defense, mournwatch Rook simply did his/her job, and crow Rook simply wanted to prove him/herself
My first playthrough will probably be a qunari mage grey warden. Second playthrough a human Rogue (or another mage if i like the mage combat) in the Mournwatch. Oòoh character are fighting for head space in my head.. can’t wait for oct 31st! My most favored backgrounds 1 Grey Wardens, 2 The Mornwatch 3 the Antivan Crows 4 the Shadow Dragons 5 Lords of fortune 6 The veil jumpers
Ngl the Mourn Watch backstory is metal as fuck. Found as an infant by undead in the Grand Necropolis? Metal.
I wonder if it means anything that two of the faction’s backstories say you’re adopted
So Gideon Nav basically?? Got it
Yeah that kind of sold me when i was thinking lords of fortune
I was planning on playing other factions, like the Shadow Dragon but the “adopted by a military family killed it for me”. Then I saw Mournwatch and like…Whaaaaat that backstory is cool as fuck. The only downside is I kinda hate the “aspirational armour” compared to the other factions. AH!
@@wewetke1553I'm so glad someone thought the same thing!
I'm sooo happy, I wanted the name "de Riva" soo bad for my rogue Antivan crow elf, can't wait to play as Geralt de Riva
That's an immaculate name lmao
And I can’t wait to play as Ketheric Thorne 😂
I'm sure that there's going to be more than one person that's gonna make Matthew Mercar
awesome 🤣
Also my character will be named "Suneror"
Full name: Suneror Laidir
Mournwatch backstory is so freaking interesting. Def my Rook's starting faction!
Wait so as a Mournwatch you could be a dwarven infant found in the Grand Necropolis....Enchantment?
Backgrounds sounds cool, especially the Mourn Watch one but I do wish all the backgrounds weren’t just the same as each respective new party member. In Inquisition, you were the only Dalish representation cause Sera and Solas were weirdos and even as a fellow Qunari, you were a Tal Vashoth to Bull’s acting member of the Ben Hassrath.
Yeah. When i heard the backgrounds, i immediately checked and they're the same except for harding. Maybe they want rook to have a standing in one of the factions from the get go, not like a complete unknown which i prefer
in dai a player character qunari is a Vashoth, someone born outside the qun. Tal vashoth are qunari that rebel against the qun, some qunari in the qun lump them together though. if i remember correctly theres even some unique dialog about it if you're a qunari and bull becomes a tal vashoth
The game has an emphasis on building reputation with each faction. It also gives us grounding/a defined history in the game. it affects dialog choices as well. It wouldnt make any sense to be the one and only dalish or any "unique" faction. I love Inquisition, but rarely did the player's background seem to matter. And this time around, it does look like it matters.
@@inkygreen they’re half-doing the origins from DAO. The difference is that if you’re a dwarf noble in DAO, when you go back to orzammar u had history with bhelen and the society etc. in the veilguard people of that certain faction know you, but you don’t know them
@ryanseijuro5279 where is it stated that Rook doesnt know anyone/know of anyone from their own faction?
Insert Ron Swanson almost in tears saying "it's so beautiful" gif.
*Truly in the home stretch, gotta stop shaking*
Thank you for your coverage and commentary :)
IN WAR VICTORY, IN PEACE VIGILANCE, IN DEATH SACRIFICE. For The Grey Wardens!
My gosh I’m gonna cry. The HAIR. I have always wanted my Dalish Inky to have a mess of Merida style Red Curls, of course that wasn’t an option (before you say mods I’m a console player). Seeing that option just makes me so damn happy.
and it can go all the way down to your waist.
ngl, I do wish surnames were based on race and not factions
Me too. It works for some of them, but not all. The Shadow Dragon Rook is adopted into a family and the Antivan Crows Rook is part of the de Riva House. But the Grey Warden has to be Thorne? I mean it's a cool name, but it's a very human name.
@@krasmasov6852 I mean kinda but Qunari don't have last names, Elves take their surnames from somewhere else usually clan, Thorne sounds very Dwarven as well. There also could be more background to your last name depending on your race.
I wonder how different playing as a Warden will be, compared to the other factions. Since there's a lot of blight involved, blight has "changed" and we also can't forget that Solas always vocally disliked wardens. I hope this is all reflected in a warden Rook playthrough.
The only difference there will be is Warden Rook will get the option to choose Warden-specific answers in dialogue when they talk about the blight or the Wardens themselves in the story.
Always disliked the way Solas kept shitting on the Wardens. Prick 😒 only saved the world 5 times. 6 if I can get this game 😉
You know I actually forgot about that... I wonder if we play as a warden we get to learn more about why Solas hates the wardens so much...
It feels like only one or two of these factions really naturally make sense for Qunari or Dwarves to be a part of them.
Which group do they not fit in aside from Veil Jumpers? Qunari and dwarf is a little weird for Mournwatch but the origin is "baby found in crypt" so it kind of does
Now I'm doubley confused as to why these backstories aren't playable. It's clear more thought and care went into them than the Inquisitor's backstory, with a common theme of going against our faction's leaders and being forced to leave. I just greatly want to see origins make a comeback, as it was easily the best part of Origins. This seems so close, and yet still so far
Yeah, it would be nice. But as Bioware said many years ago, most players of DAO didn't even finish the game once, and almost no one did more than one origin story. So the vast majority of players not only didn't see all the game, they only saw one origin and therefore all the work on different origins and how they played out later in the game was, from a purely practical perspective, a waste of development time and money. And it would be a better use of both to make stuff all players will see. Sad but true.
@@ShotaCat That is unfortunate, even though I did only beat the game once I did play through every backstory which was fun.
The hair is so so incredible wow
LET'S GO! CHARACTER CREATOR!
Those afro textures are MUAH!!!!!! They did a good job. If afro textures are on point I know everything else will be.
Human/ Lords of Foutune/ Rogue/ Romancing Davrin.--- First play through
For the first time in the franchise i will be able to create a character that look like myself. This is really big
@Paulo-go5vo Yes!!!!! And the Afro styles are all cute!!!!! I even saw my favorite signature afro style. So I think I know what I'll be choosing for hair already.
Rogue
FR!!!! This is the first game I've seen with perfect hair textures. They look great.
I guess its my own fault for theory crafting my own backgrounds before official word. It would have been to give us extra background options for a more varied experience. I'll just have to retcon some details in my own head to make my own story make sense
with the exception of mourn watch the background covers very little time really only consisting of the last few months to couple years before needing to step away from their respective faction.
Mourn Watch back story is wicked, but I also love the Lords of Fortune - who doesn't want to be a pirate?
Yea I definitely wasn't expecting found as a baby inside a crypt by undead then being a war hero in a zombie civil war lol It sounds like the background for someone in the anime "Bastard!!"
THE CHARACTER CREATOR LOOKS SO GOOD, CAITIE! Papa is crying!
yessss, i'm so excited, thank you so much for this! all the info i really wanted to get before the game, can't wait for the release!
Thank you Caitie 😊 I hope you had lots of fun making your Rooks 😊
I have seen 120 videoes on Dragon Age 4, you have the besty channel! You are a true fan, and it really shows and thats all I carer about. Keep it up!
At first I wasnt interested in the mourn watch, but that backstory..... i honestly think is the best one , and matches the backstory i made myself for my BG3 character in some ways, so i´ll defenetly play that one for one of my playthroughts (the evil run or as evil as the game lets you be XD)
As a fun note, i searched the last names of the different rooks, to see if they meant something in other lenguages and i found this (if im wrong in anyone or in all of them please correct me)
Ingelvar means angel (Norwegian)
De Riva means from the shore (italian)
Laidir means Strong (Scottish Gaelic)
Mercar means Purchase (Galician)
Aldwir means Called (Welsh)
Ingelvar is completely made up, definitely does not mean angel in norwegian, I guarantee you that. It could be close to Ingvar, which is said to be mean warrior or army, but it isn't a translation. The closest you could get is engel, which means angel in norwegian. You could argue as old norwegian you could write it as Ingel instead of Engel, but even then you still have "var" at the end
@@7PlayingWithFire7 thanks for the correction
Yeah i used google to translate it, so its probably not the most reliable XD
Thanks again
Ingel means angel in Estonian and if your really wanted to make a logical leap Ingellvar could be reasonably translated to guardian angel.
The Shadow Dragon Rook being an adopted child gives a chance for your true lineage being something really interesting. Maybe a human Rook is the bastard of the Archon or something like that.
Thank you for this first look at the CC! Everything sounds and looks pretty great so far! ✨️
(I only wish the option to come from a family of magisters was a thing 🥲 I had been hoping for this option since we knew we'd start in Tevinter... especially being a mage who joined the Shadow Dragons to fight against what their family stands for, more or less, was what I would have liked to see. Edit: And a connection to Dorian's and Maevaris' Lucerni would have been the cherry on top - but oh well! I've got some Rook concept back-up plans which work with what we got)
Coming from Kala Elizabeth's vid. I will be choosing an Antivaian Crow with a Sabtouer/and Veiljumper skillset. The CC and backgrounds look amazing.
I've never clicked on a video so fast in my life lol
This ❤
Veil Jumpers all the way for me. Thats pretty much how I roleplay in most rpgs anyways. Seeking out and researching ancient artifacts of past civilizations.
Thanks for this breakdown of the backgrounds! I am looking forward to playing my Shadow Dragon rogue when the game comes out! :D
SO EXCITED! Great content as always!
this video helped me to ground and flesh out some of my rook ideas, thank u
so far I have a lord of fortune kinda a indiana jones type
and a witcher-ish grey warden
This is the info I have been waiting for since June 🙏🙏🙏
Very interesting! Thanks for making this.
Some of these backgrounds had unexpected motivations!
Thank you for sharing! It’s gonna be so hard to pick a faction!
I was already gonna pick Mourn Watch, but now I'm even more excited.
Thank you for this. Really helped, now to decide what class to play lol
It is so refreshing to find a video and players that show excitement towards this game as opposed to all the negativity in so many other Veilguard videos.
Excited for this!! Also did also got a good look on the world state customization.
Clicked so MFN fast!
I am surprised that there was an attempt, no matter how anemic, to give us body size options. I was going to try for a fat and pampered Tevinter Magister who was a Shadow Dragon anti-slavery advocate.
I know the sliders dont go far enough, but the fact that we have them means Modders will be able to break their limits. I also wasnt expecting body sliders, but its such a nice detail to have more diverse options in CC. even if, at the same time, they could be even better than they are now
OMG I just realized you could specialize in fire magic and make general Iroh!
@@beaucole446 Ah, i see you are picking up what i am putting down. Good on ya.
@@beaucole446iroh the goat
Thank you for giving the background choices, this is awsome!
I feel like the crows should have the increased weak point/critical damage ngl.
Yea and the veil jumpers should have been slighter more combo damage since there whole thing is exploring magical phenomenon.
Thank you for this , I’m leaning more and more to the Lords of Fortune , edging out Shadow Dragons in my first play through
Your qunari looks great. 👌 refreshing to see another take on them
I appreciate more info on the Lords of Fortune option. I feel like they’ve been mostly overlooked outside of Tevinter Nights and Absolution (and even then, it wasn’t much.) I love that they aren’t just the “I’m Here For The Money” faction, but do see value in recovering old treasured artifacts and helping the people they belong to. My read is that Merrill would definitely vibe with them. I get the feeling if there is anything like the British Museum in Minrathous, Taash will be outraged, and I now have a new item on my DATV hope list.
I also love that all the factions sound cool, it means I can easily and enjoyably play six times and see new content each time, possibly more if you have some less conventional combinations like a qunari mage Warden or a dwarf Mourn Watch member.
I’m going to guess that Veil Jumpers will be popular with lore nerds, Wardens will be popular with DAO fans, and the Shadow Dragons will be popular with people who are more casual fans and mostly just remember the events of DAI.
Lords of Fortune are the Indiana Jones of the Dragon Age Universe and I love that so much about them. Plus the aesthetic??? Unmatched.
DAO was my first DA game, but I've had enough of being a Grey Warden.
And you could explore all 7 romance options. There are solid 3-7 playthroughs of this game so I hope it isn't too long.
Thank you so much for this! I finally have my starting character figured out ❤
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And thank you for the spoiler warning 🙏
This was really helpful. Thanks. I thought I knew what I wanted but now I'm stuck between 3.
I feel like guessing... Mourn watch, grey wardens, and veil jumpers
Hmm so the choices that we'll make at the beginning of the game only regard Inquisition...(refering to the little blurb on the right of the character that appears at the beginning of the video)
If that's true that's...a little disappointing to not have decisions from Orgins and 2 matter :/
what choices from those games would still be relevant? its been 10 years since inquisition in and out of game, thats like 20 years since origins.
@@MammothMorals Updates on who we chose as king of Ferelden? Also means no chance to potentially see Fenris again since he couldve died or sold to a magister in DA2
@@shard4756 considering the game doesn't take place in ferelden its unlikely we'll see them anyway and inquisition showed that anyway.
Leliana could die in origins but they still brought her back in inquisition. they could do the same with fenris, it's been long enough in game for them not to need to explain it.
@@MammothMorals im not expecting to see them. But seeing as how they dont ask about origins choices means they probably wont even refrence who is king in codexs or dialogue. They could force a canon on certain characters fates, but that pissed off a lot of ppl in Inquisition
@@shard4756 Leliana being alive wasn't a forced cannon. if shes harded and doesn't become divine at the end of inquisition, she has a unique ending were she disappears into a flock of crows suggesting that she's alive due to magical means.
All the backgrounds sound really awesome, glad they have Grey Wardens available so my Orzammarian Dwarf won't be too much of a stretch
Love the Afro texture, my first Rook will sport one of those hairstyles for sure
Lords of Fortune, chaotic good. I think I've found my faction.
Thank you for showing the casual wear!
I'm glad backgrounds return, but why every single one puts you as reckless goody two shoes?
I agree, the only one slightly different is Grey Warden ...
reckless yes but good two shoes is a bit of a leap. shadow dragons and grey wardens are the only "trying to save people" backgrounds.
I am now debating on Shadow Dragons, Mourn Watch and the Antivan Crows...
Surnames were a concern for me since they were going to be faction locked and not lineage. Four of the surnames are all very ambiguous and definitely work well for any lineage. On that note, de Riva gets a pass from me because of Lore. So that’s five. Unfortunately, Thorne I feel is still a bit too Human leaning.
Agree on Thorne. I guess you could roleplay as a non-human that was adopted by human parents? But I suppose thats a bit limiting
Thorne fits for humans and dwarves. Qunari don't have last names so they might explain how they get it and elves usually take their surnames from something around them like their clan so we might get an explanation.
chosing faction in this game is honestly one of the hardest things so many amazing choices and each faction so interesting for different reasons it's tortureeeeeeee 💜
Yea hearing the actual backgrounds completely ruined my plans lol
Let's go Shadow Dragons!!! 💜 🐉
Thanks for the video! I'm very excited about the backgrounds. Still not sure which one i'll choose
I have to say that I'm a bit disappointed with all the backgrounds having a similar moral standard. They all seem to be Robinhood archetypes. This along with what was said about bloodmagic makes me worry about the depth of roleplay.
Exactly! All of them are similarly "heroic" and leave no room for roleplaying whatsoever. They seem so lazily written, very disappointed... I don't want my Antivan Crow Rook to be a typical selfless hero.
this has been a thing in every dragon age game. Each game starts you off heroic. Why assume they wouldnt do it in this game?
@tristankik6223 that isn't true at all. None of the games set you up with a back story that has your character make moral choices before you take over and especially the same moral choices across every single backstory.
@@tristankik6223you can be less chaotic stupid and more pragmatic in dao, in da2 you have some good horrible choices, in dai welp i cant really remember, inquisitor don't have interesting choices. But most importantly - backstory in all games before dav very ambiguous (da2/dai) or you can roleplay in them(dao). In dav, backstory railroad to play is chaotic good, for rpg this really bad choice
@@CC-of5xl In dragon age orgins if your an city elf, your getting married, your age is basically already decided for you, you can have whatever opinion you want on getting married, its still railroads you. You still gotta save your bride or groom, sound pretty heroic to me.
as a dealish elf your going to invastigate the eluvian in the forest, you cant opt out of it, you can complain about it, but functionaly your on a fixed path.
as a mage you have to get down in the crypts for your fellow mage friend or the circle, but your going down there anyway.
in dragon age inqusition, all flavor for your characters past was added on later in the game, with dialog with josephine and others and war table missions.
Dragon age 2 is literally a fixed character, with a fixed past. just because you wrote your little fanfic in your head on how it goes went not mean thats how it was represented in game.
I wish it was more clear which backgrounds allow you to be dalish or not, or if all of them do. I don't want to play a non dalish with Vallaslin, though I guess the mirror in the lighthouse solves that issue.
i think you're dallish no matter what.
@@MammothMorals Ah, so no non-dalish elfing then, I see. Thanks for the heads-up.
According to Epler, "each lineage can be each faction" which "will provide a baseline for your character you can further refine through role player" and that "Veil Jumper elves tend to be more 'Dalish' to reflect that background" but you apparently "build your character's background and beliefs through in-game RP". So there hasn't been any definitive statement, they remain annoyingly vague to the simple question of whether or not you can role-play as a City Elf (partly because, based on other statements, they seemingly do not understand why a City Elf would have a different perspective than a Dalish one).
@@JoelBurger Yes, this is where my annoyance with their Q&A sessions have been too, a lot of vague halfway answers that doesn't really satisfy to resolve the questions posed.
I was so interested when Cassandra talked about the Mortalitasi so I’m definitely picking that background first
The more I hear about the Lords of Fortune the more excited I am for my chaos gremlin rogue to finally have her spotlight....and be the bane of her professional, socially awkward, possibly possessed future husband.
So you have the same suspicion about Lucanis as I do.
this is insane actually, cant wait for the game T_T
I've always played as an Elven mage in every DA games, (also mage in DA 2 as human ofc), because i just liked being the guy being oppressed and just trying to survive.
In Veilguard i'll choose the Grey Warden background since they're pretty much lost in the sauce after the Inquisition events.
Curious how it will turn out !
A Tevinter family adopting a Qunari into the family as an origin? That's so sick!
Let's hope the backgrounds will be explored and not just ignored constantly like in inquisition
Wasn't originally considering Mourn watch, but that backstory is too cool not to choose.
Same it sounds so metal!
kinda not a fan of them making us the hero by default, wish they add "or not" and give us negative karma or something.
loving the Crows even more. but the lords of fortune gear is awesome.
I think from an in universe perspective, shadow dragons is the only group that makes sense. Inquisition literally said they would be going to tevinter to find more people after they disbanded
all the other faction rooks are explained to be travelling in the backstory. likely traveling and found by Varric in Tevinter
Ok this is what I needed to decide on my rook! Definitely going to be a qunari mourn watcher mage! 😍😍
Ooh that's a dope head cannon
I'm more excited about this every day.
The Dragon Age franchises have always been pretty progressive for their time in every entry.
Those backstorys are giving serious Comander Sheppard vibes
I find these extremely disappointing tbh... the backgrounds are all so similar. all are basically selfless heroes. There's no room for roleplay whatsoever, it comes across as very lazy from the writers.
I'd like to be able to play a stern Grey Warden who makes difficult choices and lets innocents die for the greater good, or a Crow who isn't afraid to get his hands dirty and chooses business over lives. Whelp.
You probably will be able to shift this backstories to be a little into more rough/gentle in approach, like you could with Shepard backstory in ME
Doubt it, the intro has you saying automatically "we have to save her" lol. Dumbasses are complaining about woke, but this what really is gonna being the game down, lack of roleplay@@kamyczek12men
Only if you read them that way. These backgrounds are are pretty vague, they explain the ends not the means. The only thing they all have in common is that rook can be reckless and impatient.
As ever, I love your stuff, and I am really grateful to have the warning about seeing the CC, or similar warnings you've given before. For me, I am deciding to be that ridiculous about spoilering hehehe but I imagine that's a small percentage of folk.
Shadow dragon ...possibly Qunari if I'll be able to create my character to look as I want :D (basically my RPG character as a qunari AU :D ) It sounds fun as a Qunari tbh! :D
Ill be playing a human shadow dragon mage for my first run. I am SO excited
Im so excited to enjoy seeing thedas again!
gosh you and Kala sound so much alike. and im all for it . looking forward to much more DATV content
Thank you so much for this! 💜
I kinda love that they all boil down to “your PC did something rashly heroic that succeeded with some blowback, so you gotta go on down Mexico way until the heat dies down.”
The character creator looks very nice, I also enjoy the different backstories. If I was able to play Veilguard at launch I would be extremely hyped.
Thank you for this video, after watching it I'm more convinced to become an Antivan Crow. Throughout the franchise all my main characters have been Male Human Rogues and taking the Assassin specialization, so they have all been Assassins "To work in the Dark to serve the Light", so Rook will be joining them as another Male Human Rogue and as an Antiva Crow after watching this video. I'm Latino, so I'll be using my first name that goes very well with "De Riva" an Assassin.
I have no idea who my rook is gonna be...
Wasn't expecting to be as interested in the Lords of Fortune as I am. I think I just heard it before as some sort of mercenary/thieves guild, but tbh I am so intrigued by Rivain since we've only ever vaguely heard about it as some exotic place, even within Thedas. Can't wait to make a Rivaini Rook!
Ah yeah, thanks for this. I had planned for Wardens, but now I'm all about Veil Jumpers.
Oh grey warden, what have you done
The oath you have taken is all but broken
just seeing a bit of the CC I am so happy lol I hated Inquisitions CC so much, and this looks like such an improvement overall.
THANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! THANK YOU ! The surnames were all I was waiting on to finalize my character names. Thankfully my chosen first names fit nicely with their respective last names. You just made my day. Hope yours has been and continues to be great. 🤡🤡🤡
I think first names are randomly generated? Maybe I'm wrong but just don't get too hy9ed about ur first name in case u can't have it
This is exactly what I was hoping for ❤ Hell yeah!
Dang you got 20k views on this Girl!! You've come a long way ❤️❤️❤️
Great video thanks!
I had been between Veil Jumper and Shadow Dragon, but this definitely sold me on Veil Jumper!
The part at the start of the video has past adventures but only mentioned inquisition? Really disappointing if it only takes into account one game especially if Morrigan is involved ?
We don't know that's the case. People aren't allowed to talk about world state choices.
Worst case scenario: only inquisition choices are included
Best case scenario: after you set the Inquisition choices and remake the inquisitor, you do the same for hawke and the HoF
@@krasmasov6852 I’ve seen someone on Reddit who played the game say it’s only 4 choices from inquisition.
Really killed my hype. I’ve loved almost everything so far. Bummer.
@davidlastewart6183 Oh well if a person from reddit says so...
@@krasmasov6852 yeah I know how it sounds haha. Will try to stay positive.
Gonna go for a Qunari warrior Reaper Mourn watch! Stealing life essence with a SCYTHE to fight harder while also being a part of a Necromantic order sounds absolutely bananas.
I think the ooooonly small thing I don’t love is the surname being the same across races.
There might be a explanation for the 3 questionable ones.
The back stories sound like they are already rail roading you into being the perfect lovley hero who always saves everyone over material gain like inquisition which is kinda lame. I worry for the writing in thsi game
Not necessarily lord of fortune Rook simply acted in self defense, mournwatch Rook simply did his/her job, and crow Rook simply wanted to prove him/herself
Yeah not much role playing in rpg, I hope they understand what they are making it's just a game
My first playthrough will probably be a qunari mage grey warden. Second playthrough a human Rogue (or another mage if i like the mage combat) in the Mournwatch. Oòoh character are fighting for head space in my head.. can’t wait for oct 31st!
My most favored backgrounds
1 Grey Wardens,
2 The Mornwatch
3 the Antivan Crows
4 the Shadow Dragons
5 Lords of fortune
6 The veil jumpers
a shame we cant go full evil like a venatori background
Of course you cant why would you be recruited? You can go renegade "get the job done by any means necessary" background though.