These cars are absolutely PHENOMENAL! The problem is that Alfas marketing is not that great therefore a lot of people don't know anything about them. This car actually held the German nurbuerg track record at one point
The problem with Alfa right now is there isn’t many people who want to modify them so the tunes and basic things are an arm and leg to make slightly more power
@@negadiv6306 people like you piss me off never having owned the car or a car for that matter, yet you think cause you googled the vehicle from 05 it isn’t reliable. Stop kid
Hardcore BMW fan here since the 90's. Friends father ran the service dept and brought a different one home every weekend. I own a 2020 (refresh year) Quadrifoglio. BMW went back to the drawing board on the M3 after Alfa broke the sedan record on the Nurburgring.
Brian, as soon as I saw you were going to review a Quadri, I knew it was going to be a fun video. Especially since you hadn’t driven one before. These things are mechanical monsters. It’s the kind of car that sits in the garage at night with an orange glow and growls to be unleashed. It’s a rocket and you gotta hold on. I think you described it perfectly when you said it was a violent drive. lol. One of my favorite cars ever! Thanks for an entertaining video. Even more fun to watch then I imagined. I need this car! 👏🔥
The original release GQ owns the M3 of the time in stock form, it absolutely destroys it. Mine is totally stock and not a single stock M3 can stay with me, not one. The GQ is an incredible car and when it launched it made BMW wake up! The new M3 with XDrive e.t.c is quicker, but still I Would take the Alfa because driving enjoyment isn't all about who is the fastest. If more people would realise this, the driving world would be a better place for all of us. Nice video!
The Alfa was definitely a blast to drive! Certainly has a light weight feeling and is super tossable. I think the new M3 really stands out with acceleration and interior refinement tho. But you can tell it's a heavy car. Wonder what Alfa will do next with this
It's an absolute pleasure to drive and mine has been reliable since I bought it (model year 2017 - 30,000 miles). Only the fuel pump software needed to be updated and that was it. Mine was tuned by Squadra Tuning in the Netherlands (they have worldwide resellers, also in the US with Alfissimo): not only more power (570 HP instead of 510 HP) and torque (720 Nm instead of 600 Nm but in the in practice this is already 640 Nm), but also no more restrictions on the torque in the first gears in dynamic mode and a much smoother pedal response. It's by far the best car I've ever owned, as it combines great outright performance (it's as fast as a 458 Italia when accelerating from 60mph to 125mph), with easy highway cruising.
Facelift will be previewed before the end of the year: headlights will have the same shape but innards will be LEDs as those on the new Tonale; inside same dashboard but digital instruments and revised infotainment software
I have a 2.0t. really want a quadrifolio. Thing is, they're prone to timing failure which leads to a blown motor. I'e be terrified to put a tune on that engine. My favorite car atm.
This car since it came out destroyed the m3 brother, it was like 2 generations ahead in everything drivewise. The BMW needed like 5 years to compete in track with it, with 30k more in price the m3 competition. But whatever they do, they cannot reach the mastery of the Alfas chassy and the dirived Ferrari engine. Best sport sedan period.
Yeah I can see that! The Current G80 M3 tho is a step up. So it took them a bit to make something better. I will say this landlines insane and feels so light! M3 is heavy feeling, but better quality and more power. So both have a lot to offer
2017 had the manual. they took it out because the z8f proved to be quicker around the nurburg. I actually wish it had a DCT 😫 even more drama through the shifts
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I think 🤔 not really sure if anyone in the US has one with manual. only reason I say we may have one somewhere in this country is because I remember watching Chris Harris driving one of these, said he's glad the manual version is not available in the UK
Shift too early brother.. I have same car same color same tune 😂 mine is 2017, I shift it at 7500rpm sometimes 7000. It's very fun and enjoyable daily driver.
For videos it makes more sense to short shift. Sounds better on camera. If I redlined each shift I’d be breaking some speed limits a bit too much and run out of road
It's a 2019. Intakes, full exhaust and tune I think is it. Don't know the wheels specs. Think they are HRE. alfa9supply and idealrace.com is where the owner got parts form
Man i like ve this car i got a buddy whos a car salesman and he owns a black quad god is it sexy and fun so so fun its really hard to choose between one of these and the new 23 M3 ca xdrive they are both incredible cars
would u get this or a m340i?? im looking for a car and the f80 are really expensive in switzerland so im thinking about getting this or a m340i, what would u guys get?
@@BrosFOURRSpeedthis is like 500+ hp, m340 are less than 400… for reliability I had Giulia and Stelvio .. (less powerful versions) no issues… honestly I believe that Alfa is no less nowadays, compared to any other brand
@@svenvet8497 The M340 B58 dyno about 400 whp. With tuning and a downpipe they make 500 whp. So not quite as much as the Quad. But still plenty fast and more reliable. I wouldn’t get the 4 cylinder versions of any of these. Then you’re not getting a sports sedan anymore.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed it killed all time’s at Nuremberg ! Four publications ran cars, test, clocked times, Skid pads, cornering, it’s blows it out the water !
@@davidn5334 the M3 blows this out of the water? When I say competitor I’m more talking about how the M3 is another 4 door performance sedan. The M3 is the benchmark for a performance sedan. So this is something that’s a similar price point and can do a similar thing. I also mentioned Audi RS3
Just because there of similar price and both are sedans does not make them competitors. The Mercedes amg gt 63s would be more of competitor for it. This car is considered a performance car and I think your looked at this from a price and luxury car evaluation point of view. If you do more performance cars reviews in the future. Just remember the people watching your videos are probably petrol heads. And the car your reviewing they are probably fascinated with, so to compared one car to another unless there performance is similar may subject you to unwanted criticism. Nice job though and hope you enjoyed driving such a beautiful car.
The power is great, the handling and driving is exceptional... but at anything other than full-song, the exhaust note on these is terrible!! I can't believe they didn't work out a better sounding exhaust note on these cars!
you are the only person I've ever heard talk poorly about the exhaust. The exhaust with the open valves is beautiful. I just got mine a few weeks ago and am addicted to the sound.
I was in love with my Giulia and Alfa Romeo as a brand, however, I will never again buy/recommend another Alfa Romeo in my life. I had the brake by wire system fail on me and it caused me to crash and total the car. They sent someone from Bosch to diagnose the vehicle and in the charts it clearly showed that something malfunctioned (brakes were slammed 2 seconds before the impact at 40 MPH and it took more than 1.5 seconds for the speed to start going down.) Also, after having had various discussions with other people, it's come to my attention that they should not have sent someone from Bosch to diagnose my vehicle because they did not design the braking system. Which means that not only is alfa/stellantis designing crappy vehicles, but they are also shady af! Anyways, stellantis told me that they were not going to take responsibility for it and that I needed to have my insurance pay for the vehicle. Absolute garbage. I will never recommend this car brand to anyone again! Buy an AUDI, BMW, Mercedes or literally anything else instead!!!
Wow that'd definitely crazy to hear! Not the best experience for sure! Not sure how many other owners have had that issue. But you'd think Alfa would look at the car themselves to see why it happened.
It's unfortunate you had a failure like this, but it happens with all brands. I had a SMG pump in my M5 shake loose at 90mph, then two days later an engine failure. My neighbor has a brand new Mercedes AMG GT63, has owned it for 7 months and it's been at the dealership for a total of 5 months. Stuff goes wrong and frankly yours sounds like a one off random failure and not an issue that stretches beyond your personal car. I stopped buying BMW's because of the way they handled my engine failure on my M5 and how they handled the issues we had with my wife's M3, I would have continued to buy BMW's if they had simply owned the issues. I was an employee of BMW for 6 yrs and between my wife and I have owned 9 of them, so it really irritated me and the rep actually said I had nothing to complain about because the local dealer gave me 5% above dealer cost for parts and labor cost was at the tech hourly take home rate. My Giulia Quadrifoglio has had a couple of issues, but they were related to a performance shop making a mistake while modifying my car. My Giulia has 634hp it's tuned, has custom ceramic coated downpipes with cat delete, upgraded turbo wastegate system, BMC filter, upgraded double capacity aluminum heat exchanger. Overall it's been a great car!!
@@fatgoose8983 Ohh stfu. I'm glad that piece of crap car is in the junkyard now. Honestly that's where All alfas belong anyways. I'm glad I no longer own it. Also, stop projecting please. We all know you have mental issues. Just get in touch with your local therapist and they'll help you out. Good luck bud!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I hope not very many other have had the issue. However, from the way they handled my case, perhaps it has happened many times already but they do not want to admit it. I'm sure they don't want the brand to receive more negative publicity as they've had in the past. You know, I thought the same thing too. I found it very odd that they were not going to look at the car for themselves. Which is why I feel like they were being shady.
bmw sucks. It looks like they ask AI to design their cars, grabbed a knife and carved random lines. It drives almost as bad as a Cadillac, and feels like you are eating cheerios for dinner every day. Zero fun, no passion. Alfa has passion, beauty, power, and joy.
@@MrJrolon1975 They are repeating reviews from the very early cars. You will note that for other reviews from actual owners the reliability is good. The dealerships? Alfa dealers or other dealers? Suggest you read the real reviews for 2018 to present cars. I personally own two Giulias (including a QV) and NO issues. Even on youtube about the Alfas, you will find very positive comments and reviews about reliability. But alfa does have a reputation from many years ago, and reviewers who are not aware of the current situation keep repeating this old reputation.
These cars are absolutely PHENOMENAL! The problem is that Alfas marketing is not that great therefore a lot of people don't know anything about them. This car actually held the German nurbuerg track record at one point
Yeah very true. People don't know much about these
That raw Italian drama that excites/scares you is what Alfas are all about. That's why they are considered real driver's cars
Yeah they have some character to them for sure! Very dramatic car!
The problem with Alfa right now is there isn’t many people who want to modify them so the tunes and basic things are an arm and leg to make slightly more power
Oh yeah? I can see that over a BMW or Audi. Much lower volume
@@negadiv6306 you owned one ?
@@negadiv6306 THEY ARE EXTREMELY RELIABLE LOL SINCE 2017
@@negadiv6306 people like you piss me off never having owned the car or a car for that matter, yet you think cause you googled the vehicle from 05 it isn’t reliable. Stop kid
@@Theowannamaker how would u know
Hardcore BMW fan here since the 90's. Friends father ran the service dept and brought a different one home every weekend. I own a 2020 (refresh year) Quadrifoglio. BMW went back to the drawing board on the M3 after Alfa broke the sedan record on the Nurburgring.
Oh wow I bet! This Alfa was a sweet car for sure! Truly has performance in it!
BMW are a bit more premium, Alfa sits between VW and Audi, kinda like SAAB
@@PaulTC97 no.
@@THEBUFUMAN. alfa interiors are not premium.. its like a chrysler
It still has the 5 seat sedan record
Wow love it! This car is truly strong and beautiful! I Was wondering when you were going be doing the Alfa Romeo Guilia!!! Thanks for posting Brian.
Glad you liked the vid! Really cool car for sure! Loved the power and sounds!
Brian, as soon as I saw you were going to review a Quadri, I knew it was going to be a fun video. Especially since you hadn’t driven one before. These things are mechanical monsters. It’s the kind of car that sits in the garage at night with an orange glow and growls to be unleashed. It’s a rocket and you gotta hold on. I think you described it perfectly when you said it was a violent drive. lol. One of my favorite cars ever! Thanks for an entertaining video. Even more fun to watch then I imagined. I need this car! 👏🔥
Glad you liked the video! It was a super cool car to check out! Really loved all the sounds and power!
Bellissimo! Italian art in motion😎🏁
Alfas are really cool cars!
The Italian lover you never knew you needed 💯
These are nice cars for sure!
you always need an Italian love
The original release GQ owns the M3 of the time in stock form, it absolutely destroys it. Mine is totally stock and not a single stock M3 can stay with me, not one. The GQ is an incredible car and when it launched it made BMW wake up! The new M3 with XDrive e.t.c is quicker, but still I Would take the Alfa because driving enjoyment isn't all about who is the fastest.
If more people would realise this, the driving world would be a better place for all of us.
Nice video!
The Alfa was definitely a blast to drive! Certainly has a light weight feeling and is super tossable. I think the new M3 really stands out with acceleration and interior refinement tho. But you can tell it's a heavy car. Wonder what Alfa will do next with this
This is a beautiful car. I never hear about people tuning these. Thanks for sharing. Keep up with the awesome videos!
Glad you liked the video! Such a fun car! We really just see the German cars, hope to these gain some popularity
It's an absolute pleasure to drive and mine has been reliable since I bought it (model year 2017 - 30,000 miles). Only the fuel pump software needed to be updated and that was it. Mine was tuned by Squadra Tuning in the Netherlands (they have worldwide resellers, also in the US with Alfissimo): not only more power (570 HP instead of 510 HP) and torque (720 Nm instead of 600 Nm but in the in practice this is already 640 Nm), but also no more restrictions on the torque in the first gears in dynamic mode and a much smoother pedal response. It's by far the best car I've ever owned, as it combines great outright performance (it's as fast as a 458 Italia when accelerating from 60mph to 125mph), with easy highway cruising.
Oh cool! These are definitely fun. We had one recently as a press car and it was pretty fun!
I hope Alfa Romeo redesigns the guilia and stelvio soon. They need it imo
I've seen a new Stelio design. So maybe this is next
I honestly like how it is right now, maybe some minor tweaks to the interior
@@Bacondoggo I could see an updated Nav screen and gauges for sure. But it looks pretty cool still on the outside
Facelift will be previewed before the end of the year: headlights will have the same shape but innards will be LEDs as those on the new Tonale; inside same dashboard but digital instruments and revised infotainment software
Yessir 🚀 the look on your face told it all lol. What an amazing machine 💪🏾
Oh yeah! Such a fun car!
I have a 2.0t. really want a quadrifolio. Thing is, they're prone to timing failure which leads to a blown motor. I'e be terrified to put a tune on that engine. My favorite car atm.
Yeah I've heard some different things with these. Very fun car. But they probably depreciate bad for a reason
For an automatic, it’s a great driver’s car…great chassis
It is! Really solid car!
g8x still better
Really beautiful car that’s call Italian design 🖤🔥
Oh yeah! Super cool car!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Absolutely bro 🖤
This car since it came out destroyed the m3 brother, it was like 2 generations ahead in everything drivewise. The BMW needed like 5 years to compete in track with it, with 30k more in price the m3 competition. But whatever they do, they cannot reach the mastery of the Alfas chassy and the dirived Ferrari engine. Best sport sedan period.
Yeah I can see that! The Current G80 M3 tho is a step up. So it took them a bit to make something better. I will say this landlines insane and feels so light! M3 is heavy feeling, but better quality and more power. So both have a lot to offer
ZF 8 speed gearbox = Work of Art!
Yeah it's a great transmission!
I hope they add a manual transmission option for all trims of the Giulia and the Stelvio.
This Giulia sounds really good though! A very dramatic car.
Yeah it’d be nice to see that! Especially since the M3 and CT4V have it
2017 had the manual. they took it out because the z8f proved to be quicker around the nurburg. I actually wish it had a DCT 😫 even more drama through the shifts
@@swifterskillz oh really? I never new they had that. Was it in the US market?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I think 🤔 not really sure if anyone in the US has one with manual. only reason I say we may have one somewhere in this country is because I remember watching Chris Harris driving one of these, said he's glad the manual version is not available in the UK
No manual option in the US. Did not pass DOT regulations
Ngl my dream car rn
Super cool car!
It also has a active aero front splitter carbon drive shaft and hood. 2 sets of spark plugs and 2 sets of injectors on the newer ones
Yeah I showed the hood. Very cool car overall! We had one as a press car for a week and loved it!
Shift too early brother.. I have same car same color same tune 😂 mine is 2017, I shift it at 7500rpm sometimes 7000. It's very fun and enjoyable daily driver.
For videos it makes more sense to short shift. Sounds better on camera. If I redlined each shift I’d be breaking some speed limits a bit too much and run out of road
@@BrosFOURRSpeed you gotta before i get this i wanna know what it screams to
@@Shortyzworldtv I did hit redline in 2nd and 3rd tho in the video. Sounds amazing!
How much hp can these cars make full bolt ons?
She moves! 🚀
Heck yeah! Such a fun car to check out!
Looks and sounds awesome! Can you put together a mod list including wheels? Also what year is it? Thank you
It's a 2019. Intakes, full exhaust and tune I think is it. Don't know the wheels specs. Think they are HRE. alfa9supply and idealrace.com is where the owner got parts form
Driving it in full automatic mode is even better. It is way more aggressive than I could ever shift it.
Yeah it'll definitely shift optimally!
Man i like ve this car i got a buddy whos a car salesman and he owns a black quad god is it sexy and fun so so fun its really hard to choose between one of these and the new 23 M3 ca xdrive they are both incredible cars
I'd go M3 over the Alfa! It's definitely a cool car, but not nearly as reliable as the BMW!
You'll beat a lot of cars on the street with this, most people won't know what you have
I bet! Very cool car to check out!
would u get this or a m340i?? im looking for a car and the f80 are really expensive in switzerland so im thinking about getting this or a m340i, what would u guys get?
I'd probably go M340. More reliable car and can make just as much power
@@BrosFOURRSpeedthis is like 500+ hp, m340 are less than 400… for reliability I had Giulia and Stelvio .. (less powerful versions) no issues… honestly I believe that Alfa is no less nowadays, compared to any other brand
@@svenvet8497 The M340 B58 dyno about 400 whp. With tuning and a downpipe they make 500 whp. So not quite as much as the Quad. But still plenty fast and more reliable. I wouldn’t get the 4 cylinder versions of any of these. Then you’re not getting a sports sedan anymore.
HELLO --->Where did you get those carbon fiber intakes?
I’m not sure where the owner got them.
They're Ideal Racing carbon fiber intakes. But be warned the intake air temp will be higher than stock by quite a bit.
@@BIG_SCAMthanks for the pro tip. Probably won’t get them.
How they raise from 510 hp to 600 hp
A simple tune can do that!
CS_SubaruBRZCarFan Here Dude Again For What Year Is The More Power Giulia Brian For The Love Of Modified.
Yeah this is a fun car to modify
@@BrosFOURRSpeed not with the ECU it isn't - this car has 2 of them at the firewall that need to be removed and refitted
Would love to race that. I suspect about 520whp on pump. So should be in mid 7s 60-130mph. Would make good content.
Yeah not to sure. Super fast for sure!
Is that an Ontario plate?
No! I’m like a day away from Canada!
The Italian M3
For sure! Love the way the Giulia drove!
What year is that car ?
It is a 2019
Series 1 without the upgraded interior (centre console)
who did the tune?
ALFA TOP D++++ !!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👆🏻💪🏻👍🏻🤜🏻🇧🇷🇮🇹😎🙏🏻🙏🏻 FIOTEIROS!!
Fun car for sure!
Ats v or ct4 blackwing
I'd go CT4 V since it's newer. We've driven a few CT4 V Blackwings and they are a blast!
This car has a carbon fiber driveshaft and 4 real exhausts, not like audi and mercedes half of which are fake
Yeah it's cool! However a lot of Audi and Mercedes performance cars have real exhaust tips like this. It's the basic trims that have fake tips
My daily driver. And my mistress.
This is a fun Alfa to drive!
The M3 is not a competitor for that car #NotAtAll .................................................
Why isn’t the M3 a competitor??
@@BrosFOURRSpeed it killed all time’s at Nuremberg ! Four publications ran cars, test, clocked times, Skid pads, cornering, it’s blows it out the water !
@@davidn5334 the M3 blows this out of the water?
When I say competitor I’m more talking about how the M3 is another 4 door performance sedan. The M3 is the benchmark for a performance sedan. So this is something that’s a similar price point and can do a similar thing. I also mentioned Audi RS3
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I think he meant the Alfa ?
Just because there of similar price and both are sedans does not make them competitors. The Mercedes amg gt 63s would be more of competitor for it. This car is considered a performance car and I think your looked at this from a price and luxury car evaluation point of view. If you do more performance cars reviews in the future. Just remember the people watching your videos are probably petrol heads. And the car your reviewing they are probably fascinated with, so to compared one car to another unless there performance is similar may subject you to unwanted criticism. Nice job though and hope you enjoyed driving such a beautiful car.
Pretty women
Great looking car!
Don’t break it 🤣🤣
Lol! It’s pretty solid!
Anyone else seen Ratatouille?
nope
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Thanks for checking out the video!
The power is great, the handling and driving is exceptional... but at anything other than full-song, the exhaust note on these is terrible!! I can't believe they didn't work out a better sounding exhaust note on these cars!
you are the only person I've ever heard talk poorly about the exhaust. The exhaust with the open valves is beautiful. I just got mine a few weeks ago and am addicted to the sound.
@@B4UCEExactly. Lol. So much better than crappy, tinny sounding BMW. He's all alone on this.
What's it like to drive a 600-horsepower alpha? We wouldn't know because here's a 500 horsepower example. 🤦
Where do you get that from?
540 at the wheels, 600 at the crank. Doesnt seem that hard to understand
I was in love with my Giulia and Alfa Romeo as a brand, however, I will never again buy/recommend another Alfa Romeo in my life. I had the brake by wire system fail on me and it caused me to crash and total the car. They sent someone from Bosch to diagnose the vehicle and in the charts it clearly showed that something malfunctioned (brakes were slammed 2 seconds before the impact at 40 MPH and it took more than 1.5 seconds for the speed to start going down.) Also, after having had various discussions with other people, it's come to my attention that they should not have sent someone from Bosch to diagnose my vehicle because they did not design the braking system. Which means that not only is alfa/stellantis designing crappy vehicles, but they are also shady af! Anyways, stellantis told me that they were not going to take responsibility for it and that I needed to have my insurance pay for the vehicle. Absolute garbage. I will never recommend this car brand to anyone again! Buy an AUDI, BMW, Mercedes or literally anything else instead!!!
Wow that'd definitely crazy to hear! Not the best experience for sure! Not sure how many other owners have had that issue. But you'd think Alfa would look at the car themselves to see why it happened.
It's unfortunate you had a failure like this, but it happens with all brands. I had a SMG pump in my M5 shake loose at 90mph, then two days later an engine failure. My neighbor has a brand new Mercedes AMG GT63, has owned it for 7 months and it's been at the dealership for a total of 5 months. Stuff goes wrong and frankly yours sounds like a one off random failure and not an issue that stretches beyond your personal car. I stopped buying BMW's because of the way they handled my engine failure on my M5 and how they handled the issues we had with my wife's M3, I would have continued to buy BMW's if they had simply owned the issues. I was an employee of BMW for 6 yrs and between my wife and I have owned 9 of them, so it really irritated me and the rep actually said I had nothing to complain about because the local dealer gave me 5% above dealer cost for parts and labor cost was at the tech hourly take home rate.
My Giulia Quadrifoglio has had a couple of issues, but they were related to a performance shop making a mistake while modifying my car. My Giulia has 634hp it's tuned, has custom ceramic coated downpipes with cat delete, upgraded turbo wastegate system, BMC filter, upgraded double capacity aluminum heat exchanger. Overall it's been a great car!!
Ignore this crybaby. He's never owned an Alfa. He posts this drivel on every video. Talk about mental issues..
@@fatgoose8983 Ohh stfu. I'm glad that piece of crap car is in the junkyard now. Honestly that's where All alfas belong anyways. I'm glad I no longer own it. Also, stop projecting please. We all know you have mental issues. Just get in touch with your local therapist and they'll help you out. Good luck bud!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I hope not very many other have had the issue. However, from the way they handled my case, perhaps it has happened many times already but they do not want to admit it. I'm sure they don't want the brand to receive more negative publicity as they've had in the past. You know, I thought the same thing too. I found it very odd that they were not going to look at the car for themselves. Which is why I feel like they were being shady.
bmw sucks. It looks like they ask AI to design their cars, grabbed a knife and carved random lines. It drives almost as bad as a Cadillac, and feels like you are eating cheerios for dinner every day.
Zero fun, no passion.
Alfa has passion, beauty, power, and joy.
I would definitely disagree with that. But buy what you’ll enjoy.
Too bad its unreliable.
How do you know that ?
@@gfall9780 Every forum and dealerships mentions it.
@@MrJrolon1975 They are repeating reviews from the very early cars. You will note that for other reviews from actual owners the reliability is good. The dealerships? Alfa dealers or other dealers? Suggest you read the real reviews for 2018 to present cars. I personally own two Giulias (including a QV) and NO issues. Even on youtube about the Alfas, you will find very positive comments and reviews about reliability. But alfa does have a reputation from many years ago, and reviewers who are not aware of the current situation keep repeating this old reputation.
Current owner hasn't had issues with his. But overall, yeah I'd trust BMW or Audi better
It's actually not really , I think that's blown out of proportion , maybe based off of problems with other priors.
M3?! what's that??
lol M3 is a great car!