Absolutely horrifying that Rachel could have died if she didn’t get the MRI, always advocate for yourself when you’re at the doctors, you’re the main person that is going to look out for yourself and you know your own body better than anyone
Yall should check out the You Can Sit With Us episode she did about her story. It's even more intense than this video showed. Her Dr genuinely still didn't think the MRI was necessary "because the outcome wouldn't have been much different had they waited until her scheduled follow up." Absolutely unreal to hear her talk about!
The way this doctor validated Rachel’s post trauma anxiety is so rare, but seeing it is so wonderful. An intense reaction to an intense memory is totally normal. I sobbed here because it shouldn’t be so hard to be validated by a doctor when you are so scared.
I appreciated that a lot. I've never been through what she has, but I had a medical emergency related to my first pregnancy, and then I had a similar breakdown during my second. Thankfully the doctor that was with me had been there for me during my first, so she knew what was up. Medical personnel see us in our weakest, most vulnerable moments. Compassion and understanding make a world of difference when you're in that place.
It was very emotional to watch that bit of the video because I haven't had a doctor yet validate my birth related post trauma anxiety and I was so happy that this doctor did for Rachel.
Rachel having to fight with doctors is so common it’s scary. I’m in my twenties and my grandpa had breast cancer. Every time I tell a doctor they doubt me or ask if I meant my grandma. They tell me how rare it is for a male to get it. And I’m always like yeah, that’s why I’m telling you and fighting to get tested. I’m tired of doctors telling me I have MY family history wrong.
literally this!! anyone with breast tissue can get breast cancer; obviously the rates are much higher in women but it's not impossible for men to get breast cancer too. i had to get an ultrasound for what ended up being a benign mass (thank god) and had the same experience as you - the technician asked me if i meant my grandma or asking if i was confused.
My grandfather just finished his treatment for breast cancer, but the first thing they did was genetic testing. Turns out he's one of the rare few men that gets breast cancer without it being genetic, but there was a real concern for a bit that my mom and I could have a gene that would almost guarantee we would get breast cancer. Luckily I have a wonderful obgyn that didn't even blink when I told her. Just asked the pertinent questions and updated my file!
Rachel is such a fucking superstar. When Rachel started crying before the ultrasound, I started to cry with her. I think in that moment we all felt a time when we were back in a place that was previously very traumatic, and that feeling of PTSD
The amount if time between toris friend diagnosis, and her passing is horrifying. Even more so when you realize Rachel's was so close to the same timeline. The fight is so hard and anyone who goes though this should be proud. You are incredible person and im glad this could be shared.
@@mackenziekirk6030 I don't have full trust in doctors. The fact they were not going to give her an MRI and when she did get one they "complained" that they don't do MRIs because when they find something small people freak out... Of course someone would freak out if there's cancer in them.
I think if the doctors would’ve listened to her and done the mastectomy in the first place, I wonder if she would’ve been better off. I know for myself, though I’ve not had cancer, that I’d likely want to go the same route. I say this as someone who’s not only wanted but needed a hysterectomy and was told no by multiple doctors. I was told no because I was either too young or that I hate kids. Now at 41 I’m at the point where I’m always in some kind of pain because of my uterus. Pain that would’ve been avoided had the surgery been done years ago. Even my current OB agrees that it should’ve been done ten+ years ago.
The fact that with Rachel they found something, made her feel guilty about it, and then it ended up being cancer again?? that's so appalling. she knew her body and she knew what she needed and when she was right and cancer tissue was found they had the audacity to say "and that's why we don't do these!". Rachel you are so strong!!
Sadly, a lot of doctors (especially male ones, I've found) try to make out that they know our bodies better than us and will pooh-pooh or just flat out refuse to believe a woman when she says there's something wrong. Surely the best qualified person to know that there's something wrong with a part of their body is the person that lives in it every day, knows all its muscles and creases and not a doctor that wouldn't know them if they passed them on the street?
The worst part is, after it was diagnosed as cancer again, she was told that it was still pointless and the outcome probably would have been the same if she had just waited for her scheduled check up. Even after it was shown she was right, that doctor still tried denying shit
@@theekatspajamas and she wouldn’t have had to go through so much if they had done the double mastectomy like she requested. Now that they gave her life time doses of those different treatments what if she gets cancer again. They screwed her over. I’ve seen this type of thing again and again. I’d shed listened to the doctors she would not be here today.
The fact that they talked her out of the surgery that would have prevented a second occurrence is what got me. Do. Not. Play. With. Cancer. I'm so glad I pushed for a hysterectomy when they found tumors in my uterus. Cancer or not, yank that shit out. It's defective
@@asadesanzo1277 MRIs are very hard to get approved through any healthcare provider. Medicare is currently reviewing requiring a Prior Authorization for services to reduce costs. This also is for strait up Medicare not Advantage of Supplemental plans.
i am still so upset for her that they didnt let her initially/talked her out of when she wanted the mastectomy in the first place :( the trauma of not even having a month in between and they almost talked her out of getting further imaging AGAIN? i'm so so glad she pushed
Oh, one thing that isn’t mentioned here (but is on the You Can Sit With Us podcast) is that after Rachel demanded an MRI and the Dr didn’t want to do it, they finally relented and put that the reason she was getting it was for her “Psychological Health”, which is infuriating that that was what it took for it to get approved. The US healthcare system needs a serious overhaul.
I had to demand a dexa scan at 27 because the doctor refused to write the reference. I had early onset Osteopenia and have managed to control and semi reverse it in the last 2 years. I knew I'd have it, but they didnt want to know. This was in Aus
It’s so hard to advocate for yourself when you’re up against “professionals” who don’t regard your whole wellbeing, mental health and physical health, and the words coming out of your mouth. Healthcare should be reorganized to focus on the patients wants and needs.
Its horrible how American health insurances dictate your coverage. People who have no medical background (practitioner level) deciding what is necessary for life sustaining/quality measures and what's not for coverage...
It happens everywhere... I have some "unknown" lumps and no one doesn't want to do an MRI.. and my mom was diagnosed recently with some bad news.. so.. what can I do?
I appreciate how often the Try Guys share and normalize women's health issues. People used to be so uncomfortable talking about it, but there's so much stigma about women's care, women's pain, and talking about it raises more understanding. Thank you. And I'm so glad Rachel was able to get reconfirmation of her health through this. Getting cancer is scary at any age, but especially when young knowing you have so many years ahead to be concerned about recurrence. I completely understand why this was so emotional for her. I'm so thankful she shared her story
I wish you wouldn't refer to this as women's health bc there are plenty of trans men, trans mascs, and nonbinary people erased and pushed out of this life saving care.
@@cannotthinkofaname7904 sorry but biologically female health issue. Gender identity doesn't change what biological organs we are born with, and of course people have to address their health with that in mind. I, as a cis woman, have been stereotyped and dismissed in healthcare for being so. I don't have to change my identity terms for my experiences. It is a verifiable fact through studies that cis women have their pain dismissed and diminished by healthcare providers, and I have had that experience personally. The LGBTQ community has faced plenty of stigmas, but I don't identify with that and cannot speak to that. If you are part of that community, you could share your own experience.
We appreciate the Try Guys and Moms too! We absolutely need to normalize women's health issues and continue to raise awareness on the importance of taking care of our bodies!
I bet that this video was Rachel's idea, and even if it wasn't, it was incredibly generous of her to do this anyway. Not only is it advocating for other women to be educated about their health in general, but also how to advocate for themselves. What a powerful individual to be so incredible as a producer and respected, and also be able to share her vulnerable side.
Rachel is a wonderful and beautiful person that should be protected at all cost. I love this content so much. It is so informative and provides such important information to the public.
I have never heard Rachel’s story previously, but as soon as she looked at the camera, closed her eyes, and breathed that breath that says “I’m about to walk you through what nearly broke me” I immediately knew I needed to watch this somewhere that I could ugly cry. Thank you all for sharing this experience, and your personal stories.
Rachel goes more in depth about her cancer journey on episode 35 of the “You Can Sit With Us” podcast, titled “Rachel’s Cancer Journey”. I highly recommend it. But definitely be prepared to ugly cry for it too. I have no words other than to say that she’s amazing. ❤️
i was sitting here an absolute WRECK at hearing rachel's and tori's experiences with cancer but then at 8:50 tori looks at the camera and says TIDDY PANCAAAAKES and the laugh that gave me was so priceless
Having been diagnosed with breast cancer at 26 with no family history, any time Rachel talks about her medical experience it really hits home. The way that doctors don’t always listen to women and especially the way concerns are dismissed based on age is truly terrifying. I know I would have been diagnosed at an earlier stage if a doctor had taken my concerns seriously, and I’m so sorry Rachel had to go through extra surgeries etc because of this.
Same happened to me... diagnosed at age 27.. almost didn't go to the doctor because various times before when I went because of breast pain they never listened to me or just minimized it saying it was just normal cysts... that time around though I went and by my amazing doctor at the time.. did not let me go until I got a biopsy and then later finally got my diagnosis...
For sure, I had a tumor at age 14 and it took the doctors two years and many visits to the doctor with my parents pleading for more tests for them to find it
It really pisses me off when doctors dismiss any concerns. I had it happen and it’s insulting how they can just barrel through what you are trying to tell them. I haven’t had cancer or anything but definitely had some concerns with pain and such in certain areas of my body.
Rachel is a G for the way she spoke-up for herself. It took me four years to make the doctors listen to me about my chest pain, because they all thought it was "psychosomatic". . . Turns out I had rips in my lungs and literally every rib was broken, plus a hairline fracture along my neck. "Psychosomatic" my ass.
@@Kat31017 They asked the same thing. The said those kinds of injuries usually come from a strong impact, like a car crash. I took one hell of a beating and was in and out of consciousness for nine days, and bedridden for two weeks. "Psychosomatic" .
@@cynacist1823 I'm sorry it happened to you. I hope you're out of this situation. No one should ever hit you like that unless they're trying to kill you.
I feel like every medical student should watch Rachel’s story. They need to understand what their patients are going through and understand it is a partnership to make sure their health is taken care of. I can’t believe she had to advocate for herself every step of the way which kills me. You can see her pain. I hate how all these providers failed her.
it's really hard to balance between the vast majority of 20-somethings with a benign harmless lump and the rare case like Rachel where it's actually something bad to worry about. You don't want to over treat and waste time and resources doing a full gamut of testing for every benign lump but you DEFINITELY don't want to miss a real cancer. it's a shame that rachel's doctors didn't communicate with her properly and walk through her options. i'm glad they caught it in time and she's well now.
@@iwillburyyourgrandma2287 the fact nobody has corrected you yet is scary. MRI stands for Magnetic resonance imaging and uses both magnetic and radio ways. But a clear intense image and can be used to identify what type of mass things could be. CT scans are less intense, I've had both and MRI are literally terrifying. CTs are quick at least but this one saved my life one time actually. They do the same thing but MRI are more intense. Before I got the CT scan, I got an x ray but those are dont show much other than bones & joints which didnt show us what we needed then I got my blood work and boy was my gallbladder as one its last leg and I was about to go septic as my white blood count was high and so used CT to find infection. Once they found it & wanted to get imaging of it they used an ultrasound on my right side because like Rachel told us, it is soundwaves and they didnt want to use additional radiation. She knew she needed an MRI because a CT scan would show a mass, but not clear enough imaging as they need to see the type of mass growth which is identified more MRIs.
Rachel, if another doctor ever tells you not to get an MRI because it’s “too much radiation”, get a new doctor. MRIs don’t have any radiation (CTs have radiation).
Def get checked out. The general rule in Australia is start routine checks at a MINIMUM from 10 years prior to the age at which your close relative was diagnosed. I.e. mum diagnosed at 60, start no later than 50.
As someone with medical PTSD, I appreciate that the doctor validated Rachel's feelings. I've had way too many doctors act like I'm dramatic or overreacting when I get upset during certain tests, and it's so dehumanizing.
I only ever had one medical concern that led to a test, and I was only 14 or 15 at the time. I was given zero explanation or patience. The nurse told me to lay down and open my robe, but I kept my nipples hidden because I was an embarrassed 15-year-old who had never had a medical examination. She IMMEDIATELY pulled my robe off my chest, gave me absolutely zero privacy, and started touching and moving my breasts, putting cold things on me and snapping at me when I flinched. It was like all of a sudden, I wasn't in control of my own body, I couldn't hide, I couldn't say I was uncomfortable, I honestly felt terrified and helpless. I know that I will always be nervous about medical procedures now and just wanted to share my experience to show how important compassion is for even the smallest, most routine procedures - because it wasn't routine to me, and I will never feel comfortable with it again.
I feel you. I have literally gone off on doctors because of their lack of sensitivity which is how my PTSD starts. I get hyper aggressive and defensive when my nervous system starts to get triggered by people going to fast. If I'm not fully awake in the mornign and things are going on I could go the opposite way and cry and curl up in a ball and then if you try to come near me, freak the F out like Wolverine. So the more you tell me, the slower you go and the more you treat me like a human the less likely my nervous sytem will go into adrenal melt down. I'm already coming in with no sleep before appts. or days of no sleep before appts. so I try to warn people and stick with the same nurses and techs whenever possible. I dont have enough breast tissu eto do this exam to begin with so I wouldn't even get it done because I'd imagine tugging on what I have will be very painful and I dont like being touched at all. SO yea. LOL
@@Lucy31315 I feel that. For my first Pap smear, my doctor saw I was nervous and said we could try again next time if I wasn’t comfortable. She said all I had to say was “stop.” Well, I said “stop” over and over again when I experienced excruciating pain, and she kept going. I literally have no trust in doctors anymore.
The doctor being SO kind when Rachel started tearing up at the ultrasound hit so hard. I've been going to doctors nonstop since I was a kid for a variety of illnesses, and medical PTSD is so hard to get over. Even a small amount of compassion and kindness feels huge.
Yup I spent alot of my childhood in hospitals and even though it wasn't life threatening it was so stressful and at times painful for a little kid and I definitely have PTSD when it comes to medical care.
Yep, Ive been in and out of hospitals and services for severe anorexia, bpd, anxiety and now I have ongoing physical issues because of it. I get so fucking anxious going anywhere near medical centres. I cant look at our main hospital here and the last ED visit left me in pieces.
Me too, I sobbed at the dentist yesterday over the numbing needle, they had me do the procedure eithout because they said if I couldn't calm down they would have to sedate me for this small procedure.
i’m sure the whole try guys team has reached out to or at least all heavily support ariel, but honestly I doubt she’d wanna continue being in the videos :(( If I were her i can’t even imagine how I’d feel. It would def be pretty badass if she took his job but I think she’s already occupied with her children and stuff
makes me so happy that the try guys use their platform to normalise and spread awareness on important things like this that don't affect them themselves. thank u guys, it means a lot to your female audience
I definitely agree that they use their platform for good, but men can absolutely get breast cancer. And the disability episode was inspired by the fact that one of the core members of the Try team is disabled. So I'm not sure I see how they use their voice to spread awareness about issues which don't effect them personally. I would love some examples though! /gen
@@KaylaRene thank you for pointing that out - i guess i just meant more that in this video specifically it’s women not men sharing their own experiences and stories, and rachel sharing her unique experience with cancer! i also thought about the trypod episode they did on misogyny against asian women which isn’t something that’s specifically relevant to them personally:) edit: also just to follow up, i’m pretty sure mammograms are not routinely done on men like they are on women, so the focus of the video actually is something that’s not totally relevant to them!
The amount of times women have been dismissed by doctors is horrifying. And men will say they don’t believe that it happens. IT. HAPPENS. Women are brushed aside and it takes so long for them to get approved for life saving surgeries and procedures. I am SO glad that Rachel pushed for it. I adore her and she deserved better!
Oh I am a male who works in the healthcare industry and it happens a lot even in female dominated specialties. Never be afraid to call a Doctor, PA, ARNP to the carpet. Considering my job is to find out when providers screw up, and they do a lot, I see it all day. The fact that the original doctor didn’t order a mamo immediately at finding a lump (which has been SOP for a decade) is shocking.
This happened with my mom. Same sort of reasoning "oh you're too young". They wouldn't take her symptoms seriously, it was brushed off as hormonal. Always push if you feel something it wrong.
I remember being told “you look too pretty to be that sick”…my fucking organ literally rotting inside of me… I hate doctors. There are some exceptions but after so much trauma I can’t help but associate them with hate. I keep business cards of the few good ones to help other avoid as much pain as possible.
I've experienced this so much. From the time I was 14 I've had severe flow with severe pain to the point where I was laying in the bottom of my shower with the water scalding hot on my tummy bawling. Instead of trying to figure out if something was wrong drs would tell me and my dad it was fine and I was being hysterical. By the time I was 20 I would get my period for months non stop with all the pain ect. I gained alot of weight started to grow alot of facial and body hair. They checked me for thyroid but they was it. Finally around 25 my sister in law asked if I had been tested for PCOS. After researching it I had all the signs. I had to demand to be checked. Turned out I have PCOS and uterine polyps and fibroids. If doctors had listened and caught it early I could gotten treatment and it wouldn't have gotten so bad. Now I have to shave my face daily because I grow a full beard and mustache. Its caused me to have severe anxiety and I don't like going in public because even with shaving it's noticeable. Then around 22 I started having bad pain in my side. At the time I still had insurance and my mother in law took me to the doctor. She was with me in the room when the doctor told me in exact words it's because I was fat. Lose weight and it would stop. I kept having the pains for about 2 years then lost insurance and ended up in the ER. Turns out I had gallstones. Because I was uninsured and experiencing financial hardships there was nothing I could do. Finally about 3 years later I had insurance again but I was so sick. Went into surgery and my husband said the surgeon came out and told him my gallbladder was completely dead and going septic and if I had waited maybe a month more i would have died. I've had other issues not as serious but still concerning that I had to fight to be listened too about. Doctors are so worried these days about getting people in and out they don't actually listen. You wait in the room for 20 min see the doctor for 5 min and then that's it. Andvits worse if you're a woman because they say things like we are being hysterical ect.
@@LYMental was it your gallbladder? Sounds similar to what happened to me except It was because I was "fat" and the pains I was having would stop if I lost weight. Didn't even check to see what was causing the pain.
I really appreciated when the doctor mentioned that women of color have to be even more vigilant and ready for conversations about breast cancer. Many people like to push the “we’re all the same” “I don’t see race or color” agenda and I believe, for some it’s well intended, but it’s dangerous. The fact is, we’re not all the same. Ignoring the disparities between us doesn’t help anyone, especially when it comes to health. Women of color are at a much higher risk for certain cancers, sickle cell and various other chronic or life threatening physical and mental illnesses. We have a much shorter life expectancy than white women. We are 4 times more likely to die during child labor than white women. We are also less likely to receive adequate medical care. These are harsh realities that women of color live with and unfortunately these problems have been ignored in medicine for far too long. The medical world either wasn’t ready to, or didn’t care to, talk about the root of the issue; epi-genetics, racially specific generational trauma (i.e slavery, segregation, the holocaust, genocide, abject poverty, etc.) and socio-economic status. We don’t live in a post racial world. Race isn’t superficial, it isn’t just melanin, or a lack thereof, it’s history, generational trauma, shared experiences and communal behaviors. It’s just as much a part of who we are, and just as relevant to conversations about health, as gender, sex, sexual orientation and age. We don’t pretend that male people are the same as female (or intersex) people medically. We don’t pretend that babies are the same as elderly people medically. Why should we pretend that all races are the same medically? I appreciate the new wave of doctors, like the one in this video, who are coming in to the medical field acknowledging this and acting accordingly. I, of course, respect the OGs who have been advocating for race to be taken into account during evaluation, diagnosis and treatment, for years now. We like the Try Guys for stupid humor but they also open the door for important conversations wit videos like this. I love that!
I am a grad student in Psychology and in both my undergrad and grad classes this is a big emphasis. Generations upon generations of systematic racism has led to higher chances of infant mortality and many illnesses for black women. Im glad that at least Purdue, my university, makes this a major point in all classes. Hopefully it is stressed in med school, too. The next gen of healthcare workers will be better informed
I didn't tear up...I bawled... I have a 1.5 year old and a 4 year old, horrible depression, anxiety, adhd, trying to recover from an eating disorder...and taking care of myself is one of the hardest things...that made me bawl because I can't imagine what they may be already learning from me that I don't want them to.
@@athenaamethyst8385 I think you’re forgetting that your kids are learning the most important thing from you -to try. We are all given struggles we would never choose (trust me, I know), but your kids are learning how to work through challenges, because they’re watching you. That’s far more valuable than watching someone be perfect all the time.
@@athenaamethyst8385 Aw sweet girl, I struggle with the same things and my son is 20 months old. I have to remind myself that I can’t pour from an empty cup. I messaged a therapist this week too bc I was on the verge of a break down. Please if you are able to, reach out to a therapist or a loved one for help, sometimes it’s easier to talk to a stranger so I’m here if you need me. Mommas gotta look out for each other.
15:18 I love how the doctor validated her and was compassionate. I had medical PTSD before from a horrible doctor and a series of traumatic medical events with him. Finally stopped it all until I found one amazing doctor after it all that soothed and validated me continually so I could finally get done what needed to be done.
HIGHLY SUGGEST listening to the episode of “You Can Sit With Us” where Rachel tells her cancer story more fully (Episode 35). Such a beautiful story of the bravery and badassery that is Rachel.
I think it’s cool that the breast doctor is wearing a deep v as well. It’s just normalizing like “hey girl don’t worry I’ll show a little flesh too” i find it helpful
@@KillTheCupcakes Some people aren't comfortable being exposed in front of others. Whether the doctor wore a v-neck with the intention of normalising the presence of boob or not, it clearly would make some people more comfortable with undressing.
I could not imagine advocating for myself the way Rachel did at that age. She is such an inspiration and the episode of the try guys podcast she talked about her cancer story is my absolute favorite. Also, I adore Joey and I wish she was in more videos.
The doctor was so supportive and understanding when Rachel became (TOTALLY justifiably) emotional. I wish all health care workers were like this with patients who have past medical trauma. Stay strong Rachel! Your beautiful babies and the person you became are the celebrations of how courageous you are.
The story about that woman’s friend passing at age 26 was just devastating! Three weeks from diagnosis to death is just the saddest thing I could think of.
It's so sad! 3 weeks is not enough time to even come to terms with that information, much less try to figure out everything else. My former BFF's mom had this cough that lasted a few months, but doctors kept telling her she was fine. By the time somebody finally x-rayed her chest and found out she had lung cancer, it had already spread to her brain, liver, and a few other places, too. She died 8 DAYS after she was diagnosed. Only 8 days. On the one hand, she didn't suffer through any cancer treatments, or have to live in pain and misery for years, and that was merciful. However, she never had a chance to even try to fight it. Neither she, nor her family had time to figure out any of it. She died the day before the friend was to be married. She left behind a husband, 4 children, and several grandchildren. 😭
My grandma passed 1 week to the hour of diagnosis from pancreatic cancer after months of being told it was other issues by a female doctor who was her regular doctor and even said that if my grandma hadnt collapsed in the waiting room making them think she had a stroke she probably woulda just givven her higher pain meds
Agreed - and so quickly too. How shocking for her family. I think her name was Genevieve. It gave me pause to hear - I’d never known someone to die from breast cancer. Most often it is that they treat it, it goes into remission and then returns years later elsewhere.
I'm 17 year old female and have always felt awkward talking about this with others, so I am glad that you guys have helped me understand and normalise talking about these type of things. Real wake up call for me, thank you:)
When I was your age, I was so "embarrassed" about things that if I had to by tampons, I refused to go to a male cashier. I'd go so far as to go to a different store to find a female cashier! I'm glad so many people (like the Try Wives) are normalizing this now and to say it's nothing to be embarrassed about. I wish I'd had this when I was younger.
@@janhankins911 I took it a lever further, went to another town to buy tampons so the only drugstore owner/cashier here doesn’t see me buying tampons lol
I love videos like this that help younger generations not feel stigma around such normal anatomy and biological parts of the human body. Between the Try Wives and Mama Dr Jones, I love their perspectives on life and health.
First of all, your body is yours -- you should never feel embarrassed or awkward talking about it. You are the only person who knows what feels "normal" to you, you are the only person that knows what does/does not feel good, you are the only person who can step up and say "hey, I wanna talk about this because..." Second of all, your comment and many of the comments replying to you like @Jan Hankins makes me so sad. Society did you all dirty. The fact that women are made to feel "shame" about their bodies is absolutely stupid. Buy your period products and hold your head high because if men could menstruate, there would be dispensers for products on every corner, and nobody would say nothing to them about it. Carry on.
I can’t overstate how important this video is. The way the video looks at every perspective of breast cancer, from every detail of a mammogram appointment and cancer screening to Rachel telling her story as a patient, is so complete and informative for people of all experiences. I hope all the Try Moms know how appreciated it is that they went through the experience on camera, that Rachel knows how appreciated it is that she shared her experience and vulnerability, and that everyone at Second Try knows how well they did putting this together. It is so well done, thank you for this.
Yep, just watch the You Can Sit with Us podcast! All of the episodes! Rachel is in almost every one of them and you can learn more about her (and the other try wives) in the course of their conversations :)
I hope Rachel, Ariel and the other women in this video realize what a great example they are setting for their children! I’m not sure if all the other women have children but I know Rachel and Ariel are hard working moms who also inspire many other young girls and women. I loved all the women in this videos, they are gorgeous and fun to watch!
They might have just said that because Ariel and Rachel make regular appearances on the channel and the podcast, we don’t know much about the other women. But of course they’re setting a good example as well.
my first mammogram led to an immediate second mammogram, which led to a diagnosis of breast cancer. I got my first mammogram 3 years before my insurance recommended, just because I was being proactive and had no family history. Since my diagnosis, I have learned of so many friends that have/had breast cancer that I had no idea about.
Respect to the women for going through with this. Even with the censors covering , that’s still a very private thing they are allowing to be public all to spread awareness
I’m sure I’ll get lots of comments about this, but as a Nurse I feel compelled to mention that although Breast Cancer is more common in women, men can also have Breast Cancer and would need to get a mammogram.
@@Coraliaism it’s honestly just a lot more uncomfortable for them because they typically have a lot less breast tissue to “pull” away from the chest. I’m also not a mammo tech, I’m an ultrasound tech
I’m glad this video exists. As a young female adult, I have an irrational fear of my private parts being handled, mainly my breasts. When I was younger it included my nether region too, but I slowly grew out of it after a very memorable invasive medical exam and the use of tampons. However I get absolutely repulsed and disgusted at the idea of having my breasts get handled in some way. It feels uncomfortable and it almost always leads down a path of invasive disturbing thoughts. The idea of a mammogram was horrifying to me when I was younger. I like how clear and honest this video is about mammograms. It doesn’t help my irrational fear that much but it helps a little bit.
As a radiographer trained in mammography, I appreciate your candor and am really curious how you reckon you might bridge this gap, if ever? The risk of breast cancer in women is 1 in 8, the leading kind of cancer for women... To validate you and be frank, no woman enjoys attending mammograms. They make us feel vulnerable, and they're simply uncomfortable. But a good radiographer should be able to help alleviate your fears and guide you through this uncomfortable process... And being a radiographer, I'm biased as I believe in modern medicine, so of course I'd strongly advocate for you to attend routine screening to keep you healthy and safe. I suppose I've not come across someone be so open about their strong aversion before, so I find it really interesting to hear how you feel you might go forward with this ....
@@zoedredge Thanks for the concern! My plan is to suck it up and just deal with it when the time comes to start thinking about getting mammogram check ups. I’m not going to shy away from getting them or anything. As much as I dislike being in the situation, I’m still not the kind of person who would panic in the moment about it, so just going and doing is my solution. Granted, I won’t like it, but as you said, a good radiographer will probably help a great deal when the time comes. The video was great because the medical staff seemed very supportive and understanding, which is very much appreciated 😁
I love how the Try Guys are really putting emphasis on women's health and that it's not all scary/extremely traumatizing. It's also important to normalize that cancer can happen in teens, young adulthood, and early adulthood. I was diagnosed with stage 3ovarian cancer at 22 and never thought that could even happen, and there aren't a ton of resources out there about it for us. It's so important to be proactive about your health, and at the end of the day, you know your body more than anyone. Trust your instincts, and if you're at all concerned, go see a doctor/get a second opinion. I wouldn't be alive if I didn't get a second opinion because my doctors said it was an ectopic pregnancy, not a huge ovarian tumor...and at that point, it had metastasized. Thank you Rachel for being brave enough to tell your story and for hopefully encouraging women to continue seeking preventative testing! I would love to hear more/discuss body image and mental health after cancer. Update: I just started my job as a newly graduated oncology RN. I am going to dedicate my life to showing people that there can be more to life than cancer. We can do this.
The Try Guys really coming through with content quality and relevant and IMPORTANT issues. Giving awareness and showing the process so women are not afraid and know what to expect is so so helpful. Kudos to all of you!
for real tho! their balance of entertaining but also educating and letting people with experience speak is so so wonderful, this channel just keeps on feeling like a safe space
Big shoutout to Victoria and Rachel's vulnerability in this video. Tori's grief and anxiousness about losing such a young friend, and the anxiety Rachel pushed through during her ultrasound and telling her story. How incredibly brave of them, and I'm glad to see them healthy and relieved. This is what Rachel was talking about when she said, "on the other side of fear, is the feeling of breathing again for the first time ever."
I feel like I say “Rachel is my hero” after every video she’s in, but goddamn she really is my hero. She is such a strong and incredible women. My admiration for her is endless.
I feel so bad but also empowered by Rachel. My mom had breast cancer and died this year. So nice to see a person living through something so traumatizing like this and still have so much to give to the world. Thanks so much for reminding me of the good things.
I’m 24, and this video taught me more than health class ever did. I’m so, so glad that Rachel shared her story, and the episode of You Can Sit With Us where she talks about it was so eye opening. Thank you to the Tri Guys for having such educational and much needed content on your channel!
The way that Rachel advocated for herself throughout her diagnosis and treatment process, even when medical professionals dismissed her…her story is going to help so many women learn that they can do that for themselves.
I knew Rachel was a special person, dealing with the TryGuys shenanigans, but I had NO clue she’s a FREAKING WARRIOR who has come through one of the scariest experiences a woman can have. Thank you for doing this video!!
If you want to learn more about her journey, she did a special episode on the YCSWU podcast a while back ! She's so inspiring !! (Carefull tho, it's a sad one and you will cry)
Whenever I hear about Rachel's journey I always feel so lucky. As a male that was diagnosed with Testicular cancer just before my 29th birthday (during the first fall of Covid) I realize just how surreal it is to go through what I went through and I cannot imagine how much worse things could have been if I had been put in similar situations as she was. Everyone, get screened regularly for everything you can. Cancer can happen to anyone.
I can’t believe those doctors talked Rachel out of a mastectomy during that first round of chemo and then tried to talk her out of an MRI that ended up saving her life… if they had just listened to her the first time, there’s a good chance that she wouldn’t have had that secondary tumor at all. So frustrating hearing about doctors not listening to their patient’s wishes 😠
Look, we dont know how advanced the tumor was so im just going to talk from what i know from the experience of my aunt. Masectomy is incredibly painfull and super hard to learn to live with and its of a higher risk than just removing the tumor so i understand at certain point why at first it was maybe better for her not to do it. They should have done whatever she wanted tho, its her choice and they are just recomending whats supposed to be best.
I completely understand why they were against it the first time. I think in the 'You Can Sit With Us' episode where she talks more in depth about her cancer journey, she talks about understanding where they were coming from too. However, ignoring her desire for an MRI was ridiculous.
That’s frustrating-I’d be pretty upset-that’s someone’s life in their hands. Meanwhile my mom had carcinoma in situ in one of her breasts (not malignant yet, but close) and they had her undergo a single mastectomy (thankfully she didn’t need chemo). Sometimes it is effective in shrinking the tumor, but there’s a chance it can come back if any cancer cells are still left behind. In other cancer cases sometimes it’s more effective to remove the tumor first and then proceed with chemo. (I’m not a doctor, I work in medical coding and deal with oncology cases all the time).
My mom has breast cancer, but the doctor also talked her out of mastectomy because that’s a bigger surgery, therefore there’s a higher risk of bleeding out and infection
Rachel Cole is the most badass woman I have never met. Listening to her on You Can Sit With Us and again here, I am amazed. Vulnerability, honesty, and grace always. Thank you, Rachel.
Seeing Rachel cry made me cry🥺 I can’t even begin to imagine how this must feel for her. Rachel, thank you for being brave enough to prioritize your health despite your past trauma. You are an inspiration & a warrior!!
If a doctor/nurse denies your request for testing (such as Rachel’s doctor telling her she didn’t need an mri) ASK THEM TO DOCUMENT THAT IN YOUR CHART. Watch them write it down/type it.!! You are your own advocate for YOUR health.! Also I wish Rachel didn’t say “something the guys can’t do” MEN CAN GET MAMMOGRAMS, not as common but they are able to, breast cancer CAN occur in men. I don’t want that being miscommunicated…
I found that line baffling especially when Zach has the BRCA (Breast Cancer) gene from his mother. If you watched the "When Will Try Guys Die" episode, you will know.
Poor Ariel. I hope she’s holding up well. She has the support of all the try guys fans. Ariel, you got this, you can push through and though it’s difficult, we are wired to overcome problems. We all love you!
my grandmother was diagnosed at 48 and had a complete mastectomy. she went into remission a month before i was born. this year she’ll be 23 years cancer free!
As soon as Rachel started talking and tearing up about how she has PTSD from her whole experience I immediately started bawling for her. I've always had such a high respect for her and it just continues to grow. She is the literal definition of a strong empowered badass woman
It’s so sad that if Rachel would have listened to the doctors, she would not be alive today. Women just can’t depend on the medical field to save them, because half the time they will be ignored. You have to literally beg doctors to give you life saving tests, and never take no for an answer. It shouldn’t be this way but it is.
I know this isn’t necessarily and excuse but a lot of this unfortunately comes back to the insurance industry. They honestly back doctors into a corner a lot of the time and unless the patients are willing to take a ridiculous amount of debt on then they struggle to properly treat people. Insurance wants you dead in my opinion 😢
My mom just completed chemo for HER2+ breast cancer. She was diagnosed the same day the You Can Sit With Us podcast about Rachel’s cancer journey dropped. The podcast gave us so much hope. Thank you all for being vulnerable and sharing deeply personal things. I’m happy to say my mom is cancer free after 14 months of grueling chemotherapy. I pray she is part of the 95% that will survive past 5 years since it was caught early in a routine mammogram.
ALWAYS advocate for yourself when dealing with doctors. Rachel's story made my blood boil, she could have died, or gotten to a point where the new cancer was untreatable all because they couldn't hassle themselves to do an MRI.
I'm almost 20 so nowhere near mammogram time but this video ended up being really important to me because I've been avoiding going to the doctor to get a lump checked out and it's given me confidence to schedule an appointment. I'm pretty sure it's all fine but I know I need to go check it out just in case so this came at the perfect time
Mammograms can be low yield on a young, dense breast anyway. Ultrasound is a great (and palatable) modality for you at this stage. Even if it's just fibrocystic changes, ultrasound on a yearly or two-yearly basis is excellent for monitoring. If they see anything suspect, they should send you for limited mammogram or biopsy to correlate anyway.
this is the first mammogram video i’ve seen that actually shows the breast and the whole process. i appreciate it! very educational and nerve soothing!
My maternal grandmother had Breast Cancer and didn't want any of her daughters to know. The doctors wanted her to have a mastectomy but she refused. They removed lymph nodes, did radiation and she remained cancer free for 25+ years until it came back in her spine and unfortunately took her from us. When I finally found out she had Breast Cancer, I talked to my doctor and had my first mammogram when I was 37. Fortunately, the results have been good and I'm now in my 50s. Rachel's story really resonated with me on how doctors really need to listen to their patients.
Rachel’s story always gets me teary eyed. She’s such a strong woman. Truly truly an inspiration, I wish I could hug and thank her personally for being such a huge light in this world
Her statement of "there's always such a tell" is so true. The person who did the ultrasound of my thyroid went from talking quickly to complete silence when she passed over the tumor. Having that moment of, "Oh. I'm looking at my cancer," in the ultrasound is a moment of indescribable fear.
I had a similar experience when I went through a missed miscarriage. The appointment was all chatty and fun and then... very particular questions and silence.
I lost it when Rachel started crying on the table. I was wishing I was there to hold her hand. I love the channel bringing awareness! Love you Try Moms! ❤️
Every time Racheal tells her story, it’s like I’m hearing it for the first time. It’s so sad yet eye opening and beautiful. Rachael is a warrior. She’s so strong.
I'm so glad the Try Mom's did this. I related to Rachel's diagnosis story a lot. When I was 19, I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. I was lucky because my mom is a high-risk ob nurse practitioner who came with me. They called her in when the ultrasound tech saw I had a very concerning ovarian mass. It was reassuring to have my mom explain what they found. It must've been horrible to experience that moment without someone in your corner, while having to fiercely advocate for yourself alone.
Such an incredible lesson learned by this video but especially by Rachel: Never stop advocating for yourself and your health. As a 27 year old woman, I feel so seen in this struggle to be heard by doctors/health professionals when you have concerns..... Or the worries of being belittled and/or made to feel small/insignificant. I'm unbelievably grateful for these amazingly brave women first and foremost for sharing their stories. But I am also grateful for the Try Guys for sharing these stories on their channel. Women's health is a subject that must be discussed and normalized more. All my love and squeezes to Rachel and these women for being a part of this discussion
This is so true and it is really unfortunate. I grew up in Mexico and as soon I turned 12 we were taught about periods, mammograms, papanicolaus, pregnancies and many more topics; however, in here I took a health class during high school and they never taught or mentioned us about these topics. We need to advocate for more education around these areas since it is essential that women know what they need to look up as they grew up. Normally in Mexico they reccomend you to get mammograms and papanicolaous after turning 24 but in here my doctor told me that it was not necessary which made me realize that I needed to change doctors.
When Rachel started crying right before they did the ultrasound i felt that in my soul. I have multiple chronic illnesses that put me at a high risk for cancer. So along with my daily medication of 7 pills a day, blood draws every three months, and infusions of medications once a month, I also have to get MRI's of my abdomen every six moths. Those MRI's scare me more than anything. So far they have been clean, but the fear they they won't be can paralyze me. And even just other medical procedures. Just today I was getting my monthly infusion and I suddenly had a bad reaction to it! I almost went into anaphylaxis and it's terrifying! No one prepares you for being sick like this when you are a teenager/in your early 20's. It's so scary and I'm so proud of Rachel for getting to remission. Praying that I get there soon and so does anyone else who is sick right now ❤
Love that, The Try Guys, are using their platform to bring awareness to all health care. From womens health, mental health, and the Gay community as well. Truly inspiring
the fact that she was told she shouldn’t get an mri because it was “too expensive” is absolutely disgusting. this country is a joke. always listen to your instincts.
Easier said than done when you do not have the money or support you need to pay for it, though. Which is why I have to agree with you there. The US is a joke. A sad one.
This one hit home. I have medical trauma from not being able to say goodbye to my aunt before she passed (thanks covid.) and around the same time I also lost a very close family friend to breast cancer. She was diagnosed at 25, went through the whole shebang, was diagnosed later at 34 with lung cancer, got cleared of that, and then at 42 she got news her breast cancer had come back. She fought hard, but ultimately after all the chemo and radiation she had already gone through had made her body so weak she lost her battle in 2019. She was a good soul and a wonderful lady. She was a great mother and the kind of person you are only blessed to meet in one lifetime. I hope she continues to rest easy knowing everyone she loved still thinks about her every day.
What you are describing is actually grief, medical trauma stems from experiencing a medical issue yourself and how being dehumanized by the "healthcare" system traumatizes people. Your feelings of grief are valid though.
Rachel’s story is wild to me! When I was 16, I found a lump, and my parents took me to a specialist. We went in for the lumpectomy 2 weeks later to get it all out at the same time rather than just a biopsy. Everything was benign, but that day taught me that you are the best and sometimes only advocate for yourself. If you don’t feel comfortable with your diagnosis or the way your doctor is approaching something, get a second opinion. It angers me even more that some women don’t even have access to these resources.
When I was diagnosed with breast cancer I didn’t like my oncologist and was told by many different people I should get a second opinion or see another doctor, but I couldn’t as he was the only oncologist in that area so he was the only doctor covered by my insurance. The US medical system is so screwed up and it makes it really difficult to advocate for yourself to get the best care.
@@carmenattallah6244 I completely agree with you, and there are so many who will just leave things untreated because they can’t afford to see a primary care doctor let alone a specialist! I’m so sorry you had to go through that❤️
Rachel is such an incredibly strong human. My heart broke when she was back experiencing the tests that she associated with what I presume were the hardest days of her life. Wow.
As someone with a history of breast cancer in my family, I'm really happy you were all able to do this on camera. It's uncomfortable and everything, and I thought at 27 I shouldn't bother with screening, but these stories are making me rethink it. Thank you!
Yes very valid! Chronically Ill and I pretty much cry before/after/during doctor/provider visits depending upon how comfortable I feel with the provider, talking about illness can be v triggering and isolating!
Rachel, I’m a young cancer survivor as well at 21, I lost my period through my 9 month treatment. They told me to freeze eggs and I chose not to because I was stage 4. All I want to do is be a mom and my biggest fear is I can’t because of chemo. The fact that you’re a mom makes me just sob. I’m sobbing. It gives me so much hope. Thank you so so much for telling your story. It helped so much. Thank you so much. Just thank you.
A few months ago I had to go to the hospital for something (don't wanna get too into detail) and they told me that what was causing problems for me could be and probably is a result of hidden cancer and recommended I see an OBGYN after my ER stay. I don't have insurance and lost my job recently and I still haven't seen anyone since that night at the ER. I've been so scared every day. I'm only 24 and don't know what to do. I've not even told my best friends the whole truth because I don't want to scare anyone else. I've even been too scared to watch this video because I knew cancer was going to be mentioned... But Rachel's story and everyone else have given me courage and hope. Thank you so much for sharing your stories and experiences and bringing awareness to women's health. Thank you so much, truly. 💖
Everytime I hear Rachel tell her story I'm so angry. She literally had to BEG for the medical screenings she clearly needed, and was dismissed. Doctors need to listen to us!
And the fact that when they found something they made her feel guilty. Saying this is why we don’t order more test because now we found something. That pissed me off!
@@gisfri89 right?! Just the annoyed way they were like "Well this is why we don't wanna tell people they have life threatening diseases, because they get upset about it!" Yeah, no shit! They could possibly die, why wouldn't they be freaking out a bit?
I’m a firm advocate for normalising women’s health tests when they’re younger. Breast and cervical cancer screenings are still too often treated as an issue for older women and as a result, we’ve lost so many amazing young women in their prime to cancers treated like an older woman’s issue. It can strike at any time. I’m often reminded of a story from a woman in the UK, Jade Goody. She was a reality TV star in the early 2000s. She died of cervical cancer at 27. In England, they didn’t even screen for that until the mid-to-late 20s, because as far as they were concerned, young women didn’t get it. By the time it was found, it was already advanced and within months, she was given a terminal diagnosis. She died on March 22nd 2009, 6 months after diagnosis and the UK saw massive changes in younger women looking for early cancer screenings. I don’t know how many women may have been saved by these changes, but it could’ve been upwards of thousands. But a young woman, a mother of two, had to lose her life to prompt that change. Take your health seriously, ladies, and keep checking up on your body. Be open to these tests, even if doctors say it’s not necessary. You never know when it actually really is.
Cervical cancer is one of the deadliest cancers for women around the world. It's so bizarre that they don't want to screen for it "too early" and yet they also want to prevent access to the vaccine for men and "old" women - under the guise that "they've probably had sex by 18 so it's useless" This isn't the '40s, people aren't getting married at 18-22 at high rates anymore, no one has the right to assume your sexual history. And beyond that - the vaccine is still shown to be very effective to people well in their 40s! Don't assume it's over for you just because you've had sex. In the US the HPV vaccine is covered in the US under the ACA up to age 45. Have a conversation with your doctor, advocate for yourself, bring a person if you need to, write your questions or desires down if you want to, go somewhere else if you have to, but please please please put you and your loved ones first - for everything health related, mind you, not just cervical or breast cancers. Anything and everything
Oh my god Rachel's story is so moving and emotional. Every med student needs to watch this and read or listen to others' stories like it. I can only imagine how scary and stressful and frustrating that must have been. I have family and friends who went through very similar situations mainly with cancer. These stories are way too common in this world and something needs to change
Thank you for this. So many families ("traditional"/"conservative") don't have these discussions with their daughters and sons; my family included... A detailed conversation about a doctor's visit is off-limits much like important sex talk... This is eye-opening and so informative. One can do all the research one wants, but to see women of your own age have similar questions/concerns makes one feel vindicated and not-so-dumb-after-all. We aren't "just paranoid," we HAVE TO advocate for our own health; nobody else will.
That is very interesting. At least for my circle of people, this isn't a taboo topic amongst us, even though we are all considered traditional and conservative. It depends on the sub-culture probably.
Absolutely horrifying that Rachel could have died if she didn’t get the MRI, always advocate for yourself when you’re at the doctors, you’re the main person that is going to look out for yourself and you know your own body better than anyone
Even more horrifying that the doc used the “extra radiation excuse,” MRIs don’t even use radiation!
Yall should check out the You Can Sit With Us episode she did about her story. It's even more intense than this video showed. Her Dr genuinely still didn't think the MRI was necessary "because the outcome wouldn't have been much different had they waited until her scheduled follow up." Absolutely unreal to hear her talk about!
We must always advocate for ourselves! I'm so proud of Rachel for doing that, for insisting on the MRI. We all need to be that brave!
What episode ?
@@astan1246 ^ see my comment; I just watched that episode
The way this doctor validated Rachel’s post trauma anxiety is so rare, but seeing it is so wonderful. An intense reaction to an intense memory is totally normal. I sobbed here because it shouldn’t be so hard to be validated by a doctor when you are so scared.
I appreciated that a lot. I've never been through what she has, but I had a medical emergency related to my first pregnancy, and then I had a similar breakdown during my second. Thankfully the doctor that was with me had been there for me during my first, so she knew what was up.
Medical personnel see us in our weakest, most vulnerable moments. Compassion and understanding make a world of difference when you're in that place.
BIG SAME!!!! as a person living with cPTSD her validation struck such a chord with me :')
It was very emotional to watch that bit of the video because I haven't had a doctor yet validate my birth related post trauma anxiety and I was so happy that this doctor did for Rachel.
So true shes so amazing
Agreed, I can't comprehend how much pain she's been through but I immediately was crying with her.
Rachel having to fight with doctors is so common it’s scary. I’m in my twenties and my grandpa had breast cancer. Every time I tell a doctor they doubt me or ask if I meant my grandma. They tell me how rare it is for a male to get it. And I’m always like yeah, that’s why I’m telling you and fighting to get tested. I’m tired of doctors telling me I have MY family history wrong.
My father in law has it too. So many people seem ignorant about male breast cancer. Men can have mammograms and mastectomies too.
literally this!! anyone with breast tissue can get breast cancer; obviously the rates are much higher in women but it's not impossible for men to get breast cancer too. i had to get an ultrasound for what ended up being a benign mass (thank god) and had the same experience as you - the technician asked me if i meant my grandma or asking if i was confused.
My grandfather just finished his treatment for breast cancer, but the first thing they did was genetic testing. Turns out he's one of the rare few men that gets breast cancer without it being genetic, but there was a real concern for a bit that my mom and I could have a gene that would almost guarantee we would get breast cancer. Luckily I have a wonderful obgyn that didn't even blink when I told her. Just asked the pertinent questions and updated my file!
Very frustrating and more people need to realize that men can get Breast Cancer too.
exactly, even if it's rare IT STILL HAPPENS, idk what those doctors are achieving by not believing you??
Rachel is such a fucking superstar. When Rachel started crying before the ultrasound, I started to cry with her. I think in that moment we all felt a time when we were back in a place that was previously very traumatic, and that feeling of PTSD
Yes!!! We cried together. I admire her strength soooooo much!!!
idk why but at that moment u mentioned, i just started bursting out in tears too
Yeah I cried too! I wanted to give her a hug. I’m glad the doctor was kind
I have the same feelings around doctors so I really empathise with that.
Same 😭
The amount if time between toris friend diagnosis, and her passing is horrifying. Even more so when you realize Rachel's was so close to the same timeline. The fight is so hard and anyone who goes though this should be proud. You are incredible person and im glad this could be shared.
Women are so brushed off by doctors.
@@mackenziekirk6030 I don't have full trust in doctors. The fact they were not going to give her an MRI and when she did get one they "complained" that they don't do MRIs because when they find something small people freak out... Of course someone would freak out if there's cancer in them.
As someone who was diagnosed with breat cancer at age 25 I cried hearing Rachel's story and honestly think way more women need to hear our stories.
hey, I hope you're doing well now
That’s understandable and I hope your doing well. Just remember that your a fighter ❤
I hope you’re healthy now, and that it ill never return :)
Hope you are doing well and are a lot better now on October 2023
I think if the doctors would’ve listened to her and done the mastectomy in the first place, I wonder if she would’ve been better off. I know for myself, though I’ve not had cancer, that I’d likely want to go the same route. I say this as someone who’s not only wanted but needed a hysterectomy and was told no by multiple doctors. I was told no because I was either too young or that I hate kids. Now at 41 I’m at the point where I’m always in some kind of pain because of my uterus. Pain that would’ve been avoided had the surgery been done years ago. Even my current OB agrees that it should’ve been done ten+ years ago.
The fact that with Rachel they found something, made her feel guilty about it, and then it ended up being cancer again?? that's so appalling. she knew her body and she knew what she needed and when she was right and cancer tissue was found they had the audacity to say "and that's why we don't do these!". Rachel you are so strong!!
And she *wanted* a mastectomy right away, but had to do chemo & radiation first before they did one anyway!
@@jaynestrange so awful. its amazing to see her strength through it all and how she advocated for herself through it all
Sadly, a lot of doctors (especially male ones, I've found) try to make out that they know our bodies better than us and will pooh-pooh or just flat out refuse to believe a woman when she says there's something wrong. Surely the best qualified person to know that there's something wrong with a part of their body is the person that lives in it every day, knows all its muscles and creases and not a doctor that wouldn't know them if they passed them on the street?
The worst part is, after it was diagnosed as cancer again, she was told that it was still pointless and the outcome probably would have been the same if she had just waited for her scheduled check up. Even after it was shown she was right, that doctor still tried denying shit
@@theekatspajamas and she wouldn’t have had to go through so much if they had done the double mastectomy like she requested. Now that they gave her life time doses of those different treatments what if she gets cancer again. They screwed her over. I’ve seen this type of thing again and again. I’d shed listened to the doctors she would not be here today.
If listening to Rachel have to demand an MRI but being told her insurance won't pay for it did not radicalize you, I don't know what will.
And the fact that her Dr. said it would be more radiation, even tho MRI’s don’t use any radiation at all. Just magnetic and radio waves🤦🏼♀️
The fact that they talked her out of the surgery that would have prevented a second occurrence is what got me. Do. Not. Play. With. Cancer. I'm so glad I pushed for a hysterectomy when they found tumors in my uterus. Cancer or not, yank that shit out. It's defective
@@Rogue1717 you got a hysterectomy? How old are you if you don’t mind me asking? I’m actually getting a myomectomy and considered a hysterectomy
@@asadesanzo1277 MRIs are very hard to get approved through any healthcare provider. Medicare is currently reviewing requiring a Prior Authorization for services to reduce costs. This also is for strait up Medicare not Advantage of Supplemental plans.
I was 30 when I got mine in Orlando, FL. 42 now
The way that Rachel trusted her intuition and pushed for what she needed was so inspiring. I love that her story was able to be shared in this video.
you should watch the podcast too! she talks more in depth about the whole thing, it was a powerful story
i am still so upset for her that they didnt let her initially/talked her out of when she wanted the mastectomy in the first place :( the trauma of not even having a month in between and they almost talked her out of getting further imaging AGAIN? i'm so so glad she pushed
Oh, one thing that isn’t mentioned here (but is on the You Can Sit With Us podcast) is that after Rachel demanded an MRI and the Dr didn’t want to do it, they finally relented and put that the reason she was getting it was for her “Psychological Health”, which is infuriating that that was what it took for it to get approved. The US healthcare system needs a serious overhaul.
It's functioning as intended but it was never intended to help the citizens
I had to demand a dexa scan at 27 because the doctor refused to write the reference. I had early onset Osteopenia and have managed to control and semi reverse it in the last 2 years. I knew I'd have it, but they didnt want to know. This was in Aus
It’s so hard to advocate for yourself when you’re up against “professionals” who don’t regard your whole wellbeing, mental health and physical health, and the words coming out of your mouth. Healthcare should be reorganized to focus on the patients wants and needs.
Its horrible how American health insurances dictate your coverage. People who have no medical background (practitioner level) deciding what is necessary for life sustaining/quality measures and what's not for coverage...
It happens everywhere... I have some "unknown" lumps and no one doesn't want to do an MRI.. and my mom was diagnosed recently with some bad news.. so.. what can I do?
I appreciate how often the Try Guys share and normalize women's health issues. People used to be so uncomfortable talking about it, but there's so much stigma about women's care, women's pain, and talking about it raises more understanding. Thank you. And I'm so glad Rachel was able to get reconfirmation of her health through this. Getting cancer is scary at any age, but especially when young knowing you have so many years ahead to be concerned about recurrence. I completely understand why this was so emotional for her. I'm so thankful she shared her story
Yep. No one could blame Rachel for her tears. I'd have been balling like a baby.
I wish you wouldn't refer to this as women's health bc there are plenty of trans men, trans mascs, and nonbinary people erased and pushed out of this life saving care.
@@cannotthinkofaname7904 You're absolutely right! We need to get used to thinking in broader terms.
@@cannotthinkofaname7904 sorry but biologically female health issue. Gender identity doesn't change what biological organs we are born with, and of course people have to address their health with that in mind. I, as a cis woman, have been stereotyped and dismissed in healthcare for being so. I don't have to change my identity terms for my experiences. It is a verifiable fact through studies that cis women have their pain dismissed and diminished by healthcare providers, and I have had that experience personally. The LGBTQ community has faced plenty of stigmas, but I don't identify with that and cannot speak to that. If you are part of that community, you could share your own experience.
We appreciate the Try Guys and Moms too! We absolutely need to normalize women's health issues and continue to raise awareness on the importance of taking care of our bodies!
I bet that this video was Rachel's idea, and even if it wasn't, it was incredibly generous of her to do this anyway. Not only is it advocating for other women to be educated about their health in general, but also how to advocate for themselves. What a powerful individual to be so incredible as a producer and respected, and also be able to share her vulnerable side.
Rachel is such a brave person. I couldn't imagine.
So strue shes so strong
Exactly, I got teary when she was getting upset. I bet getting it done did bring up some scary thoughts.
Im so glad that she advocated for herself.
Rachel is a wonderful and beautiful person that should be protected at all cost.
I love this content so much. It is so informative and provides such important information to the public.
She is eternally in my prayers. So strong. So vibrant. Such a CHAMPION❤️❤️❤️
I have never heard Rachel’s story previously, but as soon as she looked at the camera, closed her eyes, and breathed that breath that says “I’m about to walk you through what nearly broke me” I immediately knew I needed to watch this somewhere that I could ugly cry. Thank you all for sharing this experience, and your personal stories.
Rachel spent a whole episode of the try wives’ podcast You Can Sit With Us talking about her story- highly recommend. It’s a real tear jerker
@@kyliecarter9603 yes! It’s amazing and heartbreaking and infuriating and beautifully conveyed by Rachel.
Rachel goes more in depth about her cancer journey on episode 35 of the “You Can Sit With Us” podcast, titled “Rachel’s Cancer Journey”. I highly recommend it. But definitely be prepared to ugly cry for it too. I have no words other than to say that she’s amazing. ❤️
Ariel has always been such a delight and seems like a good person. She doesn’t deserve this even if she wasn’t a sweetheart.
I fucking know right? She OOZES life everytime, and kindness, good god
Reaaaaally not the place for this comment though. Even though I agree.
@@bellapalmera Cry
And she’s soooo pretty. She doesn’t deserve that trash PERIODT.
what do you meam by "even tho she wasn't a sweetheart"?
i was sitting here an absolute WRECK at hearing rachel's and tori's experiences with cancer but then at 8:50 tori looks at the camera and says TIDDY PANCAAAAKES and the laugh that gave me was so priceless
yes lol Tori is amazing!
Having been diagnosed with breast cancer at 26 with no family history, any time Rachel talks about her medical experience it really hits home. The way that doctors don’t always listen to women and especially the way concerns are dismissed based on age is truly terrifying. I know I would have been diagnosed at an earlier stage if a doctor had taken my concerns seriously, and I’m so sorry Rachel had to go through extra surgeries etc because of this.
Same happened to me... diagnosed at age 27.. almost didn't go to the doctor because various times before when I went because of breast pain they never listened to me or just minimized it saying it was just normal cysts... that time around though I went and by my amazing doctor at the time.. did not let me go until I got a biopsy and then later finally got my diagnosis...
Oh my goodness, me, too!
For sure, I had a tumor at age 14 and it took the doctors two years and many visits to the doctor with my parents pleading for more tests for them to find it
It really pisses me off when doctors dismiss any concerns. I had it happen and it’s insulting how they can just barrel through what you are trying to tell them. I haven’t had cancer or anything but definitely had some concerns with pain and such in certain areas of my body.
What stage did they catch you at? I hear two most commonly. I pray to god they caught you before 4.
Rachel is a G for the way she spoke-up for herself. It took me four years to make the doctors listen to me about my chest pain, because they all thought it was "psychosomatic". . . Turns out I had rips in my lungs and literally every rib was broken, plus a hairline fracture along my neck. "Psychosomatic" my ass.
how did that happen, were u in an accident?
@@Kat31017 They asked the same thing. The said those kinds of injuries usually come from a strong impact, like a car crash. I took one hell of a beating and was in and out of consciousness for nine days, and bedridden for two weeks. "Psychosomatic" .
@@cynacist1823 I'm sorry it happened to you. I hope you're out of this situation. No one should ever hit you like that unless they're trying to kill you.
@@susiem.2068 He was trying to kill me
@@cynacist1823 nobody should hit you like that period
I feel like every medical student should watch Rachel’s story. They need to understand what their patients are going through and understand it is a partnership to make sure their health is taken care of. I can’t believe she had to advocate for herself every step of the way which kills me. You can see her pain. I hate how all these providers failed her.
and the fact that mri's don't have radiation... that's a ct scan
it's really hard to balance between the vast majority of 20-somethings with a benign harmless lump and the rare case like Rachel where it's actually something bad to worry about. You don't want to over treat and waste time and resources doing a full gamut of testing for every benign lump but you DEFINITELY don't want to miss a real cancer. it's a shame that rachel's doctors didn't communicate with her properly and walk through her options. i'm glad they caught it in time and she's well now.
Heartbreaking
Medical students should understand but it’s always about money
@@iwillburyyourgrandma2287 the fact nobody has corrected you yet is scary. MRI stands for Magnetic resonance imaging and uses both magnetic and radio ways. But a clear intense image and can be used to identify what type of mass things could be. CT scans are less intense, I've had both and MRI are literally terrifying. CTs are quick at least but this one saved my life one time actually. They do the same thing but MRI are more intense. Before I got the CT scan, I got an x ray but those are dont show much other than bones & joints which didnt show us what we needed then I got my blood work and boy was my gallbladder as one its last leg and I was about to go septic as my white blood count was high and so used CT to find infection. Once they found it & wanted to get imaging of it they used an ultrasound on my right side because like Rachel told us, it is soundwaves and they didnt want to use additional radiation. She knew she needed an MRI because a CT scan would show a mass, but not clear enough imaging as they need to see the type of mass growth which is identified more MRIs.
Rachel, if another doctor ever tells you not to get an MRI because it’s “too much radiation”, get a new doctor. MRIs don’t have any radiation (CTs have radiation).
As someone who went to school for this I was frantically searching for this comment!
Yes, either the doctor was a liar, an idiot, or it’s possible that Rachel confused a PET-CT with an MRI when she told the story.
i was thinking about that for a while lmao. "isn't it... magnets??"
Yep, MRI - Magnetic Resonance Imaging.
@@mercedesshemanski5294 me too!!
This helped me realize I should get myself tested. I am only 32 but my mom and aunt have had breast cancer. Rachel made me cry. Love all you girls
Proud of you for taking care of yourself! Def get checked out!
Def get checked out. The general rule in Australia is start routine checks at a MINIMUM from 10 years prior to the age at which your close relative was diagnosed. I.e. mum diagnosed at 60, start no later than 50.
I'm so glad this video gave you the push you needed to get checked out. Stay healthy!! Hugs!
As someone with medical PTSD, I appreciate that the doctor validated Rachel's feelings. I've had way too many doctors act like I'm dramatic or overreacting when I get upset during certain tests, and it's so dehumanizing.
Same I was so glad to see the automatic validation given
I only ever had one medical concern that led to a test, and I was only 14 or 15 at the time. I was given zero explanation or patience. The nurse told me to lay down and open my robe, but I kept my nipples hidden because I was an embarrassed 15-year-old who had never had a medical examination. She IMMEDIATELY pulled my robe off my chest, gave me absolutely zero privacy, and started touching and moving my breasts, putting cold things on me and snapping at me when I flinched. It was like all of a sudden, I wasn't in control of my own body, I couldn't hide, I couldn't say I was uncomfortable, I honestly felt terrified and helpless. I know that I will always be nervous about medical procedures now and just wanted to share my experience to show how important compassion is for even the smallest, most routine procedures - because it wasn't routine to me, and I will never feel comfortable with it again.
I don’t have medical ptsd just a fear of doctors and one time I started freaking out and the nurse told me “my five year old acts better than you”
I feel you. I have literally gone off on doctors because of their lack of sensitivity which is how my PTSD starts. I get hyper aggressive and defensive when my nervous system starts to get triggered by people going to fast. If I'm not fully awake in the mornign and things are going on I could go the opposite way and cry and curl up in a ball and then if you try to come near me, freak the F out like Wolverine. So the more you tell me, the slower you go and the more you treat me like a human the less likely my nervous sytem will go into adrenal melt down. I'm already coming in with no sleep before appts. or days of no sleep before appts. so I try to warn people and stick with the same nurses and techs whenever possible. I dont have enough breast tissu eto do this exam to begin with so I wouldn't even get it done because I'd imagine tugging on what I have will be very painful and I dont like being touched at all. SO yea. LOL
@@Lucy31315 I feel that. For my first Pap smear, my doctor saw I was nervous and said we could try again next time if I wasn’t comfortable. She said all I had to say was “stop.” Well, I said “stop” over and over again when I experienced excruciating pain, and she kept going. I literally have no trust in doctors anymore.
The doctor being SO kind when Rachel started tearing up at the ultrasound hit so hard. I've been going to doctors nonstop since I was a kid for a variety of illnesses, and medical PTSD is so hard to get over. Even a small amount of compassion and kindness feels huge.
Yup I spent alot of my childhood in hospitals and even though it wasn't life threatening it was so stressful and at times painful for a little kid and I definitely have PTSD when it comes to medical care.
Yep, Ive been in and out of hospitals and services for severe anorexia, bpd, anxiety and now I have ongoing physical issues because of it. I get so fucking anxious going anywhere near medical centres. I cant look at our main hospital here and the last ED visit left me in pieces.
@@SerCalliope 1!)^
Me too, I sobbed at the dentist yesterday over the numbing needle, they had me do the procedure eithout because they said if I couldn't calm down they would have to sedate me for this small procedure.
Can we keep seeing Ariel, please ?? Only if she wants to, of course.
i’m sure the whole try guys team has reached out to or at least all heavily support ariel, but honestly I doubt she’d wanna continue being in the videos :(( If I were her i can’t even imagine how I’d feel. It would def be pretty badass if she took his job but I think she’s already occupied with her children and stuff
Hoping she'll at least stay on the podcast
I never even thought about that omg! noo I'll be so sad if she's never in a video again :(
No more...
@@akreeger7742 the only way I can see her doing that is addressing anything first… which I don’t see her doing for a lonngggg time or ever honestly
makes me so happy that the try guys use their platform to normalise and spread awareness on important things like this that don't affect them themselves. thank u guys, it means a lot to your female audience
I completely agree!
I definitely agree that they use their platform for good, but men can absolutely get breast cancer. And the disability episode was inspired by the fact that one of the core members of the Try team is disabled. So I'm not sure I see how they use their voice to spread awareness about issues which don't effect them personally. I would love some examples though! /gen
@@KaylaRene Zach also has BRCA1
@@KaylaRene thank you for pointing that out - i guess i just meant more that in this video specifically it’s women not men sharing their own experiences and stories, and rachel sharing her unique experience with cancer! i also thought about the trypod episode they did on misogyny against asian women which isn’t something that’s specifically relevant to them personally:)
edit: also just to follow up, i’m pretty sure mammograms are not routinely done on men like they are on women, so the focus of the video actually is something that’s not totally relevant to them!
@@taliag09 I completely forgot about that, thank for for the reminder!
The amount of times women have been dismissed by doctors is horrifying. And men will say they don’t believe that it happens. IT. HAPPENS. Women are brushed aside and it takes so long for them to get approved for life saving surgeries and procedures.
I am SO glad that Rachel pushed for it. I adore her and she deserved better!
Oh I am a male who works in the healthcare industry and it happens a lot even in female dominated specialties. Never be afraid to call a Doctor, PA, ARNP to the carpet. Considering my job is to find out when providers screw up, and they do a lot, I see it all day. The fact that the original doctor didn’t order a mamo immediately at finding a lump (which has been SOP for a decade) is shocking.
This happened with my mom. Same sort of reasoning "oh you're too young". They wouldn't take her symptoms seriously, it was brushed off as hormonal. Always push if you feel something it wrong.
I remember being told “you look too pretty to be that sick”…my fucking organ literally rotting inside of me… I hate doctors. There are some exceptions but after so much trauma I can’t help but associate them with hate. I keep business cards of the few good ones to help other avoid as much pain as possible.
I've experienced this so much. From the time I was 14 I've had severe flow with severe pain to the point where I was laying in the bottom of my shower with the water scalding hot on my tummy bawling. Instead of trying to figure out if something was wrong drs would tell me and my dad it was fine and I was being hysterical. By the time I was 20 I would get my period for months non stop with all the pain ect. I gained alot of weight started to grow alot of facial and body hair. They checked me for thyroid but they was it. Finally around 25 my sister in law asked if I had been tested for PCOS. After researching it I had all the signs. I had to demand to be checked. Turned out I have PCOS and uterine polyps and fibroids. If doctors had listened and caught it early I could gotten treatment and it wouldn't have gotten so bad. Now I have to shave my face daily because I grow a full beard and mustache. Its caused me to have severe anxiety and I don't like going in public because even with shaving it's noticeable. Then around 22 I started having bad pain in my side. At the time I still had insurance and my mother in law took me to the doctor. She was with me in the room when the doctor told me in exact words it's because I was fat. Lose weight and it would stop. I kept having the pains for about 2 years then lost insurance and ended up in the ER. Turns out I had gallstones. Because I was uninsured and experiencing financial hardships there was nothing I could do. Finally about 3 years later I had insurance again but I was so sick. Went into surgery and my husband said the surgeon came out and told him my gallbladder was completely dead and going septic and if I had waited maybe a month more i would have died. I've had other issues not as serious but still concerning that I had to fight to be listened too about. Doctors are so worried these days about getting people in and out they don't actually listen. You wait in the room for 20 min see the doctor for 5 min and then that's it. Andvits worse if you're a woman because they say things like we are being hysterical ect.
@@LYMental was it your gallbladder? Sounds similar to what happened to me except It was because I was "fat" and the pains I was having would stop if I lost weight. Didn't even check to see what was causing the pain.
I really appreciated when the doctor mentioned that women of color have to be even more vigilant and ready for conversations about breast cancer. Many people like to push the “we’re all the same” “I don’t see race or color” agenda and I believe, for some it’s well intended, but it’s dangerous. The fact is, we’re not all the same. Ignoring the disparities between us doesn’t help anyone, especially when it comes to health. Women of color are at a much higher risk for certain cancers, sickle cell and various other chronic or life threatening physical and mental illnesses. We have a much shorter life expectancy than white women. We are 4 times more likely to die during child labor than white women. We are also less likely to receive adequate medical care. These are harsh realities that women of color live with and unfortunately these problems have been ignored in medicine for far too long. The medical world either wasn’t ready to, or didn’t care to, talk about the root of the issue; epi-genetics, racially specific generational trauma (i.e slavery, segregation, the holocaust, genocide, abject poverty, etc.) and socio-economic status. We don’t live in a post racial world. Race isn’t superficial, it isn’t just melanin, or a lack thereof, it’s history, generational trauma, shared experiences and communal behaviors. It’s just as much a part of who we are, and just as relevant to conversations about health, as gender, sex, sexual orientation and age. We don’t pretend that male people are the same as female (or intersex) people medically. We don’t pretend that babies are the same as elderly people medically. Why should we pretend that all races are the same medically? I appreciate the new wave of doctors, like the one in this video, who are coming in to the medical field acknowledging this and acting accordingly. I, of course, respect the OGs who have been advocating for race to be taken into account during evaluation, diagnosis and treatment, for years now. We like the Try Guys for stupid humor but they also open the door for important conversations wit videos like this. I love that!
Sorry that’s quite long. Also, the time stamp: 18:40
I am a grad student in Psychology and in both my undergrad and grad classes this is a big emphasis. Generations upon generations of systematic racism has led to higher chances of infant mortality and many illnesses for black women. Im glad that at least Purdue, my university, makes this a major point in all classes. Hopefully it is stressed in med school, too. The next gen of healthcare workers will be better informed
@@hillarybolton5823 I'm also in school for psychology. I am glad that your school points these issues out. It's important.
Wow, I love your comment even though I’m neither black nor white. I’m also studying Psychology!
Women of colour and also Jewish women. A variety of genetic illnesses are way more common in Jewish communities
The little kid holding Rachel's hand as her head was getting shaved was so sweet 🥺❤ Rachel is so strong
Also, did anyone else tear up at Ariel saying “I need to make sure I take care of myself so you can learn to take care of yourself”
As a mom to two little ones, I empathized greatly with that sentiment.
I didn't tear up...I bawled... I have a 1.5 year old and a 4 year old, horrible depression, anxiety, adhd, trying to recover from an eating disorder...and taking care of myself is one of the hardest things...that made me bawl because I can't imagine what they may be already learning from me that I don't want them to.
@@athenaamethyst8385 I think you’re forgetting that your kids are learning the most important thing from you -to try. We are all given struggles we would never choose (trust me, I know), but your kids are learning how to work through challenges, because they’re watching you. That’s far more valuable than watching someone be perfect all the time.
Yes, because my mom never realized that lol
@@athenaamethyst8385 Aw sweet girl, I struggle with the same things and my son is 20 months old. I have to remind myself that I can’t pour from an empty cup. I messaged a therapist this week too bc I was on the verge of a break down. Please if you are able to, reach out to a therapist or a loved one for help, sometimes it’s easier to talk to a stranger so I’m here if you need me. Mommas gotta look out for each other.
15:18 I love how the doctor validated her and was compassionate. I had medical PTSD before from a horrible doctor and a series of traumatic medical events with him. Finally stopped it all until I found one amazing doctor after it all that soothed and validated me continually so I could finally get done what needed to be done.
HIGHLY SUGGEST listening to the episode of “You Can Sit With Us” where Rachel tells her cancer story more fully (Episode 35). Such a beautiful story of the bravery and badassery that is Rachel.
Hi, could you tell me which episode it is?
@@nataliadegis261 ^ the link above, it's an amazing episode
@@nataliadegis261 episode 35
@@cupidre1 thank u
This has to be a top comment
Try Moms went from sky diving to getting mammograms; truly covering all what Try Guys can't do
Bahahahaha
I cried during both 🙈
lmaooo this comment is so underrated, it's hilarious
I think it’s cool that the breast doctor is wearing a deep v as well. It’s just normalizing like “hey girl don’t worry I’ll show a little flesh too” i find it helpful
Lmfao what
@@KillTheCupcakes Some people aren't comfortable being exposed in front of others. Whether the doctor wore a v-neck with the intention of normalising the presence of boob or not, it clearly would make some people more comfortable with undressing.
@@sentienttapioca5409 well some people might find it uncomfortable soooo
That would make me even more uncomfortable lol
Fr I would feel so much more comfortable getting my tiddies looked at by a doctor if they had a deep v. It doesn't seem like much but it does help
I could not imagine advocating for myself the way Rachel did at that age. She is such an inspiration and the episode of the try guys podcast she talked about her cancer story is my absolute favorite.
Also, I adore Joey and I wish she was in more videos.
Especially! At that age. I know I wouldn't have spoke up like that at that age.
The doctor was so supportive and understanding when Rachel became (TOTALLY justifiably) emotional. I wish all health care workers were like this with patients who have past medical trauma. Stay strong Rachel! Your beautiful babies and the person you became are the celebrations of how courageous you are.
It is sad that this is going to be the last time we're going to see Ariel smile and be in a video
I know right ?
She is soo sweet and she doesn’t deserve to be treated like that especially from her HUSBAND
I’m so sad for her
I haven't watched the try guys in a while, so yall made curious to search what happened, and what in the flying FUCK Ned???
alex a better choice tbh w ned
@@PoopHippie Uhm one how and two not when ur cheating with someone who had a fiancée for 10 years
@@UncleIrohs ned can do way better and he did with alex all imna say
The story about that woman’s friend passing at age 26 was just devastating! Three weeks from diagnosis to death is just the saddest thing I could think of.
It's so sad! 3 weeks is not enough time to even come to terms with that information, much less try to figure out everything else. My former BFF's mom had this cough that lasted a few months, but doctors kept telling her she was fine. By the time somebody finally x-rayed her chest and found out she had lung cancer, it had already spread to her brain, liver, and a few other places, too. She died 8 DAYS after she was diagnosed. Only 8 days. On the one hand, she didn't suffer through any cancer treatments, or have to live in pain and misery for years, and that was merciful. However, she never had a chance to even try to fight it. Neither she, nor her family had time to figure out any of it. She died the day before the friend was to be married. She left behind a husband, 4 children, and several grandchildren. 😭
My grandma passed 1 week to the hour of diagnosis from pancreatic cancer after months of being told it was other issues by a female doctor who was her regular doctor and even said that if my grandma hadnt collapsed in the waiting room making them think she had a stroke she probably woulda just givven her higher pain meds
@@penelopehubbard7585 I'm so sorry that happened to her! How awful! I hope you and your family are able to find peace.
Agreed - and so quickly too. How shocking for her family. I think her name was Genevieve.
It gave me pause to hear - I’d never known someone to die from breast cancer. Most often it is that they treat it, it goes into remission and then returns years later elsewhere.
@@chrisbecker4412 oh my god that’s so scary 😭
I’m currently battling breast cancer, this was a lot I think I cried throughout this whole video. Thank you for spreading awareness.
Sending you lots of love💕
❤️❤️❤️
All the best tiffany! You can do this :DD ❤️❤️
Sending you lots of courage ♡
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Rachel is absolutely a hero for staring down a big fear on camera. I'm so glad she's still with us to tell the story.
I'm 17 year old female and have always felt awkward talking about this with others, so I am glad that you guys have helped me understand and normalise talking about these type of things. Real wake up call for me, thank you:)
When I was your age, I was so "embarrassed" about things that if I had to by tampons, I refused to go to a male cashier. I'd go so far as to go to a different store to find a female cashier! I'm glad so many people (like the Try Wives) are normalizing this now and to say it's nothing to be embarrassed about. I wish I'd had this when I was younger.
@@janhankins911 I took it a lever further, went to another town to buy tampons so the only drugstore owner/cashier here doesn’t see me buying tampons lol
I love videos like this that help younger generations not feel stigma around such normal anatomy and biological parts of the human body. Between the Try Wives and Mama Dr Jones, I love their perspectives on life and health.
@@leahw1117 I love Mama Dr. Jones!!
First of all, your body is yours -- you should never feel embarrassed or awkward talking about it. You are the only person who knows what feels "normal" to you, you are the only person that knows what does/does not feel good, you are the only person who can step up and say "hey, I wanna talk about this because..."
Second of all, your comment and many of the comments replying to you like @Jan Hankins makes me so sad. Society did you all dirty. The fact that women are made to feel "shame" about their bodies is absolutely stupid. Buy your period products and hold your head high because if men could menstruate, there would be dispensers for products on every corner, and nobody would say nothing to them about it. Carry on.
I can’t overstate how important this video is. The way the video looks at every perspective of breast cancer, from every detail of a mammogram appointment and cancer screening to Rachel telling her story as a patient, is so complete and informative for people of all experiences. I hope all the Try Moms know how appreciated it is that they went through the experience on camera, that Rachel knows how appreciated it is that she shared her experience and vulnerability, and that everyone at Second Try knows how well they did putting this together. It is so well done, thank you for this.
I hope Ariel can still be in more videos even tho Ned got fired.
Me too I love her
Idk if his contract screwed her. I hope it didn't!
who is ned?
@@hollycatee he's irrelevant
I also hope she would feel comfortable enough to do that. 😖
I think we need a "Rachel tells her life"-series. The more I see of her the more I want to know. Rachel, you are awesome!
Agreed!!!
If you haven't see it, you should watch Rachel's Cancer Journey - You Can Sit With Us Ep. 35
Yep, just watch the You Can Sit with Us podcast! All of the episodes! Rachel is in almost every one of them and you can learn more about her (and the other try wives) in the course of their conversations :)
I just need more of Rachel anytime anywhere ❤️
She shares a bunch on You Can Sit With Us!
I hope Rachel, Ariel and the other women in this video realize what a great example they are setting for their children! I’m not sure if all the other women have children but I know Rachel and Ariel are hard working moms who also inspire many other young girls and women. I loved all the women in this videos, they are gorgeous and fun to watch!
The others aren't?
all the women in this video are moms i believe lol so they're all setting a great example for their children
@@itsmikki44 I was hoping they just didn't know all of their names but, we know what kind of audience this can be. 😬
They might have just said that because Ariel and Rachel make regular appearances on the channel and the podcast, we don’t know much about the other women. But of course they’re setting a good example as well.
@@tmbline ofcourse they are, but I don’t know for sure if they have kids yet or not. Any way they all make a great influence on our next generation!
my first mammogram led to an immediate second mammogram, which led to a diagnosis of breast cancer. I got my first mammogram 3 years before my insurance recommended, just because I was being proactive and had no family history. Since my diagnosis, I have learned of so many friends that have/had breast cancer that I had no idea about.
Respect to the women for going through with this. Even with the censors covering , that’s still a very private thing they are allowing to be public all to spread awareness
I’m sure I’ll get lots of comments about this, but as a Nurse I feel compelled to mention that although Breast Cancer is more common in women, men can also have Breast Cancer and would need to get a mammogram.
How do they fit their chest in the machine? Honest question.
Thanks for commenting! Also, let’s be inclusive to trans men
For smaller chested people ( where the boob is too small to fit in the mammogram), they can use an ultrasound machine.
@@Coraliaism it’s honestly just a lot more uncomfortable for them because they typically have a lot less breast tissue to “pull” away from the chest. I’m also not a mammo tech, I’m an ultrasound tech
@@Coraliaism the same way they would for a woman that does not have a lot of breast tissue or is “flat chested.”
I’m glad this video exists. As a young female adult, I have an irrational fear of my private parts being handled, mainly my breasts. When I was younger it included my nether region too, but I slowly grew out of it after a very memorable invasive medical exam and the use of tampons. However I get absolutely repulsed and disgusted at the idea of having my breasts get handled in some way. It feels uncomfortable and it almost always leads down a path of invasive disturbing thoughts. The idea of a mammogram was horrifying to me when I was younger. I like how clear and honest this video is about mammograms. It doesn’t help my irrational fear that much but it helps a little bit.
As a radiographer trained in mammography, I appreciate your candor and am really curious how you reckon you might bridge this gap, if ever? The risk of breast cancer in women is 1 in 8, the leading kind of cancer for women... To validate you and be frank, no woman enjoys attending mammograms. They make us feel vulnerable, and they're simply uncomfortable. But a good radiographer should be able to help alleviate your fears and guide you through this uncomfortable process... And being a radiographer, I'm biased as I believe in modern medicine, so of course I'd strongly advocate for you to attend routine screening to keep you healthy and safe.
I suppose I've not come across someone be so open about their strong aversion before, so I find it really interesting to hear how you feel you might go forward with this ....
@@zoedredge Thanks for the concern! My plan is to suck it up and just deal with it when the time comes to start thinking about getting mammogram check ups. I’m not going to shy away from getting them or anything. As much as I dislike being in the situation, I’m still not the kind of person who would panic in the moment about it, so just going and doing is my solution. Granted, I won’t like it, but as you said, a good radiographer will probably help a great deal when the time comes. The video was great because the medical staff seemed very supportive and understanding, which is very much appreciated 😁
I'm the opposite x.x it's a challenge
I love how the Try Guys are really putting emphasis on women's health and that it's not all scary/extremely traumatizing. It's also important to normalize that cancer can happen in teens, young adulthood, and early adulthood. I was diagnosed with stage 3ovarian cancer at 22 and never thought that could even happen, and there aren't a ton of resources out there about it for us. It's so important to be proactive about your health, and at the end of the day, you know your body more than anyone. Trust your instincts, and if you're at all concerned, go see a doctor/get a second opinion. I wouldn't be alive if I didn't get a second opinion because my doctors said it was an ectopic pregnancy, not a huge ovarian tumor...and at that point, it had metastasized. Thank you Rachel for being brave enough to tell your story and for hopefully encouraging women to continue seeking preventative testing!
I would love to hear more/discuss body image and mental health after cancer.
Update: I just started my job as a newly graduated oncology RN. I am going to dedicate my life to showing people that there can be more to life than cancer. We can do this.
The Try Guys really coming through with content quality and relevant and IMPORTANT issues. Giving awareness and showing the process so women are not afraid and know what to expect is so so helpful. Kudos to all of you!
THIS x1000000000000000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for real tho! their balance of entertaining but also educating and letting people with experience speak is so so wonderful, this channel just keeps on feeling like a safe space
Big shoutout to Victoria and Rachel's vulnerability in this video. Tori's grief and anxiousness about losing such a young friend, and the anxiety Rachel pushed through during her ultrasound and telling her story. How incredibly brave of them, and I'm glad to see them healthy and relieved. This is what Rachel was talking about when she said, "on the other side of fear, is the feeling of breathing again for the first time ever."
I feel like I say “Rachel is my hero” after every video she’s in, but goddamn she really is my hero. She is such a strong and incredible women. My admiration for her is endless.
Truly! I wanna be like Rachel when I grow up.
I feel so bad but also empowered by Rachel. My mom had breast cancer and died this year. So nice to see a person living through something so traumatizing like this and still have so much to give to the world. Thanks so much for reminding me of the good things.
I'm so sorry for your loss ❤️
My mom’s memorial is next month. She had breast cancer. She was 48. I’m so sorry for your loss. This shit sucks.
@@kkilinahe Thx. Sorry for yoy too :/
@@elicook3848 Thx. She was sick for many many years so it is somewhat a relief that she is in no more pain
I’m 24, and this video taught me more than health class ever did. I’m so, so glad that Rachel shared her story, and the episode of You Can Sit With Us where she talks about it was so eye opening. Thank you to the Tri Guys for having such educational and much needed content on your channel!
The way that Rachel advocated for herself throughout her diagnosis and treatment process, even when medical professionals dismissed her…her story is going to help so many women learn that they can do that for themselves.
I knew Rachel was a special person, dealing with the TryGuys shenanigans, but I had NO clue she’s a FREAKING WARRIOR who has come through one of the scariest experiences a woman can have. Thank you for doing this video!!
She’s a freaking warrior who went through this terrifying thing TWICE in an incredibly short period of time. I can’t imagine… she’s amazing
If you want to learn more about her journey, she did a special episode on the YCSWU podcast a while back ! She's so inspiring !! (Carefull tho, it's a sad one and you will cry)
When she said that was the FIRST time I hat breast cancer my heart DROPPED
She is totally a warrior and such an inspiring woman!
Whenever I hear about Rachel's journey I always feel so lucky. As a male that was diagnosed with Testicular cancer just before my 29th birthday (during the first fall of Covid) I realize just how surreal it is to go through what I went through and I cannot imagine how much worse things could have been if I had been put in similar situations as she was. Everyone, get screened regularly for everything you can. Cancer can happen to anyone.
I can’t believe those doctors talked Rachel out of a mastectomy during that first round of chemo and then tried to talk her out of an MRI that ended up saving her life… if they had just listened to her the first time, there’s a good chance that she wouldn’t have had that secondary tumor at all. So frustrating hearing about doctors not listening to their patient’s wishes 😠
Look, we dont know how advanced the tumor was so im just going to talk from what i know from the experience of my aunt. Masectomy is incredibly painfull and super hard to learn to live with and its of a higher risk than just removing the tumor so i understand at certain point why at first it was maybe better for her not to do it. They should have done whatever she wanted tho, its her choice and they are just recomending whats supposed to be best.
And that's on seeking medical assistance and/or treatment as a woman.
I completely understand why they were against it the first time. I think in the 'You Can Sit With Us' episode where she talks more in depth about her cancer journey, she talks about understanding where they were coming from too. However, ignoring her desire for an MRI was ridiculous.
That’s frustrating-I’d be pretty upset-that’s someone’s life in their hands. Meanwhile my mom had carcinoma in situ in one of her breasts (not malignant yet, but close) and they had her undergo a single mastectomy (thankfully she didn’t need chemo). Sometimes it is effective in shrinking the tumor, but there’s a chance it can come back if any cancer cells are still left behind. In other cancer cases sometimes it’s more effective to remove the tumor first and then proceed with chemo. (I’m not a doctor, I work in medical coding and deal with oncology cases all the time).
My mom has breast cancer, but the doctor also talked her out of mastectomy because that’s a bigger surgery, therefore there’s a higher risk of bleeding out and infection
Rachel Cole is the most badass woman I have never met. Listening to her on You Can Sit With Us and again here, I am amazed. Vulnerability, honesty, and grace always. Thank you, Rachel.
agreed
Ariel must be protected at all costs
Yes❤
Seeing Rachel cry made me cry🥺 I can’t even begin to imagine how this must feel for her. Rachel, thank you for being brave enough to prioritize your health despite your past trauma. You are an inspiration & a warrior!!
My heart went out to her. She is so strong ❤️
If a doctor/nurse denies your request for testing (such as Rachel’s doctor telling her she didn’t need an mri) ASK THEM TO DOCUMENT THAT IN YOUR CHART. Watch them write it down/type it.!! You are your own advocate for YOUR health.!
Also I wish Rachel didn’t say “something the guys can’t do” MEN CAN GET MAMMOGRAMS, not as common but they are able to, breast cancer CAN occur in men. I don’t want that being miscommunicated…
Have a male coworker that is a survivor of it!
Also trans guys
yup. people forget that cis men get breast cancer and that trans men exist and can get it too 🙃
Yep! my bestfriends step dad had it, had a masectomy and now has no nipple but he has a beautiful life :)
I found that line baffling especially when Zach has the BRCA (Breast Cancer) gene from his mother. If you watched the "When Will Try Guys Die" episode, you will know.
Poor Ariel. I hope she’s holding up well. She has the support of all the try guys fans. Ariel, you got this, you can push through and though it’s difficult, we are wired to overcome problems. We all love you!
my grandmother was diagnosed at 48 and had a complete mastectomy. she went into remission a month before i was born. this year she’ll be 23 years cancer free!
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That’s wonderful! I’m so happy for your grandma, and you, who got to spend more time with her. 💕
As soon as Rachel started talking and tearing up about how she has PTSD from her whole experience I immediately started bawling for her. I've always had such a high respect for her and it just continues to grow. She is the literal definition of a strong empowered badass woman
It’s so sad that if Rachel would have listened to the doctors, she would not be alive today. Women just can’t depend on the medical field to save them, because half the time they will be ignored. You have to literally beg doctors to give you life saving tests, and never take no for an answer. It shouldn’t be this way but it is.
I know this isn’t necessarily and excuse but a lot of this unfortunately comes back to the insurance industry. They honestly back doctors into a corner a lot of the time and unless the patients are willing to take a ridiculous amount of debt on then they struggle to properly treat people. Insurance wants you dead in my opinion 😢
You’re right, I wasn’t thinking about that aspect of it. It’s very sad all around
And this is the reason my mom I no more , because they told her it was nothing .
My mom just completed chemo for HER2+ breast cancer. She was diagnosed the same day the You Can Sit With Us podcast about Rachel’s cancer journey dropped. The podcast gave us so much hope. Thank you all for being vulnerable and sharing deeply personal things. I’m happy to say my mom is cancer free after 14 months of grueling chemotherapy. I pray she is part of the 95% that will survive past 5 years since it was caught early in a routine mammogram.
Sendinng strong healing vibes to your mama 💗
Cheers to you and your mum ❤️
All the best to you and your mom!
ALWAYS advocate for yourself when dealing with doctors. Rachel's story made my blood boil, she could have died, or gotten to a point where the new cancer was untreatable all because they couldn't hassle themselves to do an MRI.
I'm almost 20 so nowhere near mammogram time but this video ended up being really important to me because I've been avoiding going to the doctor to get a lump checked out and it's given me confidence to schedule an appointment. I'm pretty sure it's all fine but I know I need to go check it out just in case so this came at the perfect time
Did everything turn out ok?
Mammograms can be low yield on a young, dense breast anyway. Ultrasound is a great (and palatable) modality for you at this stage. Even if it's just fibrocystic changes, ultrasound on a yearly or two-yearly basis is excellent for monitoring. If they see anything suspect, they should send you for limited mammogram or biopsy to correlate anyway.
yes, anyone at any age can have cancer. I hope everything turns out okay.
Is everything alright? 💕💕
hoping everything is alright love 🩷🩷
this is the first mammogram video i’ve seen that actually shows the breast and the whole process. i appreciate it! very educational and nerve soothing!
Seriously - I find it crazy that this is the first time I've ever been able to visualise it! All women should see this, it's super reassuring.
My thoughts exactly. Fear of the unknown and we've never been able to see what the actual process is!
I thought the procedure would hurt like a lot, but this video made me change my mind.
Aww seeing Rachel crying made me cry.
She is too precious.
Right? I’m over here sobbing
Me too!
I can’t imagine how she was feeling in that moment. I wish I could hug her
My maternal grandmother had Breast Cancer and didn't want any of her daughters to know. The doctors wanted her to have a mastectomy but she refused. They removed lymph nodes, did radiation and she remained cancer free for 25+ years until it came back in her spine and unfortunately took her from us. When I finally found out she had Breast Cancer, I talked to my doctor and had my first mammogram when I was 37. Fortunately, the results have been good and I'm now in my 50s. Rachel's story really resonated with me on how doctors really need to listen to their patients.
I'm sorry for your loss ❣️😔
@@CRCR666 Thanks. I miss her but know she's in a place far better than here.
Rachel had to be so vulnerable to film this and tell her story. This is a whole other side to her. Amazing video!
Rachel’s story always gets me teary eyed. She’s such a strong woman. Truly truly an inspiration, I wish I could hug and thank her personally for being such a huge light in this world
thank you for looking out for us females. 💙💚💗💜
woah what is this, did you pay money with this comment?
@@shroomyzoom I sent money, as a thank you.
Seeing Rachel cry at the thought of getting cancer again made me tear up. She’s been through so much.
Her statement of "there's always such a tell" is so true. The person who did the ultrasound of my thyroid went from talking quickly to complete silence when she passed over the tumor. Having that moment of, "Oh. I'm looking at my cancer," in the ultrasound is a moment of indescribable fear.
I hope you’re doing ok!
Aw thank you! I am 7 years in remission ☺️
I had a similar experience when I went through a missed miscarriage. The appointment was all chatty and fun and then... very particular questions and silence.
Rachel's story is SO empowering. We need to advocate for ourselves and for our health.
I lost it when Rachel started crying on the table. I was wishing I was there to hold her hand. I love the channel bringing awareness! Love you Try Moms! ❤️
The doctor was so respectful and caring to Rachel. I got emotional hearing her reassure her at every step. ❤
Every time Racheal tells her story, it’s like I’m hearing it for the first time. It’s so sad yet eye opening and beautiful. Rachael is a warrior. She’s so strong.
I'm so glad the Try Mom's did this. I related to Rachel's diagnosis story a lot. When I was 19, I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. I was lucky because my mom is a high-risk ob nurse practitioner who came with me. They called her in when the ultrasound tech saw I had a very concerning ovarian mass. It was reassuring to have my mom explain what they found. It must've been horrible to experience that moment without someone in your corner, while having to fiercely advocate for yourself alone.
Rachel is such a strong person! She did miss America, survived cancer, babysitted Try Guys and gave birth to two beautiful girls! Keep fighting girl!
The crazy part is there is no radiation with MRIs. Some drs do the bare minimum and it’s so sad. I’m happy Rachel stuck with her gut
Such an incredible lesson learned by this video but especially by Rachel: Never stop advocating for yourself and your health. As a 27 year old woman, I feel so seen in this struggle to be heard by doctors/health professionals when you have concerns..... Or the worries of being belittled and/or made to feel small/insignificant. I'm unbelievably grateful for these amazingly brave women first and foremost for sharing their stories. But I am also grateful for the Try Guys for sharing these stories on their channel. Women's health is a subject that must be discussed and normalized more. All my love and squeezes to Rachel and these women for being a part of this discussion
The fact that we don’t learn about really vital things like this in school is horrifying. It would literally save lives.
and now some people are advocating for adolescents to learn even less about their bodies and health. Vote!
This is so true and it is really unfortunate. I grew up in Mexico and as soon I turned 12 we were taught about periods, mammograms, papanicolaus, pregnancies and many more topics; however, in here I took a health class during high school and they never taught or mentioned us about these topics. We need to advocate for more education around these areas since it is essential that women know what they need to look up as they grew up. Normally in Mexico they reccomend you to get mammograms and papanicolaous after turning 24 but in here my doctor told me that it was not necessary which made me realize that I needed to change doctors.
@@monicagarcia8422 That's excellent, really good that it's not just the menstrual cycle, but mammograms and the other things you mentioned.
When Rachel started crying right before they did the ultrasound i felt that in my soul. I have multiple chronic illnesses that put me at a high risk for cancer. So along with my daily medication of 7 pills a day, blood draws every three months, and infusions of medications once a month, I also have to get MRI's of my abdomen every six moths. Those MRI's scare me more than anything. So far they have been clean, but the fear they they won't be can paralyze me.
And even just other medical procedures. Just today I was getting my monthly infusion and I suddenly had a bad reaction to it! I almost went into anaphylaxis and it's terrifying! No one prepares you for being sick like this when you are a teenager/in your early 20's.
It's so scary and I'm so proud of Rachel for getting to remission. Praying that I get there soon and so does anyone else who is sick right now
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Love that, The Try Guys, are using their platform to bring awareness to all health care. From womens health, mental health, and the Gay community as well. Truly inspiring
the fact that she was told she shouldn’t get an mri because it was “too expensive” is absolutely disgusting. this country is a joke. always listen to your instincts.
Easier said than done when you do not have the money or support you need to pay for it, though. Which is why I have to agree with you there. The US is a joke. A sad one.
This one hit home. I have medical trauma from not being able to say goodbye to my aunt before she passed (thanks covid.) and around the same time I also lost a very close family friend to breast cancer. She was diagnosed at 25, went through the whole shebang, was diagnosed later at 34 with lung cancer, got cleared of that, and then at 42 she got news her breast cancer had come back. She fought hard, but ultimately after all the chemo and radiation she had already gone through had made her body so weak she lost her battle in 2019. She was a good soul and a wonderful lady. She was a great mother and the kind of person you are only blessed to meet in one lifetime. I hope she continues to rest easy knowing everyone she loved still thinks about her every day.
What you are describing is actually grief, medical trauma stems from experiencing a medical issue yourself and how being dehumanized by the "healthcare" system traumatizes people. Your feelings of grief are valid though.
Rachel’s story is wild to me! When I was 16, I found a lump, and my parents took me to a specialist. We went in for the lumpectomy 2 weeks later to get it all out at the same time rather than just a biopsy. Everything was benign, but that day taught me that you are the best and sometimes only advocate for yourself. If you don’t feel comfortable with your diagnosis or the way your doctor is approaching something, get a second opinion. It angers me even more that some women don’t even have access to these resources.
When I was diagnosed with breast cancer I didn’t like my oncologist and was told by many different people I should get a second opinion or see another doctor, but I couldn’t as he was the only oncologist in that area so he was the only doctor covered by my insurance. The US medical system is so screwed up and it makes it really difficult to advocate for yourself to get the best care.
@@carmenattallah6244 I completely agree with you, and there are so many who will just leave things untreated because they can’t afford to see a primary care doctor let alone a specialist! I’m so sorry you had to go through that❤️
Where I live, we are not allowed to chose our doctor.
@@cookies6455 that’s awful! I think many of us forget a privilege health care is and that is just ridiculous because it shouldn’t be that way.
Rachel is such an incredibly strong human. My heart broke when she was back experiencing the tests that she associated with what I presume were the hardest days of her life. Wow.
As someone with a history of breast cancer in my family, I'm really happy you were all able to do this on camera.
It's uncomfortable and everything, and I thought at 27 I shouldn't bother with screening, but these stories are making me rethink it. Thank you!
Also… Rachel, medical PTSD is real! You’re not alone and it’s totally normal.
Yes very valid! Chronically Ill and I pretty much cry before/after/during doctor/provider visits depending upon how comfortable I feel with the provider, talking about illness can be v triggering and isolating!
Rachel, I’m a young cancer survivor as well at 21, I lost my period through my 9 month treatment. They told me to freeze eggs and I chose not to because I was stage 4. All I want to do is be a mom and my biggest fear is I can’t because of chemo. The fact that you’re a mom makes me just sob. I’m sobbing. It gives me so much hope. Thank you so so much for telling your story. It helped so much. Thank you so much. Just thank you.
A few months ago I had to go to the hospital for something (don't wanna get too into detail) and they told me that what was causing problems for me could be and probably is a result of hidden cancer and recommended I see an OBGYN after my ER stay. I don't have insurance and lost my job recently and I still haven't seen anyone since that night at the ER. I've been so scared every day. I'm only 24 and don't know what to do. I've not even told my best friends the whole truth because I don't want to scare anyone else. I've even been too scared to watch this video because I knew cancer was going to be mentioned... But Rachel's story and everyone else have given me courage and hope. Thank you so much for sharing your stories and experiences and bringing awareness to women's health. Thank you so much, truly. 💖
Everytime I hear Rachel tell her story I'm so angry. She literally had to BEG for the medical screenings she clearly needed, and was dismissed. Doctors need to listen to us!
And the fact that when they found something they made her feel guilty. Saying this is why we don’t order more test because now we found something. That pissed me off!
@@gisfri89 right?! Just the annoyed way they were like "Well this is why we don't wanna tell people they have life threatening diseases, because they get upset about it!" Yeah, no shit! They could possibly die, why wouldn't they be freaking out a bit?
I’m a firm advocate for normalising women’s health tests when they’re younger. Breast and cervical cancer screenings are still too often treated as an issue for older women and as a result, we’ve lost so many amazing young women in their prime to cancers treated like an older woman’s issue. It can strike at any time.
I’m often reminded of a story from a woman in the UK, Jade Goody. She was a reality TV star in the early 2000s. She died of cervical cancer at 27. In England, they didn’t even screen for that until the mid-to-late 20s, because as far as they were concerned, young women didn’t get it. By the time it was found, it was already advanced and within months, she was given a terminal diagnosis. She died on March 22nd 2009, 6 months after diagnosis and the UK saw massive changes in younger women looking for early cancer screenings. I don’t know how many women may have been saved by these changes, but it could’ve been upwards of thousands. But a young woman, a mother of two, had to lose her life to prompt that change.
Take your health seriously, ladies, and keep checking up on your body. Be open to these tests, even if doctors say it’s not necessary. You never know when it actually really is.
Cervical cancer is one of the deadliest cancers for women around the world. It's so bizarre that they don't want to screen for it "too early" and yet they also want to prevent access to the vaccine for men and "old" women - under the guise that "they've probably had sex by 18 so it's useless"
This isn't the '40s, people aren't getting married at 18-22 at high rates anymore, no one has the right to assume your sexual history. And beyond that - the vaccine is still shown to be very effective to people well in their 40s! Don't assume it's over for you just because you've had sex.
In the US the HPV vaccine is covered in the US under the ACA up to age 45. Have a conversation with your doctor, advocate for yourself, bring a person if you need to, write your questions or desires down if you want to, go somewhere else if you have to, but please please please put you and your loved ones first - for everything health related, mind you, not just cervical or breast cancers. Anything and everything
Oh my god Rachel's story is so moving and emotional. Every med student needs to watch this and read or listen to others' stories like it. I can only imagine how scary and stressful and frustrating that must have been. I have family and friends who went through very similar situations mainly with cancer. These stories are way too common in this world and something needs to change
Thank you for this. So many families ("traditional"/"conservative") don't have these discussions with their daughters and sons; my family included... A detailed conversation about a doctor's visit is off-limits much like important sex talk... This is eye-opening and so informative. One can do all the research one wants, but to see women of your own age have similar questions/concerns makes one feel vindicated and not-so-dumb-after-all. We aren't "just paranoid," we HAVE TO advocate for our own health; nobody else will.
That is very interesting. At least for my circle of people, this isn't a taboo topic amongst us, even though we are all considered traditional and conservative. It depends on the sub-culture probably.