What Does a Violinist See? (EYETRACKING Our Playing)
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The eyetracker looks like an annoying bubble under a microscope.
Biology Gang🤣🤣🤣
@@saizanchangal9189 Biology Gang reprezent
@Srushti Srikanth yes like under the scanner or LPO hahaha
Lmao🤣😂
They keep jooking around, I almost forgot how really talented they are. lol
The boss of eye tracking is the one who doesn't need to pause to see editor-san's comments every video.
Hahaaaa
A.H but I always go back to seem them because they’re usually gold
Such an underated comment, this is gold
me ahahaha
Omg FACTS
Subtitler-san's subtitles are more accurate than the eyetracking XD
Yesss I always turn them on just in case I miss something lmao
@@suddenIypineappIes Same
Yep, this is why i always put captions lol
hahahahahahaa
Sad that the community contributions function will be deleted next month
Other youtubers: Let's watch videos of lightly clothed individuals using eye tracker.
Twosetviolin: Let's sight-read using eye tracker.
@@MichelleLugoMusic The only one I've seen is Pewdiepie, hope that helps
*Virginity is cool - remain pure*
Omg I was just thinking about that 😅
@@MichelleLugoMusic Bucks is one; he does it on omegle
if you search on RUclips "eye tracker" you'll find a ton with clickbait thumbnails and them looking g through Instagram (beacsue that's where all the baddies with butt pics are lol) and yeah, their their whole video is them being surprised when they get caught looking at butt pics on ig
As a conductor, you don’t expect musicians to look at you constantly. That’s why you shouldn’t “overconduct”, meaning being full on the whole time. This way when something important comes that you NEED the musicians to be looking at, they will know it’s important and pay attention.
They also made a good point with the periphereal vision and concertmaster.
Ling Ling is so good he doesn’t even have to use his eyes to sight read
No Ling Ling alwyas knows the piece already so he never has to sight read
He can play with his eyes closed.
And with the instrument in the case
(Im on my dads acc) He just feels the paper, and then can play the piece without touching the violin.
Ling Ling can represent the music sheet inside his brain just like literally looking at it while paying attention to the conductor
It looks like a blob of water that can't seem to absorb into the page.
Yeah like a blob of water on a tissue covered in neverwet
"Looking at you sightread is stressful"
Not for me, I can't read music at all
*you are EVERYWHERE* 😂
If u see him u are a cultured man
- said by someone that replied to his comment
Are you secretly an FBI agent?
Lol same
Can relate
What does a violinist see? Disappointed faces when they screw up a performance
I just don't look at the audience when I perform they're terrifying
@@suddenIypineappIes when you look at the audience only find find some random dude staring at you.
*SHAKY BOW*
*SHAKY BOW*
*S H A K Y B O W*
@@micah_wong lmao yesss and then u mess up and blame it on the accompanist
Unless you play jazz
The concertmaster part remind me of one day that my eyesight got really bad and I didn't had my new glasses yet. So, I went to rehearsals with orchestra and I thought "well, I'm in the last seat, all alone, If I cant see, at least I can fake a little". Suddenly, the conductor told me "hey, since the concertmaster is not here and you're all alone, why don't you sit in the concertmaster's place for today?" At that moment I knew I f**ed up.
Spoiler: The director ended roasting me bc I couldn't see anything and he wanted me to play aaaaaall by memory. The thing is, sir, I can't learn something by memory if I can't see it first, thank you.
Vanesa Fernandez big oof 😂
Big F my friend
F
E sharp
Orchestra True Confessions...!
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12:36 Brett:- "Actually, there's times when concertmasters screw up, every one screwed up together."
Eddy: "Yeah, yeah, yeah "
Also Brett and Eddy:- *Intense flashbacks as concertmasters*
Akash Venkatasubramanian Maybe they are referring to themselves? lol
It's actually making the advantage of eddy having perfect pitch while sight-reading noticeable. when eddy was sight-reading, he was looking a bar ahead, at least in the easy ones, and with the time of a bar, he can actually build up and idea of what the next bar sounds like, then play by following the music inside his head. which is a great advantage. when brett was sight-reading, he was actually playing notes straight from what he sees, and its more like a reflex action where he trained himself to play the note when he sees it right away, which is how i personally sight-read music cuz i dont have perfect pitch.
This is an interesting analysis and makes a lot of sense!
Someone mentioned in this comment section that they are a psychologist and they want to experiment with this software. I think having musicians with perfect pitch and musicians without it, might result in some interesting variables.
@@heyytheree Tell your brother that he doesn't practice enough Lol. There is no way we know for sure how perfect pitch affect sight-reading abilities, that's why it is a good proposal for research topic. I read your comment before that you are twelve, and assuming your brother is not a lot older or younger than you, and definitely not as old as Brett and Eddy, lots of things still can change throughout the years which will affect you (and your brother's) abilities. Experience factor is one thing for sure.
I think not necessarily only those with perfect pitch can read a bar ahead. Those with good relative pitch may be able to do it once they started the piece. But for me, same as you and Brett, I cannot read one bar ahead🤦🏻♂️ my teacher tried to train me this (read 1 bar ahead ) but to no avail.
I have to imagine the main advantage to sight reading is mostly to the person who has done more sight reading. Moreso than perfect pitch or playing skill, it has to do with the raw speed of processing the notation.
Also, once extremely familiar with the scales in a key, it seems (from watching) that one can sort of fill in the middle notes based in familiarity with the fingerings? Maybe saving time to looking ahead for accidentals and volume and other details?
It was fascinating to watch this. But also just impressive at how well they do pull it all together.
Is it just me or is Brett getting cuter with every video 🥺
Yes
Finally I found this comment
Love you🥺
They both are; every time I watch their videos I always think “damn I’ll really fall in love with anyone huh”
He is.
His laughter and moves are the personification of cuteness. 😘 His playing and voice are the personification of hotness. 💘
DO MORE OF THESE
Edit: I saw a comment about how they wanted to see a pianist’s eyes switching between clefs, and I think that’s a great idea. Y’all should bring on guests that play different instruments, like the opera singer y’all had that one time who showed awesome opera performances, the pianist from the Ling Ling challenge, and DEFINITELY have Hilary Hahn on. It’d be interesting to compare her sight reading, playing orchestral, and playing a memorized piece
guests right now?
Oh no i think you gave the pianist youtubers a content idea if they decided to do it on their own
Lee Cha Are there pianist youtubers that will likely to make this kind of content though (the educational one like Twoset)? Tiffany Poon is probably the most likely one, but she doesn’t really watch Twoset. Other pianist youtubers are usually memers, cover artists, skit makers, or just faceless beings. I will be glad to know if there is Twoset equivalent for the piano.
Can Brett and Eddy do it? I know they've shown some basic level of piano playing. (If guests aren't possible)
icesilverwind I would say they are more than just basic level piano playing, but not sure if it will be a fair comparison to this video cause they probably can’t play to concerto level. Bringing pianist guest such as Sophie will be a better experiment.
"William Ten Have."
"William Ten have practiced."
"How many hours has he practiced?"
*"william ten."*
That was beautiful
This does not make sense:
What does my eyes see... Just two dudes flexing their sight-reading skills.
Today’s my birthday and got my first violin. Finally I join violin gang and you two just uploaded a video. It’s awesome. It’s just an awesome birthday.
Ximena Gómez happy birthday!!!
Wow! Happy Birthday !! I hope you have many great years having fun with your violin and cherishing this memory.
Trisha Faith Reyes Thanks. 😊
Habitabat enim Dei vivi Thanks for you wishes. 💙
Happy birthday! Happy violin playing!
Now: go practice!!!!!!
🎻🍰🎻🎂🎻🍰🎻
9:53 What's really interesting is that when Brett started getting lost in the timing, his instict was to look for the conductor to get back in sync.
Ling Ling can sightread with his eyes closed.
Ling Ling already memorized all pieces when he was born
Lmao
Classical Senpai when he was conceived xD
@@classicalsenpai4249 Ling Ling memorised ALL the pieces a gizillian years before the big bang even happened
LING LING GRANGER *_lah!_*
I would be interested to see where you look when playing a memorized piece as well
edit: I’m a violinist and violist, I know generally what happens and that you don’t look at anything in particular most of the time but I think it would still be quite interesting.
As a pianist, I look at the center of the keyboard, where I can see both hands, or focus totally at the left hand, occasionally looking at nowhere or closing the eyes. Only pay attention to the right hand when it's a tough passage. And as @Kaitlin Zylstra metionend, you sometimes don't realize you're the one playing (which causes some occasional accidents).
I've always wondered where people listening to music where their eyes look while staring into space...whether they move with the rhythm...even if just subtly
As a flutist I look straight through everyone/everything, I close my eyes, or I just stare into space
I mostly pay attention to the conductor while looking at the music for check points and notes i have for myself. You kinda get engrossed in the music while still being conscious of what you're doing and what's around you. You're conscious of the rhythm, dynamics and the other performers; you have to be slightly mentally ahead, but also expressing the emotions in the moment. It would be interesting to see what happens during an actual performance with different people.
@@Myself-anonymously I usually just stare at nowhere or close my eyes. Though rarely move my eyes along the music.
0:03 well done brett. a fantastic rendition of one of the greatest symphonies of all time.
I love how happy they are at 6:17
Loved this so much! As a harpist, there are so many times that I’m the only one. I am the section. I usually take my cue from where we are in the piece. I spent a lot of time listening, because who wants to count all those measures of rest? On the rare occasions that more than one harp is needed, it’s nice to have someone else back there with me. Loved seeing where your eyes tracked during sight reading and watching the conductor. I’d watch more of these.
Y'all ever grow soft when you think about how Brett and Eddy might probably be somewhere here possibly with their personal alt. accounts watching along with us and smiling at our comments, being so humbled and proud of how far they've come but then again they're probably too busy practicing too.
reading this made my day better : ' ) they deserve all the good things uwu
Yeah, that's true. Haven't even thought about they eventually doing that. Have thought about it when it comes to reddit that in earlier lingling40 h episodes that the account they've been using while reviewing memes hasn't joined the the subreddit
No. it's not some kind of mystical experience. It's entertaining, but it's how they earn their living. There are no "personal alt. accounts."
Ms Pea I was looking for your reply...its true I don’t get why some people dream stuff up in there fantasy world. Almost kinda creepy?
@@lillycorrell4838 it's weird as fuck. The only thing I can imagine is them reading these comments and being super uncomfortable.
What do our eyes do during sightreading?
Literally: reading
No, you read with sight while sight reading. Smh.
No, we are reading our sight.
My takeaway in this video: Concertmasters are really important people.
People commenting "oh I'm sooooo early" without even watch the video first...
LAMENTABLE!
Ik ik always 💀
ikr
That's so me if you see my comment lol
@@heyytheree ikr lol
I deleted my comment xD
Edit: okay i put it back ;_;
Dude. I'm pretty sure if i do that eye-tracking thing when playing piano, it will result as i look at my hands and the piano without looking at sheet music AT ALL
I think my eyes would be like →→↑↓→↖↘↗↙↕↔←
eddy practicing sibelius: eye tracking the subscriber count
Just realized they've been finally consistent in getting their video to focus. Hey Brett and Eddy, I had almost forgotten what you guys look like.
10:10 This is why it's important to put your music stand at the proper height. That way the conductor's baton is always visible just about the top of your stand/music.
13 mins 45 seconds of Brett playing around and being fascinated with the eye tracker 🥺
LING LING GRANGER precise
Steverson Productions thanks I guess? 😂
3:15 I love how Brett is just pure chaos
I just witnessed two scientists who solved all my doubts.
oh wow 😲 this one's really interesting especially from someone who's not a musician like me. It's amazing to know how you function or how a musician functions when playing in the orchestra. In my head, you just play your instrument with no clear idea of how you really do it. Like how does one together with several different musical instruments work or sound harmoniously in sync when playing a piece. Now I have a little grasp of idea of how it really is. Like how you needed a concertmaster, how you followed or maybe translated what the conductor is doing, what the music sheet for, and how important it is to clearly hear the sound or of the instruments so you can all sound as one. It's so wonderful 😲 I'm in awe. Thank you for this video. I'm happy I learned something today. 🥰❤️❤️
On the 5th, I noticed Eddy looking at the concertmaster, too. One thing I saw from the start, Brett looks at the notes, right on them. But Eddy looks above the staff. Made me think he wasn't seeing the notes, but 'hearing' them (perfect pitch), as a group, then repeating the sound.
Ooo that might be the case!
I have perfect pitch too, and I realized what you've said is what I do unconsciously while reading sheet music (except unlike Eddy I suck at sight-reading so I can only "hear" notes correctly, but not playing them perfectly…and I play the piano *sigh*)
I dont even know what to comment at this point. All I know is that I enjoy watching these two.
6:21 Amazing sightreading skills
Yeah, this was self esteem destroying realizing how good they are, but it was also good to watch.
Am i only one who is waiting to see whether violin chan is saved or has been destroy by davie
Don’t watch this episode. Go practice and you will see it yourself
I do it and I only see failure
Just kidding I'm the fucking boss dud
I sneaked out of my room to turn on the WiFi just to check if a new video is out-
I might get scolded tomorrow but WORTH IT!.
Just say it was for getting motivation to practice ;)
@@notafailure2138 ah yes- hope that works- asian mom should understand-
Or not-
"LingLing practice at the right time!" *gets smackt with the chancla*
The part of them talking about the concert master's significance made me WOW at the same time Eddy does.
The pearl of twoset constantly being entertaining and educational and inspiring!!!
6:15 I'd believe it if someone told me that Eddy gets more excited watching Brett sight-read than he does watching a sports event.
I often sing along with professional recordings when I’m learning a choral piece. I’m glad to see you guys occasionally playing along with a professional recording. It validates that method of practicing! I’m also one of those singers who learn the music more effectively when I hear the entire context of the music. I could learn my part on its own, but it will never be as accurate as hearing how my part fits in with the rest of the music.
Also, computer speakers not being loud enough is the primary reason I prefer to practice in a car. The car’s stereo can get loud enough for me to hear the music while I sing. Perhaps (if you are able) you ought to try practicing in the car, taking advantage of the high volumes that are possible.
How cool is the human brain?!?!? Soooo many complex processes happening at the same time here. Bowing, fingering, timing, intonation, dynamics, expression, sight reading (and reading ahead), watching conductor, listening to the musicians around you... like seriously how are we capable of all that at once? 😱
POV: you’re scrolling through the comments whilst they play
Of course
Yup
You mean there’s another way to watch Twoset?
Nope I've just finished the video haha
I try to understand where tf they're looking bc I wanna know how gods sight read
gave me mild anxiety cuz if I sight read like them I wouldn't have time to see anything
The “interesting” meme is still living. I love it.
Everybody: uses the eye tracking for thirsty stuff
Twoset: haha monetization go brrr
As an really amateur pianist who couldn't sightread if my life depended on it, it's sooo InTeREsTinG to know what your eyes actually do while you sightread!
That's one of the most different vids of you guys, I loved it!
Me: Godd, I have no idea what to watch while eating noodles. I don't wanna waste these on something trash
Twoset: No problem, here you go
Me: **Happiness noises**
Basically me while studying...
Ok ?
I'm glad I'm not the only who does this while eating xD
@@chocobofan5750 Same lol
I love Brett’s intro with symphony number five 😂
It’s a great effect
3:24 Lmao bb boy, he looks like Brett Lofi version of Thomas the Engine.
Eddy and brett: *eyes between the sheet and conductor*
Me: *eyes between twoset, the sheet and the conductor*
Bretts face at 6:10 and eddy hyping him was was the most funniest thing I’ve seen today 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Twoset never run out of video ideas. I’m always amazed how unique they are...Quality content all the time. Love iiit!❤️
So many takeaways from this one:
1. Props to editor-san for showing how musicians multitask through split screen display, it helps a lot.
2. If it becomes more accurate, eye-tracking device can sort of help with beginners and intermediate musicians training/practicing instruments as well - like for sight reading or how much to pay attention to the notes vs conductor. Just a random idea.
3. BUT the device tends to be less accurate when tracking people wearing glasses, since it refracts light. I had the same issue once playing with it.
4. Imagine the incredible focus X-men's Cyclops must have, having to look at one single target for a really prolonged period of time.
I played with our wind orchestra in the park the other day and the conductor stood on a latter so everyone could see. I have never realized how much I rely on seeing him in peripheral vision until he was standing too high for me to see both him and my music at the same time.
It's amazing how many hours someone has to put on violin.
And it's also amazing how many hours I have left on watching their videos.
They make me happy.
Brett’s sightreading skill is aMaZing!!!
Is it only me, or do you guys find it weird, that they're uploading really much this summer? :D I love it
i aint complaining all these contents. i need this during quarentine. :v
I think they're stuck at home so they can just churn out loads of content. The more the better imo
Yeah ! I hope they keep taking care to rest too tho and don't push themselves too much.
@@heyytheree Why everyone says they're in Singapore?
@@sherryhst their insta
Now we know who used to sightread more in the orchetra years 😏
As a psychologist I would love to make a scientific research about it.
Ooh. If you do start your experiment, can I join in as a subject? I play the piano and I’d love to see how eye tracking software works.
Go ahead dude
@@gabrielamayorga-kintanar6729 The biggest problem is that I live in Poland and can't travel now, haha. But maybe in your country someone is doing this kind of experiment. Try to find some psychologists who are studying eyesight and cognitive processes.
They always share videos with subtitles. I love them😊😊😊
Btw I'm from Turkey.🇹🇷
taking sight reading on a whole new level, aye? (or in this case, eye?)
So much excitement,
RIP Brett violin 6:55 😂
Great video fellas! Really interesting explanation of who we look at as orchestral violinists and why! All these years, I've been naturally following concertmaster (along with conductor) - sort of like trying to verify what I see the conductor doing with what 1st violin is conveying. But knowing WHY I do that is really helpful and insightful. Please more videos like this! :)
Whoever did the subtitles, thank you so much, and I'm impressed you did them so early! This video has been out for less than ten minutes!
Y'all complain about ads or clapping or any disturbance between movements. I got an ad at 6:43
Lmao I feel like at this point the only clothes they have in their closet are their merch.
I did notice that Eddy was looking at the concertmaster more than the conductor. I kept wondering, "Why is he looking at the concertmaster?" And then he explained it afterwards. So I understand it more now. I'm not a string player. So I wouldn't know.
This is actually the most interesting eye tracking video I've seen, gives you an insight as to what subconsciously goes on in a musician's brain
I'm glad I'm not the only one who looks at the concertmaster instead of the conductor, becuase that way if she screws up, it's not my fault lol. Also, when I was in my various youth orchestras i had been known to be looking into the audience on rest bars in case there were any cute ladies out there which is easy if you are on the outer desk of the firsts...
a couple of times i missed my cue and ended up looking like a prize moron as my bowing ended up all over the place for about 3 bars (oops_
But please do more of these, this was a great vid
#violingang
This was really interesting for me. I'm just a noob adult beginner and know nothing of orchestras so was pretty fun to get some insight. Also it was interesting to see how even you seemed to understand new things from this experiment. We never stop learning eh.
I feel like the weird wiggling in the beginning each time is probably them checking the key signature 🤔 god knows I do that all the time
Just a friendly reminder, that after this video, GO PRACTICE
No
PRCTICE
@@fransiskanindra6598 No
@@fransiskanindra6598 No
One of them should play a viola on the streets and first person to tell them that viola is bad gets something
I’m not a music graduate, I have a masters in business, but I love watching your channel. Business is very theoretical. Every business decision branches off to a million tangents and the end result mostly falls short or sometimes goes beyond your expectations. In music you get what you put in. Its beautiful and sarusfying in that regard. More power to you guys!
Bretts sightreading: stressful
Bretts spelling: stressful
Bretts lofi: stressful
"it's quite stressful if you can't hear"
Me everytime I try to play with an accompaniment on cellphone and i'm way louder than the sound
iNtEreStiNG~ I never thought of using the eye tracker this way. But as somehow who knows nothing about music theory, I now know where they are at with the scores now ☺ Hope they reach 50K soon to see more of such quality content👍🏻
Liked it before finishing watching. No regret 'cause gosh guys you are SUCH TALENTED PROS
Bruh it doesn’t look like their eyes are dancing around as much as that blob is😂
"no wonder sight reading is stressful you're only one quaver ahead" I snorted so hard something came out of my nose
8:50 (the piece itself): I think that what we do most. I was sightreading alongside and didn't exactly look at the conductor but I was still "seeing" him. Eddy is not looking at the line he's playing: he's looking above. I think it's because we "decide" to put our eyes in the middle so we've got both the sheet music and the conductor in our vision and as we're not looking straight at our line we're less distracted by it and more open to look at what's around (ie the conductor).
But that's my personal interpretation!
7:53 *Stressed smile intensify*
Looking forward to this, was always kind of curious.
Oh my god, Brett's new glasses look so good on him! Like honestly he looks like a movie star! 💚
can we take a sec to appreciate how Brett just sightread a truly epiicc piece and at least to my non-musician ears it sounded difficult but also to my non-musician ears it sounded really well played.
clap clap y'all're cool
As the parent of a child with a Tobii-Dynavox eye scan communication system and a violin player myself, I’m fascinated!!
If you screen track me watching twoset, you'll find me focusing on brett throughout the whole video ahaha (eddy ily too)
Bret at 6:27: some difficult part, smiles at it looking like it's the biggest delight
Eddy: **looking one bar ahead** disclaimer, I’m going to play really out of tune
Me: mmm okay kinda makes sense
Eddy: **plays pretty much perfectly** (imo)
Me: 🙉
Eddy: working hard to always read one bar ahead while sightreading
Brett: trolling the eye tracking software
This was very incredible . I have been struggling to read music for a very long time im no musician but a dancer I can here and feel the music but can't read. . Let's just say that I am music note reading dyslexic.But overall I appreciated so much for you two for spreading the information and awareness for classics music . May the force of ling ling be with you. (Sorry for being cheesy)
It's interesting that you say this. Not sure when it started but I had come to associate the notes with my finger placement instead. I didn't even notice until I took music theory and realized I couldn't read at all 😂 took a while to properly read sheet music again. Maybe you're more a physical learner? Good time to pick up an instrument~ The music store is waiting for you!
@@BlissfulBluebell I do the same thing! My teacher will ask me what a note is and I’ll be like “uh, 2nd finger on G string?” It’s weird how you can see a note, know what it sounds like and recreate it perfectly, but not know what its name is
The best was that Brett and Eddy's bowing matched the orchestra when following the conductor!
What does a clarinetist see? Editor-San's subtitles.
Editor-San doesn't write the subtitles, Subtitler-San does. They said that in a video.
Anyone can make the subtitles, not just editor-san. Even fans can do it if twoset approves
Bretts sight-reading, while still better than mine, gives me anxiety.
I need to practice OMG
If you practice 41 hours a day, you won't need your eyes anymore to see things.
Blind people “ yes that’s tree“
As an eye doctor/musician I find this very interesting.