Id poop my pants if I had to play Karpov. This guy held the world champion title for 10 years and is considered one of the greatest chess players ever.
Well, you know, 3 yr olds cry as if the world would end when they see snow. Or don't see snow. Or they don't have the right color of the candy. Or with no reason whatsoever 🤷♀️
Talent has always been there in india it's always about the opportunity. As india's economy grows it has substance for other things and supporting sports is one of them. You will notice that not many companies sponser chess but huge indian corporation are keen in spending a lot of money on the promotion of chess. After Vishy, a whole generation full of talents went on steroids like a big bang and the country just exploded with potential. In my heart, Vishy maight not be the best chess player but he's the greatest. I mean, which WCC could inspire an entire country of 1.4B and nurture a wave of talents? From zero GM's to now becoming a powerhouse. What an inspiration.
Viswanathan Anand is not a chess player. He was a revolutionary. This guy single handedly made a chess revolution in india. For 1.4 billion people, he is the God of chess
It is strange that no one ever mentions Vincent Keymer. He turned 19 just a few days ago, #14 in the world, trailing Pragg just by 2.4 Elo points and ranking before Vidit, Erigaisi, Abdussatorov and Gukesh. Plus he has beaten Carlsen lately and just failed to beat and eliminate him in the second game because he did not convert a winning position. Guess he has to be in the top five before people can't ignore him anymore.
@@samarthbagwe1736 Ridiculous. Elo is EVERYTHING to the players. Right now the top 15 are struggling crazily for Elo because it will decide the last spot in the candidates.
It was not a competition .It was like playing with a old man who happened to be the FINAL BOSS of CHESS. It was a wholesome show where 3 year old boy showed off his capabilities.
I don't think so, I've seen him a couple of times on the Russian chess Channel "Chess Fight Night". At the very least he's playing Blitz still.@@ndnd7614
Ossipov was never chess prodigy, just a cute child who learned chess moves very early and was hyped in Russian TV. Mishra is doing OK, won US junior Championsips and had 4th place in adult Championships after Caruana, So and Dominguez. Pragg is a real deal.He is already no.13 in the world and top 10 is not so far.
I knew I recognised that game you showed at 0:10... That's Petrosian's blunder in the match against Bronstein, 1956. I double-checked with Donner's 'The King' just to be sure.
Chess is a cruel sport, what can anyone gain by putting a 3 year old boy in a lion's den? I see some players after losing a game can't seem to get over with it having sleepless nights and even acting strangely. The agony of defeat in the chess arena is so profound that it can tear a man's inner being.
Weird that you mention the movie "Searching For Bobby Fischer" but didn't feature the subject of that film Josh Waitzkin, who is probably the most famous young chess prodigy who left the game
Because he erroneously attributed the movie to being about a different player, when the movie was based on a book written by Josh’s dad. The guy who made the video didn’t do his homework
I will say Josh actually stayed involved with chess, just not as a competitor. He wrote a second book several years after his last FIDE or US chess tournament and was involved with the Chessmaster video game series. But yes leaving out Josh Waitzkin is a huge oversite.
4:14 He definitely didn't just "understand the basics". I have played over a thousand chess games and over a thousand puzzels and as as a three year old he was already orders of magnitude stronger than me.
I don't want to be good at chess, I started playing at 8, then stopped playing for 6 years and started playing again because chess was gaining popularity, however I reached 2300+ elo at 17, that's a nice achievement for me, I quit now because I'm not one of those people who would study chess 8-10 hours to be an extremely good player.... Being a good chess player only tells you're good at chess
earned my respect...i did same bu rating only reached 1600,and its stuck there like i reach 1700 the drop don to 1500 and again go back to 1600..lol...well i didnt learn any openings or something
@@shrikrishnasingh1106 thanks for understanding the situation, that's ridiculously good for a player who spend less time on it but reached 1700, once I start to lose I try to win and then get a losing streak and it makes the day bad, it's like gambling and losing a lot of money I quit for several reasons as well
Note to self if I ever have a child that is a chess prodigy, and has a natural love for self directed learning about the game. I will make sure to start watching poker tournaments, and strategy videos with them every night for family bonding time. I think the key is to make subtle jabs about how chess is a fun hobby, but poker is way more complicated because of the statistical chance involved and so only the the coolest and best gamers do poker.
I met and took lessons for a short while, a very long time ago, with Edmar Mednis when he was at the Marshall Chess Club in Greenwich Village. I remember him telling me that it was very difficult to make a living at just chess, even as a grandmaster. I was very surprised at the time. I can only imagine it being so much harder these days. It seems that in most areas of human accomplishment like chess:: musical instruments, golf, fencing...etc... there is little place for the talented amature renaissance person. You need to have a single minded focus and desire almost from the womb.
Searching for Bobby Fischer was based on Josh Waitzkin, a fascinating dude with interesting takes on learning among other things. Not on Sarwer, although a game Sarwer played against Waitzkin inspired the game at the end of the movie.
@@AlbertTheGamer-gk7snLiang and Keymer are not in the same category, not even close. Keymer is 100 elo points higher and a supergm. Liang is an average young gm.
the day when Gukesh, Prag, Abhimanyu, Arjun will compete against one another.... when gukesh is already te youngest chess champion.. hold your horses gukesh Abhimanyu is coming for you...
On one hand, I think to myself "eh, Chess can't be that hard if 7 year olds can be good at it." On the other hand, I'll never know because as much as I enjoy the game on a very casual level there's no way I could ever dedicate 8 to 10 hours a day studying it. Well either way, good view, I always wondered what ever happened to that kid who played Karpov since seeing that video all those years ago.
Nothing happened to him I guess. Misha Ossipov was never a chess prodigy. He was a cute child who was taught the basics of chess amd russian media hyped him up.
Putting that much effort into anything ruins it. Even sex, ask all those ladies if they still enjoy it after turning it into a job. I dont think it is a reason to be proud to be a top chess player.
Uhh.. Micha didn't disappear. You can check his fide and he clearly played in tournaments during 2023. There are game records from january, february, may and august. It is true that there were no fide games played between april 2020 and January 2023 but whatever source you used - please stop using it or at least double check the "facts". If some site claimed that he was gone then you used outdated information which isn't good look either.
Abdusattarov, became youngest Rapid world champion, won Olimpiad in 2022, and he is number 6 in the world. Sindarov is also was one of the youngest GMs ever.
What utter gibberish .. what does that even mean if both are necessary causes and the two are incommensurable? .. try and engage your brain rather than parroting milquetoast middlebrow rubbish hunting for likes … 😂
I'm not that into chess but remember asking about the kid who played Karpov on a different video and some guy linked me his stats that were... NORMAL. Very normal. I was impressed by how he solved the puzzles on the show as a kid so was very surprised. Guess he didn't stick with it eh?
Beside hard work, you need money to get to the top of the board. I'm not talking about paying the judge but you need to travel to various places to get into some competitions to work on your FIDE rating
For me the problem with chess is it's implications.. For example, if you are a great football player or athlete, then doing that profession will allow you to earn the maximum for the amount of time you invest.. This is not the same for chess players, most pro chess players have amazing mental prowess, where If it was developed properly and used in proper industries, would make much more sense than wasting your time playing for few bucks.. Chess is not a high earning sport, but to be great at it, takes alot to time and investment. Which is not really worth it for a good chess player, cause chances are, they would make better returns on their investment by doing something else
My lame claim to fame is that I actually attended a kids tournament wish Misha!! I was like idk 11 or 12 back then and it was in Moscow. I dont remember whether or not i played with him specifically(wouldve obviously lost if i did) but i remember i did pretty good in the tournament itself (nog top 3 though obviously). The one thing o remember the most from thst day is that i really liked how i looked cause 1 girl comoounented me
@@AnnaStudioA i disagree, being able to train chess with the click of a mouse is spectacular in my opinion. Grandmasters that are dead by now could only dream about it
Dont exploit them. Make them grow off the public lights otherwise you might deprive humankind of their future work. It applies on so many instances, not only chess. You have to protect that something special
Karpov scared him straight! The 3 year old kid got PTSD that day.
Id poop my pants if I had to play Karpov. This guy held the world champion title for 10 years and is considered one of the greatest chess players ever.
@@Cyanide_and_Loneliness oh really? The world doesn't know ..
Even batman has to work hard to let me admit that i will poop just cause i am fighting a game against a GM lol @Cyanide_and_Loneliness
@@Cyanide_and_Lonelinessdude that's Kasparov not Karpov
Karpov won like once
Well, you know, 3 yr olds cry as if the world would end when they see snow. Or don't see snow. Or they don't have the right color of the candy. Or with no reason whatsoever 🤷♀️
Praggus sis became a GM this week. They are the first bro/sis that archieved this feat😂
You forgot to mention the most important feat..they both qualified for the 2024 candidates tournament
@British_vlogSomeone is going down cause they can't loot from India anymore.
@British_vlogI enjoy your frustration 😂
@British_vlogguy isn't even indian btw why the hell your cities are going bankrupt like Birmingham 😂😂
@@Ihate_riceyeah but different candidates. It is more impressive that she got grandmaster title I think.
Gukesh now won the candidates and became the youngest to do so
And Now 4 months later gukesh won the candidates , becoming the youngest and 2nd from India after vishy anand. Going to challange world champion.
He is probably going to win it too.
And now over a month of Gukesh's win Pragg defeated Magnus Carlsen in classical chess game
And now 1 month later Gukesh officialy wins the world championship for 10 years in a row
And now 5 months later he won gold for india in olympiad
Talent has always been there in india it's always about the opportunity. As india's economy grows it has substance for other things and supporting sports is one of them. You will notice that not many companies sponser chess but huge indian corporation are keen in spending a lot of money on the promotion of chess. After Vishy, a whole generation full of talents went on steroids like a big bang and the country just exploded with potential.
In my heart, Vishy maight not be the best chess player but he's the greatest. I mean, which WCC could inspire an entire country of 1.4B and nurture a wave of talents? From zero GM's to now becoming a powerhouse. What an inspiration.
Viswanathan Anand is not a chess player. He was a revolutionary. This guy single handedly made a chess revolution in india. For 1.4 billion people, he is the God of chess
It is strange that no one ever mentions Vincent Keymer. He turned 19 just a few days ago, #14 in the world, trailing Pragg just by 2.4 Elo points and ranking before Vidit, Erigaisi, Abdussatorov and Gukesh. Plus he has beaten Carlsen lately and just failed to beat and eliminate him in the second game because he did not convert a winning position. Guess he has to be in the top five before people can't ignore him anymore.
Evil white German.
Rating is nothing it's keeps on falling and growing
@@samarthbagwe1736 Ridiculous. Elo is EVERYTHING to the players. Right now the top 15 are struggling crazily for Elo because it will decide the last spot in the candidates.
oh yes, I've been really disappointed by people always ignoring his existance
Keymer is a great player....his time at the top is coming soon
I think having a three-year-old play chess on TV with a former World Champion is borderline abuse.
Yeah that kid quit chess
It was not a competition .It was like playing with a old man who happened to be the FINAL BOSS of CHESS.
It was a wholesome show where 3 year old boy showed off his capabilities.
@@ndnd7614I don't have any idea whether you are being sarcastic or something...
@@xe5101 im not that kid actually quit competitive chess
I don't think so, I've seen him a couple of times on the Russian chess Channel "Chess Fight Night". At the very least he's playing Blitz still.@@ndnd7614
Ossipov was never chess prodigy, just a cute child who learned chess moves very early and was hyped in Russian TV.
Mishra is doing OK, won US junior Championsips and had 4th place in adult Championships after Caruana, So and Dominguez.
Pragg is a real deal.He is already no.13 in the world and top 10 is not so far.
That is what I thought.. that kid was no prodigy ;)
A grandmaster rated 2600 would be lucky to make $20,000 a year playing chess tournament winnings.
Ossipov never had the makings of a varsity athlete
Mishra is only 14 dude he is doing amazingly for hiss he breaking 2600
Mishra is doing okay for his age and pragg already in candidates.
Who is watching this after Gukesh winning the FIDE Candidate..
Pragg is doing well and by the way what happened to this kid Magnus Carlsen who managed to draw against Kasparov at the age 13 ?
He lost to Vaishali when she was 12. What a noob.
This Carlsen kid has vanished from chess.
He was sent back to his planet
he drew Kasparov, beat Karpov....i heard he started playing poker
@@Bsweet117i thought he grew up and just became a drunk. Dr drunkenstein is what they call him on the streets
Gukesh was so talented that he became a Grandmaster without learning opening theory. After that, he was advised to learn opening theory.
Giles his still so talented.
Gukesh learned the game at the age of 7, so it took him 10 years to win the Candidates!
india is becoming the new powehouse of chess
They are taking over!
All thanks to legendary Vishy Anand for inspiring a new generation of players
Yeah i agree
Hope we can dominate just like Soviets
Pretty easy to do if you have like 2 billion population....
I knew I recognised that game you showed at 0:10... That's Petrosian's blunder in the match against Bronstein, 1956. I double-checked with Donner's 'The King' just to be sure.
"Misha had a peak fide rating of 1173"
me who has a fide rating of 1109:
Chess is a cruel sport, what can anyone gain by putting a 3 year old boy in a lion's den? I see some players after losing a game can't seem to get over with it having sleepless nights and even acting strangely. The agony of defeat in the chess arena is so profound that it can tear a man's inner being.
We have a kid in our club, 9 years old, already 2000 rated with a CM title, we like to joke he'll be in the candidates in 10 years.
"9 years old, already 2000 rated with a CM title"
Karpov: Now this looks like a job for me
Literally ever top chess players was a prodigy.
This video aged like a fine wine, after gukesh wining the candidates and becoming the youngest player to do soo
Still looking for the part 'where are these prodigies now' you only explained about world produced young chess talent
Weird that you mention the movie "Searching For Bobby Fischer" but didn't feature the subject of that film Josh Waitzkin, who is probably the most famous young chess prodigy who left the game
That's what I was waiting for.
Because he erroneously attributed the movie to being about a different player, when the movie was based on a book written by Josh’s dad. The guy who made the video didn’t do his homework
Correction needed for sure
I will say Josh actually stayed involved with chess, just not as a competitor. He wrote a second book several years after his last FIDE or US chess tournament and was involved with the Chessmaster video game series. But yes leaving out Josh Waitzkin is a huge oversite.
Why does mishra look so devious on 0:50
Gukesh is now the WC challenger.
4:14 He definitely didn't just "understand the basics". I have played over a thousand chess games and over a thousand puzzels and as as a three year old he was already orders of magnitude stronger than me.
ability check?
Mentally disabled?
@@Charless_Martelno. It's totally normal to be at that level.
I don't want to be good at chess, I started playing at 8, then stopped playing for 6 years and started playing again because chess was gaining popularity, however I reached 2300+ elo at 17, that's a nice achievement for me, I quit now because I'm not one of those people who would study chess 8-10 hours to be an extremely good player....
Being a good chess player only tells you're good at chess
earned my respect...i did same bu rating only reached 1600,and its stuck there like i reach 1700 the drop don to 1500 and again go back to 1600..lol...well i didnt learn any openings or something
@@shrikrishnasingh1106 thanks for understanding the situation, that's ridiculously good for a player who spend less time on it but reached 1700, once I start to lose I try to win and then get a losing streak and it makes the day bad, it's like gambling and losing a lot of money
I quit for several reasons as well
I mean, he’s 10…
Where were all of us when we were 10? I’d say let him have a childhood before trying to make his history one of failure.
Note to self if I ever have a child that is a chess prodigy, and has a natural love for self directed learning about the game. I will make sure to start watching poker tournaments, and strategy videos with them every night for family bonding time. I think the key is to make subtle jabs about how chess is a fun hobby, but poker is way more complicated because of the statistical chance involved and so only the the coolest and best gamers do poker.
when the poker part of jeff's intro segment was being narrated, i was expecting a curveball and that magnus would just be mentioned lmao
Happy to hear that Misha got spared and now 10 years old alive and well.
Watching after Gukesh won Candidates
I met and took lessons for a short while, a very long time ago, with Edmar Mednis when he was at the Marshall Chess Club in Greenwich Village. I remember him telling me that it was very difficult to make a living at just chess, even as a grandmaster. I was very surprised at the time. I can only imagine it being so much harder these days. It seems that in most areas of human accomplishment like chess:: musical instruments, golf, fencing...etc... there is little place for the talented amature renaissance person. You need to have a single minded focus and desire almost from the womb.
That’s so true. It’s like the top .5% of all of the people that actually play it, get paid and make it in a sport.
Gokesh won Fide candidates finals.... And he is second after vishu sir for playing word Champaign ship
Pragg, Gukesh ❤️❤️🇮🇳🇮🇳
Indians are also the same people who went rabid on chat and insulted everyone who likes magnus just because magnus is winning against pragg
Go India!
This is incomplete without firoujza and abdustarrov nodirbek
and Magnus
We Indians thank Vishwanathan Anand for inspiring and Nurturing new generation of chess players
Abhimanyu's stare 🫣
As of yesterday, Ghukesh is challenging for the world chess championship
Yes, I saw, that is crazy, how do you think he will do?
@@rookmovesi my opinion i think ding will defend his title he has better record against gukesh
9:00 when you said poker I wondered if you are gonna talk about Magnus 😅
I'm 32 qnd only plays chess casually on my phone. But knowing that 3 year old could possibly crush me makes me want to uninstall.
throw your ego down the drain and just enjoy the game.
Praggnanandhaa lost many games to magnus lol, but he is a very good player
looking at that face 1:25 he was either going to be a chess master or serial killer. hehe
Lolol 😂
Why not both?
@@youtubecensors5419 cuz then the comment wouldn't be funny.
Being great at chess is a huge time sink. It's not something a lot of people is willing to do especially children
There are many undiscovered prodigy in india
Prag is literally the future WCC
Searching for Bobby Fischer was based on Josh Waitzkin, a fascinating dude with interesting takes on learning among other things. Not on Sarwer, although a game Sarwer played against Waitzkin inspired the game at the end of the movie.
A tournament game drawn against him by, Joshua Waitzkin, was the inspiration for the climax in the film Searching for Bobby Fischer.
i cant imagine a 3 year old would beat me at chess
that is inconceivable to me
but that 3 year old has 1134 rating while my elo is 834
Searching for Bobby Fischer is about Joshua Waitzkin, not about Sarwer
I was expecting to see Lu Miaoyi here. Great video!
Karpov fed from the soul of the little kid.
Abhimanyu Mishra really do be lookin like Banku from Bhoothnath 1
10:23 I think the film '"Searching for Bobby Fischer" was based on Josh Waitzin another prodigy, rather than Sarwer as mentioned in the video
yeah he is josh
Statistics show that osipov playes a OTB tournament in Moscow in 2023!
Kinda sad that Vincent Keymer usually is ignored in videos like these...
And Awonder Liang, as well.
@@AlbertTheGamer-gk7snLiang and Keymer are not in the same category, not even close. Keymer is 100 elo points higher and a supergm. Liang is an average young gm.
@@yusouph2002 Well, Liang and Keymer were increasing around the same rate, but Liang plateaued, and Keymer kept on increasing.
one of the 3 kids in the thumbnail died in a chess match on national Tv
which one?? I didnt know about this
the day when Gukesh, Prag, Abhimanyu, Arjun will compete against one another.... when gukesh is already te youngest chess champion..
hold your horses gukesh Abhimanyu is coming for you...
Rooting on Gukesh
@@rookmoves me too,, but the form of young gm is fantabulous
Looking for bobby ficher is not based on the guy you presented, but on a chess player with a similar story names Joshua waitzkin
On one hand, I think to myself "eh, Chess can't be that hard if 7 year olds can be good at it." On the other hand, I'll never know because as much as I enjoy the game on a very casual level there's no way I could ever dedicate 8 to 10 hours a day studying it. Well either way, good view, I always wondered what ever happened to that kid who played Karpov since seeing that video all those years ago.
You're right, it isn't hard provided you have time and dedication, which is easier for younger people
easy to learn hard to master
Nothing happened to him I guess. Misha Ossipov was never a chess prodigy. He was a cute child who was taught the basics of chess amd russian media hyped him up.
Putting that much effort into anything ruins it. Even sex, ask all those ladies if they still enjoy it after turning it into a job. I dont think it is a reason to be proud to be a top chess player.
indians are always great in this game ..... india /BHARAT where chess invented .
Uhh.. Micha didn't disappear. You can check his fide and he clearly played in tournaments during 2023. There are game records from january, february, may and august. It is true that there were no fide games played between april 2020 and January 2023 but whatever source you used - please stop using it or at least double check the "facts". If some site claimed that he was gone then you used outdated information which isn't good look either.
Nice video! Where are you from btw?
Thank you! Im from Lebanon
Whenever I see that three year old from Russia I just think of the final boss of chess meme 😂😂
5:27 He won "Under-8" title at just 7 years old? Is that supposed to be surprising?
Yeah that was not phrased well
"winning the under eight chess championship at just 7"
Like how would he win that any older.
Mishra look badass and intimating af 😂😂
😂😂😂
Ain’t nobody and I mean nobody better than Bobby Fischer.
Really magnus is better than fisher
Abdusattarov, became youngest Rapid world champion, won Olimpiad in 2022, and he is number 6 in the world. Sindarov is also was one of the youngest GMs ever.
Jeff was the son of Bob Ross 😮 10:08
My teacher used to say that genius is about 10% talent and 90% perseverance.
Without talent, no amount of perseverance will give you genius status
Your teacher said it so must be true right?
What utter gibberish .. what does that even mean if both are necessary causes and the two are incommensurable? .. try and engage your brain rather than parroting milquetoast middlebrow rubbish hunting for likes … 😂
You cant will yourself to genius.. its part of iq make up and giftings
Searching for the next bobby Fischer was based on josh waitzkin.
Thanks for this posting John Barnett ❤California Love Notes to All of you ❤ revisited December 2034
I'm not that into chess but remember asking about the kid who played Karpov on a different video and some guy linked me his stats that were... NORMAL. Very normal. I was impressed by how he solved the puzzles on the show as a kid so was very surprised. Guess he didn't stick with it eh?
because people who improve too fast burn out
what happened to that one chess prodigy magnus carlson
Beside hard work, you need money to get to the top of the board. I'm not talking about paying the judge but you need to travel to various places to get into some competitions to work on your FIDE rating
For me the problem with chess is it's implications..
For example, if you are a great football player or athlete, then doing that profession will allow you to earn the maximum for the amount of time you invest..
This is not the same for chess players, most pro chess players have amazing mental prowess, where If it was developed properly and used in proper industries, would make much more sense than wasting your time playing for few bucks.. Chess is not a high earning sport, but to be great at it, takes alot to time and investment. Which is not really worth it for a good chess player, cause chances are, they would make better returns on their investment by doing something else
You should add Nodirbek in the list too...
Thie is so underated video omg-
Thank you!
1:39 king and queen on wrong squares
Nobody knows why Mishra always mad?
I love Pragg❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Hey! Can someone tell me what the background music during when he’s describing prag is called? Please and thank you!
Normal. Otherwise, we'd be seeing the top students in schools rising to the top in every company.
Misha looks like miniature Tom Felton
My lame claim to fame is that I actually attended a kids tournament wish Misha!! I was like idk 11 or 12 back then and it was in Moscow. I dont remember whether or not i played with him specifically(wouldve obviously lost if i did) but i remember i did pretty good in the tournament itself (nog top 3 though obviously). The one thing o remember the most from thst day is that i really liked how i looked cause 1 girl comoounented me
So many Indian chess players.
"The ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman. The ability to play chess well is the sign of a wasted life." - P. Morphy
How come I never heard of pragananda??? He beat carlsen twice for goodness sake😂😂😮
You surely don't follow professional chess then
Mishra ❤
I believe I am an anti-genius (or stupid, silly, etc.): I got a phd in math at 42 and I have got a position in research in pure math at 50.
There are 10 more magnuses WE ARE COOKED
I have 1900 elo and i am 8 years old
Play otb tournaments, online elo is not a good way to show that you are a chess prodigy
Remember to take it slowly in classical chess. I always crush 8-10 year olds just because they play too fast and blunder.
Online doesn’t matter lol😂😂😂
@@thatbostix2liar
@@AnnaStudioA i disagree, being able to train chess with the click of a mouse is spectacular in my opinion. Grandmasters that are dead by now could only dream about it
1173 at 10? Mishra was 2400+ by then. Don't think Osipov belongs here...
Pragg is playing this year's candidates
I thought Missa was there was TRP
Your bookmark is showing pranav Anand instead of Pragg ananda
All seems to be Indians. that first kid shown at starting is also an Indian - american..
Indian American? And the youngest on the left is Russian?
Holy shit, is that eric hansen getting disrespected by a kid at the beginning
Gukesh,prag still live and play tournaments
Dont exploit them. Make them grow off the public lights otherwise you might deprive humankind of their future work. It applies on so many instances, not only chess. You have to protect that something special