it’s 100% Helena Eagan down there, not Helly R. she lied, she was mostly asking questions relating to what they saw, and the way she said “actually we’re not the same” when Mark said that the innies and outies were the same. She also didn’t have the muscle memory to turn the button on the computer on, like Milchick did in a previous scene. Helena Eagan is going undercover to find out what the innies know and what they might have said to anyone on the outside.
@@mobiusbelts3607Of course she would have know when it was nighttime - she “left” and night and “came back” the same evening. Plus the people around her would have told her.
@@mobiusbelts3607 No - "Helena would've known it was nighttime during the switch" - couldn't be more plain than that. Of course she aware - they both were aware of the transitions - both happening at night.
So glad to see this uploaded! You guys were locked in. I also agree that it hasn’t been 5 months, mainly because of what you saw right when you said that, Milchick still unpacking boxes. Also, the “Ms. Cobel” screensaver, hard to believe that would still be there that far in the future especially if hes so upset about it. Also feeling pretty confident that is outtie Helly for several reasons. In her conversation with Mark in the hallway, her outburst about innies and outties not being the same is pretty weird. Her actor is also very talented and you can tell that she is doing something with her facial mannerisms, its subtle but its giving me the impression that its not her. Im sure you’ll get other comments listing the numerous other hints. Also, not to use trailer spoilers but we see what appears to be actual innie Helly coming out of the elevator which didnt happen this episode. Another big clue that it’s not her is her struggling with the computer switch at the end. We just saw immediately prior that both Milchick and Mark have it down to muscle memory, and even Helly would at this point be seemingly more familiar with her workstation than what we saw. And the Gemma reveal at the end was insane, seems to confirm a lot of people’s theories about what MDR is actually doing with their work…if you pause and look you’ll see that it says “Iteration #25”… I also have to add that after watching this reaction I’d say that Ms. Huang looks like she could be your child 😂😂
so in the flashes at the end with Gemma's photo and data, it says ITNO 25 (BUILD) (iteration number 25)... I think lumon has made Mark refine Gemma at least a few times, and she's now on the 25th build! So happy numbers and sad numbers etc are memories... Mark was able to breeze through his first file after being severed, as he mentioned in s1 (his 'freshman fluke'), because the file was Gemma..
technically, theres a good chance that helly is really helena meaning shes not her innie but is a mole for kier. Im curious if this means maybe the outie can eventually help or this spells out certain doom for helly. If shes kept from coming back, shes effectively deleted.
"Trust nothing" is still the best bet. We really need to know what happened outside to start being sure of anything, like the passage of time. That newspaper was hilariously exaggerated though, so I expect they made a significantly smaller impact.
i wonder if the crew is all like Gemma now, none of them can leave. Also, i think because each person has their own numbers on their screens that they respond to, i think they are error correcting their own chips. I think they have Mark deleting Gemma from his own mind from that last shot.
The narrator of the macrodat uprising claymation was Keanu Reeves lmfao
Haha dead. For real?
it’s 100% Helena Eagan down there, not Helly R. she lied, she was mostly asking questions relating to what they saw, and the way she said “actually we’re not the same” when Mark said that the innies and outies were the same. She also didn’t have the muscle memory to turn the button on the computer on, like Milchick did in a previous scene. Helena Eagan is going undercover to find out what the innies know and what they might have said to anyone on the outside.
Ahh that makes so much sense haha. Can’t believe that didn’t cross our minds.
Ahh this is gonna be a wild season.
Helena would've known it was nighttime during the switch; I think Helly R made some kind of deal to keep her friends safe...
@@mobiusbelts3607Of course she would have know when it was nighttime - she “left” and night and “came back” the same evening. Plus the people around her would have told her.
@@sedawk I just meant I think Helly made the comment about seeing the gardener, not Helena.
@@mobiusbelts3607 No - "Helena would've known it was nighttime during the switch" - couldn't be more plain than that. Of course she aware - they both were aware of the transitions - both happening at night.
So glad to see this uploaded! You guys were locked in.
I also agree that it hasn’t been 5 months, mainly because of what you saw right when you said that, Milchick still unpacking boxes. Also, the “Ms. Cobel” screensaver, hard to believe that would still be there that far in the future especially if hes so upset about it.
Also feeling pretty confident that is outtie Helly for several reasons. In her conversation with Mark in the hallway, her outburst about innies and outties not being the same is pretty weird. Her actor is also very talented and you can tell that she is doing something with her facial mannerisms, its subtle but its giving me the impression that its not her. Im sure you’ll get other comments listing the numerous other hints. Also, not to use trailer spoilers but we see what appears to be actual innie Helly coming out of the elevator which didnt happen this episode.
Another big clue that it’s not her is her struggling with the computer switch at the end. We just saw immediately prior that both Milchick and Mark have it down to muscle memory, and even Helly would at this point be seemingly more familiar with her workstation than what we saw.
And the Gemma reveal at the end was insane, seems to confirm a lot of people’s theories about what MDR is actually doing with their work…if you pause and look you’ll see that it says “Iteration #25”…
I also have to add that after watching this reaction I’d say that Ms. Huang looks like she could be your child 😂😂
so in the flashes at the end with Gemma's photo and data, it says ITNO 25 (BUILD) (iteration number 25)... I think lumon has made Mark refine Gemma at least a few times, and she's now on the 25th build! So happy numbers and sad numbers etc are memories... Mark was able to breeze through his first file after being severed, as he mentioned in s1 (his 'freshman fluke'), because the file was Gemma..
1st episode is all innie, 2nd is all outie, and episode 4, according to Ben Stiller, will be 'art' :)
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technically, theres a good chance that helly is really helena meaning shes not her innie but is a mole for kier. Im curious if this means maybe the outie can eventually help or this spells out certain doom for helly. If shes kept from coming back, shes effectively deleted.
"Trust nothing" is still the best bet. We really need to know what happened outside to start being sure of anything, like the passage of time. That newspaper was hilariously exaggerated though, so I expect they made a significantly smaller impact.
This season's gonna be wild
This weekly wait is gonna be painful. haha
i wonder if the crew is all like Gemma now, none of them can leave. Also, i think because each person has their own numbers on their screens that they respond to, i think they are error correcting their own chips. I think they have Mark deleting Gemma from his own mind from that last shot.
also, i think Hellie is definitly her outie
tramell tillmans so good at doing a smile that makes you uncomfortable lol
Haha right?
theory on the ending is that they are refining the brains of their dead loved ones
Happy New Year Phil and Erika🎉🎉
Happy 2025🎉
That is not Helly R i also think that's Helena
its almost definitively so but there are things that counter it so itll be interesting to see if its the outie or even a new innie personality.
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