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Just a few notes .
1) That doesn't look like the latest generation focusrite solo. The new version looks different and has quarter inch jack outputs vs the RCA outputs on the one used in the test. So would be interesting to see if this NEW version which anybody
buying now would be getting would sound better than this older one.
2) Most guys using a scarlett interface are not recording out of the outputs into the analog domain. They will be recording and mastering inside the box. They will also be doing internal rendering of the audio. So the audio would not be compromised by the analog outputs in terms of audio quality. ..
I don't know, man. Listened through several sources, and I'm sure RUclips isn't the best at providing a good platform for this, but I think the real story is how bummed I would be if I heard how closely a $150 interface came to matching my $10,000 golden piece of gear.
Maybe I'm just not hearing the fairy dust?
i remember being a lot like the posters in this thread.. thinking that because i can hear that they are different, i can hear how the expensive gear is "better". but hearing that they are different is just hearing that they are different.
For most - the cheapest option is obviously better (personally I'd go for a MOTU or SSL interface) - but if you're working professionally as an mixer/masterer/studio engineer - the higher quality, but also the prestige is going to help your business.
@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE which is what the real point in all of this is, at this stage. it looks good in a studio and impresses clients (maybe). but conversion just isn't that complicated anymore. there are no bad converters. many of the hits from 2000s onwards were recorded through vastly worse converters than you'll get in the cheapest audio interface these days.
and i am not opposed to expensive gear. i have a bunch. but "better" conversion is helping 0 peoples music and audio fidelity in this day and age. there's no such thing IMV. and i would love to see double blind experiments showing otherwise... which is there one thing no one ever seems to do - ever. and they know why. it's the for the same reason that we tweak settings on bypassed plugins until we get the right sound! :D
@@skeen0076 An ten percent increase in quality at 100 percent of the cost - is worth it for the professional who can justify it, of course.
@@skeen0076 But don't take my word for it - I'm an great guitar player, I'm not yet an great producer/mixer/masterer!
Although there is a difference they are opposite ends of the spectrum. What would be interesting is a comparison between an interface in the £500-£800 range vs something in the £1.5k-£2k range.
Yeah I think my id44 ii would get me much closer with its DAC
Defo, I’m looking at going from a FR 4i4 to an Apollo Twin X Quad
I doubt you would hear any difference, certainly on a RUclips video.
I like these videos that are on the opposite ends because then you can hear what you are potentially missing with the budget gear. Your idea is great too, I would love to hear my ID44 vs a higher end RME or something
there are many of those, they will sound the same. especially in that range.
I'll be honest with you, with my eyes closed I can tell when you switch between the two, but they sound 99% the same. They may sound 1% different, but neither sounds better than the other. A 1% difference, but not 1% better.
It sounds like there's a lot of coping going on for spending so much money on something that makes zero real world difference. Excuse me for not being as "sophisticated" as the other commenters, but I'd rather save 10k for things that will make my projects sound better to real listeners. This should be an ad to buy focusrite: sounds 99% the same, but 99% cheaper.
You should have them unlabeled and then reveal them. Thats the only way to do It. Were you afraid of the result??? None of what comments say mean something, It wasnt a blind test
How about an interface that costs a little more than $100 but not $10,000?... I have an Audient ID14 for about $300 and there are plenty of affordable interfaces in the $300-500 range that I'm sure beat the $100 versions, so it would be cool to see a comparison with them... By the way, your advice has been invaluable for me as I am now recording, mixing and mastering for 2+ artists and your tutelage has given me many great tips and procedures... Thanks!
I had an ID22 that I really liked. Intuitive design, nice sounding pre's. Unfortunately the mass production noted in this vid came home to roost and something went fatally wrong inside it. Lots of threads on this particular flaw out there - hopefully yours gets the mileage you need out of it.
@@ericm4053 i was able to extend the life of mine by doing the online trans switch. Audient is suppose to have good conversion for its price. new transiter only cost like 8 bucks
thankss for this one, the difference is so massive on the raw files...RUclips is ruining a big part of this test and even so we can hear the differences!
can'"t wait to hear the same test with the AD ;=), there are none on youtube too ;=)
comparing also with others high grade converter such as the lynx you already have, the last neuman- merging and DAD would be from another level ;=)
This all reminds me of the machine that goes "ping" from the Monty Python movie. And of course, Spinal Tap amps that go to 11
I was hoping there would be no noticeable difference...there certainly is an audible difference. Especially as you said, in the depth and low end. Interesting. Thank you for this video.
@fartpoobox ohyeah I agree on the blindtest aspect. However, there is a difference in sound.
Either my headphones or my ears (or both) aren't good enough, but being very honest, the tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny (did I say tiny?) difference I noticed would never justify the monstruous difference in price. Never. Of course, there's the physical quality of the thing itself, durability of the components, resources, level of control, etc, etc, etc... and all of this impacts on the price, but as for the final result? There's no way you could show me one of the two samples and I could tell which interface it was coming from.
The person who ends up listening to your song on ear pods through Spotify will never know the difference, spend the $9k one a good holiday :)
Not the case, actually... You think you're not hearing high quality subs or top ends, but they manage to get on your earpods through harmonics...
If you don't treat them well... or if you get rid of them anyway... listeners, or even customers, will compare your music with high level productions...
Based on real facts...
@@darkhunterc7 Low end and harmonics are completely different things. Although the harmonics are part of the musical notes, if you lose the low end, the harmonics still remain!!!
@@darkhunterc7 Nah lmao, Xxxtentacion recorded his music on a laptop using a snowball cheap microphone and got BILLIONS and BILLIONS of plays on Spotify and RUclips.
It's not about the audio quality, it's about the story behind the artist, and his/her capability to gain fans.
On the other side, there are bands making boring music at studios that cost 10 million dollars, and they have like 10,000 plays per song lmao
the differences add up. add in quality variation with ADC, preamps, mics, plugins, and it all makes a v serious difference. expensive records sound clear. heart to heart, space to space. cheap records sound distorted and harsh. it is what it is
Leveling down isn't the really point... 😉
Streaky I'm just saying, this is not really fair because of the Unbalanced RCA which is -10 dbu vs a +4 dbu output of the lavry is the weirdest test ever, the impedance difference would be something along the lines of at least 5Kilo-ohms, LOL you should have a least spent the extra $20 and picked up a 2i2 with a +4 dbu output. The difference you are hearing will be more pronounced by the unbalanced output of the Focusrite rather than the converter itself.
The Lavry is a complete rip off. Not even worth $500. Think of the opportunity cost of putting that in your studio as compared to other gear. The difference between it and the $100 product (which has more features mind you, like input and 48V phantom power) is near negligible. With the money saved you could buy so many things all of which will have much greater impact on your sound. Not to mention that is the output we're listening to, which aside from it's impact on your mixing is entirely irrelevant. End users don't hear the output of your interface. They do hear the quality of your mics and whole host of other variables.
I bought a dedicated high end DAC and it was the biggest difference of anything I ever bought in the studio including monitors.
I bought a Benchmark DAC and now I use the built in headphone amps on my Slate VSX and getting great mixes.
That’s amazing so did you get better mixes? So how does that work!? Does it connect to your computer or interface?! I been thinking how to get the highest conversion I can with out breaking the bank or having to sale my leg or arm lol 😅😂 I hope you reply bc I’m super interested! Thanks
@@Beatsnmotivation just buy a DAC connect it and your DAW will be able to display the name in the audio output options.
@@bonaoenchelcha thanks a bunch man!!
Im sure you hear a difference in Streaky's studio or using comparable gear. Most people will experience what i just did using my phone and earbuds and you can't tell the difference .
The take away is that you don't have to spend alot of money to get started. As your career progresses you will aquire better quality gear that is appropriate to your situation.
Yes I can confirm that no one is as crazy as you for doing such a comparison ! Hahahaha
Thank you Streaky for the video 😁
I really like such comparison videos, it’s so interesting
I think for just bass DI and guitar DI the solo is good. Kind of like the slight mid forwardness of the Solo though that might be buyer's bias. Great vid. Would be interesting to see $750-1k (or somewhere where there's a preamp(?) jump of quality) vs. $10,000.
What about doing a blind test? That would be interesting! :D
That’s what I thought about a lot!
Kings clothes.
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@@Streaky_com does Focusrite have white noise normally when you plug it into speakers?? Mine has this white noise that i just cant seem to rid off
@@oompaloompa3188 it can be also from speakers, cables, but yeah it is possible also from focusrite. I have 8i8 then replace with audient and the difference is big…no noise at all. If you looking for good price range interface try audient. They have more dynamic range, clean preamps and converters from higher price range
I brought the two files into the DAW and set them up with a blind test plugin and choose which I thought sounded the best. And.. I chose the Focusrite! No shit.
Oops 😂😂😂
Sorry but anything that isn't a double blind test isn't a valid test. Not for you and especially not for anyone watching.
Expectation bias is a real thing.
Do a double blind test then download the files
I donwloaded the files immediatly after you suggested to do so..... man.... i had a great time🤤 👍👍👍
I feel like a more fair comparison I would love to see someone do, would be tracking through them with the same external preamp. If the source material was already recorded through a budget interface, I don't think you'll hear a difference in a comparison like this. But if the source material was recorded on a high-end setup like a Burl Mothership, than I imagine you would hear a subtle difference. But in a Mastering facility environment, a high-end converters primary purpose is to ensures that no matter what the source material was recorded on, it is not being degraded in any way. What this example tells me, is that the source material was recorded with a better converter than the Scarlett interface, which is why we can hear the difference. So anyone mastering with a budget interface would probably be better off mastering 100% in the box, vs routing to hardware. Just wanted to bring additional perspective for those near the start of their audio journey.
yes.
Well I'd argue there would be a difference in tracking due to different noise floors and dynamic ranges. But the difference wouldn't be that much of night and day as it is in the video. But especially when it comes to recording songs where you only have a guitar or piano with a vocal, you will hear a massive difference to to the earlier mentioned specs.
@@ModernArtProductions it's not the 90s. the crappiest interface on the planet has an enormous dynamic range and an irrelevant noise floor. and if this were all tracked and mixed on the focusrite, the mixer would get exactly the result they want.. because there is nothing the larvry is adding that can't be made up elsewhere.
Not a real test as it was sighted. Try it level matched and blindfolded with someone else switching. Audiophiles fail at this almost every time when comparing competent dacs…
I’ve done that, give it a try
Focusrite blows it out of the water man!
The Lavry is nice and the reality is that it has "THAT" sound from all the major mastering facilities and thus a sound we're used to. A juicy sound. Nice contrast with the clean A/D. So there's value in that Sound. As a house music guy I wonder if that lowend bloom is suitable for the extra punch. This is why I've been looking at the Dangerous rather as that has a more pronounced thump that's not as round as Cranesong/Lavry.... Part of why RME is celebrated in the House world. It has a tight punchy lowend, Also had a Prism that I thought would be nice for Live styles but we have to factor in the Genre and sometimes one can/should do with a flat punchy converter so as to emphasize transient and purposefully lose the extra depth. House Music is not going to require the Lavry so much as the clean punchy stuff... My 2cents in this journey.
Idk but just love RME
Love all your vids! What I'd love to see / hear is what the RME UC is like compared to the Lynx. Any chance you could make that happen Streaky???
I downloaded the project files. Trying to align them there seems to be some drifting going on. Could it be some inconsistent clock in your digital signal chain?
Nope unless they are Reclocking internally
Very interesting, because the rapper Solja Boy used the original Mbox, Marshall MXL mic, the stock sounds in FL studio 5 and recorded everything in an untreated room and sold 10 million records, I know people with a million dollars worth of equipment and big studios that can't even sell 2 copies🤔
Hey Chief
1) What do you think of the Merging Anubis compared to the Hilo and The Lavry.
2) What do you! think of the Different Lavrys like Blue, Gold, and do you think the older Models
Still stand up to modern Times?
Like is an, for instance, Old Prism (that can "only" do 20Bit/96K or similar Hardware) Sonicly as good as a modern Hilo (or equivalent)?
The Lavry Gives A Better Resolution, Depth and Punch.
Look at these funny people, comparing irrelevant things.
Just do a double blind test with more than one song and see if you can feel any of the terms used here "depth", "spacious", "definition"...etc?🤔 (hint: don't lie to yourself after the results are revealed)
The Lavry has much better separation, width, and transient detail. It also interestingly has a bit of a vibe in the mids. Maybe not worth the $9000 price difference - but like with most things audio, there are diminishing returns on cost above a few thousand dollars.
I have the RME ADI-2 Pro FS - I was able to easily hear the difference between these two interfaces, even through YT compression. Great video as always Streaky, keep it up.
This is a performance of a good clock qwartz, and mainly OP's performance. Also it can be less analog stuff after OP's in Lavry. Might be Lavry got AKM DA converters.
Sorry, hate RME type of sound. It's crystal harsh.☺️
I'm glad you convinced me not to spend anything more than $100 on this if I can't tell the difference :)
So if I put some Maldon salt on my Focusrite........
laughing at your friend for having a Scarlett is lame behavior.
After downloading the files and compared them into cubase, it's night an day. The Lavry win by a million kilometers.
I'm astonished by how more stereo the Lavry feels.
It would be super cool to hear the differences with an interface in between those two, like a Apollo x8 or a MOTU m8 !
Apollo sounds weird wen you record mic’s
hahahahahhaha 😂😂😂😂😂
Did you also hear the birds singing from the next yard? Did you also hear the sound of a fly flying in the studio? The right wing was clearly audible
@@Нитакой yes ! And I also eared your mom moaning !
@@Нитакой It was the left wing, your speaker cable polarity is inverted.
wow. there is a difference. I wonder how much it would affect dialogue ie podcasting
@John Doe not a great deal
focusrite was a bit more Forward in the mix and the lows were a bit thinner. All that can be fixed in the mix!
But that’s the point it was fine before you didn’t need to fix it you just couldn’t hear it was alright
It would have been much more fair to compare using an interface costing a few hundred dollars more like an audient id14 or the focusrite claret. Scarlett is almost bottom of the barrel. Of course this was intentional though.
I know, i'm getting into technical details now, but sound of the ad/da converters depending mainly on a few steps that are cruicial for the sound. Clock, converter chip, op amps, hardware oversampling unit (better without) and overall analog schematic line after op's (the less, the better). So if we analyze Lavry components, we can make Lavry copy with much less price of the original. Maybe for 1/20 of a price.
Yeah I’m sure but you are paying for the guys r & d mainly…
@@Streaky_com yeah, but mostly all engineers who works with all that sound stuff are actually knows these specs. It's not a secret, but an agreement between companies. That's why Lavry costs that much, because not everyone can afford this converter easily. They could lower the price, but they have to deal with corporation mafia, cuz they'll start breaking corp business, taking away customers. Other side that Lavry is presented as a hi-end stuff in pro world. It's all about money actually. If we take simple behringer eq and solder out all that high error percentage components which are deliberately installed on the analog line of the device, we will have very good clean eq compared to 2-3k units. And if we add some nice sounding transformers or triod/pentode stuff (which sometimes are very expensive), we will get additional coloration/saturation compared to even 5-7k devices.
@@Streaky_com r&d in this case is more about comfort related between hardware and software
Focusrite is a beast for its price!!
Ummm yeah no.
@@assshakerstudios549 If your goal isn’t the high end sound like the real pros out there, then it’s actually a really good interface, and let’s be honest… most of us (hobby musicians) doesn’t hear that big of a difference
You’re absolutely right, I’ve got the solo and I’m pretty happy with it so far
If you just playing around buy focusrite, if you are going to record people or you want to be a musician or producer dont.
@@orlandonieves8723 tell that to billie eilish...... didn't they record her whole first album though a focusrite and cheap mic? yes, yes they did.
If Lavry didn't produced any of DAC chips, these is no way accept this price. Audio interface brand just buy the ADCs and DACs chip and optimized the performance by the peripheral circuit. But the key of the performance is the chips, there is no that much room to optimize. Enclosure, buttons and meter gimmick costed more than the circuit.
Listened with some nice headphones and I'm struggling to tell the difference... Cant imagine spending $9,900 more dollars for what seems like maybe a 5% increase in quality, unless I am totally missing something.
Damn! Now i am very curious how other interfaces compare.
Like my Motu M2, but also some higher end stuff that maybe come's close and still be a lot cheaper..
Of course the Professor gave us a download!! Doing the heavy lifting on the teaching...🔥🔥
I’ve had lavry, I now use focusrite and it’s absolutely fine. Horses for courses though
@PepperCryBeatz that's a random upgrade :)
@@Streaky_com yeah man I went all out! 😂
Honestly I just realised that all that stuff is a bit unnecessary not to mention inconvenient cos lavry is just converters you need separate preamps and pcie cards it’s all pointless unless your really hardcore or you’ve got unlimited funds
The consumers dont care... 500 or 5000 converter. As long as the song is close enough to professional and makes people vibe.
Yeah... the Lavry just has the edge, but did I have to listen hard and re-listen to tell the difference. But I don't have a treated room, the top-end monitors / headphones .... either way, at 100' times the price, the Lavry clearly is not 100 times better sound. Factor in that 90+ % of people listen on ear-buds / phones / cars and Bluetooth speakers you seriously have to ask what you are paying for.... personally I would never be in the 10K region anyway.... got other things to spend that kind a money on. Great Vid though.
Wait if I am listening to this through my Scarlett then how is this comparison showing me anything lol
I love this channel! It's basically Alan Partridge Mastering 2023!
Hard for me to tell the difference when I'm listening on a focusrite😅
Universal audio soundcards for the win, 560 i paid for my apollo twin in 2017 and its still going strong. If your spending 100 though, id maybe get a 2nd hand tascam or presonus over the focusrite
presonus all day over focusrite
Amazing Video, from my listening, I the 10k interface sounded alot wider with clearer imaging, whereas the 100 interface had a more mono sound to it, and a noticeably more crushed high end with boomier mids, I would assume that there is more crosstalk in the cheap interface hence the lack of clean imaging, and for the crushed highs and boomy mids, this could be a result of the converters or the cheap components used in the circuitry
I got a focousright and honestly soo happy woth it fir a budget audio interface something for my headphones and mic while also practiceing makeing music works really well
I have to thank you for this. I always believed there was absolutely no reason to buy an audio interface more expensive than a few hundred quid, but I never had access to something that costs $10,000. So now I have the ultimate proof.
I have listened to your tracks on my M-Audio studio monitors and on my Shure mixing headphones.
I apologise, but I don't know what you are talking about when you say you lose some of the base or some of the top and all that.
I'd say they sound about 99% identical.
The differences are so small that I would bet my life that the most seasoned technician in the world would have failed a blind test between these two.
Which, by the way - kudos to Focusrite.
My advice to any indie musician, you can't go wrong with an audio interface around the £300-£700 price range. Focusrite, Steinberg, Ronald, PreSonus, they are all good and all kinda the same. It will get the job done, whether you use it to record your album, or to record your podcast.
Make sure you are on at least 24 bit, make sure it has some nice pre-amps built in, and that you get all the connectivity you require and you're golden.
I played the files through my pair of Adam S3Hs (stupidly priced monitors) and then through my JTR 9.2 Atmos setup (evenly more absurdly priced speakers) and the Focusrite ain't that far behind the Lavry. Yes, D/A converters most certainly do vary from entry level to high end but the subtleness would be wasted on the average listener.
The Lavry sounds more opened and the Focusrite sounds smooshed to the middle with its dynamics but does have that overly compressed commercial sound you hear from streaming. Not bad for a 100 USD interface imo.
I personally own the TASCAM 20x20 and the Arturia Audiofuse 8 Pre stacked in ADAT mode; and those two interfaces have never disappointed me.
I have the Solo I use for mobile and an RME Fireface and I've tried mixing productions on both in the studio. For me they sound pretty similar with just a stereo file playback until you start to mix , then the RME just comes alive and I felt I could get a lot more definition and depth in the mix from it. The Solo sounded a little flat this way too.
This could however be my own confirmation bias and wanting the RME to sound better though 😅
Be interesting to hear your files in the studio though.
Which Fireface? Thanks.
@@shellunit It's a UCX, I have a babyface too which is also a great sounding interface.
Flat sound is major problem of cheap OP's and lot's of harsh (up to 20% error) components after. Good OP's like 275G gives more punch and better impulse response. Which appeared like more alive, real sound. They are expensive compared to OP's commonly used, and i even not talking about hi-end precise OP's. But nowadays lot's of bad 275G components on the market from china.
I would like to hear the top end interface tested against an RME or some of the recent big focusrite 8 channels, the top spec ones
There are a handful of DA converter chips out there. They do range in price... but not to two orders of magnitude.
What makes the most difference is the quality of the build supporting the conversion chips. The quality of the power supply is critical. Cheap gear often has the cheapest solution in power. The Focusrite is USB powered. The 5v power coming USB bus, derived from a computer power supply is going to be garbage. The crystals for the clock aren't going to be consistent. You're going to find parts that aren't matched very well and have wider (worse) tolerances.
The real argument to be made is are you earning a living from this gear? As someone others are willing to pay money to, you have to beat your competition. More than likely the people paying for yhe service are planning on using the results commercially as well.
While a $100 interface is going to cut almost every corner, a $1000 one will more likely use much better designs and parts.
To me the difference is basically none, but there is definitely SOMEthing different. In my headphones, the Focusrite sounds like it's in front of me, and the Lavry sounds like it's coming from inside my head somehow. It's the last 0.5% that sets it apart (is that worth 10k? that's up to the buyer)
So the Lavry is better. Is it 100 times better though?
Cheaper mass produced audio interfaces are better for 99% of people, not just those starting out.
Good point
No I agree…like a Bugatti isn’t 100x better than a Ferrari…a lot of badge in the price
This was a nice vid. Thanks for pumping out quality content Streaky!
10k interface very musical and pleasing whilst focusrite a bit harsh.
casual listeners won't tell the difference tbh though :(
I wonder how the SSL 2 would do against the Lavry interface ?
🤷♂️
Of course, even with the files downloaded, the sound will be limited by my D-A converter as I listen back. Would I even be able to hear the difference without having the $10,000 unit here for playback?
Almost everybody listening with the speakers headphone... xD
Q: Which is better? A: Buy more stuff!
i don't know what's the purpose of this video but you should listen to a dac directly inside a room with good speakers the only thing you gonna hear in youtube is the dynamic range of your laptop dac or your phone dac the purpose of a good dac is how transparent they are the stereo image and especialy the dynamic range to judge your mixing in a precise way and expensive dacs are worth every single dimebecause of the circuitry inside the power supply the fpga the analog output circuitry the quality of the electronics everythings count the focusrite is garbage compared to the lavry
I doubt that most listeners would care enough to justify $9,900. But I can even hear a difference on my phone. Fortunately, economics has already made the decision for me.🤓
Yeah.... spend 10,000 on an interface so that people, who know zero about music, can listen to your musical creations through cell phone speakers, laptop speakers, or earbuds.
Probably the most encouraging advice i've heard when it's come to what works for you personally. No elitism. Great analogy in comparison with a chef. I'm inspired. Thanks Streaky
I miss the day when I listened to my recorded sound on Studer tape machine via big consoles (in my case they were Neve and Trident).
But every era has its advantage. Today I can have that without selling my house, in some tiny boxes inside my bedroom or bring them anywhere I want :)
i hear the difference! but thats not saying much. there are many interfaces that sound better than the scarlet! yet are in the same price range, of the scarlet.$10,000 is overprice for such a product in today's time.
I could seriously bathe in the sound of the Lavry...such depth of field...high resolution. Focusrite sounds quite flat compared.
Of course I can understand that this doesn't matter for everyone. For me it's just giving that extra I am always missing.
have a good play with what mate
With youtube compression, you can't really hear much of a difference here. Imho, most sound comparisons on YT are just kind of mental games.
What was that song playing in the background of your video 🔥🔥
I can hear the difference but it is not worth of extra 9900 $
Very interesting how subtle the differences are, compared to a not so subtle investment difference...
I remember when I got my first audio interface around 10-15 years ago, going from ASIO4ALL via my PCs headphone jack to connecting the same exact headphones to a headphone jack on an entry level audio interface was amazing! I remember thinking especially the difference in quality on the reverb was insane, I had no idea what I was missing before apparently 😅
My advice for anyone thinking about getting an audio interface is absolutely do it, the sooner the better, don't save up for anything fancy as a start, even these 100$ interfaces will make a huge difference on the sound in your computer.
BARELY any difference. They sound roughly the same. To the average ear and on some expensive JBL speakers, I'd say go with the 100 dollar one. Nobody will care, nobody will bat an eye. If the music sounds great, THAT will sell on it's own.
not a fair comparison. the 100 Dollar interface is overprized. (no I am not kidding, I really mean it)
I’m listening to this on Audeze LCD-Xs and then Senn HD650s, and yup I realise it’s RUclips sound quality (playing at highest quality) but I am SHOCKED…I thought the difference would indeed be 10,000 light years apart even on RUclips, but it’s not, it’s subtle….and here’s the point, the difference could easily be explained as subjective, not objectively better…
…here’s the other point..if you’re listening to it through Streakey’s speaker chain in his room the difference will I guess increase.
I produce using either apogee, avid or uad converters….not a single artist or listener can tell the difference between them or would care.
The song is “Always Been a Dreamer” by Staffan Carlén
listening on a macbook into MM-500's. downloaded the files. the main diff is the top end and the distortion. the focusrite is just harsher. its a meaningful difference. harder to spot in 10 second clips. its just the body can relax more with the lavry through the whole song. less distortion, less stress. mostly can hear it in the top end imo
I want a video from you on how to mix the sound like The Weeknd in the album After Hours .. It is a beautiful sound and it deserves to learn how it was produced in detail
this song is crazy lol
You not like?
Here’s the issue, you know which is which so not only are you looking for the Lavry to sound better, you know which it is! If someone did an A or B blind test, would you really be able to decipher which is the Lavry or a newer scarlet, not the extra old scarlet? Get the newer one and compare it to the Lavry!
Nice comparison. You can hear the separation in the sounds! It's kind of ironic that we use the term 'glue', but also want every sound to have its own separate space to live in.
The transient and mid range on the kick is completely different on the Focusrite, it 'sticks out' the Lavry is smoother sounding.. so, according to price, that's the way it 'actually' sounds? The focusrite is lying to your ears about the shape of the kick and low end... weird. That would make me try and fix things that aren't a problem and don't even exist?
With the focusrite I always felt like there is an aditional bus compressor pumping. It's much narrower and less dynamik, thus missing life compared to the lavry. But for a 9,9k difference, it's quiet good sounding.
It's same at least on the youtube, spotify etc. even on mackie hr series monitors. $100 is fine.
On my youtube the difference was quite huge between them
I'm very glad with my €3985,= ULN8 from Metric Halo. Comes with hi quality preamps , but I am not a professional mixer. It is being used in professional studio's though.
Keyboards and Drum machines signals will bypass the pre??? There should be an option for any sound to hit the pre’s
The difference in sound quality absolutely does not justify spending 10x the amount of money. With knowledge you can counter every perceived difference there is between those two examples. Without mixing there definitely is a difference in the "depth" of sound but 99.9% of people are not listening to music through a $5K+ sound system. Your LAVRY interface is for hipsters who still like to listen to vinyl on their grandfather's refurbished sound system.
This is very informative! I’m very experienced, and I can say this, on RUclips, and listening on iPhone, there is almost no difference, that means that it does not make sense unless u need this do you can hear very detailed thinks. But the reality is for 99.9% of people, nobody needs to spend 10k in DTo A. Much better to buy great microphone, great pre, eq and compressor
You know what they say about expensive wine tasting better? It does if you know it's expensive before you drink it. Anyone who can justify the £9900 price difference for that sound - a sound that could probably be EQ'd and FX'd into the Focusrite is, frankly, mad. More money than sense. Notice the test wasn't done blindfolded either but I digress a little... I think anyone with decent ears and a good pair of headphones can hear the slight difference but no one would ever guess the price gap between the two units.
Couldnt realy tell on YT but in Cubase with the downloaded files Lavry was much better, fatter low end and much better high much more air, to my ears and set up total hobbyiest
Definitely not a $99,900 difference, they are closer than I thought
Yep the heaphone pot on my Focusrite started crackling so I tried the SSL 2+ next and after only a year and just out of warranty the 48V phantom button went intermittent. I'm getting about a year out these mass produced boxes. The SSL wasn't cheap and I expected better but they are also mass produced in China now.