You're loading the cylinder off the scale. In the time it takes to fill, the scale might shut off. Then you can't use tare weight. Better to weigh the empty cylinder (BTW they're not all the same weight) and add 410 to the weight of the cylinder. Write the empty weight on the cylinder in magic marker so you'll know next time.
Thanks for the video. You can also buy dry ice (Frozen CO2) in pellet form. This will minimize the risks of handling extremely cold dry ice (-108.9 degrees Fahrenheit). Also, for safety reasons, particularly someone may not appreciate the risks associated with handling dry ice, you should have worn gloves and advised anyone watching to do the same. The math lesson on determining the safe amount in ounces/grams of dry ice to add was very important and instructive but I'm sure your wife could have shown you how to tare the postal scale. There are several RUclips videos available on how to economically refill SodaStream 60l canisters. Using the pelletized Dry Ice method, once precautions for handling the extremely cold (-109.8 degrees Fahrenheit) frozen CO2 are observed, this method has fewer risks than refilling SodaStream canisters using another larger pressurized CO2 cylinder.
I've looked at several of these videos stating to use dry ice to refill the SodaStream CO2 cartridges and I noticed that not one ever mentions to use food grade dry ice. Not all dry ice is the same and depending, are handled differently. Regular dry ice has not been processed and in sense not approved for consumption, hence when you look at where they are cut them in to slabs, they are cut with a wet rusty bandsaw. Food grade dry ice has extra steps and has been processed to be allowed to be consumed, like CO2 cannisters for soda machines and also for those wacky foods with the fog from dry ice is pouring out.
Good vid. If you put the dry ice in a plastic bag before wrapping it in a towel, It will be much easier to pour & you will waste less trapped in the terry threads. re 3:05 Most electronic scales have a "On", "Zero", or "Tare" calibration button, which you press after putting the entire empty container on the platform. Then whatever you add is measured directly. re 5:04 Although he is right that there is still a safety factor, the indicated 2# 4.5oz is greater than the calculated safe maximum of 2#4.2oz gross weight.
When refilling my tanks, I put a cup or jar on the scale (not the tank itself), as it is more stable that way, and the cold transferring through the scale tends to wreck havoc on the batteries of my digital scale. Using a measuring cup the first few times, you can just go by volume, not weight (if you smash the Dry Ice to powder). Again, I err on the side of caution and only fill to 80-85% of original weight.
There's few things more backwards than the imperial system. I actually just googled a conversion but should've looked here 1st. It's ironic in a way - imagine the strength of drug you'd need to convince someone aware of simplicity and convenience of Metric and consequences of a 2nd global unit standard that having your country use olde imperial was a good idea. I mean they would have to be completely fucking shitfaced to the point of barely knowing up from down. Perhaps entering politics has some sort of narcotic effect we're yet to fully understand which causes all the horrendous decisions...
Actually, from a more technical perspective, the correct funnel was used. The item being transferred is not liquid and in granules and chunks. By using a traditional funnel approach further narrows the opening and impedes the refill process. Or, the chunks of dry ice would need further pulverizing. So an 'outside' funnel may actually be more efficient and quicker. But I guess you got to post a witty comment and appear 'smart.'
@@makinggreatbread my apologies. your mum suggested that I type slow and thorough as she could see your frustrations 2 years later, trying to poke through ice chunks through the small orifice
@@waltrmitty Just like my 'mum' to infer communicating with you is like trying to 'poke through ice chunks through the small orifice'. No wonder you didn't catch on when suggested to 'type slow'. 😂😂😂
I don't know about ALL the soda stream cylinders, but my relief valve is has TWO PIECES. When I threaded this little bolt back in, the bottle wouldn't stop leaking. Until I found the little dimpled disk on my garage floor and guessed (I think) correctly which way to face the dimple. With this part installed, I got a good seal, and I'm good to go now. Other videos don't show removal of this, so I guess the disc stays in place. I say don't take it all the way off and you'll be fine, but you might have to wait a bit longer for all the remaining gas to come out before unthreading the main cap.
Tip for (sodastream) valves: there's a tiny round foil behind the pressure release that will likely fall out when you're taking the valve apart. You'll need to put it back in if to keep a seal. Don't be like me and mangle the valve trying to tighten it when it hisses.
This also protects you from overfilling the cylinder. It’s called a burst disc and ruptures if the pressure is too high. It’s meant to leak from there for safety
@@faytheweber8578 you've probably already figured it out since its been a few months, but the bulge on the foil is supposed to face outward away from the bottle and toward the screw. If you do it backwards, the foil will be able to withstand more force than its supposed to which could be dangerous.
You can cut a 16 oz 250 ml) water bottle in half and use the top half as a funnel. You can also just use the funnel as a scoop and hold it in a gloved hand at the bottle opening. There's a little spillage but not a big deal. It sublimates in a couple minutes.
Explanation on why refills with dry ice don't give you as much carbonation as refills from the shops... Most places in the world have some 'humidity' = water vapour in the air. When you expose dry ice to room air, the water vapour in the air will freeze, and form a layer of water ice on the surface of the dry ice crystals. The longer you expose the dry ice to air, the more your dry ice will become contaminated with water ice. When you weigh your CO2 out to fill the cannister, you are weighing both the CO2 ice and the water ice. Most people report that they don't get as much 'fizz' from dry ice filled cannisters (compared with the shop refills). That is because a significant proportion of the CO2 added is actually frozen water. With that knowledge in mind, I would feel happy to slightly over-fill the cannisters to try and get more fizz from the cannister. You can get an idea of how much ice was in the cannister by pouring it out on the next refill.
Cracking the seal on the original CO2 tanks is a bear, seeing as they have the Hulk and Iron Man assemble these. Subsequent changes are much easier - they need to be snug, but not Superman snug. I run a series of 3 tanks, pick up 2.5 kg of dry ice every couple of months. The whole process takes very little time, after you work through the bugs (chop stick is vital to poke through the funnel as the dry ice tends to molecularly combine as it sublimates). Super cheap and easy way to refill these little tanks. I always get more dry ice than needed as it is fun to have round for science experiments, or just to pop in old soup tins (with small holes in the bottom) to hang in the greenhouse and give a wee treat to your flowers, tomatoes, peppers, or whatever).
I'm glad I saw this comment. It told me that it could done. It was tough until I got the right tools. I used my oil filter wrench to hold the bottle and a wrench with a REALLY LONG pipe added as a lever.
Got dang if it took me 3 days to get one of these sum bitches cracked open. I used a strap wrench and a pipe wrench on top but i had to pull and pull till i wore my self out. But after 3 days of wrenching it the sum bitch finally cracked and i got me a nice container for dry ice gas now Hehe :)
Interesting how he had everything already loosened. I've been trying to get the fitting out for a week now. No matter how hard I hit it on the bench or the floor, it refused to budge. I even had it in my vise and put a piect of pipe onto the wrench handle. No go. It's not as easy as it looks. Sodastream has these things pretty well torqued up to discourage us from doing this.
@@Elemolcom Finally got it off. I put the tank into my vice grips with a piece of rubber to protect it and then my adjustable wrench on the valve. All I had and it finally budged. When I got it apart, the threads of the valve were anything but clean. Apparently when Sodastream refills them, they're not exactly picture of cleanliness. Cleaned everything up and refilled with CO2 pellets today. Forget about the rice pellets unless you want to buy a 500 pound minimum. But the larger pellets which look like cheese doodles go in with no problem.
Glad you got it open. I bought mine new, so the threads were brand new. I couldn't find pellets near by so just bought a 1lb block and crushed it. Used 140 grams for the refill, and played with the rest.
I am a little old lady so I doused mine with heavy duty WD-40 and waited an hour and sprayed it again and after half hour put the cylinder in a rubber glove so it wouldn't slip when I put it in the vice. Used my 15/16 wrench and wacked it with a hammer and it came loose with first wack. If it had not come loose, I was going to take it to the local plumber and see if he had any magic tools to get it loose.
@@faytheweber8578 I hope after you got it open that you cleaned it to get rid of any residual WD-40. I just refilled my 2 cylinders yesterday. Bed,Bath and Beyond was charging $15 to exchange each cylinder. I did 2 of them yesterday for $4. I use the dry ice pellets which are about the size of cheese doodles. They fit in the neck very easily. Altogether, roughly 10 minutes to do both cylinders. Glad you got it open. Now you can enjoy seltzer to your heart's content
I'm glad I'm not the ONLY one on the planet that likes carbonated water....people in my life tell me I'm a freak for liking carbonated water without all the syrups and additives.. I tell them I'm normal.. THEY'RE the freaks...:)
I just did mine but if you pull out the safety relief valve all the way their is a tiny metallic disc that can fly out. if you lose it the can won't seal. This seal looks temporary so I don't think it is safe to refill these too many times without replacing that seal.
Nice. But I used grams. And you can use a paper bag When crushing, To not drink the flint. I just crushed it in the plastic As it is pretty sturdy and was in perfect condition after. If you are fast you don't need gloves.
IN this viseo the pressure relief valve has been compromised because the actual valve that goes in before the screw is not there 2 never crush dry ice with a cloth because the fiber from the cloth will be in the tank when the dry ice sublimate
was thinking this should work after picking up a new one for 6 dollars at the thriftstore ...tank was new and only last me 3 days screw paying 16 for a new tank
Where are you buying your dry ice? I can't find small quantities and buying in bulk is silly as you can not use it and is just a waste of money (The opposite of the goal).
I wonder if the small amount of normal air in the bottle before resealing makes any difference. It's some oxygen and nitrogen that will also get compressed.
Too bad the dry ice can't be bought as 1/2 inch round half the height of the tank to drop a few in quickly that add up to 14 oz and put the valve back on . I expected that the aluminium to contract from the cold while the brass valve would then be a bit bigger to score the threads . Did you put the Valve in the freezer to contract as well, or did the Valve have to be snugged down once the tank reached room temperature ?
Thank you so much for the video. I did this for the first time and I hear a little hiss maybe. Is that normal? Will it go away after it starts to pressurize?
I've got a 12" crescent wrench and a strap wrench and I cannot get that top off the canister. First I removed the valve so all the remaining CO2 is out. I've taken the canister outside and banged the end of the wrench against the ground several times as I'm twisting, trying to loosen that nut, using a strap wrench in my other hand to firmly hold the canister. Nothing. I don't know what else to try. I'm not strong (I'm female) but this should work, right? What else can I do to get that top off? Has Sodastream somehow changed the design to make that nut even tighter?
You could get a man for a boyfriend and ask him to do it? Or go to a feminist and have her do it, since they can, and want to, do everything a man can.
I'm strong and go to the gym a lot and it took me 3 days to crack the top off. I though it was welded on at first but it finally cracked open after a ton of wrenching. try to use the ground as leverage and get your body weight into it
J. Cordoba As long as you know how many grams of carbon dioxide were originally in the paintball bottle. You would also need to make sure that there's no glue on the threads that's sealing the canister. There would need to be a built in o-ring or gasket to stop pressure leakage so you don't have problems resealing the canister.
Jesse Wright it's just safer and easier to put on the pressure relief valve after you screw on the main valve. You can have pressure build up while you're screwing it on and/or the pressure relief valve is a lot smaller projectile and wouldn't shoot out with as many ftlbs of energy as the main valve.
John Kiser “most food grade”??? So not all dry ice is food grade? Seems to me to be a great way for an unscrupulous vendor to make money and not care about people’s health.
@@DANDLINC If you want, that's up to you. When you put dry ice in the ninja, don't pack it all the way to the top. Fill little under half and then blend.
Put the wrench on it then smack the end of the wrench on a block of scrap wood. I smacked it a bunch on a 1'' section of 4x4 I had lying around and it did the trick. Additional tip - put down a paper towel folded into quarters between the scale and the bottle. You don't want the frozen spot potentially screwing up your scale, especially if it's a cheapo one like mine.
I use a strap wrench that works great for this purpose. They are available at most hardware stores & are fairly inexpensive. You can secure the tank with the strap wrench and remove the valve with either a crescent wrench or a 15/16" wrench.
I'm confused. Have you frozen the dry ice beforehand? For how long? Do you store the rest of the dry ice in the freezer as well or do you have to let it go back to room temp til the next time you want to use and freeze it? Or do you not have to freeze it at all?
Shit man, I’ve had bottles laying around for years. I watched this and a few other vids explaining the method, tried undoing the old bottles… buckleys.
Depending on the power save mode for your scale if there is long enough inactivity on the scale like the time between crushing the dry ice and placing it in the funnel it can zero out your tare/ turn off. My scale in particular turns off fairly quickly. If you do the math even if the scale turns off you can keep adding without losing your place. Either method is correct. If everything goes according to plan if you use the tare function it is faster. However, adding the weights is more foolproof.
So why not just put some liquid in a empty 2 liter soda bottle with water and flavor and then just put a small much smaller amount of dry ice in a blender or or coffee grinder and quickly put the powder in the bottle and replace the top? You don't even need a sodastream. Collect a lot of empty 2 liter bottles and make 60 liters from 1 lb of dry ice?
You need to remove this video. People it no longer works. The manufacturer has obviously done something to stop you from doing this. I calmly tried three air cartridges. Everyone had a leak in the pressure relief valve.
Read earlier comments about the tiny metal/foil disc that is held in by the small pressure relief bolt. That needs to be reinstalled before the bolt is put back in, otherwise it won't seal properly. The disc can pop out and easily get lost. New discs can be purchased from Amazon.
For the love of God do don’t do this, I have been filling CO2 for 20 years. Do not do this. Most likely the safety will blow out before you do, but these are filled with solid CO2 not dry ice. Very dangerous!
What do you mean solid CO2? This method works, dry ice is frozen CO2, it has no extra volume when it off gases and so it is absolutely safe if done correctly, if not the tank is rated for more pressure then the inner volume can actually hold, so no way to blow it up.
nice video but why didn't you just tare the scale?
Came to the comments for this
You're loading the cylinder off the scale. In the time it takes to fill, the scale might shut off. Then you can't use tare weight. Better to weigh the empty cylinder (BTW they're not all the same weight) and add 410 to the weight of the cylinder. Write the empty weight on the cylinder in magic marker so you'll know next time.
My lame scale would time out, and it doesn't save the tare weight.
Exactly, that's what I was asking from the start.
@@JC-XL Did you look up and see the good reason to do as he did or just write, hit enter and go? Just curious.
Thanks for the video. You can also buy dry ice (Frozen CO2) in pellet form. This will minimize the risks of handling extremely cold dry ice (-108.9 degrees Fahrenheit). Also, for safety reasons, particularly someone may not appreciate the risks associated with handling dry ice, you should have worn gloves and advised anyone watching to do the same. The math lesson on determining the safe amount in ounces/grams of dry ice to add was very important and instructive but I'm sure your wife could have shown you how to tare the postal scale.
There are several RUclips videos available on how to economically refill SodaStream 60l canisters. Using the pelletized Dry Ice method, once precautions for handling the extremely cold (-109.8 degrees Fahrenheit) frozen CO2 are observed, this method has fewer risks than refilling SodaStream canisters using another larger pressurized CO2 cylinder.
I've looked at several of these videos stating to use dry ice to refill the SodaStream CO2 cartridges and I noticed that not one ever mentions to use food grade dry ice. Not all dry ice is the same and depending, are handled differently. Regular dry ice has not been processed and in sense not approved for consumption, hence when you look at where they are cut them in to slabs, they are cut with a wet rusty bandsaw. Food grade dry ice has extra steps and has been processed to be allowed to be consumed, like CO2 cannisters for soda machines and also for those wacky foods with the fog from dry ice is pouring out.
Good vid.
If you put the dry ice in a plastic bag before wrapping it in a towel, It will be much easier to pour & you will waste less trapped in the terry threads.
re 3:05 Most electronic scales have a "On", "Zero", or "Tare" calibration button, which you press after putting the entire empty container on the platform. Then whatever you add is measured directly.
re 5:04 Although he is right that there is still a safety factor, the indicated 2# 4.5oz is greater than the calculated safe maximum of 2#4.2oz gross weight.
When refilling my tanks, I put a cup or jar on the scale (not the tank itself), as it is more stable that way, and the cold transferring through the scale tends to wreck havoc on the batteries of my digital scale. Using a measuring cup the first few times, you can just go by volume, not weight (if you smash the Dry Ice to powder). Again, I err on the side of caution and only fill to 80-85% of original weight.
If I wasn't a retired weed dealer from my youth, I never would have learned that there's 28g in an oz.
And they said drugs were bad. Education.
There's few things more backwards than the imperial system. I actually just googled a conversion but should've looked here 1st.
It's ironic in a way - imagine the strength of drug you'd need to convince someone aware of simplicity and convenience of Metric and consequences of a 2nd global unit standard that having your country use olde imperial was a good idea. I mean they would have to be completely fucking shitfaced to the point of barely knowing up from down. Perhaps entering politics has some sort of narcotic effect we're yet to fully understand which causes all the horrendous decisions...
With the money you saved you can buy the correct funnel.
savage
Actually, from a more technical perspective, the correct funnel was used. The item being transferred is not liquid and in granules and chunks. By using a traditional funnel approach further narrows the opening and impedes the refill process. Or, the chunks of dry ice would need further pulverizing. So an 'outside' funnel may actually be more efficient and quicker. But I guess you got to post a witty comment and appear 'smart.'
@@waltrmitty And I guess you could not resist writing a whole paragraph to show how ridiculous you sound in hyper-analyzing a funnel.
@@makinggreatbread my apologies. your mum suggested that I type slow and thorough as she could see your frustrations 2 years later, trying to poke through ice chunks through the small orifice
@@waltrmitty Just like my 'mum' to infer communicating with you is like trying to 'poke through ice chunks through the small orifice'. No wonder you didn't catch on when suggested to 'type slow'. 😂😂😂
I don't know about ALL the soda stream cylinders, but my relief valve is has TWO PIECES. When I threaded this little bolt back in, the bottle wouldn't stop leaking. Until I found the little dimpled disk on my garage floor and guessed (I think) correctly which way to face the dimple. With this part installed, I got a good seal, and I'm good to go now. Other videos don't show removal of this, so I guess the disc stays in place. I say don't take it all the way off and you'll be fine, but you might have to wait a bit longer for all the remaining gas to come out before unthreading the main cap.
I was expecting you to say spring ... dimpled disk guess that is where the cost is
Tip for (sodastream) valves: there's a tiny round foil behind the pressure release that will likely fall out when you're taking the valve apart. You'll need to put it back in if to keep a seal. Don't be like me and mangle the valve trying to tighten it when it hisses.
Extremely important. Ruined my last one tightening to stop gas release and also did the same to my most recent one until I read this.
This also protects you from overfilling the cylinder. It’s called a burst disc and ruptures if the pressure is too high. It’s meant to leak from there for safety
does the bulge part of the foil go toward the bottle or toward the screw?
@@faytheweber8578 you've probably already figured it out since its been a few months, but the bulge on the foil is supposed to face outward away from the bottle and toward the screw. If you do it backwards, the foil will be able to withstand more force than its supposed to which could be dangerous.
Thanks mark your a life saver
I can imagine the nice feeling of the remaining towel fibers residues you get in your mouth!
I had the same thought - would have used something else I think - or bought the ice as pellets
You can cut a 16 oz 250 ml) water bottle in half and use the top half as a funnel. You can also just use the funnel as a scoop and hold it in a gloved hand at the bottle opening. There's a little spillage but not a big deal. It sublimates in a couple minutes.
Explanation on why refills with dry ice don't give you as much carbonation as refills from the shops...
Most places in the world have some 'humidity' = water vapour in the air. When you expose dry ice to room air, the water vapour in the air will freeze, and form a layer of water ice on the surface of the dry ice crystals. The longer you expose the dry ice to air, the more your dry ice will become contaminated with water ice. When you weigh your CO2 out to fill the cannister, you are weighing both the CO2 ice and the water ice.
Most people report that they don't get as much 'fizz' from dry ice filled cannisters (compared with the shop refills). That is because a significant proportion of the CO2 added is actually frozen water. With that knowledge in mind, I would feel happy to slightly over-fill the cannisters to try and get more fizz from the cannister.
You can get an idea of how much ice was in the cannister by pouring it out on the next refill.
Much easier using grams like the rest of the world does!
Cracking the seal on the original CO2 tanks is a bear, seeing as they have the Hulk and Iron Man assemble these. Subsequent changes are much easier - they need to be snug, but not Superman snug. I run a series of 3 tanks, pick up 2.5 kg of dry ice every couple of months. The whole process takes very little time, after you work through the bugs (chop stick is vital to poke through the funnel as the dry ice tends to molecularly combine as it sublimates). Super cheap and easy way to refill these little tanks. I always get more dry ice than needed as it is fun to have round for science experiments, or just to pop in old soup tins (with small holes in the bottom) to hang in the greenhouse and give a wee treat to your flowers, tomatoes, peppers, or whatever).
I'm glad I saw this comment. It told me that it could done. It was tough until I got the right tools. I used my oil filter wrench to hold the bottle and a wrench with a REALLY LONG pipe added as a lever.
@@ryangrady6894 I broke my oil filter remover.
Got dang if it took me 3 days to get one of these sum bitches cracked open. I used a strap wrench and a pipe wrench on top but i had to pull and pull till i wore my self out. But after 3 days of wrenching it the sum bitch finally cracked and i got me a nice container for dry ice gas now Hehe :)
Interesting how he had everything already loosened. I've been trying to get the fitting out for a week now. No matter how hard I hit it on the bench or the floor, it refused to budge. I even had it in my vise and put a piect of pipe onto the wrench handle. No go. It's not as easy as it looks. Sodastream has these things pretty well torqued up to discourage us from doing this.
I had to hit it about 3 times pretty hard against the curb on the street.
@@Elemolcom Finally got it off. I put the tank into my vice grips with a piece of rubber to protect it and then my adjustable wrench on the valve. All I had and it finally budged. When I got it apart, the threads of the valve were anything but clean. Apparently when Sodastream refills them, they're not exactly picture of cleanliness. Cleaned everything up and refilled with CO2 pellets today. Forget about the rice pellets unless you want to buy a 500 pound minimum. But the larger pellets which look like cheese doodles go in with no problem.
Glad you got it open. I bought mine new, so the threads were brand new. I couldn't find pellets near by so just bought a 1lb block and crushed it. Used 140 grams for the refill, and played with the rest.
I am a little old lady so I doused mine with heavy duty WD-40 and waited an hour and sprayed it again and after half hour put the cylinder in a rubber glove so it wouldn't slip when I put it in the vice. Used my 15/16 wrench and wacked it with a hammer and it came loose with first wack. If it had not come loose, I was going to take it to the local plumber and see if he had any magic tools to get it loose.
@@faytheweber8578 I hope after you got it open that you cleaned it to get rid of any residual WD-40. I just refilled my 2 cylinders yesterday. Bed,Bath and Beyond was charging $15 to exchange each cylinder. I did 2 of them yesterday for $4. I use the dry ice pellets which are about the size of cheese doodles. They fit in the neck very easily. Altogether, roughly 10 minutes to do both cylinders. Glad you got it open. Now you can enjoy seltzer to your heart's content
I'm glad I'm not the ONLY one on the planet that likes carbonated water....people in my life tell me I'm a freak for liking carbonated water without all the syrups and additives.. I tell them I'm normal.. THEY'RE the freaks...:)
you could have just put the tank on the scale before turning it on, thatl zero it out
Does this work for the Pink Cylinders?
Good video, thanks! Two tips for newbs: tare your scale and wear gloves.
I just did mine but if you pull out the safety relief valve all the way their is a tiny metallic disc that can fly out. if you lose it the can won't seal. This seal looks temporary so I don't think it is safe to refill these too many times without replacing that seal.
Reinsert the disc with the “mound” facing outward. It will work.
I had difficulty removing some of the brass valves. I hope shrinking them a little with dry ice will work.
Nice. But I used grams.
And you can use a paper bag
When crushing,
To not drink the flint.
I just crushed it in the plastic
As it is pretty sturdy and was in perfect condition after.
If you are fast you don't need gloves.
IN this viseo the pressure relief valve has been compromised because the actual valve that goes in before the screw is not there 2 never crush dry ice with a cloth because the fiber from the cloth will be in the tank when the dry ice sublimate
Well, what are your suggestions?
Derek Bradford Uh no it's not. But I do have to agree with you on the second part of the comment. He probably should have just bought co2 pellets.
is there a reason that you didn't Tare the scale to reset it to 0?
was thinking this should work after picking up a new one for 6 dollars at the thriftstore ...tank was new and only last me 3 days screw paying 16 for a new tank
Co2 earth friendly sticker is the best
Where are you buying your dry ice? I can't find small quantities and buying in bulk is silly as you can not use it and is just a waste of money (The opposite of the goal).
Did you ever find this answer? I'm just starting out with my Sodastream and have no idea where to buy dry ice?
I wonder if the small amount of normal air in the bottle before resealing makes any difference. It's some oxygen and nitrogen that will also get compressed.
It will be displaced by the heavier Co2, so no problem :)
This is brilliant! I am looking for a cheap DIY CO2 system for my Freshwater planted fish tank.
@Mos Kito no, the heater malfunctioned and I lost them all. Now I always have a heater controller set up.
Why not just tare the scale?
i wonder if you can do the same trick with those dummy 12g co2 cartridges on amazon
Can this method be used for a larger CO2 bottle such as 10lb? (Assuming it’s still a good saving on costs)
Does it have to be food grade dry ice ?
Just a guess but I think dry ice is actually 100% CO2 so unlike with compressed gas bottles there is no way for contaminates to exist in the dry ice.
Measure about 1/2 cup crushed, don't have to be exact.
Good Tip. Thanks for watching!
Awesome! Saved me heaps and very easy to do. Cost me Au $3 to refill mine. Cheers mate! :-D
Too bad the dry ice can't be bought as 1/2 inch round half the height of the tank to drop a few in quickly that add up to 14 oz and put the valve back on . I expected that the aluminium to contract from the cold while the brass valve would then be a bit bigger to score the threads .
Did you put the Valve in the freezer to contract as well, or did the Valve have to be snugged down once the tank reached room temperature ?
Dude, just hit the gate button, it zeros it out
Thank you so much for the video. I did this for the first time and I hear a little hiss maybe. Is that normal? Will it go away after it starts to pressurize?
you probably ruptured the burst disc and need to buy a new one
happened to me
@@JonVayn do you mean buy a new cartridge or can you buy the burst discs?
Faythe Weber you can buy a new burst disc on Amazon, but it’s easier to just take it to Target to be refilled. This method can be dangerous.
Awesome thanks. I have to go find some dry ice now!
HELLO DID THE REFILL WORKED FOR YOU PLEASE LET ME KNOW
using a crescent wrench but it will not turn what to do ??
I've got a 12" crescent wrench and a strap wrench and I cannot get that top off the canister. First I removed the valve so all the remaining CO2 is out. I've taken the canister outside and banged the end of the wrench against the ground several times as I'm twisting, trying to loosen that nut, using a strap wrench in my other hand to firmly hold the canister. Nothing. I don't know what else to try. I'm not strong (I'm female) but this should work, right? What else can I do to get that top off? Has Sodastream somehow changed the design to make that nut even tighter?
@@KayRay1966 Thanks. I decided to go the route of an external (5lb) tank and connection hose instead of the dry ice refilling method.
You could get a man for a boyfriend and ask him to do it? Or go to a feminist and have her do it, since they can, and want to, do everything a man can.
@@mrgoggles1963 Everything except register for the draft! 🤔
I'm strong and go to the gym a lot and it took me 3 days to crack the top off. I though it was welded on at first but it finally cracked open after a ton of wrenching. try to use the ground as leverage and get your body weight into it
Works fricken AWSOME HUGE THUMBS UP
Great idea! Simple, easy, effective, cheap.
Great video. If you hit tare on the scale you don't have to do the math.
why didnt you just tare the scale?
Good question. This postal scale didn't have a tare.
@@DANDLINC you must be the funniest guy at parties
How long do you have to wait for the dry ice to settle in the tank before being able to install it on the sodastream and use it?
ear1303 until there is zero frost and it feels room temp.
As long as the tank is fully defrosted which takes around 1 hr
Excellent tutorial, thanks!
Can you do this for co2 paintball bottle
J. Cordoba As long as you know how many grams of carbon dioxide were originally in the paintball bottle. You would also need to make sure that there's no glue on the threads that's sealing the canister. There would need to be a built in o-ring or gasket to stop pressure leakage so you don't have problems resealing the canister.
Why take out the external pressure relief bolt if the whole end of the bottle is removed for filling?
Jesse Wright it's just safer and easier to put on the pressure relief valve after you screw on the main valve. You can have pressure build up while you're screwing it on and/or the pressure relief valve is a lot smaller projectile and wouldn't shoot out with as many ftlbs of energy as the main valve.
...to... relieve... ...the... pressure...????
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Are you buying food grade Dry Ice?
Most dry ice is food grade because they seldom have two different grades of it as that'd be nonsensical to the producers
John Kiser “most food grade”??? So not all dry ice is food grade? Seems to me to be a great way for an unscrupulous vendor to make money and not care about people’s health.
@@johnkiser1410 wrong depends on the source.
@@privatebubba8876 Actually no it doesn't unless it is stored wrong
tare the scale! :)
You sir are Lt. Cmdr. Montgomery ‘Scotty’ Scott
Blushworthy Lad! (and thank you)
I put the dry ice in my ninja blender.
Really!? How's that working? Thanks for watching.
@@DANDLINC Blends it up fine as snow. Works much better than pounding it out.
@@Turner2503 Sounds like a great idea. Maybe a new video!?
@@DANDLINC If you want, that's up to you. When you put dry ice in the ninja, don't pack it all the way to the top. Fill little under half and then blend.
Thank you!
I can't get the head off of the bottle, I'm 6'5" and 250lbs but it won't budge! Any ideas?
Put it in a vise.
Use a torch😉
Put the wrench on it then smack the end of the wrench on a block of scrap wood. I smacked it a bunch on a 1'' section of 4x4 I had lying around and it did the trick. Additional tip - put down a paper towel folded into quarters between the scale and the bottle. You don't want the frozen spot potentially screwing up your scale, especially if it's a cheapo one like mine.
I use a strap wrench that works great for this purpose. They are available at most hardware stores & are fairly inexpensive. You can secure the tank with the strap wrench and remove the valve with either a crescent wrench or a 15/16" wrench.
Make sure the tank is entirely empty
I'm confused. Have you frozen the dry ice beforehand? For how long? Do you store the rest of the dry ice in the freezer as well or do you have to let it go back to room temp til the next time you want to use and freeze it? Or do you not have to freeze it at all?
Shit man, I’ve had bottles laying around for years. I watched this and a few other vids explaining the method, tried undoing the old bottles… buckleys.
Instead of adding up numbers...just rezero the scale 🙄
Very helpful.. thanks
So what about safety concerns -- is it OK to handle a substance with a temperature of -109° F with bare hands?
Why do the math when you can just tare the scale
Depending on the power save mode for your scale if there is long enough inactivity on the scale like the time between crushing the dry ice and placing it in the funnel it can zero out your tare/ turn off.
My scale in particular turns off fairly quickly.
If you do the math even if the scale turns off you can keep adding without losing your place.
Either method is correct. If everything goes according to plan if you use the tare function it is faster. However, adding the weights is more foolproof.
So why not just put some liquid in a empty 2 liter soda bottle with water and flavor and then just put a small much smaller amount of dry ice in a blender or or coffee grinder and quickly put the powder in the bottle and replace the top? You don't even need a sodastream. Collect a lot of empty 2 liter bottles and make 60 liters from 1 lb of dry ice?
Use gloves, set scale tare!
Yep, and yep. Thanks.
Wowwww
You need to remove this video. People it no longer works. The manufacturer has obviously done something to stop you from doing this. I calmly tried three air cartridges. Everyone had a leak in the pressure relief valve.
Read earlier comments about the tiny metal/foil disc that is held in by the small pressure relief bolt. That needs to be reinstalled before the bolt is put back in, otherwise it won't seal properly. The disc can pop out and easily get lost. New discs can be purchased from Amazon.
just hit the TARE button, dummy!
Pretty cool though -
very dangerous to remove top valve that is factory installed.
For the love of God do don’t do this, I have been filling CO2 for 20 years. Do not do this. Most likely the safety will blow out before you do, but these are filled with solid CO2 not dry ice. Very dangerous!
What do you mean solid CO2?
This method works, dry ice is frozen CO2, it has no extra volume when it off gases and so it is absolutely safe if done correctly, if not the tank is rated for more pressure then the inner volume can actually hold, so no way to blow it up.
BANG!
There is no liquid co2 so you wont have a lot of co2