Battle of Kulikovo, 1380 AD ⚔️ Mongol tide turns ⚔️ Russia rises

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  • @HistoryMarche
    @HistoryMarche  3 года назад +65

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    ⚔️ Battle of Kulikovo, fought near the Don River in 1380, was the first victory for Russian forces over the Mongol Golden Horde since the subjugation by Batu Khan. It demonstrated the developing independence of the Russian lands from Mongol rule (which had been imposed in 1240) and was a giant step for the Duchy of Moscow in its rise to leadership of the Russian people.

    • @rishand9656
      @rishand9656 3 года назад +3

      First

    • @Tirnon
      @Tirnon 3 года назад +2

      Great work as usual but I have to write that at that time there was no RUSSIANS, only MUSCOVITES. Russia was invented by in 1547 ...

    • @lalruatdikavarte7943
      @lalruatdikavarte7943 3 года назад

      Nice video and very informative and very entertaining and very satisfaction more videos.

    • @RodolfoGaming
      @RodolfoGaming 3 года назад +3

      Another brilliant battle that i kind of saw coming this time after the kalka river surprise. The first time Russia started asserting its presence and independence from the Mongols although little changed in the imediate aftermath

    • @denni5514
      @denni5514 3 года назад

      Nice fight. Excellent voice acting. Super!

  • @АлександрНевельский-л2з

    Prince Dmitry wasn't called 'Donskoy' before this battle. He gains this nickname because Kulikovo field is on the bank of the Don river.

  • @tonyhawk94
    @tonyhawk94 3 года назад +793

    Imagine being an Italian soldier fighting in Russia for a Mongol warlord lol.

    • @wolfgangkranek376
      @wolfgangkranek376 3 года назад +166

      The question though is, how much did they even view themselves as Italian?
      At that time in history the identity belonging to a certain city state (like Genoa, Florence, Pisa or Venice) was more important.
      And also mercenaries were never picky.

    • @archivist5324
      @archivist5324 3 года назад +39

      There was no Italian. There was no infantry at all.

    • @wolfgangkranek376
      @wolfgangkranek376 3 года назад +9

      @@archivist5324 Yes, sources are always helpfull.

    • @JoeSkylynx
      @JoeSkylynx 3 года назад +11

      @@C0wb0yBebop money talks!

    • @manichaean1888
      @manichaean1888 3 года назад +47

      It's pretty much like being an Italian soldier fighting for the German furer in the Battle of Stalingrad.

  • @HistoricalWeapons
    @HistoricalWeapons 3 года назад +249

    Glad you are doing Mongolian/Russian history thank you

    • @nightrunner3701
      @nightrunner3701 3 года назад +7

      Pretty sure this has Russian focus...

    • @phawang37
      @phawang37 3 года назад +3

      more mongol history plz

    • @teemuvesala9575
      @teemuvesala9575 3 года назад +14

      @@nightrunner3701 And that's not a bad thing. Most RUclipsrs are focused on Mongols.

    • @AeneasGemini
      @AeneasGemini 3 года назад +13

      @@phawang37 There are a million channels talking about Mongol History, it's done to death.
      On the other hand Eastern Europe, Africa and South America have rich histories that almost nobody talks about (unless that history also involves Americans or Western Europeans).

    • @taras2567
      @taras2567 3 года назад +3

      It is fake history, Rus (Ruth) was part of another country that time THE DUCHY OF LITHUANIA, RUTHENIA AND SAMOGITIA. Moscow took this name only in 18cenntury

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 3 года назад +166

    Any battle involving the Mongols is epic. Regardless of whether they win or lose it. I enjoy hearing about it. Great video. I enjoyed it.

    • @tjahajaharto8094
      @tjahajaharto8094 3 года назад +5

      i agree with you

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 3 года назад +1

      @@tjahajaharto8094---Thanks for replying.

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 3 года назад

      @@scourgeofgodattila3827---I think I might have heard something about that. Thanks for replying.

    • @sarthakjain3493
      @sarthakjain3493 3 года назад +3

      And massacre of women and children too

    • @Orgil.
      @Orgil. 2 года назад +2

      @@sarthakjain3493 every empire did that too

  • @Archer89201
    @Archer89201 3 года назад +270

    When you have outscouted the Mongols... You did good

    • @Alvaro89Rus
      @Alvaro89Rus 3 года назад +13

      they were... harsh teachers

    • @Minsc1989
      @Minsc1989 3 года назад +6

      Is that an AoE2 joke? Please tell me it is :D

    • @TheMrcassina
      @TheMrcassina 3 года назад +4

      That's what happens when you get fat, mongols weren't as hungry as they used to be

    • @vadimivanov8592
      @vadimivanov8592 3 года назад +1

      You just have to find out if there was a fight?

  • @davidm3118
    @davidm3118 3 года назад +65

    In 1980 the USSR went out of its way to commemorate the Battle of Kulikovo, with exhibitions, art competitions and a big budget movie called (I think) "On the Sacred Field of Kulikovo". I saw the movie once, but it seems to have disappeared. It recounted the epic battle, and the final scene was striking for a movie made under communism. It showed three Russian Knights (I think one was Donskoi) at the head of an army gazing eastwards....and then the scene segued into the present day, with the same characters wearing Soviet Tankers uniforms standing on top of an armoured vehicle before squadrons of Soviet tanks...and a narrator solemnly intoning "The Russian soldier, then as now...eternal guardian of civilisation..."

    • @Arksumiel
      @Arksumiel 3 года назад

      Yes, a lot of propaganda is filmed in Russia, not a day without lies.

    • @harrybalanovsky2169
      @harrybalanovsky2169 3 года назад +16

      Why lies? Propoganda can contain lie or not. It's a tool that have to influence people's opinion and neutral by its nature. West use it constantly to sell it's way of life, but define propoganda as something bad and something that it does not use. That's a lie btw...

    • @AlexCatable
      @AlexCatable 3 года назад +8

      @@harrybalanovsky2169 because he is triggered. Dont mind ppl like this.

    • @Arksumiel
      @Arksumiel 3 года назад +1

      @@harrybalanovsky2169 You write as an uneducated person or as a Russian ...

    • @harrybalanovsky2169
      @harrybalanovsky2169 3 года назад

      @@Arksumiel lucky guess ))) i just can't use google translate same time.

  • @ПрепушениРакун
    @ПрепушениРакун 2 года назад +24

    The duel in a start of a battle wasn't actually between two champions. But between mongol champion and Russian Orthodox monk, one of the two Saint Sergei of Radonezh sent into battle, same Saint propheted to Dmitrii: „Go and don't feat, God will help you”

    • @mu0FFpu0FF
      @mu0FFpu0FF 3 месяца назад +5

      His name was Peresvet. He fought with no armor because he knew Chelubey's (Mongol champion) had a longer spear. He let the enemies spear pierce him all the way through, and he struck Chebuley with his shorter spear and dismounted him.

  • @deutscherrapblog7014
    @deutscherrapblog7014 3 года назад +73

    a crushing defeat for mamai, but atleast he had perfectly smooth balls with Manscaped!

  • @nApucco
    @nApucco 3 года назад +250

    I came for the Mongols...
    ...I left with smooth balls.

  • @chaz000006
    @chaz000006 3 года назад +167

    Mamai had to run back home to Mama.

    • @NoXeB1995
      @NoXeB1995 3 года назад +8

      hahaaha

    • @andrewnajdenov9917
      @andrewnajdenov9917 3 года назад +2

      ​@Timothy Donaldson 'Actually he did in someway because the yoke was weakened afterwards' - actually Dmitry fought not against, but for Horde. He did not make horde reign weaker but he prolongates it for century.
      'several russian princes rose to the occasion eventually ending Mongol rule' - there were not Russian but Lithuanian
      ' Donskoi proved the golden horde could be beaten ' - Mamai was a rebel in Horde. Not horde itself. Two years late khan army burned Moscow and 'Donskoi proved' that he can flee to Kostroma to avoid fighting against khan.

    • @user-nd9dy4bj6y
      @user-nd9dy4bj6y 3 месяца назад

      No😂​@@andrewnajdenov9917

  • @mnk9073
    @mnk9073 3 года назад +105

    Wait what, the Mongols had mercenaries from Genua fighting the Russians on the Don? That caught me off guard.

    • @royegabrieli5858
      @royegabrieli5858 3 года назад +75

      Genoa had colonies in Crimea stolen from the Byzantine empire after the 4th crusade. When the Mongols came they paid them tribute and gave them maps of Europe, effectively aiding them in their invasion of the continent.

    • @deanfirnatine7814
      @deanfirnatine7814 3 года назад +14

      The Mongols needed experienced infantry, that was not their shtick

    • @ТиберийКински
      @ТиберийКински 3 года назад +4

      It's just fantasy

    • @vadimpm1290
      @vadimpm1290 3 года назад +21

      @@ТиберийКински your education is a fantasy

    • @ТиберийКински
      @ТиберийКински 3 года назад +1

      @@vadimpm1290 no need to spread Gumilev's nonsense

  • @slimpickens32
    @slimpickens32 3 года назад +143

    From what I hear, it was a pretty close shave.

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  3 года назад +15

      haha

    • @himanjukularatne4363
      @himanjukularatne4363 3 года назад +16

      The “man scaped” with his life ....lol

    • @slimpickens32
      @slimpickens32 3 года назад +3

      @@HistoryMarche In all seriousness, thank you for a great video!

    • @viktorkorol477
      @viktorkorol477 3 года назад +5

      Battle of Kulikovo, 1380 was really a very minor conflict impact of which was successfully overblown by Russian propaganda.

  • @gruntyboy
    @gruntyboy 3 года назад +8

    History illustrated beautifully!
    Over and over and over...
    THANK YOU!!!

  • @mamonthful
    @mamonthful 3 года назад +46

    12:50 latest archeology finding and historical calulations by Oleg Dvurechenski limit BOTH armies to 7-9 thousands ccombatants.
    Also they BOTH were fully mounted, there is no single evidence of infantry in russian armed forces even in fights inside their own lands. Only mounted - heavy cavalry with bows. Every city could provide military contingent of 50-300 mounted warriors - these were the regiments, composing Dmitrii's army.
    By the way, italian sources say that Mamai hired approx 150 men total in all italian crimean colonies that summer. Just imagine, how SMALL Mamai's force was if those 150 men were specially mentioned (and sometimes claimed to be vital part of his battle line)

    • @josefcibulka2198
      @josefcibulka2198 3 года назад +6

      А узнали мы это на тупичке у Клима Саныча. Забыли добавить, что по московской рати остались и письменные списки войска.

    • @jekaoniscenco9777
      @jekaoniscenco9777 3 года назад

      @@josefcibulka2198 да и откуда там 45к монголов было

  • @kaloyanradkov8962
    @kaloyanradkov8962 3 года назад +42

    Legend says that veterans of this battle can still use discount in shops and restaurants in Russia

    • @ДмитрийВронский-в3с
      @ДмитрийВронский-в3с 3 года назад +7

      Those who were at the Dmitriy Donskoy side, only. ;-)
      (Actually, it is a joke standuped by famous writer Mikhail Zadornov...)

    • @voronion
      @voronion 3 года назад +3

      @@ДмитрийВронский-в3с But actually only tatars are able to present appropriate documents confirming them being participants.

    • @vechnoezabvenie
      @vechnoezabvenie 3 года назад +7

      @@voronion "I'm a veteran, serve me!" - "Do you have a document?" - "Everyone was illiterate back then, what document???" - "Not my problem, the tatars always bring one!"

  • @gklkjuhylpoiuyuiojhjklkjuh9976
    @gklkjuhylpoiuyuiojhjklkjuh9976 3 года назад +13

    I suppose those guys would be extremely surprised seeing this map with Rybinsk Reservoir that was built in 1941.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 года назад +76

    The Rus would never dare to manscape until Peter told them to.

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei 3 года назад +2

      Pyotr the liberal poisoner of Rossiya?

    • @grib5210
      @grib5210 3 года назад

      @@scintillam_dei да.

  • @kotemura9090
    @kotemura9090 3 года назад +14

    *Very good work. From Russia with respect and thanks.*
    *And of course thanks to Hoc Est Bellum* :-)

  • @pikeshotBattles
    @pikeshotBattles 3 года назад +75

    Just when I'm doing a series on how Russia conquered Siberia. This was the first step to get to the first step. 300 years later the Muscovites ruled half a continent...

    • @dmfau588
      @dmfau588 3 года назад +39

      Not Muscovites - Russians, please.
      This state called Rus', Russia, that means habitans called Russians. So, nobody calls Germans "Berlinites" or English "Londonites".

    • @dmfau588
      @dmfau588 3 года назад +34

      @Maximillian Nechiporuk
      1) These states, principalities, lands were called "Rus" from the I X century, when no Moscow existed. The people are Russians, respectively.
      2) The name "Muscovy" is the western name of Russia and only during a certain period of its history. And it carries a dismissive connotation.
      3) The capital of the Russian empire was St. Petersburg. Why then not form the name of the people from this city?

    • @serbrat
      @serbrat 3 года назад +2

      @@dmfau588 Muscovites, was your own self given name, habitant of Moscow. You became "russians" in 20-th century only.

    • @serbrat
      @serbrat 3 года назад +2

      @@dmfau588 in your school-textbooks were they called 'Rus'?

    • @DD-lm1gv
      @DD-lm1gv 3 года назад +29

      @@serbrat You sound like a modern western Ukrainian CIA bot. Yes the slavs in question were known as the Rus. Even the term "Kievan Rus" was adopted much later in history. During it's time it was simply known As Rus "Русь". Peter the Great "latinized" the name to Russia by adding "ia" like in "IberIA" to westernize it as he was a big fan of western Europeans in the 1700s. By saying that Russians became Russians in the 20th century shows how amazingly ignorant you are.

  • @holyarchangelmichael
    @holyarchangelmichael 3 года назад +29

    Excellent video. I didn't know much about this battle until I watched this video. Dimitry came up with an intelligent strategy and executed it perfectly. As you said, this battle didn't end Mongol dominion over the Rus principalities, but it was a significant first victory for the Rus over the Mongols. I look forward to the next video!

    • @ivokantarski6220
      @ivokantarski6220 3 года назад +1

      The reprisals may be very heavy and a deep regret but no matter how sad people are they will remember the story that their people once ago beat a major Mongol army. Wounds heal after all.

    • @Poctyk
      @Poctyk 3 года назад

      > this battle didn't end Mongol dominion over the Rus principalities,
      Yeah there were like 2 or 3 that were still under Mongols (Moscow, Tver, Novgorod) everyone else were [relatively] happily living in Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Rus and Samogitia

    • @AlexCatable
      @AlexCatable Год назад +2

      @@Poctyk Vladimir, Suzdal, Ryazan, Kursk, Rostov the Great...yeah, man, try harder.

  • @impaugjuldivmax
    @impaugjuldivmax 3 года назад +8

    thank you! history of pre-imperial russia is unknown and always interesting!

  • @СтаниславСорокин-ъ3б
    @СтаниславСорокин-ъ3б 3 года назад +42

    I love history!

  • @syedazam2568
    @syedazam2568 3 года назад +14

    Bruh History Marche gives many gifts and each are a gem

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei 3 года назад

      I'm an atheist fanatic who wants the world to be more like North Korea than like Israel under King David, and so I must deign to inform you that History Marche is an illusion and delusion, for psyence says that a cat could have walked on a keyboard to do all of this work. It takes no intelligence for creating order you religious nut. Thank you.

    • @neos9898
      @neos9898 3 года назад +1

      and one of them is the gift of smooth balls

    • @syedazam2568
      @syedazam2568 3 года назад

      @@scintillam_dei Welcome, didn’t expect that reaction, but ok.

    • @scintillam_dei
      @scintillam_dei 3 года назад

      @@syedazam2568 LOL

  • @ahzam2862
    @ahzam2862 3 года назад +29

    Despite being victorious at the battle of Kulikovo, Prince Dimitri had to escape Moscow in order to save his 'family jewels'.

  • @DeRegelaar
    @DeRegelaar 3 года назад +27

    Fantastic video as always but as a historian i still cant believe that people make commercials about shaving balls.

  • @thebigone6071
    @thebigone6071 3 года назад +4

    History?? Manscaping??? Two of my favorite things!!!

  • @SergeyBerezovikov
    @SergeyBerezovikov 3 года назад +6

    I came here after the Klim Zhukov videos. After his jolly delivery it's good to appreciate how terrible the Mongol Invasion truly was.

  • @53yearsago56
    @53yearsago56 3 года назад +3

    Thank you i have waited for this

  • @kamilszadkowski8864
    @kamilszadkowski8864 3 года назад +16

    11:00 I've spotted a small mistake. The name of Grand Duke of Lithuania at the time was Jogalia, not Władysław. He was baptized and given the name Władysław a couple of years after the Battle of Kulikovo.

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. 3 года назад +7

      Yeah, I was about to comment saying that it is technically anachronistic to call him Władysław II Jagiełło at this point.

    • @randomuser6685
      @randomuser6685 3 года назад +2

      :D also consider the small mistake that HistoryMarche painted the entire GDL as part of the rus when it wasn't

    • @garyf8086
      @garyf8086 3 года назад +1

      But Dmitry also became Donskoy after the battle. (From the name of the river Don. DONskoy)

  • @bannerofislam8119
    @bannerofislam8119 3 года назад +24

    Love knows no boundaries... neither does the
    MONGOLIAN EMPIRE 😬

    • @mariano98ify
      @mariano98ify 3 года назад +12

      except when this comes to marshes, sea, mountains, jungle, etc.

    • @LTPottenger
      @LTPottenger 3 года назад +2

      One good swamp and they all die of malaria within the month

    • @johnschillo4452
      @johnschillo4452 3 года назад

      Mongols couldn't read signs - "proper documentation needed to enter"

  • @ogilvy85
    @ogilvy85 3 года назад +4

    Exceptional work! Thank you for this. Please do keep it up. ❤️

  • @danielg8700
    @danielg8700 3 года назад +18

    I wonder what ancient people would think of this modern world if they could see it. Like if the mongols saw your manscape ad, they would think it must be a joke, much like the rest of the modern world. Love watching these docos though, keep them up .

  • @GrajdaninRejisser
    @GrajdaninRejisser 3 года назад +28

    Спасибо за реконструкцию Куликовской битвы !

  • @AhmeD-SnafR
    @AhmeD-SnafR 3 года назад +4

    continue
    This channel deserves support in every way
    Thank you

  • @onemileperhour
    @onemileperhour 3 года назад +10

    ok the manscaped ad is a new low

  • @vladiiidracula3522
    @vladiiidracula3522 3 года назад +20

    Things were dangerous enough back in my day without putting my nuts at risk every time I had a trim. If only I’d had access to Manscaped. I couldn’t even find it in the markets of Brasov!

    • @MikeD56034
      @MikeD56034 3 года назад

      dangerous for who? you or the people you uh...uhmmm uplifted to new heights...yah! nailed it...oh...oops...

  • @donwilliams8357
    @donwilliams8357 2 года назад +2

    Outstanding historical narrative of a key battle in the history of Europe. Accompanying the retelling of the story should be artistic drawings of the armies and landscape.

  • @Mercnix101
    @Mercnix101 3 года назад +4

    I love it when @HistoryMarche do the ads with his voice XD.

  • @yaralikatil
    @yaralikatil 3 года назад +6

    In all historical sources, we are talking about a state that is referred to as the Kipchak Khanate and whose language, army, culture, population, in short, is Turkish in all aspects. Therefore, it seems very illogical to describe this state as Mongol. It comes not from Genghis Khan but from a Turkish clan who kidnapped his wife, so the ruling class is also Turkish.In the first establishment of this state, it has nothing to do with the Mongols or with the Mongol history, except that it was affiliated with the Mongol Empire.To regard this state as a Mongol is as absurd as calling every state dependent on the Abbasids during its establishment period an Arab state.
    The Golden Horde and his descendants were of Turkish origin not ethnic Chinggissid.
    There is some question as to Jochi's true paternity. Shortly after Börte's marriage to Genghis Khan (known as Temüjin at the time), she was abducted by members of the Mergidconfederation. She was given to a certain Chilger Bökh, who was the brother of the Yehe Chiledu, as a spoil of war. She remained in Chilger Bökh's captivity for a few months before she was recovered by Temüjin. Shortly afterwards she gave birth to Jochi. By all accounts, Genghis Khan treated Jochi as his first son, but a doubt always remained[whose?]whether Temüjin or Chilger Bökh was his real father. Jochi's descendants, although they formed the oldest branch of Genghis Khan's family, were never considered for the succession in claiming their father's heritage and there were signs of estrangement between Jochi and Genghis Khan.
    Although the Secret History ignores Börte's pregnancy when recounting her dramatic rescue, it later describes Jochi as a “Merkit b?stard.
    Jochi means Guest in Mongolian which confirming his non-chingissid origin.
    In the course of the wars by which he won a hegemony over the Mongols,he was for a while a captive in the hands of the Tayichiut tribe,
    and his wife Börke,whom he married when he was seventeen , was held prisoner for some months by the Merkit Turks of Lake Baikal ; the legitimacy of her eldest
    son,Juji,who was born during his captivity,was always therefore suspect.
    www.cambridge.org/tr/academic/subjects/history/european-history-1000-1450/history-crusades-volume-3?format=PB&isbn=9780521347723

    (pp. 238-240)
    Ulus Juchi [Golden Horde or Kipchak Khanate]
    www.oxfordbibliographies.com/view/document/obo-9780195390155/obo-9780195390155-0119.xml
    Ilkhanate in Persia, the Kipchak Khanate or Golden Horde
    academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1052&context=lg_pubs
    Khan's eldest son Jochi came into possession of the Khanate of Kipchak or the Golden Horde
    extra.shu.ac.uk/emls/journal/index.php/emls/article/download/84/114
    Golden Horde” (actually the Kipchak Khanate, or at the time of its founding Ulus of Jochi
    research-repository.st-andrews.ac.uk/bitstream/10023/5149/6/ChristopherMottPhDThesis.pdf
    liberated themselves from the Kipchak Khanate, anachronistically known as the Golden Horde
    academiccommons.columbia.edu/doi/10.7916/D86D61Q4/download
    Others joined the khanate of the Golden Horde (also called the Western Kipchaks), which was organized on the former Cuman territory in Russia.
    encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Cumans
    He maintained close diplomatic ties with the Kipchak Khanate (also known as the Golden Horde), which controlled Crimea from the late thirteenth century to the mid fifteenth century, and commissioned the building of this mosque in Solhat (as Eski Krym was then known).
    beautifulspaces.omeka.fas.harvard.edu/item/661?collection=19
    In 1235, the Golden Horde (Khanate of Kipchak) was founded when Batu
    www.springerprofessional.de/en/dynastic-cycles-and-nomadic-conquests-further-evidence-from-chin/16951782
    Also known as the Kipchak Khanate or the Ulus ‘Realm’ of Jochi (c.1181-1227), the eldest of Genghis Khan... ...
    www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780191882913.001.0001/acref-9780191882913-e-9934?rskey=WFiysi&result=7

    Jochi, established a state often known as the Golden Horde or the Kipchak khanate.
    www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780190622718.001.0001/acref-9780190622718-e-483?rskey=EhEmDR&result=12
    It is also known as the Kipchak Khanate or as the Ulus of Jochi.
    thereaderwiki.com/en/Golden_horde
    ital of his Khanate of Kipchak, best known to history as the Gold- en Horde
    apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA233772.pdf
    Jochid or Kipchak Khanate in the Pontic-Caspian Steppes, known as
    www.worldcat.org/title/mongol-empire-a-historical-encyclopedia/oclc/962752105
    Batu founded the Khanate of. Kipchak, known to Europeans as the Golden Horde.
    www.nypl.org/sites/default/files/exhibition_pdf/russia_engages_the_world_final.pdf
    s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/26Kipchaks/KipchakKhanateEn.htm

    • @ъуъ-ш2с
      @ъуъ-ш2с 3 года назад +4

      Yes, they are nationally and culturally more Turkic, but they were partially genghishid, and steppe cultures of turkic, mongolic and even indo-european nomads were pretty same, and they probably did not mentioned nationalty at same importance as we mention now. For example Kazakh people (turkic) have some ~tribes of indo-iranian probably (saks) and mongolic (naimans) ancestry, so they all (aspecially in 14th century) are mixed up.
      Also probably in western historiography "mongols" means that they are gengis descendants. Moreover they(rulers of hordes) claimed mongol ancestry themselves, to prove their rights to rule (for example even completely turkic Timur)

    • @yaralikatil
      @yaralikatil 3 года назад +1

      @@ъуъ-ш2с naimans were turkic but after genghis khan they got mongolized like merkits
      There is some question as to Jochi's true paternity. Shortly after Börte's marriage to Genghis Khan (known as Temüjin at the time), she was abducted by members of the Mergidconfederation. She was given to a certain Chilger Bökh, who was the brother of the Yehe Chiledu, as a spoil of war. She remained in Chilger Bökh's captivity for a few months before she was recovered by Temüjin. Shortly afterwards she gave birth to Jochi. By all accounts, Genghis Khan treated Jochi as his first son, but a doubt always remained[whose?]whether Temüjin or Chilger Bökh was his real father. Jochi's descendants, although they formed the oldest branch of Genghis Khan's family, were never considered for the succession in claiming their father's heritage and there were signs of estrangement between Jochi and Genghis Khan.
      Although the Secret History ignores Börte's pregnancy when recounting her dramatic rescue, it later describes Jochi as a “Merkit b?stard.
      Jochi means Guest in Mongolian which confirming his non-chingissid origin.
      In the course of the wars by which he won a hegemony over the Mongols,he was for a while a captive in the hands of the Tayichiut tribe,
      and his wife Börke,whom he married when he was seventeen , was held prisoner for some months by the Merkit Turks of Lake Baikal ; the legitimacy of her eldest
      son,Juji,who was born during his captivity,was always therefore suspect.
      www.cambridge.org/tr/academic/subjects/history/european-history-1000-1450/history-crusades-volume-3?format=PB&isbn=9780521347723

      (pp. 238-240)

    • @yaralikatil
      @yaralikatil 3 года назад +2

      @@ъуъ-ш2с kazakhs got mixed with mongolians yes

    • @ъуъ-ш2с
      @ъуъ-ш2с 3 года назад +1

      @@yaralikatil such things as jochi ancestry are not as important, he was raised by borjigins.
      Moreover, wasn merkits mongols?
      + Ethnogenesis of nomads, aspecially turko-mongolic tribes is way different than European ethnicities, so using such categories for naming tribes is waaay eurocentric, in my opinion

    • @xotl2780
      @xotl2780 3 года назад

      @@ъуъ-ш2с Mamai even had Genghis Khan's descendants in his army. It was the reason why he was willing and able to challenge actual legitimate Khans for territory.

  • @vulture1837
    @vulture1837 3 года назад +12

    I love your videos don’t ever stop

  • @jameskirkpatrick5569
    @jameskirkpatrick5569 3 года назад +7

    Good way to start a Saturday

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 года назад +40

    I’m now predicting Ivan III and IV to be next, the one that destroyed the last of the yoke.

    • @roomonleft
      @roomonleft 3 года назад +1

      Turko-Mongol "Yolk"eh? xD

  • @murtd3268
    @murtd3268 3 года назад +4

    Very good as always

  • @gogaonzhezhora8640
    @gogaonzhezhora8640 3 года назад +11

    Just one knock on the vid. Dmitriy got his nickname AFTER the battle BECAUSE of the battle at Don river.

  • @mohandgenaidy920
    @mohandgenaidy920 3 года назад +8

    شكراً للمترجم العربي جزاك الله خيراً 😁

    • @dragooll2023
      @dragooll2023 2 года назад +1

      Don't worry, he will get the finest 6 years olds in his region!!

  • @hannibalbarca9910
    @hannibalbarca9910 3 года назад +4

    Thank you so much.
    Your channel is amazing❤❤❤

  • @mamonthful
    @mamonthful 3 года назад +17

    4:50 - It wasn't Mamai, who granted jarlyk to Dmitrii, it was his opponent in Horde. That's why he gave it ti Milhail from Tver after taking Horde throne back - to counter his opponent's choice.

    • @Kher4m
      @Kher4m 3 года назад +3

      well. its not the one "error" in this video.
      There was no infantry in that time in russia.

    • @mamonthful
      @mamonthful 3 года назад +4

      @@Kher4m and both armies in battle didn't exceeded 7-8 thousands combatants.

    • @игорьолесюк-ф1к
      @игорьолесюк-ф1к 3 года назад

      @@Kher4m the infantry was, the militia and the fighting slaves, they are mentioned in the sources.

    • @Kher4m
      @Kher4m 3 года назад +1

      @@игорьолесюк-ф1к there was never a fighting slaves or any other source of infantry in all cavalery battle. the only non cavalery they had was support personal, and support was back at the camp, not on the battlefield.

  • @schutzstaffel8396
    @schutzstaffel8396 3 года назад +6

    Punic wars mate. Eagerly waiting.

  • @thatdude3938
    @thatdude3938 3 года назад +5

    That's some quality stuff

  • @logon235
    @logon235 2 года назад +11

    Excellent video. From the descriptions, it seems to me that the Mongol army of this time is a far cry from the more mobile armies of the time of the great khans. It seems more conventional for the region at the time rather than the vast difference in tactics that overwhelmed their opponents.

    • @kurdyumov4203
      @kurdyumov4203 2 года назад +3

      Просто за столетия русские научились с ними бороться, повысив и свою скорость в том числе...

    • @gromovboris
      @gromovboris 5 месяцев назад

      Dmitry specifically chose a relatively small battlefield on which the Mongols could not show their favorite tactics with horse archers and false retreats

  • @PvtSchlock
    @PvtSchlock Год назад

    I sat through the promo for manscape thinking "please don't have HistoryMarche say 'your balls will thank you' or I'll die."
    Thank you!

  • @XxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXXxXxxccx
    @XxXxXxXxXxXxXxXxXXxXxxccx 3 года назад +5

    Excellent video

  • @obscuraterror1891
    @obscuraterror1891 3 года назад +1

    Thanks! Serious part !!! Very good!

  • @joshuaiam485
    @joshuaiam485 3 года назад +12

    The art work
    The narrators epic voice
    The back_ground music
    One of my favourite channels and your videos literally make my day..😊.

  • @trentondamm194
    @trentondamm194 3 года назад +9

    I came
    I watched
    I liked!!

  • @TheAtl0001
    @TheAtl0001 3 года назад +3

    👍 Keep them coming. Thx

  • @anuragvaishampayan4477
    @anuragvaishampayan4477 3 года назад +5

    I was waiting for this video
    Thank You immortal (History Marche)
    Love From India 🇮🇳❤️

  • @1MuchButteR1
    @1MuchButteR1 3 года назад +28

    Little known fact is that Lithuania besieged the Kremlin, and Muscovite chronicles report that Lithuanian army devastated Moscow's surroundings.

    • @Герс-м4ъ
      @Герс-м4ъ 2 года назад

      Usually, when a city is besieged, the surroundings are devastated.

  • @rogersledz6793
    @rogersledz6793 2 года назад

    Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

    • @luboshcamber1992
      @luboshcamber1992 2 года назад

      @Roger Sledz
      You've commented a month ago. What pandemic?

  • @TetriT3
    @TetriT3 3 года назад +7

    Some fixes: both armies were mounted, no infantry, just light and heavy cavalry ~5000-7000 on each side.

  • @GMEOK
    @GMEOK 2 года назад +1

    I love this vids!!! You do such a good job! Well done!

  • @yavyav2281
    @yavyav2281 3 года назад +3

    Never heard of this guy, thanks !

  • @AJ-et3vf
    @AJ-et3vf 2 года назад

    Awesome video! Thank you! Loved this so much!

  • @5ynth3ticNZ
    @5ynth3ticNZ 3 года назад +3

    Was about to go to bed, but I better stay up a bit longer for this. Good thing its the weekend or the clock reading 5am would be a problem lol

  • @shahsaud2625
    @shahsaud2625 3 года назад +4

    The day just got better !

  • @belakovdoj
    @belakovdoj 3 года назад +9

    This siege of Moscow was the first mention of usage of cannons by Russians.

  • @Lonewolf-hn3fi
    @Lonewolf-hn3fi 3 года назад +2

    Fun fact Dmitry Donskoy is also the name of the largest submarine in the world ever built.

  • @Dokja0
    @Dokja0 3 года назад +3

    Haha. I am right on time this time.
    Edit. Just finished the video. Awesome work.

  • @aleksejssuharevs866
    @aleksejssuharevs866 3 года назад +2

    Feels like a perfect screenplay for an EPIC movie!

    • @oscarwind4266
      @oscarwind4266 Год назад +1

      Oh theres even more stuff to this battle. Acording to legend the russians and mongals challenge each other to a duel both believing they would win and show their troops they had divine favor. The Mongols sent a warrior, the Russians sent a warrior monk, it was cool, they fought, killed each other.
      Theres this series called the Winternight books about this era thats pretty neat if your allright with some magic shenanigans in your historical fiction.

  • @hugod2000
    @hugod2000 3 года назад +5

    Great video, really great production

  • @andreasleonardo6793
    @andreasleonardo6793 3 года назад +1

    Too nice history's video clearly explaining of historic events and labelling political ,economic aims behind mobilising armies

  • @KHK001
    @KHK001 3 года назад +6

    Amazing as always!

  • @DrWatchHD
    @DrWatchHD 3 года назад

    The best voice for this ad and in the context of a historic video!
    Gave like just for that

  • @СтаканВоды-г4д
    @СтаканВоды-г4д 3 года назад +29

    Мамай украинец типичный по внешности, лол

    • @Кипящийразум
      @Кипящийразум 3 года назад +10

      Yes. All Mongols are Ukrainians.

    • @bloodyfox6953
      @bloodyfox6953 3 года назад +7

      лысый и с усами, значит похож на украинца?)

    • @bloodyfox6953
      @bloodyfox6953 3 года назад +3

      значит лысый из Браззерс тоже похож на украинца)

    • @olekscap4620
      @olekscap4620 3 года назад +3

      Подрывал пуканы Московитам before it was cool =D

    • @М.Вахно
      @М.Вахно 3 года назад +2

      Молодцы Русы погнали валокитных

  • @bloodyfox6953
    @bloodyfox6953 3 года назад +1

    Like from the Tatar of the Urals ;) Great video!

  • @miklosszanyi620
    @miklosszanyi620 3 года назад +12

    Ah, there's nothing better, than to see a new HistoryMarche video!

  • @WestfaliaStuff
    @WestfaliaStuff 3 года назад +1

    Manscape is becoming my YT nemesis.

  • @gordonbryce
    @gordonbryce 3 года назад +30

    Impressive tactics from the Russians. They knew their enemy.

    • @andrewnajdenov9917
      @andrewnajdenov9917 3 года назад

      No Russians here. In was the fight of loyalists and rebels in Golden Horde civil war.

    • @ilyaefremov
      @ilyaefremov 3 года назад +14

      @@andrewnajdenov9917 What are you even talking about? ethnically and culturally they were Russians, whose divided state had to pay tribute to mongol khans.

    • @andrewnajdenov9917
      @andrewnajdenov9917 3 года назад +1

      @@ilyaefremovAt the first. "Russians" as nationality appear in the 18th century. In the XIV sentury there are no "Russians" at all. At the second. The Ryazan duchy was Mamai's ally. The Smolensk people as part of the Lithuanian duchy were Mamai's allies. Are they "Russian" or not? So it was not a battle between the “Russians” and the horde, but it was part of the battle between the horde loyalists and the horde rebels and their allies, as I said before.

    • @ilyaefremov
      @ilyaefremov 3 года назад +13

      @@andrewnajdenov9917 yeah, Russians just appear out of nowhere in the 18th century... Hero of napoleonic wars, lieutenant-general Efremov just appeared in the 18th century. Other Russians - just appeared. Russians - ethnically consisted at that time and consist up to this day of three major groups - Rus druzhina of mostly viking origins (later many of them became Cossacks and later transferred to Don from Zaporozhie), Slavic-polish part 60-70percent - whom druzhina defended, and small hunter-gatherer ugro-Finnish-tatar (not Crimea tatars, not mongols) parts. All of them became Russians even before 18th century.

    • @andrewnajdenov9917
      @andrewnajdenov9917 3 года назад

      ​@@ilyaefremov You can tell me that " Russians - ethnically consisted at"
      descendants of Adam and Eve. Sense will be the same.

  • @SousouCell
    @SousouCell 3 года назад +10

    So ...... Dimitri beats mamai who get then beaten by toqtamish who then goes to beat dimitri .......🤔
    Now lets do it considering timur helped toqtamish beat mamai who was beaten by dimitri before toqtamish beat him.
    And lets not forget that toqtamish, who beat mamai and dimitri was afterward beaten two times by the same timur , who had helped him beat mamai in first place before he was able to beat dimitri .....
    Feel free to complete.....
    Ohhh yeah i forgot ..... the narrator's voice is great .

    • @Boric78
      @Boric78 3 года назад +4

      There is always a bigger dog: Mamai < Dimitri < Toqtamish < Prince of Destruction

    • @Boric78
      @Boric78 3 года назад +4

      Tamerlane < Old Age

  • @Mishkafofer
    @Mishkafofer 3 года назад +7

    Mongols never had smooth balls. Let that sink in.

  • @stefanoruggeri9935
    @stefanoruggeri9935 2 года назад

    Another great video, thx!

  • @BNSFGuy4723
    @BNSFGuy4723 3 года назад +25

    Literally all of this could have been avoided if the Kwarezmian Shah never ordered the murder of the Mongol emissaries..

    • @sodinc
      @sodinc 3 года назад +5

      oh, these Kwarezmians always destroying russian perspectives, how typical
      (perspectives of prolonged internal wars of russian principalities, of course)

    • @BNSFGuy4723
      @BNSFGuy4723 3 года назад +3

      @@sodinc What does this have to do with my Big Mac Meal? I’ve been in line for about 15 minutes because I asked for unsalted fries and here you are talking about Russian perspectives. I will have you know that if I don’t get my order soon I will head on over to a restaurant and dine inside, exposing myself to covid.

    • @arishemghoul9571
      @arishemghoul9571 3 года назад

      I doubt that the mongols where bound to expand west either way

    • @BNSFGuy4723
      @BNSFGuy4723 3 года назад +2

      @@arishemghoul9571 Ghenghis originally sent trade emissaries. The only considerable power West was the Khwarezmian empire. If they did accept trade talks then it could be reasonable to conclude that the Mongols wouldn’t have expanded West. Almost half their western expansion was largely due to absorbing the Khwarezmian Empire which included much of Central Asia and Iran. That opened the flood gates to the rest of the ME and Caucasus

  • @tylose875
    @tylose875 3 года назад +1

    Just a clarification, in 1380 Jagiełło was not yet called Władysław, he only took the name after he became the King-Consort of Poland in 1386. Jagiełło was his Lithuanian name under which he ruled the Grand Duchy

    • @rzapcia5423
      @rzapcia5423 2 года назад

      to be even more clear - his name was Jogaila, not Jagiełło. Jagiełło is a polonized form of original lithuanian name.

  • @EdgarFriendly17
    @EdgarFriendly17 3 года назад +9

    I'm not sure what I enjoyed more, the ad or the rest ;)

  • @laertes9505
    @laertes9505 3 года назад +5

    Muchas gracias por los subtítulos. Muy interesante este pasaje bastante desconocido de la historia rusa.

  • @DarkFilmDirector
    @DarkFilmDirector 3 года назад +28

    People these days are so afraid of body hair. XD

    • @justinwbohner
      @justinwbohner 3 года назад +1

      Like smearing peanut butter in carpet.

    • @CleverChina
      @CleverChina 3 года назад

      Smooth body/face looks more pleasant

  • @Sandking-z9p
    @Sandking-z9p 3 года назад +5

    no more Hannibal stories?
    Thanks for the videos HistoryMarche.

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  3 года назад +6

      Working on part 14

    • @Sandking-z9p
      @Sandking-z9p 3 года назад +4

      Wow! So excited for that

    • @Sandking-z9p
      @Sandking-z9p 3 года назад +1

      Please make it until the defeat of Hannibal.

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche  3 года назад +5

      @@Sandking-z9p That's the plan. I'm a big Hannibal fanboy, and I will tell his story in as much detail as I can.

  • @resileaf9501
    @resileaf9501 3 года назад +5

    How ironic that Mamai was crushed at the Kalka river, just as the Rus were crushed there themselves.

    • @Freeliner75
      @Freeliner75 3 года назад +10

      Kalka looks like a natural barrier there, where all armies tend to skirmish around. Probably a lot of prehistoric undocumented battles did happen around it as well. That North Black Sea steppe had been a nomad waves corridor for several millenia. I think that ancestors of almost all European people did pass it with a battle in their own time - Greeks, Romanic people, Celts, Germans, Slavs.
      As later did Huns, Magyars, Bulgars, Cumans, Pechenegs.

  • @MetalHeadViking
    @MetalHeadViking 3 года назад +18

    Expectations for Mongols: Mongolian Throat singing.
    Reality for Mongols: Russian HARD BASS

  • @vengeance1741
    @vengeance1741 3 года назад +4

    One more video.
    Thanks alot

  • @SaifKhagan
    @SaifKhagan 3 года назад +8

    Do you mind making a series on Emir Timur's conquests, just like you did for Hannibal. It's a lot to ask for, but I would love it.

    • @LTPottenger
      @LTPottenger 3 года назад +1

      He is not talked about enough!

    • @SaifKhagan
      @SaifKhagan 3 года назад +2

      @@LTPottenger So maybe just some of his main battles such as his battle against Tokhtamysh, his invasion of Delhi and his battle against Bayezid at the battle of Ankara. Just saying.

    • @Freeliner75
      @Freeliner75 3 года назад +3

      Yep that is especially interesting because Timur had virtually destroyed Tohtamysh mentioned in this video, and saved Rus from complete devastation by Horde forces.

    • @SaifKhagan
      @SaifKhagan 3 года назад +1

      @@Freeliner75 Exactly

  • @arrikmontijo3916
    @arrikmontijo3916 3 года назад +3

    Another masterpiece!

  • @AlexC-ou4ju
    @AlexC-ou4ju 3 года назад +12

    why did Mamai not try to deal with tokhtamish first if he was going to attempt that with depleted forces later anyway? Also what happened to his allies?

    • @siprus
      @siprus 3 года назад +6

      Not necessary something we can know since there might not be historical source, but very likely a show of force would have increased his standing in mongol's internal politics making other mongols more likely to follow himself instead of tokhtamish. Tokthamishes' rise probably was tied to Mamai's poor handling of Rus princes.
      Also the Russians probably were seen as easier foe to defeat and the plunder and tribute from russia could be used to fund bigger army.

    • @РоманМаршанин-к6з
      @РоманМаршанин-к6з 3 года назад +10

      Mamai had a problem, he wasn't direct royal descent of Genghis Khan, he was just competent tribal warlord struggling for power. Just like Amir Timur once was. Tokhtamysh, however was the Genghisid and had rights to be the ruler. So, for tributary states and for Horde's aristocracy Mamai was an usurper. But he desperately needed tributes from all Golden Horde neighbouring tributary states to fuel his military and political campaign in Hordes internal struggle. Moscow wasn't biggest principality, but it was designated by mongol rulers as the local "tax collector". While Horde was in turmoil, Moscow had accumulated tributes from neighbours for years already.
      Year later Dmitry refused to pay tributes to legal Horde ruler Khan Tokhtamysh. So Horde's army sacked and burned Moscow in retaliation strke.

    • @Poctyk
      @Poctyk 3 года назад

      ​@@siprus > since there might not be historical source
      I wanted to say that archeologists found around 5k different manuscripts (people shouldn't think that empire of Genghis were some unwashed tribes that don't know neither writing nor law) during excavations of Khara-Khoto.... But it seems that city ceased to exist just around 1380

    • @magnuscoles5010
      @magnuscoles5010 3 года назад +5

      Tokhtamish at this point was supported by Timur, you dont wanna fuck with Timur

    • @Skymaster.47
      @Skymaster.47 3 года назад

      @@magnuscoles5010 Amir "Delhi Decimator" Timur was indeed not to be messed with.

  • @isakhanofbengal5936
    @isakhanofbengal5936 3 года назад +3

    Want a video over Muslim conquest of Spain.

  • @bahademesin9293
    @bahademesin9293 3 года назад +3

    Toktamish Khan hails from the Mangistau region of Kazakhstan I'm from there too

    • @Freeliner75
      @Freeliner75 3 года назад +1

      @Metallus Zorax looks like it was just an oppressive father who held this one big family together.

  • @gediminaskucinskas6952
    @gediminaskucinskas6952 3 года назад +4

    Hmm in the map it is shown that Belarus is part of Rus but at that time it was most certainly part of Grand Duchy of Lithuania.

    • @nikolaynovichkov166
      @nikolaynovichkov166 3 года назад +3

      Of course it was, but that didn't stop it from being Rus.

    • @randomuser6685
      @randomuser6685 3 года назад

      No idea why he called the grand duke a rus prince either

    • @randomuser6685
      @randomuser6685 3 года назад

      ​@@nikolaynovichkov166 :D lithuania wasn't rus, tho

  • @APHH-Content
    @APHH-Content 2 года назад +5

    Србија Русија 🇷🇸🇷🇺

  • @mojewjewjew4420
    @mojewjewjew4420 3 года назад +6

    I already saw K&G video on this battle but I will watch it again because Marche does them better.

  • @pelimies1818
    @pelimies1818 3 года назад +1

    In Scandinavia this is know as Kullikova Tušander.
    The sides mixed in hard action as both sides came with the biggest load in history of sea men from Crimea to Seaborg!