The Ferrari Testarossa was a 23-year-long mistake - ISSIMI Spotlight feat. Jason Cammisa - Ep. 06

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
  • Some things don't go the way they're planned. We often call them "mistakes." But some of the best things have come from unplanned events, miscalculations, or aberrations: the Ferrari Testarossa, the Post-It note, and even Jason Cammisa. We asked his mom. Jason was a mistake.
    Doesn't make him less of a Jason. And the Testarossa, despite its huge commercial success, was part of a lineage of Ferraris which was, in retrospect, compromised at its mission.
    Ferrari, perhaps caving to the en-vogue mid-engine fad of the late 1960s and early 1970s, ushered his 12-cylinder GT cars away from their successful front-engine layout. For the 365 GT/4 BB, Ferrari splayed the Daytona's V-12 to 180 degrees and mounted it the middle of a body so sultry that its creators nicknamed it "BB," after Brigitte Bardot.
    Ferrari's press office had to make up a story about BB, and called it the Berlinetta Boxer - but of course this Berlinetta never had a Boxer engine. (Ferrari insiders confirmed this BB story to us.)
    The press railed on the BB for not being a usable car, and so it was replaced with the Testarossa, which gained 6 inches in width that allowed the cooling system to be moved to the rear of the car. This addressed the media's complaints about the heat-soaked cabin. Despite its enormity, the Testarossa became one of the most successful Ferrari models ever.
    Its 1980s cocaine-snorting image doesn't quite line up with the valium-popping driving experience, but the Testarossa was a magnificent luxuxry car. Great, just not what you'd expect. Its replacement, the 512 TR, sharpened many of the rounded edges and made it halfway back to the magnificent 365 BB's driving experience, but without the drawbacks.
    After 23 years, Enzo had left us, and the mid-engined 12-cylinder GT was retired by new boss Luca Cordero di Montezemolo, who realized the middle-motor concept was probably best left for the sports cars. The flat-12 lineage ended, and the Ferrari GT returned to its front-engine roots with the 550 Maranello.
    The Testarossa is the middle-child in a two-decade series of cars between the 365 GT/4 BB, BB 512, and BB 512i; and then the 512 TR and 512 M. Each is an amazing Ferrari in its own right, even if it's not what you think it is, proving that sometimes the best things come from something that ultimately proved to be a mistake.
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    ISSIMI’s “Spotlight” series gives automotive enthusiasts and collectors an in-depth look at rare, interesting, and important cars. “Spotlight” is an editorial wiki video that, first and foremost, provides context, answering the question “why is this car important?”
    With his trademark balance of insight and comedy, automotive journalist Jason Cammisa combines the facts with editorial insight, allowing the audience to walk away with a cursory understanding of each featured car. Wherever possible, Spotlight will include driving footage and acceleration footage with high-quality audio to provide a first-person experience of sight, sound, and motion that words alone never could.
    ISSIMI is an enthusiast-owned, full-service specialist offering sales, consignment, collection management, service, and consulting to discerning enthusiasts and collectors. Specializing in complex transactions that include international services for exceptional cars, ISSIMI’s San Francisco Bay Area and Europe-based teams of experts pride themselves on transparency and knowledge. ISSIMI also produces enthusiast editorial media, including “Spotlight,” “Jason Cammisa on the Icons,” “The Carmudgeon Show,” and “Proper Care & Feeding of Cars.” Some of the vehicles featured in these editorial products, including the subjects in this Spotlight video, may be listed for sale through ISSIMI’s platform. Please check www.ISSIMI.com for more information.

Комментарии • 982

  • @ianl8389
    @ianl8389 4 года назад +473

    This series is EXCELLENT. I love learning the backstories and real experiences behind these epic cars. You're not a mistake to us, Jason

    • @haydenhale9066
      @haydenhale9066 4 года назад +1

      Am only 24, I second this comment

    • @richardmahoney9415
      @richardmahoney9415 4 года назад +5

      I 3rd it Jason is one the all time best RUclips car reviewers or car reviewer period my short list Jason and Chris Harris

    • @ctdieselnut
      @ctdieselnut 3 года назад

      The best car journalists by a large margin. Interesting, compelling, and well written. Chris Harris was also great when he was independent, but just descent on top gear.

  • @JasonCammisa
    @JasonCammisa 4 года назад +648

    I love how this video got 2 dislikes before the first view was complete! That means my title is... WINNING! I explain the "mistake" thing in the video, but you'll just have to watch it. Questions? Ask 'em here.

    • @lyndonklymchuk7391
      @lyndonklymchuk7391 4 года назад +37

      I havent even watched it yet and hit like! lol

    • @JasonCammisa
      @JasonCammisa 4 года назад +38

      @@lyndonklymchuk7391 Thaaaaaat's more like it! 🥰

    • @kennethwilliamsinc
      @kennethwilliamsinc 4 года назад +20

      JasonCammisa I can tell you put a lot of effort in your videos by the way you smelled that interior 😂 ! Love your videos man!

    • @llys3742
      @llys3742 4 года назад +8

      But can you reach the top of the steering wheel? (Also, maybe it's intentional, but I can hear "action" in the very beginning of the vid.)

    • @iammyping
      @iammyping 4 года назад +8

      Yep, that's how You make RUclips videos ladies and gentleman.

  • @camilorodriguez5603
    @camilorodriguez5603 4 года назад +1023

    23 year-long mistake wow that's one year less than the Me lol

    • @Turshin
      @Turshin 4 года назад +5

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Cylus024
      @Cylus024 4 года назад +4

      Same here...same here...

    • @MrLundefaret
      @MrLundefaret 4 года назад

      #metoo 😂

    • @victoralley708
      @victoralley708 4 года назад +14

      You weren't a mistake, you were a suprise... 😂

    • @zxsand
      @zxsand 4 года назад

      Same bro

  • @hanyrambod_FST7
    @hanyrambod_FST7 4 года назад +497

    Thanks for not beating up my Testarossa too much Jason! The title of the video did scare me a bit but you were right on in terms of the driving characteristics. I’m surprised you forgot to mention the car has a built in cocaine mirror in the glove compartment, ah the 80’s lol. 😎

    • @kevinkim9620
      @kevinkim9620 4 года назад +20

      that glove compartment mirror, first time i heard of it. awesome lmao

    • @FrancoisSchneider
      @FrancoisSchneider 4 года назад +40

      The Countach also had a cocaine mirror, as the mirror on the passenger side sun shade was detachable.

    • @andyb1653
      @andyb1653 3 года назад +49

      @@FrancoisSchneider "Why would you EVER need a small, handheld mirror in 1980s Miami?!"
      -Doug DeMuro

    • @itsmvrik
      @itsmvrik 3 года назад +4

      Omg the Pro Creator himself 🤯

    • @Atlastheyote222
      @Atlastheyote222 3 года назад +4

      Enzo knew his customer base well

  • @sabastiantaylor7209
    @sabastiantaylor7209 4 года назад +524

    Testarossa is STILL beautiful. It’s rolling art!

    • @ghost21501
      @ghost21501 4 года назад +17

      The 512TR looks miles better.

    • @stephanvelines7006
      @stephanvelines7006 4 года назад +10

      I like the 512BB most

    • @paulthomson9709
      @paulthomson9709 4 года назад +13

      I would take any one of them over any of there current lineup, not one single current ferrari I like .

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 4 года назад

      Paul Thomson so you’re the old man who wants to drive a couch type ?

    • @campkira
      @campkira 4 года назад +2

      meh... too 80 for me...

  • @productofthe80s
    @productofthe80s 3 года назад +10

    'Love It or Hate It' the *Testarossa* is and always will be one of Ferrari's most iconic looking Cars

  • @mcspikesky
    @mcspikesky 4 года назад +212

    Production is way too good for 60k subs. A gem yet to be discovered(lol), love the style, Cammisa

    • @abalakrishnan4152
      @abalakrishnan4152 4 года назад +11

      Cammisa is my all time favorite motoring journalist.

    • @STRGHTSXBNZ
      @STRGHTSXBNZ 4 года назад

      Amen to all above

    • @dhoffnun
      @dhoffnun 4 года назад +1

      It's like Donut but a bit less... flamboyant?

    • @obsidian....
      @obsidian.... 4 года назад

      People will slowly continue to find it... But I agree

    • @writenamehere0000
      @writenamehere0000 3 года назад

      Too much for this cocaine addict

  • @Alvaricokemaureira
    @Alvaricokemaureira 4 года назад +85

    in an interview of Davide Cironi with Mauro Forghieri, he explained that BB means Berlinetta Bialbero (berlinetta Twin Cam)

    • @JasonCammisa
      @JasonCammisa 4 года назад +42

      Saw that. And I called Modena on this one and was told, in no uncertain terms, that BB came from BB, Bardot's nickname.

    • @TehRuiAlv3z
      @TehRuiAlv3z 4 года назад +6

      @@JasonCammisa They're selling a better story than the engineer could ever tell...

    • @tonydelo7292
      @tonydelo7292 4 года назад +2

      @@TehRuiAlv3z true

    • @retroracingshirt591
      @retroracingshirt591 4 года назад +4

      ownership manual says: Berlinetta Boxer

    • @aydankhaliq2967
      @aydankhaliq2967 3 года назад +5

      Forghieri is super underrated. First with a delta wing concept, first with a spoon wing concept and did the aero for the 250 gto.

  • @SPy009r0
    @SPy009r0 4 года назад +7

    10:54 Your shifting in the BB was perfection, I had to rewatch several times to enjoy that close ratio box.

  • @bicyclist2
    @bicyclist2 4 года назад +30

    This is one of the best Ferrari videos I've seen in a long time. I was always a big fan of the Testarossa. Thank you.

  • @dillon6630
    @dillon6630 3 года назад +23

    This guy is the most entertaining car reviewer since clarkson. Perfectly balanced humor with detailed informative history.

    • @anciagabelus1802
      @anciagabelus1802 3 года назад +1

      Yessss I agree

    • @amsterob
      @amsterob 3 года назад

      too bad he sounds like an ass. you must be easily entertained.

    • @dillon6630
      @dillon6630 3 года назад

      @@amsterob You must be super fun at parties

    • @horsepower523
      @horsepower523 8 месяцев назад

      Are you kidding me? You really like this kind of exaggerated clown behaviour? This isn't proper car journalism.

  • @mchristr
    @mchristr 4 года назад +27

    In the early '80's, while working at a SF car repair shop, I was sent to the local tire store to pick up a Mercedes-Benz. There sat a 512BB. It was like seeing a rock star, only better.

  • @AdarisTempest
    @AdarisTempest 4 года назад +9

    The 512TR is quite honestly the only Ferrari I truly lust after, even counting modern stuff. Is it from growing up in the late 80's and early 90's? No idea! But it speaks to me like no other.

    • @Boredoutofmywits
      @Boredoutofmywits 6 дней назад

      Never lusted aftter a F40? Or a GTO? Neither? Not a bit?

  • @banestock
    @banestock 4 года назад +6

    This show is automotive gold! Good job Jason & team! Can’t wait for the next episode!

  • @727skydivers
    @727skydivers 4 года назад +50

    "Looks like Cocaine, drives like Valium!"

  • @jamespisano1164
    @jamespisano1164 4 года назад +30

    What a great "mistake" it was. I love the 512 TR. One of the coolest cars ever made besides the CarreraRS, the 930 Turbo, and the ultimate car ever made, the 959.

    • @BasedHadrian
      @BasedHadrian 3 года назад +1

      959 the ultimate car ever? You just picked a twin turbo 6 cylinder as the best car ever, you’re not to be trusted with car opinions.

    • @jamespisano1164
      @jamespisano1164 3 года назад

      @@BasedHadrian Ok cupcake. Go have a bubble bath.

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 3 года назад

      @1% Evan Ł lol

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 3 года назад

      @@BasedHadrian it's a really nice car

    • @evermayne3151
      @evermayne3151 2 года назад

      @@BasedHadrian it was a car that was way ahead of its time

  • @FixItRyan
    @FixItRyan 4 года назад +9

    I love car videos where you learn new things. This hasn't happened for me in at least a decade. Great video 👌

  • @Houthiandtheblowfish
    @Houthiandtheblowfish 4 года назад +6

    The best video on this era of Ferrari

  • @subarnosinha8042
    @subarnosinha8042 4 года назад +7

    Finally, the Testarossa/512 video everyone was waiting for. Took you long enough, Jason!

  • @carlob517
    @carlob517 4 года назад +12

    like your humour," buying a Congressman for a 100k " was spot on lol

  • @Vekurus
    @Vekurus 4 года назад +6

    Oh how I remember that Car&Driver magazine cover when I was a kid. That started my love affair not with the Testarossa, but with the GTO.

    • @ghostinplainsight4803
      @ghostinplainsight4803 4 года назад

      Instantly brought back memories

    • @harryrodriguez9796
      @harryrodriguez9796 3 года назад

      YEA, I USE TO HAVE ONE, BUT I GAVE IT TO A LONG GONE GIRL FRIEND 😩
      BUT I KEEP THE COUNTACH 1988 SPECIAL EDITION MAGAZINE FOR EVER.
      SALUDOS FROM COSTA RICA.
      (how i missing my magazine 😭)

  • @AaronSmith-kr5yf
    @AaronSmith-kr5yf 3 года назад +1

    Maybe I'm a generation late, but the Testarossa/512 TR is the ultimate 1980's/early 90's Ferrari. The 512 BB just looks back to the 1970's, same thing with the Tom Sellick mustache 308 models.

  • @DeltaDubai03
    @DeltaDubai03 4 года назад +15

    It's a great video. from start to finish. Actually, I wished it never ended as the onboard experiences were so good. Those V12s sound amazing and the "click" of the gated boxes...

  • @zetoch
    @zetoch Год назад

    This video is extremely well done. Very entertaining and to the point. Love the speechless conclusion that says so much by comparing the 3 cars in just a few seconds. Impressive stuff. You guys rock!

  • @benhadden7038
    @benhadden7038 4 года назад +12

    This video popping up is the Best surprise to happen this week whilst taking a poo.

  • @WhiteGloveFans
    @WhiteGloveFans 4 года назад +1

    You nailed this video. As a 1987 TR owner you really hit this one out of the park. Well done!!!

  • @future62
    @future62 4 года назад +3

    The auto industry needs more of these mistakes today. Everyone is coalescing around the same definition of perfection. 500cc/cyl ZF8 equipped AWD car with "drift mode". We won't be talking about the cars of today in 30 years......

    • @badlydrawncars6460
      @badlydrawncars6460 4 года назад

      People will be talking about muscle cars though. The last bastion of naturally aspirated, manual, V8 cars...and every one ignored them.

    • @vimalkarpe5818
      @vimalkarpe5818 4 года назад

      There's Koeniggggsenisseggsegnignigsegigiseg

    • @juanordonezgalban2278
      @juanordonezgalban2278 4 года назад

      Hypercar-wise these are great years, I hope the valkyrie becomes the next F1

  • @peppino5413
    @peppino5413 3 года назад +1

    Exactly , well stated.🙂Most inventions occur by mistake.One of the best 1986 super- cars I have ever driven..., Testarossa with spline knock-off wheels...quite comfortable but not the easiest to drive...20 minute warm up time and forget about quick gear changes.....High C of G which makes the back end twitchy at speed around bends....and poor brakes. Forget about driving in traffic on a hot day.🥵🥵🥵😎At 11:11 Testarossa drivers' side mirror oscillates so retention spring is loose or missing.....a truly entertaining well presented video without the usual " hit the subscribe button B.S. Well done Sir Jason.👌👌👌

    • @eastbaystreet1242
      @eastbaystreet1242 4 месяца назад

      Fun to see this comment! My 1992 was exactly as you said, long warm up, the widest back tires ever but so easy to induce wheel spin, and a heavy/reluctant gear box... but I'm still glad I did it. It's one of those, stop/smack/wow, I really did that moments. It led me to look for more and I found the Ferrari Challenge, which was a blast.

  • @VarioFelce
    @VarioFelce 4 года назад +36

    Saluti dall'Italia Adam Sandler! Sei bravissimo

  • @redshifteightpoint6
    @redshifteightpoint6 7 дней назад

    Gotta love the Testarossa for what it is: one of the most beautiful GT cars ever built. Mad respect to the craftsmen who designed and hand built these beautiful machines. And just look at that photo of Lamborghini standing defiantly on his tractor next to what are two of the most iconic sports cars ever made - as if to say, "Hey Enzo! Have a look at these!"

  • @EricHamm
    @EricHamm 3 года назад +5

    Whoa this is where Jason went. He was sorely missed on MotorTrend reviews.

  • @trisbuckley409
    @trisbuckley409 3 года назад +1

    Having owned all of them, you are spot on. The Boxer has the most character, especially when properly restored.

  • @moizzkhan8546
    @moizzkhan8546 4 года назад +11

    How the F*** is this channel not on 100,000 subs already ?!

    • @fastcargtv6
      @fastcargtv6 4 года назад

      I guess the usual 1 hour long discussions on the channel retain many of today's 'RUclips-eaters' to spend that much time watching a video where nothing happens visually. They are living in the fast lane. They aren't like many of us. After 28-years of ownership of Alfetta GTVs I still be able to gaze them long and realize new and new great details around.

    • @BOKtober
      @BOKtober 4 года назад

      This may sound like a dumb reason but it does have a terrible name, branding is very important

  • @bretthatfield2516
    @bretthatfield2516 29 дней назад

    Watching this now after watching all the work Jason has done for Hagerty is seeing the first step in a genesis. Very well done.

  • @kindledlight
    @kindledlight 4 года назад +3

    While the BB might have been the first production Flat-12, the Porsche 917 had a Flat-12 screaming on track just 4 years prior. So, maybe not the worlds "first" flat-12

    • @alexjenner1108
      @alexjenner1108 3 года назад +1

      I almost fell off my chair when he said "world's first and only ever horizontally opposed or flat 12". I'm not sure how you end up presenting an automotive channel, without knowing the Porsche 917, which was a legend not just at Le Mans and other European sports car races, but also in the Can-Am series until it was banned. It would be a little more understandable if someone didn't know about Ferrari running a flat-12 1.5L Ferrari 1512 in the 1964/65 Formula One seasons, as the team also ran the 158 1.5L V8 in most races, so those flat-12 cars probably aren't so well known.

    • @kindledlight
      @kindledlight 3 года назад +1

      @@alexjenner1108 Exactly. I was basically yelling at my phone watching this haha. Maybe he was referring solely to production cars for the most part but even so, we can't forget some of the early F1 greats and the mighty 917

  • @paulmonte7642
    @paulmonte7642 2 года назад +1

    Fair breakdown of the TR... well done !

  • @Prodriver33
    @Prodriver33 Год назад +7

    The 512TR is the best looking Ferrari ever.

  • @esstee9595
    @esstee9595 4 года назад +2

    Horizontally opposed engine is a "boxer" (one piston at top of stroke the other at bottom of stroke on a horizonal plane) engine, unlike an opposed piston engine which is what you describe, (both at top or both at bottom, of stroke that meet in the middle, on a horizontal plane) is not. So the "180* V " in the BB/TR is a boxer engine.

    • @erik_cruz
      @erik_cruz 3 года назад

      Thank you!!! The whole "technically its not a boxer, its a flat V12" narrative has become a bit of a pet peeve of mine! Its not a damn V engine that was magically flatten. It's not a flat 12 that operates as a v12. Boxer engines are not defined by their crankshaft pins configuration... The 512 BB, Testarossa and the 512 TR all have flat 12's aka horizontally opposed 12's aka boxers. Period. I have a Testarossa that just got to my shop that had been down for the better part of 4 years because someone installed a Motec and programmed it run a v12. I reprogrammed the Motec to run a boxer 12, and what do you know, the engine fired up and purred. The car bounced from Ferrari shop to Ferrari shop because no one knew the Motec was configured by someone who bought into the "180* v12" theory. I swear, this is the automotive equivalent of flat earth theory.

    • @esstee9595
      @esstee9595 3 года назад +1

      @@erik_cruz That's all well and good with working out the firing sequence of the cranks, good work, but boxer/"horizontally opposed" pistons do not meet in the middle like your explanation/boxer gloved demonstration, i.e. smashing your fists together at 1:58. That is how an "opposed piston" crank/engine works, not a boxer crank/engine. The v 12 engine in the Testarossa has one crank and 12 cylinders/combustion chambers that each powers only the one piston in it, as opposed to an opposed piston combustion chamber that powers 2 pistons, each on its own separate crank, that meet at TDC in the same/shared combustion chamber, like your "boxing" demonstration at 1"58. If the v-12 in the Testarossa had an opposed piston engine like you demonstrate, it would have 2 cranks, and 6 combustion chambers. Cheers.

  • @ashdoglsu
    @ashdoglsu 3 года назад +4

    Miami Vice made it out to be a cool car that's fast. I think they nailed it.

  • @davecroden9793
    @davecroden9793 3 года назад +1

    I watch these because of this guy. I love the way he tells the stories of these cars.

  • @FrostedSeagull
    @FrostedSeagull 4 года назад +6

    Love the 512TR and I actually saw one a week ago 👌.
    They cost an absolute fortune. There is a low mileage one for sale in my home, Australia for
    $USD361,000 OR
    $526 000 Aussie dollars ! 🤷‍♂️

  • @mikeyaustin7526
    @mikeyaustin7526 2 дня назад +1

    By far one of my favorite ferraris just for the vibe

  • @foxrower
    @foxrower 4 года назад +5

    That ending was great to hear the comparison!

  • @mitchellkohrmann
    @mitchellkohrmann 4 года назад

    I own a Testarossa. One of 10 exotic cars I’ve had in the past few years. It far exceeds my expectations, and is the best of the bunch. The car is exactly what you would want, comfortable enough for grand tours, yet still fast enough to make you smile in the turns. The sound is incredible, and I love the weirdness of the car, nothing makes sense, and I love that!

    • @mitchellkohrmann
      @mitchellkohrmann 4 года назад

      Oh, forgot to mention my car was sold to Columbia for the first owner. Cocaine car confirmed!

  • @christianbrix5211
    @christianbrix5211 4 года назад +4

    Good to see Adam Sandler has been reading up on cars and learned how to act.

  • @karacop78
    @karacop78 4 года назад

    Testarossa for the looks, 512TR for the sound and BB for an excuse to learn how a flat 12 cannot be a boxer. Great vid as always.

    • @E3T7
      @E3T7 4 года назад

      I think I’d have to agree. Favorite car of all time is the og testa

  • @cls63amgwagon34
    @cls63amgwagon34 4 года назад +5

    Ok the 512M is NOT THAT BAD, it’s just the weird front grille opening, idk that’s the only excuse I can give it

    • @andreuclimentverdu9593
      @andreuclimentverdu9593 4 года назад

      Yes! I too can't understand the hate behind the M... I'd even venture to say it's one of the most beautiful 512 derivates

    • @SARCASM_IS_MY_FIRST_NAME
      @SARCASM_IS_MY_FIRST_NAME 3 года назад +2

      9:02 Just to look at the 512M it's make me wanna 🤮🤮🤮

  • @davidsaintcyr3384
    @davidsaintcyr3384 3 года назад

    The finest automotive journalism there is

  • @N8_DoubleYou
    @N8_DoubleYou 4 года назад +4

    When I see a gated shifter, I turn into a telescope.

  • @capnella
    @capnella 4 года назад

    Please keep doing videos like this Jason. One of the best RUclips car videos I’ve seen in ages. The testarossa/512tr is one of my favorite cars of all time. They drive like a Ferrari Cadillac (kind of disappointing-not very thrilling) but they have some of the most amazing iconic looks of all time. Thank you for making this video!

  • @norwegiantechnolover
    @norwegiantechnolover 4 года назад +4

    0:00 Anyone else hear the director say "action"? :P

  • @RetroCarsForever
    @RetroCarsForever 4 года назад +2

    This was really clever and well done. Really appreciate the effort to tell something new about such an icon!

  • @GarretSterling
    @GarretSterling 4 года назад +3

    The 512 TR still remains one of my favorite cars of all time, I'd like to think that I had exquisite taste as a small child, and you just confirmed it.
    Great video! Now i can go in peace

    • @FAT8893
      @FAT8893 4 года назад

      The same for me. Heck, I'd take the 512 TR over the Testarossa all day. F512M is a big NO-NO, it's too fugly.

    • @E3T7
      @E3T7 4 года назад

      Farhan Ahmad Tajuddin What? I still can’t understand that. The ‘86 Rossa is my favorite car all time and IMO miles better than the 512.

    • @FAT8893
      @FAT8893 4 года назад

      @@E3T7 Visually, the Testarossa and 512 TR are just the same apart from the front lights at the bottom, and that's it. But the 512 TR brings a substantial upgrade to the Testarossa and that is why I like the 512 TR more. It manages to be better without spoiling the look.

    • @E3T7
      @E3T7 4 года назад +1

      Farhan Ahmad Tajuddin I agree internally the TR is superior, but visually the changes are much more obvious than how you describe them. The black paint around parts like the skirts and front bumper (splitter) were removed, the iconic single mirror gone, (in ‘87, but like I said my fav is 84 to 86) as well as those legendary rims replaced. (Other things like wheels as well) That’s not to mention the biggest change with the front bumper you were talking about. The grill was an obvious change along with the lights. I know there’s some people who prefer the look but not me. The idea that the TR is a 90’s car also ruins the atmosphere as well imo. (Don’t get me wrong I love me some 90’s cars, but the best legends are from the 80’s)

  • @wlnmn7217
    @wlnmn7217 4 года назад +2

    Ok, 1st, I saw a number of BB's in the US in the 80's, and I remember them distinctly. A wealthy member of a group of friends hosted the Ferrari club at a catered party in his (large) back yard in suburban Baltimore. There were two BB's there. I saw another parked at a condo in LA. I saw others on the road. But you're saying they were not imported into the US, and weren't (if I understood you) strictly legal in the US. How did they get here? Were they modified for US restrictions? R&T did a comparo of the BB and Contouch in roughly fall of 1986 (I think), and both cars were driven to the test track. BB's weren't offered in the US??? That seems unlikely from what I saw... they were definitely here, so how did they get here?
    2nd, I remember reading an eval of the 550 Maranello in the mid-late 90's, and they said it was incredibly well behaved at the limit, perfectly balanced, and toss-able. They said it was completely predictable at the limit in turns, the best available at the time. I don't remember which magazine, but probably either R&T or Car & Driver. That doesn't jive with the show tourer that you describe.
    I'm not a hater. I've enjoyed your video reviews for years. But I remember these cars, and those years a lot differently. Of course, not being anything close to Hoi Polloi myself, I've never driven them, only saw them and read about them... Am I wrong? Let me know. The edit was to correct Maranello model number from 570(meant 575) to 550 (available in the late 1990s)

    • @nlpnt
      @nlpnt 4 года назад

      Gray-market importing was common and easy enough with sufficient money until the mid-80s when Mercedes lobbied to shut it down and it became illegal to privately import any car newer than 1967 (later changed to the 25-year rolling cutoff we all know and fume about).

  • @jordanbandak7440
    @jordanbandak7440 4 года назад +3

    Love the driving videos at the end!

  • @CalebOrvik
    @CalebOrvik 3 года назад

    I remember reading his Automobile column “Collectible Classic” featuring that Scirocco and all those old cars-time flies!

  • @OEMPlus
    @OEMPlus 4 года назад +11

    UGH 550 maranello one of the most beautiful cars ever.

    • @brandonherrera2891
      @brandonherrera2891 4 года назад +1

      Absolutely! I'd love a manual 550 Barchetta.

    • @FAT8893
      @FAT8893 4 года назад

      Anything before 2000 look great. After that Japanese Ken took control of Ferrari styling, it all looked terrible. I find it ironic since it wasn't the case for Maserati. Remember, the fourth gen Quattroporte with 4.2L V8 was also designed by that Japanese Ken.

    • @longtailgt
      @longtailgt 4 года назад +1

      I agree so much! On Instagram and RUclips you see kids calling the 550 boring and they couldn't be more wrong. I think it's one of the best looking Ferraris ever made and even Ferrari collectors have the same opinion.

  • @marcelpacheco7878
    @marcelpacheco7878 10 месяцев назад

    I watch because of you, not the topics. Your the best.

  • @sid-a794
    @sid-a794 4 года назад +3

    simply, 180 degree engine is call boxer. Amen.

  • @timsgta
    @timsgta 2 года назад

    What about the pedals on the Testarossa being all the way to the right? When I sat in one, it was very uncomfortable having the pedals so close to the tunnel...your thoughts?

  • @cicci0salsicci0
    @cicci0salsicci0 4 года назад +5

    Actually BB stands for berlinetta bi-albero.

    • @retroracingshirt591
      @retroracingshirt591 4 года назад

      officially it stands for Berlinetta Boxer, as the owners manual says...

    • @cicci0salsicci0
      @cicci0salsicci0 4 года назад

      @@retroracingshirt591 The actual Engineer who worked on the car said in an interview that it was bi-albero. Later it was confused.

    • @retroracingshirt591
      @retroracingshirt591 4 года назад

      @@cicci0salsicci0 yes I know

  • @jcb4826
    @jcb4826 Год назад +1

    I love the bb's pure look. More concept car feel but I also usually like early designs like the countach concept's super clean wedge vs later models with all the extra body panels, vents, scoops, wings, intake boxes and aero.

  • @apostolis2939
    @apostolis2939 4 года назад +3

    5:11 Harry Metcalfe can confirm

  • @redtesta
    @redtesta 3 года назад

    ive owned a lot of cars and i just love my testarossa. The presences , the sounds , the smell, the comfort ( with upgrades over the years) make it one of my all time favorites. Thank you for the honest review and great factual information on the history of all the TR.

    • @Tommyblueeyes
      @Tommyblueeyes 3 года назад

      Yet you type like a 3rd grader. I call bullshit.

  • @playtimehulot7383
    @playtimehulot7383 4 года назад

    Intelligent Iconoclasm. That´s what You Tube and it´s tons of car videos need!! Thank you deeply!

  • @The-Alfa-Farm
    @The-Alfa-Farm 3 года назад

    02:12 Oops.. It's not the first and only flat 12. Several years before, Porsche designed flat 12 engines and used them in the 917. Alfa Romeo had the 33SC12 engine that was used in the later Tipo 33 race cars in the early 70's. Great video though. Thanks for your hard work.

  • @UnbiasedBoss
    @UnbiasedBoss 4 года назад

    I love you Jason. Nothing in the automotive industry is better than you rn

  • @PaulStewartAviation
    @PaulStewartAviation 10 месяцев назад

    Omg I’ve just found more Jason Cammisa car videos. Goodbye the next 3hrs and my girlfriend wants to pass on her disregards to him.

  • @billystutz55
    @billystutz55 4 года назад +1

    Good video, very informative. The title had me almost mad lol. Testarossa's were bringing $50k over window in the '80s, thats $117k of todays money. Thats insane!

  • @mayolifor262
    @mayolifor262 4 года назад +1

    Jason,your videos are so beautifully done and presented, so engaging and fascinating that it makes the others feel so humdrum & technical.you are way up there with the best

  • @Carguylogan
    @Carguylogan 3 года назад

    People who are all about their new cars, Mustangs, Challengers etc with auto transmissions are really missing out on a ton of badass cars from the 90s and 2000s. Nothing beats the clean, simple lines of cars from that period and the satisfaction of that click each time you shift gears. My C5 Z has shit interior but it's such a blast to drive. Raw, unadultered driving.

  • @Shockload
    @Shockload 2 года назад

    How this channel not have a million subs already

  • @remingtonsteele3220
    @remingtonsteele3220 4 года назад

    Well done. As someone whose owned all three you are very correct. The Boxer, particularly the 512BBi, is really the best of the bunch if you are looking for something that feels really special when you drive it. It also is aging well and like cream it will rise towards the top. The TR/512 are cool because, especially from the rear, they look like no other car ever made before or since.

  • @chosenideahandle
    @chosenideahandle 3 года назад

    Oh wow cool, I'm a horndog! I asked the former sprinter Ben Johnson if he liked his Testarossa (he did). He turned out to be something different than we expected too.

  • @jasonjcr_cars819
    @jasonjcr_cars819 4 года назад +1

    Jason, I too was worried for a second or two how you were going to pillage my teenage poster car..you nailed it. And just like Harry Metcalfe, you showed me I should not have worried about buying one. I did get the Valium GT car, but I will comeback to the Testarossa soon..
    Keep up the great videos

  • @dustyrusty7956
    @dustyrusty7956 4 года назад

    Jason - thank you for your old-school analysis. It hearkens back to the day when you [and he who will remain nameless] were doing fun videos.

  • @blakslee720
    @blakslee720 4 года назад +1

    Idk what but Jason and RCR need to collaborate on something. Their writing is off the charts!

    • @nathanchildress5596
      @nathanchildress5596 3 года назад

      YES! If RCR didn’t stick to PA/east coast I’d love to see more journalists get weird with them!

  • @aldo5658
    @aldo5658 2 года назад

    Glad I got this channel recommended by a friend

  • @piccalillipit9211
    @piccalillipit9211 3 года назад

    *WHAT AN ASTONISHING* level of production quality 10/10 - you deserve 1m subs if this is your standard...!!!

  • @michaelisaacson9735
    @michaelisaacson9735 Год назад

    Ah...that's the Car & Driver issue with the test of the Alfa Romeo GTV-6, and it's a glowing review. I managed to run one for about five years and loved the car. It was fun!

  • @chrisbouris3699
    @chrisbouris3699 4 года назад

    straight to my top 5 car videos on youtube together with your video with integrale and Ari Vatanen, 1988 Pikes Peak climb

  • @MyGorilla1
    @MyGorilla1 3 года назад

    From France with passion and respect ✌🏼🇨🇵😎

  • @shafferjoe1962
    @shafferjoe1962 2 года назад

    OMG you make me laugh. I love how you describe and say things that no one else would have the balls to say, and you say it with such elegance. Keep up the good work brother.

  • @revmotor
    @revmotor 4 года назад

    This is educational and should be on PBS.

  • @ulrikhgsbro6833
    @ulrikhgsbro6833 Месяц назад

    I'm not going to name names, but in a lot of car videos the narrator seems to be a little too much in love with himself. Not so in your videos, Jason Cammisa. You're sharp and to the point and yet entertaining to watch. Keep them coming.

  • @donatotummillo
    @donatotummillo 4 года назад

    The clips of the Miura driving around a track, that dealership that you guys borrowed video from is in my hometown. Silver Arrow is gonna make a killing off that car, it's gorgeous, and unique af, lime green with blue interior.

  • @boredomarisen
    @boredomarisen 4 года назад

    thanks for fixing the volume difference between the voice over and camera segments.

  • @LapoftheWorld
    @LapoftheWorld 4 года назад

    Guy owns/owned a 308 GT4 and "gets it", also "gets" my dear old NSX, and is clearly a student of the game between this and the MC12 piece (among others). Sure, I'll subscribe. Well done.

  • @Swiftwinter
    @Swiftwinter Год назад +1

    I've learned more about narcotics than the history of Ferrari today. Still great content, informative with just the right amount of humor. 😂

  • @clevelandaeromotive
    @clevelandaeromotive 4 года назад

    Great documentary! This clarifies a lot of the why’s and how’s of late 20th century Ferrari history. Thanks!

  • @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078
    @alexandriaocasio-smollett5078 3 года назад

    7:44... Disclaimer in fine print as lines of blow/Valium are being snorted off back deck lid of a Ferrari Testarossa..
    “Professional idiot. Do not snort Valium.”
    🤣🤣🤣
    Quips like that which reward viewers who pay close attention is one of the reasons why I absolutely adore this channel.

  • @Aqwanermuk
    @Aqwanermuk 3 года назад +1

    I always thought BB actually stood for "Bare Back" because the driving experience was so raw.

    • @bryantbridgewaters7177
      @bryantbridgewaters7177 3 года назад

      Most underrated comment ever lol.

    • @Aqwanermuk
      @Aqwanermuk 3 года назад

      @@bryantbridgewaters7177 Thanks. It's about time about time someone recognizes truth in commentary. 👨‍🏫

  • @bicyclist2
    @bicyclist2 3 года назад

    Harry Metcalfe owns a Testarossa. And drove to a marina with an outboard boat motor and a folding bike in the front. I remember when the Testarossa was new. As a teen I read every car magazine I could get my hands on. As a kid in the 80's I had a 959 on my wall. The Testarossa always seemed less revolution and more evolution. Where as the Countach seemed more revolution than evolution. I used to watch Miami Vice specifically because of the car. In summer 2010' I saw a yellow 512 TR parked on the side of the road. The local milionares in my city tend to drive McLaren's and Lamborghini's. There is one guy with a Ferrari collection but he doesn't have a 512 or a Testarossa. Thanks.

  • @kjadams4996
    @kjadams4996 3 года назад

    What about the f12 and the 599 aren’t those considered mid engine v12 GT cars although they’re“front mounted”?

  • @armchairracer007
    @armchairracer007 4 года назад

    Sometimes God tries to make Adam Sandlers and he mistakenly makes Jason Camissas. You're the best mistake ever Jason! Awesome video!

  • @iulian2548
    @iulian2548 3 года назад

    Great material,it deserves many more views. Thank you!

  • @ttystikkrocks1042
    @ttystikkrocks1042 3 года назад

    This is a great series with an entertaining script and commentator. Really enjoyable!

  • @JohnSkyPatterson
    @JohnSkyPatterson 4 года назад

    great video! your humor is very funny and educational at the same time. excellent delivery for an informative video on the history of these cars! i'm hitting thumbs way up! :)

  • @marcellon2003
    @marcellon2003 4 года назад +1

    Uhm... Mr. Sandler, was the dismissal of the 456 as the first front-engined v12 since the Daytona on purpose?

  • @mpower265
    @mpower265 4 года назад

    Hmmm: “According to engineer Mauro Forghieri, the designation "BB" did not originally mean "Berlinetta Boxer." He stated during an interview with Davide Cironi that they knew the car was not equipped with a Boxer engine. He explained the meaning of the acronym (Berlinetta Boxer) was fabricated by journalists, in reality it means Berlinetta Bialbero (dual camshaft).”