MOTHER Series: What Does "Pollyanna" Mean?
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2018
- I have thought long and hard about the MOTHER trilogy, and I admit this video may be somewhat shallow. The main problem, though, is I lose my cool towards the end. I'm just so passionate about these games I make myself look silly.
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I think Porky fills the hall with "objects of love" and song full of love as a sort of study, or maybe to boast that he has the most love out of everyone, look at these love objects he has. He rips these objects and the song out of context and they become lifeless and shallow. The love isnt a quantifiable thing that's stored in a person or an object, its in relationship between people, but Porky doesnt *get* that. I think he tries to get love by stealing moments from others instead of building relationships, and that is his hubris. He also literally gets shut inside indestructible shell, forever separating himself from others.
Though, the song "Pollyanna" predates Porky/Pokey, from the first NES Mother/Earthbound Beginnings/Zero game.
"love isn't a quantifiable thing that's stored in a person or object" not if you play undertale its not
@minetieplays2092 Depends what kind of love in undertale your talking about
Old comment but I think there's more to this. Porky actually longs for love but is too emotionally immature to understand his own feelings. He's confused by these feelings and acts them out in his own warped way, like his obsession with Ness and Earthbound.
This interpretation also aligns with the ultimately hopeful message of the MOTHER series. Porky, in his attempt to prove humanity is fundamentally evil, is betrayed by his own nature (albeit in a small way).
Porky has Dio syndrome, he wants jonathans body because respect, necessity and to be like a dork. Like he thinks he’s a clever funny bad guy and cool and rubbing salt in the wound but in reality its just pathetic dio/porky trying to reclaim some sense of humanity post power trip/transformation of the “years gone by”
There *is* a Pollyanna motive for Ana, as well.
Ana has been believing that Ninten will show up in her life for the longest time now. She believed that together, they could contribute to a greater purpose. She didn't know this boy, yet she naively trusted him with giving her life a purpose.
What surprises me even more is that it's sung by a 14 year old girl
yeah she sounds like she's in her 30s
Really? Wow, I didn't know that.
It just occurred to me that porky keeping all the stuff from earthbound is a side of him that secretly cherishes his memories with ness, similar to him keeping his yoyo in his treasure room in the thunder tower. Pollyanna in that room can be viewed as either ironic or genuine depending on the lens its viewed through.
2 words: Under. Rated.
8:55 proof that Ness's dad is a phone
Makes sence
I always saw Pollyanna playing in Paula’s house a sign of Ness feeling at home with the family after Paula’s rescue and their show of appreciation. I’d feel different if it had been playing the entire time.
I just made a startling discovery! The Two 2nd characters of Mother 1 and Earthbound are Ana and Paula, if you mix the names it makes Paula-ana. Which is really close to the word Pollyanna!
Wow! I never noticed that, thats incredible good job!
In Mother 1/Earthbound Beginnings Lloyd is the 2nd Character .
@@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther- You can get Ana before Lloyd if you try hard enough, and i think he is talking about the order you name them in the beginning.
I think Porky's version in M3 is supposed to sound like a charmless hall of fame cover-band version, with those corny drums and overall sound.. reflects the clean and sanitized room containing just a bunch of objects pulled from their context and history, on parade for his own enjoyment.
I feel like an important part of mother 3's Pollyanna is that it is pointless.
The only person Porky has faith in is Ness, who he betrayed. His hope is that Ness will join him because of how much he considers him a friend. He's grasping at a past that won't happen. He betrayed others and destroyed his second chance thoroughly. Porky is trying to get you to sympathize with him by calling upon nostalgia, but you're reminded at the end of who he is and what he's done.
Wait no that makes so much sense-
Note what the song starts with: "I believe the morning sun, Always gonna shine again, and,"
The baseline is something we know is completely true and reliable.
So we know that there is good in humanity as long as the sun still rises (which, humanity wouldn't survive if it didn't so it's practically always true)
This needs to be seen by the mother community.
Awww, you! Flattering me like that.
@72 i think I wrote this comment 2 years ago, likely already has been posted there
Now *DAT’S* a good song. Also, the lyrics were originally sung by a 14 year old girl. Can you believe that! it’s so good?
Catherine Warwick was absolutely the right choice to sing those songs.
I wonder, did you read the Pollyanna books and watched the anime before you made this video? I actually started looking at the book and the anime in January because was so interested what Pollyanna means. In the book, a lot of adults have lost their happiness and Pollyanna wants to remind them of their happiness by using the glad game. The roses in the book weren't explained into much detail, in the anime the symbolism is "Love". The Disney version is very different from the books, but I know that the anime very faithful to the book. It would be best if you read the book because the anime is pretty slow unless if you enjoyed the book then you should be okay watching it.
Pollyanna did have a sequel called Pollyanna: Grows up, there's a lack of adaptations but for some reason the anime doesn't adapt the last half of the book where she becomes an adult. I will go into more detail if any of you are interested. I would have to make a video because there's more to talk about compared to how much you explained in the video because there are themes that you didn't go into detail about. The video doesn't reference the book that much, instead you mainly use the song as a reference for your video so it doesn't answer that much about the meaning of Pollyanna.
SPOILERS for the Pollyanna.
The end of the book was one of my favorite parts, she loses her ability to walk and she becomes stuck in the bed for months. The people in the book are reminded of the faith she had in other people which she had lost at the time. This scene is pretty similar to the end of EarthBound where Ness' friends and loved ones he has met throughout his journey has helped him defeat Giygas.
I read the original novel some years ago. My memory is that it's fine. But I don't think the novel itself is really relevant to the MOTHER series. I talked about it rather to explain the literal origin of the word "Pollyanna." The video isn't meant to be about what the actual novel Pollyanna means.
But I don't think I'd have ever thought to compare the ending of Pollyanna to the ending of EarthBound. That could be an interesting idea.
Mother (unfortunately) never had an anime.
I bet it’s based on that girl who believed crazy stuff and was quote “crazy as a loon, because she believed in friends and magic”
?
I love that song :,)
I would actually think that, in Mother/Earthbound Beginnings,
This is targeted at Giegue, from his *Mother, suggesting that she still believes in her adopted son, knowing well what he has done.
In Earthbound/Mother 2...
I have no idea, really.
And in Earthbound 2/Mother 3, it may be Pokey/Porky, remembering the only friend he ever had, Ness, the only one that showed him kindness...
...Until he accidentally shunned him by being a silent protagonist...
...Also, about the part about Porky probably killing Ness and his cohorts and stealing the objects,
He could've just gone back to a point after the heroes would've encountered and/or needed said objects or the individiuals.
Not to mention, if Pokey killed them before they stopped Giygas, then Mother 3 wouldn't have happened.
Ooohh! I like that idea about Mother. That's better than my lazy read. But I don't think Porky believes in Ness anymore by Mother 3.
I didn't say Porky killed Ness and and company, I said he might have killed Tessie and Dungeonman.
I think in EarthBound/MOTHER 2, it's Ness talking to Pokey. Throughout the game, no matter how badly he treats Ness, no matter how many horrible things he does, Ness still wants to believe that Pokey will come around and be a good person again like he used to be before his corruption became too deep. Throughout the game there are little moments where Pokey acts like he wants to be friends again, only to turn and mock Ness further, making fun of his willingness to believe that Pokey can change. And in Magicant, Ness finds Pokey again, a mental imprint of Ness's undying hope that Pokey will change and return to his old self again; a good self, even if somewhat annoying. This also gives further weight to the fact that you hear a snippet of Pollyanna play as you leave Pokey's house, which is when the adventure truly begins. Ultimately, the entire game could be considered to really about Pokey's betrayal and his darkening character arc.
Literally every time I listen to Pollyanna, I cry like a lot. I don’t know why, I just do.
It makes me cry years if joy often
"I still believe in miracles, I swear I've seen a few"
my sister literally calls me pollyanna irl, for years I never understood why. this song made me feel more confident in who I was and am.
The ending to Mother 3 isn't really ambiguous. You get Kumatora (and I think Duster) telling you everything is okay.
Sure, but the ending sequence is so surreal that it could be a dream sequence or the afterlife, or simply not meant to be interpreted literally.
For me this song is a call to action. It's a pledge to take the difficult path (talking to/understanding/helping people in this world, even if they've hurt you) as opposed to the easy way out (giving up on people and becoming just as hurtful and cynical and your bullies). This song inspires me whenever I'm struggling to connect to others in my service work. It's extremely relevant to my life.
This was...really, really good. I admit I had never given much thought to the song, despite enjoying it greatly, but you gave such a poignant, well thought-out idea. I appreciate the nuance in this series - and the supporting media - even more, now. Thank you so much!
Oh my. The depth in Pollyanna is real!
I will say this, mother 3 has 2 takes on its ending, being the world ending with the characters communicating after their death (perhaps in the afterlife) and the other ending simply being that they somehow magically saved the world, which personally I think is the way we're supposed to take the ending since as the song we hear at the beginning of our first journey, and at the end of our last one says... we should believe in it even if we know it's unlikely.
There's an early cutscene in Xenosaga where someone refers to the main character (IIRC) as "Pollyanna." I didn't know what that meant at the time, but the condescending tone of voice and context of the scene heavily suggests they are accusing them of being naive or blindly optimistic.
*reads title*
It means I believe in you!
warning accepted, im out
lmao, you finished yet?
@@broccolinyu911 mother 1 is hard. Give him some time
have you finished it
listen to glitchymutt bro mother 1 is hard
@@marzi4605 it is hard but its like 10-15 hours long it shouldnt take him a year
Literally every time I listen to Pollyanna, I cry like a lot. I don’t know why, I just do. So I don’t listen to it as much as I want to.
I wish mother 3 told us what happened after Lucas pulled the final needle instead of just saying “don’t worry there fine”
I'd like to assume at the end of Mother 3, the world is remade to it's state before it was destroyed, and Ness, Ninten, All their friends, and Lucas and his friends, Hinawa, Claus, and all of humanity is revived, and the world is cleansed of evil.
That's what I think as well.
Loyd and Teddy are relatable for me because I also too believe people can be sadistic and evil because I've
experience bullying and seen a lot of douchebags before. Despite that I still can meet good people like my friends, and you know how Loyd meet Ness.
"I don't know what the heck all this stuff is, but I'm vibing to the music." -Lucas on the boat, probably.
After looking at the view count, I'm so disappointment in the mother community...
Come on, this video is very through and informative. Thanks for making this!
Edit: After watching this to the end, I can safely say this is one of the best discussion/ introspection videos I've seen in a good while.
First time I watched this, with a new perspective of the song, I listened to Pollyanna again and it made me cry. Thank you for doing this and thanks for the mother series to actively make me and others to live by its messages
Also I figure it’s the song of a mother for her son, namely the protagonist. It’s not a happy song. She has three children, and her husband has left. The protagonist is now the only man in the house. He shouldn’t have to fill that role, and he’s only a child. But the mother sings that she believes in him, and has hope in him, and loves him.
Also I thought of the Virgin Mary expressing these sentiments to the adolescent Jesus after they lost Joseph.
Please play EarthBound and MOTHER 3 on your channel, Phones. Please. It's my favorite series and I need to hear your thoughts as you go through the games. I want your brilliant perspective shone upon my favorite games so that I may find new things to think about and appreciate within them.
I agree, I like MPs commentary. It's quirky, soothing, conversational and weirdly profound in a moderately unpretentious and sincere way.
@@dcr7119 I'd love that, but there's frankly not as much to comment on in that game as there is in the other two. He'd have to trim it down with editing and just comment over the parts that have something worth talking about
In Brazil there's a TV Novel based on Pollyanna, and this novel is so bizarre
I quite enjoy this video and I always come back to it! Awesome work!
This song means a lot to me because there were many times I felt hopeless yet I have had people who had great optimism, both Ninten and I have a lot in common. To this day, I really love the song and the games to this day.
It's such a beautiful and strange song
1:53 Whenever I hear this I remember Korone screaming in joy when she heard it
POLLYANNA MEANING:an optamistic and overly cheery person
Beautiful and entirely correct. It is sad that the games are so underappreciated since they have so much to offer in terms of lessons and in enjoyment.
Feels weird that the Mayor of Mother 1 tells you that you got Tiger droppings on your clothes. I mean, come on, Ninten is just a kid
The few seconds of gymnopedie no 1 in the beginning. :)
this is a really great theory, but...
*G E E G*
Lol I'm genuinely confused how its meant to be said
Geeg?
Guyg?
Gigu?
*Geeguygigue?*
that's Giygas' name in Japanese "Gyiyg"
That's close to the japanese pronounciation actually, it's "gee-gu" , basically
Every game does end with love winning after all, huh? That one was powerful, great video
Wonderful, wonderful analysis.
This is a fantastic video man
Additionally: *Geeg*
Great video. Great message. Love the Mother series.
Nintendo needs to see this.
11:28 ...So, it’s Florida?
This is a very well made video, and I agree with your conclusion.
The “you” is probably the world, because when Lucas pulled the final pin he gave up hope, and the world finally ended.
You're right, all stories deserve some happy endings sprinkled in there, even if it doesn't reflect the real world.
The last verses of the song are also dark, least to me.
“I believe there’ll come a day
Maybe it will be tomorrow
When the blue bird flies away
All we have to do is follow.”
A blue bird is a symbol of joy and happiness so if it’s flying away, that means something terrible is happening and that the person sings this knows that something terrible will happen, but still believes wholeheartedly that the person/situation causing the problems will get better.
This video was fantastic
BTW it gtoes deeper than that:
the earthbound series is called Mother in japan, in reference to the Jhon Lennon's song Mother, witch tells his relationship with, well, his mother, who despite the neglet, he forgive her.
I loved this video!!!
Great video, earned you a sub.
Thank you.
don't expect great videos too often though
thank god now i know what Catherine Warwick was meaning by "You can call me Pollyanna, say i'm crazy as a loon".
nice video! i can tell you put good effort into. :)
Thanks.
Paula and Ana are the names of two of Ness's and Ninten's companions. Pollyanna?
I always saw the lyrics being directed at Giegue
OH MY GOSH ITS YOU!
The person who originally posted all the cutscenes of The Neverhood!
Edit: I have played Earthbound a little bit, so I guess that I am able to watch this
It's not a coincidence that the two games are alike, Earthbound exists partially as the actual release of Mother 1, since that was never officially released in North America until the rom had already been dumped in a beta cart.
That was so interesting that when the video was finished, I told myself "What the heck I'm not even at the half of the video!"
1:09 The MOTHER album was organized by Keiichi Suzuki, but the lyrics are performed by Catherine Warwick for Pollyanna, Bein' Friends, and Wisdom of the World. One of these two people made the lyrics, though my guess is Keiichi Suzuki because he had to write the lyrics for the St. Paul's Cathedinal Choir, and Catherine Warwick, being English, probably knew nothing about MOTHER at the time considering it wasn't localized. Hirokazu Tanaka definitely had nothing to do with the album at all. In fact, I'm pretty sure he did more of the technical stuff in the sound design, not quite composition.
The person who would be responsible for the lyrics for the Mother album would be Linda Hennrick.
She was brought in very early in the process of the development of Mother (before they even started programming the game). They wanted the lyrics to be in English because the album was originally intended for a global release, but it was canceled at the last second never making it out of Japan till 2015 when Ship to Shore gave it an official western release.
pollyanna is the most fire diss track in existance
Thank you!
Well done
The Super Smash Bros ultimate version of the song is used in Epic minigames on roblox
"Pollyanna" Means "I'm crazy as a loon"
It does not matter if you know the story or not mother games are always good even after playing 10 times
Awesome wow
Groovy.
DO SNOWMAN NEXT!
I didn't realize that. What DOES that mean?
What's the first song that plays at the start of the video
Gymnopédie No. 1
One thing I've wondered. Are the lyrics official or fan made?
Idk if this was mentioned by anyone, but the singer may also simply be referring to Ninten himself as someone who has shown someone maybe shouldn't believe in him. There was a novel of the Mother 1 story, and from what little I saw of it, they portrayed Ninten as kinda a jerk at the start and through a lot of the story.
yes
where are all the views and likes?
This just gave me a second view on life
Wellllll now I’m just depressed. Thanks.
Whats the music at the beginning?
Gymnopédie No. 1
The reason "Goodman" and "Pirckle" are similar characters is because theyre the same person.
Mother 1 is just earthbound but less well made.
Same enemies, music, story, final boss, protagonists, etc
no it isnt. earthbound is mother 2, the prequel to mother (1), not a remake. earthbound happens many years after mother 1
also in mother 1. there is no pokey or porky
@@lukemarcottiribeiro8418but both are still pretty much similar.
Woah...! The Mother series is dark.
goddamn
I pla all three at least twice a yar
I love MOTHER series + UNDERTALE (I'm not a fan of the cringey au side, I only love the games not the bad side of the fandom.)
I figure all of porky’s relics are replicas
Me: You know the Mother Series
My Friend: *YoU mEaN tHe EaRtHbOuNd SeRiEs?*
It's still valid
It's the same thing...
10/11/2020 6:40 pm
Es bellisima
Does it mean Crazy? Crazy as a loon? Does it mean to believe...
*IN SILVER LININGS AND THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE IN YOU-*
Yes
Please stop trying to pronounce Giegue
ギーグ
@@mackerelphones giigu