I tried it and unfortunately it's not worth the money. The portions are just way too small. And many of the dishes were way too salty for my liking. I forgot to add the worst part I'm adding this as an edit. To even see what their menu options were you have to sign up with a credit card. Was forced to pay for the first delivery even though all I wanted to do was just look at their menu
Apologies for abusing your post, sent you several emails in the past and you mentioning your bugbear of speed cameras reminded me of one I sent not too long ago. It was a story about an "innovation" that they've introduced in Spain, would have thought it was right up your street. I've wondered if my emails might have ended up in your spam folder, or if I've just done a bad job of getting your attention...
@@YenRugYou have to provide your CC info before you can even see the menu? I won't even bother looking, then. I'm looking to order a few months of meals for two soon-to-be parents with a baby due in under a month. I've used Home Chef myself, but I am specifically looking for a plan that doesn't require any cooking. Factor was on my list to check out. But, if I can't see the full menu, ACTUAL menu, I'll pass. I plan to use a gift card cc because I often have trouble cancelling subscriptions. Thanks for your input!
They already turn on their lights just long enough to go through an intersection during non-emergencies. That would make them keep their lights on full time.
That is why it is a system you can override (by pressing harder on the pedal, or ignoring the sound) Also you can turn it off, but you will have to disable it every time you start the car. Even if you could not disable it, having the annoying sound will have to do while driving away from that tornado 🙃
@FrederickGrumieaux every second counts so just pushing harder when it starts to slow down might be the difference between survival and a lawsuit from your survivors
@@ConstantChaos1 this will not slow you down a single second. Those beeps etcetera already are used for seat bells and my car already gives haptic feedback for crossing lines or when I get to close to the car before me. And they can be ignored or overriden in the blink of a moment. The only thing I don't like to use is the speed limiter option, because that one may take to long to turn off in a sudden emergency. The only thing you can say about such a system is that it will be annoying as hell. Which I guess is the point...
I worked a job a decade ago where I had to drive a carpool van full of coworkers to a job site by way of an interstate highway. The speed of the van was GPS monitored and would make a beep and send a notification to my bosses if I went over the speed limit. The thing is, there was a VERY specific point on the highway where the GPS would glitch out and report that I was driving over 100mph. My bosses and I had a huge laugh one time when I got called into their office about it. There was a stop and go traffic jam that day and according to the GPS report, I somehow went from 5mph to 110mph and back down to 5mph in the span of 5 seconds. I joked about getting workman's comp for the whiplash.
Theyll still get their money. You can limit a car to 90 mph and still get a ticket on any road in USA. you could limit them to 80 and get a ticket on the vast majority of traveled roads. You could limit it to 50 and get a ticket in basically every town center and city. Etc.
If this comes, it needs to be not only on "civilian" cars, but on government cars as well. There is absolutely no reason the governor needs to be driven at 90 miles an hour to his next meeting.
Federal cars already have limiters--at least the ones I have driven did. It's been a few years, but I believe our cars would basically stop accelerating at around 85 or 90 mph.
Gotta love the air quality excuse too. Its all the speeders causing issues, not the fact that they've shut down all their nuclear plants and went back to coal/fossil...
Nothing wrong with fossil fuels. The earth never stops producing fossil fuels. What would your life be like without oil and petroleum products? It's used for 99% of everything around you, including your shoes. Anything plastic is petroleum based. Fossil fuels are the Earth's natural compost, and it's extremely plentiful.
The faster a car runs, the better the fuel burns. That is why they make more fuel economy on freeways. Getting up to the speed uses more fuel. But, once there, the vehicle will burn fuel far cleaner.,
@@cuoresportivo155 it has never mattered if it was "accidental" or not, hell it doesn't even matter if you're speeding to the hospital! they don't care about your safety, this new law isn't about safety
I have a relatively new vehicle in the US... In my car the dashboard displays the max speed after passing a speed limit sign. It also displays the max speed when passing the signs for HWY 20 as 20 mph, Hwy 100 as 100 mph and Hwy 180 as 180 mph. I have zero faith in a system like this. While 100 or 180 mph isn't a problem, suddenly getting a ticket for doing 20 mph in a 55 zone would be... or, the car telling your insurance carrier that you were going 35 mph over the speed limit and raising your rates would be.
Exactly. Attorney Rafi (here on RUclips) did a video about how he and his wife rented a car in Italy with this system. It beeped every time it thought you were speeding. It got it wrong the majority of the time. We DO NOT need this system.
Truck driver here, currently in a rental truck that has one of those things that tells you what it thinks the speed limit is. It "helpfully" informed me that the speed limit on I35 in Texas is 20 MPH... or so it thinks.
Eaxctly. Consider all the bullshit you might have to endure due to a false reading or otherwise failed electronic piece that misreports you to law enforcement or insurance.
Makes me think of a past office mate. Whenever the tech would fail, she’d roll her eyes and say, “Technology. A blessing when it works, a curse when it doesn’t.” 😂
Sounds like a Kenworth. I have one that tells me it's a 20MPH in school zones at 0300 and lists 55MPH highways at 35. Almost as reliable as the CMS (Collision Mitigation System) Which will lock the brakes when it detects the 15' 6" overpass and give me alarms for them deadly traffic lights overhead.
A speed limiter (or remote tracking or a number of other things) would be an *EXCELLENT WAY* to get me to buy a used car, and never invest in a new car again. I'm old, so I can do that. 🙂
meh, it'll be like seatbelts, and the 55 mph speed limit... everybody will grumble for a little bit, and then we'll all get used to it. I am in fact already used to it, since all of my companies vehicles are speed limited. not quite to that extent, it's more of a speed cap with consequences than a speed limiter. I mean honestly, the net result anyway is losing about 15 minutes over 3 hours of highway driving (comparing actual ETA at 65 to GPS ETA which probably assumes 75 mph)... which isn't exactly earth-shattering, nor worth extra risk associated with the faster speed
Truck driver here: I just wanted to point out that there are governors in every single semi truck. Only the company has the authorization to change what that Governor is set to. Some companies limit trucks to 65 some companies limit trucks to 70. This would really only affect owner operators.
One of the major reasons why I went O/O. Even then, my truck came off the dealer lot set to 72mph. The first thing I did was drive to a Cummins shop and have them disable it.
When everyone is stuck behind a truck going 65 trying to pass another truck going 64 the average person will realize why slow speed governing Is a bad idea.
Government is planning of banning international combustion engines if Harris gets in she will ban everything that has a piston including air pumps. I am going to vote straight Trump to save this land from communism take over.
My car does it on a turn. Seriously, the road curves and my car sees the guy in the other lane next to me as "in front of me" and tries to brake. That's honestly going to kill someone someday!
Very very dangerous. Arbitrarily limiting the cars' speed is also dangerous AF. You'll try to pass a semi and be sitting in its blind spot for ten minutes.
Yep, my vehicle can’t tell the difference between a vehicle impact less than a second away, and vehicles turning not on a collision path at all. I’d have my brakes lock up and get rear ended about once a month if my “smart collision detection” had control over my brakes.
I got rear-ended driving home from the eclipse because the car I was in thought I wasn't braking fast enough and decided to brake about as hard as it could. There was nothing I could do to stop it. Absolutely bullshit feature.
As a former safety officer with a discipline in drivers training and ground accidents I can tell you these speed limitors are extremely dangerous. There are many times the driver needs power and speed immediately to avoid unsafe predicaments. Especially if the traffic is c becomes congested. This happens so often that most of the time it's unnoticeable. If speed limitors are installed you can damn sure expect a lot more fatalities to include the death of children.
You can't be serious. This isn't about limiting power or acceleration. I'm certain that there would be a lot more deaths, especially of children, caused by speeding, than deaths caused by not being able to speed. The fact is that most people who speed don't do it to avoid accidents. They cause them. There is also the fact that apparently these limiters can be overridden by pressing hard on the accelerator. You can still accelerate as hard as you want to avoid an accident. You just have to put up with your car chiming at you, or reducing your speed unless you're punching it. If you're driving over the speed limit they cut in unless you jam your foot to the floor to 'avoid an accident'.
I don't want any piece of equipment that I own and operate to do any "thinking" for me. Any machine that can take away my control while operating it is a gateway to something bad, and I will do anything and everything in my power to make sure I don't own it or use it.
@@joe-s5rits a chilling effect. Next thing they will limited power/acceleration. Crash avoidance tech already can affect power/acceleration and can override driver decision such as turning the wheel too fast at a certain speed....what if that decision crashes you to into a ditch but saves you from a head-on fatal collision? Emergencies are emergencies for a reason but the option should be there for full, unfettered control of a vehicle. In an emergency milliseconds can matter - can't wait to "authorize" to remove tech limitations on a vehicle
This was my first thought when he started talking about it. Like you, I have a risk management background. There are times where acceleration or braking literally can make the difference between life and death. You shouldn't be having to fight with your car while also fighting for your life. Really, it's something I learned when I first started driving at 15 and we bought a little bigger motorcycle than was legal so we knew the bike could get out of its own way. My dad has a risk management background, too. Go figure.
@@patfrederick7327not that easy. Many vehicles have built in gps for the infotainment system so you can’t just remove it unless want to re engineer the systems.
What? You mean it isn’t just government protecting of from any possible harm but it’s a big corporation forcing us to buy something they thought up? Unbelievable!
"the speed limit is fifty kilometres per hour, the speed limit is fifty kilometres per hour, on and on and on" Very annoying so I am just waiting for the day when a truck slams on the brakes on a major freeway because it thinks I am in the adjacent school zone. Had it happen when a car was parked on the side of a road going through a chicane. A different truck was forever giving collision warnings on empty roads in the rain.
What happens if you have an emergency and trying to get a loved one to the ER, or you are trying to get away from someone trying to harm you and your car slows down.
@@m_bored7133 "Did you Watch the Video?" All of the "limiters" are totally ignorable. Its a notification system, not an actual governor. (we had those in the military)
@@redwolfexr Gotcha, thanks. I have to put up with the system in Freightliners. They have a screen that shows road speed and following distance. They also like to brake check for a random overhead sign or on a curved ramp with reflectors on the edge of the curve. I'm waiting for the day it sends me into the ditch on ice.
I rarely see anyone driving recklessly due to speeding. In fact most people drive over the speed limit. What is more of a safety hazard is people driving slower than everyone in the left lane, running red lights, not using turn indicators, cutting in front of someone, and just generally not paying attention to the road. "Speeding" is the least of the concerns.
A test was done on a 4 lane highway where 4 cars took the front of a pack and set cruise control to 55mph. It caused mayhem and destruction behind. If everyone has to go the same speed, we will see huge traffic jams on highways and accident rate will increase.
The NHTSA has convinced people for years that speed is the leading cause of accidents. It is not. It may be a contributing factor, but is seldom the PCF (Primary Collision Factor).
Don’t forget three systems increase the cost of the car while increasing failures that will stop the car from running. Modern cars are becoming increasingly unreliable as massive amounts of technology are used at no benefit to the consumer where a single system failure causes a breakdown.
Not to mention these cars are already gathering data about you and sending it back to the manufacturer, insurers, and the government. With as much as all this garbage adds to the cost of the car, the user sees no real benefit from it (monetarily or otherwise). If anything, the government and the manufacturers should be subsidizing the costs to the end users for the invasion of privacy.
I was driving in the Middle East / Jordan in the late 90s where cars had an alert beeper that activated at 120km/hr / 75mph. It was beeping the entire time we drove 50 miles out in the desert , in the middle of nowhere. 25+ years this has been a thing.
I recall hearing of a studyout of sweden years ago showing that if everyone drives at the same speeds, traffic gets very easily backlogged but if about 15% of people drive 5-10% faster, everything flows much more smoothly, especially when lane etiquet is maintained. Speed patrolling and speed limiting are not the right approach.
you, it also causes accidents, road rage, and more, speaking from personal experience, speed limiters cause accidents and put people at risk. There are times when you need to speed to pass or to get out of the way of an accident. They also cause traffic congestion when two cars can't pass one another on the freeway.
I've found on a motorcycle that when I travel at the speed limit people never notice me since I blend in to traffic so well. As a result I deal with a lot more people cutting me off and nearly hitting me. If I maintain around 5-10% above the speed limit I'm something changing in the environment and as a result face _far_ fewer disruptions. Additionally I have a far better chance to find dead spots in traffic where nothing is around to hit me. Study tracks with my own experience.
@@mawnkey I had a close call.last week merging onto a highway where a whole SUV was able to hide in a blindspot. Too far up for rearview, too far back for side mirror or peripheral vision. Didn't help that the driver paced me instead of pulling forward or falling back. A little motorbike can be downright invisible, even to fairly attentive drivers.
I don’t believe that. It just sounds more like a correlation between traffic jams causing everyone to go at the same speed while normal flowing traffic has some people going faster.
My dad had a car that had that system built in. He was going down the highway at 65. There was an off ramp speed sign saying 35. His car thought it was for the highway and slamed on the breaks to slow him down to 35. It almost caused an accident. My dad took it to the dealership and had them disable it. So who would be responsible for and accident caused by an problem with the system?
So it's already happening. Wonderful. I figured these systems would have to start getting old and decrepit before they got that bad. My father was a software engineer, so I was raised with "don't put your life in the hands of a computer". At least with fly-by-wire, it's triple- or quadruple-redundant. I doubt they bother putting three computers with three separate sets of sensors, all cross-checking each other, into a car. (Not cross-checking from different sensors is what crashed two 737-MAX jets, as well. The extra sensor was an "option").
Yep. Tesla FSD has this problem as well. It just sees something -- phantom red light, phantom emergency lights, etc, and slows down. But the bigger concern to me is that grandma will forget the speed limit, her car will start vibrating or whirring, and she'll freak out trying to understand what's happening and....get in an accident. That's WAY more likely than drivers understanding what the car is telling them and obeying.
Sounds like a stupid implementation; the EU mandated one discussed in the video would, at most, decelerate gradually rather than slamming on the brakes.
my dad drives a semi and some of them has power limiters on them to keep you from going too fast, problem is they limit the power you need to climb hills also LOL so the engine gets to bog and strain to pull hills or quickly get up to highway speed to merge, they also have collision avoidance systems that slam on the brakes at shadows and falling snow
I drove a freightshaker that had the stupid avoidance system in it, and yes it would occasionally hit the brakes hard when going under metal bridges. Not fun, very scary.
@@patfrederick7327 Try the brand new '24 Intertrashional LTs and be prepared to witness it in action. When you exit on the off ramp it'll detect the sign as an unavoidable collision and will lock your brakes up on occasion.
@@patfrederick7327I work for a large over the road trucking company. We have over 1 thousand trucks on the road. All are equipped with a radar system that will lock the breaks to avoid a potential collision. I have personally had the breaks lock up on a Freightliner because the system thought railroad tracks were another vehicle. These systems are now better now then they were. But I still hate them.
Governors don't necessarily limit the power if they limit the speed. The two are controlled independently. Often, companies will buy higher horsepower engines, because they are able to get more money for them when they sell them, but they will limit them. I drove for a company that put 800 cat engines in the trucks, but limited them to 600hp. Another tidbit is, all semi trucks built in at least the last few decades have governors. It's part of the electronic control system. Nothing stops a company from raising the limit to the point that it may as well not be governed though.
Here is my big concern about this. I’ve done some traveling around this country mainly east coast and I’ve seen some traffic coming out of some of these big cities (I 95 out of DC comes to mind) where if you drove the speed limit you would cause a wreck. This to me is not a safe idea. I feel that this could get a lot of people hurt if not killed. Another big concern is what if you was a first responder on a volunteer fire department?Sometimes every second counts and you’re on your way to an emergency somewhere and you feel safe to drive 62 but the speed limit is 55. This just doesn’t sound fair. We need to keep this technology out of our automobiles.
Me and my dad built my first vehicle, a 1980 chevy luv with a V8. Someone asked him about turning loose a 16yr old with such a vehicle. He just smirked and said “Oh, I took care of that. He won’t know what this truck can do until I think he is ready for it.” Well, turns out he adjusted the bolt that was mounted to the firewall underneath the gas pedal. There used to be quite a few vehicles that were produced with these. It didn’t take me long to discover what was limiting the performance. So when I would leave the house I would pull in somewhere and remove the bolt and then coming home would stop down the road and replace it. Good times.
My dad did something similar to that with the vacuum secondaries, but he also left it in place most of the time even when he was driving it around town on errands, either to try to disguise it further or the fuel saving. When I studied how the various rods & levers worked, I was able to remove the spring he used to hold the top flap closed, thus locking out the secondaries (like when the choke was on). Driving a 5L V8 on the primaries alone felt like a 4 cylinder. I think he probably realised I that I had worked it out based on the mileage and how much fuel I was using, because one day I pulled over to remove it, and it wasn’t there. It didn’t make a return until my brothers started driving, and by then I had my own car(s).
That's awesome! That's what we need again in the US are small pickups like that. The V8 just adds to the versatility making it good for both work and play. 😁
I took a small bus once with this feature built in. It was annoying AF. Basically, when it hit the limited speed, the engine would automatically lower. But since the driver didn't change the pressure on the gas pedal, it would immediately speed back up. So for sixty minutes or so, the whole bus was rocking forward and backward as it alternated between accelerating and decelerating at a period of about five seconds.
Inexperienced driver or bad bus, I drive a transit bus and this is only an issue on the freeway and what you do is adjust your foot on the gas to keep it right at the limit so it doesn't cut out. It can be a trick as every bus can be a little different, some certainly can jerk more than others when the power cuts out.
I drove a motorcoach for a company that limited the fleet between 66 and 67 mph. Kind of annoying when traveling state to state in a group of 3 or more buses, you'd have to slow down for the slow guy who could never catch up. Since 'foot on the floor' was the default cruise control, we never really used it on the highway. Plus, the indicator on the dash was super super bright. It was interesting to learn that the speed limiter only worked on the throttle - going downhill, you could easily get the bus up to 80mph without realizing it.
can you imagine being in a dangerous situation passing someone (a slow moving vehicle for example ... from Wisconsin!) only to need to put the pedal down fast and then the car stops the move and makes it a thousand times more dangerous? The systems could make you distracted while in a dangerous situation. I hope this doesn't take until safer way is possible
@@Born_Stellar Well for one thing, measuring WHEN and how OFTEN you override it can be used to ticket you, if you're for example overriding it 70% of the time, instead of 0.1% of the time in rare emergencies.
They can't stop people in town there are other people there who could witness the interaction. What happens if they pull over the mayor for running a stop sign with a dozen pedestrians around any of which could film them.
@@elizd9952 our interstates allow police and sheriff of nearby areas to patrol and issue speeding tickets. I guess their share their “cherry patches” as I see State police within city limits with radar guns
Definitely not a joke, in my opinion. Control IS the goal. Just watched the movie Equilibrium, with Christian Bale(Free on Prime)....we are heading in that direction. I will join/form, "the Resistance"
@@schaind11 The only way your car will work is if you have a special chip implanted in your forehead or right hand. All of the VIN numbers will end in 666.😈🔥👹
@@ryanj.hanson6920that actually works. I had a really old pickup, a '54 GMC, and I mounted a lamp housing with an aircraft landing light in it on top of the cab at above the rear window. It was ostensibly to illuminate the bed of the truck, but it was an adjustable mount, and it was controlled by a toggle switch I mounted in the dashboard. It did a great job!
First get rid of the tailgaters. Above all else! The Autobahn is statistically safer than US interstates yet it has no speed limit. The reason for this is that they heavily police tailgating and aggressive driving and also have technology to detect tailgating.
My 2014 BMW i3 built in 2013 has the version that slows you down. It is a car built for the US market! It only does it when you are in "ECO PRO" mode. When you reach 56MPH (Standard maximum speed limit in Germany) the car will stop accelerating and slow you down to 56MPH. You can bypass it by releasing pressure on the pedal and then quickly pushing back down. It's kind of annoying. The car also has Speed limit data built into the navigation. There are also special cameras in the rear-view mirror that can isolate and identify speed limit signs. It will display the speed limit signs it reads on the dash board. Sometimes it reads a route number sign and gets confused lol.
2:10 Steve, they want to "empower new mobility systems", not "empower _people_ with new mobility systems." It's the system that they will empower. I suspect it's another way of saying "we're going to push everyone onto public transport whenever and wherever possible."
Mr Lehto, I work as a technician in a large LTL trucking company, trucks do have limiters, owners can set it up, even password protected, the company I work for limit their truck 65mph and 70mph depending on the region.
@@joesmith9216 Hardly. Now take away cell phones or close down Amazon and Ikea.... There's your war. Or in the land of abundant cellulite, maybe tax people by the pound....
Well, I've seen my GPS say the speed limit of the road I'm on is 65, when in fact it's 75. So, if they are going to base this off GPS, they got a lot of work to do on it.
GPS speed limits have to be regularly updated to be any good. North America, for its size has literally millions of miles that speed limits would have to be monitored.
I'm an off roader. I was on a gravel road in Cherokee national Forest in North Carolina a couple months ago and gps told me the speed limit was 65. 😂 I had a little bit of fun putting it in 2wd and second gear and then hitting the gas getting my rear end to swing out a bit going around curves (when I knew it was safe) but definitely didn't try to do the (obviously wrong) speed limit the Android Auto thought that road had.
Steve, love your videos: In the early 80s, as a young single woman, I had a male driver playing cat and mouse with me on a moderately busy freeway. He was trying to get me off the road, making gestures, pointing to take exits, and so on. Luckily, I lost him in traffic by speeding up and then losing myself in the crowd. If I had a limiter that slowed down my car, I might not have been able to get away from this jerk. Sometimes, you have to gun it for your own safety!
Cars slowing you down would remove a lot of state revenue from tickets. They won't let that happen. But having your own car write you a ticket without having to pay all the overhead of law enforcement under the "guise" of safety. I can hear a lot of mayors and governors yelling "take my money".
mabye it will speed you up unvoluntarily so they can get you a ticket... a cop points the 'laser beam' at your bumper, and then you speed up, then he can clock you? That'd be fun!
@@Have.An.AmicoDaycars with adaptive cruise control and a sensor pack for speed signs already get it wrong. Was driving in a 60kmh zone and car detected it as a 90. Mind you it needed input to accelerate itself but still
So, true. Policing is really just revenue generation. It is more likely that our cars will eventually report our speeding to police so they can issue more tickets.
The first car I bought with my own money was a 1967 Mustang. It didn't have a seatbelt chime, but had a little chrome box, an obvious afterthought, screwed under the dash that would flash "Fasten Seatbelt. It was the first thing I removed to make room for my CB. Shoulder belts weren't on 67's. They were optional in 68 and standard in 69.
On the west coast, we have frontage roads alongside a lot of highways. The highway speed limit could be 65, and the frontage road’s speed limit can be 35, or even 25. How many times I’ve had my maps think I was on that frontage road…it would be extremely dangerous for cars on the freeway to suddenly be going less than half the speed limit or less.
If you live on the west coast just doing the speed limit is putting yourself in harms way, as I like to put it, you are a moving obstacle or speed bump
I work at a chemical plant and we have these "professional drivers" come in and out all day. We're also surrounded by Amazon, Home Depot, and other massive distribution centers and warehouses. Let me tell you there is very little difference between the average stupidity of regular drivers and professional drivers. How can a court hold any driver responsible for an accident if the car automatically does shit on it's own? How is it safer if you're in a car that limits your speed but traffic around you is going 20MPH faster?
9:00 Big rig driver here. Yep, I often do spend my entire workday driving. Most of us are already stuck with employer-set speed governors restricting us to 65 or 68 mph. Supposedly our companies have insurance requirements pushing these limits on us. I've driven rigs programmed to even disengage the cruise control if I use the windshield wipers! I'll now transition into my periodic reminder rant for the car drivers out there. Those governors are part of the reason you car drivers reading this right now often get frustrated and stuck behind us when one big rig is ever so slowly passing another on a flat road; the damned governors are slightly inaccurate and different from each other, and so one guy is slightly faster. Each of us being about 100 feet long, if we're lucky enough to be 1 mph faster, that's 1.467 feet per second to cover 200 feet to pass, that's 2 minutes, 16 seconds or more. Add to that the difference in engine power and weight loads between rigs and a hill and inside versus outside lane, and you'll see one rig will be able to pass another, but not very quickly. By the way, most of the time, we really are not trying to be dicks to everyone else. Our giant trucks (which transport nearly everything that *all of us* buy -- we haul *your stuff)* are just naturally different in performance from cars. You don't expect a hippo and a hummingbird to move the same way, so don't expect it from us! Give us a break already. Leave us room and don't hover next to us, especially next to our tandems (the wheels at the back of our trailers). It's difficult to tell, looking about 100 feet back through a side mirror, whether you're completely behind us and not about to be crushed by us if we need to change lanes, such as to the "fast lane" in which you're loitering beside us, when we professionals with a better view ahead see the cops that you don't see, parked on the right side of the road with all their lights flashing *AND WE MUST BY LAW CLEAR THAT RIGHT LANE.* Oh, if you've never seen a trailer tire *explode,* sending huge chunks of thick, heavy tire tread all over (now you know how that debris ended up at the side of the road), trust me, you do *not* want to be next to it when it happens!
@@John-tn5dn > You drive a truck bro, not successfully perform open heart surgery. You four-wheelers drive as though it were that difficult! Hence my rant.
"... We are not trying to be dicks..." Yeah no. The idiot being passed and not slowing slightly to speed up the pass is trying to be a dick. I've been the passer in the "swift drag race" when for just 20 seconds if they'd show down 5mph sit would be over, i do slow to let pass cause in the end the 1 second lost is not worth it
In 2022 I rented a Skoda Kodiaq(VW Atlas) in Denmark that had speed limit recognition. I was cruising at the speed limit, 80kph, on a main road, when I passed a gravel road that led to a campground. The gravel road had a speed limit of 10kph and the sign was visible as you drove past the road. One of the cameras must have detected that sign because the car slammed the brakes on, trying to get me down to 10kph. My brother in law was behind me and he almost rear ended me. In my opinion, they've got some bugs to work out.
I've got a car with these features and I agree, kinda beta quality. It mostly works but gets confused occasionally. Mine has a cancel button on the wheel that immediately disables all driver assist. I've had to use it a couple times.
Every vehicle will have a little printer on the dashboard. A computerized voice, “John Spartan, you are fined 10 credits for the use of profane and outlawed language. Have a nice day.”
In Germany, though, any ticket less than 20kph under the speed limit doesn't sound on your license and is only about the equivalent of a $20 to $50 fine.
I have a 2019 Ford Transit that I used for expediting work. It has a speed limiter on it and the fastest it will go is 75 miles an hour even downhill. I bought it used and it is a former Penske van. Not only does it have the speed limiter on it but it also has the backup beeper. It was originally sold Pennsylvania or Ohio but I now own it in Michigan.
How many remember 1974 when they required you to fasten the seat belt before the car could be started? It didn't last long between the public outrage and the realization people were disabling the function which also disabled a warning to fasten it.
In some jobs like Amazon and USPS that's still a thing, a very annoying thing. Considering I'm going through a neighborhood door to door at less than 10mph per stop driving a large vehicle, what are the odds I'll even need a seatbelt? I'm getting in and out of the truck at every stop anyways. 🤦♀️ In my opinion seatbelts should be optional at slower speeds and in certain areas like neighborhoods and parking lots.
I drove about 650 miles while I was in England last month. They have very strictly enforced speed laws. Apparently, I was bad at some point. As a result the rental car company (not Hertz) charged me £30 because of a ticket I got automatically on one of the many motorways I traveled on. In my defense, 😄 I'm used to traffic in Los Angeles that routinely speeds at 80 in a 55 without any enforcement whatsoever. 😂 My question is; would tickets be issued based on the indicated speed on the dash, or the calculated GPS speed? Those two are usually vastly different.
I drove for a delivery service years ago that tracked the trucks speed and would show if it were speeding to the home office. The problem is that in certain places where side roads came close to the interstate the system would show a MAJOR speeding violation from thinking I was on the side road and it's possible this could still happen and cause accidents.
This would seem to be extremely prone to an adversarial attack. All you'd have to do to cause a traffic jam would be to put up a fake speed limit sign (admittedly, not something you could do without some planning) on the highway and everybody slows down to 25 mph. Coordinate with a few others and spend a few bucks and you could snarl traffic to an insane degree in any metro area for hours.
Or something more sophisticated... a hacker gets into one of the satellite nav systems and edits all the speed limits. Suddenly a certain percentage of cars (the ones using that specific service) on the interstate are limited to 15 MPH... and the rest are not.
This! Moronic legislators not understanding tech and trying to make laws with it. They would be easy to dupe into driving faster. All i have to do is use a GPS jam-er and then post a 90mph sign 🙄
As opposed to the Natural Occurence of the same thing? Ask drivers in Los Angeles... I'm not one of them; haven't visited that city in over 21 years, but I once saw the entire southbound side of the 605 stopped dead. I made sure I didn't become part of that mess.
@@spacemissingThere is a difference between a regular traffic jam and a targeted one, especially a timed one. It could be a matter of national defense.
My 2006 Ford Fusion already had a Rev Limiter that prevents the vehicle from going over 115 mph. That only applies to the model with the Automatic Transmission. Apparently the reason is that the vehicle becomes unstable at speeds higher than 115 mph but apparently doesn't become unstable on the models with the Manual Transmission.
Sounds good to me. There is absolutely no logical reason to go 115 mph on a public road with other drivers. That would just be selfish fun at the expense of the safety of others.
@@DistrustHumanz That's not even that fast though? People drive substantially faster than that every day without problem over here. All it takes is people making sure to only go that fast when conditions allow for it, so no super heavy traffic, winding highways with shortened lines of sight and so on. Oh and of course everyone needs to understand that you only drive on the left lane to overtake.
My 2006 Yamaha, has a Rev Limiter. Factory setting is around 7500rpm. It ensures one is in the correct gear. It doesn't prevent the rider from 'having fun'. You can get a kit to change the limits, and because it is a Yamaha, you would really have to work hard to damage the engine.
Lots of cars have max speed limits - ranging from 100 to 130. My van is supposedly limited to 100mph - never tried to go that fast in it. My VW bug (2001) is supposedly limited to 130mph - not that it has the power to go that fast. A buddy tripped Mazda's limit in his racecar - smaller tires, so it's not actually going that fast. (mazda's answer - even for their own race teams - was to disable the ABS computer... put a switch under the accelerator to kill the ABS at WOT. My suggestion was to cut every other tooth off the sensors, but they're built into the axles.)
Some trucking companies are already doing this but not by speed limit, they just limit it to 62-65mph. It lowers insurance costs and saves fuel. Since most cars are now accelerator pedal by wire. You can push all you want. The engine control module isn't going to allow a signal to make the car go faster.
Maybe truck drivers need to learn to manage their emotions. They alone are responsible for acting like an adult. If they can't maybe they need to change jobs 🤷
These cars are indeed being sold in the UK and other countries outside of the EU as well. In these countries the system is just laying in wait for their governments to enable it at their whim. I think people are also worried this telemetry speeding data will be shared with the car company to deny warranties, (like Toyota does for going over 85mph), to insurance companies to raise our rates, and with law enforcement. I bet we will even get our medical insurance raised too. "Tampering" will be used to void warranties as well if you dare to block the data transmission from the vehicle. Next step will be law enforcement being notified and registration being suspended for being non-compliant with it's legally mandated data sharing program.
As for commercial vehicles, electronic limitations have been around since the 90's for speed. The automatic braking systems stab break, sometimes out of the blue with nothing around. Freightliner is under scrutiny for that problem.
5 years ago I rented a car that had the automatic braking system. I really wasn't aware of it during the week I had the car until I was just entering the lot to return it and it jammed on the brakes out of nowhere and there was nothing visible that could have caused it. Glad nobody was behind me.
For decades, my vehicles have had Speed Limiters. Usually 220 kmh (136 mph) 🙂. It doesn't matter, since it's "Speeding (a)", "Speeding (b)", "Speeding (c)", "Stunting" YIKES !! (and four gears left !!), back to "Speeding (c)", which is quite affordable.
I would not be surprised if police unions become the biggest opponents of this. After all if your car prevents you from speeding, how will they be able to make quotas and revenue from speeding tickets?
My insurance company wanted me to put a software on my cell phone to "reward me with up to 15% discount for good driving". It would track you acceleration and breaking based on motion detection. I switched insurance companies.
They offered it to you for a discount. You could've just said, "No, thanks." and kept your policy as it was. I refuse to play their game - and I'm an agent. Telematics have been around for roughly fifteen years. I railed against it when they were talking about rolling the programs out. I didn't like their approach because the thresholds are too low and they don't take into account the vehicle, driver, or circumstances. They also don't track actual risky behavior like screwing around on your phone while driving, not using your signals, not doing a head check before changing lanes, or running/rolling a stop sign. That last one really ticks me off because the person who did stop may have gotten dinged for stopping too quickly. Which was more dangerous? I had a similar problem with credit scoring when that came out, too. And I let them know of my displeasure because I knew people who had something like a health problem that caused their credit to go into the toilet but they were safe drivers. At the same time, I knew people with impeccable credit who couldn't drive their way out of a wet paper bag. Two of those guys totaled Porsche 911s - one a Turbo S. Thus, proving my point. It is what it is and I get the rationale for it - the more responsible you are with your daily affairs, the more likely you are in other matters, like driving.
They have had limiters for many years. My 99 Corvette would not go over 116 mph. That didn't last long I had my pcm reset to no limit. It still runs fine.
Yeah, I think most cars do have some sort of limiter just a little over 100. Part of that is the cheaper tires they put on cars from the factory don't have a super high speed rating to them.
No way will I ever drive any vehicle that takes control out of my hands, these things are dangerous, they cannot make educated decisions based on the situation and or conditions. No way am i going to court due to a error a programmer made however many years ago!
As a person whose career involves doing things that ensures software is formally correct, you're absolutely right! Neither the manufacturers that make these systems nor the legislators that mandate them will take the steps to ensure this tech is developed in the manner actual safety critical tech should be.
There are extremely few situations where you need to speed to be safe. There are vastly more situations where speeding makes you more likely to kill people. Overall it saves a lot of lives, including the driver and others nearby, simple no brainer. If you wanted to account for those few situations anyway, though, you could set it where you are allowed to speed over the limit up to 0.02% of your total driving time, allowing you to do so no problem for a few seconds a week in a dangerous rare intersection situation that comes up once. The version described in the video already includes a much more dramatic override system than that anyway, making your complaint moot for the EU versions already (I think it should be more limited override than that)
@@gavinjenkins899 so do you know how we make vehicles safer for the occupants such that sudden stop doesn't minecraft people? roll cages, harnesses and.... seats that actually protect the occupants and the drivers head. Imagine actually looking to an industry that is far more dangerous then the highways but has fewer deaths per km. at the end of the day it's not the speed of a vehicle that's the problem it's the attentiveness of the driver, the situational awareness of the driver and the conditions of the roads, and or vehicles that drives most accidents. you fix those problems implement technology that actually can save lives, and commit to better driver training, you will see roadway fatalities plummet, and general roadway safety increase. but you have to fix those core issues. or at least reduce them.
@@MadocComadrin this is actually why i very much oppose any system that can take any control out of the drivers hand. it's not about "safety" it's about liability at that point. a malfunctioning system that causes an accident, and the idea that these system can be infallible... or can't become a form or reliance is just.... unnerving to me.
On my regular drive Waze informs me the speed limit is changing to 30 mph, and is isn't. It is rural 55 mph and does not lower for miles at the next town.
Report a map issue & they will send out a local editor to check and modify the map. I’ve done this numerous times because I’ve been using Waze for years, dating back to when it was just a closed beta. Waze is great, but only if we help to keep it great. 😊
I am extending this to Stop Lights. There are times I will run a yellow when the pavement is wet, and while I can stop, I am not sure the car behind me will stop in time. While this may only happen once a year to me, many drivers are on the road. I foresee an unnecessary accident.
it's not running a yellow? The yellow means "Figure out where you need to be"- I do agree you shouldn't be chasing them tho, but thats because each light where I am from is a different length so it will lead you to actually running a red. I also agree, this system takes the ability to save yourself with snap judgements away/
Re: The "seat belt chimes" I remember a Chevrolet Vega my family owned in the 1970s that had a system where the car wouldn't start if weight was detected in the seat and the seat belt wasn't fastened. (Cue numerous amusing stories of Thanksgiving turkeys and other groceries needing to be seat belted in the passenger seat before the car would start!) My Father had a conversation with the car dealer and was shown which module underneath the seat to disconnect to disable the system: The mechanic indicated he couldn't legally do the disconnection but the owner of the car could. That "option" lasted about one model year!!
The standard is FMVSS 140, "Intelligent Speed Assist", and is still in development between the FMCSA and NHTSA. California wants part of this in MY2025, to limit the top speed of a vehicle to 10 MPH over the posted limit.
It's not that ppl are speeding, it's that limits are set overly low to enable police to stop everyone anywhere anytime while raising revenue for tickets and collecting anything and everything they want calling it asset forfeiture.
Total BS. Speed limits on interstate are 75-80. , people go 80-85 without getting tickets. Stopping distances at those speeds are > 300 feet! People drive at < 50 feet from the car in front of
@@buffalobilly6046 The highest speed limits in California and the eastern half of the USA are 70mph. Lower in a couple of states. Only three western states have 80mph limits, with Texas having 85 on a toll road on the outskirts of Austin. That guy you are following will also take ~300 feet to stop unless he inexplicably defies the laws of physics or there is a very sturdy wall across the road. Or you're in the TV show Under the Dome.
Shouldn’t be fooled. California is literally and constantly covered in the orange “construction zone”, “double fine zone”, “55 MPH” signs, and the radar portable signs showing how fast you’re going. They’re everywhere, freeways and highways, north to south, and the majority of the time there’s not a single inkling of anything being worked on, no trucks, equipment, not even a port-potty for months. Actually, maybe a fake porta-potty for effect for the non-regulars. I pass one of these every day. That’s a clear cash-grab. It’s a way of having a state 55 MPH limit without officially having one. And then we watch as people are picked off at double fine rates for no other reason.
@@M1903a4 unfortunately, the car in front of him can stop him very quickly if he plows into it. You don't have to drive any slower to keep a good following distance, and it's much less stressful.
The issue is how speed limits are determined, if memory serves me they set the speed limit to what 85% of people will drive under and the other 15% well those are the speeders. Road design is super important the wider and straighter the roads the faster people feel safe to drive. Which in of it self can be super dangerous, since the vast majority of drivers are amateur's. I do know we all think we are really good drivers but we all see the idiots every day driving and the car behind you see's an idiot in front of them.
When are people going to understand that the issue with speeding is almost entirely a result of the road design. The best way to prevent speeding is to design the roads to desired speed, not turning all cars into surveillance machines.
You have it exactly backwards. The correct solution is to set the speed limit to the design of the road. Highway engineers will tell you the speed limit should be the speed 85% of drivers would use if there was no limit. Obvious exceptions for areas like school zones. That is how it was normally done before the 55mph limit was imposed.
The engineers need to go touch some grass then as the desired speeds on most freeways and highways around me by 85% of drivers is 20-30mph over what's posted.
@@M1903a4 but if you want a certain speed in a certain area, its easiest to just design the road to that speed. like if a residential road is very wide, the solution isn't making the speed limit 100, its adding meridians to narrow the road so drivers naturally drive slower.
Me and my teenage buddies back in the day learned that all cars had speed limiters on them. It was fun learning what all the different governing speeds were with every car.
Also, Progressive car insurance has a policy that uses a OBD device to monitor your speed and adjust your rates accordingly. It's not available in California because it was outlawed for discrimination, under their "redlining" law.
Most big truck carriers have their trucks governed typically somewhere between 63-72 mph as it is. Why do we need speedlimiters on trucks? I would say the bigger traffic safety problem is distracted driving( ie texting and driving or handheld cell phone use) and the need for cracking down on that is more important than limiters.
The speed limiters on trucks are for the companies. They are only on big company trucks and not independent owners' trucks. It lowers the insurance cost to mega carriers that hire under-trained truckers.
They'll also be able to turn off your car whenever they want to. Also, they'll be able to drive themselves back to the repo yard.When you don't make a payment.
Any sort of computer override of a driver would not be tolerated in the US, full stop. It would be viewed as a restriction on freedom, nanny-statism, and an invasion of privacy. Any attempt to enforce such software would be met with vigorous rebellion... to include a refusal to purchase vehicles with the offending software. Also, people would use their right-to-repair to eliminate such software
I have friends who race "daily driver-type" cars (SCCA and drags). They just buy new EPROMS programmed for higher speeds. And yes, they do have the proper rated tires for the speed. But then again, they don't street race! Track only! I've gotta road near me, there's a 45mph sign. Maybe 60 feet after it, there's a 35mph sign. Cops love to sit there. 😂
How much more will we allow big brother to control our lives??? What is happening to our freedom??? In 50 years there will be no more freedom. We will be forced to drive EV's that are controlled by computers. Forced to live in certain area's. Forced to eat certain foods....where does it end??? These are reasons to NOT give up our guns.
Steve, your tee shirt is a thumb in their eye. A 1970 Dodge Super Bee with a 440 6 pack was pretty much a standard configuration and would do 55 mph out of the garage. Love your sense of humor.
You could rip out a lot of the emissions control stuff, adjust the timing, and install some after-market engine components and often get a significant performance improvements.
These systems are going to be screwy. Even if hackers don't manage to turn highways into 25mph zones as a prank, these things will break and cause breakdowns. Gonna have to pay extra for features that just add more things to cause problems.
A computer having that control over brakes is a bad idea. Guarantee someone is going to have a glitch, manufacturer will know but not issue recalls and the owner will likely have to pay for any damages because it likely wont be covered by insurance.
It's been on commercial vehicles for over a decade. It's currently up to the carrier to set the limiter where they seem fit. Canadian commercial vehicles are limited to 65mph. Newer trucks can be programmed to set the limiters to speed signs (at least the signs that the camera can recognize)
We had an event recently where there were temporary speed limit signs due to road works in progress. The normal speed limit on that road is 40 mph. So this car with it's speed limiter kept the cars speed to 40mph. So naturally the drivers foot is just on the floor, relying on the limiter to keep the speed within the limit. Then they came to the temporary sign which read "30". Unfortunately this was misread by the system as 80 so the speed immediately shot up to 80mph. Also, the car failed to notice that the drivers foot had come off of the throttle. It wasn't until the driver pushed down hard on the brakes that it finally slowed down. Fortunately nobody was injured but it could have been serious.
I am not sure how many emergency situations there are today that would require excessive speeding with the advent of the cell phone and 911 service. I do remember growing up way before cell phones where people needed to rush to hospitals, now it is much safer to call 911 for medical service. Although I do know that there is a large portion of the United States that is wide open country and the old way is the only way.. So it depends on where you live.
ems response in my location is 45 minutes, nearest hospital is 30 minutes following speed limits, ive made that trip in 13 minutes a few times for various accidents that have happened on the farm and home, pulled over once and escorted to the hospital without any charges. country living is just different. ill be restoring old cars forevermore if this becomes common
Among his more exotic ones (Lotus, Porsche etc) my brother had a performance enhanced '67 GTX 440. And he was a very generous brother. He'd leave it with me when he'd go away on vacation etc. I've driven a lot of nice cars, but still, nothing quite like the feel and sound of opening up that monster V8. And my one experience of leaving a cop receding in the rear view mirror. And going airborne at about 120-130 (the speedos were useless at those speeds, bouncing wildly) via the rise on a highway bridge, as luck would have it, at such a perfect angle it landed under control. Oh, and watching the gas tank empty at about 6 mpg if you did (15.5 was the best I ever got, trying). When the highest octane cost about $5 to fill the tank. Yeah, memories.
1st, Thank you Steve for supporting Truckers. After Canada mandated Speed Limiters on Trucks, I stopped pulling Canadian loads. The FMCSA is trying again to put Speed Limiters on US trucks. The Trump Administration put a stop to the Rule Making, but now they're trying it again..
What happens if I get into a "Duel" scenario? I don't want to be like Dennis Hopper in an anemic AMC Hornet being chased by an insane trucker through the desert
Petition the legislators to force cars to include an "anti road rage and stalking" system that automatically injects the driver with mild sedatives if it detects malicious intent!
@@MadocComadrin That stinks of 'Rules for thee, but not for me." Besides, the more complex the computer controlled 'safety system', the greater the risk of a potentially lethal malfunction.
@@ICRangerTActually it has nothing to do with how the program is written. Your thinking if it's random access memory or read only memory. If the car's pc is read only and unalterable then just replace it. Not that tough, though might be expensive.
I fully support anyone who hacks their car to disable this fascist nonsense! My car tries to tell me the speed limit; turns out, the thing is stupid and doesn't realize that the speed limit on a Saturday in July in a school zone IS NOT 20 mph! We've seen how autonomous cars are doing; do we really think the AI can figure out the custom speed limits?
@matirion Forced government control over existing liberties is fascism, how about you stop downplaying the reality of government over reach and steps we are taking towards tyranny. I bet you probably have problems with the first and second amendments too eh?
Good morning Steve just was watching your video here. I’ve been a truck driver for 30 years and to give you an inside scoop they already have speed limit for big trucks. They had these for about 5- 10 years already .
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Apologies for abusing your post, sent you several emails in the past and you mentioning your bugbear of speed cameras reminded me of one I sent not too long ago.
It was a story about an "innovation" that they've introduced in Spain, would have thought it was right up your street.
I've wondered if my emails might have ended up in your spam folder, or if I've just done a bad job of getting your attention...
We have had speed limiters in trucks for years 67 mph this is why two trucks are side by side for miles
Sure, I'll take that 911 Porshe with a top speed of 85 mph.
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The more I hear of limiters and sharing of info, the more I want to buy a restored classic as my daily driver!
My thoughts exactly. Let's see you put limiters on my 1974 vw rabbit
It won’t be too long after new cars get them that it will become a law to retrofit old cars
And you could completely restore it for what a new car costs.
Some cars it is easy to remove the modem or SIM card that can share your data.
@@xabhax No. They'll just out right ban them from public roads.
Law enforcement vehicles should have speed limiters in them when emergency lights are not on.
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I agree 99% of the time, because of officer knowledge, the human factor and I am not a cop.
They already turn on their lights just long enough to go through an intersection during non-emergencies. That would make them keep their lights on full time.
Absolutely true. And when everyone else has one I'm sure that they will have them too and aa blue light override.
@@IaIaCthulhuFtagn says you
Sometimes speeding is necessary on rough roads, imagine trying to flee a tornado and your car slows you down.
That is why it is a system you can override (by pressing harder on the pedal, or ignoring the sound) Also you can turn it off, but you will have to disable it every time you start the car.
Even if you could not disable it, having the annoying sound will have to do while driving away from that tornado 🙃
@FrederickGrumieaux every second counts so just pushing harder when it starts to slow down might be the difference between survival and a lawsuit from your survivors
@@ConstantChaos1 this will not slow you down a single second. Those beeps etcetera already are used for seat bells and my car already gives haptic feedback for crossing lines or when I get to close to the car before me. And they can be ignored or overriden in the blink of a moment. The only thing I don't like to use is the speed limiter option, because that one may take to long to turn off in a sudden emergency. The only thing you can say about such a system is that it will be annoying as hell. Which I guess is the point...
@FrederickGrumieaux one of the models actively slows the car, did you not watch the video?
I'd be ripping the System out and if it's part of the ECU I'd be getting a Programmable ECU
I worked a job a decade ago where I had to drive a carpool van full of coworkers to a job site by way of an interstate highway. The speed of the van was GPS monitored and would make a beep and send a notification to my bosses if I went over the speed limit. The thing is, there was a VERY specific point on the highway where the GPS would glitch out and report that I was driving over 100mph.
My bosses and I had a huge laugh one time when I got called into their office about it. There was a stop and go traffic jam that day and according to the GPS report, I somehow went from 5mph to 110mph and back down to 5mph in the span of 5 seconds. I joked about getting workman's comp for the whiplash.
Every day, we edge closer to the dystopia of "Demolition man."
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Mellow greetings fellow citizen.
or orwells 1984
@@carlfromtheoc1788 why that is so offensive to people that doesn't like greeting... how dare you... you should be put in jail. LOL
I'm still waiting for the Taco Bell fine dining
The US police/court system will be very reluctant to give up the 6.8 BILLION collected annually nationwide through speeding fines 🤷♂️
Theyll still get their money. You can limit a car to 90 mph and still get a ticket on any road in USA. you could limit them to 80 and get a ticket on the vast majority of traveled roads.
You could limit it to 50 and get a ticket in basically every town center and city. Etc.
@@scimbrelo Is the judge going to trust your lying words over the always trust worthy officer?
@@agord7591 are you confused over my comment
@@scimbrelo looks like it went right over their head.
They will stop and ticket you for something else. They will not give up that money.
If this comes, it needs to be not only on "civilian" cars, but on government cars as well. There is absolutely no reason the governor needs to be driven at 90 miles an hour to his next meeting.
Or the police.
What he said.
Federal cars already have limiters--at least the ones I have driven did. It's been a few years, but I believe our cars would basically stop accelerating at around 85 or 90 mph.
@@DVankeuren but the donuts might be getting cold!
@@DVankeuren Police might need to override it, but in every case, require them to write a public record report of the circumstances.
Gotta love the air quality excuse too. Its all the speeders causing issues, not the fact that they've shut down all their nuclear plants and went back to coal/fossil...
Nothing wrong with fossil fuels.
The earth never stops producing fossil fuels.
What would your life be like without oil and petroleum products? It's used for 99% of everything around you, including your shoes. Anything plastic is petroleum based.
Fossil fuels are the Earth's natural compost, and it's extremely plentiful.
The faster a car runs, the better the fuel burns. That is why they make more fuel economy on freeways. Getting up to the speed uses more fuel. But, once there, the vehicle will burn fuel far cleaner.,
No more speeding tickets? How are small towns going to pay for everything? Higher taxes and slower cars :-o
Exactly, has to be a way of monetization for the state
the speed limiters can be turned off after every start, but speeding won't be accidental anymore.
Where do you think the pushback is comming from?
@@cuoresportivo155 it has never mattered if it was "accidental" or not, hell it doesn't even matter if you're speeding to the hospital! they don't care about your safety, this new law isn't about safety
Tint readers to measure the tint on windows.
I have a relatively new vehicle in the US... In my car the dashboard displays the max speed after passing a speed limit sign. It also displays the max speed when passing the signs for HWY 20 as 20 mph, Hwy 100 as 100 mph and Hwy 180 as 180 mph. I have zero faith in a system like this. While 100 or 180 mph isn't a problem, suddenly getting a ticket for doing 20 mph in a 55 zone would be... or, the car telling your insurance carrier that you were going 35 mph over the speed limit and raising your rates would be.
Lol! Stay away from US 395 or Highway 1!
Exactly. Attorney Rafi (here on RUclips) did a video about how he and his wife rented a car in Italy with this system. It beeped every time it thought you were speeding. It got it wrong the majority of the time. We DO NOT need this system.
Commies take the fun out of EVERYTHING!
@@izzydizzy1115they sure do they love Misery the more the better
@@izzydizzy1115 that has nothing to do with communism though
Truck driver here, currently in a rental truck that has one of those things that tells you what it thinks the speed limit is. It "helpfully" informed me that the speed limit on I35 in Texas is 20 MPH... or so it thinks.
Eaxctly. Consider all the bullshit you might have to endure due to a false reading or otherwise failed electronic piece that misreports you to law enforcement or insurance.
Makes me think of a past office mate. Whenever the tech would fail, she’d roll her eyes and say, “Technology. A blessing when it works, a curse when it doesn’t.” 😂
Sounds like a Kenworth. I have one that tells me it's a 20MPH in school zones at 0300 and lists 55MPH highways at 35.
Almost as reliable as the CMS (Collision Mitigation System) Which will lock the brakes when it detects the 15' 6" overpass and give me alarms for them deadly traffic lights overhead.
I'll give manufacturers a hot tip. I will never buy a car with this capability. Never!
Until they all do it or if they are mandated by the government.
@@moebius2k103 When a new car costs as much as a house in many parts of the country, here's yet another reason not to buy one.🤔
Where’s the tip?
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A speed limiter (or remote tracking or a number of other things) would be an *EXCELLENT WAY* to get me to buy a used car, and never invest in a new car again. I'm old, so I can do that. 🙂
@@TomBortels unfortunately that will buy you a few years before the used cars are equipped.
@@richardhole8429 People act like they're too stupid to build their own on an Assembled Title.
@@RT-qd8yland then they'll make you equip a limiter lol. Won't stop you bypassing it though
Thanks for thinking of the environment 🤗
meh, it'll be like seatbelts, and the 55 mph speed limit... everybody will grumble for a little bit, and then we'll all get used to it. I am in fact already used to it, since all of my companies vehicles are speed limited. not quite to that extent, it's more of a speed cap with consequences than a speed limiter. I mean honestly, the net result anyway is losing about 15 minutes over 3 hours of highway driving (comparing actual ETA at 65 to GPS ETA which probably assumes 75 mph)... which isn't exactly earth-shattering, nor worth extra risk associated with the faster speed
Truck driver here: I just wanted to point out that there are governors in every single semi truck. Only the company has the authorization to change what that Governor is set to. Some companies limit trucks to 65 some companies limit trucks to 70. This would really only affect owner operators.
For now.
One of the major reasons why I went O/O. Even then, my truck came off the dealer lot set to 72mph. The first thing I did was drive to a Cummins shop and have them disable it.
When everyone is stuck behind a truck going 65 trying to pass another truck going 64 the average person will realize why slow speed governing Is a bad idea.
Government is planning of banning international combustion engines if Harris gets in she will ban everything that has a piston including air pumps. I am going to vote straight Trump to save this land from communism take over.
@@highbrass3749 You overestimate the intelligence of the people who are in love with draconian speed limit regulations.
Quite frankly, automatic braking* is dangerous AF.
Braking*
My car does it on a turn. Seriously, the road curves and my car sees the guy in the other lane next to me as "in front of me" and tries to brake. That's honestly going to kill someone someday!
Very very dangerous.
Arbitrarily limiting the cars' speed is also dangerous AF. You'll try to pass a semi and be sitting in its blind spot for ten minutes.
Yep, my vehicle can’t tell the difference between a vehicle impact less than a second away, and vehicles turning not on a collision path at all. I’d have my brakes lock up and get rear ended about once a month if my “smart collision detection” had control over my brakes.
I got rear-ended driving home from the eclipse because the car I was in thought I wasn't braking fast enough and decided to brake about as hard as it could. There was nothing I could do to stop it. Absolutely bullshit feature.
As a former safety officer with a discipline in drivers training and ground accidents I can tell you these speed limitors are extremely dangerous.
There are many times the driver needs power and speed immediately to avoid unsafe predicaments. Especially if the traffic is c becomes congested. This happens so often that most of the time it's unnoticeable. If speed limitors are installed you can damn sure expect a lot more fatalities to include the death of children.
You can't be serious. This isn't about limiting power or acceleration. I'm certain that there would be a lot more deaths, especially of children, caused by speeding, than deaths caused by not being able to speed. The fact is that most people who speed don't do it to avoid accidents. They cause them.
There is also the fact that apparently these limiters can be overridden by pressing hard on the accelerator. You can still accelerate as hard as you want to avoid an accident. You just have to put up with your car chiming at you, or reducing your speed unless you're punching it. If you're driving over the speed limit they cut in unless you jam your foot to the floor to 'avoid an accident'.
I don't want any piece of equipment that I own and operate to do any "thinking" for me. Any machine that can take away my control while operating it is a gateway to something bad, and I will do anything and everything in my power to make sure I don't own it or use it.
@@joe-s5rits a chilling effect. Next thing they will limited power/acceleration. Crash avoidance tech already can affect power/acceleration and can override driver decision such as turning the wheel too fast at a certain speed....what if that decision crashes you to into a ditch but saves you from a head-on fatal collision? Emergencies are emergencies for a reason but the option should be there for full, unfettered control of a vehicle.
In an emergency milliseconds can matter - can't wait to "authorize" to remove tech limitations on a vehicle
This was my first thought when he started talking about it. Like you, I have a risk management background. There are times where acceleration or braking literally can make the difference between life and death. You shouldn't be having to fight with your car while also fighting for your life.
Really, it's something I learned when I first started driving at 15 and we bought a little bigger motorcycle than was legal so we knew the bike could get out of its own way. My dad has a risk management background, too. Go figure.
If cars in the US implement systems like this I will never buy a new car again - period. Big brother at it’s worst.
Many new cars already report back driving. GM got caught SELLING this data.
@@patfrederick7327 It's the car itself that collects data. Any new vehicle with its own internet connectivity will report back to the manufacturer.
@@patfrederick7327not that easy. Many vehicles have built in gps for the infotainment system so you can’t just remove it unless want to re engineer the systems.
@@patfrederick7327you think it's some additional module or something??? It's built right into the main computer.
@@patfrederick7327 GM - It's easy to find. The button with the OnStar logo. Now, good luck removing it that from the car computer.
@@patfrederick7327 The car itself is a tracker. onstar is the tracker. No need to install anything else.
What happens when the vehicle thinks you’re driving on a side road next to a highway and slows you down to 35 mph on the highway?
What? You mean it isn’t just government protecting of from any possible harm but it’s a big corporation forcing us to buy something they thought up? Unbelievable!
On the west coast we have this a LOT, and maps apps often think you’re on that than on the freeway.
This happens to me all of the time when I'm doing Uber. I'll take the frontage road to save gas but Uber thinks I'm on the freeway.
it's a sacrifice your dictator willing to make.
"the speed limit is fifty kilometres per hour, the speed limit is fifty kilometres per hour, on and on and on" Very annoying so I am just waiting for the day when a truck slams on the brakes on a major freeway because it thinks I am in the adjacent school zone. Had it happen when a car was parked on the side of a road going through a chicane. A different truck was forever giving collision warnings on empty roads in the rain.
Sammy Hagar wrote I Can't Drive 55 after getting a speeding ticket for 62mph.
What happens if you have an emergency and trying to get a loved one to the ER, or you are trying to get away from someone trying to harm you and your car slows down.
DYWTV?
@@redwolfexr Could you explain that question, please?
@@m_bored7133 "Did you Watch the Video?"
All of the "limiters" are totally ignorable. Its a notification system, not an actual governor. (we had those in the military)
@@redwolfexr Gotcha, thanks. I have to put up with the system in Freightliners. They have a screen that shows road speed and following distance. They also like to brake check for a random overhead sign or on a curved ramp with reflectors on the edge of the curve.
I'm waiting for the day it sends me into the ditch on ice.
@@redwolfexr they are for now
I remember reading a book about bs like this….. Everyone thought it was fiction.
1984?
🙄🙄🙄
Not me, I knew it was coming.
Lol. What about the part where there's a screen in your house that watches you while you watch it? We're all just ok with that. I have one.
The problem is a certain group of people saw that book as an instruction manual, rather than a warning.
I rarely see anyone driving recklessly due to speeding. In fact most people drive over the speed limit. What is more of a safety hazard is people driving slower than everyone in the left lane, running red lights, not using turn indicators, cutting in front of someone, and just generally not paying attention to the road. "Speeding" is the least of the concerns.
100% true. While speed can contribute to severity after the fact, what they really need to crack down on is cell phones while driving.
A test was done on a 4 lane highway where 4 cars took the front of a pack and set cruise control to 55mph. It caused mayhem and destruction behind. If everyone has to go the same speed, we will see huge traffic jams on highways and accident rate will increase.
The NHTSA has convinced people for years that speed is the leading cause of accidents. It is not. It may be a contributing factor, but is seldom the PCF (Primary Collision Factor).
You must not live near me and drive the interstate 😂!
Do you have evidence for this claim that goes against the industries own data?
Don’t forget three systems increase the cost of the car while increasing failures that will stop the car from running. Modern cars are becoming increasingly unreliable as massive amounts of technology are used at no benefit to the consumer where a single system failure causes a breakdown.
Not to mention these cars are already gathering data about you and sending it back to the manufacturer, insurers, and the government. With as much as all this garbage adds to the cost of the car, the user sees no real benefit from it (monetarily or otherwise). If anything, the government and the manufacturers should be subsidizing the costs to the end users for the invasion of privacy.
And they'll probably want you to pay a subscription fee.😁
See the $15k tail light failure on an F150.
When you're required to download software into a WINDOW SWITCH, you know they've lost the plot.
@@onebadsavage26 I specifically will never buy a Tesla or BMW for just that reason alone.
like the Mach E
I was driving in the Middle East / Jordan in the late 90s where cars had an alert beeper that activated at 120km/hr / 75mph. It was beeping the entire time we drove 50 miles out in the desert , in the middle of nowhere. 25+ years this has been a thing.
I recall hearing of a studyout of sweden years ago showing that if everyone drives at the same speeds, traffic gets very easily backlogged but if about 15% of people drive 5-10% faster, everything flows much more smoothly, especially when lane etiquet is maintained. Speed patrolling and speed limiting are not the right approach.
you, it also causes accidents, road rage, and more,
speaking from personal experience, speed limiters cause accidents and put people at risk. There are times when you need to speed to pass or to get out of the way of an accident. They also cause traffic congestion when two cars can't pass one another on the freeway.
I've found on a motorcycle that when I travel at the speed limit people never notice me since I blend in to traffic so well. As a result I deal with a lot more people cutting me off and nearly hitting me. If I maintain around 5-10% above the speed limit I'm something changing in the environment and as a result face _far_ fewer disruptions. Additionally I have a far better chance to find dead spots in traffic where nothing is around to hit me.
Study tracks with my own experience.
@@mawnkey I had a close call.last week merging onto a highway where a whole SUV was able to hide in a blindspot. Too far up for rearview, too far back for side mirror or peripheral vision. Didn't help that the driver paced me instead of pulling forward or falling back. A little motorbike can be downright invisible, even to fairly attentive drivers.
@@mawnkey even when driving cars/trucks, if you go even just 2mph over the speed limit, it Massively cuts down on road rage from speeders behind you.
I don’t believe that. It just sounds more like a correlation between traffic jams causing everyone to go at the same speed while normal flowing traffic has some people going faster.
My dad had a car that had that system built in. He was going down the highway at 65. There was an off ramp speed sign saying 35. His car thought it was for the highway and slamed on the breaks to slow him down to 35. It almost caused an accident. My dad took it to the dealership and had them disable it. So who would be responsible for and accident caused by an problem with the system?
You. It might not be your fault. But you will get the blame.
So it's already happening. Wonderful. I figured these systems would have to start getting old and decrepit before they got that bad. My father was a software engineer, so I was raised with "don't put your life in the hands of a computer". At least with fly-by-wire, it's triple- or quadruple-redundant. I doubt they bother putting three computers with three separate sets of sensors, all cross-checking each other, into a car. (Not cross-checking from different sensors is what crashed two 737-MAX jets, as well. The extra sensor was an "option").
Yep. Tesla FSD has this problem as well. It just sees something -- phantom red light, phantom emergency lights, etc, and slows down.
But the bigger concern to me is that grandma will forget the speed limit, her car will start vibrating or whirring, and she'll freak out trying to understand what's happening and....get in an accident. That's WAY more likely than drivers understanding what the car is telling them and obeying.
Sounds like a stupid implementation; the EU mandated one discussed in the video would, at most, decelerate gradually rather than slamming on the brakes.
Just imagine that causes a collision that causes death or bodily harm and they think it was caused by brake checking
my dad drives a semi and some of them has power limiters on them to keep you from going too fast, problem is they limit the power you need to climb hills also LOL so the engine gets to bog and strain to pull hills or quickly get up to highway speed to merge, they also have collision avoidance systems that slam on the brakes at shadows and falling snow
New governors only limit the speed, not the power. I have driven both kinds.
I drove a freightshaker that had the stupid avoidance system in it, and yes it would occasionally hit the brakes hard when going under metal bridges. Not fun, very scary.
@@patfrederick7327 Try the brand new '24 Intertrashional LTs and be prepared to witness it in action. When you exit on the off ramp it'll detect the sign as an unavoidable collision and will lock your brakes up on occasion.
@@patfrederick7327I work for a large over the road trucking company. We have over 1 thousand trucks on the road. All are equipped with a radar system that will lock the breaks to avoid a potential collision. I have personally had the breaks lock up on a Freightliner because the system thought railroad tracks were another vehicle. These systems are now better now then they were. But I still hate them.
Governors don't necessarily limit the power if they limit the speed. The two are controlled independently. Often, companies will buy higher horsepower engines, because they are able to get more money for them when they sell them, but they will limit them. I drove for a company that put 800 cat engines in the trucks, but limited them to 600hp.
Another tidbit is, all semi trucks built in at least the last few decades have governors. It's part of the electronic control system. Nothing stops a company from raising the limit to the point that it may as well not be governed though.
Here is my big concern about this. I’ve done some traveling around this country mainly east coast and I’ve seen some traffic coming out of some of these big cities (I 95 out of DC comes to mind) where if you drove the speed limit you would cause a wreck. This to me is not a safe idea. I feel that this could get a lot of people hurt if not killed.
Another big concern is what if you was a first responder on a volunteer fire department?Sometimes every second counts and you’re on your way to an emergency somewhere and you feel safe to drive 62 but the speed limit is 55. This just doesn’t sound fair. We need to keep this technology out of our automobiles.
Me and my dad built my first vehicle, a 1980 chevy luv with a V8. Someone asked him about turning loose a 16yr old with such a vehicle. He just smirked and said “Oh, I took care of that. He won’t know what this truck can do until I think he is ready for it.” Well, turns out he adjusted the bolt that was mounted to the firewall underneath the gas pedal. There used to be quite a few vehicles that were produced with these. It didn’t take me long to discover what was limiting the performance. So when I would leave the house I would pull in somewhere and remove the bolt and then coming home would stop down the road and replace it. Good times.
Sneaky 😂
My dad did something similar to that with the vacuum secondaries, but he also left it in place most of the time even when he was driving it around town on errands, either to try to disguise it further or the fuel saving.
When I studied how the various rods & levers worked, I was able to remove the spring he used to hold the top flap closed, thus locking out the secondaries (like when the choke was on). Driving a 5L V8 on the primaries alone felt like a 4 cylinder. I think he probably realised I that I had worked it out based on the mileage and how much fuel I was using, because one day I pulled over to remove it, and it wasn’t there. It didn’t make a return until my brothers started driving, and by then I had my own car(s).
That's awesome! That's what we need again in the US are small pickups like that. The V8 just adds to the versatility making it good for both work and play. 😁
I took a small bus once with this feature built in. It was annoying AF. Basically, when it hit the limited speed, the engine would automatically lower. But since the driver didn't change the pressure on the gas pedal, it would immediately speed back up. So for sixty minutes or so, the whole bus was rocking forward and backward as it alternated between accelerating and decelerating at a period of about five seconds.
Yes, my car is electronically limited to 101 mph from the factory and when you hit the limiter unexpectedly it is quite jarring
Inexperienced driver or bad bus, I drive a transit bus and this is only an issue on the freeway and what you do is adjust your foot on the gas to keep it right at the limit so it doesn't cut out. It can be a trick as every bus can be a little different, some certainly can jerk more than others when the power cuts out.
Cruise control.
I drove a motorcoach for a company that limited the fleet between 66 and 67 mph. Kind of annoying when traveling state to state in a group of 3 or more buses, you'd have to slow down for the slow guy who could never catch up. Since 'foot on the floor' was the default cruise control, we never really used it on the highway. Plus, the indicator on the dash was super super bright.
It was interesting to learn that the speed limiter only worked on the throttle - going downhill, you could easily get the bus up to 80mph without realizing it.
@@nowake but but it have limit on the SPEED. LOL What it really limit is the driver to drive.
can you imagine being in a dangerous situation passing someone (a slow moving vehicle for example ... from Wisconsin!) only to need to put the pedal down fast and then the car stops the move and makes it a thousand times more dangerous? The systems could make you distracted while in a dangerous situation. I hope this doesn't take until safer way is possible
I'm pretty sure the part where he explained applying more pressure to the throttle to override the limiter is intended to prevent that.
Horsepower saves lives, thats common sense.
@@jerryrathman5717 so then whats the speed limiter doing?
Watch the video before commenting, it has an override in it for such situations already.
@@Born_Stellar Well for one thing, measuring WHEN and how OFTEN you override it can be used to ticket you, if you're for example overriding it 70% of the time, instead of 0.1% of the time in rare emergencies.
Google maps speed limits are WRONG ALOT!!
Our cops spend all day on the highway writing tickets instead of in town where we have a crap ton of moronic drivers.
There's no money in fighting crime.
Speeders are soft targets
They can't stop people in town there are other people there who could witness the interaction. What happens if they pull over the mayor for running a stop sign with a dozen pedestrians around any of which could film them.
a lot of areas have separate highway patrol from local police.
@@elizd9952 our interstates allow police and sheriff of nearby areas to patrol and issue speeding tickets. I guess their share their “cherry patches” as I see State police within city limits with radar guns
These systems are just a stop gap until Skynet is driving all cars.
And setup a worldwide gigantic crash
Definitely not a joke, in my opinion. Control IS the goal. Just watched the movie Equilibrium, with Christian Bale(Free on Prime)....we are heading in that direction. I will join/form, "the Resistance"
Hopefully they're more intelligent than Waymo's honking at each other in a carpark next to residences
@@schaind11 The only way your car will work is if you have a special chip implanted in your forehead or right hand. All of the VIN numbers will end in 666.😈🔥👹
Screw a speed limiter. Make something that prevents tailgating.
Reverse high beam lights. 😊
Omg this
@@ryanj.hanson6920that actually works. I had a really old pickup, a '54 GMC, and I mounted a lamp housing with an aircraft landing light in it on top of the cab at above the rear window. It was ostensibly to illuminate the bed of the truck, but it was an adjustable mount, and it was controlled by a toggle switch I mounted in the dashboard. It did a great job!
First get the sight seers out of the left lane
First get rid of the tailgaters. Above all else!
The Autobahn is statistically safer than US interstates yet it has no speed limit. The reason for this is that they heavily police tailgating and aggressive driving and also have technology to detect tailgating.
My 2014 BMW i3 built in 2013 has the version that slows you down. It is a car built for the US market! It only does it when you are in "ECO PRO" mode. When you reach 56MPH (Standard maximum speed limit in Germany) the car will stop accelerating and slow you down to 56MPH. You can bypass it by releasing pressure on the pedal and then quickly pushing back down. It's kind of annoying. The car also has Speed limit data built into the navigation. There are also special cameras in the rear-view mirror that can isolate and identify speed limit signs. It will display the speed limit signs it reads on the dash board. Sometimes it reads a route number sign and gets confused lol.
So, we no longer have agency over what we may deem as an emergency. They do this because they can without ever considering if they should
EXACTLY!
Thank you for giving me another reason to buy the 1958 Oldsmobile 88 I have been drooling over!
Go get that rocket!
2:10 Steve, they want to "empower new mobility systems", not "empower _people_ with new mobility systems." It's the system that they will empower. I suspect it's another way of saying "we're going to push everyone onto public transport whenever and wherever possible."
Mr Lehto, I work as a technician in a large LTL trucking company, trucks do have limiters, owners can set it up, even password protected, the company I work for limit their truck 65mph and 70mph depending on the region.
Just as long as it can still hit 88.... I gotta GTFO of 2024 ASAP!!!!!!
Gotta go to Mexico 🇲🇽!
@@robertlee9395 at least Mexico has health care
haha, no one in the 80's would have ever guessed we'd lose our cars, it's coming, and that may be what starts a war in America!
@@joesmith9216 Hardly. Now take away cell phones or close down Amazon and Ikea.... There's your war. Or in the land of abundant cellulite, maybe tax people by the pound....
That could be one of a number of reasons why SHTF is coming, soon.
It's only a matter of time before a LEO will be able to shut down a car to prevent high-speed chases.
They already can with gm cars and on star plenty of videos on RUclips when they use it
@@benshones6588 Since they first released it; google search says 1997 for Cadillacs.
It's only a matter of time before thieves are able to remotely disable your vehicle...
@@benshones6588 Thanks I'll have to check it out.
They already can on most cars
Well, I've seen my GPS say the speed limit of the road I'm on is 65, when in fact it's 75. So, if they are going to base this off GPS, they got a lot of work to do on it.
GPS speed limits have to be regularly updated to be any good. North America, for its size has literally millions of miles that speed limits would have to be monitored.
@@scottcooper4391 and the updates should be free if they are tied to the max speed I can drive.
I'm an off roader. I was on a gravel road in Cherokee national Forest in North Carolina a couple months ago and gps told me the speed limit was 65. 😂 I had a little bit of fun putting it in 2wd and second gear and then hitting the gas getting my rear end to swing out a bit going around curves (when I knew it was safe) but definitely didn't try to do the (obviously wrong) speed limit the Android Auto thought that road had.
Steve, love your videos: In the early 80s, as a young single woman, I had a male driver playing cat and mouse with me on a moderately busy freeway. He was trying to get me off the road, making gestures, pointing to take exits, and so on. Luckily, I lost him in traffic by speeding up and then losing myself in the crowd. If I had a limiter that slowed down my car, I might not have been able to get away from this jerk. Sometimes, you have to gun it for your own safety!
Cars slowing you down would remove a lot of state revenue from tickets. They won't let that happen. But having your own car write you a ticket without having to pay all the overhead of law enforcement under the "guise" of safety. I can hear a lot of mayors and governors yelling "take my money".
mabye it will speed you up unvoluntarily so they can get you a ticket... a cop points the 'laser beam' at your bumper, and then you speed up, then he can clock you? That'd be fun!
@@Have.An.AmicoDaycars with adaptive cruise control and a sensor pack for speed signs already get it wrong. Was driving in a 60kmh zone and car detected it as a 90. Mind you it needed input to accelerate itself but still
So, true. Policing is really just revenue generation. It is more likely that our cars will eventually report our speeding to police so they can issue more tickets.
@@e.jameszettlemoyer3819 That won't happen, unless the general public allows the bureaucrats to impose such technological restrictions on drivers.
The first car I bought with my own money was a 1967 Mustang. It didn't have a seatbelt chime, but had a little chrome box, an obvious afterthought, screwed under the dash that would flash "Fasten Seatbelt. It was the first thing I removed to make room for my CB. Shoulder belts weren't on 67's. They were optional in 68 and standard in 69.
GOOD FOR YOU
On the west coast, we have frontage roads alongside a lot of highways. The highway speed limit could be 65, and the frontage road’s speed limit can be 35, or even 25. How many times I’ve had my maps think I was on that frontage road…it would be extremely dangerous for cars on the freeway to suddenly be going less than half the speed limit or less.
If you live on the west coast just doing the speed limit is putting yourself in harms way, as I like to put it, you are a moving obstacle or speed bump
I work at a chemical plant and we have these "professional drivers" come in and out all day. We're also surrounded by Amazon, Home Depot, and other massive distribution centers and warehouses. Let me tell you there is very little difference between the average stupidity of regular drivers and professional drivers.
How can a court hold any driver responsible for an accident if the car automatically does shit on it's own? How is it safer if you're in a car that limits your speed but traffic around you is going 20MPH faster?
9:00 Big rig driver here. Yep, I often do spend my entire workday driving. Most of us are already stuck with employer-set speed governors restricting us to 65 or 68 mph. Supposedly our companies have insurance requirements pushing these limits on us. I've driven rigs programmed to even disengage the cruise control if I use the windshield wipers!
I'll now transition into my periodic reminder rant for the car drivers out there.
Those governors are part of the reason you car drivers reading this right now often get frustrated and stuck behind us when one big rig is ever so slowly passing another on a flat road; the damned governors are slightly inaccurate and different from each other, and so one guy is slightly faster. Each of us being about 100 feet long, if we're lucky enough to be 1 mph faster, that's 1.467 feet per second to cover 200 feet to pass, that's 2 minutes, 16 seconds or more.
Add to that the difference in engine power and weight loads between rigs and a hill and inside versus outside lane, and you'll see one rig will be able to pass another, but not very quickly.
By the way, most of the time, we really are not trying to be dicks to everyone else. Our giant trucks (which transport nearly everything that *all of us* buy -- we haul *your stuff)* are just naturally different in performance from cars. You don't expect a hippo and a hummingbird to move the same way, so don't expect it from us!
Give us a break already. Leave us room and don't hover next to us, especially next to our tandems (the wheels at the back of our trailers).
It's difficult to tell, looking about 100 feet back through a side mirror, whether you're completely behind us and not about to be crushed by us if we need to change lanes, such as to the "fast lane" in which you're loitering beside us, when we professionals with a better view ahead see the cops that you don't see, parked on the right side of the road with all their lights flashing *AND WE MUST BY LAW CLEAR THAT RIGHT LANE.*
Oh, if you've never seen a trailer tire *explode,* sending huge chunks of thick, heavy tire tread all over (now you know how that debris ended up at the side of the road), trust me, you do *not* want to be next to it when it happens!
You drive a truck bro, not successfully perform open heart surgery. Calm down with your "I'm a professional" bit just a little.
@@John-tn5dn > You drive a truck bro, not successfully perform open heart surgery.
You four-wheelers drive as though it were that difficult! Hence my rant.
@@planethedgehog2427you sound beyond tarded
So don't pass... duh
"... We are not trying to be dicks..." Yeah no. The idiot being passed and not slowing slightly to speed up the pass is trying to be a dick. I've been the passer in the "swift drag race" when for just 20 seconds if they'd show down 5mph sit would be over, i do slow to let pass cause in the end the 1 second lost is not worth it
In 2022 I rented a Skoda Kodiaq(VW Atlas) in Denmark that had speed limit recognition. I was cruising at the speed limit, 80kph, on a main road, when I passed a gravel road that led to a campground. The gravel road had a speed limit of 10kph and the sign was visible as you drove past the road. One of the cameras must have detected that sign because the car slammed the brakes on, trying to get me down to 10kph. My brother in law was behind me and he almost rear ended me. In my opinion, they've got some bugs to work out.
Put tape over the cameras - that seems to work for the ATF.
I've got a car with these features and I agree, kinda beta quality. It mostly works but gets confused occasionally. Mine has a cancel button on the wheel that immediately disables all driver assist. I've had to use it a couple times.
@chad2787 My car has a lot of these features too. I've turned almost all of them off. I do like the traffic jam assist, though.
"Why not let your own car write you a ticket"
Trucks in Germany have been doing exactly that for a few years if I'm not mistaken.
Every vehicle will have a little printer on the dashboard. A computerized voice, “John Spartan, you are fined 10 credits for the use of profane and outlawed language. Have a nice day.”
@@dewfall56 The Fifth Element had the voice in the car that would tell you how many points you have left.
Afaik there’s a black box that can be read for a couple months back upon inspection by the police
@dewfall56 Demolition man, great movie! I totally read that in the robotic voice from the movie! 😆😆😆
In Germany, though, any ticket less than 20kph under the speed limit doesn't sound on your license and is only about the equivalent of a $20 to $50 fine.
I have a 2019 Ford Transit that I used for expediting work. It has a speed limiter on it and the fastest it will go is 75 miles an hour even downhill. I bought it used and it is a former Penske van. Not only does it have the speed limiter on it but it also has the backup beeper. It was originally sold Pennsylvania or Ohio but I now own it in Michigan.
How many remember 1974 when they required you to fasten the seat belt before the car could be started? It didn't last long between the public outrage and the realization people were disabling the function which also disabled a warning to fasten it.
In some jobs like Amazon and USPS that's still a thing, a very annoying thing. Considering I'm going through a neighborhood door to door at less than 10mph per stop driving a large vehicle, what are the odds I'll even need a seatbelt? I'm getting in and out of the truck at every stop anyways. 🤦♀️ In my opinion seatbelts should be optional at slower speeds and in certain areas like neighborhoods and parking lots.
I used to do that all the time. Only 1974 model year cars had that, it was repealed for 1975
@@RefreshingShamrock it's a slippery slop. Never should make it mandatory at all. Let the driver decide, he is the driver.
was called interlock
they still have it the vehicle will start but either it won't go into gear or goes into limp mode
I drove about 650 miles while I was in England last month. They have very strictly enforced speed laws. Apparently, I was bad at some point. As a result the rental car company (not Hertz) charged me £30 because of a ticket I got automatically on one of the many motorways I traveled on.
In my defense, 😄 I'm used to traffic in Los Angeles that routinely speeds at 80 in a 55 without any enforcement whatsoever. 😂
My question is; would tickets be issued based on the indicated speed on the dash, or the calculated GPS speed? Those two are usually vastly different.
Not in my car🤔
30 pounds is pretty cheap :), especially of Hertz included admin fee, as rentals usually do
My GPS and dash speedometer are almost identical, a very fast gps works out.
I thought speeding was the national pastime in England?
I drove for a delivery service years ago that tracked the trucks speed and would show if it were speeding to the home office. The problem is that in certain places where side roads came close to the interstate the system would show a MAJOR speeding violation from thinking I was on the side road and it's possible this could still happen and cause accidents.
At some point, people have to rise up against all these nannies.
Not when the nannies are protecting me
@@rp9674 Growing up is a wonderful thing.
Growing up doesn't mean you're free from responsibilities
@@rp9674 Um, yes, and that's the point. Grownups don't need nannies to take responsibility for them.
People need regulations, Anarchy doesn't work, the public gets to agree on the rules by voting
And soon after the limiters, then you can get a subscription to turn off the limiter for up to 1 hour a day for a low price of 19.95 a month.
This would seem to be extremely prone to an adversarial attack. All you'd have to do to cause a traffic jam would be to put up a fake speed limit sign (admittedly, not something you could do without some planning) on the highway and everybody slows down to 25 mph. Coordinate with a few others and spend a few bucks and you could snarl traffic to an insane degree in any metro area for hours.
Or something more sophisticated... a hacker gets into one of the satellite nav systems and edits all the speed limits. Suddenly a certain percentage of cars (the ones using that specific service) on the interstate are limited to 15 MPH... and the rest are not.
This! Moronic legislators not understanding tech and trying to make laws with it. They would be easy to dupe into driving faster. All i have to do is use a GPS jam-er and then post a 90mph sign 🙄
This would never happen in this country. It would never make sense for it to happen due to the cost or revenue for the cities and states
As opposed to the Natural Occurence of the same thing? Ask drivers in Los Angeles...
I'm not one of them; haven't visited that city in over 21 years,
but I once saw the entire southbound side of the 605 stopped dead.
I made sure I didn't become part of that mess.
@@spacemissingThere is a difference between a regular traffic jam and a targeted one, especially a timed one. It could be a matter of national defense.
My 2006 Ford Fusion already had a Rev Limiter that prevents the vehicle from going over 115 mph. That only applies to the model with the Automatic Transmission. Apparently the reason is that the vehicle becomes unstable at speeds higher than 115 mph but apparently doesn't become unstable on the models with the Manual Transmission.
Sounds good to me. There is absolutely no logical reason to go 115 mph on a public road with other drivers. That would just be selfish fun at the expense of the safety of others.
@@DistrustHumanz That's not even that fast though? People drive substantially faster than that every day without problem over here. All it takes is people making sure to only go that fast when conditions allow for it, so no super heavy traffic, winding highways with shortened lines of sight and so on. Oh and of course everyone needs to understand that you only drive on the left lane to overtake.
My 2006 Yamaha, has a Rev Limiter. Factory setting is around 7500rpm. It ensures one is in the correct gear. It doesn't prevent the rider from 'having fun'. You can get a kit to change the limits, and because it is a Yamaha, you would really have to work hard to damage the engine.
@@tannhausergate7162 115 mph is 185 km/h. I don't recall any road/highway that allows that in North America legally.
Lots of cars have max speed limits - ranging from 100 to 130. My van is supposedly limited to 100mph - never tried to go that fast in it. My VW bug (2001) is supposedly limited to 130mph - not that it has the power to go that fast. A buddy tripped Mazda's limit in his racecar - smaller tires, so it's not actually going that fast. (mazda's answer - even for their own race teams - was to disable the ABS computer... put a switch under the accelerator to kill the ABS at WOT. My suggestion was to cut every other tooth off the sensors, but they're built into the axles.)
Some trucking companies are already doing this but not by speed limit, they just limit it to 62-65mph. It lowers insurance costs and saves fuel.
Since most cars are now accelerator pedal by wire. You can push all you want. The engine control module isn't going to allow a signal to make the car go faster.
The road rage from drivers stuck behind the cars will be even worse than it is now.
Maybe truck drivers need to learn to manage their emotions. They alone are responsible for acting like an adult. If they can't maybe they need to change jobs 🤷
@wes52101 where did he even mention trucks?
@@wes52101lol what are you talking about. No one said anything about truck drivers
@@wes52101 The person you're responding to didn't mention anything about truck drivers. Reading comprehension is your friend.
@@Twinspinner Around the 8 minute mark. Try listening next time!
These cars are indeed being sold in the UK and other countries outside of the EU as well. In these countries the system is just laying in wait for their governments to enable it at their whim. I think people are also worried this telemetry speeding data will be shared with the car company to deny warranties, (like Toyota does for going over 85mph), to insurance companies to raise our rates, and with law enforcement. I bet we will even get our medical insurance raised too. "Tampering" will be used to void warranties as well if you dare to block the data transmission from the vehicle. Next step will be law enforcement being notified and registration being suspended for being non-compliant with it's legally mandated data sharing program.
Sharing data on your driving with insurers (private companies) against your will would fall foul of gdpr.
Yeah even we look at the brake fluid cap may get the owner arrested for making sure he is safe to drive.
As for commercial vehicles, electronic limitations have been around since the 90's for speed. The automatic braking systems stab break, sometimes out of the blue with nothing around. Freightliner is under scrutiny for that problem.
5 years ago I rented a car that had the automatic braking system. I really wasn't aware of it during the week I had the car until I was just entering the lot to return it and it jammed on the brakes out of nowhere and there was nothing visible that could have caused it. Glad nobody was behind me.
For decades, my vehicles have had Speed Limiters. Usually 220 kmh (136 mph) 🙂.
It doesn't matter, since it's "Speeding (a)", "Speeding (b)", "Speeding (c)", "Stunting" YIKES !! (and four gears left !!), back to "Speeding (c)", which is quite affordable.
I only own/drive pre-2008 cars and trucks. Easy to work on, plentiful parts, no nonsense.
I would not be surprised if police unions become the biggest opponents of this. After all if your car prevents you from speeding, how will they be able to make quotas and revenue from speeding tickets?
Don't worry, "they" will find something else.
@@curtisalex456 yes, like drunk driving with the test showing zero. They have plenty of things they can pull you over for.
They'll just issue the tickets anyway. They lie all the time, why not on this too?
Because it only limits top speeds not if you go 70 in a 50.
They really won't like it because it will work on their personal, cars as well as on your car.
My insurance company wanted me to put a software on my cell phone to "reward me with up to 15% discount for good driving". It would track you acceleration and breaking based on motion detection. I switched insurance companies.
They will just buy that data from the auto manufacturer
They offered it to you for a discount. You could've just said, "No, thanks." and kept your policy as it was.
I refuse to play their game - and I'm an agent. Telematics have been around for roughly fifteen years. I railed against it when they were talking about rolling the programs out. I didn't like their approach because the thresholds are too low and they don't take into account the vehicle, driver, or circumstances.
They also don't track actual risky behavior like screwing around on your phone while driving, not using your signals, not doing a head check before changing lanes, or running/rolling a stop sign. That last one really ticks me off because the person who did stop may have gotten dinged for stopping too quickly. Which was more dangerous?
I had a similar problem with credit scoring when that came out, too. And I let them know of my displeasure because I knew people who had something like a health problem that caused their credit to go into the toilet but they were safe drivers. At the same time, I knew people with impeccable credit who couldn't drive their way out of a wet paper bag. Two of those guys totaled Porsche 911s - one a Turbo S. Thus, proving my point. It is what it is and I get the rationale for it - the more responsible you are with your daily affairs, the more likely you are in other matters, like driving.
Insurance companies that commit such invasions of privacy are lawbreakers, and should be punished accordingly.
@@juliogonzo2718 Yeah, but at least that makes them pay for it. No need to make it easier for them.
They have had limiters for many years. My 99 Corvette would not go over 116 mph. That didn't last long I had my pcm reset to no limit. It still runs fine.
I can understand letting it run on a closed track, but why would you want to go faster than 116 mph on a public road with other drivers?
On a track go nuts. On public roads? Thanks for making insurance expensive.
@@lopez_wa I do run the track,I couldn't afford insurance if I got another ticket for doing over 150
My 2001 Mustang had a governor of 105mph. This sucked because I was in Germany and was passed by a station wagon pulling a small utility traler.
Yeah, I think most cars do have some sort of limiter just a little over 100. Part of that is the cheaper tires they put on cars from the factory don't have a super high speed rating to them.
No way will I ever drive any vehicle that takes control out of my hands, these things are dangerous, they cannot make educated decisions based on the situation and or conditions. No way am i going to court due to a error a programmer made however many years ago!
As a person whose career involves doing things that ensures software is formally correct, you're absolutely right!
Neither the manufacturers that make these systems nor the legislators that mandate them will take the steps to ensure this tech is developed in the manner actual safety critical tech should be.
There are extremely few situations where you need to speed to be safe. There are vastly more situations where speeding makes you more likely to kill people. Overall it saves a lot of lives, including the driver and others nearby, simple no brainer. If you wanted to account for those few situations anyway, though, you could set it where you are allowed to speed over the limit up to 0.02% of your total driving time, allowing you to do so no problem for a few seconds a week in a dangerous rare intersection situation that comes up once.
The version described in the video already includes a much more dramatic override system than that anyway, making your complaint moot for the EU versions already (I think it should be more limited override than that)
@@gavinjenkins899so if I’m in the woods and my spouse is hurt and it’s faster for me to drive them to medical help. No thank you.
@@gavinjenkins899
so do you know how we make vehicles safer for the occupants such that sudden stop doesn't minecraft people? roll cages, harnesses and.... seats that actually protect the occupants and the drivers head. Imagine actually looking to an industry that is far more dangerous then the highways but has fewer deaths per km.
at the end of the day it's not the speed of a vehicle that's the problem it's the attentiveness of the driver, the situational awareness of the driver and the conditions of the roads, and or vehicles that drives most accidents. you fix those problems implement technology that actually can save lives, and commit to better driver training, you will see roadway fatalities plummet, and general roadway safety increase. but you have to fix those core issues. or at least reduce them.
@@MadocComadrin this is actually why i very much oppose any system that can take any control out of the drivers hand. it's not about "safety" it's about liability at that point. a malfunctioning system that causes an accident, and the idea that these system can be infallible... or can't become a form or reliance is just.... unnerving to me.
On my regular drive Waze informs me the speed limit is changing to 30 mph, and is isn't. It is rural 55 mph and does not lower for miles at the next town.
Report a map issue & they will send out a local editor to check and modify the map. I’ve done this numerous times because I’ve been using Waze for years, dating back to when it was just a closed beta. Waze is great, but only if we help to keep it great. 😊
@@PW.Skyline.V37 Thanks, it also tells me the wrong exit on a roundabout on the same road.
6:00 Reminds me of the 5th Element movie.
Car Computer - "One point has been revoked from your license. You have 1 point left on your license"
😂
Sounds better than letting drivers who have had their licenses suspended 57 times continue to drive
Looks like I'll be keeping my Explorer a bit longer, if it comes to the USA!
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I am extending this to Stop Lights. There are times I will run a yellow when the pavement is wet, and while I can stop, I am not sure the car behind me will stop in time.
While this may only happen once a year to me, many drivers are on the road. I foresee an unnecessary accident.
"I am not sure the car behind me will stop in time"
it's not running a yellow? The yellow means "Figure out where you need to be"- I do agree you shouldn't be chasing them tho, but thats because each light where I am from is a different length so it will lead you to actually running a red. I also agree, this system takes the ability to save yourself with snap judgements away/
@fk319fk - You don't "run" yellow lights. You make a decision that you can't safely stop in the distance you have. Yellow means "proceed with caution"
Re: The "seat belt chimes" I remember a Chevrolet Vega my family owned in the 1970s that had a system where the car wouldn't start if weight was detected in the seat and the seat belt wasn't fastened. (Cue numerous amusing stories of Thanksgiving turkeys and other groceries needing to be seat belted in the passenger seat before the car would start!) My Father had a conversation with the car dealer and was shown which module underneath the seat to disconnect to disable the system: The mechanic indicated he couldn't legally do the disconnection but the owner of the car could. That "option" lasted about one model year!!
Oh yeah u just reminded me about dodge duster having that feature also 74 ish I think
My favorite was the automatic shoulder belt that wrapped itself around you.
The standard is FMVSS 140, "Intelligent Speed Assist", and is still in development between the FMCSA and NHTSA.
California wants part of this in MY2025, to limit the top speed of a vehicle to 10 MPH over the posted limit.
Speed limiters are already in commercial vehicles. Just depends on your employer.
They are on non commercial vehicles every pickup truck I have driven the last 20+ years is limited to 98 mph
It's not that ppl are speeding, it's that limits are set overly low to enable police to stop everyone anywhere anytime while raising revenue for tickets and collecting anything and everything they want calling it asset forfeiture.
Total BS. Speed limits on interstate are 75-80. , people go 80-85 without getting tickets. Stopping distances at those speeds are > 300 feet! People drive at < 50 feet from the car in front of
@@buffalobilly6046 The highest speed limits in California and the eastern half of the USA are 70mph. Lower in a couple of states. Only three western states have 80mph limits, with Texas having 85 on a toll road on the outskirts of Austin.
That guy you are following will also take ~300 feet to stop unless he inexplicably defies the laws of physics or there is a very sturdy wall across the road. Or you're in the TV show Under the Dome.
Shouldn’t be fooled. California is literally and constantly covered in the orange “construction zone”, “double fine zone”, “55 MPH” signs, and the radar portable signs showing how fast you’re going. They’re everywhere, freeways and highways, north to south, and the majority of the time there’s not a single inkling of anything being worked on, no trucks, equipment, not even a port-potty for months. Actually, maybe a fake porta-potty for effect for the non-regulars. I pass one of these every day. That’s a clear cash-grab. It’s a way of having a state 55 MPH limit without officially having one. And then we watch as people are picked off at double fine rates for no other reason.
@@M1903a4 unfortunately, the car in front of him can stop him very quickly if he plows into it. You don't have to drive any slower to keep a good following distance, and it's much less stressful.
The issue is how speed limits are determined, if memory serves me they set the speed limit to what 85% of people will drive under and the other 15% well those are the speeders. Road design is super important the wider and straighter the roads the faster people feel safe to drive. Which in of it self can be super dangerous, since the vast majority of drivers are amateur's. I do know we all think we are really good drivers but we all see the idiots every day driving and the car behind you see's an idiot in front of them.
When are people going to understand that the issue with speeding is almost entirely a result of the road design. The best way to prevent speeding is to design the roads to desired speed, not turning all cars into surveillance machines.
You have it exactly backwards. The correct solution is to set the speed limit to the design of the road. Highway engineers will tell you the speed limit should be the speed 85% of drivers would use if there was no limit. Obvious exceptions for areas like school zones. That is how it was normally done before the 55mph limit was imposed.
The engineers need to go touch some grass then as the desired speeds on most freeways and highways around me by 85% of drivers is 20-30mph over what's posted.
@@M1903a4 but if you want a certain speed in a certain area, its easiest to just design the road to that speed. like if a residential road is very wide, the solution isn't making the speed limit 100, its adding meridians to narrow the road so drivers naturally drive slower.
I suspect you are correct. I was in Germany on the Autobahn in a rental Audi. Doing 100 mph for miles and was passed by MBZ's and BMW's.
Me and my teenage buddies back in the day learned that all cars had speed limiters on them. It was fun learning what all the different governing speeds were with every car.
I foresee the removal of such limiters as a huge upcoming business for garages…
I foresee the EU making that illegal.
random stops with computers to check... instant confiscation and crushing the car to scrap at expense of owner... folks wont risk it
That would be a 4th amendment violation.
Also, Progressive car insurance has a policy that uses a OBD device to monitor your speed and adjust your rates accordingly. It's not available in California because it was outlawed for discrimination, under their "redlining" law.
Most big truck carriers have their trucks governed typically somewhere between 63-72 mph as it is. Why do we need speedlimiters on trucks? I would say the bigger traffic safety problem is distracted driving( ie texting and driving or handheld cell phone use) and the need for cracking down on that is more important than limiters.
The speed limiters on trucks are for the companies. They are only on big company trucks and not independent owners' trucks. It lowers the insurance cost to mega carriers that hire under-trained truckers.
8:19 many trucks have governors already. When I drove for Werner Enterprises, my company truck was governed at 65.
They'll also be able to turn off your car whenever they want to. Also, they'll be able to drive themselves back to the repo yard.When you don't make a payment.
@@qnbits I'm not sure they thought that far ahead yet
Any sort of computer override of a driver would not be tolerated in the US, full stop. It would be viewed as a restriction on freedom, nanny-statism, and an invasion of privacy. Any attempt to enforce such software would be met with vigorous rebellion... to include a refusal to purchase vehicles with the offending software. Also, people would use their right-to-repair to eliminate such software
even without right to repair people still gonna do it
I have friends who race "daily driver-type" cars (SCCA and drags).
They just buy new EPROMS programmed for higher speeds.
And yes, they do have the proper rated tires for the speed. But then again, they don't street race! Track only!
I've gotta road near me, there's a 45mph sign. Maybe 60 feet after it, there's a 35mph sign. Cops love to sit there. 😂
That is called a speed trap, favored among fly speck towns with no other source of income - out of staters are the favorite prey.
How much more will we allow big brother to control our lives??? What is happening to our freedom??? In 50 years there will be no more freedom. We will be forced to drive EV's that are controlled by computers. Forced to live in certain area's. Forced to eat certain foods....where does it end??? These are reasons to NOT give up our guns.
@@carlfromtheoc1788 If you're from out of state, and get ensnared in such a trap, then sue 'em for everything they've got.
Steve, your tee shirt is a thumb in their eye. A 1970 Dodge Super Bee with a 440 6 pack was pretty much a standard configuration and would do 55 mph out of the garage. Love your sense of humor.
Had this back in the 80's - The engines couldn't go any faster.
Referred to as a "governor". Rental cars and trucks usually.
Lol
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Military trucks had them and I am sure that speed governors are still on those vehicles.
You could rip out a lot of the emissions control stuff, adjust the timing, and install some after-market engine components and often get a significant performance improvements.
These systems are going to be screwy. Even if hackers don't manage to turn highways into 25mph zones as a prank, these things will break and cause breakdowns. Gonna have to pay extra for features that just add more things to cause problems.
A computer having that control over brakes is a bad idea. Guarantee someone is going to have a glitch, manufacturer will know but not issue recalls and the owner will likely have to pay for any damages because it likely wont be covered by insurance.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this sounds like it could be a violation of our right to travel
Sounding like that movie Demolishion Man where tickets are automatically generated
That's the idea: STP (Screw The Public).
They were on older cars too .. my 1987 topped out at 112mph. You could use the cruise control to bypass.
We need to sue to stop this. Auto braking has almost killed me twice.
No it was your lack of ability to drive.
@@xcalibertrekker6693I can see this being a huge issue in places that gets snow.. it’ll send you into the ditch
It's been on commercial vehicles for over a decade. It's currently up to the carrier to set the limiter where they seem fit. Canadian commercial vehicles are limited to 65mph. Newer trucks can be programmed to set the limiters to speed signs (at least the signs that the camera can recognize)
They brake for shadows.
We had an event recently where there were temporary speed limit signs due to road works in progress. The normal speed limit on that road is 40 mph. So this car with it's speed limiter kept the cars speed to 40mph. So naturally the drivers foot is just on the floor, relying on the limiter to keep the speed within the limit. Then they came to the temporary sign which read "30". Unfortunately this was misread by the system as 80 so the speed immediately shot up to 80mph. Also, the car failed to notice that the drivers foot had come off of the throttle. It wasn't until the driver pushed down hard on the brakes that it finally slowed down. Fortunately nobody was injured but it could have been serious.
Those systems seem dangerous to drivers ESPECIALLY in emergency situations.
I am not sure how many emergency situations there are today that would require excessive speeding with the advent of the cell phone and 911 service. I do remember growing up way before cell phones where people needed to rush to hospitals, now it is much safer to call 911 for medical service. Although I do know that there is a large portion of the United States that is wide open country and the old way is the only way.. So it depends on where you live.
ems response in my location is 45 minutes, nearest hospital is 30 minutes following speed limits, ive made that trip in 13 minutes a few times for various accidents that have happened on the farm and home, pulled over once and escorted to the hospital without any charges. country living is just different. ill be restoring old cars forevermore if this becomes common
9:28 first car was a 69 charger, what a time to be alive lol
Among his more exotic ones (Lotus, Porsche etc) my brother had a performance enhanced '67 GTX 440. And he was a very generous brother. He'd leave it with me when he'd go away on vacation etc. I've driven a lot of nice cars, but still, nothing quite like the feel and sound of opening up that monster V8. And my one experience of leaving a cop receding in the rear view mirror. And going airborne at about 120-130 (the speedos were useless at those speeds, bouncing wildly) via the rise on a highway bridge, as luck would have it, at such a perfect angle it landed under control. Oh, and watching the gas tank empty at about 6 mpg if you did (15.5 was the best I ever got, trying). When the highest octane cost about $5 to fill the tank. Yeah, memories.
And he's wearing a Super Bee T-shirt while telling us.
for me it was a 66 GTO
@@patfrederick7327 Tell me LOL
'66 comet
1st, Thank you Steve for supporting Truckers. After Canada mandated Speed Limiters on Trucks, I stopped pulling Canadian loads. The FMCSA is trying again to put Speed Limiters on US trucks. The Trump Administration put a stop to the Rule Making, but now they're trying it again..
What happens if I get into a "Duel" scenario?
I don't want to be like Dennis Hopper in an anemic AMC Hornet being chased by an insane trucker through the desert
Dennis Weaver in a Plymouth Valiant.
Thr semi has a speed limiter
Petition the legislators to force cars to include an "anti road rage and stalking" system that automatically injects the driver with mild sedatives if it detects malicious intent!
@@MadocComadrin That stinks of 'Rules for thee, but not for me." Besides, the more complex the computer controlled 'safety system', the greater the risk of a potentially lethal malfunction.
They better make it a crime to disable those systems, because if I ever buy a new car no such system is going to be active on my car.
Shhh the people that cook these things up are probably stupid enough not to think of making tampering illegal, don't give em ideas. lol
it would probably be part of the computer and you wouldn't be able to do anything
@@ICRangerT People replace and reprogram car computers pretty regularly.
@@skittlemenow it depends on how the program is written, one may or may not be able to disable it
@@ICRangerTActually it has nothing to do with how the program is written. Your thinking if it's random access memory or read only memory. If the car's pc is read only and unalterable then just replace it. Not that tough, though might be expensive.
I fully support anyone who hacks their car to disable this fascist nonsense! My car tries to tell me the speed limit; turns out, the thing is stupid and doesn't realize that the speed limit on a Saturday in July in a school zone IS NOT 20 mph! We've seen how autonomous cars are doing; do we really think the AI can figure out the custom speed limits?
Just because you don't like it, does not make it "fascist nonsense". Now stop throwing around buzzwords for no reason.
@matirion Forced government control over existing liberties is fascism, how about you stop downplaying the reality of government over reach and steps we are taking towards tyranny. I bet you probably have problems with the first and second amendments too eh?
@@matirion How is this not fascism? It is literally trying to control people! Your good intentions don't matter!
Good morning Steve just was watching your video here. I’ve been a truck driver for 30 years and to give you an inside scoop they already have speed limit for big trucks. They had these for about 5- 10 years already .