It's the Epimenides paradox. Priest says all who think they are correct are in fact wrong. Priest thinks he is correct, therefore he is wrong. So all who think they are correct, are in fact correct. Priest thinks he's correct, therefore he's correct. So all who think they are correct are in fact wrong. Priest thinks he's correct therefore he is wrong... And on and on. It a sort of circular reasoning fallacy. The fallacy being that the definition used in an argument cannot be an argument that concludes the definition is wrong. That's also wisdom, just not in the way you think it is.
@@Teddypally like he said, there are barriers in the English language which don’t allow this unless a tedious amount of grammar is used to make it make sense
@@somewhereoverit711 it is any person who claims that by a certain plan, you can achieve the goal you have in mind by doing what they did Except that isnt the way, it is just there own conceptualized idea that worked for them
Not a good quote...we have found the gold havent we? Imagine those who said there should be gold here as seeking the truth....and once they found the gold there they also found the truth. This quote doesnt hold. To vague....sounds like to me dude who wrote it just wanted to sound good and not be questioned.
@@Beyodd And that reveals what drives people to either lie to themselves or to be honest with themselves: You only plan for the future, when you are convinced that you have a future. Regardless of wether or not you're right. When you're not convinced that you have (much of) a future, you don't plan for it either. If you're convinced you have no future, you're always going to chose solutions that work in the short term, regardless of the fact that you'll have to pay a heavy price for it later, in the future. You'll be convinced that you'll be long gone, before the bill comes, so to speak.
Things have became so clear now. I was disappointed with how I was living my own life for a long time, and I now I see why. This was extraordinarily eye openin. I have a better perspective now. Thank you
“Above all, don't lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.” ~ Fyodor Dostoevsky 💪🏻🚀
@@jojopoeticstyle1224 What? Knowledge is of the present as well. Hold a coin and let it fall to the ground - you now have knowledge of gravity. I fail to see what any claim of wisdom has to do with the present.
People constantly lie to themselves simply because they seem to have lost the ability to actually see themselves, their thoughts, their actions, instead they are too busy looking at others, judging others as it’s an easier thing to do. It takes lots of courage to be honest to oneself.
That’s my daily goal and current struggle. I feel if I can look at myself honestly, not just observing my greater ideas and actions resulting in successes, but also the really ignorant and embarrassing decisions that led to various troubles ect, I make a breakthrough in bringing my life into spiritual and psychological balance. Im convinced spiritually, the moment I can truthfully assess myself and stare into my own darkness without running away, it loses its power and my life will lighten from the inside out.
Sometimes the ones who have a truth they tell of themselves is a truth that is self destructive though so they must lie to themselves especially if they are on a path to recovery/self improvement. Saying things such as "ugly" "stupid" or something may be exactly how the person believes they are calling themselves beautiful and intelligent when they in fact aren't is a lie but it's good for the spirit and mind.
I think what Dostoevsky meant was that we know facts, see events, feel emotions, but we deny that they exist or don't matter. We can see details or errors but choose to ignore them thinking some things are ignorable when they may be not. This happens all the time when we take shortcuts or refuse to own up to mistakes. I don't think it is about mistaking knowledge for truth. I think it is about pretending to be ignorant of the truth to not be seen as culpable. Once a person knows something and it's associated consequences, one is immediately responsible for the consequences, particularly if there is no one else looking. By pretending, for example, you are not aware of your own emotions and faults, you can claim ignorance, be absolved, and even blame others for your own emotions and faults. That's an observable and common human behavior, just like people trying to pretend they know or don't know or people claiming the truth. While I can agree that knowledge is a human perception and truth exists irrespective to human perception or understanding, I don't think that is the takeaway from Dostoevsky. Because to even be cognizant that we lie requires us to know the truth, otherwise we could not even perceive of the self-deception. And, non-cognizance is not the same as self-deception. Self-deception requires knowing the truth. How can one otherwise know one is deceiving one's self on purpose or accidentally?
I totally agree. And maybe saying that the truth is unknowable is also untrue, it's maybe more precise to say that I don't know whether the truth is knowable or not.
@@viniciusgarcia3452 Exactly! Who am I to say anything about the truth? I don't know everything. All I can do is try to know everything. Even then, I just have to make gross generalizations instead of reading a library full of books. And, I would have to work hard to discover every single scientific mystery all at the same time. I don't think it is anyone's job to be all knowing and all present. Certainly not mine!
I remember life when I lied to myself. I consciously didn’t know I was living a lie. Subconsciously my truths would slip out at times but they were coincidental at best so I thought. Now that I don’t lie to myself and accept my place in life and accept that sometimes I struggle with it I tend to experience a more fulfilling existence. I hope that makes sense. I’m basically disagreeing with what you said. It seems like you need to organize your thoughts more clearly. You seem confused Be well 💫🌟
Lie to oneself is a daily practice we endure it when we are obliged to suppress our feelings to fit in . We keep our true emotions away to the point we end up not knowing what we want and how we are at this point. Dostoevsky wants us to reveal our feelings and thoughts no matter how difficult the situation is. To cease love is a result of not recognizing our real feelings and ending up with losing our self-respect. The beauty of Literature is in its openness to all kinds of interpretation and my understanding and yours of the quote are part of a whole picture.
This is one of the advice that my dad always tells me, never lie to yourself. As it seems like the problem that I face is solved, but actually it was just saved for another day to blow up
Nice video 👍 “A map is not the territory it represents" - Alfred Korzybski, father of general semantics. Map shows river, forest but it does not contain any water or tree as the Territory. Our perceived knowledge ("map") of the reality ("territory") is an abstraction of the reality, not the reality itself. The problem is we forget that we made our map. Knowledge both liberating but also a trap.
There was a time where I was young and in my first relationship. That quote at the beginning of the video about losing respect for not only yourself but everyone else while also losing the ability to love hits home like crazy. And I bet I wouldn't have understood the quote, especially the part about losing respect for others, if I hadn't experienced it so vividly myself
This is especially relevant in our current age of relativism! (Relevatism: the doctrine that knowledge, truth, and morality exist in relation to culture, society, or historical context, and are not absolute.) Thank you so much for sharing this. I'm glad I found your channel!
I finished The Brothers Karamazov a few months ago, and it instantly became one of my favorite books ever. And I don’t have many favorites haha. It felt enlightening and therapeutic
I sent this to my friends . This was so good. I didnt understand at the beginning but once you explained I actually understood. I needed to see something like this . Makes my challenges a bit clear to tackle now . Thank you!
Discovered this channel a few months ago. Helped me overcome a heartbreaking treason. Easy to follow, even for non native English speakers. I’d love to hear / read about your analysis of the second part of the citation : ‘ and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.’ I understood that when you lie to yourself, you can’t see the truth anymore but I can’t see the link with loss of respect and loss for love. Thank you !
Anna... Simply read the book Brothers Karamazov and you will find your answer there. The book is amazing, very powerful, and rich from a psychological perspective. It's one of the best novels ever written by a human being.
This video has reincarnated my whole perspective to understand that you were not wrong, it was the knowledge of yours at that time which did served the truth. Pen down a new map and pursue the destination again, and if failed again, don’t think you failed, it was just your knowledge that did serve the truth.
this one's mind-blowing. the knowledge and truth shouldn't use interchangeably. what we know is not always the truth, we should test it and prove it to ourselves. so we must be open to change and feed our minds for true knowledge.
From a very long time I was feeling that I was not being whom I am. After seeing this video this became a little more clear. I think I'm a victim of spiritual narcissism.
I found this quite interesting. I've never thought about how the knowledge that we have isn't particularly true. Like my plans and aspirations in life or different methods of how to live my life are not truth. They're all simply maps that could help guide me to the truth. I think about how there's a lot of different flavors of philosophy or religion. At times they can claim to be the truth but the reality is that they are maps to it. You have to follow that map to see if it's correct or not. I've tried to use many different productivity systems and they show to be the truth but they're really just a map. Some systems I have found to be valuable in bringing me to where I want to go and others actually aren't the map that was able to guide me to truth. Just my thoughts on the matter and beautifully made video.
Being present in the moment divulges ths truth . Not the past or the future but the present examination of consciousness. The present however inspires belief in a truth and the knowledge acquired becomes a reference of a former truth that may or may not still exist. Hold on to your positivity and pride.
@@angrydragon4574 yes, if something has worked time after time and always gets you to a certain destination, then it can be spoken of as truth! Like “once born one must die”… truth “Love prevails over fear & hate”… truth or else humanity won’t exist…
@@angrydragon4574 I am just telling you examples of universal truths! Personal truths can’t be spoken of, if it only worked for you and got you to your destination! It’s only your truth and not universal! That is what I think the video meant.
I feel like this is true. We have our ego and we have our other self, seeing its reflection and offering the possibility of introspection ; It is a part of us that’s coming to life, and as other truth and knowledge, it has some to teach us all. We must embrace this deceptive aspects of our being to be able to move and grow better.
Absolutely superb! I'm so happy to see something this high quality from someone this early in their career. The world is yours, my friend. I think so, anyway. 🎁
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It's the Epimenides paradox.
Priest says all who think they are correct are in fact wrong.
Priest thinks he is correct, therefore he is wrong.
So all who think they are correct, are in fact correct.
Priest thinks he's correct, therefore he's correct.
So all who think they are correct are in fact wrong.
Priest thinks he's correct therefore he is wrong... And on and on.
It a sort of circular reasoning fallacy. The fallacy being that the definition used in an argument cannot be an argument that concludes the definition is wrong.
That's also wisdom, just not in the way you think it is.
@@Teddypally like he said, there are barriers in the English language which don’t allow this unless a tedious amount of grammar is used to make it make sense
@@coldendorfman4751
If you believe it is the English language then suggest a language that doesn't have barriers. :)
_"Trust those who seek the truth but doubt those who say they have found it."_
-André Gide
Isn't this all youtube videos about how they found the secret to success?
@@somewhereoverit711 it is any person who claims that by a certain plan, you can achieve the goal you have in mind by doing what they did
Except that isnt the way, it is just there own conceptualized idea that worked for them
Arianna Grande?
Wasn’t that guy a pederast? I’d doubt him for that reason.
Not a good quote...we have found the gold havent we? Imagine those who said there should be gold here as seeking the truth....and once they found the gold there they also found the truth. This quote doesnt hold. To vague....sounds like to me dude who wrote it just wanted to sound good and not be questioned.
Lying to yourself makes life easier in the short term but impossible in the long term
This was put beautifully.
Who says life has a long term?
@@Beyodd by long term, I don’t think he meant 300 years later 😂
@@Beyodd And that reveals what drives people to either lie to themselves or to be honest with themselves:
You only plan for the future, when you are convinced that you have a future. Regardless of wether or not you're right. When you're not convinced that you have (much of) a future, you don't plan for it either. If you're convinced you have no future, you're always going to chose solutions that work in the short term, regardless of the fact that you'll have to pay a heavy price for it later, in the future. You'll be convinced that you'll be long gone, before the bill comes, so to speak.
Bearable*
Socrates said it best: "I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing."
Things have became so clear now. I was disappointed with how I was living my own life for a long time, and I now I see why. This was extraordinarily eye openin. I have a better perspective now. Thank you
wait i have seen your videos,you gonna start uploading again?
“Above all, don't lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.” ~ Fyodor Dostoevsky 💪🏻🚀
Yea I think that's in the video lmao, thanks
@@Enlightened0ne He's just commenting so his channel can get noticed. Added nothing of value to the video lmfao.
@@Enlightened0ne 😂😂
Dostojevski also said that he thought hell was the inability to love, it makes sense in this context.
Too many people treat their opinions and thoughts as the truth
True.
Be honest with yourselves guys.
You have no idea how true this is. So much so that we had to create a name for them and they are called Karen's
While true, also note that sometimes knowledge is also true.
@@jojopoeticstyle1224 What? Knowledge is of the present as well. Hold a coin and let it fall to the ground - you now have knowledge of gravity. I fail to see what any claim of wisdom has to do with the present.
People constantly lie to themselves simply because they seem to have lost the ability to actually see themselves, their thoughts, their actions, instead they are too busy looking at others, judging others as it’s an easier thing to do. It takes lots of courage to be honest to oneself.
That’s my daily goal and current struggle. I feel if I can look at myself honestly, not just observing my greater ideas and actions resulting in successes, but also the really ignorant and embarrassing decisions that led to various troubles ect, I make a breakthrough in bringing my life into spiritual and psychological balance. Im convinced spiritually, the moment I can truthfully assess myself and stare into my own darkness without running away, it loses its power and my life will lighten from the inside out.
Sometimes the ones who have a truth they tell of themselves is a truth that is self destructive though so they must lie to themselves especially if they are on a path to recovery/self improvement. Saying things such as "ugly" "stupid" or something may be exactly how the person believes they are calling themselves beautiful and intelligent when they in fact aren't is a lie but it's good for the spirit and mind.
When I watched your video, I felt a great desire to learn English. Thank you very much..from an Arab follower
"Being upright and true to yourself" is among the qualities the Buddha praised a lot when you want any kind of personal progress
Be honest with yourselves guys.
Phew. All I gotta do is what chubby Buddha does, and I'll be free.
@@gen-x-zeke8446 I'd rather follow the lean Buddha, the chubby one was just a random monk from China
@@TheDhammaHub How many of them are there? Also, what's that smell?
@@gen-x-zeke8446 have some respect for Buddha
I think what Dostoevsky meant was that we know facts, see events, feel emotions, but we deny that they exist or don't matter. We can see details or errors but choose to ignore them thinking some things are ignorable when they may be not. This happens all the time when we take shortcuts or refuse to own up to mistakes. I don't think it is about mistaking knowledge for truth. I think it is about pretending to be ignorant of the truth to not be seen as culpable. Once a person knows something and it's associated consequences, one is immediately responsible for the consequences, particularly if there is no one else looking. By pretending, for example, you are not aware of your own emotions and faults, you can claim ignorance, be absolved, and even blame others for your own emotions and faults. That's an observable and common human behavior, just like people trying to pretend they know or don't know or people claiming the truth. While I can agree that knowledge is a human perception and truth exists irrespective to human perception or understanding, I don't think that is the takeaway from Dostoevsky. Because to even be cognizant that we lie requires us to know the truth, otherwise we could not even perceive of the self-deception. And, non-cognizance is not the same as self-deception. Self-deception requires knowing the truth. How can one otherwise know one is deceiving one's self on purpose or accidentally?
Could not agree more. Very well said.
I agree, there seems to be some personal ideology being projected into dostoevsky's work.
I totally agree.
And maybe saying that the truth is unknowable is also untrue, it's maybe more precise to say that I don't know whether the truth is knowable or not.
@@viniciusgarcia3452 Exactly! Who am I to say anything about the truth? I don't know everything. All I can do is try to know everything. Even then, I just have to make gross generalizations instead of reading a library full of books. And, I would have to work hard to discover every single scientific mystery all at the same time. I don't think it is anyone's job to be all knowing and all present. Certainly not mine!
I remember life when I lied to myself. I consciously didn’t know I was living a lie. Subconsciously my truths would slip out at times but they were coincidental at best so I thought.
Now that I don’t lie to myself and accept my place in life and accept that sometimes I struggle with it I tend to experience a more fulfilling existence. I hope that makes sense. I’m basically disagreeing with what you said. It seems like you need to organize your thoughts more clearly. You seem confused
Be well 💫🌟
Lie to oneself is a daily practice we endure it when we are obliged to suppress our feelings to fit in . We keep our true emotions away to the point we end up not knowing what we want and how we are at this point. Dostoevsky wants us to reveal our feelings and thoughts no matter how difficult the situation is. To cease love is a result of not recognizing our real feelings and ending up with losing our self-respect. The beauty of Literature is in its openness to all kinds of interpretation and my understanding and yours of the quote are part of a whole picture.
This is one of the advice that my dad always tells me, never lie to yourself. As it seems like the problem that I face is solved, but actually it was just saved for another day to blow up
I can listen to this all day 🧠💗
Nice video 👍 “A map is not the territory it represents" - Alfred Korzybski, father of general semantics.
Map shows river, forest but it does not contain any water or tree as the Territory. Our perceived knowledge ("map") of the reality ("territory") is an abstraction of the reality, not the reality itself.
The problem is we forget that we made our map.
Knowledge both liberating but also a trap.
Yeah. If you like this guy's comment, and want to actually learn how to _do_ General-Semantics, my channel has a 20-minute primer on it. Cheers.
River water example is so good
@@AdityaEnergySolutions Thank you 🙏
There was a time where I was young and in my first relationship. That quote at the beginning of the video about losing respect for not only yourself but everyone else while also losing the ability to love hits home like crazy. And I bet I wouldn't have understood the quote, especially the part about losing respect for others, if I hadn't experienced it so vividly myself
- The truth changes overtime
This is especially relevant in our current age of relativism!
(Relevatism: the doctrine that knowledge, truth, and morality exist in relation to culture, society, or historical context, and are not absolute.)
Thank you so much for sharing this. I'm glad I found your channel!
The example on how believing you know the truth prevents you from seeing it was... what I needed
Thank you so much! It was the perfect timing for me :)
Same here
And so trust wisdom.. Because wisdom will always give you a reference to test your knowledge against it.
WOW, I can't stop watching this video....Fully of advises!!! Priceless
I watch your videos and like them a lot. It's a extraordinary school of thoughts. FROM IRAN THANK YOU A LOT
I finished The Brothers Karamazov a few months ago, and it instantly became one of my favorite books ever. And I don’t have many favorites haha. It felt enlightening and therapeutic
I sent this to my friends . This was so good. I didnt understand at the beginning but once you explained I actually understood. I needed to see something like this . Makes my challenges a bit clear to tackle now .
Thank you!
I make promises to myself to attain my strength and willpower.
I like this teaching methodology using these dialogues.
Discovered this channel a few months ago. Helped me overcome a heartbreaking treason. Easy to follow, even for non native English speakers. I’d love to hear / read about your analysis of the second part of the citation :
‘ and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love.’
I understood that when you lie to yourself, you can’t see the truth anymore but I can’t see the link with loss of respect and loss for love.
Thank you !
Anna... Simply read the book Brothers Karamazov and you will find your answer there. The book is amazing, very powerful, and rich from a psychological perspective. It's one of the best novels ever written by a human being.
This was awesome and there are a lot of inspiring comments. That makes me feel hopeful for humanity to a certain degree
Very wise conversation
This video has reincarnated my whole perspective to understand that you were not wrong, it was the knowledge of yours at that time which did served the truth. Pen down a new map and pursue the destination again, and if failed again, don’t think you failed, it was just your knowledge that did serve the truth.
this one's mind-blowing. the knowledge and truth shouldn't use interchangeably. what we know is not always the truth, we should test it and prove it to ourselves. so we must be open to change and feed our minds for true knowledge.
In my opinion, this was more profound than Fyodor Dostoyevsky's quote. It shows how to apply the quote to everyday life. Thanks for sharing.
Such an enjoyable, valuable video and the comment section!
thank you so much for this summary!
Thank you for explaining this. I've known this information for a while but never had it formulated in this way, thank you for that.
A very clear and amazing understanding
From a very long time I was feeling that I was not being whom I am. After seeing this video this became a little more clear. I think I'm a victim of spiritual narcissism.
I found this quite interesting. I've never thought about how the knowledge that we have isn't particularly true. Like my plans and aspirations in life or different methods of how to live my life are not truth. They're all simply maps that could help guide me to the truth. I think about how there's a lot of different flavors of philosophy or religion. At times they can claim to be the truth but the reality is that they are maps to it. You have to follow that map to see if it's correct or not. I've tried to use many different productivity systems and they show to be the truth but they're really just a map. Some systems I have found to be valuable in bringing me to where I want to go and others actually aren't the map that was able to guide me to truth.
Just my thoughts on the matter and beautifully made video.
interesting i came to this realization over time by myself through experience and intuition however it's nice to see i'm not the only one
I was lost because my to myself lies drowned me, till my truths saved me. And now I have no hatred but only love and yearnings.
Thankyou for the Video and information, these are so valuable content and I'm grateful for this.
please keep doing this, really love your content
I might binge watch Freedom in Thought
Wonderful video and nice perspective about knowledge, truth and true.
Terrific video! Thank you for posting.
'Crime and punishment' one of the greatest pieces of literature ever written. If you have the time read it
I'm kinda glad I saw this video... Glad your still making video...✌️
This is so beautiful for my children to watch
thank you for the amazing content! Bless
I think I needed this. Thank you.
I just love your videos,so deep and thoughtful.....keep going man love your work ❤️
Thanks for this. I got what I needed.
Thank you.
Great video.. Learning so much from these videos
INFORMATIVE / MOTIVATING / EMPOWERING.......
Everything other than the 1+1=2 example was very illuminating and wise.
rhank u bro :) love Dostoevsky :)
Thank you, I needed this.
This chanel is beyond great ness 👑
Keep up the great work man your videos help me clear my head and mental spirals never give up and keep on grinding
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thank you.. i just have pain .. and want to heal ..
Great content, thank you
Damn this channel is gold
Thanks for sharing
Just love it! Much needed for me now! Please keep doing videos.. I really need ur videos!
"I think, therefore I am"
The man who ceases to seek the truth but still loves the knowledge has reached an unheard point of freedom in thought.
So what is the truth then?
Thank you
Thank youuu!
The answer depends on what you're looking for, i like that
Great vid! 💖
Most important lesson ever
Thanks!
Thank you brother 👍🏼
Man I love your work!! Keep up these amazing videos!! Thank you
Knowledge is a tool.
Great video!
Thankyou
Interesting. Very interesting.
Being present in the moment divulges ths truth . Not the past or the future but the present examination of consciousness. The present however inspires belief in a truth and the knowledge acquired becomes a reference of a former truth that may or may not still exist. Hold on to your positivity and pride.
damn! you broke it down so well!
"Truth is never spoken"... you have said heavy words my man... amazing explanation... enlightening !
Truth CAN be spoken but experienced is another thing.
@@angrydragon4574 yes, if something has worked time after time and always gets you to a certain destination, then it can be spoken of as truth!
Like “once born one must die”… truth
“Love prevails over fear & hate”… truth or else humanity won’t exist…
@@naughtynoodle3271 What does fear have to do with this? You're speaking strangely.
@@angrydragon4574 I am just telling you examples of universal truths!
Personal truths can’t be spoken of, if it only worked for you and got you to your destination! It’s only your truth and not universal! That is what I think the video meant.
@@naughtynoodle3271 Well, technically, your truth could be considered as a part of the universal truth since all of us exist in the universe...
Thank you!
Thank you so much for this video. The information is too valuable. How nice to see how others try to help the word with these important matters
As a Domino's delivery driver in an area that often has constructions blocking the ways, this has been very helpful.
I feel like this is true. We have our ego and we have our other self, seeing its reflection and offering the possibility of introspection ; It is a part of us that’s coming to life, and as other truth and knowledge, it has some to teach us all. We must embrace this deceptive aspects of our being to be able to move and grow better.
I like these types of videos by you... You are great man
This vídeo reminded me about David Hume's Problem of Induction
This is knowledge
Absolutely superb! I'm so happy to see something this high quality from someone this early in their career. The world is yours, my friend. I think so, anyway. 🎁
Explained it beautifully
Wow!!! This is awesome! The amount of effort you put into create this! Wow!!! Thanks a lot 😃
I found this directly related to the video of never follow someone else's map
Wow 💥❤️
nicely done
This is so powerful
This is so profound to me.
Very in line with Jung's ideas of the shadow self as well.