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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • 1 year on hormones! This is a HUGE milestone in the life of a transperson, and this is my second time hitting it. (Detransition Vlog) My life has felt like chaos at times and like I had no control over many events which happened, but I fought through it/them. I created a dream life as an actor/model, which I was very proud to live, and I gave it up. Because I'm trans, and I learned to embrace my truth. This is no choice, this is simply who I was created to be..and I'm proud to be her.
    Xx - Natalie. :)
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Комментарии • 140

  • @Totsjana
    @Totsjana 6 лет назад +42

    Some of these comments are absolutely horrendous. You look beautiful, and I hope you have all the happiness your heart can hold. If you should need a friend, I am here.

  • @tanickasinclair7035
    @tanickasinclair7035 3 года назад +1

    This is Jennifer Sinclair. You are beautiful. I hope that you can make looks secondary now to what you want to do for your career in your life. Focus on that. Don't think about your looks anymore except for exercising, bathibg, putting on clean clothes, and brushing your hair. No more. Focus on school.

  • @IThinkItsForYou
    @IThinkItsForYou 6 лет назад +27

    A cute guy transforms into a beautiful girl! I'm sooo happy for you. I can't even begin to imagine what you've been through. I'm a gay guy who grew up in the 90s and that was hard enough, growing up feeling different to most others. But to be in a body that you know isn't the real you in today's world must be a challenge like no other. You and others being brave enough to go through your transitions and share your inspirational stories are the ones that will be remembered for years to come. We'll get a free and equal world one day where people can be who they are meant to be and it will be celebrated and no one will have to live in fear and it's thanks to people like you. I hope you enjoy every second of being the beautiful woman you were meant to be, it's like watching the transformation of a beautiful butterfly!

    • @theapostleofpeace
      @theapostleofpeace 6 лет назад +2

      Wow, this really made me tear up. Trans gay gay here. Sometimes it's hard to find acceptance in the gay community but give me hope.

    • @fullup91
      @fullup91 6 лет назад +1

      @@theapostleofpeace Hey buddy... I'm a cis man who likes men and any type of man is welcome. My mate is married to a trans man and they're both very happy... so don't let 'the community" bother you... just find understanding individuals.... and that will be your community.

  • @zombie_ghandi215
    @zombie_ghandi215 4 года назад +3

    started HRT 3 month ago and this is the kind of timeline that motivate a lot, thx :)

  • @kuntarirustiyani6752
    @kuntarirustiyani6752 6 лет назад +25

    I was watch your d-trans and just a second i watch your change to natalie again.. It's so confused

  • @ruthiedavie8090
    @ruthiedavie8090 6 лет назад +71

    u were one hot guy😢😢..daamn

  • @belizeguy
    @belizeguy 6 лет назад +12

    What an impressive slideshow! You have got to be happy that you have these pictures . Thank You for being brave enough to share all this.

    • @je7553
      @je7553 5 лет назад

      * freakshow

    • @byronthomas1668
      @byronthomas1668 5 лет назад

      Someone who is suffering from delusions. Needs serious counseling.
      And therapy here.
      And what about getting older?
      And this transitioning?
      And the de-transitioning too?
      I see someone in a lot of unnecessary mental illness.
      And unnecessary suffering from hormones. Without serious counseling, I can see why the transgender comunnity has such a high suicide rate. ( Which is at 40-50% .)
      The male and female genders have the responsibility and obligations to marry.
      And the responsibility to procreate.
      Thank you for reading this.
      Byron Thomas

  • @TheMightyKilokahn
    @TheMightyKilokahn 6 лет назад +1

    Had a coworker who is trans FTM. I saw how miserable she was until she transitioned, and after, he was really happy. You were gorgeous as a guy and as a woman you're equally as beautiful. Keep that shine of yours glowing so bright so it could light up the sky. 🤗

  • @sternchen1965st
    @sternchen1965st 6 лет назад +29

    the music is horrible

    • @grlbydesign
      @grlbydesign  6 лет назад +2

      LOL sorry?

    • @nefelibata4190
      @nefelibata4190 6 лет назад +7

      Agreed, it's fucking terrible.

    • @orangecolour43
      @orangecolour43 6 лет назад +3

      exactly. i don't mean to hate but you should choose better music next time

    • @sweetange7553
      @sweetange7553 5 лет назад

      @@grlbydesign Dear Natalie Day, don't feel bad for my question but I am a little bit confused, can you eplain to me: you were born a boy then transitioned to a girl and now you are transitioning to a boy again? I am from Africa where in general the transgender and gay things are rare and never talked about due to our belief and culture. Thank you.

  • @rickoceallachain364
    @rickoceallachain364 5 лет назад

    You look beautiful and happy, Natalie. Don't let the haters get you down.

  • @darianreid6805
    @darianreid6805 6 лет назад

    Seriously--wow! Natalie, you look incredible and you've come so far. Your mind, heart and body are falling into alignment beautifully. It's because of women like you that I'm so optimistic about my own journey. It's a pity that these changes are so gradual, but wow are they worth it.

  • @spaceeout
    @spaceeout 6 лет назад

    Please don’t listen to any of these dumbasses commenting dumbass things. You know who you are and you look AMAAAZZING !!!!! So so so so brave for you to put your story on RUclips. You’re a HERO !! Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. You are valid, beautiful, strong, and important!!!!!!

  • @almabenali
    @almabenali 6 лет назад +1

    Beautiful, you’re very blessed because you’re beautiful no matter what. . Beautiful man gorgeous woman . As a woman I don’t like any part of my looks . So wish I could transform into someone beautiful and loveable. Thanks for sharing, you’re a positive role model for all people. Best of luck ❣️

  • @theapostleofpeace
    @theapostleofpeace 6 лет назад +1

    I'm so glad to see you happy now. I'm only 4 months into my transition (1st time) and I'm happy with my results so far but I'm impatient. I just want to legally change my name, gender, get top surgery and live as I have always wanted to live. Your story is so inspiring.

  • @ReeRee_is_watching_you
    @ReeRee_is_watching_you 6 лет назад +1

    I love how you are accepting all of your stages... You are a very beautiful woman! However, I also love the "weird" stages in which you look a little bit like David Bowie...😍

  • @nikolateslaize
    @nikolateslaize 6 лет назад

    I just watch your detransition and transition again video and read those comments that made me sad and angry. In that video I can see all that you've been gone through. I think all those people made you feel that way must be ashamed. You are beautiful. And I am so happy that you resisted and survived.

  • @eatymceatison97
    @eatymceatison97 6 лет назад +1

    I hope technology will improve so dramatically one day during your life that you can actually look like a real woman. It must be awful to still have so many masculine traits (and I DON'T mean that in an offensive way), though you seem confident enough not to let that bother you too much. Sending you love, you're a courageous person.

    • @happyemoji6553
      @happyemoji6553 6 лет назад

      Dumb Fukk Your passive aggressiveness needs a little more work. What kind of technology are you talking about? Trans people can look exactly the way they want to whether from ftm or mtf. They can even look better than the cis gender people. Saying “real woman” isn’t going to make her feel less of a woman. All she needs to do is continue using her meds and she’s already a beautiful and real woman. You on the other hand, are not a real person.

    • @eatymceatison97
      @eatymceatison97 6 лет назад +3

      @@happyemoji6553 Her outward appearance is pretty manly. Sugarcoat it as much as you want. And you can't look "better than a "cis woman". Better than what "cis" woman? Just because I refuse to use a nonsensical word such as "cis", does not make me passive aggressive.

    • @happyemoji6553
      @happyemoji6553 6 лет назад

      Dumb Fukk Well she’s still in the beginning of the process. It takes time. You can check with her a year or two later and she’s going to look very “feminine”

  • @regionaldonaldson3546
    @regionaldonaldson3546 5 лет назад

    You blossomed well. Its called the inner blossoming like a beautiful flower. Nothing but a good journey for you.god bless you.😊

  • @ellenrichardson8701
    @ellenrichardson8701 5 лет назад +1

    So now that you've transitioned are you straight, gay or bi ?

  • @iammisanthrope7764
    @iammisanthrope7764 6 лет назад

    Wow! What a journey. Now, You go girl!!! Love you!!!!

  • @tinglelingaling6
    @tinglelingaling6 6 лет назад +7

    Thanks for sharing. I thought you were beautiful in your first video. Now you seem happier which makes you even more beautiful. Always just do you.

  • @hellevelle2072
    @hellevelle2072 6 лет назад +25

    Hé was a hot Guy with a messy mind

  • @hocuspocus111
    @hocuspocus111 6 лет назад +1

    you're not a lucky one when it comes to comment sections girlie lol, do you and be your happiest self sweetie ♡

  • @kutaferdi
    @kutaferdi 5 лет назад +1

    I dont know what happened to you. I have depression still working on it. But im sure ill not be transgender. But i love my trans friend. Hopefully you find your peace...

  • @YourPainting1
    @YourPainting1 6 лет назад +42

    even before you were on hrt, you could see it in your eyes that you're a woman.

    • @grlbydesign
      @grlbydesign  6 лет назад +6

      Thank you Christine!! I didn't really get it before, but now I do.

    • @bleh7552
      @bleh7552 6 лет назад +3

      The fitness modeling pics blew ur cover the worst tho. The smile and stance lol it's fine I was found out too

    • @grlbydesign
      @grlbydesign  6 лет назад +5

      Ewww, I'm sure she'd just LOVE to be your friend. (Insert sarcastic tone here.)
      Also I think the fact that you just objectified a woman on RUclips, based on her picture alone, makes her absolutely find you appealing, and not at all reprehensible. (Sarcasm is fun huh?) :P
      @christine, I gotchu girl!!

    • @bleh7552
      @bleh7552 6 лет назад +5

      im dying of curiosity, the elephant in the room. what the fuck r u doing on Nats videos if you have a prolem with trans people.......go live ur life dude, go do ur keyboard crusade elsewhere cuz doing it here honestly makes u look like a closeted gay hater

    • @fullup91
      @fullup91 6 лет назад

      @@itsmetheherpes1750 omg you're truly pathetic LMAO!!!!

  • @metromunkee
    @metromunkee 6 лет назад +1

    You can see in your eyes the huge change with the life that's come back, and that this is your true self. So happy to see you moving in the best direction and massively helping others along the way! Your spirit is indomitable!

  • @olgafigueroa2909
    @olgafigueroa2909 5 лет назад

    Did you transition FULLY? Or was the surgery just facial?

  • @energyattraction
    @energyattraction 6 лет назад +3

    Jesus loves you more then you can ever imagine ask him into your life he will change you like he changed me.
    I'm a Born Again Christian saved in 2016 by the grace of God through Faith alone in Jesus Christ.
    Was living the same lifestyle you where but I came to see that I was lost and seeking truth in a world laced with lies. I hope and pray your well and that Jesus guides you home
    ❤️✝️🌱🌾🙏🌾🌱✝️❤️

    • @allie8275
      @allie8275 6 лет назад

      If you’re not trans good for you but real trans people following Jesus or whatever will be just lying to themselves all along. If Jesus even existed I’m sure he would be happy for Natalie :)

  • @nira_moli
    @nira_moli 4 года назад

    if i cant ask, how old you started the HTR process?
    Every day that passes I wonder if it will be possible to be as beautiful as you, I can not make the decision yet, not even gone to the psychologist, I think I torture myself every day thinking that I can not change the lack of hair and my beard frond by a more feminine face, by the way i am 23-24.
    Best regards

  • @Leilafart
    @Leilafart 6 лет назад +10

    I think maybe you should take a trip to Peru and trip on some DMT. Too many selfies girl. Life is too short to be so obsessed with this short life. Our bodies are temporary vehicles. Good luck to you dear.

  • @Triateyal
    @Triateyal 6 лет назад

    Lovely. I hope you continue to find your happiest self.

  • @May-fs4gm
    @May-fs4gm 4 года назад +1

    We are very proud of you😀🏳️‍🌈

  • @Erika-vj5sy
    @Erika-vj5sy 5 лет назад +1

    You are a beautiful woman. It suits you. Glad your doing you.

  • @abner6327
    @abner6327 5 лет назад +2

    He's hot as a man but please consider that his not happy being a man. Just follow your heart for sure it will lead you to your happiness.

  • @jahirateek2300
    @jahirateek2300 5 лет назад

    You are so beautiful Natalie! Inside and out. If there were more people on this earth who had the courage that you do the world would be a better place. Keep living your truth!

  • @peachbun
    @peachbun 6 лет назад +3

    I wish you no ill will, it is your life. I'd say I appreciate your willingness to share, because it does show that there is a mental issue going on and that no one should take transitioning as if it is the perfect solution to their issues.
    That is in no way meant to shame you, because many of us have different mental issues to face and should find support and care in our journey.
    However in this world, there is an agenda to push the idea that you should change your body to be the real you.
    But the real you is who you are in your spirit. This world is full of spiritual issues running rampant because we are living disconnected from God, living by the ways of the flesh.
    In reality, it is something internal that needs to be addressed. You are free to believe in God or not, but I hope one day you can learn more about who Jesus/God is, our Creator, and that our time in this broken world right now is temporary. We face issues due to sin effecting us ( whether we chose to be effected or not - many are effected by past generations and biological/mental issues of various kinds ), but they are not "who" we are. God's word has been fulfilled throughout world history, and the issues in this world are increasing every day as we come closer to the end of this age. I guarantee that the more you can learn about God and his intentions for us, the more strength you can find to not worry about so much, knowing you are saved for eternity if you turn to him instead.
    We all are guilty of breaking God's law, he knows we cannot be perfect. Justice requires that wrongdoing face consequences.... So that is why he came down into his Creation and would die in our place, so that we might believe and be saved. He rose again in 3 days and defeated death. If we repent of our wrong doing and trust in his sacrifice to save us, that is our only hope. We cannot do "good works" to save ourselves. No one can. Spiritual things require spiritual discernment though, so you must have a speck of faith and ask God for guidance. From there, you can build your faith with so much evidence and proof of God's word being true. The same way you have to take time for a stranger to become a friend, you also need to do this with God, so that trust and understanding is built up.
    You were born male, but went to female, then back to male, now to female again. I can understand it is a temporary feeling of control and solution to do "something" and it can give you a temporary feeling of relief like you're addressing the situation. But I think as much as you try to distract yourself on this path, it will fall flat again at some point, because you're not learning more about reality and having a relationship with God. He wants you to be saved for eternity, not in bondage living for temporary things... 150,000 people die every day, many young people too. We each have this time to learn and make a choice about what truly matters. I love you and hope you find a way to set some time aside for God while there is still time to do so.

  • @camilobastidas6176
    @camilobastidas6176 6 лет назад +9

    Natalie, do not yearn or reminisce your pictures as a guy, focus on becoming female and on girly - woman things, that's what your current path needs. Those old guy pictures (although your past) can be dangerous for you (i.e. jeopardizing your second transition) so just WATCH OUT GIRL!

    • @grlbydesign
      @grlbydesign  6 лет назад +5

      Thanks for the warning. I don't put them up to reminisce, I put them up to inspire and help others who are still in the closet. To live visibly and show them it will be alright. I'm all me, I'm on my path, this is just a way for me to give back to others. I hope it doesn't negatively affect my life, but there is not a rule book for this. Plus as I change and grow, I'm sure I'll think back less and less on the life of my past. I'm appreciative to people like you though for the warning and for looking out for me. I promise I'm alright.

    • @camilobastidas6176
      @camilobastidas6176 6 лет назад

      @@grlbydesign I'm glad it helps! Have an excellent day! Hugs and kisses!

    • @حلمجميل-غ5ط
      @حلمجميل-غ5ط 6 лет назад

      Camilo Bastidas
      İ saved a pucture of her before transition .. İ m in love with her before all this . yah!

    • @grlbydesign
      @grlbydesign  6 лет назад +2

      Hahaha too funny!! 😂

  • @ponyboy801
    @ponyboy801 6 лет назад

    Its great to be able to reflect and see the significant changes. I always find it tough looking at old photos because i know what im thinking and feeling in that time and its easier to avoid. Thanks for sharing Nat 😊cant wait to see the next video
    Edit: Great job as Hannah in CTD!! 'SO WAS I BITCH!' awesome!

  • @imanomade1360
    @imanomade1360 5 лет назад

    You're cute, Natalie! Keep it up!!! Sending good vibes 🙌

  • @buntersprout
    @buntersprout 5 лет назад +1

    hope you're doing okay sis 💛💛

  • @justdamienhere1325
    @justdamienhere1325 6 лет назад

    You look so happy now and you’re so beautiful! You keep doing you Natalie!

  • @elsagrace3893
    @elsagrace3893 5 лет назад +2

    You seem obsessed with your looks. What about substance? Who are you besides your looks? Anybody there? You can’t find lasting contentment from your appearance.

  • @spaceeout
    @spaceeout 6 лет назад

    Amazing! You look amazing. So proud of you even though I don’t know you. Thank you for sharing 💛💛

  • @thriftingoutdoors
    @thriftingoutdoors 3 года назад

    Why did you detransition and then retransition?

  • @Luminelle
    @Luminelle 6 лет назад +12

    And in Some years you would like to be a boy again?

  • @avelinomike
    @avelinomike 3 года назад

    Very inspirational. TY

  • @vanessadostoievski
    @vanessadostoievski 6 лет назад

    YOU GO, GIRL

  • @nathancha834
    @nathancha834 6 лет назад

    💖💖💖you're so beautiful and amazing !!! thanks for sharing yr story with us ♡♡♡ much trans solidarity and love to you

  • @zanniewerell2643
    @zanniewerell2643 6 лет назад

    Natalie, I just wanted to say thanks for being such an amazing person. You're down to earth, insightful, and brave to be so open about yourself. I first started watching your videos when I was questioning myself and here I am, about a year later and I just had my first endo appointment to start HRT yesterday. Coming out to my parents was something I never thought I would be able to do. My mother was raised Mormon so our family spend years in the church as well, and I also felt the same crushing guilt and shame over it. It terrified me to think that I could disappoint them and myself for not being the son they always wanted. It took a lot of pushing and shoving, but I was finally able to do it and so lucky to have their support, which is such a blessing and I wouldn't even be able to start if they hadn't supported me (since I am under 18). Your videos have shared knowledge and helped people find themselves, and I don't know where I would be if I didn't have them and the other amazing trans RUclipsrs like Maya and Stef Sanjati. Keep doing what you do, you have no idea how many people besides me that you are helping. ❤️

    • @grlbydesign
      @grlbydesign  6 лет назад

      I wish I could LOVE this more than once!! You're the reason I started posting these Vlogs. I am so happy to hear that you have supportive parents who love you unconditionally. That's INCREDIBLE!! Tell them this RUclipsr appreciates them and wishes more parents had the capacity to love as they obviously do. You're going to be so happy girl. Take your time, allow things to happen when they do, be patient, and find people who celebrate you. I don't mean to go off, but your comment absolutely made all of this worth it!! I can't wait to see your evolution!!

    • @zanniewerell2643
      @zanniewerell2643 6 лет назад

      @@grlbydesign Thank you so much, I'll be sure to keep you updated :)

  • @jacintafaaz6050
    @jacintafaaz6050 6 лет назад +4

    You are so BRAVE :)

  • @JC-jd1us
    @JC-jd1us 5 лет назад

    You look better becuase you look happier

  • @jbone79
    @jbone79 6 лет назад

    Glad you found peace.

  • @bleh7552
    @bleh7552 6 лет назад

    Hey Nat, thanks for posting :) pretty much same story here. I used to bodybuild and model. I started 3 months ago. I just do sports now :) Chicago native. Thank you for posting!!!!! Btw I went from like 205 to 170 already lol

  • @DenneGene
    @DenneGene 6 лет назад

    As an MTF trans, I can't imagine myself "detransitioning", I already feel a little miserable if I haven' taken any hormones for a week, I'm so happy for you

  • @alexandertaylor2502
    @alexandertaylor2502 6 лет назад +1

    Ur beautiful either way!

  • @MrCrowCarrot
    @MrCrowCarrot 5 лет назад

    I'm so sorry for the ignorant hateful comments I see on your videos. You're beautiful and valid, and YOU know what's best for you, nobody else.

  • @Ahhhhht
    @Ahhhhht 6 лет назад

    My beautiful friend, I'm so proud of your journey so far!

  • @Sunsetsbeach
    @Sunsetsbeach 6 лет назад

    Your journey continues........

  • @ReginasRetroReviews
    @ReginasRetroReviews 5 лет назад

    Merry Christmas

  • @NickiFoxxy
    @NickiFoxxy 3 года назад

    Love to support my fellow trans brothas and sistas!
    Check out my amazing transition too!

  • @skyethewafflequeen6936
    @skyethewafflequeen6936 5 лет назад

    Beautiful!

  • @pamdangelo6743
    @pamdangelo6743 6 лет назад

    I love your beautiful smile! Have a blessed day!

  • @AJ_Battle
    @AJ_Battle 6 лет назад

    well done your awesome, thank you for sharing

  • @crystalquiroz3361
    @crystalquiroz3361 6 лет назад

    Good for you!

  • @shae5714
    @shae5714 6 лет назад

    Yessssss!!!!!!!!

  • @purvapai8815
    @purvapai8815 5 лет назад

    Natalie you look beautiful.. May you be happy always.

  • @Tiny86
    @Tiny86 5 лет назад

    Your so strong and beautiful

  • @shanniemckayla8925
    @shanniemckayla8925 6 лет назад

    You’re very beautiful I hope you find your path ❤️

  • @BrennahAdrianna
    @BrennahAdrianna 5 лет назад

    Post new video missy 👻💙👱🏻‍♀️

  • @misssymeeefamily6260
    @misssymeeefamily6260 5 лет назад +1

    Let God define you. He gave you your identity already at birth. You won’t be happy until you surrender your heart to Jesus. Blessings.

  • @gripitl6878
    @gripitl6878 6 лет назад

    Wow, so amazing.

  • @nilanjanghosh8788
    @nilanjanghosh8788 6 лет назад

    U r a beautiful woman Natalie

  • @es8059
    @es8059 5 лет назад +1

    Gender is NOT a game ffs (and not the facial feminization surgery ffs)!!!

  • @justanatm5494
    @justanatm5494 6 лет назад

    Hello, btw you're incredibly beautiful so congratulations on transitioning!
    But I have something important to say.
    Everyone who has said she should've stayed at her biological state...no..just NO. She might've killed herself or self harmed back then but now she's proud of who she is so just leave if you're going to waste your time typing a shitty comment and being rude to this beautiful woman..
    So just chill and
    Show *her* some love.

  • @imiburrell5694
    @imiburrell5694 6 лет назад

    you're so beautiful:)

  • @shaunagracek8178
    @shaunagracek8178 4 года назад

    U can flip to man and woman as many times as u went it’s your life so that means your rules!!!

  • @chloelavender3620
    @chloelavender3620 6 лет назад

    You are beautiful

  • @abd12459
    @abd12459 6 лет назад

    U are so damn lucky to have a beard , expressive eyes , nice lips and I can't ur just perfect .. being a man suits u better

    • @runaalam8792
      @runaalam8792 6 лет назад

      Beautiful both ways.. do you still live in LA?

    • @abd12459
      @abd12459 6 лет назад

      @@runaalam8792 never been to US honey

  • @verengelhardt2442
    @verengelhardt2442 5 лет назад

    Why do you do that to your body? You risk cancer to pursue an idea exist in your head how you should look and feel like?

    • @theviewer6889
      @theviewer6889 5 лет назад +1

      It costs zero dollars and zero cents to stay in your own lane.

  • @laetileroi5935
    @laetileroi5935 5 лет назад

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      @laetileroi5935 5 лет назад

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  • @BELLA-sn2sy
    @BELLA-sn2sy 6 лет назад +4

    Jesus love you. I dont know whats happend when you was a child. But somethings happening. Not enough love....? I dont know....but something goes wrong. Jesus wash all this stuff away. There is no past and no future. There is only one Moment "NOW". I see a Human with so much .... so so much pain inside. God is the only one, he can help you. Not i, not your friends...no one. But he can do it. He makes you feel to be loved.....and perfect. I saw much people with the same feelings like you have. And all those praying to God. And they are really happier.....more than ever in them lives. The feel confterbel with themselfs. And stay stronger for others. That is very cool to see them chanching to happy and lovely people :D. I pray for you that you also feel like they feel now, with God in them hearts.

  • @Luminelle
    @Luminelle 6 лет назад +2

    Who Paid all this???