Gear to Improve Warm Weather Backpacking
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I do summer canoe trips that include portages. During trips like these, there are at least 5 more items I bring you didn't mention.
-First for the canoeing, your going to want a sunhat with a strap. It sometimes get's windy enough that your hat will blow off into the lake if you don't have a strap on it, yet sunny enough that you want a brim all the way around so your head and neck don't get burned. You cannot unfortunately paddle at the same time as hold an umbrella. The other benefit, is if you wear it while wearing a bug net hat, it keeps the netting away from your skin and face which only makes it more comfortable and less likely the bugs will bite you through it.
-Second, also for canoeing you might want to consider a long sleeve sun shirt like the columbia ones. It prevents you from having to layer on sunscreen and at certain times bug spray (flies on the lake can be nasty at times) which means you don't feel as sticky and greasy when you get back to camp if you don't have the chance to wash off before bed. This directly improves your sleep.
-Third, once again related to canoeing, a "buff" or "neck tube" thing. We use these for lots of things, mostly I'll have it around my neck so my neck doesn't burn, but if it's really hot out on the lake, we dip them into the water and get them soaking wet, then put them back on which is equivalent to laying a cold towel on your head or the back of your neck during a really hot humid day. It also helps with bugs if you wear it in the bush while portaging or in buggier dawn and dusk times.
-Fourth, kinda obvious, bring sunglasses. But a good pair of sport style that stay on your head even while sweating or lifting things on and off your back is important. Glare from the water is worse than on land with normal sun.
-Fifth, this relates to the portages more. Consider light weight long hiking pants (I use columbia ones with the zip off legs). This provides multiple benefits. The biggest ones for portaging are you often walk through taller grass or underbrush area's. Protecting your legs from cuts from the dewy leaves which can act like blades or branches and such is useful. Second, bugs can go after your legs, having them covered helps from flies (both in the canoe and on the portage) as well as mosquitos and even potentially tics. And while in the canoe, they keep the sun off your legs and knees.
I know canoe tripping is a bit of a different beast than hiking but many things relate when it comes to the portage sections.
Everything that you mention is also quite useful for someone who has to spend a significant amount of the summer outside with kids. I work as a nanny and some days I need to have a ridiculous amount of gear for both the kids and myself while also keeping my hands free to make sure the kids aren't running off somewhere. I would camp and canoe a lot as a kid, so most of my nannying gear is really just hiking gear.
I was looking for exactly these kind of tips, thanks man! Going to make a 1 week sweden kayaking trip next year and I want to start gathering tips to prepare myself.
I like using a silk sleeping bag liner for my summer bedding. Plenty of warmth for hot summer nights. Gives you a bump in warmth for the winter.
I used a silk liner on my recent backpacking trip in Texas. I worked well.
Love my Cacoon Silk Liner. Keeps my quilt from absorbing my body oil, adds some warmth and gives me a comfortable layer between my body and the inflatable pad. So worth the $.
When you say bedding do you mean as a replacement of a sleeping bag/quilt, or as something to put over your mat for extra comfort?
@@tallky You can use just the liner. But remember, it's all dependent on the insulation of the mat, the insulation of your shelter, what you're wearing, and of course what shelter your surroundings are giving you from the elements. It can still get very cold at night in the height of summer, depending where you are.
@@TheEnglishRedneck45 How well will that work for a night where you're absolutely unconcerned about the cold? Most people don't consider this because most people aren't forced to tent camp in a Florida summer, but that's my situation. Will the silk prevent me from getting sticky and miserable, or is there another solution?
One piece of gear that I found unexpectedly useful was a really good thermos. They are typically used to maintain hot liquids, but a good one will keep your water cold as well. I took a good thermos with me hiking all day at 90 degrees. I put ice in it when I left the house, and by the end of the day it still had ice. While a thermos can add weight, it is a great way to keep water cold if you are worried about overheating in high temperatures.
Working in the AZ heat I found drinking cold water actually is worse than drinking warm to keep your body cool. Your body works harder to convert the energy closer to your body temperature.
Great video. As someone already mentioned, dipping a buff in water and then wearing it around your neck or head does help to cool down just a bit and just feels great on those hot and humid sticky days. Another multi-use for a head net - i use it to put it over my inflatable pillow and over the top of my sleeping pad, then tighten the head net cord a bit. This keeps the pillow in place all night - it was a huge game changer for helping me sleep more comfortable and not have to fumble a pillow around all night. If you don't carry a head net, then an extra shirt or jacket works just as well.
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I knew him when.
All excellent information. Living in the desert Southwest, one thing that gets overlooked even here is clothing color, and how it can impact your body temperature.
I did an experiment about a year ago and posted it on one of our large local hiking groups, as follows:
On a beautiful 71° day, I laid a white hiking shirt and a dark blue hiking shirt in the sun for 15 minutes.
The white hiking shirt surface temperature was 86°, The dark blue shirt surface temperature was 107°.
I expected a difference like those experiments we did as a kid melting ice under different colored pieces of paper, but I didn't expect a 21° difference.
Wear light colors in hot and sunny places!
Nice video! One of the things I do during the warmer months is simply bring an extra pair of socks (or two of you are on a multi-day trip). Being able to change out sweaty socks mid-day, makes my feet so much more happy and really reduces the likelihood of blisters.
Love GGG!!! That's great they want to help your channel out with sponsorship. Only thing I have to add to the conversation is that Walmart has fantastic bug head nets for way cheaper than 30 bucks. JS.
Love the channel
Happy Trails 👣
I just bought one of those Sea to Summit head nets treated with Insect Shield for $12 at REI. They are considerably under $30 😉
So as I was recording this I couldn’t remember the price but knew it was under $30. Turns out it’s under $15 but I didn’t want to give bad info so I went with what was safe.
These are all great recommendations for Mountain West backpacking. Another great topic would be focusing on gear for southern dessert conditions (highs in the 90’s, lows in the 70’s). Keeping cool in these conditions is challenging, but doable. Cotton clothing that retains moisture next to skin and is more comfortable at night when no sleep covering is necessary. Tents with open mesh for better air flow. Campsite selection where the temp is lower.
Thanks for including the temperature in celcius, weight in the metric system would also be great!
Did I forget to include weight conversions? I try to catch it every time. My apologies if I missed some.
Awww man, so glad to hear Garage Grown Gear is sponsoring you, those guys are the best and their service and offerings are soooo good!!
I went camping in the mountains of Southern California. 5,000ft elevation it got down to 45 degrees. I didn't go dressed for the weather but so glad I had my 20 degree bag and 3.5R value pad. I slept comfortable but the rest in my group were cold all night.
Superior Wilderness Designs has a nice pack back ventilation design that allows ventilation with their non-frameless packs (and definitely UL). It isn't a full suspension like the Arc Haul, but it also won't break/snap/cause problems like the Zpacks bag has done for some hikers. I'd also throw in the Sierra Designs Flex Capacitor bags which are under 2lbs and have a similar style to SWD. Both would be good options for getting at least some ventilation. Thanks for the extra tips! Definitely considering an umbrella.
What SWD pack ?
As someone in Arizona this is our off-season time. you guys have fun 😂
I’m not sure if I’ve heard you talk about umbrellas yet! I definitely love mine. Actually have used it more as a “shelter” from hail and then sun on breaks. Also, helps to cover your pack if you have to set up your tent in the rain. The umbrella clips you can buy (to not have to carry it hiking) still need a lot of work in design so I think those are more of a gimmick than useful at this point in time.
I'm always excited about your episodes! Cheers for all the good work, it helps a bunch. Much love from a Swedish newbie, sort of 😄
Never would have thought of an umbrella, I like it
I live in Colorado Springs with the most bipolar weather. I always bring gear for colder weather because I don’t trust warm Summer days
Same, we had a 60 degree drop in 24 hours last year. I feel like the rules change above 7,000 ft. And if you're heading above 10,000 ft, you should be dressed for snow or hail year round.
for late spring , summer and early fall I use the military poncho liner along with my sleeping bag cover if I feel that the temps are going to be a little cooler in the spring and early fall.
great ideas! i'm from Israel and most hikes are at 30-20 C degrees, some in desert. All water systems are meaningless and you usually need to carry 3-4L water for the day. i'm a redhead. i wear a hat, sunglasses, a buff, long sleeved UV protective jacket and a wolfskin T shirt (lighter colors-less heat). also hiking sandals or at least lightweight shoes. merino socks with option to replace if sweaty. i have a 5c degree quilt or silk liner and a Nemo tensor (for my aging back), one person mosquito tent (tsabaris) which is great for summer but coverable.
been camping in 100 degrees down in southern Colorado. wet towel around the neck is the best gear.
GGG is awesome... I love that Farpoint layer (Thanks to your review)! I treat all my clothing with Permethrin and it works wonders up here in the PNW to keep the skeeters at bay. I sweat like a congressman in an ethics hearing, so I wrap a buff around my wrist and use that to wipe the sweat from my face, neck etc. One thing about the Klymit pads during the winter... I use a "Space blanket" cut to the size of the pad, with the reflective side up under the pad, works great.
Great post my friend. This really applies to me as I will be winding up much nearer to the equator. 🌞
A absolutely appreciate it that you convert all the Numbers into metric values, that helps a lot
Least I can do. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the awesome tips for Summer backpacking, Steve! I agree with you about using a trekking umbrella instead of waterproof clothing, which will just heat you up. I also bought the Z Packs Lotus UL Umbrella, which is a great idea with umbrella clamps. I added the GG Hands Free Umbrella Clamps for backpacking over long open stretches when the sun beats down on you. I can't wait to get out on trail with it. Like you, I also got the Sea to Summit bug net for a lifesaver from the dreaded Pacific Northwet mosquitoes!
Love GGG - so glad you two have paired up!
I love your videos! Thanks for being so plain spoken and simply telling us what you think.
My summer quilt/bag is a 70° comfort rated bag that I picked up.
With the umbrella, the couple of times I've used one (regular compact travel umbrella) they have become a haven for mosquitos & deerflies. Spraying the underside of the umbrella with bug repellant helps, but doesn't solve the issue.
In addition to the hoodie, consider a pair of athletic compression pants/tights. Lightweight and provide a little bit extra warmth in the evening at the campside. (I have fleece tights for the colder weather)
Another great video, thx! I would add to the list of positives for an umbrella…wind/rain block in the door of a tent, shady spot for a nap, quick cover over a pack while setting up a tent in the rain, mental lift being able to hike in rain without a hat or rain hood, wind break for a stove, silk blazing stick, and more?
Thank you for the unit conversion
My additions would be.
1: Not only can you use a lessor r-value pad but it can be shorter and maybe mummy shaped. You can save weight there. In winter having limbs hanging off the pad is no good but in summer it's ok.
2: Having a little microfiber towel is usually a good idea but in summer it is essential for sponge bathing in rivers or lakes.
3: If you are using a double wall tent and the weather looks good and predictably dry consider leaving the fly at home. You'll loose weight/pack space and have more ventilation on hot nights.
4: In general you can bring less clothes. Not only because it's warm and you don't need much insulation. Buy your sweaty day clothes can be washed at camp and are likely to dry by am, and if not damp clothes may not be a deal breaker in hot weather anyways.
I love GGG and I'm super happy to see creators that I really like working with them rather than accepting sponsorships from an unmentionable litigation-happy gear retailer
Sun hoodie!
The Osprey Rook is a great backpack ventilation-wise and it only weighs at 1,6kg. I mean its not an ultralight but the airspeed ventilation system is amazing for a hybrid backpack.
I have this pack and it works wonders. Did a hike in Colorado with it a few weeks ago and I would’ve died of heat exhaustion without that huge gap between my back and the pack
GGG is awesome. Great advice on pack! Thanks as always.
Yey! I'm so happy you've teamed up with Garage Grown Gear. They're the best!
TREMENDOUSLY informative video Steve, yet again! Thanks.
I love that Sea To Summit headnet. I wore it recently in my 5 night stay in the bush. But today when I was coming out along a trail the mosquitoes ripped it right off my cap and I lost it. Of course I don't blame Sea To Summit. My fault. Will I replace it. Maybe.
Zpacks has always seemed to me like the Patagonia of tents and packs. I'm an underdog kinda guy but I wonder if my illogical ideals are keeping me from great equipment. Also the Farpointe is going to be my next piece of clothing. My OV Dragonwool is heavy and I'm no longer an OV fan after bad customer service.
I am surprised you had issues with OV. I get what your saying but take this advice for what its worth. Saying zpacks is like the patagonia......well thats a hell of a compliment for zpacks. I say this as I sit here in patagonia shorts I bought in about 2014. There gear is really top quality and it's obvious (in most cases) with most of there gear. My nano puff will never die. I need a new one because I'm half the man I used to be (almost).
Zpacks has struggled like a lot of companies with the reality of retail. But they are the underdog...hiring local people in Florida.and moving from garages to nicer facilities. Thats something to support. Most importantly - they made the best tent design out there. period. It's not even close and we know its true because so many copy the exact design. I've had it for 3 seasons or so and I'd buy it again and again. Never a hint of regret. Especially since my excuse to my wife was "sooner or later they're going to realize they're the best, and the cheapest (compared to HMG and Big A) and right that ship....which they did and now they're 700 instead of 600. Do it any way. You don't have to love the company - I don't care for the finicky packs or quilts but the tents are gold. Duplex all the way.
Cheers
Definitely have to pair the head net with a good hat so the brim keeps the net off the face.
Love GGG. Great products, outstanding customer service, and great pricing!
Great advice and pointers! Would've loved an even longer video haha
Location is a important difference in warm or hot weather. Here in Central Florida you will not find me backpacking or camping from late May to early October. I have the Arc Blast and camp in hammocks since they are the coolest ( temperature ) items for camping. But those 4 ,1/2 months with a heat index of 104 to 112 nothing helps but staying home in the air conditioning. Taking walks ( 1/2 an hour to 1 hour ) during those days the silver reflective umbrellas let me have portable shade. The coolest walks are during a good old fashion Summer shower.
Summer is meant for my Aegismax sleeping bag, 14 oz and $80.
I bought the Farpointe Alpha Hoodie on your recommendation, but immediately after trying it on I felt the thing was too delicate for me so I returned it and went with a Mountain Hardware AirMesh Hoodie from REI (on sale for $60) which seems much more durable and it has thumb loops. Alpha outperforms Octa slightly, but I'm not too concerned about it. Plus, REI return policy!
I’m sorry to hear you didn’t like your alpha hoodie. I love mine. It does get snagged easily but comfort, weight, warmth, breathability, looks. I’m in love
I ONLY use these I have the arc 50 & 55 ❤ them. All the rest of my many packs are safely store in Rubbermaid containers in case someone else ever wants to use them.
to avoid mosquito bites I also use a Graghoppers shirt marked "NOSI-LIFE". I had very good experiences with it in Oregon and got almost no mosquito bites through this shirt.
Trekking poles tents. Durston x-mid 2p
The mosquitoes have been really bad in Northern Finland this year. I have to wear a full mosquito jacket on top as they bite through most summer clothing.
But what about camping in this heat wave? 70f+ nights?
What do y'all use for your sleep systems in hot and humid climates, like Texas? I'd like to go camping at a local state park, but, the night/early morning heat and humidity is still pretty oppressive.
If we had a mid-40 degree night here in the Summer, it would mean the world is about to freeze over. 76 when I woke up this morning in Chattanooga, TN.
Winner of this video: the umbrella idea. 👍
What gsm is your Farpointe hoodie? I noticed they sell options in 60 and 90gsm.
So my use case is admittedly very specific, but I don't know where else to find this kind of information. I live in Florida and I have no choice but to tent camp in the middle of summer, sometimes several times a year. Sleeping bags are obviously a no-go. Anything I've tried to lay on gets drenched in sweat and makes me feel sticky and miserable as I try to fall asleep. The best option I have tried is a cotton sheet to lay on. Does anyone have any better suggestions? Something lightweight and moisture wicking, perhaps? And just to reiterate, there is no fear of me getting cold at night. R value is literally the least important thing to me when I search for things to make me more comfortable lol.
I’m from South Carolina and I have the same problem. I’m trying to use a hammock as a sleeping bag with no mat.
One thing I recently started carrying for mosquitos (along with repellant) is a Thermacell MR300. It's a small, lightweight device that burns a repellant. It works really well if you use some spray repellant too. It doesn't seem to work for flies or bees though which I found out on my last trip when the first camp site I went to was infested with these HUGE bees, I mean like the size of dragon flies it was crazy I've never seen them like that before lol (this was on the West slope of the North Cascades, they weren't "murder hornets" but if anybody knows what they were I'd be interested)
Are you sure they weren't murder hornets? That's exactly the one place in the United States where they've been identified so far.
This man is the real deal
Thank you so much for adding grams in the corner! So many channels just don't and it feel like the biggest f u to me as a European based hiker.
Happy to accommodate best I can
i've seen people not being able to even slightly sleep in 5c using 5c bag. Because it's rated with perfect sleeping pad, balaclava, socks and passive underwear. overkill of 1c bag to 5c expected temp, add some wind and it's basically no sleep.
The Bonfus Iterus 38L in DCF is much lighter than that Zpacks and my back never sweats when wearing it either.
So are haversacks worth it?
I would like to see a video on the topic.
My umbrella is essential gear all year round. Making my own shade or dry-surround is a must or hiking doesn’t happen.
What umbrella are you running?
Klymit pads are super comfortable but even the "insulated" ones aren't very warm because of the welded valleys. For me, the limit is around 40F/5C...
I recently realized I am done wearing synthetic fabric tshirts because even the larger flowy ones stick to my body after sweating. I recently picked up a synthetic long sleve hiking shirt two sizes too big and it was exactly what I wanted for hot sunny days. It is Flowy, it keeps the sun off of me, it keeps air in between me and my shirt allowing for my body to properly sweat, and it does not make me feel clammy at camp.
Disclaimer: I wanted this as part of a bikepacking/biking kit.
Do you find that the UberLite sleeping pad to be a better purchase than the Uninsulated Nemo Tensor pad (2.5 r-value)? Besides weight any other advantages?
Weight is the main advantage of the Uber-lite. I think the tensor is more comfortable for sure.
Duckworth wool is a company I recently discovered very little camping/backpacking related reviews for there clothing...would love to see you thoughts
Very interesting. "Warm" and "cold" are relative, as right now on mid-july we deal with 18-20°C at night (64 to 68 F) and your summer sleeping kit would be way overkill here
That is true. If I’m hiking I’m trying to escape the heat as much as possible so that means high elevation mountains. There are certainly trails that are easily 18-20 at night but that’s too hot for my liking. I’ll hike those trails in the spring and fall
In the PNW, the mountains are down in the 45s-70s (F) even if the city is experiencing 65-90s (F)
I appreciate that you show the weight in grams as well, but units has to be written correctly, otherwise they will mean something else.
Gram is not capital G but "g".
I recently took my Osprey Levety 60 (similar design) pack on the Cleveland Way in 30'C weather in the Uk. Worked flawlessly. Cheaper than your Z-Packs option and a bit heavier (about 850g) but it's by far the most comfortable pack I've ever worn.
I'm surprised the Levity doesn't get more attention tbh.
For sure. I have the Lumina despite being a male. Found it on sale for an amazing price. Despite having a hip belt with a different angle and whatnot, it is still extremely comfortable. I've hiked for hours and not once felt it rub in a weird way. It holds the weight well and then stays out of your way. Other packs I've had, have been very painful to use such as the now discontinued Fjällräven Friluft 55 and Bergans Helium 55. Both seemed like such awesome packs, but the hip-belts are painful to wear for any extended amount of time. Osprey Lumina... I don't feel a thing. It's good stuff. Sadly, it's getting discontinued as well. It will supposedly be replaced by a 55 liter Osprey Exos version.
As far as there not "being many options" in this category. Uh.... Osprey has been doing the ventilated back thing for many many years now, and their packs are widely available and cost less than Z-packs. Importing their stuff simply isn't an option for someone like myself who lives in the Nordics. Osprey has been very good to me and every single pack I own by Osprey, has the "trampoline" back ventilation.
Yes, Exos is another good choice for ventilation and lightweight backpacking
@@FuttFel but the osprey bags are generally much heavier. Except the exos and levity as others have mentioned . The lighter Levity 60 is 270 dollars 32 oz. The arc haul ultra 60 is 399 dollars 19 oz. Each one appeals to a slightly different buyer...
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Great but most or all not available in the EU :-(
In summer i just take a bottle of turkey in a squishy bottle, lighter than sleeping bag, mat and tent. And i sleep fine
I have had 2 Klymit pads fail with minimal use. Wouldn't touch them again
I've never been on an overnight hike. I love camping, but not wanting to spend much money " at all " in case the overnight or multi night hike is not my thing. So HOW CHEAP CAN YOU GET for 1st time weekend hikers & wannabes.
An umbrella is dangerous for hiking. Safety on and through rocky terrain, scree, tree roots, fallen limbs and steep descents are too dangerous for holding an umbrella when two hands are available for reducing damage.
Head net is a great one, but you can get one under 5 bucks at Walmart.
PS... I love you 💞
$30 for a bug net I think I got five for a dollar off Temu
Id like to request that you stop talking about that alpha hoodie...please allow stock to catch up to your subscribers lol. What a problem to have. Congrats on a good sponsorship...there aren't many.
It’s hard to stop when I love it so much!! 🤣
Personally I've found that hiring a Mexican to fan you is the best solution.
8th Piece of gear to improve warm weather backpacking:
Beer
(It is delicious, refreshing, and 95% water... so it can be an important part of your hydration strategy)
what kind of accent does this guy have?
If you bring a umbrella for your expedition... You need to stay home in your city apartment.