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The producers put all their energy into the opening and decided that’s enough effort for this series
Except the "effort" in the opening kinda sucks. You know why the opening battle in LOTR works, and this one doesn't? Because that one looks like a battle. A REAL battle. You have clear battle lines, and tactics being displayed, and this one is just a bunch of CGI slop thrown together that's supposed to "wow" the audience, without being thought through at all. There's no rhyme, or reason, to this opening battle sequence.
@@natedaniels3655 Shut up goof. Ya'll just bitch and moan about everything. Pathetic smh
@@natedaniels3655 I agree, they did the battle scene like a street fight where there was 0 organisation, just elves and orcs individually 1on1ing each other
@@draglout Exactly! Even the most simple strategy would've completely decimated the opposition in that fight. "Hey guys, stay in a line and keep your shields up." *manages to win against overwhelming odds somehow*.
@@natedaniels3655 there is always a point in war where the lines will break, and the war become chaos, people killing each other individually. Do you actually think _real war_ is organized?
These scene was incredible. I actually thought the show was going to be good for a second
Scenes don't make sense even in these few clips.
All in for "cool" effect, no respect for story. GoT Season 8 fail all over again. ^^
Yeah, the scene with all the fallen soldiers seems to be inspired by the battle of unnumbered tears illustration.
@@elektrotehnik94 Still crying about that years after its over. Rent free, GOT wins in that sense kiddo
It was incredible until the fake Galadriel took over
I don't know, finrod looked really goofy to me. Maybe that's just me.
Me in this scene: 😲
Me for the next 7 episodes: 😐
That’s a fact
Me for the next 7 episodes:
1 🤢
2 🤮
3
4
5
6
7
Me all ep ❤😊😊😊
@@asellandrofacchio7263 Lol I couldn't even finish the first
@@fritzy3057 "why do stones sink and boats float?"
Imagine being an elven warrior, training centuries only to be slain in the first 5 minutes of combat
That's some Warhammer 40k energy right there. Crazy powerful demi-gods with multiple centuries of active combat experience, instantly killed by a space fart.
Yea the elves were way more ba in Jackson trilogy. The elven army in that opening incinerated the orcs in that one
To be fair, it was the nirnaeth arnoediad
Not even making a line , just running around hacking... >
@@darthjedi5420 Well, lines break in battle.
The orcs are not cgi only which is something I can appreciate
The show has negative and positive aspects. The cgi, practical effects and music are great
@@stupidmilkshake4887 I might be thinking of watching it, how’s the story overall?
@@lyranth if you are a casual Tolkien fan, you may like it. The overall story contradicts the books in many ways. For that reason I’m not the biggest fan of the series. It has its moments tho.
@@stupidmilkshake4887 lol casuals like good action and cool spells and shit. This show is a total bore fest for most casuals
@@lyranth yes. I read the books. Loved the pj films.
If you aren’t a hard purist you’ll enjoy it. If you are the type to bemoan ANY changes to lore, you’ll have trouble.
That said, PJ films made very big changes and overall they are loved. I hope RoP does the same, the visual fidelity is INSANE for a tv show. We are lucky we get an adaption with this budgey
I just love how they show the Noldor just going in the ships, without telling what they did to the real owners and keepers of the ships 👀
The Teleri are being stupid..they should have joined the Noldor.. its all their home which was ruined..
The Teleri were not "stupid". They had everything they needed in Valinor. The ships were important to them and of great value. The Noldor cruelly slew the teleri just because Feanor believed Melkor's lies. None of this ever justified the clan murder of Alqualonde. The Noldor were blinded, desperate and ignorant because they did not accept the will of the teleri. In addition, the Noldor simply burnt the ships of the teleri. A people could not commit greater celibacy and cruelty.
@@VinterixXFeänor was right in chasing Morgoth but he should have used his Charisma so that the Teleri joined him
@@aranha6285 Surely he should have done this. His charisma, his power of speech and his rhetoric would have caused less suffering than the swords of his soldiers. However, he would not have convinced the Teleri with words either, his speech described in the Silmarillion met with no response, the Teleri were sad and dismayed and they did not know Melkor (as he considered them too weak). They therefore continued to trust the Valar. That he wanted to pursue Melkor was his right, but not at the expense of his own kin.
@@gerrysabronHe was so mad that his rocks were stolen and his father slain that he slew a bunch more of his kin. Just evil begetting evil
I love the Orcs that are just hugging Finrod instead of attacking. Pushing for the shot.
That happened a lot in real blattles, almost like wrestling
@@giovannifontanetto9604 Lol, nonsense. You think a person with their sword against their enemies neck would just push them forward slowly? 🤔
@@Jayrage most armies in history fought in close formations, pressing into each other and just stabbing. Some armies would push together so tightly that the dead would be held upright and soldiers would be unable to raise or swing their weapons. It’s silly in a melee like this, but it did happen, and especially if your enemy is well armored, just trying to grapple them and knock them over would be a better strategy than hacking at them uselessly.
@@evankohne5053 Yeah, except for when you sword is against the throat of your enemy... as mentioned in my other comment...
@@Jayrage except for in the pull away shot, it’s the elf’s own sword across his chest, and he was neck armor, so a slash like that wouldn’t be as effective. As I stated in my previous comment, these grapples often led to enemies being unable to swing or move their weapons, and given how that Orc is being crushed by friend a foe alike, I doubt he had any ability to move his blade and actually cut with any force while keeping his blade or not dislocating a limb.
Amazon: we've spent 1 billion of dollars for this show
Audience: wow, and how much money did you spend for the opening sequence?
Amazon: 999 millions
Nothing is ever going to beat the first Lord of The Rings opening scene, in almost any movie probably not just Tolkien's stuff. I remember I saw it in theater when I was 5 and couldn't take my eyes off the screen
Jackson much more used show, don't tell than this. So, much more involvement and epicness. Here, I feel that a "skip" button is missing. This prologue is totally average.
@@klug5916 All of you sound like old men complaining about the good ole days.
@@Buggabones Well, in this specific case, this TV show absolutely wanted to play with nostalgia and be a canonical prologue of the LotR trilogy. These films are amazing and globally acclaimed. Of course the comparison will be present. If the new TV series was amazing, smart, respectful, excatly like the beginning of GoT, everyone will praise it. The showrunners did it themselves. Not grumpy old timers ^^
@@Buggabones feels like in the old days we had epicness instead of this cheap made scripts
@@Buggabones
the music that ms radio promotes these days sucks even more.
0:48
I love how Galadriel just decided that she was going to swim that distance-
Its fairly easy for elves. legolas eaz some mammoth type, many more extraordinary feats such as glorfindel during the Fall of gondolin were notable. even turin a mere human defeated the father of dragons: Glaurung
@Aziri e AYOO NOW IM A WOMAANNNN AND I CANT SWIM THAT 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm dead ur reply was hilarious 💀💀
@Aziri e HAHA truth :c
@@centurymemes1208 Not sure on super strength but they are definitely very good on stamina
Also side note I hope I live long enough to see Glaurung adapted, that guy is like Smaug times ten in how much personality was written for him, imagine what he'd be like if someone voiced and animated him like the Hobbit movies did, I imagine something like Grigori from Dragon's Dogma.
@@centurymemes1208 turin wasn't some mere human my guy, and glorfindels feat of killing a balrog is one of the highest achievements by any elf, u can't just casually compared things like that
0:58 That map of Middle-Earth is what was left after the War of Wrath, and doesn't show Beleriand, the rest of the map going northwest, where there's the sea, and what should be shown. A small detail that tells us the creators of this "amazing" show didn't really care, or didn't really know much.
True, but they didn’t have the rights for silmarillion though. Only for parts of it mentioned in lotr
@@frggdeckkkydexhhgg Beleriand is mentioned in the Lord of the Rings when Elrond talks about the Elder Days.
Awesome special effects. That scene with the eagle being killed by the dragon was super cool. I have no idea why Hollywood feels compelled to make every protagonist the underdog though. The elves weren't "resisting" Morgoth until the very end. Feanor roused the Noldor into a conquering expedition of vengeance and new kingdoms, out of the shadow of the gods. The elves were conquering badasses, not Disney cookie cutter #rebels™
Yeah more of that #WeResist 🙄
The simarelion made it out to be worse as morgoths war of wrath was so terrible half of middle earh was completely destroyed this is the tame pg version of the first age .
The problem is that those specifics are only in the Silmarillion means they don't have the rights.
They could have extended the eagle fight longer was like 2 seconds best part by far
That was a fallen beast not a winged dragon tho. I believe this is a battle (I honestly forgot the name) before the war of wrath which is where winged dragons were summoned.
The part that starts at 0:43 is the only part of the Rings of Power that is 10/10 for me,
the music alone carried so much that Bear McCreary and his entire Orchestra had to go to the hospital.
and ironically it start with the showing of the wrong maps ^^
@@quintus6081 they don't have the rights to a map of Beleriand. Amazon can't use stuff from the Silmarillion
@@quintus6081 ????
@@Fegyo98 ?
Yeah, the visuals and the soundtrack heavy carry this show. This is the only scene from the show I acc kinda like, I don’t even think I made it past episode 1 lol
Probably the best sequence of the show
Agreed
sadly
*the only good sequence
There’s actually a lot more. It was pretty good
@@Zehahahaanah
Imagine if Peter Jackson is the one that directed the Old Age
With this budget
1:01 Ever wondered why the eagles just didn't fly into Mordor? Well...
Maybe the only good thing the show has depicted
According to "The Silmarilions", The war against Dark Lord Melkor (Morgoth) did not held in Mordor but Beleriand, which has collapsed into the sea with Angband (Melkor's Kingdom) and many others Noldor Kingdom (except Lindon) after the War of Wraith.
@@basilisk1197 im pretty sure he knows it wasn't in mordor, he was saying fell beasts were killing eagles hence why they couldn't fly to mordor
@@cameronallison1199 that is a good point but that also doesn’t make sense cause great eagles can kill dragons the only reason why the great eagles didnt as manwe did not tell them to interfere they woudnt unless it was for the sake of a friend such as gandalf also the eagles coudnt just go to mordor was climate, millions of arrows, and the nazgul themselves as the nazgul where very powerful capable of killing scores of elves only incredibly powerful beings such as galadriel, elendil, gil galad, elrond, aragorn, glorfindel could face the nazgul, and win and by the point of pelenor fields the witch king was as powerful as gandalf the white so a great eagle would be nothing for him, without any help the eagles would be massacred by mordors forces as the fellbeasts normally would be no match for them but the nazgul riders with the sorceries balanced them out the witch king could cut down multiple eagles with a single spell and the hordes or orcs and evil men bellow would fill the eagles with arrows of various kinds including poison and with saurons eye essentially being a active radar a horde of eagles approaching would have been spotted immediately it would be painfully obvious what the plan was, its pretty much the same as to why glorfindel didnt join the fellowship it would be to obvious.
@@fayhlennokctra7344 I hope you know that was what I meant in my other comment I just put it in short😂, you literally are agreeing with me
I'm starting to believe that morgoth was trying to help the elves cause how the hell do these elves sleep with that giant tree lamp.
There is 2 trees one for day one for night
Morgoth did nothing wrong
Wait, do Elves even need sleep?
if you look again you’ll notice there are two trees. the one that’s shining like the sun in that scene is Laurelin, the golden. the tree behind it is Telperion, the silver. they both shone, but not at the same time. basically when laurelin shone it was day and when telperion shone it was night
ironically, it was the sun (made after the trees were destroyed) that was originally never going to set until that couple of valar whose names i always forget were like “dude. that thing’s always in the sky. no one can get any sleep. please fix it” and then there was day and night again. tho i don’t remember if that’s canon or earlier in the development
0:59 Anyone else notice they had to use the map from the Lord of the Rings from the 2nd age onwards, and not the map of Beleriand since they don't have the rights to use or mention it?
Kinda makes me appreciate the series more, just for being able to work with the nagging pain that is the Tolkien Estate.
Have you seen Tolkiens map of the first age? It looks like a 6yo child drew it. Its fking awful, they would never use such an ugly map. They also wouldnt show a map of just east of the misty mtns because the elf story takes place on the west side so that makes zero sense to use that map as well.
@@Buggabones that's incorrect, the elves woke up in the East in Cuivienen (Eastern side of sea of Helcar) first and the several factions of elves that existed migrated to Beleriand afterwards and travelled through Middle Earth to get there
@@shizachan8421 Still not an excuse to make garbage content. They could've just had the Elves be the main characters later on in the series and had the main character be Sauron and give tidbits of information regarding Halbrand's past throughout the season. They could've just had Halbrand living in Harad amassing power and influence over the Haradrim and Easterlings by making precious gifts and weapons for them to hold sway and do subtle manipulations. But nah we got this jumbled garbage lmao. There's a saying, "A character is only as smart as the people writing them." so in other words the writers are pretty stupid.
@@Vlakell4476 Tbh, the show had severe pacing issues, but wasn't that bad. Clearly far above most of Game of Thrones after season 5. I would say the biggest L was making the main character Galadriel. I think keeping her mostly the same but making her her daughter, Celebrían, who is more like a blank slate who could be expanded upon. It also would have left open the potential with a romantic subplot with Elrond, considering she is his wife in canon, so from a story perspective they could have introduced some interesting Sauron-Celebrian-Elrond love triangle. TV Audiences love triangles after all.
1:00 this is exactly why you don't take the Eagles to Mordor
The eagles battered the fell beasts in return of the king though
Those were dragons... fucking dragons! So eagles are practically mcnuggets in that battle.
@@Kotkamusic looked like fellbeasts to me
This is not Mordor
@@donaldjohnson7893 fellbeasts weren't around then
When Galadriel chose Sauron over the guy she was engaged to, and they rode the Hogwarts express back to the future. That was the best scene. Powerful, powerful cinema.
I was happy when her fiancé Salahaddin took it calmly and returned his army to Damaskus without war.
Live long and prosper.
Even suggesting Sauron would take a fucking She-Elf as a wife, or any creature is fucking ludicrous.
Fucking showrunners man.
Truly one of the shows of all time
She was thinking that her husband was dead. That's why she authorised herself to maybe love Halbrand
1:01 finally, a scene where the eagles don't always solve the problem.
If anything the dragon was too small, they were giantic armored fire-breathing monsters, cunning and cruel and able to cast many types of magic and curses.
@@grillodofus bro it was a fell beast.
I know there were dragons and Balrog in the battle of Morgoth.
That's one of many things I hated about this show.
@@_Black_Lemonade To my knowledge Fell Beasts were breeded by Sauron and were unheard of before the third age, and we know that the cinematic version of Tolkien´s dragons have only 2 legs and two wings so they should look alike, but i concede that it may be one. After all Amazon was not keen in accuracy or veracity with their "Middle Eart" map on the middle of the first age.
@@grillodofus sir Tolkien made wyverns nor dragons dragons have six limbs Chinese dragons have four because they didn’t have wings
Bro went down so quick too😂😂😂 ain’t stand a chance
I always wonder why most directors always show armies intermixed with each other when fighting. Like, how did they get into each others’ back lines without being killed?
At least in Jackson’s LotR, only the first few lines were intermixed, while the backlines are all allies.
what is more they show them in proper formation. Its only "mixed" because the orcs charge into their formation.
Cause it looks cool.
@@ragemonkey117 It really doesn't.
Bro, you see cavalry charge through walls of pikes and bodies, whereas they could never do that in real life. Don’t put lotr on a delusional pedestal.
maybe its cheaper, or maybe the people in charge dont know how to realistically portray battle formations. theyre generally not military experts.
Regardless of the show being what it is, I still admit that the first shot of Sauron and his legions was pretty awesome. And at the end, when he finally revealed himself, I might actually continue with the next season if Sauron is more involved as the Dark Lord. He is basically the character we all seemed to rooting for now.
Here here!
@@maggiecruz2117 "You know somethings wrong when sauron is the hero"
@@muhammedaasil969 Yes. Like in LORT nobody roots for Sauron or the fucking Orcs. We root for the good guys. They are flawed, but sympathetic, very human even the not human ones. Charismatic, or brooding, or cheerful, cunning or dumb. The Fellowship and the recurring characters were amazing. Tolkien setted the foundations and Peter Jackson & Co. took that to the big screen with great care.
In the Amazon adaptations you encounter numerous fans rooting for the evil guys, a thing only seen in fucking Star Wars with the Sith (which is cool, its that type of series) but never in any Tolkien works. And this never happened in LOTR trilogy. FFS is so bad that some annoying incels and casuals didn't even get or forego the Tolkien ethos of fighting against evil and caring for the good in the world.
It's sad and its certainly not the blame of Tolkien's world, or viewers, but the fucking producers and showrunners of this dumbster fire of a show.
Sad sad adaptation...
Yeah, the second season and the series onward will focus on Sauron as the main character. The creators described him as the Walter White of the series, he's evil but complexly evil
@Gamer's Theater Mate that not f*cking sauron in my eyes, is damm ornstein from dark souls same armour same spear, and he even clear the sky so he could make his orcs suffer and die under sub light what a good guy is sauron couch couch, ornstein here he's literally the hero instead of the villain gg amazon.
This show was great .. the first season was slow moving yet the action was to be filled by following seasons ❤❤❤❤
Not a fan of their changing so much, but the part where sauron is introduced is pure bad ass
02:40
It's's the only thing i can give them credit for.
nah
What changing?
Yeah I hated all the lore changes but I visibly laughed out loud when Sauron reveals himself, second best part of the show
Sauron was supposed to be the most beautiful, captivating, fair of all maiar that form he was taking only happens after he dies in numenor and loses his human body and thus recreating himself into a more terrifying existence
Can't believe I didn't notice the Balrogs in the background of the battle until now.
The Two trees, the shadow Morgoth, the darkness of the Two Trees destruction, the sons of Feanor, the fleet of elves sailing east (though not under Feanors banner), an Eagle of Manwe dying, the chaos of the battle, Angband and it’s volcano’s erupting in the background, the desolation of the land after the battle, eagles and dragons fighting in the skies, fire and explosions from projectiles, the lack of cohesion and sense of “every warrior for themselves” within the two clashing armies, Sauron and the orcs, etc. This was the one time this show felt like Tolkien.
Let alone a decent summary of what the First Age was like. Minus a few things…
Such mayor events like all of Beren and Luthien, the Kinslaying, fall of Gondolin, the whole Silmaril situation, and sinking of Beleriand.
As well as some important characters like Fingolfin, Thingol, the Valar, Feanor, Ungoliant, Ancalagon, Gothmog and the Balrogs, and Eol the Dark elf or at least his son.
These were not the sons of Feanor. Finrod is not one of them. This scene probably tried to duplicate something like the oath
They don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion, so that’s the most likely explanation.
My friend they don't have the rights to the Silmarillion so how can they even show events that happened in there?
@@rafaeltsad9326 It’s a nod to the Oath of Feanor. They probably couldn’t show the Sons of Feanor because of rights issues.
Have you read Tolkien? (I assume so) Tolkien feels nothing like what you described. 90% of the time Tolkien feels like a detailed traveljournal. Elven singing songs for 10 pages, that feels like Tolkien.
THAT sauron scene is EPIC.
Damn you are right cool as hell.
If only they shown his orcs in front of him in that scene too
I would have loved to see Ancalagon the Black in this fight. Honestly so much of and generally more of the 1st age and the fight with Morgoth and the elves, the dragons and Balrogs would have been SO cool to see in future shows.
There are balrogs in this scene if you watch more closely but everything no due them not having the rights to The Silmarillion.
1:05 balrog spotted
@@HAVOC_PUBG Good eye!
@@jackwei22 At some point, they will most likely be able to purchase the rights. It may be easier now that Christopher Tolkien is dead (as bad as that sounds). From what I hear, his children seem to be a bit more open minded about the Peter Jackson films and the show itself.
The only problem I had with this is that it wasn't longer 🤷♀️
That's what she said.
Man I had high expectations after this scene
those short-hair elves really piss me off, damn doesn't look like a high elves to me, more like a human with pointy ear...
I was trying to see if I was the only person wondering where the long hair was. They're sorta known for it even in the first age lmao.
That 1st age battle scene is on the money
Why has this cool intensity of the first 10 minutes completely left the show
well, because here the events of _centuries_ are shown concentrated in a few minutes...
The first ten minutes is from the first age. They didn’t have to right to that content
When we get the glimpes of the Second Age in the movie, we we all amazed how epic it was
Then ROP dropped this glimpses of the First Age and we still amazed by it
Tolkein's World is amazing.
The initial eras before the first age and the first age itself was so epic. Though they barely showed it in this clip but they have a awesome glimpse
The flowering of Arda (creation of trees, wildlife, oceans by the gods (Valar) while Melkor tries to mess up their work (Melkor creates ice, volcanos, storms)
Age of the lamps (before the sun and moon)
Melkor fighting the Valar (other gods)for millennia from his vast underground fortress of Utunmo artic / north pole then finally being defeated by the youngest god Tulkas and being dragged to Valinor and made to say he is sorry in front of his (Melkor) brother Manwe.
Melkor being freed and then breaks the lamps and escapes to middle earth and takes up in fortress Angnand in the far north below the ruins of Angband
The elves are created.thousands of years before the first age. The elves awaken under the stars in far eastern middle earth. They migrate west towards Valinor. Noldor, Sindar, etc... Are formed. Melkor corrupts the some of the elves and makes Orcs.
Lesser Ainur have joined Melkor since before creation of Arda (Earth) Balrogs, fell beasts, Sauron etc...)
Age of the trees comes afterwards. The stories of Feanor, Finwe I can't remember the others
The age of the trees (another several thousand year's)
Many elves went to Valinor and live there. Many stayed in middle earth.
Some elves were badass and killed Melkors foulest beasts.
The creation of the Simarils and Melkor steals the Simarils and destroys the trees of (light of sun and moon) (the destruction of the trees is shown in this clip)
The elves (Noldor?) Feanor I believe goes on a rampage to get the Simarils back from Melkor (he has lost some of his power - spent it corrupting middle earth and the elves call him Morgoth)
The elves fight for centuries against Morgoth.
First age begins when Humans are created and are awakened in the far east of Middle Earth and the sun and the moon are created (no more lamps or trees of light)
Morgoth corrupts some humans. Humans that are faithful to the Valar and fight alongside the Elves are later rewarded with the kingdom of Numenor(second age which is what this series is all about)
The Elves fight the forces of Morgoth for centuries (against Orcs, Balrogs, fell beasts, later Dragons)
Until it becomes so desperate that the elves plead to the Valar. At the end of the first age a great force of the gods (Valar) eagles and other Ainur (divine beings) attack Morgoth and destroy most of the dragons, most of the Balrogs, the orcs. The middle earth is so ravaged, the elvish kingdoms are sunk below the Sea.
Morgoth os captured, chained and cast out of the door of night outside of Arda as permanent banishment. Morgoth probably gets admonished by his own creator the Eru Illuvator (the one God)
The second age starts after the destruction of Morgoth and his forces and the devastation of Middle Earth that changes it's shape.
Sauron escapes and hides in the middle earth since the fall of Morgoth. The Valar invite Sauron to come to Valinor and say hes sorry and repent. But Sauron has other intentions....
When the war of the jewels drops we will probably get flashbacks to Utumno or Tulkas suplexing Melkor
This was such an epic scene to watch, it made me realize that a Silmarillion adaptaion could actually be made someday!! It was so cool to see Valinor and the two trees, as well as one of the battles in the War of the Jewels/War of Wrath? actually on screen. They did a good job with this, just wish it was longer (or that the whole show was about the Silmarillion, but I get they didn't get the rights to that... hope someone does someday if this is a glimpse of what it could be!).
Edit: too bad the rest of the show wasn't like this, this was the best part!
Are you a robot? This was just terrible. Look at Peter Jacksons battle scenes, and then look at this. No heart was on this, greed was it's only inspiration.
@@johnnymcblaze The battle was lackluster, but I meant the whole scene in general. It was cool to see events from the Silmarillan play out, even if they were brief. Have you read the Silmarillan?
@@HiHi-lt1cb I agree with you. The battle, what little we did see, looked epic. What made it lackluster is the length. It's pretty short, even for a recap. The battle of the Last Alliance was about as long as this video itself at least.
The show definitely has problems, but trying to work in The Silmarillion when they legally couldn't, in my opinion, isn't one of them.
The elves ventured to beleriand, and there they fought morgoth over the span of a couple centuries, beleriand in the end sunk into tho sea, with only the sundered remains of the blue mountains that formed its eastern border remaining, and there the elves settled the elven domain of lindon and the grey havens under kierdan the shipwright, its apparent Amazon didnt get permision to go lore accurate and this is the result … I personaly dont care about actors not being white or any such nonsense, bit these details are ripping at my soul …
Im so itching to see Ungoliant and Glaurung one of these days, but those books are really long and play like a history I don't know how they can fit that into film its sure to be a long series eitherway
The war between Morgoth and the elven army was more insane. Morgoth created his godly servants, the dragons and the Balrog. Especially the dragons were considered to be more deadly than Smaug. Yes, multiple dragons bigger than Smaug covering the sky, throwing fire, Orcs whose numbers were incomparably bigger, and the Balrog the ultimate evil spirit commanding them. SO sad that we didn't get to see any of those.
When i think of the 1st age i think of the movie Immortals. Gods of Valor just fighting insanely
Aaah yes! You know what I love, when your opening to a scene from the "First age" and you show the WRONG fucking map on screen! Good job writers!
Middle Earth is the continent containing Beleriand and what was left of it in the Third Age (of which we are more familiar). What's wrong with the map?
My comment would be showing Valinor, an area of Aman the continent, instead of the entire Aman. But they may not have the rights to that.
So far there are only two continents in Arda. Is there something missing? Maybe convert the sundering sea name to Belegaer? So it's more traditional? Although it's the same place.
@@mentaldetritus13 I made this comment before watching the whole show to get the full context of their "direction" of the show
Beleriand was indeed part of middle earth. in the opening scene when they talk about the Noldor traveling to Middle earth to "chase down Morgoth". All of this would take place in the First age, so the map should show Beleriand still present
However, whether it's due to book rights, or other decisions, the whole of Beleriand seems to have just been cut from their story. Choosing to instead have Morgoth's battle seemingly take place in the Third Age Middle earth instead.
So wrong map in terms of the book, but in context of their show it would be right
However, interestingly enough, if memory serves the show mentions something in the lines of "The battle against Morgoth shattered continents". If that is the case did Beleriand exist in their Universe, or did it not, who knows
Beleriand fell into the ocean after the Valar destroyed it in the First Age. There is no Beleriad anymore, so the Middle-Earth map is the correct choice.
Aman would still be visible but not able to be visited until Ar-Pharazon the Golden steps upon it and gets crushed into an undead army stuck in the deep earth.
AND The world is still flat until Numenor falls at the end of the Second Age due to its corruption by Sauron.
@@VidsnStuff Yes? The whole opening sequence is talking about the first age and Fëanor journey to middle-earth. Which takes place in the First Age? So Beleriand should still be present, because it's destruction happens during the War of Wrath, which happens at the end of the First age
So, inconclusion, the map should show Beleriand
1:05
Just to the right of the eagle you can see the outline of a Balrog going at it with some elves.
I believe the shot at 1:39 is a reference to the sinking of Beleriand
Beleriand didn’t sink, Numenor did.
@@RyanGr33n Both Beleriand and Numenor sank
@@johnstephen4847He hasn’t read the Silmarillion. He didn’t know that the lands west of Lindon were drowned after the War of Wrath
@@RyanGr33nDoes not have a knowledge, but correcting someone.Arrogant dumbass.
This series had so much potential
just proves a billion dollar company doesn't mean much.
I've always pictured the trees would look like the size of a normal tree. I didn't realize they were actually gigantic. This depiction is amazing, I am excited to see more!
They were probably even bigger wince they ligthened the whole world... and then Ungolinat came and sucked them dry!! Oh wait!! No Ungoliant anywhere here!! Just missing the biggest eldritch abomination of all of Tolkien´s creation.
@@grillodofus the trees only lit Valinor. Middle earth was only lit by starlight until the coming of the moon and then the coming of the sun
Even Tol Eressea was only lit on it's western side from the light coming through the Calqcirya
@@jmad318 I was of the idea that the Trees where erected after the rise of the First Sons of Illuvatar
@@grillodofus Yavanna planted the trees long before the firstborn awoke .
Heh, too bad we won't "see more". The Tolkien Estate barely let them even mention Valinor / The Two Trees and the producers completely skipped Beleriand. The next and last mention of Valinor will be when Sauron inadvertently destroys Numenor. And that's it. It's actually a good thing Amazon can't touch any more of the source material. Lol.
Fun fact: morgoth didn’t destroy anything. He had Ungoliant suck the trees dry. Huge missed opportunity.
He stabbed the trees
Dumbass
“Why didn’t they just fly the eagles to Mordor?” 1:01 that’s another reason why they didn’t.
Those eagles are being killed by dragons... Only smaug survived into the third age..
@@PAllen74 those are Fell beasts, the exact same creatures ridden by the Nazgûl not dragons.
@@0IlTSauronx Yes but a fell beast can't kill an Eagle. Eagles are Maia just like Gandalf, they are heralds of the gods, fell beasts are just Saurons warped creations. There is no contest.
You can clearly see the Eagle being killed by dragon fire anyway. I'd the eagles wanted to fly to mordor and beat the fell beasts during the third age they easily could. The reason they didn't take the ring is because the eagles are a powerful and noble race. They would simply be corrupted by the ring..
@@PAllen74 true
People here seem to think that the elves' journey portrayed in the video is about the invasion of Feanor and his children and pointing out a lot of errors. Not that there can't be mistakes, but to me this moment clearly seems to be the invasion that the Valars themselves decided to send, the War of Wrath that definitively defeated Morgoth. In fact, it was only during this invasion that Morgoth used winged dragons (which appear in the video)
Lol what, its undoubtedly talking about the flight of the noldor, for one thats finrod in the battle, galadriels brother, who died before the war of wrath lmao. The 2 trees were destroyed ages before the war or wrath it wouldnt make any sense showing them, neither would the line 'we left our home' galadriel didnt leave valinor to fight in the war of wrath neither did most of the noldor they had already left. Those looked more like fell beasts than dragons, but either way you think that some minor technicality like that would stop them from including dragons in earlier battles, they butchered the lore in every other way.
This was actually a great opening. As close as ever we have gotten to an adaptation of The Silmarillion. The show itself had lots of issues, but it weren’t the visuals or actors. I hope they can improve, there’s actually a good show buried here.
@@slayking2378 Not even the Amazon Corporate shit, just get better showrunners than J. D. Payne and Patrick (?) McKay. They have barely a noticeable writing credit. I actually thought this show was enjoyable in a glamorously generic fantasy show kind of way. But just rewatching the Peter Jackson films - even The Hobbit - and the care and immense attention to detail and the commitment that went into them…. The Rings of Power just never had a chance.
exactly
I can not imagine why they messed the simple thing. Finrod never sailed to Beleriand but walked through helcaraxe with Fingon, he is shown as simple soldier when he has King of Nargothrond, one of the most secure elven realms and showing him taking part in the last war against morgoth is damn stupid as Finrod Felagund was dead at this point for he helped steal Silmaril and died at the hands of Sauron at Minas Tirith
Who cares about all those?? Here you have a black elf and single mother human 'love story' be happy with it..
That giant pile of helmets always makes me laugh like how did they pile them up like that? 😆
it's little overkill touches like that which only the keen will notice as the ruination of this show into something more mastrubatory for the Star Wars crowd
Metaphoric bro.
Lol
Carefully
@@OktayKus1993 not really
1:03 mmm, fried chicken 🍗
Everything tastes like chicken, except the chicken.
The soundtrack is just *chef's kiss*. Sounds amazing if you have a great set of speakers.
The best looking (fight) scene of the whole show. and it was so short
annoys me that battle lasted a total of 5 seconds, i feel we couldve truly known the antagonists better if a whole episode was dedicated to this prelude.
That 5 second battle scene cost more than your life salary my guy. They cant make it that long, far too much work. Would take along time too.
@@Buggabones my brother in Christ what you’ve said pretty much explains how shit this production is at budget allocation 😂. They’ve spent 60 million per episode and they can’t properly fund a battle longer than 5 seconds?? Jackson managed to produce two trilogies filled with A LOT of action with a smaller budget
@@ripsnorter185 With the technology they are using, no they cant. Jacksons battles are not CGI. They are relatively cheap by using practical effects and paying basically slave wage to the ones who built the sets compared to how much it cost for good CGI experts.
@@Buggabones mmmm no dude 😂. You do realise cgi was invented because it was a cheaper option compared to practical. What do you think is more expensive: blowing up an actual building or simulating blowing up a building? That’s why a lot of movies now overload their product with CG. Especially in this case since it’s cheaper to hire an artist to create a battle with a cg army instead of hiring hundreds and hundreds of extras, slapping costumes on them and shooting a battle sequence. So yeah Amazon had every option to do so and ofc they still fumbled it like they did with the rest of this shit show 😂
Feelings for the show as a whole aside.... this intro was pretty badass
This show had so much potential.
It was great imo.
It was awesome tho
It was trash unfortunately
I remember being so excited when I first heard about it...what a letdown
I loved it, fuck the haters.
We all had such high hopes with this show, especially when you have an opening like this
No we didnt. Some did. All the bs that came out about the show before release told us all we needed to know. that it would be a fucking abomination
that opening was literally:
dude named morgoth is evil
elves went to war
war was bad and long
morgoth is dead now... anyways here's sauron
All those elves were fighting 10 Orcs each. 😭 Respect
First Age Elves were built different.
@@zico739second age* Beleriand doesn't exist on that map in the beginning which was a region attached to Middle Earth, with Lindon as it's far eastern region and only surviving part.
I’d be a friendly Orc lol but still have evil look
The elf actor looks like a 21st century businessman during mid-life crisis. Guess some directors are too heartless and blind to pick the kinds of actors like Orlado Bloom or Lee Pace.
This is the first time I've seen a great eagle being killed before. I thought those guys are invincible
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All I could think of when the eagle crashed in flames. Lmao!
Welcome to the second age, where there was lots of evil on par with and stronger than the eagles.
@@hogganknowsbest That battle took place in the First Age. Dragons were pretty much on par with the Eagles, though. Fortunately for the Eagles and all of Middle Earth, only one Dragon was known to have survived into the Third Age and that was Smaug.
Other dragons existed into the third age. In the north near the grey mountains there’s a region called the withered heath where drakes (lesser dragons) lived. For the great dragons, only two were known in the third age. Smaug the golden who was the last of the great dragons and scartha the worm who lived several hundred years before the hobbit. There have been five know great dragon’s in the history of arda. But there are lesser dragons that possibly continued to live into the fourth age after the fall of Sauron.
The only thing that bothers me about the elf armor is that It doesn’t feel complete without any Gloves or Gauntlets, everything else is fine to me.
Only if the show was this good the entire time
0:27 probably the only live action version of Morgoth we will ever see.
Is it possible I am the only one who noticed that at 1:00 they show Middle Earth WITHOUT Beleriand?? The map at 1:00 shows Middle earth as it is in 3rd age and this was happening in the 1st. Shows just how much thought they put into this series and what kind of ''fans'' like it.
People who praise this show are the ones who know nothing about Tolkien’s work
0:27 That shot of morgoth behind the tree thats the first time morgoth has appeared on movie/series
Thats sauron, not morgoth. its quite evident from the shape of his crown above
@Belugamale8738 it is morgoth not sauron at 0:20 galdriel said "when the great foe morgoth destroyed the very light of our home" she's talking about the golden tree, in lore there are two trees of valinor one tree brings light & daytime and the other night time and darkness , the tree of light was extinguished by morgoth and it brought darkness over arda (LOTR's earth) you can see a big shadow of morgoth a form he has taken destorying the tree behind its already been confirmed to be him it happened in the books too
@welsh-cymru1588 My bad, i can notice it now. I didn't watched the whole scene.There are other videos on RUclips unintentionally Describing that shadow being Sauron's
i also got a little confused due to how Melkor's Armor & Crown model (in the said scene) is designed Similarly to Sauron's own second age armor & since morgoth is mostly depicted as being way more bulky & Muscled than sauron in the fandom 😅. But it was never confirmed What he really looked like or only appeared on screen in Metaphorical ways
I really suggest this guys channel called Broken Sword if you haven't seen him already he's a popular lotr channel that has great videos about the lore of middle just type in Broken Sword Melkor (Morgoth) and he has a video about his lore
@@Belugamale8738 gee, where do you think sauron took his crown inspiration from? It should be known by now, since morgoth is the first dark lord.
Dem Teleri ships looking might clean and not covered in blood lol
Ungoliant when the little guy not only takes your shiny lunch, but also takes credit for your shiny breakfast.
Lol they almost had me with this intro. I thought the show was gonna be good for a sec.
i thought it was pretty epic
Ehh .... it was so so, the visuals were cool but it was way too off from the lore, I thought some of the editing and the dialogue could have been better too.
I just wish we knew wtf he was randomly yelling mid battle lmao
@TheT26E4SuperPershing yeah what a weak little bitch…and he wanted to kill souran 😂😂😂😂
I'm enjoying it so far
Yeah an epic disaster
When Morgoth destroyed the trees "we resisted"? How can you resist something after the fact
You can see Balrogs in the background if you watch closely!!
this looks so amazing, that battle sequence is enormous and feels so powerful.. please make this series better each episode and darker pleaasseeee
They can’t. They already abandoned the depth with this opening. They totally punted it. Zero mention of the Silmarils, the oath of faenor or Galadriel’s brother’s oath to Beren that resulted in his death and the burgeoning relationship between men and elves. This has all the visual beauty with absolutely none of the depth.
@@teddyjackson1902 they mentioned the silmarils, celebrimbor did..but yeah, a few world's..i Guess because they do not have the rights of the Silmarillion
@@alessandror6001 “petty gem craft” was the phrase I believe.
@@teddyjackson1902 Don't put the blame on the show runners, you gotta put it on the leaders who didn't get all the righst.
darker? This isn't game of thrones
Awesome to see the trees. This was pretty awesome
Jeff Bozos... thank you for bringing us this master piece wow its so amazzzzzzing
if only this show kept this level of quality
Valaron Kalanel, FIRUVANTË !!! By the light of the Valar, THEY WILL DIE!!!
Is that what he said
@@aizen_world Yes
I can literally smell the plastic of the armors and the starbuck coffee next to the green screen on this scene
no you can’t lol.
It's cool seeing the Son's of Feanor in the opening scene. I wish they gave Maedhros his red hair.
Ouch. It is like suffering through the Star Wars desecration all over again.
This prologue is objectively great, even if the rest of the show is uneven and messy so far.
The dialogue isn’t the best tho is it? Literally trying to be like the fellowship prologue. But getting it wrong according to the lore too.
Lol na it’s ok. A great prologue is the Jackson trilogy. The battles going on are way better and the narrator is way more talented. Not saying this is bad just ok In comparison
@@slayking2378 I think it's going to get better from episode 4 forward, it looks like things are starting to get into shape. I really liked the ending of episode 4, sorry if I upset anybody
@@nimislaknumis4615 the leaks say otherwise
@@jak3brap10 That's unfortunate 😔
1:01 The War of Wrath was FAR more destructive and brutal in the book. But this is what happens when you adapt something when you weren’t given the rights to the material.
Yeah it sunk an entire continent, just Ancalagon going down wrecked an area close to the size of the Himalayas and the amount of dead orcs was likely in the tens of millions, if not more.
Gotta say, that fel beast tearing out that eagle’s throat was pretty surprising.
I thought for a second that was director krennick rocking up to anakin and padmes wedding
I would have liked more if they made Ungoliant destroy the tree like in the book.
You can see spider webs also during that scene so while they give credit to Morgoth, I also felt the presence of Ungoliant.
I had to look at this part again, as there are some speculating that The Stranger is Sauron. But, if the Stranger came to Middle Earth by meteor, it likely isn't Sauron, as Sauron is already in Middle Earth at this point. why would he come again? I wonder what maiar he could be? I was even contemplating what would be Saruman, but I sincerely hope not!
I really hope he's a composite of the Blue Wizards and not Gandalf, although the latter seems the most likely.
I was thinking Radagast or Gandalf, because the Istari were "sent" to Middle Earth to aid in the fight against Sauron, soo...
@@HiHi-lt1cb yes after sauron showd himself and had the ring
We thought our light would never dim... After five minutes it dimmed for the entire season.
For some reason, I have had the image stuck in my mind of Sauron watching the scene when the dragon eviscerates one of the eagles thinking: “Man, that eagle got smoked.” and laughing like someone watching a WWE match. Nearby, Manwë glares at him from behind and contemplates snapping him out of existence.
I want a first age movie or show...first age is by far the best out of the 4
Imagine a Series starting like this just to have 7 episodes of memes after
The erasure of Beleriand, of the duel between Sauron and Finrod, and of the censure of the Valar against Feanor's initiative starting the war is a crime
Galadriel: "Then we learned many words for death"....
Orcs: "Nampat...Nampat"
This small teaser is all we'll probably ever get of the first age. The battles were so fantastical and large scale that it would be hard to put to cinema as it's so different from the wars of the second and third age.
Amazon can invest $1 billion into a show but can’t pay its workers a livable wage lol.
Amazon has a minimum 15$ an hour? Wtf u talking about? Minimum wage is still $7.25. They are legally paying twice as much.
Best intro ever they did a very good job can’t wait for season 2
When Galadriel shouts they went from Valinor to Middle Earth while actually already living in Middle Earth for an age.
0:18
For a moment I thought is this Elden Ring for a moment 🤣🤣
The trees appeared in Tolkien several decades ago, as well as art inspired in his work.
This battle scene is where all the creative juices of the showrunners was spent. Then it all dried up.
Ah yes, Tolkien's famous exploding eagles and hugging fights
The only problem I'm having with the show so far is the Hobbits because I'm trying to figure out how they fit in the shows story line
I think their purpose is to teach the Stranger humanity and humility, something other, similar beings lack.
I guess, it's just to help establish the realm as Middle-Earth. For the sake of familiarity.
Damn I hated to see that Eagle go down :(
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