Now let's see the two of them try to land on an aircraft carrier - the zoomie would go straight into the water (even if he had arresting gear)! Totally different styles of flying - like comparing apples & oranges.
@@Commander9013 Not even talking about the airframe; I'm referring specifically to pilot training. Don't get me wrong, the USAF pilots are extremely good, but they're not trained to the same level as USN/USMC pilots who have to maintain carrier quals. Any competent pilot can land on a concrete runway; only a few can execute an arrested recovery on a ship at night, in sea-state IV or higher.
@@haninditabudhi6574 hardly. Even if it does, it's not like the collective complaints from the vast army of mechs would change anything. In combat situations the Jet NEEDS to come down fast so they can make way for other Jet that need to be "caught". So the navy and marine corps embed this practice into their pilots for that reason.
The Air Force is used to having plenty of Stable Runway. Navy is accustom to, I better get it down to catch that arresting hook, before I run out of runway and into the sea. Although there are a couple more safety features on deck, besides full throttle touch and go, again!
Navy planes are made to withstand ridiculously rough landings because this is how they land their plane on a aircraft carrier, they don't have room to slowly come to a stop so they slam their plane down. I know it's a joke but yea
@@JanitorMortis People say the joke is that you do not land on an aircraft carrier, you crash onto it. The real funny part is that it is not actually a joke.
@Twisted-Rave its very weird approach.. you have to set up on the right and intercept where you THINK the landing area will be when you get there. not where it is at the current moment. The turn to final is actually about a half mile out or less. Most people i see in sim land diagonal because they don't calculate the angle or try from straight behind and not off set
@Twisted-Rave YEAH! The postage stamp don't sit still. Not only is it still moving away from you, it's also bobbing, weaving, rolling, yawing, bucking like a bronk too. Like trying to land a drone on a pissed off bull's ass during a Rodeo .
@@MrSimplified their planes are made to land on aircraft carriers with very short runway. Therefore they practically slam them down. There's a reason they both use different aircraft.Quite sure you don't know what you're talking about
OMG!!! I'm laughing with you, not at you - your comment is 100% spot on!!! The VA hates me as I call them out on their BS daily fighting for my disabled Army Veteran husband. People think I'm nuts when I try to share the horror stories.
More like: AF: don't want to piss off the Crew Chief Navy Crew Chief: sir, what took you so long? You babied her all the way to the deck. It's nearly beer-30 and we want to cut outta here.
Navy pilot should have come in from the side, landed, get out of his plane and say "you Air Force guys have nice wide runways, but they're a little on the short side..."
to be fair, Carrier Based Variants of fighter jets are designed to handle such a short runway, and most importantly have *very* sturdy landing gear, if you put down an F-16 like the F-18, the landing gear would most likely buckle
DiD yOu KnoW🤓 that modified carrier aircraft brake the living shit out of their back landing gears there for dragging it a little bit with the already attached tail hook so they replace the wheels every few dozen flights…
@@sweatybotfn9982 the tail hook gets swapped out every 10 or so landings as well. Used to work for a company that coated the hooks in thermal coatings. The coating both makes the hook last longer and protects the cable from getting worn out.
The reason why navy fighter pilot touch down hard, is because the planes their using ( F-18 ), is made to land on aircraft carriers. And in order to get caught by the arresting cables you have to touchdown quickly, because you don’t have a ton of room, because as said, it’s an aircraft carrier. Therefore you can see that navy pilots touchdown hard because that’s what they’ve been trained for. Hope that made sense
@@angelic_disappointment7889 idk if 50% of them are exactly navy but can confirm a good chunk cause I fly Ryanair and when I get a hard landing I yell "Go Navy!" 🤣🤣, then as I proceed to leave the plane, I'll tell the pilots "a good landing is a landing you can walk away from!" they always chuckle and grin
Literally flied ryan air once, the landing was harder than that second landing. The boeing 737 bounced like 5meters into air from first impact and it felt like being in a car crash. Probably some crazy old russian navy pilot with a slogan "landing = controlled crash"
Air Force: "I'm sure the runway is right where I left it. Totally no doubt about it." Navy: "Half the fun is figuring out where that carrier wandered off to..."
@@danielncs3750 I know you know it's a joke, but your comment made me think of ww2 when the pilots didnt have radar, and had to keep track of where the carrier was, and guess where it is, after a sortee
On the off chance you are wondering why they keep the nose up as long asp possible in the AF, it's because they are using the plane as an air-brake which helps with both slowing down, not slamming into the ground, and helps keep the brakes from overheating. The Navy's landing gear is reinforced, but on a standard runway they will generally still land in a similar fashion, unless they are just super used to carrier landings. You could also say the Air Force likes em' smooth, and the Navy likes 'em rough though too.
@@blitz19872 Which is funny because the idea on a carrier is to not reduce power at all in the landing. Its got nothing to do with landing length and the fact that one is a game of catch the other is a controlled stall.
@@rascototalwar8618 I don't see a 140 knot landing speed with full power. What happens is they go to full throttle on touchdown in case they missed the cable they have the speed and power to 'bolter' which is to go around again.
while some of the replies are partially correct and others aren't, the real truth between why the F18 Hornet has such a reinforced landing gear is because "sea makes boat go up and down" lol , , , , take a second, it will come to you.
@@tophatfoxpro they actually power their engines to max, that way if they miss the arrester cable they can take back off and hopefully not go swimming.
Air Force - I’ll take it easy on the old girl and let the maintenance crew actually have a weekend off. Navy - Fuck it. Mike’s working Thanksgiving, Christmas and fuckin’ New Year
I was at KLAS watching landings from the Sunset parking lot. Normally a planes wheels touch down, right in front of the lot. This day a storm front was coming in, and ATC said they had a Wind Sheer Warning. Well, on final was a JANET flight, and I thought for sure all flights on approach would go around. NOT THIS GUY! He landed on the numbers!!! By the time he rode past us at the parking lot, he was doing 35mph. You could tell he was a former Navy pilot after a landing like that.
Branches driving Air Force: I'm gonna approach the speed bump at a slow rate of speed to ensure a comfortable ride NAVY: let's see how much air I can get
@@Rob-hv5zq pfffffffft....hardly. I worked weapons on A10 Warthogs. We werent behind anyone. Ask how many Army or Marines EVER turned away an A10.....🤣 Anywho....back to Navy pilots landing....yes, it was hilarious.
@@lynchcreekmuzzy5759 except the Air Force has repeatedly tried to get rid of the A-10s, claiming they're useless. Only the Marines and Army keep intervening in Congress, which is why they're still around.
For the curious people. The first jet was an F-16, landing only on runways of airports. It'd got a sensitive landing gear so the landing has to be gentle and the nose had to be kept up during the roll after touchdown to slowdown using air dynamics. The second plane is an F/A-18, commonly found on Aircraft Carriers. This plane has an extremely sturdy landing gear because it's designed to land hard on an aircraft carrier. The reason why the land hard is to catch the stopping wire in time. When this jet's landing on a runway, it simply uses wheel brakes to stop, so the pilot can either butter the bread or break his back.
That being said, according to some Navy guys I fly F/A 18s with on DCS, standard protocol (at least when they were flying) is to always do a carrier landing at airports for continued training purposes, unless there are very adverse conditions & you are bingo fuel and a few other edge cases.
@@CMDR_Hadion Changing habits can be dangerous at such jobs, especially when it involves million dollar damage and probable life losses. I reckon that's why they stick to their regular carrier landing protocols.
@@H982FKL-TG the landings is usually hard and while the gear has a lot of springiness, it can still be felt in the cockpit. So to put it simply, it's just a term for a hard landing
USAF lands with a nice clear runway Navy lands and asks ‘why was there only two other FAs on the runway? We had plenty of room for the whole squadron!’
Air Force instructor, "imagine you're this feather, slowly, gently, floating back down to Mother Earth." NAVY instructor, "imagine you're this bowling ball..."
Navy: must land on a 50’x500’ moving boat in the middle of the ocean with no fences on the sides or front. Air Force: must hit North America. Aces!!!😁👍🏼
Navy fighters are over built for the hard landings required by air craft carriers. If you could see a top down view of an naval air station vs air force base you would see the airforce rubber marks all over the run way while all the navy’s would be on the exact same precise line. Naval pilots > air force pilots.
@@JeremiahPTTN it doesn't particularly mean they're better pilots, it just means their aircraft are different. AF jets use lighter landing gear and brakes and have less reinforcement to save on weight and internal space, but navy jets prioritize carrier landings over almost everything else.
I once saw a video of a hornet landing on an aircraft carrier so hard I could not believe whoever invented the suspension on that thing should win a nobel prize.
Not to mention the F-18 was designed for a carrier, so the braking performance is dogshit and it doesn’t have the luxury of aero brake like you saw the F-16 do.
@@d_kortman but the f-18 does have an air brake, it's located behind the cockpit. Heck it even have those thicc ass landing flaps to slow the plane down.
@@hairymanwich478 yes, both the F-18 and F-16 do in-fact have speed brakes. However, I was mentioning aero braking. This is a maneuver in which during landing, the pilot keeps the stick back and and nose up, holding the aircraft in the highest possible drag scenario on the ground which shaves off a tremendous amount of energy that would’ve otherwise been bled by using the brakes, causing significant wear. The F-16 can do this because of its delta wing design and because it weighs 17,000 pounds less than a hornet (dry weight comparison). The delta wing is able to provide a significantly higher surface area for the air to hit as the angle of attack increases compared to trapezoidal wings. This means more drag can be generated the more the wing is angled perpendicular to the relative wind. Due to the high angle of attack, the lift vector eventually joins the drag forces, offsetting vertical lift and creating maximum possible drag. The viper lands at about 150 knots or less and has enough drag pushing the wing back and holding the nose up until around 100-95 knots where it starts to lose lift/drag due to the inverse square law of aerodynamic drag. After the nose drops, the pilot then uses the brakes (or in rare circumstances drag chutes) to bleed off the rest of the energy. This gives the F-16 a massive operational and maintenance advantage as it both conserves energy without wasting as much due to heat from brakes, and allows a longer lifespan of the braking system. Since friction is a similar force to drag, friction also increases exponentially relative to speed. Since the pilot is using aerobraking to bleed off around the first 40-50 knots of energy, this reduces the overall work the brakes have to do by a very large amount.
Air Force: "Time for the touchdown."
Navy: "Time for the SMACKDOWN."
Yes but you only got 900ft of runway and you need to catch that arresting wire
Now let's see the two of them try to land on an aircraft carrier - the zoomie would go straight into the water (even if he had arresting gear)! Totally different styles of flying - like comparing apples & oranges.
@@MisterMac4321 The F sixteen's landing gear could not deal with that amount of stress and wight
@@Commander9013 Not even talking about the airframe; I'm referring specifically to pilot training. Don't get me wrong, the USAF pilots are extremely good, but they're not trained to the same level as USN/USMC pilots who have to maintain carrier quals. Any competent pilot can land on a concrete runway; only a few can execute an arrested recovery on a ship at night, in sea-state IV or higher.
@@MisterMac4321 I get it now thanks
Air Force: "Aaaaaand there it is, another happy landing"
Navy: "Any landing that you can walk away from is a good one"
too true. I took inspiration in a cessna.
Navy is still gay though
@@thegermanfool8953 OK sailor man
@@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916 edgy teenager with no life trying to act tough behind a screen but is really a weak loser with no friends in real life*
@@thegermanfool8953 How many people buried themselves in your wife's throat before she took your house?
You gotta love Navy Guys. Every landing is a carrier landing.
Hahaha, yup caught the wire on that one. Just what i was thinking.
Gotta be consistent
Very Ryan air
They actually have to slam it down, at least in the Hornet, or the engines won’t return to ground idle and extend their landing.
@@blown_off_socks Wrong
Air force: I hope the landing gear won't break
Navy: I hope the runway won't break
Just hope the F-18 isn't made of Nokia.
Im dying 😂
😂😂
Underrated comment lol
Bro be preachin
Air Force: “just kiss the ground”
Navy: “beat the ground like it insulted your mother”
😂
Hahahahahaha
Yea the MX guys must love navy pilots 3/4 of the time somethings broken from slamming that sh*t
But wouldnt it damage the landing gear and the suspension of the F18?
@@haninditabudhi6574 hardly. Even if it does, it's not like the collective complaints from the vast army of mechs would change anything. In combat situations the Jet NEEDS to come down fast so they can make way for other Jet that need to be "caught". So the navy and marine corps embed this practice into their pilots for that reason.
"Landing on a carrier is a controlled crash" - former navy pilot
Best comment on here
Totally true!
It really is you have to set it down fast.
So, no way for a Navy pilot to land softer when he/she’s on land?
And just imagine...the ground wasn't moving up like the sea.. .
Air force: "I paid for the whole runway I use the whole runway"
Navy: "I paid for the whole landing gear I'm gonna use the whole landing gear"
Best one yet.
Nice
awesome 😎
You know you're sad as fuck If you copy popular comments almost word for word to get fake internet points
Ryanair pilot: Imma do both 😎
Air Force: Permission to land?
Navy: Hit the deck, bitches!
I regret that I can only thumb-up this once.
😂😂😂
Ryanair recruiter: "what was your previous job"
"US navy pilot"
Ryanair recruiter: "hired"
“don’t know how to fly a dash-8 or a 737? you think that our pilots know that either? welcome aboard!”
@@MarkSmith-vv5zi lmao true
hello guys this is your captain speaking so today *we are doing 7 nose dives and 35 barrel rolls.*
Why would ryanair be hiring someone good at driving large ships in and out of particular ports?
@@petermckenna8462 a pilot flies planes dumbass
Airforce: "Let me just land gently."
Navy: "FINALLY SOMETHING TO LAND ON!!!"
Lmao I laughed too hard at this
This comment wins.
I was just thinking that he landed like he hasnt seen land in a while 🤣
@@andrewurban8412 😁
The Air Force is used to having plenty of Stable Runway. Navy is accustom to, I better get it down to catch that arresting hook, before I run out of runway and into the sea. Although there are a couple more safety features on deck, besides full throttle touch and go, again!
AF: "You've gotta respect this equipment, it costs millions."
Navy: "Built in the USA, baby!"
Navy planes are made to withstand ridiculously rough landings because this is how they land their plane on a aircraft carrier, they don't have room to slowly come to a stop so they slam their plane down. I know it's a joke but yea
@@JanitorMortis bro no one asked stfu lmao
@@JanitorMortis People say the joke is that you do not land on an aircraft carrier, you crash onto it.
The real funny part is that it is not actually a joke.
😂
@@petert3355 Absolutely
USAF Pilot: Look at that beautiful 10,000 foot long runway
Naval Aviator: I think I'll land on that moving postage stamp in the middle of the ocean
@Twisted-Rave 10
@Twisted-Rave its very weird approach.. you have to set up on the right and intercept where you THINK the landing area will be when you get there. not where it is at the current moment. The turn to final is actually about a half mile out or less. Most people i see in sim land diagonal because they don't calculate the angle or try from straight behind and not off set
USN Pilot: Look at that beautiful 1,50m long landing gear
@Twisted-Rave YEAH! The postage stamp don't sit still. Not only is it still moving away from you, it's also bobbing, weaving, rolling, yawing, bucking like a bronk too.
Like trying to land a drone on a pissed off bull's ass during a Rodeo
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that's also PITCHING, at NIGHT, and in the RAIN! LOLOL Navy pilots best in the world!!!
“She’s built to take it, so she gon’ take it”
That's what I say about my wife.
@@trudownsouth8490 yeah that is what I say about your wife
@@clan_houltz
I was talking about yours too.
@@trudownsouth8490 well yeah your mother is very nice
@@clan_houltz
Your mother is very drippy.
Air Force: "I have the whole runway I'm gonna use the whole runway."
Navy: "I have the beefy landing gear I'm gonna use the beefy landing gear."
This. The planes are built different for different missions and operation environments. Both pilots landing their planes the way they were trained.
@@gregiep ha he tried to land it how he was trained
@@MrSimplified their planes are made to land on aircraft carriers with very short runway. Therefore they practically slam them down. There's a reason they both use different aircraft.Quite sure you don't know what you're talking about
You got it backwards bud, the first plane was navy the second is air force
@@FranzFartinandFirst plane, F16, is flown by USAF. The F/A18 is flown by the US Navy.
"We have determined that your back issues are not work-related." -VA
OMG! THAT'S WAY TOO REAL FOR MANY VETS!
This should be top comment but not enough people truly understand
@@danielrivera1259 you are absolutely right! That review board should be called the screw board! Many don't understand.
"Service-connected."
OMG!!! I'm laughing with you, not at you - your comment is 100% spot on!!! The VA hates me as I call them out on their BS daily fighting for my disabled Army Veteran husband. People think I'm nuts when I try to share the horror stories.
AF pilot: "I love these long runways!"
Naval Aviator: "Me too, but why is it so wide?"
😂😂😂 underrated comment
10K feet wide to be exact.
This wins the internet.
If your runway doesn't move, it's just a way
@@naverilllang”I need a Runaway, not a Runway!” - Navy, probably
USAF: "Brake upon contact."
USN: *"BREAK UPON CONTACT"*
This is the best one i've seen
This needs more recognition lmao ITS SO GOOD😂
Air Force: “Ah, a perfect mile-long runway to softly touch down on.”
Navy: “If its flat, hard and 100 feet long, were good.”
pause
@@moneebkhan3744 ayo 😦
I saw a porno with the same title... It also had some seaman in it too 🤣
🤨
That's what she said....🤣🤣🤣🤙🏻🥃
AF: I don't want to piss off my crew chief
Navy: Hey chief watch this
Exactly xD
Or the keys are just made different 👀
Lol 😂
More like:
AF: don't want to piss off the Crew Chief
Navy Crew Chief: sir, what took you so long? You babied her all the way to the deck. It's nearly beer-30 and we want to cut outta here.
xD
AF: I'll have her home by 7:00
Navy: your daughter calls me daddy too
Another best comment
nahhhhh 💀💀💀💀
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Legendary !!!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
😂😂😂😂
Navy pilot be like: "I dont need that much. I can do it on a dining table"
Underrated
This comment is waaaaaay too underrated wtf 😂😂😂
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FYI, it takes way more stick control and finesse to land like the air force then to slap the fuck out of the runway.
Navy pilot should have come in from the side, landed, get out of his plane and say "you Air Force guys have nice wide runways, but they're a little on the short side..."
"sir its not a carrier... you don't need to slam down at 10 knots over max landing speed... there is plenty of runway"
Naval Aviator "cool story bro."
More like 100 knots lol
you mean 10 kts over stall speed
Tower newbie. Why's he hitting re heat he meant to be landing.?
Everyone else.... shakes head
@@zawadlttv same difference, you know what they meant
@@zawadlttv hey man, that's just the way I like it. Stall sets in right the moment I would touch down, I'm happy
Air force pilots: NOOOOOO THE RUNWAY IS TOO SHORT!1!1!
Navy pilots: ah yes 200m runway
😂
to be fair, Carrier Based Variants of fighter jets are designed to handle such a short runway, and most importantly have *very* sturdy landing gear, if you put down an F-16 like the F-18, the landing gear would most likely buckle
DiD yOu KnoW🤓 that modified carrier aircraft brake the living shit out of their back landing gears there for dragging it a little bit with the already attached tail hook so they replace the wheels every few dozen flights…
@@sweatybotfn9982 the tail hook gets swapped out every 10 or so landings as well. Used to work for a company that coated the hooks in thermal coatings. The coating both makes the hook last longer and protects the cable from getting worn out.
@@Acepilot235 quite expensive 🤔😳
Air Force: gentle gentle sing to your child
Navy: LEEROOOOOOOY JEEENKINS!!!
lmao its the best one
Best comment!!
STICK TO THE PLAN !
Air Force " Almost there , almost there , almost there, aaaaand touchdown"
Navy "Done"
The reason why navy fighter pilot touch down hard, is because the planes their using ( F-18 ), is made to land on aircraft carriers. And in order to get caught by the arresting cables you have to touchdown quickly, because you don’t have a ton of room, because as said, it’s an aircraft carrier. Therefore you can see that navy pilots touchdown hard because that’s what they’ve been trained for. Hope that made sense
@@potetmesteren3983 thanks for the point
@@kitsunemesis 👍🤝
lmao im dead 💀💀💀
Air force = Emirates
Navy = Ryanair
Air Force: “taps to ground”
Navy: “This bitch has good suspension”
He is the best rapper
@@NLFO4EVER don’t you mean was?
@@Pengu_VR I still think he is
@@NLFO4EVER lol
@@NLFO4EVER But he’s dead
Tower after seeing navy approach: “Did you land or get shot down?”
Both but in reverse order
🤣
🤣🤣
Pilot: Smooth operator
“Yes.”
Air Force: Counteract the crosswinds by lightly applying yaw
Navy: Counteract the crosswinds by stalling. The landing gear can take it
Ryanair: give me the name of that navy pilot 👀
Ha ha ha !!!
Right on mate !!!!!
Heard a pilot say after a bad landing a passenger popped his head into the cockpit and asked “so who’s the navy pilot in here”
Corporate bullying 🤣
Maverick! 🤣
The comment I’ve been looking for!!!!
F16 Pilot: Ehh that was a rough one
F18 Pilot: That was smoother than Expected!
Top 3 comment
Air Force pilots: **takes stairs inside the pool**
Navy Pilots: **belly flop**
You win the internet today
Lol
LMAO.. that was good
🤣👌🏼❗️
Who the fuck doesn't jump in
Air Force: “slow is smooth, smooth is fast”
Navy: “grip it, and rip it”
Air Force: "a happy landing concludes my sortie today"
Navy: "thanks for flying with Ryanair"
What's sortie? I have also seen it in AC but didn't understand what it meant
@@elitefaq914in English it stands for dispatch/mission, in French it literally means exit
The funny thing with Ryanair, I think someone said 50% of its pilots are ex-navy pilots
@@angelic_disappointment7889 idk if 50% of them are exactly navy but can confirm a good chunk cause I fly Ryanair and when I get a hard landing I yell "Go Navy!" 🤣🤣, then as I proceed to leave the plane, I'll tell the pilots "a good landing is a landing you can walk away from!" they always chuckle and grin
Literally flied ryan air once, the landing was harder than that second landing. The boeing 737 bounced like 5meters into air from first impact and it felt like being in a car crash. Probably some crazy old russian navy pilot with a slogan "landing = controlled crash"
Air Force: "Easy does it. Hold. Hold. Nice. Like kissing a butterfly."
Navy: "I hate butterflies."
Navy: Bites butterfly
Air Force: butterfly 🙂
Navy: SCHMETTERLING!!!!
Navy: I smash the Butterfly.
Smash that butterfly!!
Navy; HoRnEtS RuLe
Now I know which branch of the service my last airline pilot was in 😂
Ryanair?
You know....
Jokes aside .. many pilots in America are ex military pilots
@@aah4587 yes sir! And everytime I find out they are I shake their hand.
My friend flew Southwest one time and he landed pretty hard, coming out of the plane he told the pilot, nice 3 wire, the copilot just died laughing...
AF "nothing but Butter"
N "I can't believe it's not butter!"
Air Force: "I'm sure the runway is right where I left it. Totally no doubt about it." Navy: "Half the fun is figuring out where that carrier wandered off to..."
You know they have radars to track down the carrier.
Also i know this is a joke
@@danielncs3750 I know you know it's a joke, but your comment made me think of ww2 when the pilots didnt have radar, and had to keep track of where the carrier was, and guess where it is, after a sortee
@@Typexviiib
And quite often the carrier had been forced to move away from the expected rendezvous location. Especially after dusk.
@@danielncs3750🤡
@@Typexviiib Good thing the HAYRAKE system was fitted on Allied aircraft carriers.
my boy said he gotta catch that wire 😂
The copilot: "But Sir there's no wire!"
Pilot: "Did I fuxking stutter?"
@@m.farizakbarhutasuhut3074 🤣🤣 fr
Air Force: This thing costs 18 million dollars
Navy: I don't want to get wet today.
try 80 million
more
@@ImJustShadow. at the time it was purchased that number is pretty close. In todays money it would be about $65M
Air force: Nice and easy, soft landing
Navy: Hold my beer
Hell Yeah !!!!! 🍺🦅🇺🇸
Air Force: “you gotta gingerly set the nose down over the course of the whole runway…”
Navy: “CATCH THE WIRE! CATCH THE WIRE! CATCH THE WIRE!”
Lol, yup!
On the off chance you are wondering why they keep the nose up as long asp possible in the AF, it's because they are using the plane as an air-brake which helps with both slowing down, not slamming into the ground, and helps keep the brakes from overheating.
The Navy's landing gear is reinforced, but on a standard runway they will generally still land in a similar fashion, unless they are just super used to carrier landings.
You could also say the Air Force likes em' smooth, and the Navy likes 'em rough though too.
Never 1, never 4.
@@spartan9458 AFAIK even among non-carrier aircraft, the F-16’s reliance on aerobraking is excessive.
Hey, when you gotta get down, you gotta get down..
I think my vertebrates just became vertebros. They’re so much closer!
Yep. That's a one wire
Under rated bro
@@nuru666 came here to say this too
Jester? Is that you? How come you didn't eject yet?
Bruh, best comment
AF: Well, it's a multi million dollar aircraft, I'm not just going to slam it into the ground
Navy: BUILT FORD TOUGH BABYYYY
“Plant that bitch” - bush pilot
Good job it's not actually "ford tough"🤣🤣
LMAO
Underrated
Hornets have good landing gear to help with rough carrier landings
Airforce: Always gentle
Navy: FUCK IT WE ROLL
Why beat up the equipment???? Taxpayers (like me) paid for it!!! Obviously the Navy doesn't give a F*CK! 😡😡
AF: I will be gentle...
N: Bite the pillow!
Your comment on the Air Force Navy pilot landing, had me rolling on the floor
As a Naval Aviator I for some reason agree with Air Force;
like the waves on a sunny day!
Ah yes, the "gotta be gentle, hope it doesn't break" vs "I have better suspension than a monster truck"
I mean tho, a aircraft shorter is way shorter than a runway so you would wsnt to get down as fast as possible to not slide accros the deck
@@blitz19872 r/ihadastroke
@@blitz19872 Which is funny because the idea on a carrier is to not reduce power at all in the landing.
Its got nothing to do with landing length and the fact that one is a game of catch the other is a controlled stall.
@@rascototalwar8618 I don't see a 140 knot landing speed with full power. What happens is they go to full throttle on touchdown in case they missed the cable they have the speed and power to 'bolter' which is to go around again.
while some of the replies are partially correct and others aren't, the real truth between why the F18 Hornet has such a reinforced landing gear is because "sea makes boat go up and down" lol , , , , take a second, it will come to you.
At the American Airlines pilot interview:
" So which branch of the services did you fly with?"
" Nav uh, I mean Airforce..."
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Honestly they would prefer navy. American Airlines sucks
...meanwhile at Ryanair.
Navy you say? Your hired!
For real tho… American pilot bout broke my back coming into Dallas from Brownsville last month. Whole plane let out a loud “ooof” on landing.
@@mks913 ok 3 wire 😂
Air Force: “I’ve used lube, I will be gentle”
Navy: “here it comes, with a hand of sand and a run up!”
🤣🤣🤣 That's it, you've won the internet!
Js found this comment and holy 💀 dead rn
Air Force: "like a gentle kiss on the cheek"
Navy: "shove yer tongue down 'er throat"
His* it is the navy after all
@@snipinmonsta i was about to comment the same thing😂
😂😂😂😂😂
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@@lyrebirdX2 bro you gotta be joking 😂
Air Force: I'll be gentle, don't worry...
Navy: Bite the pillow, I'm going in dry
Lmfao
By far my favorite comment to date!
@@logyz450 same
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Air Force: “oh just the tip please..”
Navy: “RUN HER ON HOME, PILOT!”
BALLS DEEP!!
HIM*
@@YoYoHanSolo they/them
I think you mean “him”
“RUN HER ON HOME!”
It’s a phrase. Who’s been under a rock for the last few decades? Hell, maybe century?
AF: This is why we have good instructors
Navy: This is why we have good ground crew
I think you got that backwards
AF: Set it down like you're kissing your sister....
Navy: I got it, pound it like it's his sister.
Savage....... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Actually...it would probably be said in reverse...
*brother for navy
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Like it's his "BROTHER"
Air force: "one should coax the aircraft down like a gentle dance."
Navy: "get that sucker on the deck fast"
Air force: you gotta treat the plane right, like a woman...
Navy: dats right, smash that shit!
Noooooo 😂😂😂😂
@@OrenTubing NAVY: "wam bam thank you m'aam"
they kinda have to burn off speed dont they
@@tophatfoxpro they actually power their engines to max, that way if they miss the arrester cable they can take back off and hopefully not go swimming.
Air Force: "Gentle, gentlllllle"
Navy: "Get on the ground, lunch is waiting."
Air Force: Refrigerated lunch.
Navy: Hurry up! Barbeque's going!!!!
Barbeque is not waiting for you.
Navy: My coffee's getting cold and my beer is getting warm👍
Air Force: You mother is waiting down here
Navy: The Admiral’s daughter is waiting in your barracks
They didn’t pretend to spend a million dollars on that suspension for nothing
fr
Air Force: I paid for the whole runway I’m gonna use the whole runway.
Navy: I paid for the whole plane I’m gonna use the whole plane.
Best comment ever! 😂😂😂
Love it
Neither paid for either. Crazy how that works.
Air Force - I’ll take it easy on the old girl and let the maintenance crew actually have a weekend off.
Navy - Fuck it. Mike’s working Thanksgiving, Christmas and fuckin’ New Year
Land it like a Warthog!
“I bought the whole reinforced landing gear, i’ma use the whole reinforced landing gear”
If your gonna jump on the bandwagon at least follow the same format, don't get lazy on us now lol
Af- knocks gently : noney i'm home
Navy - axe through the door: heere's Johny
Lol
The Johnny part LMFAO😂
Air Force: "Gently does it...don't want to bruise the tyres."
Navy: "DOWN IS DOWN!"
Air force: okay so this plane costs a fair amount, and it'll affect my record if I destroy something.
Navy: Fuck the ground AND the plane
Made my day 😂
Well put 😂
Nah the F18 landing gear system is designed to hit the deck hard, being a carrier based aircraft
Thats called "Made in the U.S.A.!"
@@n.a.6735
Airplane made in the U.S
Ground made in the U.S
Costly damage made in the U.S
Airforce: "just give that ground a kiss a Little smoch" "
Navy: "Like it's your sister!"
Cursed
Did not know Alabama had a sea line
brother* for the navy boys :)
Like the penguins
That's harsh
AirForce: “I’ll make sure to be gentle and go real slow”
Navy: “We don’t need lube”
I instantly thought of Nikki Ortiz portray of airforce and navy. That shit funny as hell
Sounds like something you’d hear on a sub…
Hahaha. Tell my gf That all the time.
@@someonesomewhere4427 lmao air force would never let navy do that
@@someonesomewhere4427 Same lol
Air force: "fuck it, i'm using the whole runway"
Navy: "fuck it, i'm using the whole suspension system"
Airforce:’Kiss it like it’s your sister Rico’
Navy:SWEEEEET HOME ALABAMAA
I remembered the same line!
Uncle Grandpa Dad mode enabled
Lmfao I almost thought that first line came from the mission in GTA VC where Tommy bombs a Cuban deal and his partner is Rico with a speed boat
They bang the tarmac
USAF: "I may not make it, think I'll have to try again"
USN: *"I don't care if I break the tarmac, I'll land first try"*
I was at KLAS watching landings from the Sunset parking lot. Normally a planes wheels touch down, right in front of the lot. This day a storm front was coming in, and ATC said they had a Wind Sheer Warning. Well, on final was a JANET flight, and I thought for sure all flights on approach would go around. NOT THIS GUY! He landed on the numbers!!! By the time he rode past us at the parking lot, he was doing 35mph. You could tell he was a former Navy pilot after a landing like that.
Air Force: butters the bread.
Navy: hey, look at my Ryanair impression.
....
Shit- still too soft!
Would be a more believable ryanair impression if he wingstriked too
@@---zo8jc
And tail strike. Gotta slap in a good tail strike
These 3 comments got me crying LMAO 😂
Lol
Too accurate as I was literally on a RyanAir flight a few days ago and the pilot was too fast on the landing lol
Legend has it that navy landing gears are made of nokia components
Branches driving
Air Force: I'm gonna approach the speed bump at a slow rate of speed to ensure a comfortable ride
NAVY: let's see how much air I can get
Marines, let's ram this army dude off road, jump the speed bumps on to top of air force truck and crush it. All with a big smile and a OOORAH!
🧢
🤪
Ugh one of those marines
Marines: what speed bump
@@cameronrussell1261 the enemy are speed bumps all other branches know not to get in the way.
Navy: “previous work?”
A: “ryanair”
Navy: “you’re hired!”
No it's supposed to be other way around
Tell me you are intellectually incapable of flying an alpha approach without telling me
When working EOR (USAF) we used to get a kick out of watching Navy pilots land,on a mile long runway, in the first 100 ft. 😂 Lol.
Then slap it in mil power when the wheels touch.
@@therobert9521 "force of habit"
I mean that kind of puts you Air Force boys to shame doesn't it?
@@Rob-hv5zq pfffffffft....hardly. I worked weapons on A10 Warthogs. We werent behind anyone. Ask how many Army or Marines EVER turned away an A10.....🤣
Anywho....back to Navy pilots landing....yes, it was hilarious.
@@lynchcreekmuzzy5759 except the Air Force has repeatedly tried to get rid of the A-10s, claiming they're useless. Only the Marines and Army keep intervening in Congress, which is why they're still around.
"If my landing gear can handle it so can my back"
Af: Thats landing
Navy: Thats arrival
For the curious people. The first jet was an F-16, landing only on runways of airports. It'd got a sensitive landing gear so the landing has to be gentle and the nose had to be kept up during the roll after touchdown to slowdown using air dynamics. The second plane is an F/A-18, commonly found on Aircraft Carriers. This plane has an extremely sturdy landing gear because it's designed to land hard on an aircraft carrier. The reason why the land hard is to catch the stopping wire in time. When this jet's landing on a runway, it simply uses wheel brakes to stop, so the pilot can either butter the bread or break his back.
That being said, according to some Navy guys I fly F/A 18s with on DCS, standard protocol (at least when they were flying) is to always do a carrier landing at airports for continued training purposes, unless there are very adverse conditions & you are bingo fuel and a few other edge cases.
@@CMDR_Hadion Changing habits can be dangerous at such jobs, especially when it involves million dollar damage and probable life losses.
I reckon that's why they stick to their regular carrier landing protocols.
'Break his back'?
Meanwhile the Harrier pilots land their craft like you would a helicopter
@@H982FKL-TG the landings is usually hard and while the gear has a lot of springiness, it can still be felt in the cockpit. So to put it simply, it's just a term for a hard landing
Air Force: This is sensitive equipment, we need to be careful with it
Navy: SINK IT LIKE A BRICK
USAF lands with a nice clear runway
Navy lands and asks ‘why was there only two other FAs on the runway? We had plenty of room for the whole squadron!’
Dude trained for arresting wires vs dude trained for a straight long runway
And notice who was on centerline...
@@mobius7089 fascinating.
Also the f16 tricycle landing gear makes it’s difficult to land from what the pilots told me when I use to maintain these bastarders
@@mobius7089 looks like the guy who kept air in his tires was a little off center
The f16 doesn't have good brakes it needs to rely on aero braking.
Air Force instructor, "imagine you're this feather, slowly, gently, floating back down to Mother Earth."
NAVY instructor, "imagine you're this bowling ball..."
LMAO. LOVE IT!!!
LOL
Navy scares all the other planes out of the runway
Knew immediately that Navy was the 2nd one 😂…”man the ocean’s really calm today”😎
LOL!
The Air Force lands and the Navy arrives. Don’t hate the player hate the game.
Air force pilot : "annnnd another great landing !"
Navy pilot : "IM JOHN CENAAAAAA"
RKO
Air force: my back is tight from long hours in flight
Navy: i need spinal fusion surgery now
Tower: Dude, u pounded that into the ground!”
Navy pilot: Was that what your sister said?
🤣😂🤣😭
You spelt boyfriend wrong lad.
@@NattyGuy they leave 5000 sailors come back 2500 couple's!
Navy pilots part time job: ✨Ryanair Pilot✨
"im given the entire suspension so im gonna use the entire suspension"
Like the Russians say
"worst case scenario the tax payer pays for it"
Air force: "Put her down gently, there we go"
Navy: "10 feet is all i need"
Navy: must land on a 50’x500’ moving boat in the middle of the ocean with no fences on the sides or front.
Air Force: must hit North America.
Aces!!!😁👍🏼
And even that isn't a given, as long as they hit a NATO country, they're fine 😂
Well they do have stops in the front in the form of massive chains that help to slow and stop an aircraft
@@GraesonBat Yeah but it's still extremely tight tolerances. There's not a whole lot of room for fuck ups.
In the middle of the night... in a tropical storm.
After flying for a couple hours.
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Or an overseas base that's still North America
The Navy pilot basically just mixed a vertical landing with a regular landing.
Navy: “We know you have many options when traveling, and we want to thank you for choosing Spirit”
Spirit landing aren't actually that bad imo barely felt it on my flight
No no no you got it wrong. It's Ryanair.
Aerosucre
@@DavidThumim99099 I was about to say Ryanair 😂
@@mr.person5209 Aerosucre to the rescue!
Air Force: nice and gentle... Don't want to scratch it
Navy:JUST HIT THE DAMN GROUND ALREADY YOU TIN CAN!
No, Navy pilots are trained to land with all the wheels at once because that is how you land on a carrier
@@redstar3752 i know this
Airforce: I'm so pretty, so pretty, so fresh, and so clean.
Navy: Drop it like it's hot.
BOOM LOLOL.
When a cable is all that stops you --- you put her down
Air Force: me heading to my girls house when her parents are home
Navy: me heading to my girls house when she's alone
LMAOOO
I called my girl and she told me to come over because no one was home. So, I go over there and no one was home.
I get no respect.
Giggity
Just the Naval aviator going to his girl’s house. He’s a gentleman regardless of who’s there, but he can get there like a boss savage.
You mean the opposite of girl for navy
AF: Fill it up for my next flight!
Navy: Transfer the remaining fuel to a new plane for my next flight!
Good one ☝️ 😂
Navy fighters are over built for the hard landings required by air craft carriers. If you could see a top down view of an naval air station vs air force base you would see the airforce rubber marks all over the run way while all the navy’s would be on the exact same precise line. Naval pilots > air force pilots.
@@JeremiahPTTN it doesn't particularly mean they're better pilots, it just means their aircraft are different. AF jets use lighter landing gear and brakes and have less reinforcement to save on weight and internal space, but navy jets prioritize carrier landings over almost everything else.
The moat hillarious comments section so far 😂😂
Cant get any better than this.
@@onehittaking961 ikr
I once saw a video of a hornet landing on an aircraft carrier so hard I could not believe whoever invented the suspension on that thing should win a nobel prize.
Air force: "bring it down gently"
Navy: "shit i left the stove on!"
The difference between knowing your gear can handle the stress and knowing the runway is about 10 times longer than you'll ever need.
Just practicing to land on carriers is all
Its done because its necessary, otherwise no need to put it through such stress
Not to mention the F-18 was designed for a carrier, so the braking performance is dogshit and it doesn’t have the luxury of aero brake like you saw the F-16 do.
@@d_kortman but the f-18 does have an air brake, it's located behind the cockpit. Heck it even have those thicc ass landing flaps to slow the plane down.
@@hairymanwich478 yes, both the F-18 and F-16 do in-fact have speed brakes. However, I was mentioning aero braking. This is a maneuver in which during landing, the pilot keeps the stick back and and nose up, holding the aircraft in the highest possible drag scenario on the ground which shaves off a tremendous amount of energy that would’ve otherwise been bled by using the brakes, causing significant wear. The F-16 can do this because of its delta wing design and because it weighs 17,000 pounds less than a hornet (dry weight comparison). The delta wing is able to provide a significantly higher surface area for the air to hit as the angle of attack increases compared to trapezoidal wings. This means more drag can be generated the more the wing is angled perpendicular to the relative wind. Due to the high angle of attack, the lift vector eventually joins the drag forces, offsetting vertical lift and creating maximum possible drag. The viper lands at about 150 knots or less and has enough drag pushing the wing back and holding the nose up until around 100-95 knots where it starts to lose lift/drag due to the inverse square law of aerodynamic drag. After the nose drops, the pilot then uses the brakes (or in rare circumstances drag chutes) to bleed off the rest of the energy.
This gives the F-16 a massive operational and maintenance advantage as it both conserves energy without wasting as much due to heat from brakes, and allows a longer lifespan of the braking system. Since friction is a similar force to drag, friction also increases exponentially relative to speed. Since the pilot is using aerobraking to bleed off around the first 40-50 knots of energy, this reduces the overall work the brakes have to do by a very large amount.
Air Force: " I'm coming in for a landing now honey "
Navy: " honey I'm home "
Plot twist: its the same honey...
Navy guy gonna hit it first
Air Force: Butterfly with plantar fasciitis.
Navy: King Kong stomping a village.
(Looks up "plantar fasciitis")
I learned something new today. Thanks! 🙂