My BIGGEST Unboxing! - NEO GEO MVSX Home Arcade
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- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2020
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NEO GEO was huge in the 90s as the brand you'd see often at arcades. They did have a console but it never took off compared to Sega and Nintendo. You can take home this retro-looking arcade, but we're not sure if the memories are worth $450.
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For those wondering, Samsung TVs from the late 90s and early 2000s had diagonal, 45 degree scan lines. It's supposed to be less distracting than horizontal scanlines. Vertical scan lines would be emulating a CRT set on its side - a lot of arcade games had sideways screens to allow for more verticality.
Yeah sideways CRTs (usually referred to as "Tate mode") are actually fairly common with classic arcade games like pacman and are often seen in vertical shooters like Raiden, or 1942.
But I don't think the MVS had any Tate games... It wouldn't really make sense to ether since the whole point was that you didn't need to get a new arcade cabinet to get new games, and that cabinets could have any 4 MVS games in them.
I did actually wonder. So at the very least you have helped one person.
I love when top comment is something you were about to search for more info on.
This however apparently was never a thing for any Neo Geo game or cabinet, so it must only be there because some of the display effects used are generic libraries.
I remember an old AVGN episode where he has a vertical TV
This is probably what I would purchase while drunk and nostalgic at around 4a.m.
Lol that's exactly what I'd do 😂
and then you see this at your door and be like "what did I buy this time"
lol
same here, and my girlfriend would be shaking her head when the UPS man shows, and I'm going O SHIT!! now I have to buy her something LOL!
Think you just defined a whole consumer market that this taps into:
5% Game collector aficionados
5% Confused parents who's kids wanted a PS5 and this must be better as included a screen as well
89% Serotonin/dopamine unbalanced shoppers.
1% Scalpers who are not market aware
I think all these modern arcade machines are mainly targeted at offices. I've seen a few of them (not this particular brand, just in general) in break rooms as gimmicks. For a company 450$ is not a lot of money if they get a cool toy for their employees.
No its for ppl like my brother. In their 30s. No kids. Now have own place and good job. Money to waste and nostalgia to milk. Ever notice its always games from 20 years ago?.
@@NSixtyFour well nobody really has any nostalgia for arcade games from the 2000s yet as they're still ridiculously common
Honestly there's a point to getting an actual jamma cabinet. Not only can you put an MVS slot, with a 150 in 1 cartrige ( or at least I think it's jamma, and if it isn't it popular enough that there's probably an adapter so you can use it over jamma ), you can also get most other arcade boards, and those cool looking n in 1 jamma boards. You just get a ton more games, and a proper display, no scaling/ fake scanlines and stuff.
@@NSixtyFour i'm almost 40, I have a girlfriend with a daughter about the graduate high school, and I still want one for my game room to go on top of my tiki bar. I also have an average paying job, so I'll have to save up a bit, but I've had the goal for a few years now to own 1 arcade machine, and this looks like one of the better mass produced ones made with lots of games, but these people you see on RUclips who just keep buying the Arcade 1Up cabs at $300+ with only a couple of games in them over, and over with iffy build quality, now that's a waste of money IMHO, and I'm sure with this one someone will offer an adapter kit to mod in a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB at some point so you can load MAME onto it making it a much better value for those like me who don't want to have to make their own cab.
@@TorutheRedFox Outside of Japan the 2000's and up era of arcade games have mostly been ticket machines, and Dave & Busters crap games, so I don't think as many will have nostalgic feelings for them for companies to even try to make machines like this for them.
4:15 Anthony, it has a power brick and not internal for compliance reasons. When a PSU is internal they instantly have to comply to a bunch of different standards as the device itself is considered mains powered.
An external supply can be made by another company and be already approved, then the console isnt classified as mains powered. Thus, avoiding additional costs and certifications required for emissions and safety.
If it's still an engineering sample they may just have added an external to get it out the door.
That said... there is nothing stopping you from mounting it internally yourself.
If this is just for the sample, fine, but when you can buy a PS5 for considerably less than this, cutting corners like that is an issue.
@@88porpoise Sony will sell more PS5 in a day then SNK will sell this in a year and Sony will be making more money at the same time, it's not an issue because you should be paying more for a super niche product.
that was probably easier to get a bajillion that were premade bong standard power to usb thing.
I'd pay $450 for this if there was some sort of computer in it that accepted ROMs.
You could mod a Pi 4 in dead cheap, but for that much if you take time you could build a full size cab with better screen, sticks and buttons.
You can load other NeoGeo ROMs from a USB stick in the back, apparently.
It has a USB port and 2 extra buttons that no NeoGeo game will ever use, so I think they built it knowing people would want to add more games from other systems. All we have to do is wait until the emulation community does its thing.
very likely is
I wouldn't worry too much about that, it'll be hacked in no time anyways.
When you use an external powersupply, "regulations" see it as a low voltage device, therefore much easier to get cleared for safety. The 110V/230V safety regulations lays with the manufacturer of the external power supply. Once you connect a 110/230V directly to the arcade machine, then that whole device falls under that strict catagory.
This 100%, plus it's cheaper to go with a common external power supply that if it gets damaged in someway can be easy to replace.
Sell the power supply as an "included addon" with simple installation. It's just a waste of space the way they are doing it.
Yeah, I was looking for that exact comment to proof my thoughts on why they use an external PSU. 🙈 Thank you! 😁
That said... there is nothing stopping you from mounting it internally.
@@wobblysauce No nothing stopping you other than having to modify the power jack to be internal, and then pass the power plug through the case, but it would cause more heat to be inside the system as the PSU heats up. I would rather just cable manage the wires with some zip ties, and use some 3M double sided tape to mount the PSU to the outside of the back panel for airflow, and if it ever fails for some reason it's easier to place then having to open the system back up.
Man short circuit is always so fun, I have no interest in most of the stuff here but having people passionate about different things and experiencing it is fantastic, and always a joy to watch
I agree, Short Circuit City is always at its best when their hosts and employees actually care about the passionate tech they are showcasing and reviewing; not just phoning in the reviews for worthless “peels” and “unboxing cardboard experiences”.
Talk about the tech, talk about the price, talk about the hardware, why it’s special and worth owning; and conclude with the value per dollar.
This is awesome. We had a neo geo as a kid that was bought by my grandfather, and we had quite a few games. I remember the cartridge size. My friends were in awe to see this video game. It was wwwaaaayyyy ahead of its time. I was young at the time (the machine belonged to my older brother), but I do remember going to a specialty electronics store to get it, and I remember everything being in Japanese. Buying the neo geo and games for it was like doing a drug deal lol. It was not something in the main part of the store. This was a total back room item, and I don't remember the exact cost, but it was not cheap. And the games were incredible.
Personally I'm okay with the external power brick because it's gonna be easy to replace if something goes wrong.
If they built the power supply onto the board, a regular person would have a hard time repairing it.
Maybe the best of both worlds would be to hide the power brick inside. But I'm not sure if it would get too hot.
Generally speaking, if you've got a processor that doesn't even need a heatsink, your power supply doesn't to worry about cooling either.
The main reason is for NRTL compliance. Easier to get an already approved power supply than to have the entire cabinet inspected for safety.
@@thedopplereffect00 More like it is using a Raspberry Pi computer or similar to power the emulation
i love how im seeing you so much in the shortcircuit comments lol. i remember watching your videos like 3-4 years ago all the time
It doesn't even have to be on the board. Just inside somewhere for convenience.
_Is Nostalgia worth $450?_
Depends, does Anthony come included?
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I'd pay much more, if he is included
@@turkeygod4095 ah, that rip :/
Not much one can do against bots sadly, ty for notifying me though.
@@Ikxi ikr
This isn't Wayfair.
"A lot easier than unboxing an actual arcade machine" now I have the feeling Anthony has arcade machines at home
I would like to see a short circuit of the team showing off some tech they personally own that they have a passion for.
I think they have an arcade in their staff lounge
@@devonkoudijs There is a LTT episode (from the intel extreme upgrade series) where you can see Anthony's house and the stuff he has, that comes close.
There's a video series where Intel gives $5k to some LTT employees to buy new setups and Linus goes and visits their houses to help install said setups. There's an episode with Anthony (and there's also one with Riley I believe... and more to come). Go check it out.
when i heard that i thought, "yeah, he seems like someone who would know that'
I enjoy and really wish Anthony had more on screen appearances.
>neo geo
>$450
Now THAT'S nostalgia. Even the cost of an arm and a leg is like it was in the 90s. Some things never change.
$450 for that amount of games is fine. Seriously. I have one of the old BIG Neo Geo arcade controllers...it was around $180. And no, i don´t want to talk about what i paid for the Neo Geo CD back in the day.
@@2nd_Directorate yeah this is bargain neogeo
@@NSixtyFour Depends on what experience you're looking for, if it's the true home arcade experience, and collecting each cartrige individually that's not even a bargain anymore. But if you just wanna play them games more or less legally, you can probably built an MVS system with a 150 in 1 cartrige for way less (also games and consoles are way cheaper on the MVS side of things, so go with that even if you don't want an all in one cartrige ).
people are fin with a $200 arcade machine with 1-2 games but $450 for 50 games is too much? lol
for any die hard SNK fan this is an absolute steal! especially because it actually has all the KoF games
I mean considering the AES was $650 without games in 1990 money (almost 1300 in 2020 money), that's not terrible. 50 games is pretty solid when you think about the competition, those Arcade 1 Up machines have a couple games tops and are about half as much. Plus they're Neo Geo games, which are a fair bit better quality than most other contemporary retro games imo.
Every other youtuber, "We were told we couldn't open it to see what's inside." Anthony, "Where's my screwdriver?" Lol, I love this channel!
Watch the Ashens vid
"no neo turf masters" my man Anthony knows what's best on the Neo Geo
it was at that moment I knew he was a true man of culture
Turf Masters, the baseball game, the soccer game, and the bowling game were the best.
@@heavyq neo geo has like 10 soccer games
Oh no!!! -
I'm a simple man, I see Anthony, I click.
I only hate you because I was going to post this
I feel like it's been a month since I've seen him in anything, though I have a backlog of LTT vids to watch, so what do I know.
I was also going to post this. We’re all a bunch of Anthony simps.
Gay
And then click like before watching the video
I'm glad that Linus let's Anthony take the reins on his own interests, pretty cool. I also like the dynamic between them. Anthony is very analytical, and Linus is more of "use the wrench as a hammer" type, and that's not an insult, it's fun to watch.
Please, make anthony his own retro gaming series/channel.
He should definitely have a channel called "Linux Tech Tips" where he can cover retro gaming among other things. If only dreams came true.
@@geetsthenerd This _needs_ to happen. My life won't be complete until anthony has a channel names linux tech tips where he also does retro gaming.
Totally agree. Love this guy reviewing. 👍
All Hail King Anthony
I got deep into collecting MVS cartridges before they became ridiculously expensive. At the time, Windjammers (a banger) was less than $200 for the cartridge. Some games for the NEO GEO now cost more than this whole cabinet. In that sense, it's probably a good value for 50 games. Thanks for showing this off, Anthony!
Anthony is such a great host. Hes so natural and genuine. Articulate, thorough, and unapologetically himself.
3:16 "It's tearable."
I don't know if that pun was intended, but I'm going to take it that way.
Growing up with those games pretty much exclusively, alongside Tekken and a few others the nostalgia is a lot stronger on me, and it probably makes the system worth more to me. Anthony did a fair review as he always does.
Thanks for cracking this open and taking a look at the guts, no one else that I saw do videos on the MVSX were too scared.
I'm not super surprised to see essentially a raspberry pi inside, that's about what I do for my friends. Full size cabs are hard to sell, but everyone wants a tabletop game system.
Ashens took it apart.
I really appreciate the detail in the review, you know your stuff. Picking up stuff like non integer scaling and the type of buttons puts this content well above so many other tech channels.
Dude, its time to buzz your hair 🤣
Anthony has came a long ways with his comfort level on camera. Love to see it.
Excellent look at this collection in an arcade cabinet, with that NeoGeo energy. Price tag wow.
And the breakdown, informative, and very cool. I never owned a NeoGeo. But it was an amazing system. Its price tag was very intimidating
Thank you Anthony for sharing a bit of retrogaming with us. We need more of these!
My boy Anthony is a fount of knowledge. I love his videos!
ME: Nostalgia is PRICELESS 😏
MY WALLET: NO IT'S NOT!!
roms are.
Interesting review - I wanted to get into neo geo again and relive the joy of having an AES. Purchased an AES with 2 sticks, all boxed and 2 boxed games for £420 with shipping from Japan to UK. Then got an AES multicart for £80. Total was about £500 for everything. Having lots of fun and would much rather have the authentic experience than an emulation box - definitely worth the extra bit of money IMO 👍 great review - subscribed!
thats exactly what I should do
Really love when you are presenting Anthony ! hoping we see more of you in the future
This is such a cool video, Anthony’s amazing.
When I see Anthony, I click like
A Linus vid .... Skip.
Anthony or Riley... Stop, drop and watch. 👌🏻
He's my fav too.
Anthony always comes in clutch with the no-nonsense reviews. Love it.
Great video...very fair and concise. Worth the money? Depends on who of course im getting one because of the mods ill be able to do and just because i love the big red. I see Viewpoint....neo turf masters and many more on this eventually 😀😄
Well I am relieved to hear Anthony knows what a dragon punch is, Linus just mashes buttons like crazy.
At last!!! Anthony, the Icon of Linus.
We need more Anthony content. His demeanour is so calming and the content is always interesting.
I like how optimistic and positive he is throughout the whole process while discovering some pretty horrendous features "the scan lines get thicker and thinner... which is a problem??" "a lot of slowdown in this game, but I'm sure that's how it looked like in the actual hardware" "you would get used to having the button like this rather than having them like the original Neo geo."
such a nice guy!
The first time Ashens of all people managed to review something before Linus Tech Tips
The whole time i thought this was an LTT episode, only the sponsor slot was weird xD
Thanks for the review. I just ordered one of these. Good think I happen to have a bag of Happ controls buttons laying about. LOL ;)
So happy you got to check this out.
I'm a simple fan, I see anthony - I hit upvote.
Upvote?
I think you got the wrong website xDD
@@Ikxi *laugh reaction*
JONO: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! 3:04
the bartop is perfect for my game room, as I could set it right on top of my Tiki Bar for game nights with family, and friends, and it looks like it could be modded fairly easy. So going to have to save my coins for this one.
Ahhh finally a new Anthony video. Good start to the week.
I was expecting a Raspberry Pi as thec heart of the system. xD
Andy! You're looking good! I can see the changes. That is great!
I love to see Anthony. He has such a smooth voice. He could read books and i would watch it.
The thumbnail selection is brilliant. Review of a home game arcade system is done by the no nonsense guy.
6:13 Anthony, this ain't capcom
Dragon Punch or DP is the term we use to describe the input forward, down, down forward in all fighting games.
Me being a 90's kid.
Nostalgia = Neverwinter Nights & Guild Wars 1
I have seen a lot of reviews on this one and yours finally sold me on it
I remember making my own Scanline PNG for mame. It was so cool when you finally got the effect right.
I've seen a lot of RetroPie like that for a quarter of the price with 16000 games on it
And all those 16000 games are probably illegal copies but yeah, for 500 I was expecting way more, starting the fact that the build quality doesn't look specially good.
Where
Last time I was this early, Linus was trying to make an Arcade PC
You are looking great dude. More energy too. Always a wholesome vid starring big boy
Awesome. Thanks for the video - well done.
I had a full size emulator-style arcade machine and ran out of room so had to sell it. This would work well for me. Thanks!
Yes epic timing.
I loved my arcade games when I was a kid back in the 90s, but I was almost always disappointed when games like Pit Fighter, Golden Axe, Mortal Kombat, etc, came out on consoles. They were never as good as the arcade versions; there just always seemed to be something missing.
Maybe it was just that it wasn't the same feeling as playing in the arcade, with the sounds from the machine's speakers, and all the other games in the background beeping away, and the smell of sweat, overheating circuit boards, and cigarette smoke, etc.
Or maybe consoles at the time were just crap.
But it was really hard to beat the feeling of popping 20p into Streetfighter II when some other kid was just about to beat M. Bison for the first time, and then whupping his ass with E. Honda's hundred hand slap and finishing the game yourself..
I had Pit Fighter on the Atari Lynx.
Talk about disappointment! 😂
@@bobafruti lol! Mine was on the Super Nintendo if I remember correctly.
But it was very pixelated and there were lots of things missing, like characters in the background, and there were no things to pick up and fling at your opponent, like chairs and barrels.
Nah, consoles at the time were shit compared to the arcade. Its not until the PS2/Xbox era where console finally become as powerful as an arcade machine.
@@third-ratedude4234 Yea, it was probably quite limiting, trying to fit everything into a cartridge and being limited by the hardware specs of the consoles at the time, whilst arcade games were basically built (I assume) with the required hardware and software that each game required.
At least for some games anyway.
I do miss cartridges though, they never had any loading times and were a lot more robust than CDs..
Pretty cool for whoever wants a NeoGeo Arcade without any effort.
I made one myself, there is a spanish place called Talentec that sells you DIY packages to build your stand and toptable for around 300/400 bucks, they ship worldwide.
In total it was more or less 600 bucks, ordered all electronics and inputs from there as well, the only thing I got myself was the actual device running the emulation, which was a Rasp Pi 4 which is running RetroPi and an 24' LCD I found for free.
My arcade for sure doesn't look as nice and polished as this one in terms of exterior aesthetics, but it was a lot of fun building it and I give it a lot more value having assembled it myself than buying it ready, plus its customizable, I'm running several emulators on it, over 20 thousand games which we all know I will not play 99.9% of them, all I cared for was NeoGeo anyways, huge fanboy of SNK.
More retro stuff! MOAR!
I recommend checking out the ashens review of this hunk of Junk.
A cultured individual I see
@@TheLaptopLagger I'm happy to see another cultured individual.
Strangely, I think Ashens review was better than Anthonys.
@@madbstard1 to be fair this is just a basic look at the cabinet. But his "they're okay" or whatever comment on the buttons really concerns me.
@@starpencil Yeah, thought he'd do a lot more info on it. Ashens hated the buttons as well, plus he really raged about the extra unusable white buttons. Had another look and the options menu/button config doesn't even include the whites. Wonder why they included them?
Nostalgia is what keeps Nintendo in business
0:53 Me, someone who played most of KOF from 94 to 2003 and most Metal Slug games, all in arcade: THAT'S A PERFECTLY FINE RESOLUTION AND GRAPHICAL QUALITY ANDY!
I often play lmg group videos on in the background when I'm working for company. I've got to say, Anthonys voice is much easier to listen to!
Something tells me that you are going to make a video to see if you can make your own for under 450
Depends on what are you standards for quality and effort. You can get cheap MVS consoles/carts seconhand, pair that with a supergun and some joysticks and your grandma's tv ( or any other CRT tv you can get for cheap, you don't have to get it from your grandma specifically. They provide the best neo geo experience in my opinion ) and you can make something that works for under 450$. but if you want an easy to setup and good looking option, this is probably the best you'll find at this price point.
Also I should metion the home console, but it's way more expensive (450 will get you the console and one or two games, depending on how cheeap they are), so not the best option if you're on a budget.
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It wouldnt even be hard. MiSTer FPGA is doing everything up to PS1s now I think. And you could probably put together one for like 200-350 bucks depending on how much you are willing to price shop, even a premade MiSTer kit is cheaper than this thing.
I fully expected a Raspberry Pi running emulation software there.
Same. I'd actually make one myself out of a Pi if not by the fact that I'm terrible working with wood and probably would cut myself three fingers off before reaching the drawing board.
If they haven't done it already, I wouldn't mind seeing LTT build an arcade cabinet.
Wish Anthony was in more videos. Hes no doubt my favorite employee in all of LTT. LOVE YOU ANTHONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For those interested in a better view at the filtering options just check out Ashen's review!
MiSTer + high quality USB arcade stick with Sanwa parts.
That's all.
Exactly
Any references we can check out? I'm guessing CRT all the way for this build?
@@dc5330 MiSTer can simultaneously output to CRT and HDMI. Google MiSTer FPGA to find the github about the project, or look up Smokemonster or RMC The Cave's videos on youtube.
We love you Anthony! You're wonderful and the exact person I would hope to unbox a product like this
I have a Neo Geo and Win Kawaks on my drive. I love to play old arcade games especially Neo Geo games. KOF 2000 was king back in the day.
Every smash player when they see the packaging: "Oh no please don't" followed by a jab jab power dunk
"When it started to show up in hotels in japan..."
I read this at the moment he said it. Kinda weird.
I would LOVE if Anthony did his own mini series on retro gaming in the modern day! Like going over what company's make best reproduction controllers for each console, things like that.
yes! Anthony talking calmly about random tech. just what I wanted!
Im a simple man. I see Anthony in the thumbnail, I click.
@Like A God Ohh
@Like A God verbatim?
Never ask permission to take something apart.
Beg forgiveness after you have already done it.
Anthony ftw - I really like the way he explains stuff. always the geekiest topics, but he's so relatable that I always get curious. I'd really love to see a show in which he discusses / reviews games!
thanks Anthony for the good work, cheers from Brasil
I see anthony, I click.
The question is: Does it have RGB?
Yes, the screen.
It certainly can do!!!
Wait do you mean RGB LEDs or RGB video output for a professional monitor?
@@BobofWOGGLE I mean Rgb LEDs, i'm not referring to the screen
@@andreilazar9575 Fair enough. Gotta clarify when we're talking about retro gaming, especially Neo Geo.
Anthony's presentation is top notch !
Great review 👍👍
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I'm a simple man: I see Anthony, I click.
Those button sounds are so satisfying
We need more Anthony videos! He’s my favorite LTT presenter.
Claim your " here within an hour " ticket right here
Gang
More like a minute
Yessir
Claimed
Claim.
7 seconds ago lmao
Great review! I really appreciate your comments because you seem to know a lot about this stuff. I’d love to hear your opinion about the iiRcade.
Still got a cupboard full of Neo Geo games and an RGB scart machine so i don't need one of these but still kind of cool. I guessing if you had turned on the integer scaled image with borders first and then turned on scanlines they would of worked better. As a back up i bought all my games for the Switch as the company who did those perfected it and the crt filter they used looks perfect.
Dude has a very unfortunate type of male pattern baldness. Glad he’s doing his thing, but he needs to embrace a different hair style. It really doesn’t look good as is.
You could easily build a far superior cabinet with 3/4in black mdf from the hardware store, raspberry pie 4, 20in dell 2007fp lcd, an arcade stick and button kit from amazon, usb powered speakers. I bought a 1up Arcade on sale at walmart for 50$ (Galaga) took out the screen replaced with dell 2007fp, drilled extra holes for extra buttons and stick kit I found on Amazon, hooked up a raspberry pie 4 running retro pie. So for about 250.00 when all was said and done and it blows the doors off this thing. If you don't mind a little work it's an easy mod. The hardest part for me was making an mdf frame for the monitor so it looked nice. I added a thick glass screen in front of the lcd for effect but that's not needed. My nephews love it. I like going through random arcade roms I've never seen or got the chance to play I have so many I'll probably never get thru them all. lol. This thing is more of a NeoGeo collectors thing which I'm not knocking btw.
I got an arcade 1up on sale for $50 last spring. I added new side art, a raspberry pi, and new controller deck. Now I have my own neo geo arcade machine and it is awesome!
Great video as always Anthony! Great content
I actually like the overall design. I might prefer a slightly larger screen area even at the cost of clarity, I probably have just gotten spoiled over the years with all the modern large panels. That, and I can't see as well anymore. Great Idea with a lot of potential. Thanks!