My dad has 2002 Honda IZY with GCV 135 engine. It still runs like a new. Even the drive belt is original, it doesn't slip at all. It's being used June to October half tank a week for 20 years now. Awesome mower!
Apparently, in the US Honda didn't sell that model engine. The model on this video looks like a GCV 160 which drinks more petrol and delivers the same result as yours lol. Most Honda buyers here want a GCV 200 which makes no sense to me for what they use it for.
@@campbellpaulI don't live in the US, but it's still a Honda and only the engine displacement is a little bit smaller. Otherwise it's exactly the same as GCV 160 engine.
@@campbellpaul Name IZY meant it was self propelled, nothing more. You can ever now buy same model with bigger GCV 145 engine, but it's not under IZY name anymore. So I think my comment was relevant. 😁
Love cleaning when someone neglects stuff I hate when things don’t look or run right, and I totally agree with your cleaning mentality, it’s the only way👍
I got a free Honda mower from a shop because I said I could fix a mower myself if it was broken, I brought $50 along but they said I could have one for free, $20 spent on a new belt and oil and it works! It started in one pull after I brought it home too.
Great pick up!. I would change out all four wheels, replace the pull start cable, repaint the silver shell (cover the letters), along with the handles, buy new blades, clean the carburetor, replace the pull cord and housing, and install a timer. Most importantly, keep the mower!!!
Thanks for sharing this video and the one where you replaced the busted engine gasket that was causing engine oil to leak. I bought a new Honda lawn mower in October 2011 that's almost identical to that one and it has the GXV160A engine, which I've used for over 12 years. I replaced the crankshaft twice after I broke it when trying to start it with an impact driver, something I will never do again and will never recommend to anyone. I had not been able to start my Honda for the last several days, so my wife insisted that I should buy a new lawn mower, so I bought a new Toro# 22297 last week during black Friday. My Honda is a lightweight compared to my new Toro but I still like it very much and today I finally was able to start it, but it developed an engine oil leak in the oil pan assembly. I will have to do the same thing you did in your video where you changed out the busted engine oil pan gasket in a Toro lawn mower with a Kohler engine.
Hello HG, Cleaning is the first thing on my list before I begin any repair, removing the old dirt and grease in my opinion is the beginning to a good end.
You should definitely fix it. From watching and following your videos your like me, you like to have your equipment work the way it was meant to. It would drive me crazy having something half fixed/working. Great video as always.
Mowers are usually simple and enjoyable to work on. To date the most difficult mower servicing job I've done was changing the oil in the hydrostatic transmission for my ride-on mower. No drain plug meant removing the entire transmission to change the oil which wasn't fun (especially dealing with the linkages). But other jobs I've done have been much more straightfoward.
You definitely have a thing for wheels, lol. It has made me gain a new appreciation for caring for them. It is something I will certainly pay attention to in the future.
I've picked up several Honda's this summer, just recently worked on an HRR similar to this one, engine was fine but self propel wasn't catching and wheel tread was gone. replaced all the wheels, the rear drive pinions and the plastic axle bushing/sleeves, works like brand new now.
Your mowing test-run is on a great looking lawn and makes your videos appear more professional. I get a kick out of repair videos by guys that then demonstrate the success of their mechanical prowess on lawns that are POS!
My Aunt has a Honda mower. It was once running funny and I drained the carburetor. Now it is back to normal. She never had any more problems with it I know of.
I've had my Honda mower for over 5 years and I maintenance the heck out of it to prevent any issues. It still starts on the first pull and the only changes I've ever made was two new rear wheels, Oil changes and Air filters. I use it regularly on a half acre land.
suggestion. If youre feeling willing (and still have this) take some 0000 steel wool or brilo pads to the stain. wet the surface a bit. Scrub. And should remove the staining. (Havent watched your cleaning video yet 😅)
I've worked on lots of those older Hondas, similar to the one you did. I know that if you find one with a metal-shell transmission, they are much stronger than the plastic ones! Also, about all of those older ones need those wheel bushings on the transmission axle honed and greased from time to time. Those often completely freeze up and stop the transmission, or the wheels won't roll backwards. You kind of have to learn how to do it, because there's a certain sequence you have to follow when you reassemble, or you end up spending lots of extra time redoing things! Once done, though, they will give years of good service. With those metal Honda bodies, you also have to try to keep those damp grass clippings out of the chutes after mowing. They are very prone to rust!
Honda doesn't sell parts for the gearbox. I did however find that it rarely fails completely and it is easy to recondition then it works like new and saves huge amount of money.
great job, I love doing this to older machines also. I recently finished restoring a 09 Yamaha 25hp, 2 stroke and it runs like brand new now. Currently working on a 2011 Yamaha bravo LT, can't wait to fire it up this winter. 😁
As you know from my earlier comments, I was having problems with my JD lawn tractor, I had a choice of an OEM carb at $175 or aftermarket for $30, guess what I chose? So far it works great. The test will come this winter when I am running it with the blower attachment when it's -50 out
I don't know how old that mower is suppose to be but after watching the video again I noticed the type of throttle lever and speed control it has. I have worked for 18 years at the Honda plant were that mower was built. That type throttle lever and speed control lever has not been used in years. In fact I can even remember the last time I saw that set up. Also for anyone who noticed the ID tag it say American Honda Motor Co, Alpharetta Ga. This is name of the Honda sale side of the company. The actual facility where this was built was Honda Power Equipment (HPE), Swepsonville, NC, but under the recent reorganization of Honda America corporation, the facility name has changed to North Carolina Manufacturing (NCM). Also I might be able to find out exactly when it was built based on the serial # on the ID tag.
that would be really cool, if you did. I'm guessing this mower is probably from the early 2000's. If you don't mind me asking, what did you do at the facility, in your 18 years?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Here is the information that I found, the database records are old and I think there has been a database system change but here is what was found. We believe the engine was built at 12:00am on 12-19-2005, it was married to the frame at 2:17:23pm on 12-21-2005 then shipped at 12:00am on12-22-2005. Then it would be shipped to an American Honda warehouse until sold to a dealer or retail location. The 12:00am time may not be literally accurate, because some database systems may default to the beginning of the day. But the 2:17:23pm would literally be the exact time the unit would be scanned into the system at the final inspection station. Also as a final note, every Honda engine is started at least once on the engine assembly line. If the engine is sold to other manufacturers. It may not be started again before sale to a customer. But if you buy a Honda lawnmower or other completed unit, each completed unit is started a second time on the frame assembly. That we know that you should have no problem starting the engine. First time every time as they say.
That's a great mower you got. A new recoil is almost cheaper than the time and effort to fix that one (even if you can get a new grommet to stay in there) I can't recall seeing those dual blades aligned like that, they usually have about a 10deg off-set. Maybe that's why it's not mulching as well as other Hondas?
I picked up a HONDA mower, similar to this one, and it was toast. It had a seal on the flywheel side that gave out and slung oil over the top of the engine, which attracted dirt and debris to collect on the cooling fins. It wasn't long after that and the engine severely overheated and the lower seal gave out too. When the owner saw the oil on the ground it was too late. I took the mower home in hopes of resurrecting it and upon teardown it was clear of the heat damage. Even the crank journal was turning blue from the heat.
Cleaning my push mower is so satisfying I love my mower because it does a wonderful job at cutting grass I will take care of it until it doesn't work And when it doesn't work then I'll keep the engine as a trophy
Hey bro what's up? I have zero experience with lawnmowers bro, I'm strictly a trimmer guy. I think that you should definitely fix the recoil assembly and the rest that need repairing because from the looks of it, the mower seems to be in an alright working condition.
The eng. sounds really good and the deck looks to be quite sound. Make a sheet metal plug-over for the bag chute and if you feel you have enough yard to justify it, fix the self-propelled feature. Just a thought...
Fellow OCD Brother here. I’d have to try to fix it. I couldn’t let it go without trying. And as much as I gripe about people dropping off dirty mowers, I find it difficult to return them dirty. Cheers
Just wanted to say you do a really good job narrating and explaining everything. You take your time and how do i say it just have a good voice for teaching. Love your videos as i work on mowers myself and yeah I can relate with cleaning them... It really bothers me when no one takes care for or cleans there mowers. I was surprised but shouldn't be as you clean under where the bags go to as do i. Its just more pride and it looks a lot better selling a clean and well prepared mower to someone then a dirty one. Ive had some people tell me oh its just going to get dirty again. Thats not the point you put something out that looks like junk no ones gonna wanna buy it stop or want to try and get you to go down on the price due to its looks. Always like checking things over well to as i don't want it to come back and get a complaint and being in a small town things can get around and i don't want that. Anyhow just thought id reach out and let you. Keep up the videos. Oh and I still have my Toro super recylcer love it and I finally after 20 years bought a new honda mower. Nice to have two mowers in case one does break down. Always fixed ones up for myself but I really wanted to pick up this Honda with the HRX deck and the hydro drive that's like the now older lawn tractors. It has those orange knobs and so far its a really nice mower. I think its close to the one you have used yourself. Keep the videos coming Do enjoy them and I have learned a few new tips and tricks from you to help me fix some of mine. I sure try my best as I know you do as well.
Thank you Rares R for the comment, I'd like to think I'm doing what I feel is right, and that goes the same for the owners, who are going to or Not do, in this case. To each their own, so I have to respect their views as well.
My Craftsman Honda mower is 28 years old! I’ve replaced the oil every three months and kept it well. I used it every week or even twice a week. I am looking for the main clutch to no avail! It’s parts number: 75100-HOP-000! I would commit to the project of fixing this newer mower!
My HRX215 is still going strong, I have changed the hydrostatic drive fluid three times and that was before any problems so I never had any problems. yet
While I couldn't care less about appearance, I'll admit to being nearly OCD about clean cooling fins. For a personal Honda, I'd hold out for a hydrostatic. That's what I did. I watched the websites casually for TWO YEARS and finally found a HRX217HYA in amazing shape except for a ruined crank & main bearing. $25. I have a spare GCV160 blade-clutch engine that runs great, so this'll be a fun project.
I would try to fix the self propel and speed selector. It looks like the self propel was working when you pulled the cable, so I'd just feed the end of the spring back into the handle and use some pliers to bend the end over. Fixing the speed selector would be nice if it's a real cheap fix, and would help resale value if you were selling it, but then again if you were keeping it and like the speed where it's at, may not really be all that crucial. Considering how much where this mower has, I wouldn't spend a ton of money or time on the speed selector. As for the stain on the deck, I'd try some rubbing alcohol to see if it does anything. If not you may just need to wet sand and polish it, but that's gonna be a lot of work, and again not really worth it for such an old worn out mower. I'd probably give it a shot just to see if it comes off easy, but if not it's really not a big deal, and not worth my time.
now that you invested your time, you should complete the fixes. this mower is likely to sell for a profit after you fixed the neglect and abuse. you could keep it too and give your old one away. that's s up to you, I suppose. shops don't do a lot of work that seems easy if it's not the customers request, they may note what they observe. professionally, you don't touch what it didn't come in for unless it gets between you and what it did come in for. when the season starts, there may be 20 or 30 pieces of equipment in line for attention, parts ordering, and the shops turn around time gets to be important as the grass and weeds get taller. some people have to improvise while waiting because their homeowners assn. or the big city may write them up for grass and weeds being unsightly. unless the shop was slow, the extra attention and caring more than you're asked to, can cause issues with the customers unit or their satisfaction. it's best to let them say what they want and charge as little as possible where a shop can. it's not the space shuttle. ( to quote TARYL)
I'll be interested to see if you've tracked down the oil leak. I agree with The Lawnmower Lady about the blades. I think the HRRs have a bad reputation with the self propel mechanism, so there may be interest from some with that. I was expecting worse given your title. :D Not a bad mower at all!
That is an odd one for sure. The drive wheels are bald but i never seen the non drive wheels bald too. It might have been serviced at a shop but i think it had a very hard life and the scuff mark on the front of the deck is odd too. Good luck with it and a great video as well like usual
Use paint cut & polish to remove the stains. I did this to my car, & it works well, or you can use AUTOSOL metal polish. I would pull the transmission apart & fix the selector. Once done, You could use the mower in 3rd, & follow it riding on a big wheel skateboard.
Good day Yes have a look at it, then you will know. Why do front wheels always look like they are toe out I seen more like that. Thanks Boy cleaning them really improves them.
I always try and do a weekly preventative maintenance to all my small engine equipment. I'll take more time to clean my chainsaws more than anything just to keep the oily saw dust from building up around the cylinder and flywheel. I actually had one burn up on my because i didn't keep it clean
Hello HG, I have the HRR mower, could you not install bearings in the front wheels ? You would need the longer bolts like the back and not have a wobbly wheel. Just a thought.
I work where the mower was made. Look at the tread on the wheels they look like they are almost worn smooth. You should not have that much wear within 3 to 5 years. If the mower is beyond that age the amount of wear and age can’t be accounted for. The assumption is that the equipment bid use on fairly level ground and on mostly grass and not concrete and asphalt.
I would fix both issues if I was going to keep it. This video is a great example of why I don't care for Hondas. Every one I get seems to have cable and self propelled problems and needs carburetor work.
interested to see what direction you go with this Honda wondering if it's leaking by the governor shaft like you mentioned and hopefully the spring can be just bent back on the self propelled for it to work again
Another great video! I think you should at least look at the self propel and speed selector, you have proven by pulling on the cable that it works. Worst case scenario you get another video out of the mower, and you give it away. Best case scenario you make another video fix the drive system then sell it. The market for a self propel is much wider than a regular push mower.
Yesterday I had to repair a lock on my garage door. When I was finished, I took Windex and a toothbrush and scrubbed the knobs clean! WHAT HAVE I BECOME? 😄 If you are keeping that mower, can't hurt to take a look at the gear selector. Might not be as bad as you think. Have a great day.
The oil leaking governor shaft is an issue on a number of honda mowers and this coats the side of the engine with oil and dirt because there is no seal on in place , (wondering if this has to do with conceren over the small amout of friction a seal would place on movment of the governor shaft) you can get a seal that will fit from Hondas Marine division ,, part number 91231-891-003 , or search how to fix a How To Fix A Leaking Governor Shaft On A Honda mower , this applys to HRR216 but check to see if there is a place for a seal on your engine model.. one example of ths process ,when replacing the govenor arm on the shaft make sure you dont push the govenor arm back into the engine ,, and you must set the govener shaft by turing fully clockwise (to the right) before retightning the 10 mm nut on the govenor arm itself that clamps it to the govenor shaft , ruclips.net/video/S_Bqc8qgjc4/видео.html
The self propel on my Honda mower lasted about 5 years before it gave out. Likely what happened to this one. You can bypass the transmission so it freely spins.
I would try PURPLE POWER for the oil stain with a stiffer brush. That helped get most of a oil stain in my garage and completely get one out of pressure washer.
Cuts REALLY WELL considering it only has ONE BLADE (it's supposed to have twin blades at 90* to each other) and I'm certain I could fix the self-propelled in at least ONE GEAR, as Hondas are super easy to repair compared to MTD's, Crapsman's, etc. (but not oooold two-stroke Lawn-Boy self-propelled E and F engined models or God forbid a twisted belt-drive "D" engined one!!!). If "The ole Mower Man" waz still alive, he'd LOVE your Honda, though one without a start bar he'd LOVE MORE! Simpler is better was his motto for 70+ years-he loved two-strokes because they had no oil to change and no valves to burn or stick! He died at his bench at 103 years-old-and if you'd listen to him, he'd teach you more in a half-hour about small engines than guys learn in a lifetime.
i say go for it just put used parts on not new parts i had a few like that model and they can be a real nightmare to repair plus the cost of labor i can see why the other repair shop did not put much effort into repairing that Honda as the old saying saids buy a Honda Married to a Honda LOL HEY great video as always maybe some day you can show off your shop in a video
I'm wondering if I could replace the drive wheels on it with ones where the gear teeth are in the center and made of metal instead of on the outer edge and made of plastic, any response would help a lot! Love your videos by the way
on this Honda both small drive gear and larger wheel gear are metal. That means the larger gear on the wheels is not on the outside edge but of course in the middle.
It cuts well, pity you don’t have the mulching plug but sometimes they are on Market place cheap.. Did it come with a bag catcher? You may wish to get aftermarket starter if your keeping or selling. I’d open up the gear leaver may be a little rust on cable. Who gives away a Honda?😀🇦🇺
@@Cinder2008 lol 😂. Ever since I got a free lawnmower with a 1986 Briggs and Stratton. I’ve been using it ever since. We put the cheap chonda in the shed
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I also think you should use this as your personal mower. I just replaced my personal one with a 4 year old RWD Snapper with a Honda GCV160 motor on it that I will use till it no longer runs. Only part about this one I don't like is its got the auto choke and doesn't have the adjustable RPM like my old gcv160 Honda powered poulan Pro fwd has.
So I'm curious what people think about this but I bought a new Toro lawn mower with a Kohler engine about 2 years ago it's been great absolutely no problems but on the engine cover it says no oil changes required should I ignore that and keep doing oil changes on it like I have been or is it okay to not do an oil change on it? I've already done the oil change twice on it and I will admit the oil is pretty clean every time I do it.
don't fall for the advertising, they don't want you to do any oil changes to guarantee an engine failure, in a couple of years. Keep changing the oil, one a year, and you won't have any lubrications issues, for a long time.
Question for you, I changed the blade on a mower I have, I tipped it on it's side, changed the blade in like 60 seconds, set it back down, then it smoked ran very rough then died. I thought maybe I got oil in the cylinder so I let it set, tried that after a day and then a week, would just run rough and die. I have a loaner mower from my brother but it would be great to fix the old one. I was going to tear it down but I'm in the middle of remodeling my home. Any suggestions?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE carb up, that's why I don't understand, I've done this many times. None the less, I'll check both the carb and filter when I'm not up to my eyeballs in moulding and trim.
I noticed when you showed the spring on the drive cable that the end appeared jagged. This would Indicate to me a possibility that part of the end loop that fits the handle may have broken off. A replacement would be ideal, but you may be able to alter the existing one to work.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Where I work at paint thinner takes oil off of BBQ sized Freon tanks really good. Might have to scrub it for a couple of minutes. You might see some of the grey paint on your on your rag.
Could you please help me with my issues, I have a problem with my Honda lawnmower it's working well, it just 2 year old. But I got a problem with both wheels not spinning correctly, I just replaced the gears. But after I put them back. The wheel is not spinning. Could you please help me how to fix it. Thank you so much for your help.
Thank you so much for your reply my asking, I fixed it and it is working now. My mistake was not tired the wheels tire. Thank you for your help. May you have a wonderful day. And all the best for your family.
Hey Eric. I might forget your name lol but I will try to remember. Oh ok I actually have a big bottle of degreaser I could put that into a spray bottle and use that right? I thought you were using soap and water. I always get the satisfaction out of Cleaning my equipment. Just like you. Can’t wait for your next video keep up the good work.
I used to use just soap and water, but it turns out, more often than not, I need something a bit stronger, so now I just cut to the chase and grab one of the two
I don’t see why you wouldn’t do that kind of maintenance like changing the oil the spark plug and air filter good way to destroy an engine to not change your oil
Who said no changing oil is necessary? Bet the person use the mower probably once a month, use it daily he'll see why the maintenance is important, i wonder if his car got a oil change ever, same 4 cycle engine, logic?
My dad has 2002 Honda IZY with GCV 135 engine. It still runs like a new. Even the drive belt is original, it doesn't slip at all. It's being used June to October half tank a week for 20 years now. Awesome mower!
wow, that's pretty cool man, thank you WCKD for your time.
Apparently, in the US Honda didn't sell that model engine. The model on this video looks like a GCV 160 which drinks more petrol and delivers the same result as yours lol. Most Honda buyers here want a GCV 200 which makes no sense to me for what they use it for.
@@campbellpaulI don't live in the US, but it's still a Honda and only the engine displacement is a little bit smaller. Otherwise it's exactly the same as GCV 160 engine.
@@WCKD. Ayyy... "IZY" gave you away... In the US Hondas aren't known as that. Cheers, mate 😄
@@campbellpaul Name IZY meant it was self propelled, nothing more. You can ever now buy same model with bigger GCV 145 engine, but it's not under IZY name anymore. So I think my comment was relevant. 😁
Love cleaning when someone neglects stuff I hate when things don’t look or run right, and I totally agree with your cleaning mentality, it’s the only way👍
thank you Mike Jung.
I got a free Honda mower from a shop because I said I could fix a mower myself if it was broken, I brought $50 along but they said I could have one for free, $20 spent on a new belt and oil and it works! It started in one pull after I brought it home too.
very nice!
Great pick up!. I would change out all four wheels, replace the pull start cable, repaint the silver shell (cover the letters), along with the handles, buy new blades, clean the carburetor, replace the pull cord and housing, and install a timer. Most importantly, keep the mower!!!
That's the plan!
Thanks for sharing this video and the one where you replaced the busted engine gasket that was causing engine oil to leak.
I bought a new Honda lawn mower in October 2011 that's almost identical to that one and it has the GXV160A engine, which I've used for over 12 years.
I replaced the crankshaft twice after I broke it when trying to start it with an impact driver, something I will never do again and will never recommend to anyone.
I had not been able to start my Honda for the last several days, so my wife insisted that I should buy a new lawn mower, so I bought a new Toro# 22297 last week during black Friday.
My Honda is a lightweight compared to my new Toro but I still like it very much and today I finally was able to start it, but it developed an engine oil leak in the oil pan assembly.
I will have to do the same thing you did in your video where you changed out the busted engine oil pan gasket in a Toro lawn mower with a Kohler engine.
good luck with it, and that Toro model you bought is a nice one.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Thanks, I'll continue to watch your lawn mower videos.
I do appreciate that
Hello HG, Cleaning is the first thing on my list before I begin any repair, removing the old dirt and grease in my opinion is the beginning to a good end.
thank you FLSTF200, and yes cleaning is very important to a good repair!
You should definitely fix it. From watching and following your videos your like me, you like to have your equipment work the way it was meant to. It would drive me crazy having something half fixed/working. Great video as always.
thank you Gary Allen, I'm definitely going to at least take a look at it.
Don’t apologize for taking pride in your work. A little OCD is often a good thing! In my case, it’s my lawn. lol
thank you laurentco.
Mowers are usually simple and enjoyable to work on. To date the most difficult mower servicing job I've done was changing the oil in the hydrostatic transmission for my ride-on mower. No drain plug meant removing the entire transmission to change the oil which wasn't fun (especially dealing with the linkages). But other jobs I've done have been much more straightfoward.
thank you DriveAndMaintain.
You definitely have a thing for wheels, lol. It has made me gain a new appreciation for caring for them. It is something I will certainly pay attention to in the future.
I never gave much attention to them until I realized how important they can be.
I've picked up several Honda's this summer, just recently worked on an HRR similar to this one, engine was fine but self propel wasn't catching and wheel tread was gone. replaced all the wheels, the rear drive pinions and the plastic axle bushing/sleeves, works like brand new now.
very nice, thank you tconst2.
Worth fixing and using for yourself. Don't forget to adjust the valves, new plug, oil, and small stuff. Great job, many thanks.
thank you Waterman one .
Your mowing test-run is on a great looking lawn and makes your videos appear more professional. I get a kick out of repair videos by guys that then demonstrate the success of their mechanical prowess on lawns that are POS!
I do it when I can, it doesn't always work out. thank you Doug Sorenson.
My Aunt has a Honda mower. It was once running funny and I drained the carburetor. Now it is back to normal. She never had any more problems with it I know of.
very nice work, thank you Charles Hines.
I've had my Honda mower for over 5 years and I maintenance the heck out of it to prevent any issues. It still starts on the first pull and the only changes I've ever made was two new rear wheels, Oil changes and Air filters. I use it regularly on a half acre land.
wow very nice, that's quite the maintenance routine you've got there.
suggestion. If youre feeling willing (and still have this) take some 0000 steel wool or brilo pads to the stain. wet the surface a bit. Scrub. And should remove the staining. (Havent watched your cleaning video yet 😅)
That's a great idea!
I've worked on lots of those older Hondas, similar to the one you did. I know that if you find one with a metal-shell transmission, they are much stronger than the plastic ones! Also, about all of those older ones need those wheel bushings on the transmission axle honed and greased from time to time. Those often completely freeze up and stop the transmission, or the wheels won't roll backwards. You kind of have to learn how to do it, because there's a certain sequence you have to follow when you reassemble, or you end up spending lots of extra time redoing things! Once done, though, they will give years of good service. With those metal Honda bodies, you also have to try to keep those damp grass clippings out of the chutes after mowing. They are very prone to rust!
you are correct to the bushings. thank you Jack Worsham.
I love CLEAN lawn equipment, myself. By the way, I’ve been watching your restoration videos for a while, so SUBSCRIBED. 😎
fantastic, thanks I appreciate it.
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You bet!
Honda doesn't sell parts for the gearbox. I did however find that it rarely fails completely and it is easy to recondition then it works like new and saves huge amount of money.
thank you Peter Labiak.
great job, I love doing this to older machines also. I recently finished restoring a 09 Yamaha 25hp, 2 stroke and it runs like brand new now. Currently working on a 2011 Yamaha bravo LT, can't wait to fire it up this winter. 😁
Very cool! thank you Ezio
As you know from my earlier comments, I was having problems with my JD lawn tractor, I had a choice of an OEM carb at $175 or aftermarket for $30, guess what I chose? So far it works great. The test will come this winter when I am running it with the blower attachment when it's -50 out
I hope it works out
I don't know how old that mower is suppose to be but after watching the video again I noticed the type of throttle lever and speed control it has. I have worked for 18 years at the Honda plant were that mower was built. That type throttle lever and speed control lever has not been used in years. In fact I can even remember the last time I saw that set up. Also for anyone who noticed the ID tag it say American Honda Motor Co, Alpharetta Ga. This is name of the Honda sale side of the company. The actual facility where this was built was Honda Power Equipment (HPE), Swepsonville, NC, but under the recent reorganization of Honda America corporation, the facility name has changed to North Carolina Manufacturing (NCM). Also I might be able to find out exactly when it was built based on the serial # on the ID tag.
that would be really cool, if you did. I'm guessing this mower is probably from the early 2000's. If you don't mind me asking, what did you do at the facility, in your 18 years?
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Here is the information that I found, the database records are old and I think there has been a database system change but here is what was found. We believe the engine was built at 12:00am on 12-19-2005, it was married to the frame at 2:17:23pm on 12-21-2005 then shipped at 12:00am on12-22-2005. Then it would be shipped to an American Honda warehouse until sold to a dealer or retail location.
The 12:00am time may not be literally accurate, because some database systems may default to the beginning of the day. But the 2:17:23pm would literally be the exact time the unit would be scanned into the system at the final inspection station.
Also as a final note, every Honda engine is started at least once on the engine assembly line. If the engine is sold to other manufacturers. It may not be started again before sale to a customer. But if you buy a Honda lawnmower or other completed unit, each completed unit is started a second time on the frame assembly. That we know that you should have no problem starting the engine. First time every time as they say.
That's a great mower you got. A new recoil is almost cheaper than the time and effort to fix that one (even if you can get a new grommet to stay in there) I can't recall seeing those dual blades aligned like that, they usually have about a 10deg off-set. Maybe that's why it's not mulching as well as other Hondas?
you might be right about the blades, thank you The Lawnmower Lady.
Love the Monday uploads
thank you Copperhead Designs
I picked up a HONDA mower, similar to this one, and it was toast. It had a seal on the flywheel side that gave out and slung oil over the top of the engine, which attracted dirt and debris to collect on the cooling fins. It wasn't long after that and the engine severely overheated and the lower seal gave out too. When the owner saw the oil on the ground it was too late. I took the mower home in hopes of resurrecting it and upon teardown it was clear of the heat damage. Even the crank journal was turning blue from the heat.
sounds like a severe lack of oil. what are your plans for it?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE It was scrapped years ago.
Cleaning my push mower is so satisfying
I love my mower because it does a wonderful job at cutting grass
I will take care of it until it doesn't work
And when it doesn't work then I'll keep the engine as a trophy
Nice I like your perspective, thank you MOWER REPAIR MAN.
Hey bro what's up? I have zero experience with lawnmowers bro, I'm strictly a trimmer guy. I think that you should definitely fix the recoil assembly and the rest that need repairing because from the looks of it, the mower seems to be in an alright working condition.
me too, it's definitely going to get a good looking over
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I must say, the mower might have its issues but from the looks of it, it's a keeper in my books bro.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE $12-$15 for an entire pull start recoil assembly genuine Honda OEM!!!
The eng. sounds really good and the deck looks to be quite sound. Make a sheet metal plug-over for the bag chute and if you feel you have enough yard to justify it, fix the self-propelled feature. Just a thought...
thank you Dave F.
Fellow OCD Brother here. I’d have to try to fix it. I couldn’t let it go without trying. And as much as I gripe about people dropping off dirty mowers, I find it difficult to return them dirty.
Cheers
thank you Ez Ray.
Just wanted to say you do a really good job narrating and explaining everything. You take your time and how do i say it just have a good voice for teaching. Love your videos as i work on mowers myself and yeah I can relate with cleaning them... It really bothers me when no one takes care for or cleans there mowers. I was surprised but shouldn't be as you clean under where the bags go to as do i. Its just more pride and it looks a lot better selling a clean and well prepared mower to someone then a dirty one. Ive had some people tell me oh its just going to get dirty again. Thats not the point you put something out that looks like junk no ones gonna wanna buy it stop or want to try and get you to go down on the price due to its looks. Always like checking things over well to as i don't want it to come back and get a complaint and being in a small town things can get around and i don't want that. Anyhow just thought id reach out and let you. Keep up the videos. Oh and I still have my Toro super recylcer love it and I finally after 20 years bought a new honda mower. Nice to have two mowers in case one does break down. Always fixed ones up for myself but I really wanted to pick up this Honda with the HRX deck and the hydro drive that's like the now older lawn tractors. It has those orange knobs and so far its a really nice mower. I think its close to the one you have used yourself. Keep the videos coming Do enjoy them and I have learned a few new tips and tricks from you to help me fix some of mine. I sure try my best as I know you do as well.
Thank you Rares R for the comment, I'd like to think I'm doing what I feel is right, and that goes the same for the owners, who are going to or Not do, in this case. To each their own, so I have to respect their views as well.
My Craftsman Honda mower is 28 years old! I’ve replaced the oil every three months and kept it well. I used it every week or even twice a week. I am looking for the main clutch to no avail! It’s parts number: 75100-HOP-000! I would commit to the project of fixing this newer mower!
If I find something I'll let you know.
My HRX215 is still going strong, I have changed the hydrostatic drive fluid three times and that was before any problems so I never had any problems. yet
wow nice job!
One of my ocd killers about the HRR line are the wheels. They always seem to wear out the treads.
I know right, but then again, it could be because they seem to keep working for longer than they expected.
You can re cut treads with a triangular file.
While I couldn't care less about appearance, I'll admit to being nearly OCD about clean cooling fins. For a personal Honda, I'd hold out for a hydrostatic. That's what I did. I watched the websites casually for TWO YEARS and finally found a HRX217HYA in amazing shape except for a ruined crank & main bearing. $25. I have a spare GCV160 blade-clutch engine that runs great, so this'll be a fun project.
very nice mower you've got there.
I admire your pride and integrity
I appreciate that Stan.
Try a Mr. Clean magic eraser on that stain..those things are magical
ah, that's a good idea
I would try to fix the self propel and speed selector. It looks like the self propel was working when you pulled the cable, so I'd just feed the end of the spring back into the handle and use some pliers to bend the end over. Fixing the speed selector would be nice if it's a real cheap fix, and would help resale value if you were selling it, but then again if you were keeping it and like the speed where it's at, may not really be all that crucial. Considering how much where this mower has, I wouldn't spend a ton of money or time on the speed selector.
As for the stain on the deck, I'd try some rubbing alcohol to see if it does anything. If not you may just need to wet sand and polish it, but that's gonna be a lot of work, and again not really worth it for such an old worn out mower. I'd probably give it a shot just to see if it comes off easy, but if not it's really not a big deal, and not worth my time.
all very nice tips, I'll be sure to try them out. thank you NerfCraft.
Pressure washing rips the paint off rusty areas. That’s a good thing. Soak it in phosphoric acid, prime and paint.
Fix it. Touch up the Rust spots. Thank you for this video
You bet!
now that you invested your time, you should complete the fixes.
this mower is likely to sell for a profit after you fixed the neglect and abuse.
you could keep it too and give your old one away.
that's s up to you, I suppose.
shops don't do a lot of work that seems easy
if it's not the customers request, they may note what they observe.
professionally, you don't touch what it didn't come in for unless it gets between you and what it did come in for.
when the season starts, there may be 20 or 30 pieces of equipment in line for attention, parts ordering, and the shops turn around time gets to be important as the grass and weeds get taller.
some people have to improvise while waiting because their homeowners assn. or the big city may write them up for grass and weeds being unsightly.
unless the shop was slow, the extra attention and caring more than you're asked to, can cause issues with the customers unit or their satisfaction.
it's best to let them say what they want and charge as little as possible where a shop can.
it's not the space shuttle. ( to quote TARYL)
thank you Danny Linc
I'll be interested to see if you've tracked down the oil leak. I agree with The Lawnmower Lady about the blades. I think the HRRs have a bad reputation with the self propel mechanism, so there may be interest from some with that.
I was expecting worse given your title. :D Not a bad mower at all!
thank you BerkeleyGang.
That is an odd one for sure. The drive wheels are bald but i never seen the non drive wheels bald too. It might have been serviced at a shop but i think it had a very hard life and the scuff mark on the front of the deck is odd too. Good luck with it and a great video as well like usual
thank you hunter1953
Use paint cut & polish to remove the stains. I did this to my car, & it works well, or you can use AUTOSOL metal polish. I would pull the transmission apart & fix the selector. Once done, You could use the mower in 3rd, & follow it riding on a big wheel skateboard.
thank you for the suggestion.
Try T-cut on the stains.
I'll have to look it up, thanks.
Good day Yes have a look at it, then you will know.
Why do front wheels always look like they are toe out I seen more like that.
Thanks Boy cleaning them really improves them.
thank you Don Voll.
Today has been a great day for me, I just got a new Honda Recon 250 ATV and I plan on making content of it soon
wow very nice, I can't wait to see it.
I always try and do a weekly preventative maintenance to all my small engine equipment. I'll take more time to clean my chainsaws more than anything just to keep the oily saw dust from building up around the cylinder and flywheel. I actually had one burn up on my because i didn't keep it clean
very good advice James Hedrick.
Hello HG, I have the HRR mower, could you not install bearings in the front wheels ? You would need the longer bolts like the back and not have a wobbly wheel. Just a thought.
that's a good idea!
I work where the mower was made.
Look at the tread on the wheels they look like they are almost worn smooth.
You should not have that much wear within 3 to 5 years.
If the mower is beyond that age the amount of wear and age can’t be accounted for.
The assumption is that the equipment bid use on fairly level ground and on mostly grass and not concrete and asphalt.
wow, thank you Clifton Hall, it's really cool to have a honda worker on here.
Great video, Honda mowers and engines are great, I would try and fix the self-propel and speed selector.
I think they're good, but I can't force that idea, on people, only express it, thank you WildeFox.
I enjoyed this video, nice bit of humour. Like you, I'd look at the speed selector problem and fix it if easy. Especially if I am happy with speed
that makes sense, thank you Michael Walsh.
I would fix both issues if I was going to keep it. This video is a great example of why I don't care for Hondas. Every one I get seems to have cable and self propelled problems and needs carburetor work.
Right on
My brother had one of those and used it for almost 20yrs.
very nice, definitely got his money out of it.
interested to see what direction you go with this Honda wondering if it's leaking by the governor shaft like you mentioned and hopefully the spring can be just bent back on the self propelled for it to work again
me too, so far, I haven't seen a leak yet, and if it was going to leak, it wouldn't take any time at all
Another great video! I think you should at least look at the self propel and speed selector, you have proven by pulling on the cable that it works. Worst case scenario you get another video out of the mower, and you give it away. Best case scenario you make another video fix the drive system then sell it. The market for a self propel is much wider than a regular push mower.
thank you zerocool6370
Yesterday I had to repair a lock on my garage door. When I was finished, I took Windex and a toothbrush and scrubbed the knobs clean! WHAT HAVE I BECOME? 😄 If you are keeping that mower, can't hurt to take a look at the gear selector. Might not be as bad as you think. Have a great day.
Oh no!
I love this channel, such great educational content
Glad you enjoy it!
The oil leaking governor shaft is an issue on a number of honda mowers and this coats the side of the engine with oil and dirt because there is no seal on in place , (wondering if this has to do with conceren over the small amout of friction a seal would place on movment of the governor shaft) you can get a seal that will fit from Hondas Marine division ,, part number 91231-891-003 , or search how to fix a How To Fix A Leaking Governor Shaft On A Honda mower , this applys to HRR216 but check to see if there is a place for a seal on your engine model.. one example of ths process ,when replacing the govenor arm on the shaft make sure you dont push the govenor arm back into the engine ,, and you must set the govener shaft by turing fully clockwise (to the right) before retightning the 10 mm nut on the govenor arm itself that clamps it to the govenor shaft , ruclips.net/video/S_Bqc8qgjc4/видео.html
The self propel on my Honda mower lasted about 5 years before it gave out. Likely what happened to this one. You can bypass the transmission so it freely spins.
yes sir thank you Jason Barnwell.
I would try PURPLE POWER for the oil stain with a stiffer brush. That helped get most of a oil stain in my garage and completely get one out of pressure washer.
Be careful with the Purple Power! It works very well on my garage floor, but it dulled the paint on my Toro Super Recycler.
thank you Caleb Moody.
Look at your options and parts availability... and most importantly prices... and how much time it would take to invest..
thank you JJ Juarez.
Cuts REALLY WELL considering it only has ONE BLADE (it's supposed to have twin blades at 90* to each other) and I'm certain I could fix the self-propelled in at least ONE GEAR, as Hondas are super easy to repair compared to MTD's, Crapsman's, etc. (but not oooold two-stroke Lawn-Boy self-propelled E and F engined models or God forbid a twisted belt-drive "D" engined one!!!). If "The ole Mower Man" waz still alive, he'd LOVE your Honda, though one without a start bar he'd LOVE MORE! Simpler is better was his motto for 70+ years-he loved two-strokes because they had no oil to change and no valves to burn or stick! He died at his bench at 103 years-old-and if you'd listen to him, he'd teach you more in a half-hour about small engines than guys learn in a lifetime.
I'm not sure where you're getting your information from it was interesting to read.
Have you tried magic eraser on the oil spill on the deck
yes I have, it did not work.
Definitely take a look into the self propel. It's probably an easy fix
thank you BJ Jongejan.
i say go for it just put used parts on not new parts i had a few like that model and they can be a real nightmare to repair plus the cost of labor i can see why the other repair shop did not put much effort into repairing that Honda as the old saying saids buy a Honda Married to a Honda LOL HEY great video as always maybe some day you can show off your shop in a video
wish I could, thank you Roger St. Laurent.
Im pretty sure i dont have OCD, because i was at a doctor and i have ADHD instead. The thing is, i also cant leave something dirty...
understandable.
I'm wondering if I could replace the drive wheels on it with ones where the gear teeth are in the center and made of metal instead of on the outer edge and made of plastic, any response would help a lot! Love your videos by the way
on this Honda both small drive gear and larger wheel gear are metal. That means the larger gear on the wheels is not on the outside edge but of course in the middle.
I think a little OCD is a good thing! I wish more people had it. It was called pride when I was young 👍🏻
thank you Catcha Cow.
It cuts well, pity you don’t have the mulching plug but sometimes they are on Market place cheap..
Did it come with a bag catcher?
You may wish to get aftermarket starter if your keeping or selling.
I’d open up the gear leaver may be a little rust on cable.
Who gives away a Honda?😀🇦🇺
I know right, yes the mulching plug is going to help out a lot, and unfortunately no it didn't come with a bag.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I recently brought a mulch plug for a Honda 19inch $10, new-used, the frame and cloth catchers for 21 inch can be very expensive.
very true.
I had a Honda HRA214SXC for more than 20 years and it was always a single pull start.
nice!
Did you try gas on the stain?
no I didn't, I'll have to try It out though.
I'm still using my HRM w/hydrostatic transmission, must be 40 years old!
wow, very nice.
Honda lawnmowers ain’t that great to be honest. The flat head Briggs powered lawnmower are reliable, user friendly and easier to fix.
the briggs do seem to be built on a repair freindly design but i like how the hondas feel and sound better
I will admit that working on the briggs flathead engine is super easy and they're very reliable.
My 15 year old Toro Super Recycler has outlasted both of my neighbors Hondas. Of course I change oil etc. Not sure what they do.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE specialty the older ones
@@Cinder2008 lol 😂. Ever since I got a free lawnmower with a 1986 Briggs and Stratton. I’ve been using it ever since. We put the cheap chonda in the shed
What I have done in the past is re tread the tire with a whittling knife set
that makes sense.
Try using some lime away and lightly use memory cloth on the deck to remove the stain
thanks I'll have to start making a list to ways to get rid of this oil stain.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I also think you should use this as your personal mower. I just replaced my personal one with a 4 year old RWD Snapper with a Honda GCV160 motor on it that I will use till it no longer runs. Only part about this one I don't like is its got the auto choke and doesn't have the adjustable RPM like my old gcv160 Honda powered poulan Pro fwd has.
you're right, I just worked on one today, only to realize that the idle speed is set, and cannot be adjusted.
Most shops don’t want residential junk time is worth money
you are absolutely right, most won't even pay the service charge.
I use brake clean to clean off oil, etc.
brake cleaner is very good but expensive for the coverage.
I would buy that mower!!!
Do those front wheels need aligning?
yes but it's not easy to do.
So I'm curious what people think about this but I bought a new Toro lawn mower with a Kohler engine about 2 years ago it's been great absolutely no problems but on the engine cover it says no oil changes required should I ignore that and keep doing oil changes on it like I have been or is it okay to not do an oil change on it? I've already done the oil change twice on it and I will admit the oil is pretty clean every time I do it.
don't fall for the advertising, they don't want you to do any oil changes to guarantee an engine failure, in a couple of years. Keep changing the oil, one a year, and you won't have any lubrications issues, for a long time.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I figured as much that's why I decided to do the oil changes anyway. Thanks for your response!
no problem thank you for your time.
What do you use to clean them? I've always wondered 😊👍
I use a combination of gunk degreaser, or a citrus based cleaner you can get a the dollar store
Question for you, I changed the blade on a mower I have, I tipped it on it's side, changed the blade in like 60 seconds, set it back down, then it smoked ran very rough then died. I thought maybe I got oil in the cylinder so I let it set, tried that after a day and then a week, would just run rough and die. I have a loaner mower from my brother but it would be great to fix the old one. I was going to tear it down but I'm in the middle of remodeling my home. Any suggestions?
did you flip the mower so the carb was facing up or down? If the carb was facing down, you'll need to inspect the carb and air filter for oil.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE carb up, that's why I don't understand, I've done this many times. None the less, I'll check both the carb and filter when I'm not up to my eyeballs in moulding and trim.
Get a aftermarket recoil or used one . eBay
that's what I was thinking.
I noticed when you showed the spring on the drive cable that the end appeared jagged. This would Indicate to me a possibility that part of the end loop that fits the handle may have broken off. A replacement would be ideal, but you may be able to alter the existing one to work.
I think you're right.
Buy a new cable. Don't use half ass cable.
You and me both, I clean every machine I get in.
thank you papa bits
Take some paint thinner and soak an old clean rag and it should take off the oil stain that's on the mower deck.
I'll have to try that out.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Where I work at paint thinner takes oil off of BBQ sized Freon tanks really good. Might have to scrub it for a couple of minutes. You might see some of the grey paint on your on your rag.
thanks for information .
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Your very welcome.
If you’re going to keep it for yourself and for a long time, then yes, fix the mower.
that makes sense , thank you William Snow.
Could you please help me with my issues, I have a problem with my Honda lawnmower it's working well, it just 2 year old. But I got a problem with both wheels not spinning correctly, I just replaced the gears. But after I put them back. The wheel is not spinning. Could you please help me how to fix it. Thank you so much for your help.
you might have put the gears on backwards. try removing one and turn It around and put it back on.
Thank you so much for your reply my asking, I fixed it and it is working now. My mistake was not tired the wheels tire. Thank you for your help. May you have a wonderful day. And all the best for your family.
LA's Awesome will clean without scrubbing. 😉👍
for the price, it's a great cleaner
Hey Home garage what kind of cleaner were you using to clean off the lawnmower? May I ask what is your name. Instead of me calling you home garage.
you can call me Eric if you want, and I think I was using either Super Clean or a cheap degreaser.
Hey Eric. I might forget your name lol but I will try to remember. Oh ok I actually have a big bottle of degreaser I could put that into a spray bottle and use that right? I thought you were using soap and water. I always get the satisfaction out of Cleaning my equipment. Just like you. Can’t wait for your next video keep up the good work.
I used to use just soap and water, but it turns out, more often than not, I need something a bit stronger, so now I just cut to the chase and grab one of the two
A little bigger brush would be better for this cleaning job.
yes you're right, I've been looking for some.
It is unfortunate it didn't come with a grass bag.
I know but I have one for it, from a different mower, that didn't end so well for it.
Stored outdoors. That's why the cables are rusty.
it definitely looks that way.
I don’t see why you wouldn’t do that kind of maintenance like changing the oil the spark plug and air filter good way to destroy an engine to not change your oil
I know right, but apparently there are those, who do not know it's importance.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I change the oil on all of my equipment twice a year
Use as is unless you have time to refurbish and sell.
that makes sense.
I saw a RUclipsr use denatured alcohol to clean an outboard. I would try that on your oil stains.
that's sounds a good idea.
I'd get a lot of satisfaction out of fixing it, even if it means buying a few parts.
you got that right, thank you Steve D.
I put mine on the curb with a sign saying free,
I appreciate you doing that.
SOS pads may work.
nice, I'll give it a try.
Who said no changing oil is necessary? Bet the person use the mower probably once a month, use it daily he'll see why the maintenance is important, i wonder if his car got a oil change ever, same 4 cycle engine, logic?