Wolff criminal complaint exposes toxic F1/FIA relationship

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  • Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
  • Formula 1’s off-track controversies show no sign of abating in 2024. What’s more, the string of negative headlines has exposed F1’s lack of leadership at a time when it’s under fire on and off track.
    The latest big story is F1 Academy managing director Susie Wolff filing a criminal complaint in France against the FIA.
    With F1 constantly grabbing headlines for all the wrong reasons in 2024, the lack of leadership has been shockingly exposed in recent months.
    That’s not just a criticism of FIA president Mohammed Ben Sulayem. F1 is effectively run by a combination of the FIA as the regulator and commercial rights holder Liberty Media.
    Amid all of this, Formula 1 Group CEO Stefano Domenicali has also been conspicuous by his absence when it comes to tackling F1's various controversies.
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  • @welles28
    @welles28 Месяц назад +846

    As a fan of F1 since the '70s, all I see here is a group of rich, powerful people maneuvering for more money and power. Ron Dennis' quote once again applies: "welcome to the piranha club".

    • @GreedRuinsEverything
      @GreedRuinsEverything Месяц назад +8

      welles put sir

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace Месяц назад +11

      How do you think people become rich and powerful? By accident?

    • @Germanicus-
      @Germanicus- Месяц назад +4

      Sounds just like government.

    • @_Diamond-Dog
      @_Diamond-Dog Месяц назад +8

      As a fan since 1989 all I can say this sport is a farce now

    • @gelmir7322
      @gelmir7322 Месяц назад

      yeah this isn't new at all the
      Either Sulayem is doing something "right" and the "piranhas" do not want any changes in the swamp.
      or Sulayem is just a stand in for another bigger "piranha" (I suspect the rich arab oil-kings) who are planning to take over the sports.

  • @martinlaver4707
    @martinlaver4707 Месяц назад +247

    The result of all this will be, of course, a 20 second time penalty for Alonso.

    • @simondepass4647
      @simondepass4647 Месяц назад +3

      🤣

    • @RACECAR
      @RACECAR Месяц назад +8

      Don't forget a Grid Penalty for Ocon or Gasly, as you do.

    • @jamesdrummond7684
      @jamesdrummond7684 Месяц назад

      the irony is that crown prince douchebag literally incorrectly interfered to get alonso out of a legitimate penalty

    • @shehryarkhan2916
      @shehryarkhan2916 Месяц назад +5

      2 hour penalty for Ocon

    • @AugmentedGravity
      @AugmentedGravity Месяц назад +4

      20 second penalty for Alonso looking at Russel in a mean way.

  • @joe718gt4
    @joe718gt4 Месяц назад +310

    A joint investigation by the FIFA and IOC found no corruption. At all

    • @MarkG11400
      @MarkG11400 Месяц назад +93

      We have investigated ourselves and found ourvelves to be totally innocent of anything ever. - probably the outcome

    • @BDSFormula1
      @BDSFormula1 Месяц назад +12

      ​@@MarkG11400this happens too much

    • @THIS---GUY
      @THIS---GUY Месяц назад +12

      I'll give my ruling after lunch and a round of golf with the lobbyists

    • @F1jones
      @F1jones Месяц назад +6

      As they say, there are no guilty people in jails/prisons, just ask them.

    • @stephenkutrip6226
      @stephenkutrip6226 Месяц назад +4

      lol; would that be an investigation or an exchange of corruption tips?

  • @porcini_boy
    @porcini_boy Месяц назад +232

    How many times have we heard the word transparency of late

    • @jkliao6486
      @jkliao6486 Месяц назад +8

      Few normal people have the knowledge to make an educated comment on these issues anyway. Your so-called transparency would bring nobody good other than satisfying your own desire for controversy.

    • @josesammut9396
      @josesammut9396 Месяц назад

      ​@jkliao6486 oh yeah yeah

    • @josesammut9396
      @josesammut9396 Месяц назад

      😋🤤🤤🤤🤤

    • @ohyeahbaby768
      @ohyeahbaby768 Месяц назад +2

      Far too many.

    • @porcini_boy
      @porcini_boy Месяц назад +5

      ​@@jkliao6486​Not 100% sure what you're getting at there, based from my comment. I don't particularly have any personal desire for controversy as you alluded I have. I was merely making the point that it seems to be the word of the moment within F1. That said, the fact that it is, shows that there is an issue there. Whether you wish to derive pleasure through controversy, as you suggested, is up to the individual but evidently it's highlighting a real issue within the sport.

  • @justamanchimp
    @justamanchimp Месяц назад +250

    It’s all just a power grab, they’re all snakes trying to get up the ladder

    • @piuthemagicman
      @piuthemagicman Месяц назад

      those slithery bastards

    • @tuna5618
      @tuna5618 Месяц назад +2

      Corrupt snakes playing hot potato (without hands?) with corruption allegations. It's all a complete joke.

    • @LiftandCoa
      @LiftandCoa Месяц назад

      ​@@tuna5618Well... yesn't.
      Its a joke because this isnt about Kingdoms and Titles and its not because thats just how politicking works.

    • @nikkipdx4109
      @nikkipdx4109 Месяц назад +1

      agree, it's like trying to tank a stocks reputation to drop the price and grab power

  • @camcambambam5128
    @camcambambam5128 Месяц назад +466

    I’m so sick of the fia, liberty media & f1 stewards

    • @Dre_The_Millennial
      @Dre_The_Millennial Месяц назад +10

      So everybody who's in charge LOL

    • @Car_Fanatic
      @Car_Fanatic Месяц назад

      Liberty media made f1 more mainstream and profitable yes. But ruined the sport by manipulating the FIA and increasing ticket prices. The only good thing since they took over is the f1 tv app

    • @MMAli-rq8kd
      @MMAli-rq8kd Месяц назад +1

      The FIA is far from perfect but Liberty Media and the F1 teams are trying to get rid of any resistance to their franchise like when FIA approved Andretti's to enter F1 while the teams and FOM didn't!
      Every second word coming out of their mouth is "transparency" while they operate in the shadows of incestuous organizations (FOM, Liberty Media, F1 teams) staffed by nepotism.

    • @johnbeer4963
      @johnbeer4963 Месяц назад +27

      And Sky Sports

    • @CatsFerDays
      @CatsFerDays Месяц назад +3

      Go watch a spec series then

  • @ryanwhittle6525
    @ryanwhittle6525 Месяц назад +26

    I find it pretty rich of Zak Brown calling for transparency when he's been sued by more drivers than the rest of the grid combined. Why don't we have a little more transparency into the acquisition of Oscar Piastri? Pato O'ward?
    What about some REAL transparency as to why no Andretti in F1?

    • @kuba_t11
      @kuba_t11 Месяц назад

      piastri never signed with alpine and chose mclaren. there’s nothing more to be transparent about. just poor mismanagement from otmar

  • @wildsnivy7225
    @wildsnivy7225 Месяц назад +166

    Do you guys remember Formula One? The sport where cars go vroom and drive in circles for two hours and everyone cheers? That was nice. I wonder if we'll get to do that again someday

    • @DickTahshon
      @DickTahshon Месяц назад +22

      It died in 2021 when they said f$ck the rules.

    • @THIS---GUY
      @THIS---GUY Месяц назад +13

      more races and more drama - welcome to F1 in 2020s

    • @simondepass4647
      @simondepass4647 Месяц назад

      🤣

    • @F1jones
      @F1jones Месяц назад +29

      @@THIS---GUY I've been watching F1 for over 45 years and it was like this from the start. Anyone remember the FISA/FOCA wars of 1980-82?

    • @woodduck2178
      @woodduck2178 Месяц назад +13

      ​@@DickTahshonF1 has been a shit show in terms of rules ever since the 50s.

  • @sergeykuznetsov8291
    @sergeykuznetsov8291 Месяц назад +9

    How is it permissible for Toto and Susie to hold their positions, given they are husband and wife?

  • @TheLMFAOZ
    @TheLMFAOZ Месяц назад +53

    What would be ironic is the Wolff complaint to backfire at her and they finding out that she actually did leak information to her hubby...

    • @beilultesfom4929
      @beilultesfom4929 Месяц назад +10

      I mean it is really easy for her to do

    • @F1jones
      @F1jones Месяц назад +4

      Likewise, it would be ironic if, after you said that, someone defamed you.

    • @Truth12345
      @Truth12345 Месяц назад +1

      From what I understand from the commend section it happened on multiple occasions.

  • @mmjohns2705
    @mmjohns2705 Месяц назад +25

    I really don’t see how this lady can have this job to begin with since she’s married to someone that’s not allowed to know what she knows, yet marital priveledge would apply in courts. This is a crazy situation with an insane conflict of interest to begin with.

    • @Chris-jt4ux
      @Chris-jt4ux Месяц назад

      Yawn.

    • @JS-ct1uo
      @JS-ct1uo Месяц назад

      Because shes not involved in any f1 decisions and has no access to any information involving f1, so she has no relevant info that Toto doesn't already know.

    • @mmjohns2705
      @mmjohns2705 Месяц назад +2

      @@JS-ct1uo so they invented everything including the legal basis for looking in to her? 🙃

    • @JS-ct1uo
      @JS-ct1uo Месяц назад

      @@mmjohns2705 It seems at the moment they made up the initial complaint at least. The FIA can investigate people but they should at least need some probable cause to investigate especially if they will publicly announce such an investigation (strange they didn't make an announcement concerning the multiple investigations into the FIA president). So unless they reveal some major evidence otherwise, this seems to be just some random baseless accusation they broadcast to the media.
      Also as stated in my earlier comment, she is not involved in any f1 decisions and has no access to any confidential information involving f1. You claim its some insane conflict of interest but have yet to give any reasonable way that she could have acquired any important information. Simply stating she works for FOM is not enough as FOM have rules and systems in place to stop the spread of such information. The only people I've seen complaining about a conflict of interest are random commenters like yourself who probably have no idea about the systems in place and which the 9 other teams all find satisfactory and have raised no concerns in regards to her hiring.

  • @Dre_The_Millennial
    @Dre_The_Millennial Месяц назад +23

    People acting like if F1 ran itself without the FIA the same things that are happening now wouldn't happen LOL.

    • @rasurin
      @rasurin Месяц назад

      Precisely, the teams are full of horrifying dickheads so how would it be any better lmfao

  • @scottthomson9813
    @scottthomson9813 Месяц назад +86

    I've commented before on these people calling for transparency. If it was them, they'd move heaven & earth to keep it quiet. Investigations are not held openly or announced until a result is found. HR or security related issues must, by privacy law, be done without allowing alleged or inappropriate actions of any kind out into the open. If someone is falsely accused then a "transparent" investigation will still destroy their career. If someone is guilty, then a press release can be issued. Transparency is anything but and only creates a media fueled circus. Which of course, is the whole point of this.

    • @InsufficientGravitas
      @InsufficientGravitas Месяц назад +5

      It is completely possible to anonymise information without being forced to keep everything quiet and hope that the people in charge don't just investigate themselves and find nothing wrong.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Месяц назад +1

      Well said!!!

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Месяц назад

      @@InsufficientGravitasno cos Horner was named from day 1 while Fiona Hewitsons name is on purpose never mentioned…. THIS IS A FULL ON PLANNED SLANDER CAMPAIGN payed by a very rich person….not Fiona, someone is paying her big buck to hire the spin doctor she hired…. This is all planned and financed…

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Месяц назад

      @@InsufficientGravitasan independent law firm investigated Fiona’s claims…. It wasn’t an internal investigation. Her claims were false.

    • @MrSnrSquishy
      @MrSnrSquishy Месяц назад +2

      Exactly. Transparency should come AFTER the fact, you cant be transparent otherwise because new information could come to light which could label some transparent information as outright lies.

  • @Hashslingingslasherrr
    @Hashslingingslasherrr Месяц назад +10

    It’s laughable how obvious this is. I’m sure Susie and Toto never discuss work at the dinner table 🙄

  • @SDRaygon
    @SDRaygon Месяц назад +54

    Again, Toto knew something he should have had no way of knowing, and them having an extra floor stay ready for Canada 2022, also proves he knew something that you could not have known unless you had insider information.

    • @JFSR_777
      @JFSR_777 Месяц назад +18

      He also knew about RB overspend before hand. The Wolf's are the ones getting away with it all.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Месяц назад +22

      Exactly. We all know that. It was strike 3. It was the floor in Canada, the RBR budget issue AND now in Vegas 2023 Toto misspoke during a teambosses meeting…he again had confidentional F1 info the other teambosses didn’t have….

    • @menebe
      @menebe Месяц назад

      If the FIA had a clue that susie wolf was leaking stuff. Then why do they stop the Investigation huh?

    • @menebe
      @menebe Месяц назад +2

      ​@@Redlingsteinthe way to prove you conspiracies theories is simple, DON'T STOP THE INVESTIGATION.

    • @jeevangill2041
      @jeevangill2041 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@menebeYh, and the investigation was stopped because susie pulled the misogyny card.

  • @jkliao6486
    @jkliao6486 Месяц назад +31

    I still don't understand what's with the problem with FIA looking into this conflict of interest back in the days. And for people who still don't understand what conflict of interest means, it is a statement of who you are, rather than what you have done.

  • @dlstanf2
    @dlstanf2 Месяц назад +42

    Transparency of what? Accountability to whom?
    These are just baseless buzz words. There's way too many people with a spoon trying to dip out of to small pot.

    • @menebe
      @menebe Месяц назад +3

      Transparency of why the investigation started? Then why the investigation dropped just like that?
      We're talking about a case that even every f1 teams needs to release a joint-statement on their social. So it's just not a buzz word, this case could lead to a bad habit in the FIA.

  • @jamdc2000
    @jamdc2000 Месяц назад +9

    F1 is a sport on Sundays,
    Every other day is a business, and a pretty controversial one

    • @Heist1000
      @Heist1000 Месяц назад +1

      BINGO! Just like football / basketball / soccer / hockey / baseball ... game day is the sport. The other 6 calendar days are business, politics, politicks, and politricks.

    • @jamdc2000
      @jamdc2000 Месяц назад

      @@Heist1000agreed

  • @chrismuz
    @chrismuz Месяц назад +58

    Okay then, Mr & Mrs Wolff, for the sake of total transparency please let the public know, for example
    a) how you knew beforehand of the Red Bull Racing budget overspend?
    b) how exactly Mercedes had a secondary floor stay prepared for the race in Canada in 2022, when the very late notice of this FIA technical directive meant it was impossible for any other team to react in time (thus Mercedes gaining an unfair advantage)??
    Thank you in anticipation.

    • @Chris-jt4ux
      @Chris-jt4ux Месяц назад

      Yawn. What a pathetic comment.

    • @raphwalker9123
      @raphwalker9123 Месяц назад

      But but but they are just sexist because shes a woman and because Hamilton is mixed race!!!!! 😅😅😅

    • @slippyjoeb7948
      @slippyjoeb7948 Месяц назад +17

      I felt the same. I don't trust Sussie and Toto. They're full of narratives.

    • @suckmyballs696
      @suckmyballs696 Месяц назад

      How did Redbull know Ferrari was manipulating its power unit in 2019??

    • @petelius86
      @petelius86 Месяц назад +3

      now you did it 20s penalty for Alonso 😂

  • @dailydrivenmuscle.
    @dailydrivenmuscle. Месяц назад +15

    Some how "The Race" will blame Redbull for everones issues.

    • @mvh996
      @mvh996 Месяц назад

      ya !! im waiting for that video.

  • @mustangecoboosthpp3869
    @mustangecoboosthpp3869 Месяц назад +9

    What are the Wolff's and Mercedes afraid of? Maybe because when changes were made in the past Mercedes was ready to go the minute the changes were published and the other teams had to develop changes after they got the actual change in writing? The Wolff's and Mercedes do not want anyone investigating this because it could end up opening up some very interesting issues. Time for the FIA to give little Suzy Q the boot due to the massive conflict of interest.

    • @norknight9406
      @norknight9406 Месяц назад

      Massive conflict of interest according to 1 boulevard newspaper?

    • @greatscot04
      @greatscot04 Месяц назад +2

      If they didn't want anyone to investigate, they wouldn't have lodged a complaint. They are ASKING for an investigation.

  • @CoryKnudsen701
    @CoryKnudsen701 Месяц назад +6

    Zak crying about transparency when he won’t disclose the terms of Lando’s new contract.

  • @rotnbazturd7569
    @rotnbazturd7569 Месяц назад +8

    FIA and F1/Teams relationship has always been toxic you just didn't hear about it. This isn't shit compared to the 60's thru the 80's.

  • @florisbackx1744
    @florisbackx1744 Месяц назад +5

    F1 demanding 'transparency' is the most ironic thing ever. I bet Andretti would like a bit more of that as well from the teams. And the about the Wolf case, that is truly the most obvious conflit of intrest I've ever seen in the sport. It would be weird if that wouldn't be investigated. The fact that all teams denounced the investigation even before it started tells you how they really feel about transparency. It's a classic omerta where the teams when push comes to shove cover each other to not 'loose position' vs the FAI.

  • @oddjobkia
    @oddjobkia Месяц назад +25

    So you go investigated, the investigation was dropped as no wrong doing was found......... The true classy response would have to said. " I trusted in the systems of the independent FIA legal investigation to prove my innocence ' It is now in the best interest of the sport for me to put this behind me and continue working to make F1 and motor sport the best it can be. .... But no she decided to allow her " you hurt my feelings" attitude win

    • @F1jones
      @F1jones Месяц назад +4

      A SWAT team broke into a woman's house in my city. It was the wrong address. The police investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing. A jury awarded her about $4 million. If only she'd just accepted the word of those investigating themselves.

    • @oddjobkia
      @oddjobkia Месяц назад +7

      @@F1jones What exactly did they do to Suzi Wolf... don't forget they didn't even name her... Also I wouldn't use the Americanas the epitome of a legal system

    • @menebe
      @menebe Месяц назад

      ​@@oddjobkiabro... they started the investigation based on a random newspaper outlet. Then after every f1 teams releasing a joint statement. The FIA dropped the investigation just like that🤷‍♂️

  • @utahnl
    @utahnl Месяц назад +26

    Susie acting so darn insulted over allegations that were not even directed at her, leads me to believe there is some truth to it, but we'll probably never know since the investigation was dropped before completion. This criminal court case she started reeks of trying to send a message.

  • @Heisenberg_747
    @Heisenberg_747 Месяц назад +8

    I told you she was toxic no one believed me.

  • @HootMaRoot
    @HootMaRoot Месяц назад +7

    Most groups like fia and f1/liberty media, have rules in place not to employ people that are financially or emotionally involved with the other members of the opposite group they are in charge of

  • @andreipop1
    @andreipop1 Месяц назад +12

    Fully agree with transpracy, so Toto should reveal who is feading him info the last couple of years. Since he was on top of every new development.

  • @mynameisjeff9124
    @mynameisjeff9124 Месяц назад +6

    Just give Ocon his 5 second penalty and move on

  • @blueguy12345
    @blueguy12345 Месяц назад +58

    Police investigating th epolice found that the police did nothing wrong. Pfff

  • @angel_one1259
    @angel_one1259 Месяц назад +21

    Zack Brown's comment is not counted as he is just a mindless puppet of Wolff.

    • @slippyjoeb7948
      @slippyjoeb7948 Месяц назад

      Agree haha nice one.

    • @eastbaystreet1242
      @eastbaystreet1242 Месяц назад

      Sincere question (I'm not being a smart ass): what does that mean - how is Brown a puppet of Wolf (I am a newbie, not up on all of this history). TIA!

  • @GamezGuru1
    @GamezGuru1 Месяц назад +80

    Surely she should be sueing the media outlets that named her, not the FIA's nameless statement...

    • @g-low6365
      @g-low6365 Месяц назад +8

      she must have names and or proof of who, inside FIA leaked their names behind the nameless statement to the media.

    • @Sai_Saracen
      @Sai_Saracen Месяц назад +17

      @@g-low6365 typical female drama

    • @ESPcrb
      @ESPcrb Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Sai_Saracenfemale... Drama... It's clearly happening to both parties...

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Месяц назад

      Exactly

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Месяц назад +18

      @@g-low6365nameless means no names were mentioned. She herself outed herself in her social media post. And the press? They heard the teambosses talk in the paddock themselves… COS TOTO DID HAVE CONFIDENTIONAL F1 INFO THE OTHER TEAMBOSSES DIDNT HAVE at the Teamboss meeting in Vegas… all teambosses were there. Toto misspoke…. In the paddock the teambosses talked amongst themselves and press and FIA heard them talk. None of the teams made a formal complaint, it probably wasn’t the most important info ever, but IT DID HAPPEN. That’s why the statements said that “they didn’t make a formal mistake”…they didn’t state that it didn’t happen…..

  • @mouseFPV
    @mouseFPV Месяц назад +3

    it bugs me that the "cut" in The Race's logo isnt at 45 degrees. it doesn't line up with my mouse cursor while im watching videos and this causes me mental anguish 😅

  • @CK-ne9um
    @CK-ne9um Месяц назад +2

    Anyone else sick of more drama off the track than on?

  • @kevingrenier1337
    @kevingrenier1337 Месяц назад +54

    They never mentioned her. She threw herself under the bus.

    • @blueguy12345
      @blueguy12345 Месяц назад +14

      Yes cause you know everything that happened more than her and her lawyers right ?

    • @GreedRuinsEverything
      @GreedRuinsEverything Месяц назад +20

      @@blueguy12345 Yes, because anything said by a Wolff is always factual...

    • @renatatostada3318
      @renatatostada3318 Месяц назад +7

      Y'all, did you even watch the video? I mean forget that, this just happened a few months ago. Don't y'all remember how it went down?
      Others mentioned her publicly. No, she did not throw herself under the bus: public entities other than the FIA did.
      You wanna criticize her coming for the FIA? That would make perfect sense. But to say she threw herself under the bus doesn't even require mistrusting the Wolffs--this is simply not what happened

  • @boahneelassmal
    @boahneelassmal Месяц назад +19

    If they are so worried about info from FOM being passed to any team..... maybe don't hire a married couple

    • @RACECAR
      @RACECAR Месяц назад +4

      And yet, they already have not one but two former team principals, had an president who was also a team principal and somehow allow Flavio Bratore to STILL roam the paddock. Not believing anything they say at this point.

    • @lukew6725
      @lukew6725 Месяц назад +2

      I know! It's utterly insane to me that they even allow this in the first place!

  • @bertram-raven
    @bertram-raven Месяц назад +4

    Complaints about Suzie Wolff are not exactly a surprise.

  • @ASkippingRock
    @ASkippingRock Месяц назад +3

    I just want to see more teams and drivers on the grid.

  • @florianbuchi6585
    @florianbuchi6585 Месяц назад +5

    If anybody thinks that there was never any sensitive information shared (even if it was not on purpose) between a wife and her husband, is very naive. If there really are some pieces of information that should not be known by a certain party, maybe, just maybe don't put people that are in a very close relationship together in leading postions at opposite parties. Just saying.....

    • @lysandrourena1610
      @lysandrourena1610 Месяц назад +1

      honestly. i don't think anyone really cares about this besides the ones who are new to watching F1. there was no proof. so just move on. it's getting old at this point.

  • @mustangecoboosthpp3869
    @mustangecoboosthpp3869 Месяц назад +6

    Opps, sounds like this put an end or made it harder for Suzy Wolff to feed her husband Toto Wolff privileged information allowing a performance advantage for Mercedes. Anyone who thinks Suzy was not slipping Toto information I have a bridge you can buy. Suzy is a true Wolff in the hen house situation.

    • @MattM-oe6qs
      @MattM-oe6qs Месяц назад

      Yeah that Australian double DNF is truly indicative of insider info. 😂

  • @NicotineRosberg
    @NicotineRosberg Месяц назад +12

    A lot of bs happens in this sport. The recent being the penalty given to Alonso by Herbert who is compromised. Remember this a sport where sabotage & much more has happened in the past

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Месяц назад +2

      Yeah Herbert, the Merc fanboy gives ofc Alonso penalty on an action on Merc…

  • @bigsmooshflopdong33
    @bigsmooshflopdong33 Месяц назад +7

    f1 would be better without the Wolffs. cant stand either one of them.

    • @Chris-jt4ux
      @Chris-jt4ux Месяц назад

      utter nonsense.

    • @patepulkkinenvtec2403
      @patepulkkinenvtec2403 Месяц назад

      ​@@Chris-jt4uxWell... no.

    • @Chris-jt4ux
      @Chris-jt4ux Месяц назад

      @@patepulkkinenvtec2403 Well.... yes.

    • @patepulkkinenvtec2403
      @patepulkkinenvtec2403 Месяц назад

      ​​@@Chris-jt4uxThere's hardly any single uplifting or positive thing I can think of about either of them, toxic people like them tarnish the reputation of f1.

    • @Chris-jt4ux
      @Chris-jt4ux Месяц назад

      @@patepulkkinenvtec2403 What a pathetic comment.
      Name me one thing they've done wrong.

  • @saber5821
    @saber5821 Месяц назад +3

    Just saying F1 is the only motorsports I am aware of that has drama outside of the sport with the FIA almost as if the people at the top of F1 are the problem not the regulator

  • @Ticklestein
    @Ticklestein Месяц назад +31

    You see, I’m all for more transparency and openness, but I’m just scared all it’ll lead to is you guys taking stuff just enough out of context to make clickbait videos and articles.

    • @F1jones
      @F1jones Месяц назад +1

      Valid information typically causes the opposite to happen; currently there are events that we know occurred of without context, so we get clickbait videos and articles.

    • @MMAli-rq8kd
      @MMAli-rq8kd Месяц назад +1

      Good point. The-Race always manages to stand with monopoly and the establishment (Liberty Media and FOM with the F1 teams) trying to control the regulating body or break away from it to start another American-style franchise.

    • @RACECAR
      @RACECAR Месяц назад +3

      You mean like so many of these other clickbaity ass RUclips channels already do (Insert overused "Its over!!" thumbnail with terrible photoshop for maximum clicks) on a daily basis?

    • @jamesdrummond7684
      @jamesdrummond7684 Месяц назад +1

      the race isn't a particularly salacious channel, you're barking up the wrong tree.

    • @mikespearwood3914
      @mikespearwood3914 Месяц назад

      @@RACECAR You forget words in CAPSLOCK!

  • @sahilthomasbara
    @sahilthomasbara Месяц назад +49

    To be honest, this is rich people beef. I could care less about it until it starts affecting on track racing.

    • @cornishcat11
      @cornishcat11 Месяц назад +17

      if there is ever any on track racing let me know.

    • @Adreno23421
      @Adreno23421 Месяц назад

      100% yes

    • @F1jones
      @F1jones Месяц назад +3

      Newsflash: the racing on the track only affects rich people too.

    • @TheJonesdude
      @TheJonesdude Месяц назад +9

      You could care less? So you do care?

  • @christoduplessis8177
    @christoduplessis8177 Месяц назад +2

    I am sure no information was shared, but come on, this isn't normal, the husband is a shareholder in one of the biggest teams and she is involved in the management of the sport. It just doesn't stick for me. But hey, I know nothing.

  • @MrSniperfox29
    @MrSniperfox29 Месяц назад +14

    The funny thing was, even before the media got involved and said anything, pretty much EVERYBODY guessed it was the Wolff's involved.

  • @AugmentedGravity
    @AugmentedGravity Месяц назад +3

    These calls for so called "Transparency" are just hollow, hysterical and hypocritical buzzwords from people who wouldn't say a word if it was them.

  • @BritishRosie-es3zr
    @BritishRosie-es3zr Месяц назад +2

    A sport where what happens away from the track is way more interesting than anything that happens on the track

  • @beefsuprem0241
    @beefsuprem0241 Месяц назад +4

    Suzie's middle name is nepotism though, lets be honest.
    At least the off track drama gives us something to enjoy rather than on track snoozefest.

  • @ItsapaulGaming
    @ItsapaulGaming Месяц назад +20

    The criminal complaint is a nothingburger. They didn't mention her. Dismissed w/ prejudice, or whatever France's equivolent is.

    • @simondepass4647
      @simondepass4647 Месяц назад +2

      🤣nothingburger

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Месяц назад

      Exactly!

    • @MMAli-rq8kd
      @MMAli-rq8kd Месяц назад +1

      Liberty Media and FOM along with the teams are waging war on the FIA. Media outlets like The-Race are knowingly or unknowingly helping the monopoly of the same people who rejected the Andretti bid to keep everything to themselves.

    • @piuthemagicman
      @piuthemagicman Месяц назад +1

      A true McNothing if I've ever seen one

  • @alias19
    @alias19 Месяц назад +2

    Since it was media accounts that publicly ID’d the Wolff’s and not the FIA, why isn’t she alleging a crime against/suing the media? While it’s ‘illegal’, her choice of pursuing criminal action instead of a civil complaint, a unique option in France, is interesting. Her remedies* are limited: “Public defamation is punishable by a fine of €12,000 .”**
    Well-timed, her complaint just falls within the 3-month period allowed for appeals.
    * I’m not a lawyer/avocat, or even French
    ** from “The official website of the French administration”

  • @MrSniperfox29
    @MrSniperfox29 Месяц назад +8

    You mean Brown managed to talk about something other than Red Bull/Racing Bulls relationship?

  • @aps1s
    @aps1s Месяц назад +2

    Honestly, i dont get where susie want to sue FIA. The FIA statement never mentiones her or toto, that was all from media and team statements. The whole clame comes from the media in itself, so at most she should be suing the media that reported (made up?) this in the first place. What this really looks like is arrogance on susies part: "How dare you question my integrity and suggest me and toto ar having pillow talk on F1 insider topics. this is so misogynistic. I should never be questioned or investigated. I am better than you."

  • @vicTTRS
    @vicTTRS Месяц назад +1

    The trouble was to put Stefano Domenecali at the front, the guy made a terrible job at Ferrari, what were they expecting to do with a even bigger challenge that is manage f1

  • @Dylang01
    @Dylang01 Месяц назад +4

    People calling for transparency seem to only think an investigation is transparent if it returns the result they wanted. That's not transparency.

  • @shinglie
    @shinglie Месяц назад +24

    Should have let michael schumacher make that new racing brand back in the day.
    Bring back v10 and refuelling

    • @blueguy12345
      @blueguy12345 Месяц назад

      Yes cause there was nothing shady happening in the past under Bernie.
      And V10s were unreliable pieces of shit. Sure they sounded good but the show wasn't better for it besides that...

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace Месяц назад

      It's call "vintage racing".

    • @foxbat8895
      @foxbat8895 Месяц назад

      And bring back the cigarette advertisers. There was no need for cost caps and shared technology when they were pumping millions into the sport.

    • @mrsoisauce9017
      @mrsoisauce9017 Месяц назад +3

      1. the turbo hybrid V6 is more relevant to modern vehicle technology, as it is more efficient - something that modern manufacturers highly value. Bringing back the V10, especially without any hybrid assistance, would introduce a lot less efficiency, which would drive away potential manufacturers almost overnight, and without manufacturers willing to produce engines, there can be no F1. So unless you want the sport to die, get used to it
      2. Do you know why refueling was banned? I'll give you a hint: Jos Verstappen, 1994; Kimi Raikkonen, 2009

    • @F1jones
      @F1jones Месяц назад +2

      Refueling produced the worst era of on track racing in F1's history, and no one wants to make V10s, all of which is irrelevant to this topic and would make no difference in how these events were handled. Tired of this ignorance.

  • @BilTheGalacticHero
    @BilTheGalacticHero Месяц назад +1

    It's hard to see this case go anywhere. The FIA didn't publicly name Suzie Wolff and even if they had I can't see that making a difference. Really odd.

  • @rileyfair5
    @rileyfair5 Месяц назад +1

    Actually sounds like the wolffs have to much power. The fact she and toto think they are immuned shows there's something going on the FIA didn't find

  • @segamaxx2258
    @segamaxx2258 Месяц назад +1

    This is just to build up drama for a new Netflix F1 drama show

  • @Th3Sloan
    @Th3Sloan Месяц назад +6

    Liberty media, the FIA and some team principals don't have F1's best interest at heart. Susie Wolff should have never been appointed as managing director of F1A on conflict of interest alone and anyone who thinks information isn't being shared between the Wolffs is unbelievably naive or willfully ignorant.

  • @detectivesquirrel2621
    @detectivesquirrel2621 Месяц назад +7

    Its seriously dodgy and surely a Conflict of Interest when a F1 Team Principal is married to someone is in F1 Management. For Mrs Wolff to start legal action is riddiculous. The French courts should throw it out as it is a situation that does need investigating. But they are French... So no idea what they will do

  • @brightenupcc
    @brightenupcc Месяц назад +1

    So same as Ecclestone/Mosley era then?

  • @DasE30Cuz
    @DasE30Cuz Месяц назад +2

    I don't know Zak, it sure feels like 1984.

    • @CreedM8
      @CreedM8 Месяц назад

      The racing certainly doesn’t 😴

  • @1Three8Fiver
    @1Three8Fiver Месяц назад +3

    People keep mentioning that these "controversies" paint F1 in a bad light? You're kidding right? You know why people tune in to Drive to Survive and watch soap operas and dramas? This just adds to the entertainment. F1 has always been about the rich and powerful manoeuvring themselves and jockeying for position and power. You played into the games by harassing Horner and were useful pawns in the grand scheme. The people who put all this out there and "leak" info to the press/media do so because they know they can USE you and your desire for personal/company prestige. The problem with too much of the F1 commentariat is that they only know how to play the Parrot. They have no in house investigative teams to actually break anything new or to step outside of the internal game.
    Watching the team boss press conferences recently proves this for anyone who doesn't know already. Just point out any journo who will actually ask a left field probing question, there aren't any because they fear the loss of "privileged" access. I mean when Wolff and Brown kept calling for transparency, who actually bothered to ask either, how does their internal process for such matters differ from Red Bulls and what examples do they have to demonstrate it? Hmm, nobody.

  • @colebogaard5692
    @colebogaard5692 Месяц назад +1

    +1 to the editor for the spiderman meme lol

  • @Soebe
    @Soebe Месяц назад +1

    I think zak brown mixes something up if he says its 2024 and not 1984 means total transparency

  • @user-kb8gh5jv9t
    @user-kb8gh5jv9t Месяц назад +1

    F1 is turning into a sad state of affairs…🤦‍♀️

  • @ElGuatequero
    @ElGuatequero Месяц назад +31

    Its funny how the same people reacted just the opposite in Horners case. Without any proof they throw Horner under the bus while maintaining that Susy Wolf is not guilty. I hope Horner start to to sue every one who difamated him too.

    • @blueguy12345
      @blueguy12345 Месяц назад +5

      Since he's not, it could be telling. Maybe Suzy Wolf can actaully defend her case but Hrner can't. Just sayin'

    • @filipecardozo
      @filipecardozo Месяц назад +1

      @@blueguy12345 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @jkliao6486
      @jkliao6486 Месяц назад +2

      I'm glad there are at least sensible people like you still using the internet. It's never about using logic to establish a reasonable conclusion, but rather who you perceive to be the victim in the case even though 99% of the people making a judgement is lacking in basic common sense.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Месяц назад

      Yup

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Месяц назад +6

      @@blueguy12345Horner is cleared by an external investigation.

  • @patepulkkinenvtec2403
    @patepulkkinenvtec2403 Месяц назад +1

    Just when I thought that the Wolffs wouldn't be able to get any more unbearable 😂

  • @Stryker_-qd4nq
    @Stryker_-qd4nq Месяц назад +3

    Is there some kind of bro code that stops rhe race from just throwing the f1 buissness magazine under the bus
    It was their unsubstantiated claim that lead to this

  • @pontus1293
    @pontus1293 Месяц назад +3

    Another video from you when everything is a controversy. New favorite word for this channel since 2021.

  • @spudman2000
    @spudman2000 Месяц назад +1

    The only toxic thing is corporate types like Toto constantly pulling boardroom politics into the sport. Shut up and fix your car mate.

  • @supernpstr
    @supernpstr Месяц назад +1

    What amuses me is that formula1 teams want transparency from the FIA but are they themselves transparent enough? Are they themselves fair enough? They won't allow new teams and increase "fairness" between each other. Constantly protesting each other's successes.
    To me it just seems that each of the parties, FIA, liberty media and formula teams are just in it and look after their own interests.

  • @markwebb8151
    @markwebb8151 Месяц назад +1

    All about money and power

  • @ShallowPocket
    @ShallowPocket Месяц назад +1

    Seems like a ploy (far to common) to get someone ousted). Can we get back to the sport for Peet’s sake

  • @ebutuoyYT
    @ebutuoyYT Месяц назад +11

    To think a financial predator like Bernie Ecclestone and a man of dubious moral character like Max Mosley managed to run the F1 / FIA show with such composure, of course, not necessarily to the complete benefit of us fans or F1 teams, but still better than today’s incompetent clowns.

  • @WDLC1911
    @WDLC1911 Месяц назад

    Why didn’t Wolf fight at the end of 2021???
    Toto… 🤦🏻

  • @DavidJohnson-dc8lu
    @DavidJohnson-dc8lu Месяц назад +4

    Got to say I have not actually watched a single full race of F1 this season, turned off Bahrain, didn't bother with Saudi and slept through the Aus GP, but I am watching more and more videos about F1 on RUclips. Keep up the good work guys! The Fia are corrupt, and when you allow corrupt people to get away with one thing, they don't get better they get worse.

  • @thesighbored
    @thesighbored Месяц назад

    2024 Word of the Year : Transparency

  • @nikkipdx4109
    @nikkipdx4109 Месяц назад

    This seems so obvious and awful, FIA needs to stop this it's hurting the sport

  • @Novacification
    @Novacification Месяц назад +7

    F1 racing in Middle Eastern countries despite the myriad social issues and human rights violations is a much worse look for the "watching world" than these minor controversies.

    • @chrismuz
      @chrismuz Месяц назад

      Yes, and how about some transparency into many of the F1 sponsors, like Aramco, crypto currency or online betting companies, to name just a few?!

    • @sam-nariman6236
      @sam-nariman6236 Месяц назад

      ​@@chrismuz and let me guess, without middle Easterns or Americans, Europeans will pay for such an expensive competition with their 100€ tickets. How about come down of your moral high grounds and try not to ahove your value systems up their arse, they are doing fine.

  • @halflanding1900
    @halflanding1900 Месяц назад +3

    Toto is a billionaire and the mega-rich will sue anything they don’t like. Power games.
    And on the topic of F1-FIA relationships what happened to the alleged RBR harassment victim calling for the FIA to conduct an investigation on Horner??
    Also pls give us a written article about this, I don’t see it at your website. I much prefer a text article I can skim through than having to watch a 10-minute vid.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein Месяц назад

      FIA has zero part in that or say in that. Her only aim is to keep it in the public eye…
      Her false claims have no ground. She is clutching at straws. Its a planned slander campaign, paid by a very wealthy person…cos Fiona now hired a spin doctor… for 10/20k each month on her salary of 65k a year… SOMEONE IS FINANCING THIS SLANDER CAMPAIGN…. it’s all planned. FOLLOW THE MONEY!

  • @MattM-oe6qs
    @MattM-oe6qs Месяц назад

    What are/were the tangible damages???

    • @greatscot04
      @greatscot04 Месяц назад

      That's the question I have. At least here in the US, for defamation to succeed, you have a show a damage to reputation. I'm not sure they can prove that.

  • @teresagambling9823
    @teresagambling9823 Месяц назад

    This sort of crap has been going on for years. We had Balleste and Bernie years ago. We had drivers Senna and Prost. These people are prima donas The fact that you have a husband and wife working for opposite sides, their is always going to be talk.

  • @vmdenis3350
    @vmdenis3350 Месяц назад +2

    Is she like 4'7? Or toto is 7'2?

  • @Rekcoj
    @Rekcoj Месяц назад

    let's be real here, every single major sports regulator or sporting league has/had the reputation of being corrupt. FIFA and its regional counterparts, IOC and its regional counterparts, IAAF, FiA, NFL, NASCAR. Golf, Tennis, and there are dozens more.

  • @didothecat9941
    @didothecat9941 Месяц назад

    This is a story as old as time. Management vs assets. Both think the he business does not exist without them. See the Indy/cart split for what happens when egos get a little too big.

  • @cahesar
    @cahesar Месяц назад

    Still don't know what confidential information has been passed

  • @jaegerman66
    @jaegerman66 Месяц назад

    When the integrity of the sport and the FIA is constantly under scrutiny these days, it shouldn't come as a surprise that they would publicize what should be a routine review into an 'obvious potential conflict of interest' even just for the sake of reassuring onlookers that they do take any threats to the integrity seriously

  • @MuhammadNiz007
    @MuhammadNiz007 Месяц назад

    Here after FIA and MBS announced legal actions against all media

  • @TheEclectic
    @TheEclectic Месяц назад

    It makes no sense that they didn't have a 3rd party investigate Ben Sulyem.

  • @feisty8
    @feisty8 Месяц назад +6

    Both Susie & Sulayum are BAD for Sport and they both need to go away ASAP and let someone else compitent enough take charge.

  • @gomeztotgomez6423
    @gomeztotgomez6423 Месяц назад +1

    justice for Ebrahim Sharif. where is the transparency Zak Brown is talking about? or does it only apply to others?

  • @pavarottiaardvark3431
    @pavarottiaardvark3431 Месяц назад

    It's entirely possible that someone from another team went "We've got a married couple in charge of two separate things. That'll have to be handled properly" and then incompetent/manipulative people in management went mad with the suggestion

  • @martinkoen7431
    @martinkoen7431 Месяц назад

    What jurisdiction?

    • @martinkoen7431
      @martinkoen7431 Месяц назад

      NVM..
      But I'll leave this comment to help you with the algorithm.

  • @Mr16bit
    @Mr16bit Месяц назад

    Good. People need to be held to account.

  • @tomstevens7452
    @tomstevens7452 Месяц назад +1

    FIA should just pull the series from FOM and shut it down. Liberty and the rules makers have comletely ruined this series. Huge cars, limiting entries and horrible track selection.

    • @matthewbarber13
      @matthewbarber13 Месяц назад

      How exactly do they pull the series from FOM? FOM own the commercial rights to F1 the FIA can do absolutely nothing.
      The FIA are the problem here not the other way around.

  • @genotronex8663
    @genotronex8663 Месяц назад

    To be honest this matter doesn’t bother me, what bother me the Liberty media, FIA should put more emphasis on increasing the competition and put better rules, not to create drama outside the race to compensate for lack of competition.
    This circus should come to end