We cleared trash with 15 mages as we had to wait for some more people to join. Talents used: imgur.com/a/WvYYKFL Logs (Hakkar, Jin'do, Mandokir): classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4t8j2XcAf7wTFxKZ/
Ignite transfers the threat to him, assuming he was the first person who crit the mob. They also allow him to get a head start on casting so that he has an early lead.
@@lovesandwich8783 Yes. The player responsible for the first ignite stack is the only thing the game tracks. Future ignites only refresh the original. Once an ignite falls off, then the process repeats on the next ignite. They have enough mages so that they can likely keep the ignite up indefinitely. If the mage who started the ignite dies and the ignite continues to be refreshed, that extra threat goes to the dead mage, which means that threat is then dropped completely.
Worried about being drunk by spiders? There is a specific camera reset you can do. I am not at my computer right now. But my guild made sure we a had it as a macro. It involves reseting the distance and it auto clears all drunkenness.
This was great, but... i loved BFA zandalar music, but come on, ZG music was a classic and we don't have it in retail anymore, should have let the OG on
Most of us went in with ony buff, we lost it over the course of the run, then on hakkar we rebuffed to down him. Afterwards we did Mandokir and Jin'do. Exehn put the bosses out of order so that the Hakkar climax is at the end.
You can skim through vod here to see how we did the run. The segments in the highlight video are not in chronological order. www.twitch.tv/videos/818572299
Mage Tank: -Ice Barrier -Ice Armor (Armor and -20% attack speed) -Mana Shield -With Ignite does not have to cast to keep aggro, which unlocks ~10% dodge. -Ice Block -Blink Warlock Tank: -Demon Armor -Master Demologist (-10% physical damage) -Soul Link (-30% damage) -+15% Stamina -Voidwalker Sacrifice From a pure mitigation perspective, the 10% dodge cancels out the -10% physical damage and the Ice Armor roughly cancels out the Demon Armor plus Soul Link. The Warlock can sacrifice a maximum of three Voidwalkers (sac one, summon another, pull, insta summon a third) for a total of 7500 absorption. This is more than the Mage can muster with Ice Barrier and Mana Shield. On top of that, the Warlock has +15% Stamina. However, the Mage can make the mob run around with Blink, which can also be translated into damage prevented. On mitigation: The advantage goes to Warlocks. But the Warlock can't do anything other than die once the shields are depleted, while the Mage can Blink away or go into Ice Block to save himself. LIPs are not an option, because the CD is blocked by Stoneshield Potions. Yes, Warlocks have Soulstones, but it's not a great life, having to rezz with Soulstone everytime something goes wrong. Ice Block can also be used to ping-pong the boss, which will occupy the boss for a much longer time than the extra health of the Warlock tank. However, this can only be used in situations where you can abuse the Ignite mechanic. On oh-shit buttons: The advantage goes to Mages. The Warlock tank can keep aggro with Searing Pain. This gives the Warlock especially an advantage on trash or on ninja pulls, where the Mages can't get aggro reliably. On bosses, spamming Searing Pain in full mitigation gear while the boss is clobbering you might not reliably hold threat against DD Warlocks, even with the aggro multiplier. Ignite, once set up, reliably keeps the boss glued to the Mage tank, but since it cannot be set up reliably on a specific Mage, you need to run multiple Mage tanks instead of only one Warlock tank. On threat: A tie.
we were classified as "frost" because we skilled deep into frost just to get iceblock. we didn't skill any +frostdmg talents and used fireballs and ignite :D all this dmg from "frost" mages is actually just rolling ignite
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We cleared trash with 15 mages as we had to wait for some more people to join.
Talents used: imgur.com/a/WvYYKFL
Logs (Hakkar, Jin'do, Mandokir): classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4t8j2XcAf7wTFxKZ/
What gear do the tanks wear? Do they stack Stamina?
And the Tank did the most damage on Hakkar...weird one ^^
@@dermafga of course, he gets ignite
This is awesome! These mage only runs are so entertaining
i can hear Kel'Thuzad shivering at the thought of 40 fire mages ravaging Naxx
@@fredriksvard2603 i have a feeling it will
@@fredriksvard2603 people said the cleave would never happen
It is in the lore KT was in the Kirin Tor. Now, they seek revenge forn his treachery
@@fredriksvard2603 imagine not caring about lore
In next series: 40 mages naxxramas speedrun
instructor : raid oom.
When the LITERAL Mages' Guild goes on an expedition to an ancient Troll city!
The famed Army of Magi from Dalaran. Today, Kirin Tor stands tall.
Really cool stuff, man! Well done!
Damn mage tank op
how can the mage tank keep the agro for some seconds?
Ignite transfers the threat to him, assuming he was the first person who crit the mob. They also allow him to get a head start on casting so that he has an early lead.
@@kevintyrrell7409 so even if he stops casting will the ignite procs from other mages give him threat?
@@lovesandwich8783 that is correct as long as the crit debug doesn’t fall off and gets reset by another mage.
@@lovesandwich8783 Yes. The player responsible for the first ignite stack is the only thing the game tracks. Future ignites only refresh the original. Once an ignite falls off, then the process repeats on the next ignite. They have enough mages so that they can likely keep the ignite up indefinitely. If the mage who started the ignite dies and the ignite continues to be refreshed, that extra threat goes to the dead mage, which means that threat is then dropped completely.
Its a horrible mechanic haha sometimes your just looking at yourself flying up on threat even though you've stopped casting 😄
What is the threat addon called?
this pyroblast on the son at hakkar, epic fail :D but we did it anyway :D
#MageMasterClass ♥
50 DKP minus
50 dkp minus
Can warriors do this?
warriors can do anything
Found the bald one
Most likely with flasks yes, they'll still out dps them
how is the mage keeping aggro on an ice block?
If you mean Thekal, we were surprised as well. It seems like a boss specific thing, where he locks in the aggro list from phase 1 in phase 2.
He has fire/frost build, where he starts the ignite.
AQ40 next week? Lmao these are great
The got a tank mage, let's go for it!.
AQ20 probably around Christmas :)
Why not put the name of everyone who participated in the description ? xD
You can see the raid frames lol
I am just wondering, how was the mage tank holding aggro since he had less damage ?
Rolling ignites, he just needs to crit first
@@Exehn Ohhh yea I forgot about that. Thanks :)
if i go 19 mages and 1 rogue i can achive world first too and so on?
Mage tank more valuable than a ret pally
So sad... and so true.
What addon is that to show the HP of the mobs? they broke realmobhealth
Modern TargetFrame
@@Exehn :O ty~!
This is the run all groups try to do: fuck tactics just do damage, and it ruins most runs xD
"Group up... *AND HIT IT TIL IT DIES!*
Awesome....! Nice video guy!
epic 3 hour ZG raid bro
Worried about being drunk by spiders? There is a specific camera reset you can do. I am not at my computer right now. But my guild made sure we a had it as a macro. It involves reseting the distance and it auto clears all drunkenness.
Hello this is officially server ?
Yes
What is tushi doing to pull that much dps while being almost oom all the time from Mana sheild?
All damage is Ignite
classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4t8j2XcAf7wTFxKZ/#fight=9&type=damage-done&source=9&view=events
it's called Rolling Ignite, that's what we planned as tanking tactic
Pretty sure 100 mages could take over the world
Nice content dude! ^)
Aww haha I thought this was gona be my server see it a few times tonight, we did this as well lol
Anywhere one can watch it?
how he doing 1.1k dps with stamina gear??
ignite stacking
why title says 20 mages when u gusy are 15?
We were 15 only for the trash which we cleared while we waited for others to join.
15 mage abs?
This was great, but... i loved BFA zandalar music, but come on, ZG music was a classic and we don't have it in retail anymore, should have let the OG on
this like 1 clear or bunch of videos put together? ony buff was on and off alot
Most of us went in with ony buff, we lost it over the course of the run, then on hakkar we rebuffed to down him. Afterwards we did Mandokir and Jin'do. Exehn put the bosses out of order so that the Hakkar climax is at the end.
Not hard for them to port to and from. Probably had a lock alt parked outside to summon
You can skim through vod here to see how we did the run. The segments in the highlight video are not in chronological order.
www.twitch.tv/videos/818572299
That’s awesome
Nice run duddes
Great job boys!
Amazing
We did it with druids it was pretty fun
I remember reading about this, but I couldn't find anything when I googled it. Do you have a link?
@@AntaresA it was posted on reddit a few weeks (?) ago
Not sure if was uploaded but twas on deviate delight and yeah was a few weeks ago
@@Ninjafalcon12 Do a 40 Druid BWL please :)
good job
The real question is who is a better tank, mage or warlock
Mage Tank:
-Ice Barrier
-Ice Armor (Armor and -20% attack speed)
-Mana Shield
-With Ignite does not have to cast to keep aggro, which unlocks ~10% dodge.
-Ice Block
-Blink
Warlock Tank:
-Demon Armor
-Master Demologist (-10% physical damage)
-Soul Link (-30% damage)
-+15% Stamina
-Voidwalker Sacrifice
From a pure mitigation perspective, the 10% dodge cancels out the -10% physical damage and the Ice Armor roughly cancels out the Demon Armor plus Soul Link. The Warlock can sacrifice a maximum of three Voidwalkers (sac one, summon another, pull, insta summon a third) for a total of 7500 absorption. This is more than the Mage can muster with Ice Barrier and Mana Shield. On top of that, the Warlock has +15% Stamina. However, the Mage can make the mob run around with Blink, which can also be translated into damage prevented.
On mitigation: The advantage goes to Warlocks.
But the Warlock can't do anything other than die once the shields are depleted, while the Mage can Blink away or go into Ice Block to save himself. LIPs are not an option, because the CD is blocked by Stoneshield Potions. Yes, Warlocks have Soulstones, but it's not a great life, having to rezz with Soulstone everytime something goes wrong. Ice Block can also be used to ping-pong the boss, which will occupy the boss for a much longer time than the extra health of the Warlock tank. However, this can only be used in situations where you can abuse the Ignite mechanic.
On oh-shit buttons: The advantage goes to Mages.
The Warlock tank can keep aggro with Searing Pain. This gives the Warlock especially an advantage on trash or on ninja pulls, where the Mages can't get aggro reliably. On bosses, spamming Searing Pain in full mitigation gear while the boss is clobbering you might not reliably hold threat against DD Warlocks, even with the aggro multiplier. Ignite, once set up, reliably keeps the boss glued to the Mage tank, but since it cannot be set up reliably on a specific Mage, you need to run multiple Mage tanks instead of only one Warlock tank.
On threat: A tie.
Lol no warlock for coe?
Also no warrior for tanking.
Mage best class
Crazy mages
This is Good
Good Job Guys!!
Nice bro
cool very nice
There's a reason Garrosh bombed Dalaran.
Lol
Just imagine adding one single moonkin to the team...
You’d have 4 mages with extra crit and a lack luster dps in its place... not worth. A warlock for curse of elements however. Huge.
They could use that tank slot for sure
@@HandoGamez yea a warlock with coe would be huge
1 moonkin would be a dps loss :D
Sick!
If a paladin gets corrupted blood and then bubble hearths.... can they start another "incident"? Lol
Probably not because bubble removes it..
@@Exehn well thats bittersweet lol
Epic!
mage tank ftw
Thats all because whole classic is nerfed game. But anyway was fun to watch gj :)
You guys fucking rock
Thank you
HaXoRz
Ah yes classic; the peaque of world of warcraft
frost mage topping dps vs fires god mode frost
we were classified as "frost" because we skilled deep into frost just to get iceblock. we didn't skill any +frostdmg talents and used fireballs and ignite :D all this dmg from "frost" mages is actually just rolling ignite
gg
In b4 the bald man reacts
i actually did an "/s hello asmonbald" but it's not in the video :(
Mmmmm 20 warlock+pets🤔🤔
cool, i guess
Gg :D
get a shock mount or don't try to record audio kkthx.
Thats complete bullshit. Mobs dropping like a bad habbit. GG
world first lol, classic is a joke
World First got tired of this world first Videos of a 15 year old game...