They have to balance the supply chain with both old (existing) and new (in production) inventory. MacBooks outsell desktops, even more so when factoring the same price points. Even more so, iPads outsell all Macs. The M4 iPad Pro launched last spring just in time for graduating students. While the updated iPad mini launched in time for the holiday shopping season.
Fully agree with you and all the excuses fanboys are giving is beyond annoying. Apple constantly does things like this and it’s NOT acceptable whatsoever. I’m growing really tired of Apple at this point.
@@Rareos I say it’s a mistake, because it makes current stock of new M2 Mac Studios unsellable. Yeah, it’s great hype for the M4 chip in the Mini, iMac, and MacBook Pro. But the Mac Studio line are oversized (and overpriced) paperweights until they get the M4 bump.
@@erickleefeld4883 The vast majority of mac studios are made to order, the ones sitting in stores are already paid for. Stores will sit on some stock until they eventually discount and sell but it's relatively few and irrelevant to Apple. Studio orders will drop significantly but Mini orders will skyrocket, once the Studio is updated in 2025 many people who waited will buy one or finally decide to just get a mini, the result is nice steady (or steadily increasing) revenue stream shared between 2024 and 2025 fiscal year.
Apple likely already has crazy fast M4 variants available for the Mac Pro and the Studio. I think Apple's current strategy is to grow Mac OS marketshare. IMO, Creative Pros are already pretty happy with the performance of the current high-end offerings. Instead Apple is going to be gunning for the mass market, pushing M4 Minis and iMacs over the holidays....then a yet unannounced M4 budget but screaming base iPad in early 2025. While Apple dominates in Phones, tablets and wearables, at a 10% Computer OS market share world-wide....there is a lot of room in that space to grow. It wouldn't surprise me if Apple has some interesting ads coming for the Holiday buying season...directly targeting Windows.
You’re right, it would be cool. Unfortunately the wires would be too long and there wouldn’t be enough of them for that to work. In theory you could use multiple thunderbolt ports to get a _lot_ of bandwidth between them, but from the software’s point of view you’d be running a “cluster”. This is common in the supercomputing industry - clustering is _kinda_ what separates a supercomputer from a stack of servers (not really, but kinda) - but it’s essentially unheard of in the consumer space because it makes everything _way_ more complicated and most people won’t take advantage of the capability anyway.
@ So did I. There are “over 10,000 signals” connecting the two M2 Maxes together in an M2 Ultra. You can’t make a port with that many contacts and still have the internal wiring work out.
I've got an M1 Max Studio and just got the base model M4 Mini. The Studio still has more grunt. I'm using them simultaneously with side-by-side-by-side displays. Total of 8TB external storage. The Studio mostly has music production apps running and the Mini is strictly web browsing and security cameras. Basically, the Mini took some of the workload off of the Studio. This is probably more than good enough until M5+ Studio is released. That doesn't mean an M4 Studio won't be tempting. :)
I thinking about the same configuration or mac studio m2 max 64gb ram 1tb storage or..... lots of ideas. Are you happy with your decision, is it really noisy under heavy load or normal usage. I want to use it for software development.
@ order still being processed. I guess custom orders take a bit to ship. Ordered 11/8, status now is “preparing to ship” on 11/13. I wish I’d went with 10 gb Ethernet also. But I probably will never use it.
@@cobratom666 I really want to do the same thing. Highly considering pulling the trigger on an M2 Max 64gb ram and 1tb storage. I'm coming from a 2015 27" iMac intel so any upgrade will be miles ahead of what I'm working with now. I just don't know if it's a mistake getting the M2 Max now or if i should wait for the M4 Max studio next year
@@shreddykrueger9171 In my country M2 Max 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD costs 3375$, Mac mini M4 Pro 64GB RAM 1TB costs 3125$, M2 Max 32GB RAM, 512 SSD costs 2375$, but you can get M1 Max 32 GB RAM, 512 SSD for 1625$. So definetly I will not pay 3375$ for mac studio M2 Max so I try to find such mac on sale for max 2500$ if not I will wait for Max Studio M4 Max becasue probably price will be the same but performance a lot better
@@shreddykrueger9171 you are better of just getting the m4 mini and just the ram add the and storage to it. but if the M2 max is on sale get that! spend your money wisely these companies are about the cash grab
@@andresbarriga5305 I don't. Mostly simple video and image editing without heavy effects. My M1 MacBook Air is holing on, but struggling more and more with some higher resolution videos. Mac Mini looks to be perfect!
There are more techincal reviews comparing performance of Lightroom, Photoshop, Final Cut, DaVinchi Resolve on different Macs. Even current M2 Max is much faster than M4 Pro for photography. Also with M2 Max you can have up to 96GB or RAM. With M2 Ultra - up to 192GB. It'd better to wait until new Studio with M4 Max / Ultra is released. For machine learing / AI applications M4 Max would be better also. Just find more techincal reviews for your use case.
By the time you add the cost of a Studio Display to both, the actual % cost difference for a full setup is a lot less. So, Studio still makes more sense for GPU intensive workflow.
Why does nobody mention that the Mac Mini doesn't support display scaling? I guess it's because not many people know about this issue. The display is either super small or super large, or you have to use it in low resolution... If you can deal with this limitation, go ahead and buy a Mac Mini.
Wow M4 base chip is only 4% slower than the M2 ultra chip That is crazy. To think that Apple put this chip in the iPad Pro and Mac mini and made those device thinner while M2 Ultra chip is only available in a very big desktops.
Editing 4k footage including hard to decode codecs and adding a fair bit of color correction/effects, what would be better? I can get a great deal on a 32gb mac studio m2 max, as in a few hundred less than an m4 pro mac mini
Apple would sell a lot more units if they were more reasonable with their upgrade component prices. You'd have more adoption of Apple products as well.
Agreed , upgrades cost a premium with apple , ive considered some apple products with base specs that needed up speccing , and by the time you get the specs you want , the whole cost of the device has doubled , and in some cases even tripled which just makes it unviable.
@@madhuson-o9u Righttt, that's why Apple has all those endless combination of options to choose from. Surely they love massively inflating their production complexity just to appease to 10% of users lol.
i love apple. but the way they treat memory is criminal. Memory both RAM and Hard drives is dirt cheap. they are raping us. I agree that if they were to stop this nonsense more people would go mac and the just the shear numbers would make up for the profits they think they are making off of their memory. It should be law that we the consumers can upgrade the RAM and Hard drives if we want too. Now that they soildered it in... only the most tech and skilled can do it. i still have macbook pro 2012.. maxed the RAM out put a 2 TB SSD in it. It runs awesome.
@@livedreamsg You didn't read my comment. They have configs for people who think they need it. Those people subsidize the cost of the base model. 90% of people will never use more than 256gb or more than 16gb ram. You are projecting your needs to rest of the population.
Highly considering pulling the trigger on an Mac Studio M2 Max 64gb ram and 1tb storage for video editing. I'm coming from a 2015 27" iMac intel so any upgrade will be miles ahead of what I'm working with now. I just don't know if it's a mistake getting the M2 Max now or if i should wait for the M4 Max studio next year. I really can't wait that long
Same thoughts here. I kinda wonder if the price point of the studio will stay the same when they get the new chips. Also I'd probably just get e refurbished one from apple and then that's not possible.
I think waiting for m4 studio will give more performance to price ratio. Even I am considering M4 Ultra Studio maxes out, so that it is major upgrade and also time proof for my video editing workflow for lot longer years to come
Like with cars, if you start adding options - go to the higher trim level. Once you’ve got the Mini at an M4 Pro, 48GB RAM and 1TB- you’re almost at the base Studio price. Wait til the Spring for the M4 Studio.
Indeed, I am worried about the thermals not keeping up with all of that M4 Pro power in such a small case. I have the budget for the M4 Pro and would like to use it for DaVinci Resolve 4K@60fps video editing and cannot decide to go for the M4 base model with 24GB/512GB or the M4 Pro model with 24GB/512GB. The M4 Pro model has the Thunderbolt 5 but I am bit afraid that the fan noise of the M4 Pro model is going to drive me insane.
We should at least acknowledge that core for core, the GPU performance per core is much higher than the M2 Ultra. If the M4 Pro had a 76 core GPU, its score would be close to 420,000, which is astronomical.
Great video. I think its worth to upgrade from my Mac Studio M1 Max to The new M4 pro Mini. Do you think the extra 2 cores are worthy to upgrade? For heavy music production..
Better to wait until Mac Studio with M4 Max is released. It depends on your use case, but Mac Mini is for home users and Mac Studio is for professionals. Those are completely different computers.
@@FirstLast-nr6gf well im considering the smaller size as well and portability for travel. Right now, my Studio M1 Max can handle my work fine (sometimes CPU goes full but that can be solved by "Freezing" some Tracks in Logic Pro). I assume the M4 Pro will do a much better job. The cooling system mainly im not sure about though.
I've had a base model Mac Studio M2 Max since day one. Despite all the "numbers" about the CPU, it's still a very fast and powerful computer. I have to admit, though, that the Mac Mini M4, both the M4 and the M4 Pro, are a pretty impressive deal.
I just want to know which model and setup to get so I have the biggest bang for my buck. For me, more RAM and good processor speed is key. I can always add external storage.
difference between similar spec (64GB ram, 4TB SSD, 10Gbe network) Mac Mini and Mac Studio is only about 100 $, for that price you get just slightly different I/O
Yeah if you really wanna avoid fan noise: go for Mac Studio! And I agree on waiting for Mac Studio M4 Max if possible. If you wanna wait for M4 Max but need a Mac Studio so bad now. ASAP. Then you can buy one today and use it for some months, buy M4 Max, clone the old to the new, erase the M2 when you know that the clone (M4) is perfect and then sell your M2. It will cost a bit more but you will have a great Mac while waiting for an even greater!
I pulled the trigger on Mac Mini Pro M4 64gb, 2TB, and more cores. My Macbook Pro M1 Max has been great but the Mac Mini M4 base model I picked up from Best Buy outperforms my M1. It's too good a deal to pass up.
Hi. Saw something that didn't make sense. The single core % increase at around the 5:30 marker; Relative to the M4 is ( 3920 - 2777 ) / 3920 = 0.2916 (29.16%) or relative to the M2 is ( 3920 - 2777 ) / 2777= 0.4116 (41.16%). Your chart shows a 34% increase. Just have a look, maybe the chart values are not correct if the % is?
It’s funny because on the Geekbench site, the M4 Pro 14 core is in the 3800 range running at 4500 MHz. The M4 Pro 12 core is 3320, running at 3911 Hz. He shows them as identical.
Hello Greg. Thank you for the great video! I would appreciate your advice. I'm considering buying a Mac desktop for gaming, specifically for X-Plane 12. I've been an Apple user since 1988 and find PCs unintuitive. Should I go for the Mac Studio M2 Max with a more powerful GPU or the Mac Mini Pro M4? I don’t mind the price difference as long as one offers significantly better performance for gaming, specifically xPlane 12.
Do you think really its worth to choosing m4 max instead of m4 pro ? all i see on the videos its all about seconds for rendering etc. (i am talking for macbook pro)
Depends on what you use your laptop for, if you're saving seconds or a minute here or there it might not sound like a lot, but if you use your laptop everyday for those workloads, it adds up.
@@GregsGadgets i am software developer. i am going to use it with my ipad air m2. i read PDF's on it, compiling code. But, also i am creating courses for udemy and coursera. so i am going to use it for video editing either. if there is going to be only few minutes difference, i think it doesn't worth of paying more. before i forget, i am going to use it for simple 2D animations creation.
@@kern776 You will find the Pro more than sufficient for many many years. Potentially upgrading the Ram might help with multitasking, but otherwise the Max is not necessary for that workflow, since none of it will heavily tax the Gpu.
Everyone keeps talking about an M4 Ultra chip… it isn’t coming. There is no fusion bridge on the M4 Max so no stitching two together. If they release a new Studio it will be a full internal redesign with a new graphics coprocessor or simply a pro/max chip spec and redesigned storage module like that of the mini.
Like most RUclipsrs, this guy thinks everyone is a video producer. I'm a photographer, so my concern is how it works with Lightroom Classic and occasionally Photoshop. Honestly, I did not see this video as even remotely helpful. The next Studio will be amazing, like every new Apple product is. But coming from an iMac 27" Intel-based computer, I am sure the Mac Mini M4 Pro will be an outstanding improvement and more than enough for me.
Hahaha that is funny. I just need my computer to be able to drive three Samsung 49 inch wide screen monitors for my stock trading rig. The new Mac mini with M4 looks like it will be able to do that. I don't need anything fancy. Base model will work perfect and the trading rig gets nothing else on it but the trading platform. So awesome. The same set up back in the 2010 would have cost you $2500 now only $700 what's not to love !!!
Ditto. My late 2015 Imac 27" was high end (at the time) with 24GB ram and i7 running at 4 GHz. Sadly, 10 years later, PS now requires machine upgrade. And of course, Mac OS upgrades stopped several generations ago. Yet, the screen is still great! Today, pulling the trigger on an M4 mac Pro with 48 GB ram and 1 TB storage. With the new apple studio display, total cost is about what I paid 10 years ago for the 27" iMac. Not a bad run. My lament: wish I could have linked my older 27" iMac with the new M4 Mac Mini. No doubt others share similar sentiments...and why Apple didn't allow configuration.
FANS: The fans in the M1 studio were mostly pretty quiet, but they tended to produce an annoying harmonic that you could hear in a quiet room, which Apple did fix when they made the M2 Studio. The M2 Studio is much quieter. The fan noise does become more noticeable though when doing renders and things that require a lot of processing power, but it's pretty tolerable. Nothing like the windtunnel that was my G4 tower, or even my old Intel Mac Pro.
I think many, if not all, of your ratios comparing how much better one system is vs another are just plain wrong. For example at 7:22, you have a chart that the M2 Ultra 76 core metal GPU score is 221,854 and the M4 Pro 20 core score is 110,556 - more than twice as good but you call it only 66.9% better -- how are you coming up with these ratio's??? Maybe math isn't your forte?? Anyway, think you need to have someone check your math. This is not the only article you've written that has math issues - your reveiw of the M4 Mac Mini has similar issues. Thanks for doing all this work to compare and inform us, but please do a better job at giving us the correct information. Thanks...
I am confused between Mac Studio M2 Max having 12c/30c and Mac mini M4 Pro having 14c/20c both with 64GB Ram and 1TB HDD. My workload is 150+ browser tabs opened simultaneously on different browsers daily, 20 small reels to 3-4 medium video edits a week and 1 or 2 blender edits a month. Attached to a single 5k monitor, no memory card or ethernet required. Both costs exactly INR 2,49,900 here in INDIA. I fear mac mini m4 pro with 14/20 will get louder fans and might thermal throttle. Please, suggest to me what's best? Thank you in Advance.
Placing the power button on the bottom really isn't not a "design stateement", that is a "design mistake"... I'd love to know under what cicumstances some silver-tongued designer successfully argued for that.
I don't think reviewers are really arguing that it wasn't a mistake, just that it's really a NONISSUE. The Mini is so ridiculously light, that the 2 times per year you actually need to hard reset it you can easily lift it to reach the button.
Just to inform viewers, the % calculations in this video is totally crazy. For instance at 7:26 the M2 Ultra GPU (76 core) is almost exactly twice as fast as M4 Pro (20 core) according to the numbers, that is a 100% increase, or more accurately 100.7 %. How do you even calculate to get that to be a 66.9 % increase?
Can you use the Mac Studio SD Card slot as a internal storage upgrade? If I get Mac Studio with 512GB SSD, can I just insert a 1TB SD Card , would that be similar to having a internal 1.5TB SSD Mac Studio? or is this just the same as having a 512GB SSD Mac Studio with an external SSD enclosure. I ask because my problem with external SSD enclosures, even fast TB4 external drives, are not considered internal storage and certain programs (AAA Games) will only install in the internal storage. Or anyone knows a work around to this install only-in-the-internal-storage problem?
I think the way it was rolled out was on purpose. There are still the new M4 Ultra / Hidra that might show up in the highest tier Mac Studio and Mac Pro, similar to what we saw in the M2 line up. So Who knows, perhaps the current M4 Pro are binned and there might be even a higher CPU/GPU count Pro coming ? Either way, the fact that they released the current lineup shows that they want to sell them and once people went nuts over them they will release even higher rated machines and CPUs. So in this case, it would make sense why they release a Mac Mini with killer specs.
I’m getting one of these 2 machines as my first computer as an adult. I’m going to use it for editing videos for a RUclips channel. Thank you for making this video. My price range is $2400 to $2800. I have been studiying for a month and am now between these 2 machines.
@@redesignedlife777 the 2 he showed. M4 pro Mac mini or M2 Max Mac Studio. I would upgrade both to 64 gb. But the m4 mini I would get 1tb of storage as well as upgrade to 14 core cpu and 20 core gpu.
The new Mac Mini is great for students, semi-pro video editors, and people who want to utilize Apple Intelligence for work related task at a very reasonable price. For those who want to edit 8k video and want fast rendering you should wait for the Mac Studio M4 Ultra.
its really hard to justify the Max and Ultra for most workloads these days. I'm sure the M4 Ultra will be amazing in performance, but most professionals (outside of some hardcore video editing or maybe rendering) really don't need all that CPU. I'd much prefer more GPU cores over more CPU cores. But unless you are in an industry that can use those, the only real reason to go with more GPU is gaming... and...well...hmm, there just aren't any mac games I want.... I'm looking at swapping out my M1 Max MacBookPro, and possibly going for the Mac Mini M4 Pro or Mac Studio M4 Max as I'm tired of having a laptop taking up my desk when its always plugged in and I use an ultrawide monitor anyways... and then swapping my seldom used MacBook Air M1 for a MacBook Air M4 when they come out and using it as my only mobile device.
It's not CPU what we need for video editing and 3D modeling, is GPU power. The M4 pro it's just comparable to a RTX 3060 TI (Geekbench score), which is pretty underpowered for professional video editing these days.
In the Spring of 2025, I will be buying my first Apple "M" series processor system. If buying today, I would get either a used M-2 "mac mini" Pro model, or a M-1 Ultra "Mac Studio" model. For myself, the only thing the smaller new M-4 "mac mini" is good for, is being a laptop replacement because, just by adding a small keyboard and screen, you now have a full portable computer system (smile ... smile).
Actuallu the Power Button is on the TOP the Cooling slots should be in the TOP so Apple designed it UPSIDE DOWN. Besides ounce it turned on it should star on for it whole life.
11:04. The M3 was NOT a "full generation." It's mostly just an over clocked M2. So upgrading from the M2 Max/Ultra is not upgrading two "full generations." It's more upgrading one "full" generation.
You failed to mention about memory bandwidth. Mac mini 120GB/s, the studio is 400GB/s for the Max, 800GB/s Ultra. This is important for memory intensive applications. I say wait for the new Mac studio. Don’t buy the hype, and buy the Mac NUC (err Mini) if you need memory performance.
Good review- thanks! I'm glad you mentioned the sound factor, as for music production and recording, of course that becomes a pretty significant factor. Interesting to see what comes next!
Hey Greg, your deep dive on the M4 Mac mini vs. Mac Studio was fantastic! You really get into the details that help viewers make an informed choice - especially important with all the hype around these devices. Curious if you’re open to brand partnerships that let you keep up the great content with less hassle. Let me know!
I have multiple Apple devices watch, air pods, phone, iPad (2), TV, and a Macbook Pro, however, IMO the $600 base Mac Mini 4 does not deserve the hype. It only has 256GB of storage which is what you would find in a 2005 computer. You can easily buy a MiniPC from multiple manufacturers with a comparable Ryzen 9 8945HS CPU, 1TB of storage and 32GB of memory for $650. Many MiniPC's support Occulink, have a display port, a 2.5GB LAN, plus a few USB 3.2 ports.
With regard to pricing the M4 Max Studio next year, nobody seems to consider that when it is released, it is likely to be subject to tariffs of 45% or higher as an import per the incoming President's plans.
I was actually saving up for the Mac Studio, but I decided to wait on the M4 Mac Mini Pro. I upgraded the processor to the max and the SSD to 1tb. I’m very happy with my choice. I use it for everyday use and to play WoW.
Calling Thunderbolt 4 a weakness against TB5 will hardly no serious technical equipment available to utilize is a stretch 😂. 40gb speed transfers is nothing to sneeze at over say 10gb which is still the primary market of regular people unlike us Tech Heads.
I'm very happy with my base M2 Studio. I don't do video processing, I don't do heavy workloads.. it's overkill for my use case. I'd love to get a low end mini to use as an email server as my ISP's idea of mail filtering is a joke. However, they won't give me a static IP so that's out. BTW - want to hear a fan run constantly? I had OCLP /Sequoia on my late 2015 MBP and the fan was running constantly. After the recent OLCP issues with 15.1, I just went back to Monterey.
I have an M2 Studio right now and really tempted by the mini... but ultimately it would be a waste of money, the Studio is still great and is still a skookum machine. Heck I still have my M1Pro MBP - I'm waiting to see if the M5 MBP comes with a tandem OLED screen before I update it.
Just bought it. Using it with my existing dual monitor setup of 24 inches 1440p and 1080p res. The text is blurry and unable to scale. I didnt know it has such a big problem with scaling and i would need to buy an expensive monitor as well to use it. Windows does it flawlessly with any monitor thrown at it. Regret buying it :(
Hi, JP viewer here!! The Japanese AI voice audio is pretty shit makes me feel like I'm listening to those annying bot spammers who constantly call you on your phone ruining your day. Is this a builtin feature from RUclips or are you uploading it additionally? If so I highly recommend using subtitles for the default translation because its beyond unpleasant!! Cheers!!
yo! great and refreshing video. I really need your help. I am a pro retoucher and I use Photoshop. thats it. my skill set is fully photoshop and other than that its google chrome. What would you recommend to a heavy photoshop user? like when i say heavy I mean like smart objects and opening 25 2/3GB files in one go. batching, exporting. Working with at times 10k px files. Up until now Ive had a hackintosh with 128GB 2666 Mhz DDR4 Ram , 3.8 GBz 8 Core Intel Core i7, and a AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8 GB. It has been my workhorse and I ride it hard. But id love to get on one of these new M4 chips and wondering if my current set up can be outshined by these little joke looking mac minis or even a Mac studio. How would you compare my current 128GB ram to whats available on a mac mini even if I spec'd up. I know rams work differently and I shouldnt compare like for like. If anyone else had any thoughts id love some help! E
Apple's outrageous upgrade costs keeps me on Windows/Linux. I may buy the base mini just to reacquaint myself with MAC considering I haven't messed with the OS since the early 2000s. But man, I'd love to have one to do more than basic tasks, but $400 for mediocre memory or SSD upgrade is insane. Just like back in the day of Intel MACs, I can build a windows PC for a fraction of the cost if the Apple had the same specs.
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I don’t understand why Apple doesn’t update the Mac Studio at the same time as all the other macs.
Sadly they have to wait for the ultra chip to be ready, I think they should just update the lower end with the max when it comes out
They have to balance the supply chain with both old (existing) and new (in production) inventory. MacBooks outsell desktops, even more so when factoring the same price points.
Even more so, iPads outsell all Macs. The M4 iPad Pro launched last spring just in time for graduating students. While the updated iPad mini launched in time for the holiday shopping season.
@@GregsGadgetsSee, that would be a sensible solution in the meantime!
thats because the are coming out with a new one next year thats m4
Fully agree with you and all the excuses fanboys are giving is beyond annoying. Apple constantly does things like this and it’s NOT acceptable whatsoever. I’m growing really tired of Apple at this point.
Apple’s mistake here is not simultaneously coming out with M4 Max/Ultra chips for the Mac Studio.
that's a strategy not a mistake.
@@Rareos I say it’s a mistake, because it makes current stock of new M2 Mac Studios unsellable. Yeah, it’s great hype for the M4 chip in the Mini, iMac, and MacBook Pro. But the Mac Studio line are oversized (and overpriced) paperweights until they get the M4 bump.
@@erickleefeld4883it’s not oversized when you compare it to the 2012 mac pros…..
@@erickleefeld4883 The vast majority of mac studios are made to order, the ones sitting in stores are already paid for. Stores will sit on some stock until they eventually discount and sell but it's relatively few and irrelevant to Apple. Studio orders will drop significantly but Mini orders will skyrocket, once the Studio is updated in 2025 many people who waited will buy one or finally decide to just get a mini, the result is nice steady (or steadily increasing) revenue stream shared between 2024 and 2025 fiscal year.
Apple likely already has crazy fast M4 variants available for the Mac Pro and the Studio. I think Apple's current strategy is to grow Mac OS marketshare. IMO, Creative Pros are already pretty happy with the performance of the current high-end offerings. Instead Apple is going to be gunning for the mass market, pushing M4 Minis and iMacs over the holidays....then a yet unannounced M4 budget but screaming base iPad in early 2025. While Apple dominates in Phones, tablets and wearables, at a 10% Computer OS market share world-wide....there is a lot of room in that space to grow. It wouldn't surprise me if Apple has some interesting ads coming for the Holiday buying season...directly targeting Windows.
It would actually be super cool if you could just stack 2 minis and they operated together as one system with twice the memory and cores and ports.
You’re right, it would be cool. Unfortunately the wires would be too long and there wouldn’t be enough of them for that to work.
In theory you could use multiple thunderbolt ports to get a _lot_ of bandwidth between them, but from the software’s point of view you’d be running a “cluster”. This is common in the supercomputing industry - clustering is _kinda_ what separates a supercomputer from a stack of servers (not really, but kinda) - but it’s essentially unheard of in the consumer space because it makes everything _way_ more complicated and most people won’t take advantage of the capability anyway.
@ I meant that they had a bus connection header for expansion on the top and bottom that just snapped together
@ So did I. There are “over 10,000 signals” connecting the two M2 Maxes together in an M2 Ultra. You can’t make a port with that many contacts and still have the internal wiring work out.
@ obviously it wouldn’t use the same interface as what’s inside the chip.
In my opinion the studio advantage is in having more ports and usb-a
but in fairness to the mini, it has thunderbolt 5 which you can attach a USB hub to distribute it's power to multiple ports, including USB A.
@ hopefully the studio comes with the ultra chip
I've got an M1 Max Studio and just got the base model M4 Mini. The Studio still has more grunt. I'm using them simultaneously with side-by-side-by-side displays. Total of 8TB external storage. The Studio mostly has music production apps running and the Mini is strictly web browsing and security cameras. Basically, the Mini took some of the workload off of the Studio. This is probably more than good enough until M5+ Studio is released. That doesn't mean an M4 Studio won't be tempting. :)
I went a bit hard in the paint and got the Mini M4 Pro...64gb ram...1tb storage....and Applecare. May Steve have mercy on my soul.
I thinking about the same configuration or mac studio m2 max 64gb ram 1tb storage or..... lots of ideas. Are you happy with your decision, is it really noisy under heavy load or normal usage. I want to use it for software development.
@ order still being processed. I guess custom orders take a bit to ship. Ordered 11/8, status now is “preparing to ship” on 11/13. I wish I’d went with 10 gb Ethernet also. But I probably will never use it.
@@cobratom666 I really want to do the same thing. Highly considering pulling the trigger on an M2 Max 64gb ram and 1tb storage. I'm coming from a 2015 27" iMac intel so any upgrade will be miles ahead of what I'm working with now. I just don't know if it's a mistake getting the M2 Max now or if i should wait for the M4 Max studio next year
@@shreddykrueger9171 In my country M2 Max 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD costs 3375$, Mac mini M4 Pro 64GB RAM 1TB costs 3125$, M2 Max 32GB RAM, 512 SSD costs 2375$, but you can get M1 Max 32 GB RAM, 512 SSD for 1625$. So definetly I will not pay 3375$ for mac studio M2 Max so I try to find such mac on sale for max 2500$ if not I will wait for Max Studio M4 Max becasue probably price will be the same but performance a lot better
@@shreddykrueger9171 you are better of just getting the m4 mini and just the ram add the and storage to it. but if the M2 max is on sale get that! spend your money wisely these companies are about the cash grab
Literally the comparison I was waiting for! Was looking to get a Mac Studio, but now I've changed my mind. Thanks!
If you plan to make serious graphic and video work, I prompt you to get the studio.
@@andresbarriga5305 I don't. Mostly simple video and image editing without heavy effects. My M1 MacBook Air is holing on, but struggling more and more with some higher resolution videos. Mac Mini looks to be perfect!
There are more techincal reviews comparing performance of Lightroom, Photoshop, Final Cut, DaVinchi Resolve on different Macs. Even current M2 Max is much faster than M4 Pro for photography. Also with M2 Max you can have up to 96GB or RAM. With M2 Ultra - up to 192GB. It'd better to wait until new Studio with M4 Max / Ultra is released. For machine learing / AI applications M4 Max would be better also. Just find more techincal reviews for your use case.
By the time you add the cost of a Studio Display to both, the actual % cost difference for a full setup is a lot less. So, Studio still makes more sense for GPU intensive workflow.
Why does nobody mention that the Mac Mini doesn't support display scaling? I guess it's because not many people know about this issue. The display is either super small or super large, or you have to use it in low resolution... If you can deal with this limitation, go ahead and buy a Mac Mini.
What display are you using ? I have no issues with my m4 pro and 4k Dell monitor when it comes to scaling
I have the Mac Studio for may recording studio. Love it. It's the reason I bought Mac mini M4 for my office. I got the 10 core / 16GB / 512GB version.
Wow
M4 base chip is only 4% slower than the M2 ultra chip
That is crazy.
To think that Apple put this chip in the iPad Pro and Mac mini and made those device thinner while M2 Ultra chip is only available in a very big desktops.
THIS lol
I've heard it thermal throttles, is the button on the bottom not a design choice to say flip it and run it up side down to keep it cool?
Recommendations for what monitor to get with the Mac mini? I do a lot of Lightroom photo editing, so I need one that has good clear color.
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Editing 4k footage including hard to decode codecs and adding a fair bit of color correction/effects, what would be better? I can get a great deal on a 32gb mac studio m2 max, as in a few hundred less than an m4 pro mac mini
Apple would sell a lot more units if they were more reasonable with their upgrade component prices. You'd have more adoption of Apple products as well.
Agreed , upgrades cost a premium with apple , ive considered some apple products with base specs that needed up speccing , and by the time you get the specs you want , the whole cost of the device has doubled , and in some cases even tripled which just makes it unviable.
90% of people will never update any component of their computer. This is just wrong.
@@madhuson-o9u Righttt, that's why Apple has all those endless combination of options to choose from. Surely they love massively inflating their production complexity just to appease to 10% of users lol.
i love apple. but the way they treat memory is criminal. Memory both RAM and Hard drives is dirt cheap. they are raping us. I agree that if they were to stop this nonsense more people would go mac and the just the shear numbers would make up for the profits they think they are making off of their memory. It should be law that we the consumers can upgrade the RAM and Hard drives if we want too. Now that they soildered it in... only the most tech and skilled can do it. i still have macbook pro 2012.. maxed the RAM out put a 2 TB SSD in it. It runs awesome.
@@livedreamsg You didn't read my comment. They have configs for people who think they need it. Those people subsidize the cost of the base model. 90% of people will never use more than 256gb or more than 16gb ram. You are projecting your needs to rest of the population.
with all the extra cores on the studio and the GPU cores what is going to be better for video work?
Highly considering pulling the trigger on an Mac Studio M2 Max 64gb ram and 1tb storage for video editing. I'm coming from a 2015 27" iMac intel so any upgrade will be miles ahead of what I'm working with now. I just don't know if it's a mistake getting the M2 Max now or if i should wait for the M4 Max studio next year. I really can't wait that long
Same thoughts here. I kinda wonder if the price point of the studio will stay the same when they get the new chips. Also I'd probably just get e refurbished one from apple and then that's not possible.
I think waiting for m4 studio will give more performance to price ratio. Even I am considering M4 Ultra Studio maxes out, so that it is major upgrade and also time proof for my video editing workflow for lot longer years to come
Like with cars, if you start adding options - go to the higher trim level. Once you’ve got the Mini at an M4 Pro, 48GB RAM and 1TB- you’re almost at the base Studio price. Wait til the Spring for the M4 Studio.
The mini is still smaller and more powerful in many workloads
@@chidorirasenganzCorrect. Until the Studio gets an M4 Max/Ultra.
@ the performance difference yes but it’s still a bulkier machine
@@chidorirasenganzYeah no argument there. That being said I was used to Power Mac G5/Mac Pro towers, so the Studio is petite by my standards 😆
Indeed, I am worried about the thermals not keeping up with all of that M4 Pro power in such a small case. I have the budget for the M4 Pro and would like to use it for DaVinci Resolve 4K@60fps video editing and cannot decide to go for the M4 base model with 24GB/512GB or the M4 Pro model with 24GB/512GB. The M4 Pro model has the Thunderbolt 5 but I am bit afraid that the fan noise of the M4 Pro model is going to drive me insane.
We should at least acknowledge that core for core, the GPU performance per core is much higher than the M2 Ultra. If the M4 Pro had a 76 core GPU, its score would be close to 420,000, which is astronomical.
I’m getting the Mac mini base and looking forward to it!
Does the M4 Mac mini have Thunderbolt 5 as well as the M4 Pro version?
No only the pro version have TB 5.
Yes, but only one port.
@@dorucreo not even only one port TB5 in standard M4 mac mini
@@hasansahin7965 aw ok
Great video. I think its worth to upgrade from my Mac Studio M1 Max to The new M4 pro Mini.
Do you think the extra 2 cores are worthy to upgrade? For heavy music production..
Better to wait until Mac Studio with M4 Max is released. It depends on your use case, but Mac Mini is for home users and Mac Studio is for professionals. Those are completely different computers.
@@FirstLast-nr6gf well im considering the smaller size as well and portability for travel. Right now, my Studio M1 Max can handle my work fine (sometimes CPU goes full but that can be solved by "Freezing" some Tracks in Logic Pro). I assume the M4 Pro will do a much better job. The cooling system mainly im not sure about though.
Apple may start to discount the current Studio in order to get rid of stock before offering the new M4 Max (or Ultra) Studio in Spring 2025.
I've had a base model Mac Studio M2 Max since day one. Despite all the "numbers" about the CPU, it's still a very fast and powerful computer. I have to admit, though, that the Mac Mini M4, both the M4 and the M4 Pro, are a pretty impressive deal.
Should I get an m4 pro mini with 1tb ram or get the Mac Studio M2 Max refurbished for the same price?
get M2Max Studio. I have both of them. but m4pro mini is hotter and noisy. still have bluetooth issue on mini.
I just want to know which model and setup to get so I have the biggest bang for my buck. For me, more RAM and good processor speed is key. I can always add external storage.
difference between similar spec (64GB ram, 4TB SSD, 10Gbe network) Mac Mini and Mac Studio is only about 100 $, for that price you get just slightly different I/O
Yeah if you really wanna avoid fan noise: go for Mac Studio!
And I agree on waiting for Mac Studio M4 Max if possible.
If you wanna wait for M4 Max but need a Mac Studio so bad now. ASAP. Then you can buy one today and use it for some months, buy M4 Max, clone the old to the new, erase the M2 when you know that the clone (M4) is perfect and then sell your M2. It will cost a bit more but you will have a great Mac while waiting for an even greater!
can't get the M4 Pro Mac mini link to work...
I guess an M4 Ultra will come in the studio and blow us all away
I pulled the trigger on Mac Mini Pro M4 64gb, 2TB, and more cores. My Macbook Pro M1 Max has been great but the Mac Mini M4 base model I picked up from Best Buy outperforms my M1. It's too good a deal to pass up.
Hi. Saw something that didn't make sense. The single core % increase at around the 5:30 marker; Relative to the M4 is ( 3920 - 2777 ) / 3920 = 0.2916 (29.16%) or relative to the M2 is ( 3920 - 2777 ) / 2777= 0.4116 (41.16%). Your chart shows a 34% increase. Just have a look, maybe the chart values are not correct if the % is?
It’s funny because on the Geekbench site, the M4 Pro 14 core is in the 3800 range running at 4500 MHz. The M4 Pro 12 core is 3320, running at 3911 Hz.
He shows them as identical.
Hello Greg. Thank you for the great video! I would appreciate your advice. I'm considering buying a Mac desktop for gaming, specifically for X-Plane 12. I've been an Apple user since 1988 and find PCs unintuitive. Should I go for the Mac Studio M2 Max with a more powerful GPU or the Mac Mini Pro M4? I don’t mind the price difference as long as one offers significantly better performance for gaming, specifically xPlane 12.
Do you think really its worth to choosing m4 max instead of m4 pro ? all i see on the videos its all about seconds for rendering etc. (i am talking for macbook pro)
What kind of work do you do on your machine?
Depends on what you use your laptop for, if you're saving seconds or a minute here or there it might not sound like a lot, but if you use your laptop everyday for those workloads, it adds up.
@@GregsGadgets i am software developer. i am going to use it with my ipad air m2. i read PDF's on it, compiling code. But, also i am creating courses for udemy and coursera. so i am going to use it for video editing either. if there is going to be only few minutes difference, i think it doesn't worth of paying more. before i forget, i am going to use it for simple 2D animations creation.
@@kern776 You will find the Pro more than sufficient for many many years. Potentially upgrading the Ram might help with multitasking, but otherwise the Max is not necessary for that workflow, since none of it will heavily tax the Gpu.
@@ghost-user559 i am using VSCODE - vmvare fusion pro (virtuallation) - and some edit programs.
Everyone keeps talking about an M4 Ultra chip… it isn’t coming.
There is no fusion bridge on the M4 Max so no stitching two together.
If they release a new Studio it will be a full internal redesign with a new graphics coprocessor or simply a pro/max chip spec and redesigned storage module like that of the mini.
im waiting for m4 max macstudio
I waiting for the M4 Mac Studio Ultra
@@peteherrera1502 Who buys nowadays the Sudio M2 Max and Ultra is stupid, so I also wait for the M4 Ultra next year. Like you two.
4% performance loss with HALF of the cores is actually nuts
Super excited to get my hands on an M4 Studio in a few months.
Like most RUclipsrs, this guy thinks everyone is a video producer. I'm a photographer, so my concern is how it works with Lightroom Classic and occasionally Photoshop. Honestly, I did not see this video as even remotely helpful. The next Studio will be amazing, like every new Apple product is. But coming from an iMac 27" Intel-based computer, I am sure the Mac Mini M4 Pro will be an outstanding improvement and more than enough for me.
Hahaha that is funny. I just need my computer to be able to drive three Samsung 49 inch wide screen monitors for my stock trading rig. The new Mac mini with M4 looks like it will be able to do that. I don't need anything fancy. Base model will work perfect and the trading rig gets nothing else on it but the trading platform. So awesome. The same set up back in the 2010 would have cost you $2500 now only $700 what's not to love !!!
I just need my Apple Mac to watch porn, so the base model will be sufficient.
Ditto. My late 2015 Imac 27" was high end (at the time) with 24GB ram and i7 running at 4 GHz. Sadly, 10 years later, PS now requires machine upgrade. And of course, Mac OS upgrades stopped several generations ago. Yet, the screen is still great! Today, pulling the trigger on an M4 mac Pro with 48 GB ram and 1 TB storage. With the new apple studio display, total cost is about what I paid 10 years ago for the 27" iMac. Not a bad run. My lament: wish I could have linked my older 27" iMac with the new M4 Mac Mini. No doubt others share similar sentiments...and why Apple didn't allow configuration.
FANS: The fans in the M1 studio were mostly pretty quiet, but they tended to produce an annoying harmonic that you could hear in a quiet room, which Apple did fix when they made the M2 Studio. The M2 Studio is much quieter. The fan noise does become more noticeable though when doing renders and things that require a lot of processing power, but it's pretty tolerable. Nothing like the windtunnel that was my G4 tower, or even my old Intel Mac Pro.
I think many, if not all, of your ratios comparing how much better one system is vs another are just plain wrong. For example at 7:22, you have a chart that the M2 Ultra 76 core metal GPU score is 221,854 and the M4 Pro 20 core score is 110,556 - more than twice as good but you call it only 66.9% better -- how are you coming up with these ratio's??? Maybe math isn't your forte?? Anyway, think you need to have someone check your math. This is not the only article you've written that has math issues - your reveiw of the M4 Mac Mini has similar issues. Thanks for doing all this work to compare and inform us, but please do a better job at giving us the correct information. Thanks...
what do people think about video play back in davinci resolve ?
Mac mini m4 may end up as the 1080ti for mac minis.. great value for its price to performance
I am confused between Mac Studio M2 Max having 12c/30c and Mac mini M4 Pro having 14c/20c both with 64GB Ram and 1TB HDD.
My workload is 150+ browser tabs opened simultaneously on different browsers daily, 20 small reels to 3-4 medium video edits a week and 1 or 2 blender edits a month. Attached to a single 5k monitor, no memory card or ethernet required. Both costs exactly INR 2,49,900 here in INDIA.
I fear mac mini m4 pro with 14/20 will get louder fans and might thermal throttle.
Please, suggest to me what's best? Thank you in Advance.
Placing the power button on the bottom really isn't not a "design stateement", that is a "design mistake"... I'd love to know under what cicumstances some silver-tongued designer successfully argued for that.
I don't think reviewers are really arguing that it wasn't a mistake, just that it's really a NONISSUE. The Mini is so ridiculously light, that the 2 times per year you actually need to hard reset it you can easily lift it to reach the button.
I just need blender benchmarks. Seems everyone has ignored those on this Mac mini. Not sure why but the scale and cpu are getting the limelight.
Just to inform viewers, the % calculations in this video is totally crazy. For instance at 7:26 the M2 Ultra GPU (76 core) is almost exactly twice as fast as M4 Pro (20 core) according to the numbers, that is a 100% increase, or more accurately 100.7 %. How do you even calculate to get that to be a 66.9 % increase?
Excellent video. Answered all my questions on which one to buy (Mac Mini M4).
I will probably get the M4 Max Studio when it releases. 40 GPU / 48GB / 1TB.
if you want to work with some LLMs, than forget the mini and go for STUDIO.
typo in the slide at 7:03
The real question What Machine does real world work like CAD or Video the Best.
Can you use the Mac Studio SD Card slot as a internal storage upgrade? If I get Mac Studio with 512GB SSD, can I just insert a 1TB SD Card , would that be similar to having a internal 1.5TB SSD Mac Studio? or is this just the same as having a 512GB SSD Mac Studio with an external SSD enclosure. I ask because my problem with external SSD enclosures, even fast TB4 external drives, are not considered internal storage and certain programs (AAA Games) will only install in the internal storage. Or anyone knows a work around to this install only-in-the-internal-storage problem?
I think the way it was rolled out was on purpose. There are still the new M4 Ultra / Hidra that might show up in the highest tier Mac Studio and Mac Pro, similar to what we saw in the M2 line up. So Who knows, perhaps the current M4 Pro are binned and there might be even a higher CPU/GPU count Pro coming ? Either way, the fact that they released the current lineup shows that they want to sell them and once people went nuts over them they will release even higher rated machines and CPUs. So in this case, it would make sense why they release a Mac Mini with killer specs.
I would like to see a comparison when they are built up to the same price
if you want the Mac Studio. Just wait for the M4 version of that when it comes out.
Great breakdown as always!
Would say for today yes M4 Apple Mac mini Pro if you had to purchase it now. My hope the next Mac Studio, and Mac Pro come with a M5 SOC.
Don't forget the power button placement...
I’m getting one of these 2 machines as my first computer as an adult. I’m going to use it for editing videos for a RUclips channel. Thank you for making this video. My price range is $2400 to $2800. I have been studiying for a month and am now between these 2 machines.
I think the mini is a great choice
You didnt tell us what machines you were considering
@@redesignedlife777 the 2 he showed. M4 pro Mac mini or M2 Max Mac Studio. I would upgrade both to 64 gb. But the m4 mini I would get 1tb of storage as well as upgrade to 14 core cpu and 20 core gpu.
I would get an m4 studio but I’m not waiting, I’m getting something this month.
Impressive! The M4 Max and Ultra Max Studios are coming out in March, 2025 and not June.
All the rumors are pointing to June (a little before or after the WWDC that happens at the beginning of June each year)
The new Mac Mini is great for students, semi-pro video editors, and people who want to utilize Apple Intelligence for work related task at a very reasonable price. For those who want to edit 8k video and want fast rendering you should wait for the Mac Studio M4 Ultra.
its really hard to justify the Max and Ultra for most workloads these days. I'm sure the M4 Ultra will be amazing in performance, but most professionals (outside of some hardcore video editing or maybe rendering) really don't need all that CPU. I'd much prefer more GPU cores over more CPU cores. But unless you are in an industry that can use those, the only real reason to go with more GPU is gaming... and...well...hmm, there just aren't any mac games I want....
I'm looking at swapping out my M1 Max MacBookPro, and possibly going for the Mac Mini M4 Pro or Mac Studio M4 Max as I'm tired of having a laptop taking up my desk when its always plugged in and I use an ultrawide monitor anyways... and then swapping my seldom used MacBook Air M1 for a MacBook Air M4 when they come out and using it as my only mobile device.
And how do you know what professionals need?
It's not CPU what we need for video editing and 3D modeling, is GPU power. The M4 pro it's just comparable to a RTX 3060 TI (Geekbench score), which is pretty underpowered for professional video editing these days.
I’m surprised apple didn’t add the m4 in the studio at the same time as the mini. Really odd decision.
In the Spring of 2025, I will be buying my first Apple "M" series processor system. If buying today, I would get either a used M-2 "mac mini" Pro model, or a M-1 Ultra "Mac Studio" model. For myself, the only thing the smaller new M-4 "mac mini" is good for, is being a laptop replacement because, just by adding a small keyboard and screen, you now have a full portable computer system (smile ... smile).
maybe leave the graphics on screen for 10 seconds so we dont have to keep pausing the video?
Actuallu the Power Button is on the TOP the Cooling slots should be in the TOP so Apple designed it UPSIDE DOWN. Besides ounce it turned on it should star on for it whole life.
I waited for the M4 Mini Pro and… bought the heavily discounted M1 Max Studio for a little less :)
The mini with m4 pro is the current “mini pro”. Anyway it is worth to buy the base modells and upgrade after every 2-3 generations.
11:04. The M3 was NOT a "full generation." It's mostly just an over clocked M2. So upgrading from the M2 Max/Ultra is not upgrading two "full generations." It's more upgrading one "full" generation.
Thanks for the advice!
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M4 Mac Studio will probably release in April or May during Tax Season
You failed to mention about memory bandwidth. Mac mini 120GB/s, the studio is 400GB/s for the Max, 800GB/s Ultra. This is important for memory intensive applications.
I say wait for the new Mac studio. Don’t buy the hype, and buy the Mac NUC (err Mini) if you need memory performance.
I gonna wait until the next update for the Mac Studio.
Good review- thanks!
I'm glad you mentioned the sound factor, as for music production and recording, of course that becomes a pretty significant factor.
Interesting to see what comes next!
Forget it. We benchmarked the Mac mini in Davinci Reaolve vs the Mac Studio and the Mac mini is sooo much slower. Like half the speed.
Which configurations are you comparing though?
This video absolutely deserved a sub! Thank you for creating :)
Hey Greg, your deep dive on the M4 Mac mini vs. Mac Studio was fantastic! You really get into the details that help viewers make an informed choice - especially important with all the hype around these devices. Curious if you’re open to brand partnerships that let you keep up the great content with less hassle. Let me know!
I have multiple Apple devices watch, air pods, phone, iPad (2), TV, and a Macbook Pro, however, IMO the $600 base Mac Mini 4 does not deserve the hype. It only has 256GB of storage which is what you would find in a 2005 computer. You can easily buy a MiniPC from multiple manufacturers with a comparable Ryzen 9 8945HS CPU, 1TB of storage and 32GB of memory for $650. Many MiniPC's support Occulink, have a display port, a 2.5GB LAN, plus a few USB 3.2 ports.
Easy decision....photographers and videographers get the Mac Studio. Web surfers get the Mac Mini.
With regard to pricing the M4 Max Studio next year, nobody seems to consider that when it is released, it is likely to be subject to tariffs of 45% or higher as an import per the incoming President's plans.
3:50 Damn, now I wanna have this coat!!! 😂😂😂 You can sell ice to Eskimos, man!
I was actually saving up for the Mac Studio, but I decided to wait on the M4 Mac Mini Pro. I upgraded the processor to the max and the SSD to 1tb. I’m very happy with my choice. I use it for everyday use and to play WoW.
It's a killer value, good choice!
this is exactly my senario.
How is the WoW play? And how much ram did you get?
@davidallen3158, May I know your machine's full configuration along with RAM, does the fan spin a lot?
How do you makes videos like it
The M4 pro also has a GPU with raytraced cores. It will destroy the M2 ultra archaic cores in blender and raytraced games.
Calling Thunderbolt 4 a weakness against TB5 will hardly no serious technical equipment available to utilize is a stretch 😂.
40gb speed transfers is nothing to sneeze at over say 10gb which is still the primary market of regular people unlike us Tech Heads.
I'm very happy with my base M2 Studio. I don't do video processing, I don't do heavy workloads.. it's overkill for my use case. I'd love to get a low end mini to use as an email server as my ISP's idea of mail filtering is a joke. However, they won't give me a static IP so that's out. BTW - want to hear a fan run constantly? I had OCLP /Sequoia on my late 2015 MBP and the fan was running constantly. After the recent OLCP issues with 15.1, I just went back to Monterey.
I have an M2 Studio right now and really tempted by the mini... but ultimately it would be a waste of money, the Studio is still great and is still a skookum machine. Heck I still have my M1Pro MBP - I'm waiting to see if the M5 MBP comes with a tandem OLED screen before I update it.
When the studio gets updated that will be the machine to get
If you need that kind of power and can afford it yes,but for most people the Mac mini is plenty powerful enough and more affordable.
@@davidjacobs6244That’s the thing. If you really need it, you’re not going to give up your M2 Studio until the M4 Studio comes out.
Just bought it. Using it with my existing dual monitor setup of 24 inches 1440p and 1080p res. The text is blurry and unable to scale. I didnt know it has such a big problem with scaling and i would need to buy an expensive monitor as well to use it. Windows does it flawlessly with any monitor thrown at it. Regret buying it :(
Sell it.
@@mikefiftynine That's the plan
@@bunty672744 sounds good!
Hi, JP viewer here!!
The Japanese AI voice audio is pretty shit makes me feel like I'm listening to those annying bot spammers who constantly call you on your phone ruining your day.
Is this a builtin feature from RUclips or are you uploading it additionally? If so I highly recommend using subtitles for the default translation because its beyond unpleasant!!
Cheers!!
yo! great and refreshing video. I really need your help. I am a pro retoucher and I use Photoshop. thats it. my skill set is fully photoshop and other than that its google chrome.
What would you recommend to a heavy photoshop user? like when i say heavy I mean like smart objects and opening 25 2/3GB files in one go. batching, exporting. Working with at times 10k px files. Up until now Ive had a hackintosh with 128GB 2666 Mhz DDR4 Ram , 3.8 GBz 8 Core Intel Core i7, and a AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8 GB. It has been my workhorse and I ride it hard. But id love to get on one of these new M4 chips and wondering if my current set up can be outshined by these little joke looking mac minis or even a Mac studio. How would you compare my current 128GB ram to whats available on a mac mini even if I spec'd up. I know rams work differently and I shouldnt compare like for like. If anyone else had any thoughts id love some help!
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The new M4 Mac Studio is right around the corner, right?
The new mcstudio will be smaller than the original one but still bigger than the mini. With max and ultra chips
Apple's outrageous upgrade costs keeps me on Windows/Linux. I may buy the base mini just to reacquaint myself with MAC considering I haven't messed with the OS since the early 2000s. But man, I'd love to have one to do more than basic tasks, but $400 for mediocre memory or SSD upgrade is insane. Just like back in the day of Intel MACs, I can build a windows PC for a fraction of the cost if the Apple had the same specs.
Can;t wait for the M4 studio. Super excited about it
3:49 SQUIRREL!
Really appreciate this video. I’m gonna wait!!
M4 Max Studio is what I need. We all need more GPU in these Macs.
At this point pro's are just waiting for the M4 Studio, another 5-7 months to wait...