Ducati Scrambler oil and filter change - Ducati Scrambler project ep.5
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024
- I believe the manual is wrong, the drain plug should be 21N-m
On this Episode I'm going to change the oil and the oil filter on the 2015 Ducati Scrambler classic, I will also remove the exhaust to access the mesh filter behind it. I show step to step how to do it according to the ducati maintenance manual. This also apply to all air cooled ducati with an 803cc engine like the monster 796, the sizes might change but the steps are basically the same.
We are one step closer to make the Scrambler in tip top mechanical shape.
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I believe the manual is wrong too, the drain plug should be 21N-m.
In the manual it states 40Nm but then in the engine rebuild part of the manual it states CORRECT torque of 20Nm People take care - love the vids :)
Albe's Adv hello, I'll change the oil in a few days, is really necessary to clean the plastic filter? the secondary one, It's will be the 3rd oil change..
I was looking the user manual, it says just in the first change, clean the plastic filter... is that important?
thanks
Look how dirty is the oil you are pulling out, if it's sludgy, you might want to clean the screen filter, if the oil is nice and fluid, you could skip it.
@@AlbesADV excellent, thanks!
Albe's Adv last question, hoy you change the date service? I didn't find it in the user manual
thanks
This was a great instructional video and I really appreciate you showing how to remove and clean the mesh filter.
Likewise, thank you for giving all the tightening torque information.
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I started watching your vlogs when I was considering buying a Ducati Scrambler Sixty2, your vlogs have boosted my self confidence and I've splashed out and bought one knowing that there's nothing to be afraid of doing annual routine maintenance myself, I now own an immaculate super low mileage Sixty2 model, thanks very much.
Nice man, congrats on your new bike 👍
Thanks for all the Scrambler videos! I just bought a 2020 and you have been a great help.
Hi can you make a video on how to remove the battery and charge it inside/ store for the winter ❄️. And how to winterize the Ducati
I'll look into it and see what I can do.
Excellent video. I followed step by step, easy as Sunday morning.
Hi Albe! I'm one of them that thigten the drain plug screw too much following the manual. Now I'm thinking to replace it and in that occasion I'll change the oil and I'll clean the mesh filter.
I was wondering if the torque value for the mesh filter itself and for the outer screw are correct this time (42Nm). In conclusion if I'm not wrong we should have:
Oil Filter 11Nm, oil drain plug 20Nm, Mesh filter and outer screw 42Nm. Last question: What is the right insert to screw out the mesh filter? I didn't see it in the video.
Thank you very much for this and for the other videos, very usefull! Cheers from Italy!
Ciao Lorenzo, the torque specs seem to be correct, the mesh filter uses a 14mm allen key fur both, the plug and the filter itself.
I hope this helps 😀👍
Thanks again. I like how everything is always nice and clean
Hi Just a note (but an important one). The sump nut should tighten to LESS than 40NM (I know the manual says 140nm)...one suggestion is to tighten to 20NM. At 40nm the nut will break ....guess how I found out.
Yes, I was going according to the manual, then I saw the crush washer starting to deform and I stopped. I pinned a comment with a more sensible torque value.
I really appreciate you reaching out and thanks for watching 😀👍
Very good description off oil change simple no messing chers
Great video my friend! Good job! Only one doubt: Are you sure 31 ft/lb torque for drain plug 5 mm? O.o Thanks!
That is what the maintenance manual calls for, but is wrong, look thru the comments, fortunately somebody brought up the correct torque number.
Hi Albe, thanks for sharing your videos
Life saver! Thank you for the detailed instructions
Thank you for the support man 😀👍
So a metric bolt on a imperial nut ha!....those backyard mechanics are impressive.
+ripmax333 yup, that's the basics, anybody should be able to figure that out as soon as they start tinkering with nuts and bolts. Kind of amusing.
Hello friend, do you know how to program the keys?
Thank!!!
I changed my oil twice, following your videos... even air filter!
I do not, sorry bud
Cool video! Thanks!
What about next theme "How to winterize the Scrambler Ducati?"
That's a great idea, thank you. I didn't really think about it cause I ride it all year round 😀👍
@@AlbesADV Riders that live in warmer climates are lucky to be able to ride year-round. While riders that put their motorcycle away for winter or ride in cooler weather may need to consider some preparation with an oil change for winterizing their Scrambler.
@@andy_cowperwood very true
How long does it take for the oil to darken?
Please let me know if this bike hotter than almost all other bikes like they said? I have own a Honda Cb400 super four, a watercooled 4 cylinders engine, the heat is very insane but I somehow can handle it. I dont know if the heat from the ducati is much much more intense. Thanks.
+Tung Nguyen the heat of the scrambler is not that intense. Have fun.
Hey albe, nice videos….I have a question for u.
My icon just got the 600 miles n I want to do the job myself I just got confused when u take the mesh filter out…idk if u r using and alllen key or just the breaker…could U confirm that please
I have an Allen key attached to tge braker bar 👍
@@AlbesADV my man I’m done with the job thank u for your videos they r very helpful
You are welcome man 😀👍
Do you have anything about changing bent break and shifter pedals? 😅
If it’s not too badly bent, you can try heating it up and bending it back. I don’t have a video about it but it’s not too hard. The brake is held in place by a single nut behind the foot peg bracket, watch out for the spring, then disconnect the pin that holds the master cylinder plunger and you are done. Shift pedal even easier, same nut, watch out for the o-rings, then disconnect the shift rod where it’s more convenient. I hope this helps.
Thank you
Thanks ! Good video. .. How you measure the foot pounds at the finish?
With a torque wrench, remember the drain plug is 21Nm, 31Lbs/ft will deform the crush washer.
Hi! I have a Ducati sixty2 and I would like to know how to bleed the brakes. Great videos!!!!
Look among my videos, there should be one on how to bleed the brakes, any bike will do, it's the same procedure for most bikes
Hi bro! Here again. How much oil liters do you need for a correct level? I have a Scrambler too. In the user manual says 0.9 gallons (3.4 liters), however in my case with less than 3 liters I already get the appropriate level. Thanks in advance for your comments! Best!!
Hi Raul, I remember using 3.5 qts on mine, which is around 3.3 liters.
I hope this helps 😀👍
@@AlbesADV thanks for your response. It is rare that I need less than 3 liters to get the right level. Perhaps someone more can give us his opinion. Regards!
Raúl Martínez Martín hey you may have figured this out by now, but it could be that the bike needs to be turned on and ran for a minute. The extra .4 litres will probably need to flow thru the oil filter. Hopefully you figured it out tho!
@@zeronomon I did that. In fact, today after 1000 millas the level follow in the same level :D (my scrambler is unique)..
Hi, I Just changed the oil on my scrambler and i filled 2, 4l ran it 30 seconds and filled 0,6l moore total of 3liters or 3,17 quarts.
Hi Albe,
What are you doing about service lights. Have you found a way to rest them?
Not yet, so far the only option that I know of are, let it be or have the dealer reset it, sorry
Nice video. I have a quick question . Is it a ducati standard to apply RTV sealant to the oil drain plug. I have a 2016 full throttle and after the last oil change at a ducati dealer, I found the sealant around it which I thought unusual. When I asked them they said they didnt apply the sealant. Your input will be helpful. Thanks in advance
No, as long as you use a new crush washer there should be no need for RTV sealant. But it won't hurt anything either, it's just a matter of tidiness for me.
Thank you. I was looking into scrambler oil change procedure videos to confirm and ran into your video. Very informative.
Mine had a bit of the same RTV. Might be from the factory
Hello. Are there any seals/gaskets around the bolts that’s are needed to be replaced?
There is a crush washer
I loved the way he said "which I did"
Ciao Alberto
Per caso conosci la coppia di serraggio dell'ammortizzatore? O sai dove posso trovare una tabella con tutti i dati per le varie parti? Ruote, Manubrio ecc
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Can you tell me what color the starting oil is from the manufacturer? I just had it serviced, but I get a very strong feeling they didn't do anything at my local service center...
Hi, I believe the starting oil is yellowish/golden 👍
This is helpful
Well done sir. Thanks
Thank you for watching
Hello! I wanna ask if in hot weather like 35 degree celcious, can you handle the heat of the engine? Will it to the point that you cannot ride? I wanna buy the Scrambler but really scrare of the heat from the engine. Some guys said they have to get off the bike because its too hot. Tks.
+Tung Nguyen this past summer in Southern California we had days around 40 degrees Celsius and the heat off the engine wasn't a problem, since there is no radiator, but mostly there is no radiator fan pumping hot air out, the bike is good to ride in any condition.
Here on French Riviera in sumer, have to put my right leg far from bike at red light ! if not you burn your right bowl !
Albe how is your experience with scrambler so far thinking about buying one 2019?
The scrambler is a fun bike, looks pretty cool and it’s very versatile, it can do it all but non of it very well, but as I said it’s a very fun bike to ride.
@@AlbesADV thanks
Good video. Thanks.
Thank you John
What is the mesh filter socket? You used a breaker bar but did not show or specify what you stuck in there to loosen the mesh filter is it the same as the nut, an Allen 14mm?
That was awhile ago, but I believe it was the same Allen key.
Dream Rider 14mm hex. 31 foot pounds tourqe
Hi Alberto, quick question. I’m doing an oil and oil filter change on MY16 Scrambler. Any clue why the oil filter bolt union and spring came along with the oil filter? Also, would you know the torque spec of the bolt union? Grazie!
It shouldn’t, but if I understand correctly and if you are talking about the “oil cartridge support nipple” needs to be tight to 42Nm (38Nm to 46Nm) and use Medium-strength threadlocker, compatible with oil like Loctite 243. In bocca al lupo 👍
@@AlbesADV Yes in fact I was surprised to see the nipple at the end of the filter. Thank you very much for the quick response. Compliment per il tuo RUclips Channel, capo lavoro 🔝
Grazie 😀👍
Do you need to clean the mesh filter every time you change the oil?
No, not as far as I know, I did it because I didn't know what sort of maintenance the bike had had when I bought it
Did you get to have change clutch friction disks. I have question
No, I didn’t, the bike only has 3500 miles on it.
31 foot pound for drain plug is right? i reas that value in manual is wrong. Tha right torque is half of that. like 20nm. i broken the rim of bolt applying this torque on mine.
You are right, I believe the manual is wrong too, the drain plug should be 21N-m.
Hi Albe I have a monster 797 2017 and they say it has the same engine as the Scrambler and I want to change my oil. I wanted to know if the drain plug torque settings were the same 31 F/P as the scrambler?
+Andy Spencer the manual I have says 42Nm which is equal to 31ft/lbs, but keep an eye on the crush washer, if it looks like is deforming too much, stop. At this point run the bike for a little bit, check for leaks, and if it doesn't leak, you're good to go.
Albe's Adv the 42nm torque number in the manual is wrong and way to high for this small bolt. It should be 20/23nm for the drain plug. Many people already broke the bolt or had other problems due to this falt.
Thank you, I thought it was too much, but I couldn't find any other number, I'll keep that in mind for my next oil change. Thanks again for speaking up. 👍🏼
Albe's Adv your welcome. Thanks for posting this great video's. It's video's like these that inspired me to also do my own oil change on my Scrambler. And thanks to all the great info on forums I was protected from any potential harm that the wrong torque number could have brought.
Finally got exactly the same bike used from bmw motorcycle store
Just what exactly did you used to get the mesh filter out because my bike must be completely different from yours because I can’t get mine out
I used a big Allen key
@@AlbesADV what size cause I have tried a 14 mm and a 5/8 and they are not taking it out and a 17mm is too big won’t go all the way in
The mesh filter inside should be a 14mm just like the mesh filter cover, is your scrambler a different year model?
@@AlbesADV mine is a 2018 scrambler 1100 special and the mesh filter in mine is not a 14 mm I tried it
Tha sucks, why would they use a different size than the cap for it. Once again Ducati shows their contempt towards people that want to do their own maintenance 🙄
Great video!
How many liters of oil do I need for Ducati scrambler?
3.4 liters to start 👍
The drain plug and mesh plug, can the washers reused?
+Nirvash +Nirvash it's a crush washer, so would be best to replace it, but all considering if it appears to be in good condition I would sincerely reuse it, besides the plug is easily accessible if needed to be replaced later, as long as you know that if that's th e case you would have to drain the oil again.
Hi. I have a question. How do you reset oil change light?
As far as I know only Ducati can reset it, unless you have the proper tool, which is pretty expensive
You are doomed.
How do I reset the oil light?
Sorry, the light can only be re-set by the Ducati dealer or tge Ducati software
Another awesome Vid.
+Lee Gener thanks
What's the oil life of Ducati Scrambler 2016 full throttle?
Hi Dhaval, according to the manual, you need an oil change every 7500 miles or 12 months whichever comes first, but a lot depends on how you ride and where you ride, it could be as early as 3000 miles
Near the end of the video, you said, “the things I’ve seen so far on this bike, I want to be extra careful”. Would you be able to tell me what things you mean? I would like to know, thank you!
Hi Jonathan, I was talking about the things the previous owner did to the bike, forcing sae bolts into metric holes, drill the license plate, etc..
Albe, thank you for the reply. I understand now.
I’m going to be changing my own oil for the first time thanks to your help. I also successfully added the gear indicator by watching your other video 👍🏻
I’ve noticed that my street classic has no oil filter that fits on any website lol. I’m assuming that it would be the same as any other scrambler (KN153).
Cheers!
Should be the same...did you check with the k&n website directly to get a part number?
Yes, I even called them. The part number on my Street Classic OEM oil filter is 444.4.0038A, which is very confusing since they couldn’t find a reference/comparison to any of theirs, but I do have the 803 engine, it’s strange. I might just play it safe and order an OEM filter.
If you really want a K&N, You can always order one on amazon and if it doesn’t look right send it back, obviously don’t try to put it on if you are going to send it back
How many quarts did u use?
3.7 quarts
You need a spring puller dude
You reused your crush washers?
No, I usually replace the crush washer, unless I'm in a bind, like one time I found out the washer I bought for my F800GS was the wrong size but I already flushed the oil, so I made sure the washer was still serviceable and I re used it. In a pinch you should be able to re use one, just check for leaks often.
What measurement hex in mm was the mesh filter?
Hi Ivan, sorry took me so long to reply, that is a 14mm hex
@@AlbesADV you're always awesome. Thanks
what size is the breaker bar?
I put the 14mm Allen key to a 1 1/2 foot (45cm) long breaker bar 👍
Hi Albe! Can you do a timing belt change? 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hi Mforce712, I will, but I'm not quite there yet
My input as a designer of injection molds and what I’d have drawn up for Ducati. Just a few simple things could’ve made removal of the mesh filter, and thus, an oil change, routine!!!!
In no particular order:
• Design Option #1: Route the exhaust about an inch lower, thus allowing enough clearance for mesh filter removal. Lose some ground clearance yes, but not that big a deal for most riders.
Design Option #2: Reposition the mesh filter in the crank case. Duh
Design Option #3: Make the mesh filter diameter smaller, thus possibly creating enough clearance for removal.
Design Option 4: Eliminate the actual need for a mesh filter.
Jesus, I can’t believe they pay engineers at Ducati for this BS!
😆 well said but I'm afraid the goal is to get you to go to the dealer and charge you an arm and a leg 😩
Remove the oil filler cap before removing the drain bolt.
Why??
The oil will drain faster carrying out more debris or sludge
Ducati scrmbler 800 motor oil
Ducatis are so over complicated for NO REASON. I love my bike but come on having to remove the pipes just to do an oil change? What are they thinking at Ducati? Enginering is not smart
They are thinking about 💰💰💰
Have to take it to the dealer for service 🤨
A dry oil filter? Pretty sure you're supposed to put oil in the filter before you install it. Oil passageways to the top of the motor draw clean oil from the filter. You're doing premature wear to the motor like that. Remember you warmed the engine up to improve viscosity for better draining? Then took the filters off with the drain plug still off? You took the vacuum holding clean oil in the top end away allowing it to drain too. Plus a dry filter means a lot less oil at start up. Remember, air compresses, fluids do not. Will take awhile for oil to start circulating with all that air in the system preventing oil pressure.
You didn't double check the old filter ring gasket wasn't stuck to the bottom still.
And I agree on the 31ft lbs on what looked like a steel m8 thread plug... Into an aluminum case... Who told you that? I bet you're going to be a Helicoil pro.
Get a factory service book. Read it and the correct torque specs. Get a paint stick to mark the plugs after torquing. And if you use a torque wrench, use one that's been calibrated too.
Pretty sure you are not.
Here we go again, first, the torque specs and the procedure come straight off the Ducati service manual, the manual had a miss print, read the other comments, that is why I stopped tightening the drain plug when I saw the crush washer starting to warp. Second, the oil filter is located below the full line on the sight glass, therefore it fills up before you are done topping off the oil, hence the oil filter is already filled with oil when you start the engine. When you drain an engine all the parts are still coated with oil and the oil pump will take a second to replenish the oil lines, does not take a while, it’s an 800cc engine not a 6.7 L v12.
On the BMW F800GS and many other bikes and cars I worked on, the oil filter is positioned sideways on the front of the engine, how do you go about filling that oil filter before reinstalling it?
“Double checking the old filter gasket is not stuck to the engine”, are you for real? Any half good mechanic will clean where the oil filter seats before reinstalling the new filter, that goes without saying, and if you look when I reinstall the filter the engine is pretty clean right there.
I haven’t marked an oil drain plug that wasn’t for a race engine or an aircraft since in the past 30 years and I haven’t lost a drain plug yet, you’ll see oil leaking way before you loose the plug, I’m not saying that it’s wrong, I just don’t think it’s necessary, and to conclude, yes my torque wrench is calibrated.
Thanks for watching
@@AlbesADV Look. I understand you're a shade tree guy. But I know way better than the bad tips you told. Deal with reality how ever you want... I'm sure it gets you far.
Since all the facts I mentioned are not enough here is another video, one of the many showing the same procedure ruclips.net/video/pXt0tu_puEE/видео.html , or even Better go to your local Ducati factory dealer and ask one of their mechanics. Feel free to make your own “how to” video and school me on how it’s done. By the way, the only benefit of filling up the filter before install is that it enables the recommended oil level to be maintained without topping up.
Jonathon Werner what are you qualifications. From what I can tell all you do is troll RUclips accounts and play first year guitar student riffs. Do you even ride bro?
@@SouthernSportbikes if you don't like the truth, seek counseling. I'm not not scared of judgement. But I hate fucking liars. There are a lot of them. I'm a retired professional mechanic. I've met my share of wind bags and blowhards. Criticize me all you want, but you can't discredit my previous post. Think you know me from the few videos I post? I don't post lies at least.
How stupid are the Ducati engineers to make you remove exhaust for an oil change???
I can't believe you put up a video like this that has bad information on something so critical like the drain plug should have at least edited your voice and reposted the video. Nobody takes time to read the image. Most people just type in what they want and play the video. Because of you I screwed up my drain plug. When people write you comments like this you should take down your video or at least redo it.
Ok taken down
Exhaust must come off to change the oil. Who designed this bike. Insert the F word here!!!
Only to clean the screen filter, that is not supposed to be cleaned every time, but yes that is BS
Hello🖐
Can you make a video on how to adjust the chain on the Ducati Scrambler??
Would greatly appreciate it
I’ll work on it 👍🏼
thank you