@@dallebull like 2 years ago I think, maybe 3. now that I think about it I'm not sure because 2020 feels like a long time ago but I remember it happening around the pandemic Edit: it happened in November 2019, which was when donut was releasing videos nearly everyday of the week, including all the shows everyone likes. I find it hard to believe its already been 4 years
James was a prominent member of the VW community in the "baller wheel" era of fitment and style. Dude is more than qualified to walk us through this. Also, James certainly knows his way around 3 piece wheels more than he's letting on here. Anyone from the VWVortex pre-server change community knows this.
@@joe_lucid00they should do an up to speed about james andw also about donut itself. I think a lot of people would love to know how it came to be and when james came into the mix and what exactly he does. I think most people assume James is the creator of donut but that isn't true.
They mentioned they used a 3rd party company, and it still took 5 months. I get your point completely, but it like ordering a big Mac combo with a drink and fries through a delivery app. The 10$ meal shows up somewhat cold, and by the end cost 32$ if anything is messed up now you have to contact the 3rd party, ask them to tell the restaurant and ever step points the finger somewhere else until you give up. This is what would happen if they tried to get it fixed. Instead, they understand the cost of replacing vs fixing. They also have the caps to hide the clearancing. Again it took 5 months to show up. For donut it makes sense to modify. If this is your dream car you spent 15 years slowly building then it might be worth the time/effort
8:10 Slight correction. Forged wheels aren't cut from metal. They're made from compacting hot metal into a shape, kinda like making a snowball. Billet is where it's cut from a single block, like the Pagani Huayra wheels. 🫱🏾🫲🏻
I agree. Half my family grew up on farms building olld mopars and restos. I grew up in the city but ended up being a millwright. Everyone i worked with works on cars, I can build machines and love cars and know about them but never got around to tearing apart and going for it. Seeing these guys do it makes me feel like I can do it no problem if I have the balls n money.
You and James ain't car people, yous guys are more car enthusiasts cause if you can't fix them you ain't car people, and if you say different that's exactly what a car enthusiasts would say
There's no purity test to be a car guy. Do you like cars? Welcome to the club. I can't do much beyond changing my oil and spark plugs or basic wiring but I'm still a car guy.
In my teens, circa 1980-83, I worked at Jongbloed Modular Wheels aka Jongbloed Racing Wheels. We manufactured 3-piece wheels for racing and street applications. Expensive, but worth it. This was a great job and I learned many skills to help me through life. At 8:01 you mentioned "forged", that is a process in which the aluminum is hit so hard it becomes elastic (almost liquid) but without melting as shown at 8:13, but technically cut out of a forging as opposed to being "cut out of a single piece of metal" which implies billet. Forging is waaay better. What you didn't show is how the inner and outer (barrel and lip in Donut terms) are made. We started with a square flat sheet of soft aluminum and stretched it around a die on a lathe. By hand, with a steel pipe with a steel wheel on the end...not easy! Then cut the corners and center off and sent it out to be hardened. It comes back ugly but hard and rigid. We checked for cracks then it would then get put in another lathe where we would do the precise machining. Finally, it would be put in a jig with hardened inserts for drilling the bolt holes. It's still ugly, and that won't do. We did all our own polishing, and if you've never had a 10 inch wheel inner (barrel) get away from you at 100 MPH you don't know what exciting is! I don't recommend it. A 2 HP 3 phase buffer-grinder can throw a wheel pretty damn far. That being said, I can say "Building Custom Wheels" is EASY! Manufacturing them is quite challenging.
Pumphrey is dropping some weight! Looking good brother. I actually helped my neighbors dad build wheels for his race car when I was like 8 years old, waaay back in the 80's. I remember doing something that really stunk, and later was told that it was highly toxic and I should not have inhaled it. It was the 80's, so it makes sense, and come to think of it, it actually answers a lot of questions today..... I did not realize I am almost 3 years old in Donut Underground years. Love you guys!
Glad to see James looking well. I gotta be honest, it's hard for me to see a big enough difference in the wheels to care, but I'm all about sleepers anyway.
If you see real wheels compared to reps in person, you’ll definitely notice a difference. It’s the same thing as seeing te37 reps compared to the real thing. You noticed the craftsmanship, even the finish more, and refined design. Makes the car look way better compared to a rep.
Forged whells do use CNC but the part that makes them sturdier is the actual forging part where the metal is hammered into shape while red hot. Then CNCd to finish it.
Car looks so sick. That being said, the final side by side was a little like the office “it’s the same picture”. It’s more like a “I’m you, but stronger”
The style works because it's an older car that fits the look. If someone spent 6k on rims for most vehicles after 2005 it would be ridiculous. That was the entire point of a "3 peice wheel" video.
Those are some of the nicest rims I've ever seen, I'm not a fan of that design but rethinking now because the chrome and gold bolts make it pop! BBS center floaters is also a nice touch.
14:16 maybe I’m missing something but I barely see a difference? Not worth $6K to me anyways? They look nice dude but, you could’ve dropped in an 600-800hp engine for that price.
If you want custom fitment (especially with an old school spec wheel that has to be sourced from parts), that’s what it costs. Fitment isn’t just how the vehicle looks, it ultimately affects how much traction your vehicle is capable of producing on a given set of tires; in short it’s the largest factor with regards to how much cornering traction you’re capable of producing, and how much stopping power you have, it’s also a major factor with how much grip the vehicle has for acceleration (although not the as important as mass and horsepower). My car for example with 500hp has a factory fitment of 245mm wide rubber, most 1 piece wheels can be a maximum of 275mm rubber or 285 with a rolled fender, but with custom wheels you can fit a 315mm rear tire ->that’s an incredible difference in terms of drag or road racing, and the lip goes from like 1/2in from factory to like 5in with a custom 3 piece ->they look #$*)ing sick. Ultimately the biggest change you can make to the way your car handles and brakes is the wheels and tires (and the size of them), you put on.
I just love seeing James healthier than ever in recent videos, I think it's pretty chad to take care of your own physical health while also taking care of your cars physical health! just love to see it
I think I would source out another vendor after the clearance issue with the lug nuts. Donut paid them for a service and they fell short. Reputable vendors catch issues like this and communicate with you to come up with a solution. I just feel that a reputable vendor would quickly see that a modified stud piloted wheel would have clearance issues with that large of a center hub opening. Another issue that caught my eye is the poor plug welding job they performed while filling in the original stud hole pattern which leads me to believe they have poor QC procedures. There is a very visible lack of filler metal in the spots they attempted to fill with plug welds leaving a visible recess around each of the old stud holes, that then was sent off to the next department to be either painted or powder coated with a clearly visible defect. Good on Donut, Bad on the Vendor!
I put wheels on my car after one of the cast ones that came with it cracked. They were not common so I had no luck getting just one. I did not want to be spending so much money, especially with the chance of getting it wrong. It took so much time to find all the specs and when they arrived, the unrolled fenders in the rear cleared the tire at full compression by an index card. I'm not kidding, I got SO freakin' lucky. In hindsight, I shouldn't have pushed for flush, but the broken ones were a bit conservative and tucked and I was spending the money anyway, and it worked out.
Whoa, this is kinda insane price for BBS RS. In Poland you can get these for like $2k less. I’ve actually owned a set of 16 to 18 5x114.3 with wider slants than yours and sold them recently for like 3.5k, and rotors haven’t been redrilled lol
Thats what i said lol, i can find these wheels on offerup in mint condition for 2k non redrilled, 6 month wait on top too is crazy. Dude definitely got ripped off to the moon
Well yeah, wheels can be built for much cheaper had he sourced everything separately. Here it seems that he went directly to a well renown builder here in the US, @ewheelworks and simply purchased a fully refinished set of wheels without being rebuilt for the sake of building them himself for the channel.
any reputable builder would know that you should drill 4x100 in a big center bore face, there is a reason 4x100 BBS RS came with smaller center bore@@michaelurena7324
The new wheels are sick. But seeing the side by side for 6 grand. Wouldn't refurbing and cleaning up the old wheels give the same result but for a fraction of the cost. As in a lip swap and colour is all youd need. Plus the centre caps and 50 quid on floaters. Sick flex those new wheels are though.
I had 3 piece Compomotive wheels on my 1979 Fiat Dallara X1/9 the centres were custom drilled to match the lug pattern and center hole. If I wasn’t sponsored there’s no way I could have afforded 3 sets wheels and enough rim halves to repair them 4 times over. I was running magnesium centres, size 13x8.5” on the front and the rears were a beefy 13x10. All I can see is if you have the means, save it the only reason to build wheels is if your racing and need specific offsets.
Paul redrilled and refinished my OG Work Emitz. I got them as an already redrilled 5x114>5x120. I can confidently say I was one of his hardest jobs. He COMPLETELY rebuilt the hubs to make them a single 5x110 drill. They were for my Pontiac G6.
i love old school bbs mesh. i had a set back before the scene started in '93. bucky lasig and i had the first 2 custom honda civics in baltimore. i found some silver mesh single pc. bbs. it eas awesome. memories. i actually was posting to say you look great. much more healthy than before. keep it up.!! its hard A.F.!
First off those wheels are fuckkng beautiful and 2nd in so glad seeing James working on something. I think he stopped after the build offs because he was catching flack but dude no one cares if your the best or worst car builder we just want to see you trying. When I first was working on my own cars I didn’t even know you had to torque heads to spec lol and was just guessing and now I actually work on semis for a living and am really good at it. The fact you went in so deep like just to make your car the way you want it is super cool. Great job man.
Love you guys, but for real, $6K on Wheels only to hog them out manually at each lug hole? It seems like that would wheels to potentially be off balance? Curious how that worked out
For $6K I don't know that I'd accept such a slapdash mounting area. This isn't a cheap, entry-level DIY option. This is an expensive, premium ask - it should provide that.
I'm gunna be that guy. Forging is heating up the metal and using a big ass press to mash them in shape. What James described was billet machining. Melting the alloy down for casting caused the grain structure of the metal to dissolve and come apart, once cooled the grains are spaced unevenly and in random chunks. Since forging never gets to the melting point the grains remain in tact and are just stretched in the mold. The still intact and stretched grains are what gives the wheels their strength because there is no pockets and a longer path for cracks to form like a cast wheel.
James is like a completely different person! Its nice to see cos for so long he looked miserable like he didn't want to be there filming. Hope to see more episodes like this one it really makes it great to watch
If you think it’s difficult assembling three-piece wheels then you’ve never dealt with putting together Lowrider Dayton wire wheels. The process is somewhat similar, there’s the dish and the inner hub except instead of 35 bolts, it’s 100 individual spokes and nipples that have to be individually screwed in such a way that the wheel is trued. Similar to a bicycle wheel.
This video reminds me of the excitement I had when sourcing a set of genuine gunmetal Volk TE37s with carbon fibre centre caps for my s13 back in the mid 2000s
Until my most recent set, I always approached wheels from a "performance" viewpoint: weight, followed by width, followed by looks (all measured against cost obviously). This usually meant I had silver 6/12 spork wheels (RPF1s, it's always RPF1s). This was similar with cars, I focused on performance, and didn't really care what color it was, and inevitably, it was usually a silver car because they make the most of those. In my current car, I decided that color was important, so I wasn't going to settle for silver/white/black or any boring colors. I have an IS350 F-Sport RWD in Matador Red Mica. It came with staggered black F-sport wheels, when the tires were spent, I started looking for wheels & tires. I took measurements and went somewhat conservative, as front clearance of these cars is notoriously tight, ended up with a bronze 18x9 +35 square setup with 255/35R18; wheels are 19.4lbs each, tires are 23lbs each, so the combo is lighter than the stock setup will providing way more grip, and the car handles more neutral-leaning towards oversteer at the limit (which is preferred over understeer at the limit when stock). Now that I've been living with them for ~three years, I'm going to move to 265/35 on the 9" wheels as they will fit & give me a little more sidewall as my town does not take care of potholes as well as they should. The wheel & tire combo did not set me back $6,000, not even close to it.
Just a quick tip. When your spreading sealant (i primarily AC350b1/2 in aviation) but try staying Lysol foaming spray on your fingertip. The sealant won’t stick to your hand! Hope this helps
I couldn't help but notice your Expo marker is giving up on you. As a teacher who uses dry erase markers regularly, I'd recommend swapping to Crayola's dry erase markers. They're so good. It'll change your life. 😂 Keep 'em coming, boys. I love what you do.
He said "Let's see how it sits" then switches to an ad that LITERALLY has the car on the floor already!!!! Just to go back to the scene where they're about to put it down.....!!!! AAAAaahhhhhhh lmao
Can we get an up to speed on Donut Media. Would love to hear the internal story about the start, what videos where viral milestones, how you guys have decided what video/content paths to follow, etc
You need to get some Curb Feelers for your E30 to protect those nice new wheels!! I put a set on my '96 Corolla when I delivered for Domino's, and I have had a set on every sedan I've owned since then (I haven't found a set long enough for a stock XJ lol).
James looks way healthier and happier lately, love to see it 🫡
Looks like he's lost a good bit of weight
@@LongDaysVideo He had a heart attack? Damn.
@@dallebull like 2 years ago I think, maybe 3. now that I think about it I'm not sure because 2020 feels like a long time ago but I remember it happening around the pandemic
Edit: it happened in November 2019, which was when donut was releasing videos nearly everyday of the week, including all the shows everyone likes. I find it hard to believe its already been 4 years
Was thinking the same thing, looking great brother!
Svelt horse
James was a prominent member of the VW community in the "baller wheel" era of fitment and style. Dude is more than qualified to walk us through this. Also, James certainly knows his way around 3 piece wheels more than he's letting on here. Anyone from the VWVortex pre-server change community knows this.
Damn I’d love to know more about that
Tomquade7686 gives us an Up2Speed on James?? Edit: they should definitely do an up to speed on all the hosts and their journey with cars
this is a great idea @@joe_lucid00
@@joe_lucid00they should do an up to speed about james andw also about donut itself. I think a lot of people would love to know how it came to be and when james came into the mix and what exactly he does. I think most people assume James is the creator of donut but that isn't true.
I can attest to this, being in the Louisville VW scene for over 25 years.
6k for filled and drilled is wild. Especially when the redrill didn't line up with the original chamfers.
Bullshit prices. If he paid that much for them, he got taken advantage of.
They mentioned they used a 3rd party company, and it still took 5 months. I get your point completely, but it like ordering a big Mac combo with a drink and fries through a delivery app. The 10$ meal shows up somewhat cold, and by the end cost 32$ if anything is messed up now you have to contact the 3rd party, ask them to tell the restaurant and ever step points the finger somewhere else until you give up.
This is what would happen if they tried to get it fixed.
Instead, they understand the cost of replacing vs fixing. They also have the caps to hide the clearancing.
Again it took 5 months to show up. For donut it makes sense to modify. If this is your dream car you spent 15 years slowly building then it might be worth the time/effort
it was done based off of measurements, so not the companies fault, it was a simple mistake by james.
8:10
Slight correction. Forged wheels aren't cut from metal. They're made from compacting hot metal into a shape, kinda like making a snowball. Billet is where it's cut from a single block, like the Pagani Huayra wheels. 🫱🏾🫲🏻
Yeah, I caught that too 😅
Ditto. I mean, they're still finished on a CNC (or a lathe and/or mill, if you're feeling old school), but that's not what defines them as "forged." 👍
Came here to say this. Glad someone caught it before me
Yeah the right term i think would be that the wheels are machined, not forged. Striking and reshaping hot metal is what makes it forging.
It's so refreshing to have James as a solo presenter, loved it, reminds me why I started watching the channel at first!
The wheels turned out amazing!
James makes me feel comfortable to be a "car person" with minimal car mechanical knowledge and experience lmao
I agree. Half my family grew up on farms building olld mopars and restos. I grew up in the city but ended up being a millwright. Everyone i worked with works on cars, I can build machines and love cars and know about them but never got around to tearing apart and going for it. Seeing these guys do it makes me feel like I can do it no problem if I have the balls n money.
Then you’re not a car person. You’re just a poser.
You and James ain't car people, yous guys are more car enthusiasts cause if you can't fix them you ain't car people, and if you say different that's exactly what a car enthusiasts would say
@@MrTruehoustonian same thing bruh so negative for what
There's no purity test to be a car guy. Do you like cars? Welcome to the club. I can't do much beyond changing my oil and spark plugs or basic wiring but I'm still a car guy.
In my teens, circa 1980-83, I worked at Jongbloed Modular Wheels aka Jongbloed Racing Wheels. We manufactured 3-piece wheels for racing and street applications. Expensive, but worth it. This was a great job and I learned many skills to help me through life.
At 8:01 you mentioned "forged", that is a process in which the aluminum is hit so hard it becomes elastic (almost liquid) but without melting as shown at 8:13, but technically cut out of a forging as opposed to being "cut out of a single piece of metal" which implies billet. Forging is waaay better.
What you didn't show is how the inner and outer (barrel and lip in Donut terms) are made.
We started with a square flat sheet of soft aluminum and stretched it around a die on a lathe. By hand, with a steel pipe with a steel wheel on the end...not easy! Then cut the corners and center off and sent it out to be hardened. It comes back ugly but hard and rigid. We checked for cracks then it would then get put in another lathe where we would do the precise machining. Finally, it would be put in a jig with hardened inserts for drilling the bolt holes.
It's still ugly, and that won't do. We did all our own polishing, and if you've never had a 10 inch wheel inner (barrel) get away from you at 100 MPH you don't know what exciting is! I don't recommend it. A 2 HP 3 phase buffer-grinder can throw a wheel pretty damn far.
That being said, I can say "Building Custom Wheels" is EASY! Manufacturing them is quite challenging.
Pumphrey is dropping some weight! Looking good brother. I actually helped my neighbors dad build wheels for his race car when I was like 8 years old, waaay back in the 80's. I remember doing something that really stunk, and later was told that it was highly toxic and I should not have inhaled it. It was the 80's, so it makes sense, and come to think of it, it actually answers a lot of questions today.....
I did not realize I am almost 3 years old in Donut Underground years. Love you guys!
Glad to see James looking well. I gotta be honest, it's hard for me to see a big enough difference in the wheels to care, but I'm all about sleepers anyway.
If you see real wheels compared to reps in person, you’ll definitely notice a difference. It’s the same thing as seeing te37 reps compared to the real thing. You noticed the craftsmanship, even the finish more, and refined design. Makes the car look way better compared to a rep.
Adam died a little when he heard the cost lol!
Was just gonna comment on his reaction to the $6k price tag 😅
$6k for the exact same rims in a different color, hilarious
@@bananasInpajamas358exactly, weren't the wheels he already had on also 3 piece wheels that look almost the same?!
@@Niraol absolutely xD
It physically hurts me to think about such spendy wheels. My last set of muscle car wheels only cost me $600
When you apply the silicone you have to put some tape on both sides so you have a straight line of silicone when you remove the tape
I gotta say, the editing on this episode is top notch.
Also, James looks really good.
after a heart attack , anyone would take care of themselves moren
No they wouldn't, many fat positive people remain fat. Dieting is fatphobic
@@MichiganFisherswhat’s “moren”
@@MichiganFishers counter-point...why do so many people have repeat heart attacks?
@@EPiQ_cRnot taking care of themselves, some people it’s hereditary
Forged whells do use CNC but the part that makes them sturdier is the actual forging part where the metal is hammered into shape while red hot. Then CNCd to finish it.
Bingo. They conflated forged and billet.
Car looks so sick. That being said, the final side by side was a little like the office “it’s the same picture”. It’s more like a “I’m you, but stronger”
You’re not wrong. They could’ve got the old ones a good polish and it would be identical
Seeing James back in a car and building it makes me so happy. He looks so happy🥹
This might be 50 year old tech but the style is 10 years ahead.
10 yrs ahead of 90's?
Then ok.
@@nikostalk5730 Yeah, gonna say. I feel like I saw these everywhere growing up, only they weren't split rims.
its timeless
you what
The style works because it's an older car that fits the look. If someone spent 6k on rims for most vehicles after 2005 it would be ridiculous. That was the entire point of a "3 peice wheel" video.
Those are some of the nicest rims I've ever seen, I'm not a fan of that design but rethinking now because the chrome and gold bolts make it pop! BBS center floaters is also a nice touch.
@Donutmedia777carz
I love watching donut, they teach you tons of car information while making it fun and educational.
14:07 "Good things come to those who wait" like banana bread at work.
“I can’t wait till I run these into a curb.” 😂😂😂😂
To each their own, but 6k to look almost the same with no performance upgrade is crazy.
The tiniest bump is going to rub those tires right into the inner wheel well especially when turning😂😂
at least it will look good rubbing the fender. there shouldnt be many times where he will hit a big bump while turning for that to happen tho
@@cr-x7344 Dang where do you live that the roads are that smooth?
@@drunkenhobo8020 southern mountains
Bro gagged when you said 6 grand. And I'm right there with him, that's a disgusting amount 😂😂😂
14:16 maybe I’m missing something but I barely see a difference? Not worth $6K to me anyways? They look nice dude but, you could’ve dropped in an 600-800hp engine for that price.
If you want custom fitment (especially with an old school spec wheel that has to be sourced from parts), that’s what it costs. Fitment isn’t just how the vehicle looks, it ultimately affects how much traction your vehicle is capable of producing on a given set of tires; in short it’s the largest factor with regards to how much cornering traction you’re capable of producing, and how much stopping power you have, it’s also a major factor with how much grip the vehicle has for acceleration (although not the as important as mass and horsepower).
My car for example with 500hp has a factory fitment of 245mm wide rubber, most 1 piece wheels can be a maximum of 275mm rubber or 285 with a rolled fender, but with custom wheels you can fit a 315mm rear tire ->that’s an incredible difference in terms of drag or road racing, and the lip goes from like 1/2in from factory to like 5in with a custom 3 piece ->they look #$*)ing sick.
Ultimately the biggest change you can make to the way your car handles and brakes is the wheels and tires (and the size of them), you put on.
funny thing is those are completely diffrent wheels, first one is a set of 2 piece RC090 second ones are redrilled RS
I just love seeing James healthier than ever in recent videos, I think it's pretty chad to take care of your own physical health while also taking care of your cars physical health! just love to see it
Those center caps are way too cool, love them
I did not expect these wheels to look THAT good!! Bravo. Loved this episode and learned so much.
The darker contrast of the old ones honestly looked a little better...
I'm surprised there weren't pages upon pages in the forums talking about perfect fitment specs for this car
I feel like been a while since James hosted a video, forgot how much I missed it.
I think I would source out another vendor after the clearance issue with the lug nuts. Donut paid them for a service and they fell short. Reputable vendors catch issues like this and communicate with you to come up with a solution. I just feel that a reputable vendor would quickly see that a modified stud piloted wheel would have clearance issues with that large of a center hub opening. Another issue that caught my eye is the poor plug welding job they performed while filling in the original stud hole pattern which leads me to believe they have poor QC procedures. There is a very visible lack of filler metal in the spots they attempted to fill with plug welds leaving a visible recess around each of the old stud holes, that then was sent off to the next department to be either painted or powder coated with a clearly visible defect. Good on Donut, Bad on the Vendor!
That fitment is to die for. Beautiful James.
Next video:
"Wheel theft is getting out of hand!"
I've never understood why people would leave the tire stickers on. Other than that, looks good. Nice vid.
bc they wear off on the first drive. No need to spend the extra time getting them off. Unless u care abt the environment
for me its an indicator for when the tire is worn in
Tell us you've never driven a car without telling us you've never driven a car
So you can demount and return them if the fit isn't good
so old tire plebs can see your fresh rubbers.
I put wheels on my car after one of the cast ones that came with it cracked. They were not common so I had no luck getting just one. I did not want to be spending so much money, especially with the chance of getting it wrong. It took so much time to find all the specs and when they arrived, the unrolled fenders in the rear cleared the tire at full compression by an index card. I'm not kidding, I got SO freakin' lucky. In hindsight, I shouldn't have pushed for flush, but the broken ones were a bit conservative and tucked and I was spending the money anyway, and it worked out.
Whoa, this is kinda insane price for BBS RS. In Poland you can get these for like $2k less. I’ve actually owned a set of 16 to 18 5x114.3 with wider slants than yours and sold them recently for like 3.5k, and rotors haven’t been redrilled lol
Thats what i said lol, i can find these wheels on offerup in mint condition for 2k non redrilled, 6 month wait on top too is crazy. Dude definitely got ripped off to the moon
Well yeah, wheels can be built for much cheaper had he sourced everything separately. Here it seems that he went directly to a well renown builder here in the US, @ewheelworks and simply purchased a fully refinished set of wheels without being rebuilt for the sake of building them himself for the channel.
any reputable builder would know that you should drill 4x100 in a big center bore face, there is a reason 4x100 BBS RS came with smaller center bore@@michaelurena7324
really digging the solo presentation in this video, it reminds me a lot more of old donut and I love it
Such a beautiful car, truly deserving of a bespoke set of wheels
Those wheels look sick. Great work.
The new wheels are sick. But seeing the side by side for 6 grand.
Wouldn't refurbing and cleaning up the old wheels give the same result but for a fraction of the cost.
As in a lip swap and colour is all youd need. Plus the centre caps and 50 quid on floaters.
Sick flex those new wheels are though.
I like how they look exactly the same as the old ones
I had 3 piece Compomotive wheels on my 1979 Fiat Dallara X1/9 the centres were custom drilled to match the lug pattern and center hole. If I wasn’t sponsored there’s no way I could have afforded 3 sets wheels and enough rim halves to repair them 4 times over.
I was running magnesium centres, size 13x8.5” on the front and the rears were a beefy 13x10.
All I can see is if you have the means, save it the only reason to build wheels is if your racing and need specific offsets.
If I spend 6k on a set or wheels and they aren't assembled. I'm sending them back lol
Paul redrilled and refinished my OG Work Emitz. I got them as an already redrilled 5x114>5x120. I can confidently say I was one of his hardest jobs. He COMPLETELY rebuilt the hubs to make them a single 5x110 drill. They were for my Pontiac G6.
Can't believe how similar they look to the original
aren't the previous wheels were like 99% the exact same wheels?
Well, at least we know it's worth it less than 30 seconds into the video because we know he's not getting a Tesla.😂
i love old school bbs mesh. i had a set back before the scene started in '93. bucky lasig and i had the first 2 custom honda civics in baltimore. i found some silver mesh single pc. bbs. it eas awesome. memories. i actually was posting to say you look great. much more healthy than before. keep it up.!! its hard A.F.!
Can we do a video of him cleaning the brake dust off those?! That should be hilarious/painful
It’s actually a non event now with a ceramic coating, and a proper brush. It’s not the 90’s anymore dude.
2:24 my mans bought 6000 dollar wheels but still uses a 20 dollar caliper
Watching James do car stuff is so 👌
the front tires have to be eating up the fender when rolling up an inclined corner xD
Are we all pretending the old wheels don't look the same as the new wheels 😮😮
Fkn love the Emporer's new wheels 😂
I worked in a wheel shop for about 8 years, love this stuff! I waited 4 years to get the right wheels for my forester, worth it, looks dope!
Ngl, they look pretty much just like the old wheels, just newer, even though they probably aren't
He drove off before taking off the tire stickers. That's how excited he was to go out for a drive in the new set up lol
Nice job. Although I prefer the old wheels, suits the car better somehow :)
First off those wheels are fuckkng beautiful and 2nd in so glad seeing James working on something. I think he stopped after the build offs because he was catching flack but dude no one cares if your the best or worst car builder we just want to see you trying. When I first was working on my own cars I didn’t even know you had to torque heads to spec lol and was just guessing and now I actually work on semis for a living and am really good at it. The fact you went in so deep like just to make your car the way you want it is super cool. Great job man.
Love you guys, but for real, $6K on Wheels only to hog them out manually at each lug hole? It seems like that would wheels to potentially be off balance? Curious how that worked out
I like how the gold reflects off the chrome. Very nice!
This is called class love you donut media
Easy way to cut time on the building tires is use a low power impact.
I used one that was 10ftlbs and it sped up my time when I was a tire tech
For $6K I don't know that I'd accept such a slapdash mounting area. This isn't a cheap, entry-level DIY option. This is an expensive, premium ask - it should provide that.
i always wondered who owned that gorgeous E30. Props to James for such exquisit car taste
They look great and should last about 3 days in LA before they are stolen, good luck.
James is looking so much healthier now, not trying to shit on his previous condition. Just happy to see the new one.
I like the old rims better.
I'm gunna be that guy. Forging is heating up the metal and using a big ass press to mash them in shape. What James described was billet machining. Melting the alloy down for casting caused the grain structure of the metal to dissolve and come apart, once cooled the grains are spaced unevenly and in random chunks. Since forging never gets to the melting point the grains remain in tact and are just stretched in the mold. The still intact and stretched grains are what gives the wheels their strength because there is no pockets and a longer path for cracks to form like a cast wheel.
Cool wheels but the old ones had a better pattern.
$6k is so nuts. Unless it’s for competition on a track. There are just so many wheel options and with the forums, sizing is so easy.
James is like a completely different person! Its nice to see cos for so long he looked miserable like he didn't want to be there filming. Hope to see more episodes like this one it really makes it great to watch
When? 5 years ago before I started watching?
@@cenciende9401 read the comments buddy everyone's noticed how he has changed. Everyone apart from you.
Mans was so ready to flex didnt even take the tire stickers off LMAO
I love it
6k on redrilled wheels? It's a joke, right?
yes
LOL all you guys needed to do is get small diamater lugs aka tuner lugs aka spline drive lugs
Start buying toothbrushes in bulk
If you think it’s difficult assembling three-piece wheels then you’ve never dealt with putting together Lowrider Dayton wire wheels. The process is somewhat similar, there’s the dish and the inner hub except instead of 35 bolts, it’s 100 individual spokes and nipples that have to be individually screwed in such a way that the wheel is trued. Similar to a bicycle wheel.
This video reminds me of the excitement I had when sourcing a set of genuine gunmetal Volk TE37s with carbon fibre centre caps for my s13 back in the mid 2000s
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Make ‘em fit take your crown 😂
Until my most recent set, I always approached wheels from a "performance" viewpoint: weight, followed by width, followed by looks (all measured against cost obviously). This usually meant I had silver 6/12 spork wheels (RPF1s, it's always RPF1s). This was similar with cars, I focused on performance, and didn't really care what color it was, and inevitably, it was usually a silver car because they make the most of those. In my current car, I decided that color was important, so I wasn't going to settle for silver/white/black or any boring colors. I have an IS350 F-Sport RWD in Matador Red Mica. It came with staggered black F-sport wheels, when the tires were spent, I started looking for wheels & tires. I took measurements and went somewhat conservative, as front clearance of these cars is notoriously tight, ended up with a bronze 18x9 +35 square setup with 255/35R18; wheels are 19.4lbs each, tires are 23lbs each, so the combo is lighter than the stock setup will providing way more grip, and the car handles more neutral-leaning towards oversteer at the limit (which is preferred over understeer at the limit when stock). Now that I've been living with them for ~three years, I'm going to move to 265/35 on the 9" wheels as they will fit & give me a little more sidewall as my town does not take care of potholes as well as they should. The wheel & tire combo did not set me back $6,000, not even close to it.
James has cemented himself as one of the greats of automotive entertainment. I will tell him I love him back the first chance i get.
Gets $6000 wheels that need precise measurements!
“Alright let’s get the tape measure!”
Pumphrey's glowing with health. Keep up the good work James!
"if we bought single pice wheels, we could assemble them in 0 seconds, that's true, I looked it up" James' humor is on point 😂
Just a quick tip. When your spreading sealant (i primarily AC350b1/2 in aviation) but try staying Lysol foaming spray on your fingertip. The sealant won’t stick to your hand! Hope this helps
the difference between the old and the new is the BBS logo, totally worth 6000 dollars and 5 months...
Rebuilding some OZ Mito Type 2’s this week, just the video I needed for motivation ❤
Speaking of “old school, classic and timeless” this video was exactly that for donut media.
Wheels worth more than the car!
CLASSIC!
Worth the wait for classic bbs goodness. Suit the car perfectly
I couldn't help but notice your Expo marker is giving up on you. As a teacher who uses dry erase markers regularly, I'd recommend swapping to Crayola's dry erase markers. They're so good. It'll change your life. 😂
Keep 'em coming, boys. I love what you do.
He said "Let's see how it sits" then switches to an ad that LITERALLY has the car on the floor already!!!! Just to go back to the scene where they're about to put it down.....!!!! AAAAaahhhhhhh lmao
Watching this on my lunch break while sitting in my E30 just feels right
I legit said “James you gotta use gold nuts for the Steeze” then yelled yes James!!!! 😂😂😂😂
Turns that BMW into an old school Cadillac right out of an old rap video. Love them wheels.
Can we get an up to speed on Donut Media. Would love to hear the internal story about the start, what videos where viral milestones, how you guys have decided what video/content paths to follow, etc
James taste in cars is so good, bro does not miss
You need to get some Curb Feelers for your E30 to protect those nice new wheels!! I put a set on my '96 Corolla when I delivered for Domino's, and I have had a set on every sedan I've owned since then (I haven't found a set long enough for a stock XJ lol).
6:38 the garage gremlin that takes the tools I was just holding
Keep us up to date with how those tires perform