16:00 I really appreciate the fact that you're being realistic and warning people, prices in gacha games really are ridiculous and it sometimes make people spend beyond their means.
I agree. Although I don’t mind watching these videos every once in a while, I just think about how the person buying could’ve bought multiple finished video games for the money they just spent (and therefore more content)
I mean...you got to handle gacha just like gambling (as it is gambling imo regardless of what the ESA or a handful of world governements (China, Korea, and Japan seem to support it a lot for shitty reasons imo): you sparingly do it and you have a hard cap going in when it comes to how much you will spend. For me it's generally about $100 going into a casino when I have the free cash and I'll either come out with more or less (usually less) and just focus on having fun in that time...as for Gacha (only one I actively play is Genshin tbh and I've been playing it less and less lately) I started with putting more cash than I should (all BPs for the first 8 months, a $100 on Zhongli's banner, and all other options at least 1x for the first year on top of Welkin each month to now basically only Welkin and not even every month (haven't for the past 2 to 3 before the current batch i bought for 3 months work in prep for Sumeru/Sumeru's archon/Dendro character in general and I likely won't renew it for a while after that) and at best would only buy $60 worth of Welkin for the entire year (would cover every month) and may only do half of that and only when I have the extra cash for it that it won't matter much. Instead i'd rather spend my cash on full on retail games than these f2p scams, especially since at least unlike these f2p games I don't have to worry about losing the game once the service ends (at worse I'd have to worry about the game disc, console, or PC breaking as the only way I'd lose access to the game).
i freaking love mtashed because hes so conscious about his spendings and encourages other people to think about how much they spend in games. thats pretty rare with content creators and i really appreciate it. when you constantly watch people spend copious amounts of money and being really chill about it, you think wow then ig its not a big deal. but it is
If content creators actually cared about their audiences they wouldn't show countless pull videos. A lot of these influencers get statistically impossible rolls which just encourages people to go all in.
@@karehaqt in fact whales rolling actually shows even more how much bad it is to whale on a gacha game lol. Like tectone with the dtaff of homa and other stuff
Honestly, you're kinda guaranteed two SSRs within 120 pulls which is pretty nice if I say so myself. And you have the potential of getting more without resetting the pity. Better than the 180 pulls Genshin provides...
@@nebuchadness not only that but the 2 you get in genshin has a limited roster so if you fail enough 50/50 and c6 all of them hypothetically you’re burning money/primos
Bruh, anothr one who can't count... Do you even know what soft pity is? Do you know that it also applies to genshin? You will RARELY have to go to more than 120 wishes to get a character, it's really rare bcs thing like soft pity exists. It's not like this game only has it bruh.
A note on the red nucleus banner currency changing to gold banner currency when the banner changes: You can only use gold banner currency to buy copies of SSRs you ALREADY OWN. So if you are hoping to use that converted gold currency to buy Nemesis when/if she moves to the gold banner, you CANNOT buy her unless you have already lucked out and pulled her on the red or gold banners. Everyone says in Genshin that "building pity" is a myth, but that is doubly true in ToF. Do not pull on the red banner until you have 120 red nuclei to guarantee you get the weapon/character, unless you love to gamble and don't mind those pulls being wasted.
@@ZedekiahNS even if the pity does (the rolls/80), unlike Genshin where every second banner 5* is guaranteed banner character if you lost the 50/50, here you don't have that guarantee. The guarantee is from 120 rolls on that specific banner because otherwise they get converted. In a way, that is bad, because in genshin, you could have that guaranteed banner character waiting and get it next pull. Here, you might pull a Tectone and lose 50/50 every banner if you only have enough for the 80 pulls, and then never see a banner character until you get it randomly after they are added to standard banner.
@@ZedekiahNS X/80 pity carries over between banners, but when you hit that 80 pulls you still have to win the 50/50, even if you lost the 50/50 last time you got an SSR on the red banner. The only way to avoid the chance of losing the 50/50 is to do 120 pulls and get 120 of the banner currency you gain after every pull. Let's say you pull 40 times, and get an early SSR, but lose the 50/50. Then you hit 80 pulls and lose the 50/50 again. You manage to get 39 more red nuclei before the Nemesis banner ends and spend them as you get them. You are at 119 red banner currency and Nemesis ends. All 119 converts over to gold banner currency and you are at 0 currency and 39/80 on the next banner, which you could lose the 50/50 on again at 80 pulls. Nemesis moves to the gold banner a month or two later. You go to the gold banner store to spend gold currency on her, but see that she is not there. Red banner currency can be used to buy the limited weapon/character outright for 120. Gold banner currency can be used to buy a DUPLICATE of any SSR character that you ALREADY HAVE that is on the gold banner. You cannot buy your first Nemesis with your gold currency, you need to win her off the banner. Once you have won her off the banner, you can spend gold currency to get dupes to raise her star level (constellations in genshin terms).
@@taufikramdhani4514 Flame Gold is red banner currency, Black Gold is gold banner currency. Flame gold becomes black gold when the current limited/red banner ends. Flame gold can buy the limited weapon/character if you don't have them. Black gold can only buy extra copies of weapons/characters you already own. I think the best way to think of the limited, red nucleus banner is like this: Ignore the X/80 tracker. Consider your flame gold currency your pity, and it does NOT carry over between banners. Do not use any red nuclei on the limited banner unless you have 120 red nuclei. When you have 120, spend them. If you win the 50/50, stop pulling, or invest the rest of your 120 red nuclei and you can use the flame gold currency to buy a duplicate to star up the character if you want to.
So much respect for you & this video. I love how you kept it real with us even though you’re on seemingly good terms with the TOF staff/they could potentially give you the Genshin blacklist treatment. You’re a real one!
The currency in Malaysia require a crazy amount of money to top up for a Gacha Game. It's crazy that this is legal and people accepted this transaction. Overall, the TOF gacha rate is fairer than Genshin.
Man, a good advice for people that play this game and can't spend money is to do the bosses every time they can and have the item to open the box. Today I was just fooling around collecting stuff and at some point some people start doing the ice robot boss. Thing is that after being one shoted like a millions times I still got credit for the boss. I used one of those yellow card things on the chest and it gave me tsubasa or whatever the name of the Ice bow chick is. I guess being floored by the boss was worth it. 🤣🤣🤣
I had your stream minimized while playing, did a couple of random single pulls and got King at 66 pity. Mtashed luck. Congrats on getting Nemesis early brother. I'm loving how it doesn't reset ✌🏽
@@luv_kofeeThat's awesome! I'm hoping to get her before the time ends. The game wants me to main King it seems, because I got him again on Nemesis' banner..
Even if you get more "5*" in general, the fact that its a 50/50 every time for a featured is scary. Good for f2p, nightmare for dolphins that tempt you to whale.
I think the way to treat the system in this game is to consider 120 in one banner to be the guarantee and anything under that is a gamble. The 80/80 pity is a trick, in the limited banner at least.
I really hope you do more TOF content...cause you really helped me when I was starting Genshin Impact with your tips... honestly there's no content creator who has helped me more than Mtashed
@@CelestiumAim I don’t spend on these games because the worth for spending gets lower because newer and better characters gets release. Genshin is my 15 mins game ToF can be a main game as far as I know spending on Genshin with no way to use the characters except 2 week abyss is just sad. I am still 5 hours on ToF but I hear it has more worth it PvE and PvP content.
Genshin was the start of a new wave of gacha games. Having played older ones and Dislyte now... I put me off spend because of how much FOMO Genshin instilled in me com pared to all the others. I think if you like Genshin game play you might like to try ToF, but I'll use the units I get from in-game farming rather than mald on the next shiny one as the PVP in this game is the whale bait. lol Same with Dislyte, the PVP is just bait but doesn't stop your account growth. ;) But because I will not spend money on Dislyte or ToF it also easier to DROP a game you're not having fun with anymore. Also Genshin just has "better" story over pretty much all gatcha games so that's why I stay invested and why I cause to whale after a month of playing. Most gacha's have shoestring stories and they just hope you like to collect things or the gameplay to stay on.
I've spent about 42 hrs in game and he has 5 SSR weapons in 17 mins, that took me a week of playing the game with over 70% exploration in every area (besides Warren) to get that same amount including dupes. If you are planning on being f2p and have very little time in your day, it's gonna take quite some time to get what he has.
I suggest you save for the new characters instead of spending too many resources, because there's a big powercreep in this game, and even Nemesis becomes worthless compared to the new stuffs coming soon.
@@FloutchBW i believe in CN rn electric comps still use Nemesis because she is the only one with electro resonance so shes a pretty safe bet for quite some time. Like Bennett in Genshin
If it was on console, I would like to play everyday! I don’t have a pc and I don’t like playing on mobile! The game looks nice tho, I hope they release it on console in the near future!
@@UzumakiD_luffy I really hope it comes to console as well, but I highly doubt it will. The only reason I stuck with Genshin is because of the console availability. ToF won't last long if I need to melt my phone to play
Thank you for doing this Mtashed. I had no idea how the gacha in this game worked and this was very informative. I’ll probably remain whatever the Welkin version of this game is. If im going to spend big money on gacha’s it will at least be on Genshin, a game a play daily. Thank you for the video.
Yeah I am from Mexico and every gacha game is super expensive to me, but still there is fun in spending for yourself sometimes, anyways I agree with you, you need to be careful when spending in this kind of thing it gets bad really fast .
I watched Rich and Tectone get an SSR every other 10 pull on stream last night, decided to try my hand at it seeing 2 different people getting the rates they were. They were getting so many it came across as the norm. Spent around 30k black gems along with all the other pulls it gives you by the end of the night. Hit pity TWICE IN A ROW on the red banner without an SSR... I'm happy with the SSRs i did end up getting in the end, but I do sincerely believe that they were giving streamers some better luck last night. It was just so statistically impossible the amount of SSRs Rich and Tectone got with the highest view count on Twitch at the time last night. They had multiple people in their discord who would share their screen, and get absolutely destroyed by the rates (one person to the point of actually rage quitting when comparing to what the big streamers were pulling). I'm very experienced with gacha games and the rates they were pulling were strait sus and did make me feel like wanting to pull. I appreciate your warnings mtashed and great video all around
This. I don't believe the luck as well. Played alot and I only got the guaranteed one at 28. I'm currently at 70 pulls with only SRs. After standard banner I will wish on premium banner only after gathering 120 pulls. At least it requires less pulls than genshin.
I started ro think this game gives good rates in some accounts so everyone would think it is luck. I mean in my genshin account I never loose any 50/50 and even got some times a extra copy without going beyond of 80 wishes. Same hefe in tod, I got 4 ssr in standar banner within 80 pulls.
@Mtashed buying the weapon in the store will only get you the weapon, but not the character. you can only get the characters, if you pull their weapons from the gacha. i only bought the biggest Tanium bundle ($100) once, the Advanced Pass ($20) for the battle pass thing, plus Rookie Supplies ($1), plus adventure pack ($5) for a ~$126 total. using what i could from all that, i got Némesis from the 80th red nucleus pull (bought most of the reds from the Limited Gift Pack section and Dark crystals), and am only missing 5 characters total (all SSR) from the full roster. got the Terminator on full 6 stars, healing staff at 4, and Rosy Edge at 1. which puts me at 6 total SSR pulls: 3 from random 10 pulls, 1 from 80th normal pull, 1 from 80th banner pull. got Rosy Edge twice, hence the 1 star on it, instead of a 6th SSR char. and 1 SSR of my choice from a special SSR box that i got for reaching 700 points in the Starpath Navigation event. seems like any other gacha game to me, but they really need to pedal, just to keep up with Genshin, which was out way longer. gotta say tho, having such a detailed character customization is a huge advantage vs Genshin's mere gender choice, costumes and glider skins. as for the Simulacra roster, i'd say give it time, and it may catch up to Genshin's. they play their cards right, be more benevolent with their handouts, and ToF may stick around, perhaps even rival the other older big names down the line.
I remecom,end people hold onto their SSR selector till after you played a bit and you have 2-3 SSRs already. A) You can use your pick to either Get the unit you could not get or B) Get a unit type you're missing. If you don't have a shield breaker... get a shield breaker. ;) you don't need an SSRs healer Pepper is fine. There's not meta yet for global game so long as you get a unit of each time. You're good to go and farm what you want after this point.
I spent $0 and got 3 SSR characters. Even though I was guaranteed one early I got 2 additional before pity. Having some really good luck with this game.
Me too! I spent $0 so far, 3 SSR characters within 35-40 pulls, and if i look at my history, the very first ssr i got was on wish 2 (so basically 1 since i believe the halberd is guaranteed first wish).
I would have had three right now if I hadn't gotten a copy of one I got earlier before hitting pity lol I got king from soft 30 pity then a day later I continued got zero along the way and got it again at 80 I was not too happy about it tbh but I checked out the weapon and it's honestly not bad at all After getting the copy I was rdy to switch servers and just start again lol but I said let me try it out first and now I don't want to abandon it xD It saves me and protects me from dmg The first star upgrade adds healing to the weapon The skill gives me a shield so it's good for semi tanking and healing The heals scale off of atk so higher atk higher heals.
Yeah I'm f2p and I got 2 SSR within my first 5 hours of playing. I don't think i've even cleared the map yet and I haven't gotten the free ssr and free 10 yellows yet
My thoughts on this game so far. I like it, but there are 2 things that needs to be done so I can fully enjoy this game. 1 is Full Controller support. As I use a controller in Genshin, in ToF I have to go back and forth between controller and Keyboard. 2. This game does not have the option to invert the camera. Alot of games I play, has the option to invert the camera, but this one does not. So, Unitl those updates happen, I will not fully be on board with this game
When you say invert the camera, do you mean the Y-axis on the mouse, because ToF *does* have that feature (and the lack of it is one of my main complaints about Genshin). In Settings->Controller at the top there is Vertical Flip.
i got crow at 26 pity on standard and nemesis at 6. im having some pretty good luck, i really wanted nemesis as well so im super happy i got her really early
Getting the SSR in the first 30 just like getting Noel in the first 20. You can get lucky and get more than one in the first 30 though, but just because you get it early doesn’t mean at 30 you will get one for sure if that makes sense. Out of 5 reroll accounts I pulled 2 SSR in first 30 on 2 accounts.
glad to see his game works :( mine and 3 of my friends cant get on, it loads and then it opens and we take a step the game freezes for 5 mins then just crashes
Ive actually gotten really lucky in this game as a f2p. Ive got a 4 star King, 1 star meryl, nemesis, frigg, claudia, 3 star tsubasa, 3 star crow, 1 star zero, 1 star coco, 1 star huma and a shiro. Though i dont have stars for the limited chars currently.
Well when ToF 2.0 comes out globally will be even better 3 new maps, one is a desert area (which came out way before Genshin announced their desert area), the other one is a futuristic city which you can board a train and see the city in first person and the other one is a dungeon. I think after that they also added another location already. There's also a battle royale mode in beta phase where you start with no weapons, items or anything, your level starts at 1 I think and you get stuff in the BR map the mode is actually similar to Naraka Bladepoint. But that update might still take awhile it's Tower of Fantasy best update so far
@@symphonixblades yep i will prob wait no matter what lol. Well anyways There is one thing i didn't understand what is SSR selector and how do you use it?
Imo when it comes to spending money in gacha games is: If you want to spend money on the game to get the characters that you like, and you know what you're doing then it's fine, or you just don't want to spend anything on the game and just be a F2P then that's also fine, but if you feel conflicted about spending money on the game or not, then imo you really shouldn't do it, but at the end of the day it's your money. But for me though, I don't think I will spend money on this game, since I still have to get the Welkin and BP on my Genshin account. 😅
This game is a perfect example of quantity over quality. It feels like it's just cashing on Genshin's success without much effort and added many features that players have been asking for 2 years. On the bright side Genshin could steal some of these ideas lol.
more like Genshin is getting Boring 1600 primos for 10 summons is shit ton of money where i live for that one 10 pull while TOW does some shit diffrent even better than Genshin Summons in this have way more chance getting an ssr than Genshin my 30 i got from the start gave me 3 SSR Genshin when i started that gave me 0
People have been asking for that for years why would they change it now when they make money either way. Genshin will never change they will make a new game that they can get more money from us lol
@@lunaaa8225 i dont hate Genshin i just think its slow and Boring the story is not even good at all and you cant even skip the cutscenes you can in TOF but the story is also bit more intresting in TOF for me atleast
@@XicorVT imo starting from inazuma the storytelling in genshin got way worse, and storytelling in tof is literal garbage, to the pt that i highly doubt if they actually hired a professional for the job. just my opinion tho.
When I start a new gacha IF I like it a lot the first couple of days at most I'll get the stuff like the pass and monthly membership, things that aren't that expensive and usually give a ton of stuff by playing the game. If I can't stick long enough to get full use of those then much less spending so much for one character. Then if I love the game and stick with it as a main game, yeah, I might spend money to get a character I absolutely want. But yeah, glad to see people promoting having fun while warning against massive spending in these games.
Careful M. Don’t race for end game on this one. I think it’s more multiplayer based so play with some of your fans and you can get more content without getting bored like Genshin. Also to everyone, remember, these are all mobile games. No matter how bored you get, even Genshin is revolutionary in terms of mobile games. These games are designed to make you want to spend money for new characters, but they are also designed to be enjoyable without spending any money at all. (Genshin solo, tower co-op).
@@venjobitong9549 yes, but if u've played genshin, u'd have to actually get the character AND then the weapon on the weapon banner to perform well. this is why TOF is better, you get the weapon, u also getting the character. you are practically saving hundreds in TOF than in genshin
13:00 "or you're going to get this guy that no one likes. I hate that guy. He sucks" Turns out Zero is really good for 1 thing. Group afk farming vehicle parts.
Just a little tip to anyone new: you will want to max out your sr weapons even if you don't use them, because each time you get them on a pull, instead of coming the item to elevate the weapon, it will come the currency coin! (Idk if you need to max the weapons for it, but I did just in case) Ps: I love zero 😔 mine is 2 stars. It's great for pvp
It's funny to me that so many genshin youtubers jumped on the bandwagon of ToF, then realised it isn't as popular, it doesn't bring the same money and just came back where they were before after 2-3 vids. Shame, because for me this game is more fun but it is what it is
This game is by far one of the best and fairest gacha games on the market. It makes Genshin look like an absolute villain with how stingy and expensive they are.
@@SYMgenshin the spear actually one of meta in pvp... U can stun enemy with dodge attack move .. While the gattling is one of the highest dps if u got full 6 star
Another thing to probably be aware of, if you want the banner character's matrix set, you can buy it with 50 flame gold, so that makes 170 pulls on a single banner to guarantee both a single copy of the weapon and the corresponding matrix set. EDIT: Nope, that's wrong, 50 flame gold gets you a single matrix of your choice from the set.
I've always gotten the impression that for many, Genshit was their first, and only mobile gacha game experience, so even if they now have tried Tower of Fantasy, they compare things as if Genshit was the norm, when it's not. Here's some info for those such people: 1- Compare to other gacha games, even Honkai Impact, Genshit has always been pretty stingy with providing pulls, and for top tier stuff the gacha rates are pretty low (0.6%) compare to the more common 1.5% to 2% range other gacha games have (that includes Honkai Impact). 2- Usually in gacha games, when one banner for new gacha stuff ends, and another begins, all the new things from the last banner are added to the general pool. The only exceptions tend to be stuff from collaboration events, and those super special, limited, exclusive things that only appear on banners that come up maybe a few times a year. Even in Honkai, a character as old as Venti should have been added to the general banner pool by now, and likely would have been made accessible outside of the gacha at least once as well. 3- Usually in mobile gacha games, end game will revolve around some difficult gear check content, that is also usually competitive in nature, with this being how they push people to spend in the gacha. While it wasn't competitive, this is how Genshit was at first with the main content being the featured combat event each update, but they stopped making harder events/content over a year ago now. After that point they seemed to make content meant to get people emotionally invested in characters to get people to pull for them, and there's really no challenging content outside of the abyss, which is the least important/rewarding of the three main forms of recurring content in Genshit. 4- Usually there will be just one main thing in the gacha, some do have two, but considering how bad the artifact system in Genshit is, and how its inventory was always checked for space when pulling in any banner, they seem to have always planned to add artifacts to the gacha in the future, likely after Genshit profits declined past a certain level, with gacha ones probably being stronger, with little, to no RNG. I also expect they will add combat pets to the gacha in time as well, like they did in Honkai. . What this means in relation to Tower of Fantasy is this: 1- At end game, one can likely expect to get more pulls over the same span of time from playing the game, and doing events in Tower of Fantasy, than in Genshit. Then with the still low, but at least slightly higher rates (0.75%, compare to 0.6%), a pity that does not reset, top tier stuff in the shop for the currency obtained while pulling, and at least the chance to get top tier stuff from regular in-game content, you can expect to get more top tier things over the same span of time in Tower of Fantasy, than you would from Genshit if playing free to play. 2- Especially since the currency obtained from pulling new rate up weapons/characters converts to the general one when the banner ends, I would expect them to enter the general pool after their featured rate up banner ends. 3- Tower of Fantasy has an endless tower mode, PvP, as well as other things meant to be more difficult, and usually until you get to end game, content in service based games can be pretty easy, so I wouldn't judge difficulty around what it has now. Although as it is still a mobile gacha game, I wouldn't expect it to be more more than a gear check, with limited skill requirements. 4- With just weapons, that also provide "characters" as the featured gacha thing, your pulls of the same type, are not being split over different things, as they try to do in Genshit, and Honkai. . Note: I quit Genshit several months ago, quit Honkai over a year ago, and have no plans of playing Tower of Fantasy. It's just that when looking over other comments, I see people saying things as if they expect everything to work out the same way in Tower of Fantasy, as it does in Genshit, and some clear fanboying/white knighting for Genshit as well.
Lmao you sound mad hurt from Genshin. U probably just had shit luck trying to get ur characters. Besides, that’s what makes Genshin special anyways. Once you get a special character and the banner goes away for months that’s called exclusivity. You saved up to pull and got that character. It wouldn’t feel as special if they just threw every special character in the standard banner. Do I know they don’t have the best artifact system amongst other shit? Obviously. But do I still play it because it’s fun as shit and set the bar for gacha/mobile games? Obviously. Honkai is fun and so are others but this tower game is clearly not on the same development level as Genshin or equivalents. Think of Genshin as an Apple iPhone and this as like a razor flip phone. It’s not hard to see it’s a night and day difference gameplay wise. Doesn’t matter what you or anyone else says about Genshin. There’s a reason it won the awards it has. People lie numbers don’t 👍🏻
btw, congratz, you beat the game with 40 bucks :3, you don't need dupes and you should have kept those for the next limited banner. Plus this game is VERY cheap compared to... coff coff, cuz once you have a team of 3, you can RELAX and enjoy the game
I was incredibly lucky with my rolls. I got 4 SSRs within my 80 (including the guaranteed units at 30~ and 80). I then got another SSR my 10 roll after my 80. I then beat the 50/50 twice once pre-80 on Nemesis and at 80 on Nemesis. I have since then spent 225$ and got Nem to 5*s, King at 2*, Coco at 2*, Huma at 1*, Meryl, Samir, and Shiro. This is including a boat load of free summons from just playing the game. Have 100% on completion on 2 maps, and over 1.2k achievement points. Decided to spend after having so much fun, and can see myself playing a lot in the near future.
@@MrBaracu There is a guarantee at 30 the first time you're pulling with golden nucleus. This is widely known lol. Mtashed even says it in this video smh.
@@MrBaracu Please go look at literally any other video regarding the matter. Better yet, check your pull history. If you really didn't get one, contact the devs.
that being said this game is very friendly compared to others, you can get ssr in game over time by just playing. it throws summons at you and you can get them from world bosses and purple lock boxes, i spent 180 and have every character in the game and a dupe of almost all of them as well as a c3 nem.
The fact that the pity does not reset is the main thing this game does sooooo much better than Genshin 🙏🏻 Feels way more rewarding to wish and spend money in this game.
8:08 I think they want you to do 240 (3*80) so you can buy 2 of those (Venus). I haven't played the game so I dunno how to "refine" but maybe, at least you can get 2 guaranteed per 240. This is only for those who like the character(weapon) on the banner. (End) Thanks for the vid Mike. It is great!
Deleted my Coloring Story Book Genshin so i can play Hard-core Gaming Tower of Fantasy on Phone. 15 Gb was removed and Replaced by 9 Gb.🔥 I even got 2 SSR's (5 Star Character) on my first 40 pulls.
I played the game as far as i can say it wont last long for me to play like i do in Genshin almost 2 years. Kinda boring but would be fun if you play with friends.
@@TheMr151988 no If you’re invested in the story, characters music and community “mains subreddit” and other big community. Not everything is based on endgame content
@@TheMr151988 genshin will always pulls you back with every event/new map meanwhile tof is just boring other than pvp which in the future you will be locked out anyway for not having every limited weapons from limited banners.
@@Enforcer901 but we don’t know that tho and who said I was quitting Genshin everybody is making it seem like we can’t play both Genshin gameplay only last 10 minutes 20 tops I can play both I’m jus sayin the excuses for people not playin TOF is stupid imma play both and rite now TOF is hot not gonna 🧢
With regards to what Mtashed said on buying the limited character once it transfers to the standard one, you have to own the character first before you can buy the weapon from that store.
my time with genshin was fun up to 1.3. i dont mind that getting the characters requires money since they have to make money somewhere but what made me quit was even the weapons requires pulling. the only thing you can find was mats in the open world. so much content for free but if u want to make progression man, its a money hole. i hope ToF has more opportunity for meaningful drops in the open world no matter how small the chance is.
I don't spend much money on games, and when I buy dlcs, I wait for them to be cheap or I buy them if I need them yes or yes. Now, I dont see spending 200 used just to get a single character from a game as something good, I mean, imagine Skyrim online pricing a character or weapon or even a dlc of the game for 200 USD, a crazy move right? Well people actually pay this amount of money for a single character in gachas. They are addicted so they don't see the problem.
I should also mention that like genshin, you get a -lot- of black crystals by just playing the game. I've only played for 2 days now and I got 6400 black crystals. I have not bought any of the blue crystals. All i've bought its the daily reward (welkin) and battle pass which gives a little. The game is fairly genereous.
All you have to do is do exploration. I got 4 good SSRs for free, didn't spend any money yet. I have 100% explore completion on the first continent and it got me all I needed to play the game well.
My luck in ToF started off quite good then during the 2nd and 3rd round of 80, the rate just drop like crazy. I calculated and this is how many pulls for each SSR I got from day 1 Gold pull: 28 - 47 - 5 - 9 - 71 - 80 (Currently at 61) = 301 Black pull: 448 (Currently at 329) = 777 Red pull: 14 (Currently at 27) = 41
I can agree with this. I got like 2 or 3 SSR within the first 2 days, one of them being Nemesis on the first pull. Lucks been shit from, the 3rd day onwards. At least all my SRs are max stars so I can build up black gold pretty fast to buy SSR weapons I have to increase those stars
I already have 3 SSR's and I haven't spent any money, only about 35-40 wishes in (can't check atm). BUT REMEMBER, THIS IS EXTREMELY, *EXTREMELY* UNLIKELY TO HAPPEN TO YOU. YOU WILL, MOST INCREDIBLY LIKELY, NOT GET AN SSR LIKE THIS. I just wanted to share my luck because I was never this lucky in any other gacha game. Ever.
this is just a theory. if you pulled the limited character and banner goes off, the red gold will convert to black gold, right? what if the banner weapon goes into the black gold shop? very unlikely but might be their reasoning to converting it
You have to get the weapon before you can buy it with black gold, but you will able to get the unit in the normal banner after the limited banner ends.
The best thing in my opinion to do is to play with who you get from your pulls. Find ways to enjoy what you have because if you pine for a particular unit, and end up paying a whole heap of money, you'll end up regretting in the future. I got the SSR Molten Shield V2 and not knowing anything about the weapon, am enjoying learning how to play with it.
Even tho it doesn’t have the guaranteed character pity, is still more forgiving than Genshin, because you only have to go halfway the second pity and buy it out
Mtashed thanks for making this video! Truly appreciate the time and energy you put into explaining how crucial it is to save your money etc. Especially in gacha games such as this. Don't wanna flex but I kinda did a 10 pull using my dark cryst and happened to get Nemesis-Venus from the banner!!! I am so STOKEDD!! I have no idea how that happened lol.
Well I’m “free-to-play” lucky to. If the story & characters are pretty good I might get this game to at some point. Is the storyline finished or ongoing like Genshin?
I used 180 black nucleus back to back and after all was said and done, I got 2 Tsubasa (SSR Bow) and 1 Samir (SSR Dual Pistols). The next time I did it, I used 140 black nucleus back to back and after all was said and done, I got 1 Zero (SSR Cube). Finally I used another 160 black nucleus back to back and after all was said and done, I got... nothing :)
This game seems pretty generous at the start for F2P, at least. I haven't spent a dime and I have a pretty good variety of simulacra/weapons. A few of my SR weapons are maxed out and I have gotten a few stars on a couple of my SSR weapons. I haven't even gotten the SSR selector yet. I've almost made 30 pulls on the limited banner, so I feel pretty confident I'll be able to hit the 80 mark before this banner period wraps up. Whether or not I actually get Nemesis or not is 50/50, as stated in the video, and I'll likely be stuck with zero stars for a while as F2P, but one thing is for certain; my luck with Tower of Fantasy has been considerably greater than my luck with Genshin Impact. Lol.
you should wait until you get 120 pulls for limited banner before pulling. otherwise you can't get limited character 100% before her banner ends. I have 29 pulls for now and I don't have faith I can get 120 red nucleus until Nemesis banner ends. of course, you can do whatever you want, especially if you going to spend money on this game. I'm not pulling until I'm sure I get limited SSR and duplicate (if I'm lucky and win 50/50 on 80 pulls) and my wishes don't get waisted once banner ends, because if I'm going to play it longer then 1-3 month, my plan is to do it f2p anyway.
16:00 I really appreciate the fact that you're being realistic and warning people, prices in gacha games really are ridiculous and it sometimes make people spend beyond their means.
I agree. Although I don’t mind watching these videos every once in a while, I just think about how the person buying could’ve bought multiple finished video games for the money they just spent (and therefore more content)
I mean...you got to handle gacha just like gambling (as it is gambling imo regardless of what the ESA or a handful of world governements (China, Korea, and Japan seem to support it a lot for shitty reasons imo): you sparingly do it and you have a hard cap going in when it comes to how much you will spend. For me it's generally about $100 going into a casino when I have the free cash and I'll either come out with more or less (usually less) and just focus on having fun in that time...as for Gacha (only one I actively play is Genshin tbh and I've been playing it less and less lately) I started with putting more cash than I should (all BPs for the first 8 months, a $100 on Zhongli's banner, and all other options at least 1x for the first year on top of Welkin each month to now basically only Welkin and not even every month (haven't for the past 2 to 3 before the current batch i bought for 3 months work in prep for Sumeru/Sumeru's archon/Dendro character in general and I likely won't renew it for a while after that) and at best would only buy $60 worth of Welkin for the entire year (would cover every month) and may only do half of that and only when I have the extra cash for it that it won't matter much.
Instead i'd rather spend my cash on full on retail games than these f2p scams, especially since at least unlike these f2p games I don't have to worry about losing the game once the service ends (at worse I'd have to worry about the game disc, console, or PC breaking as the only way I'd lose access to the game).
Somtimes??
Soo true man , that's what attracted me to your content !
It is a sad reality. :(
i freaking love mtashed because hes so conscious about his spendings and encourages other people to think about how much they spend in games. thats pretty rare with content creators and i really appreciate it. when you constantly watch people spend copious amounts of money and being really chill about it, you think wow then ig its not a big deal. but it is
If content creators actually cared about their audiences they wouldn't show countless pull videos. A lot of these influencers get statistically impossible rolls which just encourages people to go all in.
@@karehaqt come on bud if you're old enough to know its bad why do it lol thats your own fault.
@@karehaqt in fact whales rolling actually shows even more how much bad it is to whale on a gacha game lol. Like tectone with the dtaff of homa and other stuff
He's clearly paid to promote this garbage. He spent nothing on this game, he's making money just talking about it.
@@jy1178 there are countless streamers that get payed to promote games but they rarely talk about thinking before spending
Honestly, you're kinda guaranteed two SSRs within 120 pulls which is pretty nice if I say so myself. And you have the potential of getting more without resetting the pity. Better than the 180 pulls Genshin provides...
you are guaranteed two SSRs in 80 pulls, on your first 80 pulls xD
@@IliaLo on the yellow orb banner. on the red orb banner you get one at 80 and featured at 120, guaranteed.
Exactly. 3 SSR'S or 5-Star Characters in 120 Pull Saves A lot of money compared to 180 Pull of only 2.
@@nebuchadness not only that but the 2 you get in genshin has a limited roster so if you fail enough 50/50 and c6 all of them hypothetically you’re burning money/primos
Bruh, anothr one who can't count... Do you even know what soft pity is? Do you know that it also applies to genshin? You will RARELY have to go to more than 120 wishes to get a character, it's really rare bcs thing like soft pity exists. It's not like this game only has it bruh.
Now mtashed like an older brother who put him self in danger and then gives us some good advice.
Right, yeah the danger being him getting RUclips ad money while enjoying the game
A note on the red nucleus banner currency changing to gold banner currency when the banner changes:
You can only use gold banner currency to buy copies of SSRs you ALREADY OWN. So if you are hoping to use that converted gold currency to buy Nemesis when/if she moves to the gold banner, you CANNOT buy her unless you have already lucked out and pulled her on the red or gold banners.
Everyone says in Genshin that "building pity" is a myth, but that is doubly true in ToF. Do not pull on the red banner until you have 120 red nuclei to guarantee you get the weapon/character, unless you love to gamble and don't mind those pulls being wasted.
Wait so does the pity carry over from one limited banner to another?
@@ZedekiahNS even if the pity does (the rolls/80), unlike Genshin where every second banner 5* is guaranteed banner character if you lost the 50/50, here you don't have that guarantee. The guarantee is from 120 rolls on that specific banner because otherwise they get converted. In a way, that is bad, because in genshin, you could have that guaranteed banner character waiting and get it next pull. Here, you might pull a Tectone and lose 50/50 every banner if you only have enough for the 80 pulls, and then never see a banner character until you get it randomly after they are added to standard banner.
@@ZedekiahNS X/80 pity carries over between banners, but when you hit that 80 pulls you still have to win the 50/50, even if you lost the 50/50 last time you got an SSR on the red banner. The only way to avoid the chance of losing the 50/50 is to do 120 pulls and get 120 of the banner currency you gain after every pull.
Let's say you pull 40 times, and get an early SSR, but lose the 50/50. Then you hit 80 pulls and lose the 50/50 again. You manage to get 39 more red nuclei before the Nemesis banner ends and spend them as you get them. You are at 119 red banner currency and Nemesis ends. All 119 converts over to gold banner currency and you are at 0 currency and 39/80 on the next banner, which you could lose the 50/50 on again at 80 pulls.
Nemesis moves to the gold banner a month or two later. You go to the gold banner store to spend gold currency on her, but see that she is not there.
Red banner currency can be used to buy the limited weapon/character outright for 120.
Gold banner currency can be used to buy a DUPLICATE of any SSR character that you ALREADY HAVE that is on the gold banner.
You cannot buy your first Nemesis with your gold currency, you need to win her off the banner. Once you have won her off the banner, you can spend gold currency to get dupes to raise her star level (constellations in genshin terms).
Wait .... wait ... I can't understand what you said. Do you mean the currency you mentioned is the Flame Gold Currency?
@@taufikramdhani4514 Flame Gold is red banner currency, Black Gold is gold banner currency. Flame gold becomes black gold when the current limited/red banner ends. Flame gold can buy the limited weapon/character if you don't have them. Black gold can only buy extra copies of weapons/characters you already own.
I think the best way to think of the limited, red nucleus banner is like this:
Ignore the X/80 tracker. Consider your flame gold currency your pity, and it does NOT carry over between banners. Do not use any red nuclei on the limited banner unless you have 120 red nuclei. When you have 120, spend them. If you win the 50/50, stop pulling, or invest the rest of your 120 red nuclei and you can use the flame gold currency to buy a duplicate to star up the character if you want to.
So much respect for you & this video. I love how you kept it real with us even though you’re on seemingly good terms with the TOF staff/they could potentially give you the Genshin blacklist treatment. You’re a real one!
Imagine blacklisting someone just because they say "be careful with your spendings".
The currency in Malaysia require a crazy amount of money to top up for a Gacha Game. It's crazy that this is legal and people accepted this transaction.
Overall, the TOF gacha rate is fairer than Genshin.
Ehhh, it is for characters, but there are also Matricies. I'm unsure how earning those in game is viable vs. needing to pull for decent ones.
I'ma just F2P on this one. Don't make it another money sucker I already have genshin for that 😂
@@rengoku338 dont worry if you f2p you still can fight boss and farm nucleus gold or purple from expidition
I’m surprised regular people pull on gacha games. It’s single player… literally made for content creators for our entertainment
@@jarislamecc ToF is an MMORPG tho ?
Man, a good advice for people that play this game and can't spend money is to do the bosses every time they can and have the item to open the box. Today I was just fooling around collecting stuff and at some point some people start doing the ice robot boss. Thing is that after being one shoted like a millions times I still got credit for the boss. I used one of those yellow card things on the chest and it gave me tsubasa or whatever the name of the Ice bow chick is. I guess being floored by the boss was worth it. 🤣🤣🤣
whhere is that
@@redcrow213 there's one in each region I believe, for banges it's apophis
@@redcrow213 every boss has a chance of dropping an Ssr
That's so true. My friend says that he got 2 SSR from world boss. And some people make that video too.
Tashman playing ToF because he is out of Resin. Genshin Filler Game is real 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Only applies to hardcore gamers. 😎
Genshin filler hhhhh I didn't think of that
Why are you hating on a game
Just enjoy both games
No need to be toxic
Honestly, I find genshin more of a filler considering the amount of time it takes me to use all of my resin lmao.
Story-Telling & Coloring Books against Hardcore Game 😎
I had your stream minimized while playing, did a couple of random single pulls and got King at 66 pity. Mtashed luck. Congrats on getting Nemesis early brother. I'm loving how it doesn't reset ✌🏽
Holy shit same. Im pkaying the video on the background and I got my 2nd Nemesis at 23 pity... Damn.. might try this on my genshin pulls soon lmao
@@luv_kofeeThat's awesome! I'm hoping to get her before the time ends. The game wants me to main King it seems, because I got him again on Nemesis' banner..
@@XRufio84X ah while here i am i want king so bad xD youre guaranteed now, goodluck on your pulls!
Even if you get more "5*" in general, the fact that its a 50/50 every time for a featured is scary.
Good for f2p, nightmare for dolphins that tempt you to whale.
I think the way to treat the system in this game is to consider 120 in one banner to be the guarantee and anything under that is a gamble. The 80/80 pity is a trick, in the limited banner at least.
@@Grapejellyification but is that really true? (that it's not guaranteed after you lose 50/50)
I really hope you do more TOF content...cause you really helped me when I was starting Genshin Impact with your tips... honestly there's no content creator who has helped me more than Mtashed
I honestly don't feel the slightest urge to jump from one gacha to another. I learned my lesson with Genshin.
i can tell it's a fun game but i already ruined my life gambling on genshin and honkai LOL
@@CelestiumAim I don’t spend on these games because the worth for spending gets lower because newer and better characters gets release. Genshin is my 15 mins game ToF can be a main game as far as I know spending on Genshin with no way to use the characters except 2 week abyss is just sad. I am still 5 hours on ToF but I hear it has more worth it PvE and PvP content.
Your first gacha is genshin? 😂
@@kei9611 agreed. seeing how the gacha rates are better, i might switch to tof as the main game as well. maybe back to genshin in the future.
Genshin was the start of a new wave of gacha games. Having played older ones and Dislyte now... I put me off spend because of how much FOMO Genshin instilled in me com pared to all the others.
I think if you like Genshin game play you might like to try ToF, but I'll use the units I get from in-game farming rather than mald on the next shiny one as the PVP in this game is the whale bait. lol Same with Dislyte, the PVP is just bait but doesn't stop your account growth. ;) But because I will not spend money on Dislyte or ToF it also easier to DROP a game you're not having fun with anymore.
Also Genshin just has "better" story over pretty much all gatcha games so that's why I stay invested and why I cause to whale after a month of playing. Most gacha's have shoestring stories and they just hope you like to collect things or the gameplay to stay on.
I've spent about 42 hrs in game and he has 5 SSR weapons in 17 mins, that took me a week of playing the game with over 70% exploration in every area (besides Warren) to get that same amount including dupes. If you are planning on being f2p and have very little time in your day, it's gonna take quite some time to get what he has.
I suggest you save for the new characters instead of spending too many resources, because there's a big powercreep in this game, and even Nemesis becomes worthless compared to the new stuffs coming soon.
It a game not a race. The faster u reach end game the faster u get bored of it.
Only 5 ? you are wishing in the red and purple banners too right?
@@FloutchBW i believe in CN rn electric comps still use Nemesis because she is the only one with electro resonance so shes a pretty safe bet for quite some time. Like Bennett in Genshin
@@mordy2085 it's not, look at the Chinese stuffs, the new things already killed what we have in the global
this game is perfect to play after you finished your daily genshin routine its so much fun
If it was on console, I would like to play everyday! I don’t have a pc and I don’t like playing on mobile! The game looks nice tho, I hope they release it on console in the near future!
@Rayrex Lapis How? It says controller support is not available on PC yet... I tried connecting my PS4 controller but nothing happened.
@@Goujiki PS4 controllers aren't Plug and play on PC I believe, only Xbox
@@Goujiki only Xbox controllers are supported for most pc games ,TOF included,to use a ps4 controller you gotta download so many random apps
@@UzumakiD_luffy I really hope it comes to console as well, but I highly doubt it will. The only reason I stuck with Genshin is because of the console availability. ToF won't last long if I need to melt my phone to play
so glad your doing TOF! your content is always fantastic! keep it up tash man!
Thank you for doing this Mtashed. I had no idea how the gacha in this game worked and this was very informative. I’ll probably remain whatever the Welkin version of this game is. If im going to spend big money on gacha’s it will at least be on Genshin, a game a play daily. Thank you for the video.
Playing TOF/Genshin and watching mtashed is one of the best vibes I've felt and will hopefully continue to feel lol
Bro no one cared😂😂😂
@@anonym6471 kid go fys somewhere else
@@anonym6471 I do
@@anonym6471 alr? Your opinion doesn't affect me that's your opinion man 😅😂
@@tea.23 your useless in this world
Love how Mtashed justifies his gatcha pulling adiction with "I want to see what happens" xD
Yeah I am from Mexico and every gacha game is super expensive to me, but still there is fun in spending for yourself sometimes, anyways I agree with you, you need to be careful when spending in this kind of thing it gets bad really fast .
The best option for those that still wanna spend, it is the pass where you get stuff daily for 30 days.
I watched Rich and Tectone get an SSR every other 10 pull on stream last night, decided to try my hand at it seeing 2 different people getting the rates they were. They were getting so many it came across as the norm. Spent around 30k black gems along with all the other pulls it gives you by the end of the night. Hit pity TWICE IN A ROW on the red banner without an SSR... I'm happy with the SSRs i did end up getting in the end, but I do sincerely believe that they were giving streamers some better luck last night. It was just so statistically impossible the amount of SSRs Rich and Tectone got with the highest view count on Twitch at the time last night. They had multiple people in their discord who would share their screen, and get absolutely destroyed by the rates (one person to the point of actually rage quitting when comparing to what the big streamers were pulling). I'm very experienced with gacha games and the rates they were pulling were strait sus and did make me feel like wanting to pull.
I appreciate your warnings mtashed and great video all around
This. I don't believe the luck as well. Played alot and I only got the guaranteed one at 28. I'm currently at 70 pulls with only SRs. After standard banner I will wish on premium banner only after gathering 120 pulls. At least it requires less pulls than genshin.
This is pretty standard for CN games by letting influencers get superbly lucky so their viewers will be fooled to spend mony to pull.
You got
J E B A I T E D
The devs know who the influeners are and adjust their rates accordingly, it's pretty obvious when you think about it.
I started ro think this game gives good rates in some accounts so everyone would think it is luck. I mean in my genshin account I never loose any 50/50 and even got some times a extra copy without going beyond of 80 wishes. Same hefe in tod, I got 4 ssr in standar banner within 80 pulls.
@Mtashed buying the weapon in the store will only get you the weapon, but not the character. you can only get the characters, if you pull their weapons from the gacha.
i only bought the biggest Tanium bundle ($100) once, the Advanced Pass ($20) for the battle pass thing, plus Rookie Supplies ($1), plus adventure pack ($5) for a ~$126 total.
using what i could from all that, i got Némesis from the 80th red nucleus pull (bought most of the reds from the Limited Gift Pack section and Dark crystals), and am only missing 5 characters total (all SSR) from the full roster. got the Terminator on full 6 stars, healing staff at 4, and Rosy Edge at 1.
which puts me at 6 total SSR pulls: 3 from random 10 pulls, 1 from 80th normal pull, 1 from 80th banner pull. got Rosy Edge twice, hence the 1 star on it, instead of a 6th SSR char. and 1 SSR of my choice from a special SSR box that i got for reaching 700 points in the Starpath Navigation event.
seems like any other gacha game to me, but they really need to pedal, just to keep up with Genshin, which was out way longer. gotta say tho, having such a detailed character customization is a huge advantage vs Genshin's mere gender choice, costumes and glider skins. as for the Simulacra roster, i'd say give it time, and it may catch up to Genshin's. they play their cards right, be more benevolent with their handouts, and ToF may stick around, perhaps even rival the other older big names down the line.
“You won’t get this lucky”…
Me who got 5 SSRs within my first 80 pulls: hmmm yes I agree
Damn that fukin good luck
Wtf
i got two in like first 37 on standard banmer
And then here is me who got only 1 and it was guaranteed at 30.
Same fam. I got Coccoritter, Zero, Tsubasa, King, and two copies of Meryll in 80 pulls
I remecom,end people hold onto their SSR selector till after you played a bit and you have 2-3 SSRs already. A) You can use your pick to either Get the unit you could not get or B) Get a unit type you're missing. If you don't have a shield breaker... get a shield breaker. ;) you don't need an SSRs healer Pepper is fine.
There's not meta yet for global game so long as you get a unit of each time. You're good to go and farm what you want after this point.
I’m not gonna try the game but it’s pretty cool to see your reaction and the content!
Why not, tryit
Same, looks boring.
@@liemkui8730 Too many good games to be stuck playing this. Seems like a decent game though.
Same
@@LarryL3g3nd True
I spent $0 and got 3 SSR characters. Even though I was guaranteed one early I got 2 additional before pity. Having some really good luck with this game.
Me too! I spent $0 so far, 3 SSR characters within 35-40 pulls, and if i look at my history, the very first ssr i got was on wish 2 (so basically 1 since i believe the halberd is guaranteed first wish).
I spent 50 cents on this game and only get 1 SSR, but that's because I need to buy a cup of coffee in a coffee shop to use their wi fi....
I would have had three right now if I hadn't gotten a copy of one I got earlier before hitting pity lol
I got king from soft 30 pity then a day later I continued got zero along the way and got it again at 80
I was not too happy about it tbh but I checked out the weapon and it's honestly not bad at all
After getting the copy I was rdy to switch servers and just start again lol but I said let me try it out first and now I don't want to abandon it xD
It saves me and protects me from dmg
The first star upgrade adds healing to the weapon
The skill gives me a shield so it's good for semi tanking and healing
The heals scale off of atk so higher atk higher heals.
btw you get one ssr at 30-70 and 80 in your first standard banner pulls
Yeah I'm f2p and I got 2 SSR within my first 5 hours of playing. I don't think i've even cleared the map yet and I haven't gotten the free ssr and free 10 yellows yet
I really enjoy the movement in this game, it feels so smooth and the character creator is so much fun trying to create anime characters
unpopular opinion
wait, I thought the movement is not smooth enough
@@gordonfoo2416 nah it's comparable to honkai but not genshin
Genuinely the best part of the game. Moving around the world is so much faster and easier than in Genshin. It's very freeing.
@@fafka1445 it might not be as smooth but traversal is definitely more fun than genshin
I got Shiro (the second SSR you pulled) as my 30 pity character and I love her. I hope you find her fun, too.
Oh you lucky!!!! I want her so bad!
Update: I got her! She is indeed bae UwU
Shiro is bae ngl
Yeah shiro design is so cute. But I love my nemesis more especially when she send me a message everyday.
Great content as always!
My thoughts on this game so far. I like it, but there are 2 things that needs to be done so I can fully enjoy this game. 1 is Full Controller support. As I use a controller in Genshin, in ToF I have to go back and forth between controller and Keyboard. 2. This game does not have the option to invert the camera. Alot of games I play, has the option to invert the camera, but this one does not. So, Unitl those updates happen, I will not fully be on board with this game
When you say invert the camera, do you mean the Y-axis on the mouse, because ToF *does* have that feature (and the lack of it is one of my main complaints about Genshin). In Settings->Controller at the top there is Vertical Flip.
i got crow at 26 pity on standard and nemesis at 6. im having some pretty good luck, i really wanted nemesis as well so im super happy i got her really early
Getting the SSR in the first 30 just like getting Noel in the first 20. You can get lucky and get more than one in the first 30 though, but just because you get it early doesn’t mean at 30 you will get one for sure if that makes sense. Out of 5 reroll accounts I pulled 2 SSR in first 30 on 2 accounts.
Tash, i just want to say
You are an amazing person.
Keep loving what you do
yep yepp yeppp
agreed
so much different and grown from the last time saw your video about genshin gacha spending thousands, much gratified!
Guess it’s time to subscribe again haha
glad to see his game works :( mine and 3 of my friends cant get on, it loads and then it opens and we take a step the game freezes for 5 mins then just crashes
It literally crashes my computer 4 times :/ I feel you
My friend has the game only in chinese and no way to fix it. Only works fine for him on the tablet, but said the controls sucks balls.
@@nerio1227 i play computer and phone crashes on both lol
@@listellareloadedxx8090 how can the game take genshin off its throne when it wont even run lol
Probably your computer cant handle the game
Ive actually gotten really lucky in this game as a f2p. Ive got a 4 star King, 1 star meryl, nemesis, frigg, claudia, 3 star tsubasa, 3 star crow, 1 star zero, 1 star coco, 1 star huma and a shiro. Though i dont have stars for the limited chars currently.
I got a ssr in around 36 pulls. currently it's pretty good and I have covered the whole map. waiting for new quests to do
Well when ToF 2.0 comes out globally will be even better 3 new maps, one is a desert area (which came out way before Genshin announced their desert area), the other one is a futuristic city which you can board a train and see the city in first person and the other one is a dungeon. I think after that they also added another location already. There's also a battle royale mode in beta phase where you start with no weapons, items or anything, your level starts at 1 I think and you get stuff in the BR map the mode is actually similar to Naraka Bladepoint. But that update might still take awhile it's Tower of Fantasy best update so far
@@symphonixblades yep i will prob wait no matter what lol.
Well anyways There is one thing i didn't understand what is SSR selector and how do you use it?
@@Aeterin Take a break bro. Time gates are for your health.
@@symphonixblades I mean not really everyone knew sumeru was going to have a desert since like the first week of genshin lol
@@SlasherNL that's true
Imo when it comes to spending money in gacha games is:
If you want to spend money on the game to get the characters that you like, and you know what you're doing then it's fine, or you just don't want to spend anything on the game and just be a F2P then that's also fine, but if you feel conflicted about spending money on the game or not, then imo you really shouldn't do it, but at the end of the day it's your money.
But for me though, I don't think I will spend money on this game, since I still have to get the Welkin and BP on my Genshin account. 😅
This game is a perfect example of quantity over quality.
It feels like it's just cashing on Genshin's success without much effort and added many features that players have been asking for 2 years. On the bright side Genshin could steal some of these ideas lol.
more like Genshin is getting Boring 1600 primos for 10 summons is shit ton of money where i live for that one 10 pull while TOW does some shit diffrent even better than Genshin Summons in this have way more chance getting an ssr than Genshin my 30 i got from the start gave me 3 SSR Genshin when i started that gave me 0
People have been asking for that for years why would they change it now when they make money either way. Genshin will never change they will make a new game that they can get more money from us lol
not to mention a bunch of genshin haters lol
@@lunaaa8225 i dont hate Genshin i just think its slow and Boring the story is not even good at all and you cant even skip the cutscenes you can in TOF but the story is also bit more intresting in TOF for me atleast
@@XicorVT imo starting from inazuma the storytelling in genshin got way worse, and storytelling in tof is literal garbage, to the pt that i highly doubt if they actually hired a professional for the job. just my opinion tho.
can't wait for the future "I'm quitting ToF", "Why I'm Quitting ToF", " I'm Quitting ToF Again", videos.
Love this guy. Warning people about spending too much. ❤️
dude on the 50/50 i pulled two nemesis at once lol
I’m excited to try this game! I’ll probably stick ftp, but I’m here for this content.
When I start a new gacha IF I like it a lot the first couple of days at most I'll get the stuff like the pass and monthly membership, things that aren't that expensive and usually give a ton of stuff by playing the game. If I can't stick long enough to get full use of those then much less spending so much for one character. Then if I love the game and stick with it as a main game, yeah, I might spend money to get a character I absolutely want.
But yeah, glad to see people promoting having fun while warning against massive spending in these games.
i got an ssr at 28 too on standard
then i got another ssr on limited at 11 not nemesis tho
Careful M. Don’t race for end game on this one. I think it’s more multiplayer based so play with some of your fans and you can get more content without getting bored like Genshin. Also to everyone, remember, these are all mobile games. No matter how bored you get, even Genshin is revolutionary in terms of mobile games. These games are designed to make you want to spend money for new characters, but they are also designed to be enjoyable without spending any money at all. (Genshin solo, tower co-op).
what i love about this gacha, is if you pull the weapon, you actually get the character along with it as well
Character it doesnt matter bec you actualy buying for the weapon
@@venjobitong9549 yes, but if u've played genshin, u'd have to actually get the character AND then the weapon on the weapon banner to perform well.
this is why TOF is better, you get the weapon, u also getting the character. you are practically saving hundreds in TOF than in genshin
I like this, tof just put the two things in one.
DUDE, you have all the healers AND Shiro. That's what I want, lmao. (I want to play support.) I hope you can get who you actually want soon. :)
1:44 Why it sounds like Spiderman theme like Original Spiderman theme of Tobey Maguire
13:00 "or you're going to get this guy that no one likes. I hate that guy. He sucks"
Turns out Zero is really good for 1 thing. Group afk farming vehicle parts.
Whale mtashed is back lets go!!!!
Just a little tip to anyone new: you will want to max out your sr weapons even if you don't use them, because each time you get them on a pull, instead of coming the item to elevate the weapon, it will come the currency coin! (Idk if you need to max the weapons for it, but I did just in case)
Ps: I love zero 😔 mine is 2 stars. It's great for pvp
Yes you need to c6 it. i c6 all of my SR weapons and I get black gold coins everytime i get SR weapons
@@wave3899 what is C6??
I got limited SSR in first few pulls, now I see how lucky I am
It's funny to me that so many genshin youtubers jumped on the bandwagon of ToF, then realised it isn't as popular, it doesn't bring the same money and just came back where they were before after 2-3 vids. Shame, because for me this game is more fun but it is what it is
This game is by far one of the best and fairest gacha games on the market. It makes Genshin look like an absolute villain with how stingy and expensive they are.
I already have all characters except for two SSR
Yeah, surely the game which SR below is utterly useless is fairest gacha games on the market
@@SYMgenshin the sr weapon is quite usefull and one of em ar one of the meta in pvp
@@aminbaaduzamanmaybe only the ice hammer one and the healer one, the rest is just garbage
@@SYMgenshin the spear actually one of meta in pvp...
U can stun enemy with dodge attack move ..
While the gattling is one of the highest dps if u got full 6 star
Another thing to probably be aware of, if you want the banner character's matrix set, you can buy it with 50 flame gold, so that makes 170 pulls on a single banner to guarantee both a single copy of the weapon and the corresponding matrix set.
EDIT: Nope, that's wrong, 50 flame gold gets you a single matrix of your choice from the set.
Can't wait for him to start regretting this decision and then starting a new F2PGod account with video dedicated to it with an apology included
Maybe he'll cry again 🤣
Mtashed: Do as i say, Not as i do.
Me: Damn, that was deep...
I've always gotten the impression that for many, Genshit was their first, and only mobile gacha game experience, so even if they now have tried Tower of Fantasy, they compare things as if Genshit was the norm, when it's not. Here's some info for those such people:
1- Compare to other gacha games, even Honkai Impact, Genshit has always been pretty stingy with providing pulls, and for top tier stuff the gacha rates are pretty low (0.6%) compare to the more common 1.5% to 2% range other gacha games have (that includes Honkai Impact).
2- Usually in gacha games, when one banner for new gacha stuff ends, and another begins, all the new things from the last banner are added to the general pool. The only exceptions tend to be stuff from collaboration events, and those super special, limited, exclusive things that only appear on banners that come up maybe a few times a year. Even in Honkai, a character as old as Venti should have been added to the general banner pool by now, and likely would have been made accessible outside of the gacha at least once as well.
3- Usually in mobile gacha games, end game will revolve around some difficult gear check content, that is also usually competitive in nature, with this being how they push people to spend in the gacha. While it wasn't competitive, this is how Genshit was at first with the main content being the featured combat event each update, but they stopped making harder events/content over a year ago now. After that point they seemed to make content meant to get people emotionally invested in characters to get people to pull for them, and there's really no challenging content outside of the abyss, which is the least important/rewarding of the three main forms of recurring content in Genshit.
4- Usually there will be just one main thing in the gacha, some do have two, but considering how bad the artifact system in Genshit is, and how its inventory was always checked for space when pulling in any banner, they seem to have always planned to add artifacts to the gacha in the future, likely after Genshit profits declined past a certain level, with gacha ones probably being stronger, with little, to no RNG. I also expect they will add combat pets to the gacha in time as well, like they did in Honkai.
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What this means in relation to Tower of Fantasy is this:
1- At end game, one can likely expect to get more pulls over the same span of time from playing the game, and doing events in Tower of Fantasy, than in Genshit. Then with the still low, but at least slightly higher rates (0.75%, compare to 0.6%), a pity that does not reset, top tier stuff in the shop for the currency obtained while pulling, and at least the chance to get top tier stuff from regular in-game content, you can expect to get more top tier things over the same span of time in Tower of Fantasy, than you would from Genshit if playing free to play.
2- Especially since the currency obtained from pulling new rate up weapons/characters converts to the general one when the banner ends, I would expect them to enter the general pool after their featured rate up banner ends.
3- Tower of Fantasy has an endless tower mode, PvP, as well as other things meant to be more difficult, and usually until you get to end game, content in service based games can be pretty easy, so I wouldn't judge difficulty around what it has now. Although as it is still a mobile gacha game, I wouldn't expect it to be more more than a gear check, with limited skill requirements.
4- With just weapons, that also provide "characters" as the featured gacha thing, your pulls of the same type, are not being split over different things, as they try to do in Genshit, and Honkai.
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Note:
I quit Genshit several months ago, quit Honkai over a year ago, and have no plans of playing Tower of Fantasy. It's just that when looking over other comments, I see people saying things as if they expect everything to work out the same way in Tower of Fantasy, as it does in Genshit, and some clear fanboying/white knighting for Genshit as well.
Lmao you sound mad hurt from Genshin. U probably just had shit luck trying to get ur characters. Besides, that’s what makes Genshin special anyways. Once you get a special character and the banner goes away for months that’s called exclusivity. You saved up to pull and got that character. It wouldn’t feel as special if they just threw every special character in the standard banner. Do I know they don’t have the best artifact system amongst other shit? Obviously. But do I still play it because it’s fun as shit and set the bar for gacha/mobile games? Obviously. Honkai is fun and so are others but this tower game is clearly not on the same development level as Genshin or equivalents. Think of Genshin as an Apple iPhone and this as like a razor flip phone. It’s not hard to see it’s a night and day difference gameplay wise. Doesn’t matter what you or anyone else says about Genshin. There’s a reason it won the awards it has. People lie numbers don’t 👍🏻
Touch some grass, mate.
btw, congratz, you beat the game with 40 bucks :3, you don't need dupes and you should have kept those for the next limited banner. Plus this game is VERY cheap compared to... coff coff, cuz once you have a team of 3, you can RELAX and enjoy the game
Nice video Mtashed
I was incredibly lucky with my rolls. I got 4 SSRs within my 80 (including the guaranteed units at 30~ and 80). I then got another SSR my 10 roll after my 80. I then beat the 50/50 twice once pre-80 on Nemesis and at 80 on Nemesis. I have since then spent 225$ and got Nem to 5*s, King at 2*, Coco at 2*, Huma at 1*, Meryl, Samir, and Shiro. This is including a boat load of free summons from just playing the game. Have 100% on completion on 2 maps, and over 1.2k achievement points.
Decided to spend after having so much fun, and can see myself playing a lot in the near future.
There is just a garanteed at 80 btw... the game say it. It never was 30
@@MrBaracu There is a guarantee at 30 the first time you're pulling with golden nucleus. This is widely known lol. Mtashed even says it in this video smh.
@@SanityPotion776 yeah no i never get one at 30.
@@MrBaracu Please go look at literally any other video regarding the matter. Better yet, check your pull history. If you really didn't get one, contact the devs.
I’m very shocked by how f2p friendly tower of fantasy has been, it’s just treating us much better than genshin
Genshin had the same kind of things when it first came out you got like 50 to 60 pulls for free
@@ZaineTheBrain bro I don’t understand how people are comparing this game to Genshin. This games trash lol
i got 4 SSR in 3 days.
@@ZaineTheBrain like getting 4 SSR in first day ???no way
@@FilmerStevie jajaja yeah yeah whatever
that being said this game is very friendly compared to others, you can get ssr in game over time by just playing. it throws summons at you and you can get them from world bosses and purple lock boxes, i spent 180 and have every character in the game and a dupe of almost all of them as well as a c3 nem.
I’m not getting this game I spent too much on Genshin alone 💀
Same, but tower is free
@@theatlantean8036 so was Genshin bruh… some people don’t wanna invest time into MULTIPLE grindy gachas 😭
The pummeler at c6 is one of the best ftp pvp weapons because it’s passive stuns every 20 seconds, I only found this out because my friend abused it 💀
The fact that the pity does not reset is the main thing this game does sooooo much better than Genshin 🙏🏻
Feels way more rewarding to wish and spend money in this game.
Genshin pity doesn't reset tho? Are u sure u are not talking about GBF or Arknights limited banner?
@@suisui5930 pity is 80 if you get an ssr at 45/80 pity will still stay so you'll get one 35 pulls latter
Genshin 5 star pity will reset back to 0
@@suisui5930 Genshin pity reset when you gain a 5 star character/weapon, it resets back to 0 but in ToF it doesn't reset.
@@suisui5930 Bro if u get a 5 star before 90 the pity resets. Soft pity at 75 to 85 and hard pity at 90 both reset.
8:08 I think they want you to do 240 (3*80) so you can buy 2 of those (Venus). I haven't played the game so I dunno how to "refine" but maybe, at least you can get 2 guaranteed per 240. This is only for those who like the character(weapon) on the banner.
(End) Thanks for the vid Mike. It is great!
Deleted my Coloring Story Book Genshin so i can play Hard-core Gaming Tower of Fantasy on Phone. 15 Gb was removed and Replaced by 9 Gb.🔥 I even got 2 SSR's (5 Star Character) on my first 40 pulls.
You reminded me by my big bro, he always keep telling me if you like the game spend some money in it if you're willing to stay on that game.
I played the game as far as i can say it wont last long for me to play like i do in Genshin almost 2 years. Kinda boring but would be fun if you play with friends.
Genshin is boring af tho lol
@@TheMr151988 no If you’re invested in the story, characters music and community “mains subreddit” and other big community. Not everything is based on endgame content
@@TheMr151988 genshin will always pulls you back with every event/new map meanwhile tof is just boring other than pvp which in the future you will be locked out anyway for not having every limited weapons from limited banners.
@@Enforcer901 but we don’t know that tho and who said I was quitting Genshin everybody is making it seem like we can’t play both Genshin gameplay only last 10 minutes 20 tops I can play both I’m jus sayin the excuses for people not playin TOF is stupid imma play both and rite now TOF is hot not gonna 🧢
@@TheMr151988 this game is out in china for a year now and the game is barely living. Do yourself a favour and search for why it's dying in china.
Mtashed: spent 200 usd, didn't get king
Me: spent 0 usd, got king
On the Gold Nucleus Banner, you're also guaranteed at 60. So it's 30, 60 and last one at 80.
That's not true
Source?
@@ellegt1392 i'm at 70 pulls now and only got the 30 pulls ssr so it's bullshit for sure
With regards to what Mtashed said on buying the limited character once it transfers to the standard one, you have to own the character first before you can buy the weapon from that store.
Too greedy…sticking with Genshin…THANK YOU MTASHED❣️
That should have cost $1-20 depending on how useful it actually is.
That 100$ on genshin will give you 4* character and offrate 5* lmao
abit info
1. Nemesis will added to general pool later after rerun, and u can buy her from general shop too
2. World Boss drop SSR unit, if u lucky lol
this game is good for when im bored of genshin i guess
We were laughing and crying and tripping on genshin with you, and now we are in this new game, and still we are with you Mtashed ❤️
being a whale already
my time with genshin was fun up to 1.3. i dont mind that getting the characters requires money since they have to make money somewhere but what made me quit was even the weapons requires pulling. the only thing you can find was mats in the open world. so much content for free but if u want to make progression man, its a money hole. i hope ToF has more opportunity for meaningful drops in the open world no matter how small the chance is.
I haven't spent any money in Genshin and progress has been perfectly fine. You don't need to buy weapons as there are very adequate f2p options.
this game is dead already💀
I don't spend much money on games, and when I buy dlcs, I wait for them to be cheap or I buy them if I need them yes or yes. Now, I dont see spending 200 used just to get a single character from a game as something good, I mean, imagine Skyrim online pricing a character or weapon or even a dlc of the game for 200 USD, a crazy move right? Well people actually pay this amount of money for a single character in gachas. They are addicted so they don't see the problem.
You know you are not a god here f2p god in in another community though 🙃
I should also mention that like genshin, you get a -lot- of black crystals by just playing the game. I've only played for 2 days now and I got 6400 black crystals. I have not bought any of the blue crystals. All i've bought its the daily reward (welkin) and battle pass which gives a little. The game is fairly genereous.
Watching Mtashed makes me feel so shit cause he gets millions of 5 stars back to back to back.
All you have to do is do exploration. I got 4 good SSRs for free, didn't spend any money yet. I have 100% explore completion on the first continent and it got me all I needed to play the game well.
2023 player here, and new to the game - why is the Gacha animation 10xs cooler one year ago?!?!🤣🤣
My luck in ToF started off quite good then during the 2nd and 3rd round of 80, the rate just drop like crazy.
I calculated and this is how many pulls for each SSR I got from day 1
Gold pull: 28 - 47 - 5 - 9 - 71 - 80 (Currently at 61) = 301
Black pull: 448 (Currently at 329) = 777
Red pull: 14 (Currently at 27) = 41
I can agree with this. I got like 2 or 3 SSR within the first 2 days, one of them being Nemesis on the first pull. Lucks been shit from, the 3rd day onwards. At least all my SRs are max stars so I can build up black gold pretty fast to buy SSR weapons I have to increase those stars
Best part about this game is when you get the weapon to 3 stars you unlock its altrrnet costume.
I already have 3 SSR's and I haven't spent any money, only about 35-40 wishes in (can't check atm). BUT REMEMBER, THIS IS EXTREMELY, *EXTREMELY* UNLIKELY TO HAPPEN TO YOU. YOU WILL, MOST INCREDIBLY LIKELY, NOT GET AN SSR LIKE THIS. I just wanted to share my luck because I was never this lucky in any other gacha game. Ever.
Wait a minute, something like this happened almost 2 years ago
honestly this game has a really good pity system for a gacha, allows f2p players to get what they need without any fear
this is just a theory.
if you pulled the limited character and banner goes off, the red gold will convert to black gold, right?
what if the banner weapon goes into the black gold shop? very unlikely but might be their reasoning to converting it
You have to get the weapon before you can buy it with black gold, but you will able to get the unit in the normal banner after the limited banner ends.
@@ellegt1392 wheres the confirmation on that?
The best thing in my opinion to do is to play with who you get from your pulls. Find ways to enjoy what you have because if you pine for a particular unit, and end up paying a whole heap of money, you'll end up regretting in the future. I got the SSR Molten Shield V2 and not knowing anything about the weapon, am enjoying learning how to play with it.
Or just play a a proper MMO without all the gambling bullshit.
Mtashed : "Dont go for limited unit,unless you can afford em" and Im gonna get em lmao!
Even tho it doesn’t have the guaranteed character pity, is still more forgiving than Genshin, because you only have to go halfway the second pity and buy it out
Mtashed thanks for making this video! Truly appreciate the time and energy you put into explaining how crucial it is to save your money etc. Especially in gacha games such as this. Don't wanna flex but I kinda did a 10 pull using my dark cryst and happened to get Nemesis-Venus from the banner!!! I am so STOKEDD!! I have no idea how that happened lol.
Well I’m “free-to-play” lucky to. If the story & characters are pretty good I might get this game to at some point. Is the storyline finished or ongoing like Genshin?
I used 180 black nucleus back to back and after all was said and done, I got 2 Tsubasa (SSR Bow) and 1 Samir (SSR Dual Pistols).
The next time I did it, I used 140 black nucleus back to back and after all was said and done, I got 1 Zero (SSR Cube).
Finally I used another 160 black nucleus back to back and after all was said and done, I got... nothing :)
This game seems pretty generous at the start for F2P, at least. I haven't spent a dime and I have a pretty good variety of simulacra/weapons.
A few of my SR weapons are maxed out and I have gotten a few stars on a couple of my SSR weapons. I haven't even gotten the SSR selector yet.
I've almost made 30 pulls on the limited banner, so I feel pretty confident I'll be able to hit the 80 mark before this banner period wraps up. Whether or not I actually get Nemesis or not is 50/50, as stated in the video, and I'll likely be stuck with zero stars for a while as F2P, but one thing is for certain; my luck with Tower of Fantasy has been considerably greater than my luck with Genshin Impact. Lol.
you should wait until you get 120 pulls for limited banner before pulling. otherwise you can't get limited character 100% before her banner ends. I have 29 pulls for now and I don't have faith I can get 120 red nucleus until Nemesis banner ends. of course, you can do whatever you want, especially if you going to spend money on this game. I'm not pulling until I'm sure I get limited SSR and duplicate (if I'm lucky and win 50/50 on 80 pulls) and my wishes don't get waisted once banner ends, because if I'm going to play it longer then 1-3 month, my plan is to do it f2p anyway.