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Thank you soooooo much.
I'm ordering parts today
Caleb - can I recommend 4 x 120mm fans in front (which your case supports), this will address some of the common airflow issues many encounter, as well as closing/taping off any gaps/holes next to fans so air can't recirculate from the inside... a "true through" of air rather than least resistance (often air already inside), that will help all the components.
thank you very much for the sharing ,I'm doing the exactly same thing following your instructions,but I have a question that does this hba card support 16T sas harddisk?
This is brilliant, thank you!
Thanks for your videos. subscribed) I think chia is a very interesting project. I have a question about CPU and RAM. On what characteristics should I watch when buying cpu and ram? Is it reasonable to buy the toppest ones?
Watched the video. Ordered the parts. Realizing this is harder than i thought
I bought this case and couldn't find anyone to clearly show how to get the drive trays in. Initially i thought i needed more of type B cages. Thanks to you, i just ordered all of them i could find on Amazon. 2 sets of 2. I just need 3 more sets.
A side note, you can mount 2 more hard drives at the top. If you choose to take the fans out, you can fit 3 more where the fans go. I'm leaving the fans in, but I'll have 2 at top. So 18 x 18tb in my case.
I do want to say thank you first,, for the complete set up.. I'm modifying this to fit my budget.. Bottom line what does this cost to build, how many chia are farmed
I thought I saw your video somewhere a few years ago. Now I remember. The SQL guy. Lol. Thank you for your videos during my CompSci courses.
Same! He helped us with our studies and maybe now he'll make us crypto millionaires 🤑 Thanks from me too!
Chia is the sleeping Giant nobody is talking about. They are building since many years and will deliver a usefull solution for many problems in crypto. The hype will come naturally. Congrats everybody who is in early. Dyor
how can you be early when you can't even buy Chia coins yet?
By farming them. This is what the video is about. Passiv income for supporting the blockchain of Bram Cohen, the inventor of BitTorrent.
@@rapha5440 It's feasable for me to buy some coins to invest in Chia, but not to buy and set up a PC with 70 hard drives. Btw how is this better than proof of stake? For proof of stake you don't even need the hard drives.
There are just a few ways of trying to solve the crypto trilemma but in the end PoS isnt the only or best solution. There are many aspects for a good project which go far behind tokenomics or consensus but that looks pretty good at Chia. Like every market you have to deliver a usefull product people need and are able to use.
Crypto projects out there are mostly hype and theory, this one is the opposite. But dont worry you can buy it in one month ;)
@@jamesevans2507 In proof of stake the people with the most coins just get the most new coins, so this automatically widens the equality gap over time. Here it is just about your own storage! It is really clever! and storage is storage it will not help to build some fancy storage in the way that this can be done with proof of work.
I'm in the process of building this exact set up thanks to this video! Love it! Thank you for doing it! The one speed bump I have ran into is the cord for the USB 3.1 gen 2 in the front I/o will not plug into the USB port on the motherboard. I've order a converter to make it work, but I was wondering if leaving it disconnected for now would be a problem for start up or not. Rookie here..thanks for any help!
You know quite a bit about tech all round, big respect for having understanding of your field of expertise.
By the way this video is very helpful for me because I don’t know how to solve the power supply problem about connecting a bunch of drives, this video is also useful for people trying to build their own nas, thank you.
Quick question tho, why have such expensive SSD's after you fully plot your 144TB? After you fully plot them the SSD's have no use anymore right? I just started and with profits i made in trading i bought a 500GB SSD for plotting and a 14TB HDD to store them on and farm with them.
Your build almost costs 7k$?
21:17 LOL the most important step. Great video dude :)
This is getting nuts. Soon there will be the need to pre order and wait months for al essential computer parts
Not only that, but Farming Chia burns out drives, and FAST. The e-waste this is going to generate is absolutely mind boggling. This is going to be a disaster. This ''brilliant idea'' is going to render hard drives disposable.
I keep saying this, but Crypto is very quickly spiraling into a resource wasting cancer infecting and destroying everything.
Next coin will use rams and fans, now your personal computer will have enterprise price
@@archingelus nah but you're not looking at the longetivity of this. Soon manufacturers will be able to overcome the demand of computer parts by scaling up their production. I don't think the availabilitu side will be affected, yeah but the toxic waste is something else
do you usually buy 18 tb drives for personal use?
for avoid vibration you must put rubber pad between trace and HDD not between screw and trace!
You should have put those rubber pads at 4:03 into the larger cutouts and then slide them into the proper mounting holes so you get a cushion on both sides. The way you did it, the HDD is in contact with the cage.
For those who wondering. It's slot 5 and 6 that becomes occupied when you using M2 disks. Slot 1 and 2 are closest to the RAM.
That's an awesome case! Got one last week. Soooo good!
Just got my first plot. it's mentioning it will take 16 years to have profit. I got a question, should I keep turn on my computer all the time? Once I got Chia coin, can I disconnect my HDD?
Stop farming chia on a pc that takes 16 years average lol, it’s not worth it
Excellent video. Makes a lot of good points that you don't think about at first.
The drink comment cracked me up. That’s something I would totally do and spill. I could see a RUclips comedy version of destroying builds be pretty successful.
Those A400s are fantastic. I have a couple I use for gaming and they are consistently fast.
I think you made an error with the rubber ''washer''.. You need to put the washers in first, so you have rubber between the drive and the bracket... There is a groove in the middle of the washer, so one half sits on the drive side and one half on the screw side. The way its fastened now is useless for dampening...
Yeah, I caught this too and I was kind of confused 😂
Love these vids! Would love a video on how to farm on multiple computers (i.e a main desktop and multiple old laptops sitting around the house). Also, how would this work if I can't fit more storage into my PC? Can I do external storage?
yes you can.
I'm thinking of setting up a chia miner for fun, but want to make the most out of my investment with a large NAS (likely a simple system running FREENAS) + independent systems per task use case. Ie. an Intel NUC for Chia, another for Arweave, another for filecoin, HTPC etc with a common network destination. What were the benefits of farming + destination on one system vs, turning your 360tb into a NAS?
You installed the HDD rubber grommets wrong, they are not screwed on, but they have a slit and inserted into the metal between the two, thats why tehre is a bigger hole near the screw-hole, that for the rubber to go in and then you push it into the small hole.
I thought no one except me noticed it
Thanks! I actually addressed this in a follow up video
With respect, and I appreciate that the situation was different when you did this video vs. the value of Chia and crypto in general today. The fact is, if anyone is watching, you cannot embark on a Chia farming journey buying any of this stuff. Yes, if you want an ROI in around 10 years, sure, buy new and fancy. I would advise that. Chia might pump. It might not. Who knows. I would recommend going as cheap as you possibly can. If an ROI is important then enjoy the video and the luxury that made sense when Chia was at a certain price. Go look up Chia value in April 2021. Big difference today. Great video though. I appreciate the tip about HBA heat. Not something I really thought about!
Yeah. I just sold a 14 tb WD external to a guy. He said he had a 1.2 petabyte farm and was only making $7 a day... Just the drives alone would have cost at least $20,000 Add a couple grand for the rest of the needed hardware and that's close to 10 years to break even.. unless chia rebounds from its lows... overall, the crypto price boom has been taking a long break.
@@rogerbarnett8412 Your example illustrates the problem. You also don't mention drive failure and replacement costs. The entire promised land is that whatever you acquired now, is worth something in the future and it will exceed what you invested into it. But think about that for a second. If the price of Chia goes to the moon, so will the difficulty and the inability to make any coin. You will need even more storage to try to keep pace, but if the value really goes up, keeping pace will almost be impossible. A lot of things could happen. Of course Chia has to sell promise. That's the only way they get people to farm.
For your U.2 drives you could use an x1-x16 riser keeping the m.2 slots available for dedicated m.2 storage.
Hi, great video and thank's a lot for your help and all your tips!!!
I just want to tell you that the motherboard you choose for your setup, the ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING is not maybe the best motherboard choice for your setup with the P4610 SSD drive.
You connect your two SSD drive P4610 with your M.2 to U.2 cable adaptators on one M.2 PCI-E4.0 slot and the second is a not a M.2 PCI-E4.0, it's a M.2 PCI-E3.0 slot !
This motherboard has only one M.2 PCI-E4.0 slot, the other one is a M.2 PCI-E3.0 slot.
So I think it can affect the data rates for the second SSD drive.
I order the same motherboard than you because of your video, but finally I decide to change this motherboard for the ASUS ROG STRIX X570-E GAMING who have two M.2 PCI-E4.0 slots and three PCI EXPRESS 4.0 16x slots.
Can you tell me also, if your M.2 to U.2 cable adaptators are PCIE GEN4.0 or GEN3.0?
Thank's a lot for your help, all your videos are great and it help me a lot to start with Chia!
you should have put some more thermal past a part from default heat sink past
Spends $10k on a super computer, doesn’t buy magnetic 🧲 screw driver (deal with it)
Thanks, Nice setup. I will be building exactly like this.
Hey man, I've binged watched all your videos. Amazing production quality and content. You're awesome!!! Btw, Amazon link to your store is broken kinda. I had to delete some random symbols in the URL after I clicked on it.
yay, i get to build a chia pet
Hi, thank you for the video.
Just wondering how much the whole thing cost? Thank you so much, and looking forward to your response
19:22 "Don't forget to put the sticker"
or your system will not even boot..
This is very critical to do, Guys..
Remember that..
:P :P :P
Why do we need to be worried about NVME durability since once you plot then it is done and the NVME doesn't need to do its job anymore apart from future plotting?
unless you have like 1000TB and can put 150-250 plots on line EVERY DAY You have zero chance of getting rewards - ZERO!!
98$ with over 40k $ for hard drive 1000 TB! How long is 1000 TB dead? Can't get enough for money refund I am done with CHIA !
What was the total cost and how many plots you can do per day withy your setup? I'm thinking about building one. Can you reply? Thanks:)
One question... what happens to the HDD when they are full? I mean... does the data last forever on my hdd? Do i have to keep them connected forever and build up a new system? Or are they moving after time away by itself?
Nice question
www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/7rodhf/disk_space_getting_full_on_mining_rig/?
@@tropkimol lol... im aware of eth mining. But the question is about chia!
4:05 Anyone else triggered that he didn't use the grommets correctly? lol.
This is good info, I'm liking the idea of HDD mining. I've got about $5k(just for the drives and extra RAM, I already have leftover PC components from previous builds) I'm going to use to start mining and I've been debating what to actually mine, CHIA looks interesting.
Edit: if you want to maximize the amount of HDD's, just use a small M.2 SSD for the operating system if your Mobo supports it. No power or sata cables needed. Also, if you want to use your PCI slots for the Intel drives, you can just use a Ryzen APU with integrated graphics.
Edit: Didn't realize the CPU was important for CHIA mining, I'm not sure if something like the 3400G would be enough. If not just ignore that...
Wouldnt it be cheaper and easer to buy a 12 bay NAS from Synology with a couple of R/W SSDs?
Hey Caleb. I know your very busy with all the stuff you do for community. I need a little help from you mate. I only asking because you did it. I have a good deal for 18 TB external harddrives but I don't want all the cables hanging. I am build the same machine you did in this video. My question is if I can use Seagate external drives as internal. I know you use WD external as internal but I read on a thread that you can't use anymore. There is some sort of Pin/power issue. Couldn't you please shed more light on this..... really waiting for your reply.
i thought i had not subscribed to the caleb channel until i saw coin breakthrough automatic subscription
Hi!, thanks for the video. But this build is way to expensive.. right?. What HD would you recommend for 8TB or so?. I don't need 18TB that´s insane 😂. And Why 64GB RAM for farming??. Isn't 16 GB Enough?
Wouldn't you be able to connect a monitor through a VGA, DVI or HDMI built on the motherboard? I'm confused. That would just save a pcie slot. Pretty sure the mb you got supports either of those if not all.
Before spending a cent on any new equipment, first check out the advanced tab at chiacalculator. The exponential growth of the network will make all this worthless in a few months. Unless you think the price of XCH will also grow exponentially, then equipment purchases like this will not pay for themselves. If you really believe XCH will grow exponentially, then buy XCH instead. You will probably have a much better chance of recovering some of your money than buying hard drives or NVMe drives.
how often you need to replot ? can you plot once and then just farm it indefinately ? or you have to constantly replot ?
Anyone know how to install the OS system in that Kingston hard drive that is used in the build?
I was expecting a tutorial on that as well.
Thanks in advance.
I've got a 3d printable 24 bay enclosure on my channel -- 24 3.5" hdds externally connected for 2 spools of filament or ~$40
this video was amazing, I'm gonna ask my dad if we can build this.
Thank you so much. I got everything connected perfectly except the case has a usb C front panel headers that have no place on the motherboard.
For those fiddly little screws that are hard to keep on the end of the screwdriver, just wipe the screwdriver shaft against a magnet. Bingo your screws stay on the screwdriver. To de-magnetize you simply strike the screw driver on any metal edge a couple of times (short sharp blows) and its back to normal again.
Nice job! but i like the bequiet dark base more:)
stupid question, can you put storage space on a GPU mining rig and add some extra ram and mine both Chia and Eth or whatever else you are mining?
Hello,
Is the speed of the drive important for digging chia? I want to make some tests and connect cheap external SSD + HDD to cheap laptop, but I don't know if it brings atleast the same amount of profit as cost. :D
To plot; yes. To farm, it doesn’t matter, but since you only start to make money when you farm, you want to plot as fast as possible.
Hi , I have been wondering how much your setup cost in total please.
Thank you for this video, I still haven’t figured this out hard drive mining as yet, I’m a gpu miner. In reality, with your build, how much Chia is it going to make?
Good. Now we haven't GPU's and HDD to buy anymore.
Hello great build , how many plots a day this build can do ?
Thanks
Thank you from South Africa ✌🏾
Hello fellow South African
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@@lingeshvirinmoonsamy8692 good afternoon Ftiend . Nice to see we have 2 SA people on here . Cheers
@@kumznaidoo773 yeah it's great to meet SA people into mining. Are you planning on mining Chia?
19:40 wait, no thermal paste on the Ryyzen??
It’s preamplied on the cooler
Is there a more cost effective build for new comers to the space? I am thinking of repurposing my old gaming pc, with a 16 port USB adapter. I will get 14 external hdd hard drives to store plots and 2 nvme external hard drives for temporary space.
I use thermal pad rated double sided tape for everything. Fans, ssds, m.2s, little heat sink blocks on m.2 is wicked as well as on the backplate of gpus
Thank u for the amazing build video.
Wow I just looked up all the parts to buy and come to an nice 10'000 USD... sheesh....I wonder how long I would need to run this to get even?
Not too long I bet
It's normally two years for hdd mining... asic mining is around 8 months
i;m thinking of keeping a 1tb m2 3600write speed for the plot
can you use multiple external hard drives for the farm?
does it make a difference if you have 1 8tb hard drive or 2 4tb hard drives for farming ?
Do the most important needed for chia is HDD and the memory RAM correct ?
can you please let us know what kind of cooling you did for the raid card? mine runs a bit hot at 77 degrees celsius and i have pretty much identical setup as in the video.
Everybody wants a fast temp drive but I have yet to see them being written to at more than 600MB/s
Have you tracked HDD Usage statistics from plot to farm yet?
can someone please tell me what this all costs in summary and what are the profits you make a month with this pc?
Wondering what profit per TB myself. I have alot to learn.
Thanks for this video, really appreciate it
Hi Caleb, is it possible to give us a hint about how much Chia per week you're making with this setup?
no
looks like a cool coin to mine. thanks
Thank you for doing all that work, this was a very good and informative video on how to build a Chia farming rig.
You should not put a MB on the outside of the anti static bag(only the inside is antistatic) if anything use the cardboard box.
He did also put rubber rings for HDDs on the wrong side too
What power supply do you use for powering 18 HDD ?
Thank you for a wonderful job, please allow me to ask you a question..those destination drives for farming, do you recommend pooling them instead of leaving them as individual drives?
Feels like a really real tech has arrived after the first real one: BTC. Storage improving on compute as a consensus mechanism. Hail Chia!
Thx for this video! Question i can mining ETH and same time CHIA on the same tower? thx
once you fill up your hard drives with plots you no longer need a plotter? do the plotted plots last forever?
I got a few questions. How is the best method to do plots? One by one? Only 1 at once? Or 2 or 3?
100/200/400/800 GB? As I see the most important thing is VERY FAST temp drive, yes?
I am planning to buy 2TB Evo 870 SSD. Is it good choice or not?
16 TB HDD or 8 TB also possible? Speed has meaning? (HDD)?
I did 1 famr but only 850 free nvMe disc. I choose to do 2x200 GB at once.
Thank you for amamzing movie.
Hi, celeb, can you please share how many plots it can create in parallel. I am a bit confused about buying 5900x or 3900x any thoughts?
hi, great video, did you need to arrange RAID to see all tb together to mine more power, mining as well as storing?
RAID is a waste of space on a CHIA farmer (miner) machine.
I think you may have mistakenly given a link to the 5V version of the small HBA cooling fan? All connections on the motherboard are 12V. Noctua does have a 12V version of this fan: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009NQLT0M?ref=ppx_pt2_dt_b_prod_image
Thanks so much for your efforts. It's been a great learning experience for me setting up my first farming rig!
Nice work man
What happens if one of the HD (1.8TB) breaks down? The plots contained in that HD get lost forever from my farm?
Have fun replacing the drives constantly as they burn out the ssds from constantly writing to them at 24gb per plot.
If i had 1 nvme for temporary and 1 hard disk for final dorectory for the first plotting, should i replotting it if i add one more hard disk or it will be automatically plotted as final directory from the nvme?
Can you make specific video for plotting please? 🙏
Small question: When you put the cooler on top of the CPU, shouldn't you use some "paste" between them? (the grey liquid stuff). thank you.
It already comes with enough applied to the base, the wraith coolers are great.
You may want to learn, on how to insert the rubber pads in the drive bays. Yep you did it wrong. push through the big hole, halfway through and move to the smaller hole. Having the rubber pads on one side push against the hard disk is kinda pointless :D
04:05 and 34:27
Nice Video, but it triggers my that you put the HDD rubber absorber just between the screw and the Cage. you can slide the rubber things "into the Tray" so the rubber ist on both sides from that (to the HDD and to the screw)!
Chinese people always find a way to sell their products. When western countries were trying to use fewer Chinese products, they came up with Chia. Well done.
is there any reason not to use External hdds? like a seagate 18TB external drive? would love to get an answer on this.
So much much does it produce per hour? Can't seem to find that answer
Do you think the prism wraith cpu Cooler you used is good for the cpu?? Do you think it will over heat! I am using a ryzen 9 3900x?? What do you recommend
Great video. Thank you so much. Is there any way you can name and list each item in the order of your video with your affiliate Amazon link. I can't even take notes because you're going too fast and not really naming each product. I want to be able to support you through your links. Thank you and peace!
what kind of power supply do you need for a build like this? 350-500w?
With Chia it takes forever to finish a plot. A lot of electricity is used for plotting. With Burst / BHD, plotting is a lot faster and therefore more energy-saving (with the same CPU and RAM performance) and therefore, in my opinion, more environmentally friendly
Is there any benefit to having more threads available? Would a 5900x or 5950x process plots more quickly?
Severe overkill.
I have an older SuperMicro server running 72 drives, mostly 14GB with a few 10 and 12, using a SINGLE E5-2695 on Gigabyte C4 compressed plots without issues.
It WAS a little marginal running that many C5 compression plots with the single CPU, but the second socket in the machine was borked and unusable.
5950x (which I have in my just-built gaming rig) would be significantly faster, as it's several generations newer, MUCH higher clock speed, DDR4 RAM instead of 3, and 4 more cores (8 more threads) - for a LOT fewer plots.
Hot Tip: you can buy these tiny magnets at Home Depot and stick em to the shaft of whatever screw driver and magnetize the whole thing.
oh yeah and you can move em up and down the shaft for proximity to the screw to adjust the stick strength. They are quite strong.
Hey @coinbreakthrough. Does your computer turn off at any point in time? Like how often?
Are there not Enterprise/Data Center M.2 Drives?