I enjoy your program gents! Surely one of the main criteria for a GOAT is that the player must have won a World Cup! I agree Farrell is an amazing player, but rather one of the best English Players. not a GOAT!
Saracens are the most hated club by a long chalk, Leicester up there with Bath. But that’s old skool. Bristol buying success. Quins don’t really figure TBH
By winning it all I take it you mean a RWC ? The RWC is won by teams not individual players. Being part or World Cup team does not make the player the best that is a ridiculous thing to say. There are plenty of arguably world class players who play in teams that will never win a RWC. That hardly diminishes their greatness.I’m not suggesting that OF is a goat but if he had played for the Boks you would be claiming he was
@@patrickchilds2987 Players should be ranked on how high their peak was, their longevity as the best, their achievements and their personal accolades. He fits neither of those categories to the same extent as other players. Don't assume what I meant and just go on a tangent, waffling.
I know Ryan is probably not on the Christmas card list, but do you have opponents where you’ve ended up enjoying the contests with and become friends off the field?
How is winning a RWC , a team award the primary basis of evaluating a players goat status 😂 What about world class players who play in teams that won’t ever win the RWC missed their opportunity through injury. Jonah Lomu, Michael Hooper, Christian Cullen, Jerry Collins, Thierry Dussatoir, Joe van Nekerk, Doug Howlett, Brian ODriscoll, Paul OConnell, Shane Williams, AWJ, any player from Samoa or Fiji. Many of these players and yes including Farrell deserve to be in the conversation.
Nice chat, but big ‘happy clappies’ when guests are introduced, ‘GOAT’. It’s too American for me. Oh, and Owen Farrell?😂😂😂. Apart from that, wonderful.
Owen Farrell? The GOAT of rugby? 😂🤣😂🤣😂 so you rank him higher than McCaw, Eales, Carter, Wilkinson, Lomu, Matfield, JPR Williams, etc.? Give your head wobble!
What has winning a RWC got to do with a player being a goat . Winning a RWCs is a team accomplishment not an individual. Jonah Lomu never won a RWC, are you suggesting he isn’t a goat 😂
Owen Farrell? WTF ??? What is this dude on ? The question was Rugby GOAT. Not rugby's scape goat. (I personally feel that OF, was treated harshly by ruggas in England) But he aint no way a ruggas GOAT contender.
Man said “Owen Farrell should be in the GOAT conversation” 🤣🤣🤣 yeah nice joke buddy if Owen Farrell is near a GOAT conversation then the game of rugby is DEAD. Seriously man Owen Farrell 😭😭 he wouldn’t even make an all-time top 10 All Blacks or Springboks list 😂😂😂
What about all the other things he's won? Club trophies? Six nations? What about his leadership? His captaincy of both sarecens and england? Second highest point scorer of all time?
@DinDjarin914 what about the players that only have a world cup but nothing else? Can you be considered the GOAT if ALL you did was perform really well in 1 world cup but scored barely any points, never won the six nations/rugby championship, never win any club trophies, and weren't respected by other players? Owen farrel has achieved more in his career than most players. The large majority of world cup winners never had a career as successful as farrel. It's a shame he hasn't won a world cup, and the chance of him winning one now is extremely low, but just because he hasn't won a world cup that doesn't mean he hasn't achieved anything. Christiano ronaldo for example has never won a football world cup, but is considered around the world to be one of if not the best player of all time. That's because of all the other things he's achieved. Things that on an individual level, could be co sidered even more important/impressive than any world cup will ever be, similar to owen farrel
@@AbeHopwood Firstly, the Ronaldo example is dumb, club football is a higher level than International. Real Madrid destroy any international team for example. That’s not the case in rugby. Secondly, you said “what about players who have only won 1 World Cup?”. That’s completely pointless, no one said that every World Cup winner is better than every non-World Cup winner all time. We’re talking about the likes of McCaw, Carter, are you saying they’ve only won a World Cup? Who are these goats that have only won 1 World Cup as you put it? Also, the Six Nations was never as high level as the Rugby Championship until probably the last few years, the same for the Champions Cup and Premiership, Super Rugby was always the pinnacle of club rugby. Now it’s the Champions Cup. But even the South African teams don’t even care about it and play their second teams, so even winning the Champions Cup doesn’t matter. The other thing with club rugby, is the dominant Saracens team, or Toulouse always just had a full international teams because they were spending double anyone else. The way club rugby works in Europe, teams only play the top players for like half the games because the schedule is so dumb.
Owen Farrell……. lol. Good one, had me laughing for ages!!
Every player he's played with or against, every coach seems to think so. Every referee admires him.
How many caps do you have?
Jamie is a great bloke. Great rugby player too. Respect from South Africa
Owen Farrell 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 .. I think the concussions are taking their toll
Some good laughter there with the Farrell take😂😂😂😂
None of which from those who've ever met him.
Duane is a machine. Good show boys
Ohh GOD 😮Thank you Rassie you did the world a favor imagine how serious this Owen conversation would be🙏🏿
Owen Farrell 😂😂😂😂😂😂
would be great if you could get this on audio platforms like apple podcasts or Spotify
Hahaha no man Jamie…. Owen Farrell? Dreaming mate
Admire that he’s supporting his mate but yeah… when you consider the players you could choose from it wouldn’t be my first pick
Got me fucking crying 4 minutes in
Owen Farrel.. best joke of the year.. i like this guys humor.😅😅😅
Danny and Jamie (Ant + Dec), what a bromance ❤, looking forward to the book Danny 😁🏴
Danny Care.;. Underrated , nuggety and dependable...fm Capetown.
Owen Farrel😂😂😂😂😂 what else is there to watch
Owen Farrell 😂😅😂.
Great show Guys, thank you!! Rugby's GOAT without a World Cup, not sure about that?? As great a player as he is!!
Owen Farrell for GOAT?🤣 6 Prem 3 European that’s it?🤣🤣 ok
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Thanks.
Thank you
Lol Owen Farrel. I used to wish they would pick Farrel when they played us just coz you know he is gonna make the game easier for us. 😂
Great show gents!
Great video Dan keep it up
Loving the show Danny, when’s Faz coming on….? 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I enjoy your program gents! Surely one of the main criteria for a GOAT is that the player must have won a World Cup! I agree Farrell is an amazing player, but rather one of the best English Players. not a GOAT!
True gent
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Also u got an absolute goat on the podcast cant wait to see what other legends u bring on can Danny care like this comment
thank you so much
I think we need to get these Exeter lads on to explain themselves DC 😂
Lol!!! only one Northen Hemisphere Flyhalf has won the RWC and six nations titles and Lions Tours... but Farrell is the G.O.A.T😂😂😂
Great podcast again Danny ❤
Could swear there was an English 10 who won a WC and Euro Cup a couple of decades back….Jonny Wilkinson mean anything to you Jamie?
Class podcast
GOAT Jomo Lomo
Ever day of the week and twice on a Sunday.
Farrel😂 check out this chap for CTE.
I will say Farrel is the goat of being a dirty player
See Duane, click on it… hear Owen Farrel as the goat. Cheers, I’m off
no one tougher than a one legged world cup champion allblack capt Sir richie mccore
Saracens are the most hated club by a long chalk, Leicester up there with Bath. But that’s old skool. Bristol buying success. Quins don’t really figure TBH
"What he's won, what he's done in the game" yeah that shouldn't be a justification in comparison to other rugby greats who actually won it all
By winning it all I take it you mean a RWC ? The RWC is won by teams not individual players. Being part or World Cup team does not make the player the best that is a ridiculous thing to say. There are plenty of arguably world class players who play in teams that will never win a RWC. That hardly diminishes their greatness.I’m not suggesting that OF is a goat but if he had played for the Boks you would be claiming he was
@@patrickchilds2987 Players should be ranked on how high their peak was, their longevity as the best, their achievements and their personal accolades. He fits neither of those categories to the same extent as other players. Don't assume what I meant and just go on a tangent, waffling.
Owen Farrell lol😂😅😂.....
You have to stop asking players who the goat is.... You should just tell them lol
GET OFF THE GEAR!!! PRONTO!!!!
Dan Carter? Nope Owen Farrel.
😂😂😂😂
@@cornedevenier3898 lol - epic faux pax by George….. what planet is he on????
Carter can’t defend tho. Not like Jonny and Faz
Ryan Wilson the hardest player? 🎣
I know Ryan is probably not on the Christmas card list, but do you have opponents where you’ve ended up enjoying the contests with and become friends off the field?
Two minutes in he say's Owen Farrell must be in the conversation for rugby's goat. Time to stop watching.
Pasty Jamie George 😂
OWEN FARRELL? Hahahahaha
Class 👌🏾
No ways is farrell a goat, not even close
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what has he won😄
Farrel, please! He never won a World Cup.
True but neither did the actual GOAT : Big Jonah RIP
How is winning a RWC , a team award the primary basis of evaluating a players goat status 😂
What about world class players who play in teams that won’t ever win the RWC missed their opportunity through injury.
Jonah Lomu, Michael Hooper, Christian Cullen, Jerry Collins, Thierry Dussatoir, Joe van Nekerk, Doug Howlett, Brian ODriscoll, Paul OConnell, Shane Williams, AWJ, any player from Samoa or Fiji. Many of these players and yes including Farrell deserve to be in the conversation.
Owen Farrell?
Nice chat, but big ‘happy clappies’ when guests are introduced, ‘GOAT’. It’s too American for me. Oh, and Owen Farrell?😂😂😂. Apart from that, wonderful.
What ? No arms !
Joe marler 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Owen Farrell? The GOAT of rugby? 😂🤣😂🤣😂 so you rank him higher than McCaw, Eales, Carter, Wilkinson, Lomu, Matfield, JPR Williams, etc.? Give your head wobble!
😂😂😂😂😂. Owen Farrell ain't no G.O.A.T. fam. He's won far less than other players if thats what you are basing it on George.
Farrell weighed down by all those WC medals,😂😂😂😂😂 , 🤡 . Batter with shoilder illegal, yes he is good at that
Owen Farrell 🐐😂😂😂😂what are you smoking 😂😂😂 Owen Farrell 🐵😂😂😂😂😂
Owen Farrel? I'm out
So winning world cups means nothing clearly
What has winning a RWC got to do with a player being a goat . Winning a RWCs is a team accomplishment not an individual. Jonah Lomu never won a RWC, are you suggesting he isn’t a goat 😂
Owen Farrell? WTF ??? What is this dude on ? The question was Rugby GOAT. Not rugby's scape goat. (I personally feel that OF, was treated harshly by ruggas in England) But he aint no way a ruggas GOAT contender.
Man said “Owen Farrell should be in the GOAT conversation” 🤣🤣🤣 yeah nice joke buddy if Owen Farrell is near a GOAT conversation then the game of rugby is DEAD. Seriously man Owen Farrell 😭😭 he wouldn’t even make an all-time top 10 All Blacks or Springboks list 😂😂😂
Lmao ... Owen Farrel? your standards for GOAT is pretty low.
Wilkinson is better than Pharell. He won a world cup. Heck Martin Johnson is better than him as a leader
Owen Farrell 🤣🤣 let's look at what his won - zero world cups
What about all the other things he's won? Club trophies? Six nations? What about his leadership? His captaincy of both sarecens and england? Second highest point scorer of all time?
@@AbeHopwood world cup is the pinnacle. He has zero
@DinDjarin914 what about the players that only have a world cup but nothing else? Can you be considered the GOAT if ALL you did was perform really well in 1 world cup but scored barely any points, never won the six nations/rugby championship, never win any club trophies, and weren't respected by other players?
Owen farrel has achieved more in his career than most players. The large majority of world cup winners never had a career as successful as farrel. It's a shame he hasn't won a world cup, and the chance of him winning one now is extremely low, but just because he hasn't won a world cup that doesn't mean he hasn't achieved anything.
Christiano ronaldo for example has never won a football world cup, but is considered around the world to be one of if not the best player of all time. That's because of all the other things he's achieved. Things that on an individual level, could be co sidered even more important/impressive than any world cup will ever be, similar to owen farrel
Jonah Lomu, Christian Cullen, Gareth Edwards, David Pocock, Philippe Saint-André, Dupont...it's such a crap argument
@@AbeHopwood Firstly, the Ronaldo example is dumb, club football is a higher level than International. Real Madrid destroy any international team for example. That’s not the case in rugby.
Secondly, you said “what about players who have only won 1 World Cup?”. That’s completely pointless, no one said that every World Cup winner is better than every non-World Cup winner all time. We’re talking about the likes of McCaw, Carter, are you saying they’ve only won a World Cup? Who are these goats that have only won 1 World Cup as you put it?
Also, the Six Nations was never as high level as the Rugby Championship until probably the last few years, the same for the Champions Cup and Premiership, Super Rugby was always the pinnacle of club rugby. Now it’s the Champions Cup. But even the South African teams don’t even care about it and play their second teams, so even winning the Champions Cup doesn’t matter. The other thing with club rugby, is the dominant Saracens team, or Toulouse always just had a full international teams because they were spending double anyone else. The way club rugby works in Europe, teams only play the top players for like half the games because the schedule is so dumb.
What a joke