My grandfather was a firefighter. He passed away 20 years ago. But I'm still catching myself watching the big red engines driving by with a childlike admiration.
As an Australian young man myself born in 1998 from Lakemba, New South Wales, Australia I really look up to firefighters the men and women who work extremely hard to aid & rescue people in danger whether they are boys, girls, men & women. They even save animals which is very sweet. Firefighters are truly incredible human beings because they are so courageous and so selfless. To me they will always be my heroes. As human beings we should all follow the three principles of life compassion, empathy and love to have a more perfect union. 👍🏾 🚒
Hey Mate, so nice to see this. I love being a Fireman, giving back to the community is the best feeling in the world. I'm in Sydney at least once a year, wife is from there, happy to bring some Tee Shirts from my crew for you.
I've always respected the firefighters, and it's an honor to see the fire scene and the crackdown process like this. I feel that the world is beautiful because there are firefighters who think of dangerous things as their own. Thanks a lot.
I am a firefighter and I got nervous when the alpha attack was masking up under heavy black smoke had no helmet under the structure and then seconds over a rollover gives you goosebumps. He got very lucky 10 seconds later and he risked burns to his head.
I though the same. At 1:35 to 1:45 you can see firefighters inside the burning structure even though the building is obviously lost. A safety distance is kept at no point and a firefighter is almost hit by debris. I found this unit took unnecessary risks.
Couldn’t agree more. No thought to using the reach of the line and every once of fire can be reached on a shotgun house from the windows along the side. This is simply demonstration of normalization of deviance. We train to go through the door, so every time we are presented with an issue, we go through the door. Action without thought. I’m not being overly critical, I’ve done the same myself, many times. We just need to do better and learn what FSRI has taught us.
It is a shame because they have a tower ladder that was sitting doing nothing instead of using it to spray water from the roof to the the ground. I bet they would put that fire out way quicker
4th week in the fire academy here in Houston, watched this video and definitely noticed a few things off and I'm green in this field. Glad I saw this for certain things not to do but also still respect and appreciate these people for what they do
Why set up a roof ladder, when the fire has self ventilated to 80% of the roof? The spontanious smoke ignition was awesome, I just can not figure out why only one guy was properly suited up.
That firefighter was going on training instinct. However for a unresponsive patient before you put on a blood pressure cuff you wanna check for a pulse first. This guy went straight for the blood pressure cuff.
I know its LAFD and they fight a lot of fire, but that was an absolute cluster at the front door. The FF stretching the line dumped it at the front gate, then got directed (by a truck FF no less) to move around the side (where he again dumped it, then was directed to the front door. When they finally started the attack, it was a Captain on the nozzle and the FF who stretched the line was still putting on his gloves and ended up three guys back from the nozzle. Had to be a probie.
I’m retired from LA County and there isn’t anyone that is going to jump on City’s case it’s going to be me. That being said, the guy that took the nozzle after the flashover was not just correct but a Captain. He did so because flashover can happen back to back and the second is always worse. X pattern to the roof of the fire will cool the gases and make better conditions for entry! The guy that was on the nozzle and came out? Not sure why he came out but look closely he had a glove on!
@@bondservantministriesinc.672 We aren’t talking about me, this both la and la county have absolute horrible fireground tactics and command structure, this fire was a very small home. Yet they made it into a chaotic situation that it didn’t need to be. Dumping hose in the front door, running around in a panic, no order from the chief as far as keeping everyone together. You guys couldn’t put a fire out if you all stood around it and urinated on it…..
The other just yesterday we drove past a house that was being put out by firefighters and today we drive past it. Completely demolished I am so sad that the people have to go through that
That was an unexpected move by the LAFD, and a little dangerous. You never open a ventilation point until you have a hose ready and charged. You could see the massive amount of black smoke coming out which indicates a superheated oxygen devoid fire room. That was a flashover as all that black smoke ignited upon introduction of oxygen. Anyway I feel bad for the family's loss assuming this wasn't a vacant house. My prayers go out to them.
Not always depends on the set up. Like I live in Southern California in a neighborhood like this and our apartment has bars which are on hinges and there’s a big release lever on the wall in the bedrooms and when you pull it the bars swing off like a door and you can get out the window
Why are they never ready to fight fires? They never have there face pieces on until they are on the porch or near the doors, they open a door and don't have the water ready and that one guy his suspenders were around his waist? Just what I've noticed
I always ask that especially with the new style SCBA's........... 20 years ago I rode/ worked a lot of shifts with Detroit FD and they used old style Scott Packs which once you masked up, you had to be on air, so they waited until they were on the porch to mask up. Now days a mask can be on, and just plug the regulator in before going in. Kills me to see guys getting off custom chassis engines still putting on coats, hanging packs. 🤦♂️ My guys get off the engine masked up, tool in hand if not the one stretching a line to the door.
I'm curious about how these firefighters thought those window fences, 3" apart, would avoid a stream reaching the fire... Also curious about why they didn´t put a stream through the windows...
0:37 Nice Flashover... But what I don´t understand is : The Building is complete Burning, and why then the Risk of a Interior Attack ? There is in my Opinion absolut no reason for this. They could normaly get the Fire from outside without any Problems, the Windows are destroyed, so the could put enough Water on the Fire. The Risk is visible ,when a Part from the Roof fell down (2:55 min. ) and nearly hit 3 Firefighter. Here in Germany we learn on Rules at First: At a Fire stay out of the "drop shadow" of a burning Building. You can´t know who stable a Wall is. I think the Captain here goes on a unnecessary Risk for his Man.
It's simple thing are done differently here in the USA. Large departments with a lot of resources tend to use older tactics. Departments with less resources will use transitional attacks.
@@sebrassino Just because you disagree with the tactics it doesn't always make them stupid. And what level of risk is taken is different around the world. Now would I have chosen those tactics? No I would have used a transitional attack. But that is how it's done by the LA City FD . That's the they have been doing things for years and it works for them.
@@j81870 dude... Doing things for years. It's change that makes you better. Learn and practice newer tactics. Putting lives at risk due to poor training of a commander and then the excuse of this how they do it for years. That's no excuse. You always have to look for improvement. Working more efficiently. Practice basic procedures so they becpme a habit. The level of risk is taken is to high and could be easily avoided by simple changes. There widespread available yet the pride of some people that think knowing it better is standing in its way.
@@sebrassino Poor training are you kidding me. You act like they are some underfund, untrained brand new Volunteer Fire Department. So if you don't like how they do things in LA City than stay out of LA. No need to bash them since it's obvious you don't understand how thing works in LA City FD .
If any of my guys were ever that close to a fully engaged structure and not on full scba there would be serious repercussions. Unacceptable when there was no way humans were alive in that structure. The CO needs to insure he is sending all firefighters home alive.
0:40 This is what happens when the smoke ignites once it meets the fresh air from outside. The oxygen levels inside the house are most likely too low to allow combustion, but the unburned fuel is still very hot.
@@andyoxleyonhistravels Still growing? Nah, at this point it already flashed over, spread to other rooms and vented through the windows. Whatever fresh air comes inside is used up pretty quickly.
@@TheWaynelds No it's flashed over in the back part and the flammable gases in the front have then flashed. Trust me I know. Please tell me you ain't a career firefighter ?
@@HB-yq8gy exactly. That’s why ladders go up and bars are removed…obviously this home is a loss, but better to do it and not need it versus worst case…
build was a burn to ground. save the trash. have some fun. but, they needed to get more ventilation so it would not flash over like it was. Black you jacked. you see black going back into the building like that you need to vent and cool at the exact same time. it wanted oxygen badly. and do what ever it needed. it had the Heat and it had the fuel already building up. when you vent to are allowing 3 thinks to happen. oxygen to move into the fire. heat and unburden vapor fuel to move out if roof venting.
@@Master-ls2op it was already ventilated by the fire, windows blown out, fire coming out if the roof, probably why the decided not to go on the roof and vent.
read the smoke it was not vented. Black smoke is fuel and can easily flash all it needs to do is get in the correct ratio of oxygen, fuel, to heat and boom. that smoke is dark gray-black. with a nice aggressive rollback. don't know what the full options are but removing bars and getting clear airflow low and high will help keep the heat low and protect the exposures.
@@brysonstringer183 it’s important to account the fact how easy the rush of a working fire can make you forget simple tasks. You can do bunk up drills and mask up drills all day everyday. When the tone drops, there will still be mess ups. They must keep training until it’s near impossible to miss the simple things.
@@martiam451 maybe so in a volunteer dept, but in a career dept that runs fires daily, certain things ( should) become 2nd nature, like getting your gear on right, especially suspenders so his pants didn't come down after they get wet.
RULE OF THUMB...if anybody cares out there. NEVER, NEVER go into any structure WITHOUT a CHARGED LINE. The Hot Dog on the porch before the Flashover could have become dinner.
What about search for a known life hazard before a line is in place and operating? Are you really going to wait for a line to start your search? I am not talking about this particular case, but when you start using "Never" you limit your ability to do our job of saving lives...
Well, at least they saved the foundation and front step. This should be a training film on what not to do. You don't need those bars off the windows, you can squirt water through them and you aren't going to use the window to enter the building anyway. 0:35 Do you really intend to climb that ladder onto the roof? Really? YOU are an idiot. 0:39 Thick black smoke. What could possibly go wrong? Maybe a "roll over" about to happen? 0:40 Yep. 2:58 This fire is what's known as "a loser". Fight it through the windows and try to keep the exterior walls from falling because if they do, the building next door is in real jeopardy. Here's a thought, you have a million dollar aerial truck sitting there...maybe use it to get above the fire.
Have to be able to think beyond motor memory. WHY is there being a ladder set up for a fully involved roof that has vented? Too many people in a small space.
Theres a lack of water being applied to the fire.The House is lost and so is any life in there.Remove your B.A. if its not needed.Cutting of railings is unnecessary when you have doors open. wear your Fire kit properly. Alot of firefighters at that fire doing very little. Don't forget your Health and Safety.
@@Cheesecake99YearsAgo Correction, it is not to be confused with backdraft, which is what occurred here. Flashover is when a high concentration of smoke pushes itself out of a space under a roof and pushes fresh air in to create a convection current that allows heat from the smoke to radiate down and ignite fuels underneath that the initial fire cannot reach. Backdraft is when there is limited to no air intake into the space, which would normally smother out the flames, but there still exists high amounts of heat and fuels inside. Once air is suddenly let in, which is what happened in the first when the firefighters opened the front door, combustion can restart itself and ignite the smoke. The smoke can only be ignited under a very specific concentration (which is not known), so a backdraft is very unpredictable and may not immediately occur when oxygen is let into the room. So that firefighter next to the doorway is lucky to not have been directly in front of the door at the wrong time.
There was a fire here in my complex last night… on Christmas out of everyday. 1 house fire spread to 4 units and completely destroyed everything. It’s absolutely terrifying to see this shit in real life.
Yeah they love smashing windows and making holes to stoke up the fire. Then stand around watching it burn for a bit. If you're lucky they might put some water on when it's well involved.
One firefighter wearing his bunker gear not correctly with his suspenders not on him but instead are hanging down from his jacket as a former volunteer firefighter If I was the officer and saw that I would pull him aside and say wear your gear properly I won't be putting him into the LDH until he gets his gear on properly
I'm a UK firefighter in the West Midlands. Why does nobody spray water into the building??? Genuine question. Such a weird way of fighting fire. No water sprayed at all.
Some of that seemed like it would be unnecessary. I don't understand the point of going to the extremes of some of these procedures. The house was already a loss.
Gonna use electric saws, just like their electric fire trucks I've heard talk about. Hopefully the trucks come with solar panels they can put up to keep the batteries charged while the bldgs burn down. 🤷♂️
Risk a lot to save a lot, risk a little to save a little, risk nothing to save nothing. Lots of risk going on here with a fully involved house with nothing to save
@@michaelfreeze2949 In fairness Michael I think the stats this year include many covid related deaths. That said the amount of firefighters killed and seriously injured in fires and vehicle accidents involving firetrucks over there is far too high.
There is no reason to cut out window bars.. its a defensive operation. Change your tactics and objectives. also there are to many firefighters on scene walking around. They can be useful by protecting exposures.
If this was a smaller S. Cal FD, It would be handled better than LA City with too many boots that don't do any meaningful work.... Three-3-man Eng Companies and one 4-man truck could have done this job more effectively
I was a firefighter as well and I can tell you they missed all of the signs of a backdraft and or flashover right in front of their faces these firefighters look like that no idea what they were doing this building is all but gone they're better off to protect the two structures on the sides
My grandfather was a firefighter. He passed away 20 years ago. But I'm still catching myself watching the big red engines driving by with a childlike admiration.
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He was a legend. Rest in piece
@@DL4W221 yeah, forty years of the service, from his first to his last siren. Thank you.
@@dimaleoniv7987I just realized I spelled something wrong I am very sorry. I meant to say rest in peace 😔
this is so sweet. may he rest in peace 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
As an Australian young man myself born in 1998 from Lakemba, New South Wales, Australia I really look up to firefighters the men and women who work extremely hard to aid & rescue people in danger whether they are boys, girls, men & women. They even save animals which is very sweet. Firefighters are truly incredible human beings because they are so courageous and so selfless. To me they will always be my heroes. As human beings we should all follow the three principles of life compassion, empathy and love to have a more perfect union. 👍🏾 🚒
Hey Mate, so nice to see this. I love being a Fireman, giving back to the community is the best feeling in the world. I'm in Sydney at least once a year, wife is from there, happy to bring some Tee Shirts from my crew for you.
You couldn't have said it better. I plan on being a firefighter when I grow up!
@@wesrobinson7366 Thanks mate I really appreciate it and take care of yourself.
@@valeriehines4642 I hope you do and we need to teach the younger generation to look up to firefighters.
@@valeriehines4642 If you live in a town with a volunteer force you can join early.
I've always respected the firefighters, and it's an honor to see the fire scene and the crackdown process like this. I feel that the world is beautiful because there are firefighters who think of dangerous things as their own. Thanks a lot.
Yeah big salute and respect to them! 🫡
Wow.....I mean LA City is usually on the ball but this was brutal to watch!
Definitely!
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Agree I’m surprised. We can all learn from it though so respect for putting it up
Random people on youtube always know better than any professional in any situation.
I am a firefighter and I got nervous when the alpha attack was masking up under heavy black smoke had no helmet under the structure and then seconds over a rollover gives you goosebumps. He got very lucky 10 seconds later and he risked burns to his head.
I though the same. At 1:35 to 1:45 you can see firefighters inside the burning structure even though the building is obviously lost. A safety distance is kept at no point and a firefighter is almost hit by debris. I found this unit took unnecessary risks.
Couldn’t agree more. No thought to using the reach of the line and every once of fire can be reached on a shotgun house from the windows along the side. This is simply demonstration of normalization of deviance. We train to go through the door, so every time we are presented with an issue, we go through the door. Action without thought. I’m not being overly critical, I’ve done the same myself, many times. We just need to do better and learn what FSRI has taught us.
It is a shame because they have a tower ladder that was sitting doing nothing instead of using it to spray water from the roof to the the ground. I bet they would put that fire out way quicker
4th week in the fire academy here in Houston, watched this video and definitely noticed a few things off and I'm green in this field. Glad I saw this for certain things not to do but also still respect and appreciate these people for what they do
Good job, firefighters-and apparently no one hurt? Thank heavens!
And thanks to ONSCENE reporters for bringing us news that no one else will. 💚
@Ola laa Aren’t you lucky not to be here, then?
@@recynd77 Lucky not to be here?
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Why set up a roof ladder, when the fire has self ventilated to 80% of the roof?
The spontanious smoke ignition was awesome, I just can not figure out why only one guy was properly suited up.
What do you expect it’s in LA.
Just bloody stupid, get on and do other stuff when a ladder is of no use.
That firefighter was going on training instinct. However for a unresponsive patient before you put on a blood pressure cuff you wanna check for a pulse first. This guy went straight for the blood pressure cuff.
@@john-martin No it's pretty obvious you don't need a ladder. Just wasted time.
@@andyoxleyonhistravels Comment went way over your head i see
I know its LAFD and they fight a lot of fire, but that was an absolute cluster at the front door. The FF stretching the line dumped it at the front gate, then got directed (by a truck FF no less) to move around the side (where he again dumped it, then was directed to the front door. When they finally started the attack, it was a Captain on the nozzle and the FF who stretched the line was still putting on his gloves and ended up three guys back from the nozzle. Had to be a probie.
I’m retired from LA County and there isn’t anyone that is going to jump on City’s case it’s going to be me. That being said, the guy that took the nozzle after the flashover was not just correct but a Captain. He did so because flashover can happen back to back and the second is always worse. X pattern to the roof of the fire will cool the gases and make better conditions for entry! The guy that was on the nozzle and came out? Not sure why he came out but look closely he had a glove on!
The entire show was a cluster!!!!!!
@@bondservantministriesinc.672 LAFD and LA County FD Sucks!!!! Absolute horrible departments and operational tactics!!!!!
@@NguageTrains and what department do you work for?
@@bondservantministriesinc.672 We aren’t talking about me, this both la and la county have absolute horrible fireground tactics and command structure, this fire was a very small home. Yet they made it into a chaotic situation that it didn’t need to be. Dumping hose in the front door, running around in a panic, no order from the chief as far as keeping everyone together. You guys couldn’t put a fire out if you all stood around it and urinated on it…..
Why do an interior attack on this? It has flashed, nobody is alive in there. Unnecessary risk.
Who else knew the side of the roof was going to fall but they carelessly stood under it? Then it ended up almost taking dude out 😑
They should dispatch you and your BarcaLounger to all fire calls. They can set up your chair on the front lawn and you can bark out advice.
The other just yesterday we drove past a house that was being put out by firefighters and today we drive past it. Completely demolished I am so sad that the people have to go through that
Huge respect to these firefighters and all the other firefighters around the world♡
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Im a fire fighter in Australia and fighting fires can be rough, tough and scary. But it is always rewarding.
Nothing shows more bravery and courage than a firefighter.
All I see them putting their life risk for no reason. The building can collapse 😅
If a safety officer was anywhere near the scene of this fire his pen would be out of ink.
That was an unexpected move by the LAFD, and a little dangerous. You never open a ventilation point until you have a hose ready and charged. You could see the massive amount of black smoke coming out which indicates a superheated oxygen devoid fire room. That was a flashover as all that black smoke ignited upon introduction of oxygen. Anyway I feel bad for the family's loss assuming this wasn't a vacant house. My prayers go out to them.
I was thinking the same exact thing I saw that black smoke and immediately after a flash over happened
Bars on the windows may deter burglars, but in the event of a fire..you’re SCREWED!
They didn't even need to cut the bars.. they could just break the glass and shoot water through the window...
Not always depends on the set up. Like I live in Southern California in a neighborhood like this and our apartment has bars which are on hinges and there’s a big release lever on the wall in the bedrooms and when you pull it the bars swing off like a door and you can get out the window
Why are they never ready to fight fires? They never have there face pieces on until they are on the porch or near the doors, they open a door and don't have the water ready and that one guy his suspenders were around his waist? Just what I've noticed
I always ask that especially with the new style SCBA's........... 20 years ago I rode/ worked a lot of shifts with Detroit FD and they used old style Scott Packs which once you masked up, you had to be on air, so they waited until they were on the porch to mask up. Now days a mask can be on, and just plug the regulator in before going in. Kills me to see guys getting off custom chassis engines still putting on coats, hanging packs. 🤦♂️ My guys get off the engine masked up, tool in hand if not the one stretching a line to the door.
That house was gone before they even started .
I'm curious about how these firefighters thought those window fences, 3" apart, would avoid a stream reaching the fire...
Also curious about why they didn´t put a stream through the windows...
If they just showed up with water and put the fire out in 15 seconds like they could their jobs would start getting cut.
00:39 That looks scary! 02:58 Another close call!
I'm proud and blessed that we have firefighters. Always on time to save someone and do the things to do to keep everyone safe
Wooooow. A pretty much total loss. Should gav easily been a total exterior attack
that flashover though! wow!
Difficult to watch.Those firefighters are more lucky than they realize.I would have walked off of this job.
Well, bye!
@@joshacevedo2274 Another future LODD heard from ...
For a second I thought this was a game because of how high quality the camera is
Awesome shots of some great fire behavior!
thank you for your service
0:37 Nice Flashover...
But what I don´t understand is : The Building is complete Burning, and why then the Risk of a Interior Attack ? There is in my Opinion absolut no reason for this. They could normaly get the Fire from outside without any Problems, the Windows are destroyed, so the could put enough Water on the Fire. The Risk is visible ,when a Part from the Roof fell down (2:55 min. ) and nearly hit 3 Firefighter. Here in Germany we learn on Rules at First: At a Fire stay out of the "drop shadow" of a burning Building. You can´t know who stable a Wall is. I think the Captain here goes on a unnecessary Risk for his Man.
It's simple thing are done differently here in the USA. Large departments with a lot of resources tend to use older tactics. Departments with less resources will use transitional attacks.
@@j81870 done differently aka done stupid and risking life's. There is so much done without thinking or reason in this video.
@@sebrassino Just because you disagree with the tactics it doesn't always make them stupid. And what level of risk is taken is different around the world.
Now would I have chosen those tactics? No I would have used a transitional attack. But that is how it's done by the LA City FD . That's the they have been doing things for years and it works for them.
@@j81870 dude... Doing things for years. It's change that makes you better. Learn and practice newer tactics. Putting lives at risk due to poor training of a commander and then the excuse of this how they do it for years. That's no excuse. You always have to look for improvement. Working more efficiently. Practice basic procedures so they becpme a habit. The level of risk is taken is to high and could be easily avoided by simple changes. There widespread available yet the pride of some people that think knowing it better is standing in its way.
@@sebrassino
Poor training are you kidding me.
You act like they are some underfund, untrained brand new Volunteer Fire Department.
So if you don't like how they do things in LA City than stay out of LA.
No need to bash them since it's obvious you don't understand how thing works in LA City FD .
If any of my guys were ever that close to a fully engaged structure and not on full scba there would be serious repercussions. Unacceptable when there was no way humans were alive in that structure. The CO needs to insure he is sending all firefighters home alive.
🤣don't use a chainsaw get water
0:40 This is what happens when the smoke ignites once it meets the fresh air from outside. The oxygen levels inside the house are most likely too low to allow combustion, but the unburned fuel is still very hot.
The oxygen levels are fine , it's just the fire still growing and the flammable gases have reached there ignition point.
@@andyoxleyonhistravels Still growing? Nah, at this point it already flashed over, spread to other rooms and vented through the windows. Whatever fresh air comes inside is used up pretty quickly.
@@TheWaynelds No it's flashed over in the back part and the flammable gases in the front have then flashed. Trust me I know. Please tell me you ain't a career firefighter ?
@@andyoxleyonhistravels Fire needs o2 or it won't burn.
@Pete Bennington Well done you just stated the obvious.
If I were the next door neighbor, I would come out with my own garden hose and start spraying down my own house.
How many garden hoses do you prepare?
I dont really see the point in cutting window-bars when the house is totally engulfed in flames
Good practice why waste it?
Need a means of escape for those going interior to fight the fire. Hard to get thru steal bars of stuff goes bad inside.
@@irishdrums4753 Basic got that right you get a May Day call and they can’t get out the windows?
@@HB-yq8gy exactly. That’s why ladders go up and bars are removed…obviously this home is a loss, but better to do it and not need it versus worst case…
Roof operations on a ventilated fire? Interior attack? Wasn't this structure abandoned?
build was a burn to ground. save the trash. have some fun. but, they needed to get more ventilation so it would not flash over like it was. Black you jacked. you see black going back into the building like that you need to vent and cool at the exact same time. it wanted oxygen badly. and do what ever it needed. it had the Heat and it had the fuel already building up. when you vent to are allowing 3 thinks to happen. oxygen to move into the fire. heat and unburden vapor fuel to move out if roof venting.
How do you know it was abandoned.
@@Master-ls2op it was already ventilated by the fire, windows blown out, fire coming out if the roof, probably why the decided not to go on the roof and vent.
read the smoke it was not vented. Black smoke is fuel and can easily flash all it needs to do is get in the correct ratio of oxygen, fuel, to heat and boom. that smoke is dark gray-black. with a nice aggressive rollback. don't know what the full options are but removing bars and getting clear airflow low and high will help keep the heat low and protect the exposures.
Not a single one of you commenting have any actual experience fighting fire and it shows….
wow! that flashover out the door!
That firefighter is lucky he didn’t get hurt because that is a hell of a lot of heat coming out of that door at once. I am glad everyone was safe
Technically it’s not a flashover it’s a good example on smoke ignition though and why you get ready before the do and have the line in hand
Really amazed at the lack of appropriate use of safety gear and situational awareness.
Need to retitle this to... Fire fighters watch house burn down and adjust a lot of helmets. Lol, it's like they have never seen a fire.
Better to plan than to rush and cause an even larger fire
That’s some badass footage
Use water use water
Is this the actual LAFD? I've seen some pretty great videos of them. They look like amateurs here.
Yeah man seriously, one guy didn’t have his suspenders on and another didn’t have his SCBA waist belt even clipped like wtf.
@@brysonstringer183 it’s important to account the fact how easy the rush of a working fire can make you forget simple tasks. You can do bunk up drills and mask up drills all day everyday. When the tone drops, there will still be mess ups. They must keep training until it’s near impossible to miss the simple things.
@@martiam451 maybe so in a volunteer dept, but in a career dept that runs fires daily, certain things ( should) become 2nd nature, like getting your gear on right, especially suspenders so his pants didn't come down after they get wet.
It seems like whenever there is a house fire. Even if the fire fighters show up the house always burns down anyway.
That one was gone from the start.
It is also to prevent the fire from spreading to other houses you know
Hahaha to funny
US FD don't tend to get water on early. They stand around watching it burn for a bit. It's kind of like a controlled burn.
RULE OF THUMB...if anybody cares out there. NEVER, NEVER go into any structure WITHOUT a CHARGED LINE. The Hot Dog on the porch before the Flashover could have become dinner.
Thats not a rule at all. Went in first on the nozzle with uncharged line at least a HUNDRED times. ...I would not on this one though!
Uhm….I’ve routinely stretched dry
And never go in alone. If you're on the nozzle, you need someone to handle the hose. This video is a good example of how NOT to fight a fire.
What about search for a known life hazard before a line is in place and operating? Are you really going to wait for a line to start your search? I am not talking about this particular case, but when you start using "Never" you limit your ability to do our job of saving lives...
Well, at least they saved the foundation and front step.
This should be a training film on what not to do. You don't need those bars off the windows, you can squirt water through them and you aren't going to use the window to enter the building anyway.
0:35 Do you really intend to climb that ladder onto the roof? Really? YOU are an idiot.
0:39 Thick black smoke. What could possibly go wrong? Maybe a "roll over" about to happen?
0:40 Yep.
2:58 This fire is what's known as "a loser". Fight it through the windows and try to keep the exterior walls from falling because if they do, the building next door is in real jeopardy. Here's a thought, you have a million dollar aerial truck sitting there...maybe use it to get above the fire.
Where did you fight fire, Pound puppy?
@@kentcarter835 I agree with him. What a bunch of morons. 34 years as a career firefighter.
0:39 that flame burst looks *so* cool!
Have to be able to think beyond motor memory. WHY is there being a ladder set up for a fully involved roof that has vented? Too many people in a small space.
Theres a lack of water being applied to the fire.The House is lost and so is any life in there.Remove your B.A. if its not needed.Cutting of railings is unnecessary when you have doors open. wear your Fire kit properly. Alot of firefighters at that fire doing very little. Don't forget your Health and Safety.
The Benny Hill Brigade.
Gotta wonder why the ff threw the ladder. Obviously, the roof was already self-venting, and who in their right mind would get on that roof?
Just another routine 800 sq ft bungalow burner in South Central... happens every other night !
Right off Crenshaw, everyone's favorite
Job security neighborhood huh? Lol
0:41 wow, I've never seen smoke ignite, that was pretty cool and terrifying.
I think it is called flashover
@@Cheesecake99YearsAgo Correction, it is not to be confused with backdraft, which is what occurred here. Flashover is when a high concentration of smoke pushes itself out of a space under a roof and pushes fresh air in to create a convection current that allows heat from the smoke to radiate down and ignite fuels underneath that the initial fire cannot reach. Backdraft is when there is limited to no air intake into the space, which would normally smother out the flames, but there still exists high amounts of heat and fuels inside. Once air is suddenly let in, which is what happened in the first when the firefighters opened the front door, combustion can restart itself and ignite the smoke. The smoke can only be ignited under a very specific concentration (which is not known), so a backdraft is very unpredictable and may not immediately occur when oxygen is let into the room. So that firefighter next to the doorway is lucky to not have been directly in front of the door at the wrong time.
Now THAT was a great example of a "flash over" at 40 seconds in! This would be a great training video!
Yeah for all the things that went wrong 🤣🤦🏼
There was a fire here in my complex last night… on Christmas out of everyday. 1 house fire spread to 4 units and completely destroyed everything. It’s absolutely terrifying to see this shit in real life.
"النار عنوانه تعذيب والحب عنوانه الاجراح"
This is an example of why you don't put bars over the windows.
Nice catch 😀👍👍 good job LAFD 🚒🏬 Thanks for the video & the channel!! Keep up the good work!!! Excellent video &:audio quality as well!!
Are you serious???? Lol.
You mean firefighters taking forever to get the water and wasting time trying to cut open window bars ?
Yeah they love smashing windows and making holes to stoke up the fire. Then stand around watching it burn for a bit. If you're lucky they might put some water on when it's well involved.
That flashover was beautiful!!
You should be a fire fighter.
One firefighter wearing his bunker gear not correctly with his suspenders not on him but instead are hanging down from his jacket as a former volunteer firefighter If I was the officer and saw that I would pull him aside and say wear your gear properly I won't be putting him into the LDH until he gets his gear on properly
I'm a UK firefighter in the West Midlands.
Why does nobody spray water into the building???
Genuine question.
Such a weird way of fighting fire.
No water sprayed at all.
Grass
@@jonwillis4109 Why waist their water.... The house is already a goner..... And the outer walls contains the fire well so it not spreading 😉😉😉
@@jonwillis4109 hi john from west Midlands I'm also a brummie. Take care out there Jon.
What’s a LDH? You mean IDLH?
In so eine Hütte schickt man niemanden mehr rein da ist ehh nix zu retten
I got scared when the ladder was thrown.
Some of that seemed like it would be unnecessary. I don't understand the point of going to the extremes of some of these procedures. The house was already a loss.
Lol I'm from LA and I Nvr say Vermont and Slauson, we say Slauson and Vermont! 😂😂😂
May God bless and watch over our firefighters and first responders. 🙏🏻✝️🙏🏻
Thank God for firefighters 🧑🚒🇺🇸❤️🧑🚒🇺🇸❤️🧑🚒🇺🇸❤️🧑🚒❤️🇺🇸🧑🚒❤️🇺🇸
California's going to ban those gasoline powered K-12 saws in a couple of more years. They're nuts!
Send them to NY use them every day.
Gonna use electric saws, just like their electric fire trucks I've heard talk about. Hopefully the trucks come with solar panels they can put up to keep the batteries charged while the bldgs burn down. 🤷♂️
Are we not going to talk about the guy that did not have his shoulder straps up and were hanging out the bottom of his coat?
0:38 you can see it in the window, that was one hell of a flashover
Thnxs for keeping tamekkas body warm though
They have more water leaking out the side of the fire truck than they do inside the house
If you knew anything about fire apparatus you would know that is normal overflow.
All house windows covered in steel bars…..how could anyone live like that?
To keep burglars away ? Why not
Iron bars*
That's how they have to live.............welcome to big " inner" city life
Well done firefighters. The fire is very strong
Everyone wants to shit on men but I’m thankful for these strong men bravely putting themselves in risky situations to keep us safe. Men are amazing.
There is no risk when you know what your doing.
Wtf was that? Textbook demonstration on what not to do 😂
Good job! 👍
excellent close up video coverage
Vermont and Slauson… I lived on Normandie and Slauson
Spectacular video!
Risk a lot to save a lot, risk a little to save a little, risk nothing to save nothing. Lots of risk going on here with a fully involved house with nothing to save
That looks like it was to fast moving to be a natural cause
Why on earth do they get masked up right in front of the doorway when its about to flashover. Thats how firefighters get injured for no reason.
121 American firefighters have died in 2021 so far this year, 121 too many
@@michaelfreeze2949 In fairness Michael I think the stats this year include many covid related deaths. That said the amount of firefighters killed and seriously injured in fires and vehicle accidents involving firetrucks over there is far too high.
Firefighters seem to want to do everything else but put water on a fire...
Lmao if you throw enough fire fighters at the fire it will go out at some point lol
Textbook example of a flashover.
Kind of careless and not aggressive by any means
Stockton fire is on point they are probably the most aggressive I’ve seen
Wow, all the windows have metal frames :0
How the heck are people supposed to escape
Lots of firefighters but not much fire fighting!
Don’t forget to put on your suspenders 🤣
Thank god they’re all vaccinated
Glad no one was injured.
It flashed over real quick
bros instinct was to shoot the wood woth fire good shit 😭
There is no reason to cut out window bars.. its a defensive operation. Change your tactics and objectives. also there are to many firefighters on scene walking around. They can be useful by protecting exposures.
I always wanted to be a firefighter or one on these guys who helps people save people lives in accidents or Catastrophes now i ended up being dentist
You could still join a volunteer department and answer calls after work hours. It adds a lot to life being involved in this capacity.
@@stevenjohn1646 there is no such thing in my country unfortunately thanks for the reply 🙂
Very strange way of putting of fire
No eye protection when using the saws...smh
If this was a smaller S. Cal FD, It would be handled better than LA City with too many boots that don't do any meaningful work.... Three-3-man Eng Companies and one 4-man truck could have done this job more effectively
I was going to say that it seemed like just too many on scene to be organized and disciplined.
Wow at 0:41 every firefighters worst nightmare a flashover.
I was a firefighter as well and I can tell you they missed all of the signs of a backdraft and or flashover right in front of their faces these firefighters look like that no idea what they were doing this building is all but gone they're better off to protect the two structures on the sides