This is not the first time the "zodiac killer" has been "discovered." Very likely will not be the last. May the victims and their families be remembered and honored. Not some murderer who, likely having died by now, has now realized that you can run from your mortal sins but you cannot forever hide.
I’m not all the way through with the video but why are they listening to what a group is saying and not actual detectives. This just seem like another bs headline to distract us
@@dylanduffy1995 he said you can’t run from your mortal sins, meaning the zodiac killer and Jack the Ripper realized they’re going to hell. And they should, evil evil people.
@@fidneusdiller8123 I know he stated I come down to hunt people more than killing a animal Robert Hanson was the killer he died like 4 years ago I think
@Daniel Robinson Dude it’s a fucking joke, don’t be rude for no reason. Learn to take a joke for once and if you don’t find it funny then don’t respond
I don't think this case will ever close: the Zodiac Killer was ingenious in covering his tracks and staying ahead of law enforcement similar to Ted Kaczynski. Given how well he executed these people under Det. Toschi's nose, he may have been a former lawman.
Doesn’t it kinda make you think the zodiac was a cop himself. How does one stay ahead of the law without being one or having an officer on the inside.? I’m sure he did it all alone but how did he stay so ahead and that message to be decoded barely until fairly recently, idk man he’s too advanced a killer to be alone in the same token.
Or maybe it’s like a Chinese riddle, where the answer is in the question could have all been a smoke screen and the detective was in on it or was the zodiac…. Plot twist…
@@camachopocket2933 He was apparently an outdoorsman, and a prepper, who committed seemingly random acts of violence. He was relatively intelligent, so staying under the radar pre-DNA was much more easy than it would be today.
Feel sorry for that Tom guy still independently investigating the case putting all his efforts in thinking its aruther Lee, man if it is this other guys all them years wasted poor guy
@@littlemichaeljr6518 no there name don't start with tom lol, a guy called tom Voigt has spend an incredible amount of time on the zodiac case and his is very adimant its arthur lee allen, he has even got a book out recently, now if this guy turns out to be the zodiac then I would be gutted if I was him he has spent years doing his own investigation and trying to help the police, he is on RUclips as well, he is one of the main guys that puts stuff up about the zodiac too
@@pooldead7712 you don't need to be sorry lol Arthur Leigh Allen is still #1 suspect. These case breakers are 5 years late because the actual detectives and authorities clearly Gary Francis Poste in 2016. They found him a long time ago. Imagine accusing someone to find out you're 5 years late and his cleared
It's not a crazy theory at all. Everyone has their favorite Zodiac suspect, but my opinion is one of two things. Either Zodiacs identity has yet to reveal itself (none of the current suspects), OR it was more than one person. And neither would surprise me. What would surprise me is if we later learn that it's someone like Arthur Leigh Allen or Gaikowski. THAT would surprise me. Zodiac didn't have a MO. One day he's shooting couples parked in cars, the next he's stabbing them on the beach, after that he's shooting lone cab drivers. And yes, these were all committed in different towns/cities. Some were quite a distance from each other. So 2 or even 3 killers wouldn't be a stretch at all. The real question would be whether or not they worked together or alone. My guess would be the latter.
It's possible more than one but I always felt Robert Greysmith identified zodiac his explanations seemed likely supposedly Mague identified in movie unless you give dna I think it's just conjecture and how about Bloodline Detectives anyway to identify off stines shirt or any dna off victims? Seems with technology now woud be perfect time to prove %100
Leigh Alan was definitely the Zodiac killer, he was a diver and excellent swimmer he dressed up like the old fashioned deepsea divers with a cardboard box over his head and strange suit. I can't belive it took so long for detectives to put the pieces together.
I think a lot of Americans are too obsessive with serial killer and this is coming from American myself The fact that you think a serial killer who is not caught is laughing at the lack of information I mean against us joke I get it it’s kind of funny but like take it serious that there are actual uncaught serial killers among us and it’s actually not funny when you think about it it’s actually scary and America is obsessed with serial killers we give them too many shows and publicity is disgusting !!!!
Odds are he's a cop. If all those killings are the work of one person, which I don't think they are, then the only way to keep that far ahead of the police is to be near them.
HIs uncle was a cop. He lived about 1/3 of a mile from his nephew. And Chester was an advanced weaponry specialist and a Merchant Marine. He worked at the Presido. Then he moved to Eureka.
I'm reading those who knew him said he was insanely obsessed with hunting and killing any animals he could find. Zodiac stated Humans are the most fun to hunt as they are the most dangerous animal of them all.
He was probably a cop who was searching the killer (himself lol). The eye of the storm where no one looks. Same kinda thing happened in my country. Victim who was lost was in search and rescue team. LOL. He later found out that they were looking for him.
@@lubosmith DNA can be modified and can come from others not involved in the crime. The evidence was strong against Arthur Allen Leigh and he was the ONLY suspect that was a Vallejo resident which is the most important clue.
It's the image that was forced by journalist through his book that Allen was the perpetrator. If detectives say the investigation is still ongoing, then we can safely conclude that it's not Allen.
When a man has the most circumstantial evidence ever seen in a high profile case and was seen near one crime scene, you can bet his the guy and I'm talking about Arthur Leigh Allen because he is still #1 suspect and Gary Francis Poste was cleared in 2016 by the actual detectives and authorities. Check out sf chronicles news lol. These case breakers were 5 years late and apparently are "wrong" as they are just making claims
To now call the mans family repeatedly, who they “think” is the killer, is wrong. They lost their loved one, and you all are gonna put information out in the air so their community can judge them, shun them? The family didn’t do anything wrong. Leave them alone!
Save face after decades? Not solving it still wouldn’t have hurt anyone reputation. Nobody active in law enforcement really cares anymore. The team who found out the true identity was an independent group. I’m not saying you’re wrong and I’m not saying the guy they identified is truly him, but I think it’s mostly legit
Agree ! this is hardly the first time they got a "name" from the code . They have done it with many .. other's before and went nowhere . They would have to match this guy 's handwriting ! to the letters . Also prove he was around the area's , at the time of the crimes . And his shoe size would have to match footprints found . If they can't first do all of those ! it's just more speculation .
This lunatic brutally stabbed that couple who were in the park on a picnic while wearing his stupid outfit. Now I can never relax or enjoy sitting in a park ever again unless I’m armed.
@@waltersobchak7275 Cheney was local to the area which as I said before is the biggest factor. It would have to be someone that knew those roads,the Berryessa area and lake Herman area. The phonecall he made to the cops was right around the block from the police station and close to where Leigh lived.
@@williamryan7403 in the comments is a guy that said his dad was a doctor there. He said some interesting things. Seriously if you like Zodiac check that channel out. He is a good guy.
Whomever it was, he gets justice in the afterlife. Just like the person who killed JonBenet Ramsey, Natalee Holloway, and especially John List - who murdered his entire family in 1971 to "save their souls"; he was found, but believed until he died that he was going to Heaven.
I think Zodiac was a cultist. In both codes, he talked about slaves in the afterlife. The more he killed the more slaves he would have to serve him in the afterlife. I would focus on identifying the cult and then seeing if the cult was organized. I know cults arent churches where they have a membership log. However, I imagine locating the cult might add clues. Also, the 1960s and 70s were the golden age of cults and neopaganism. I think he came from one of these groups.
Very possible, I will add hes not the first killer to Express " control through death 'lee van Allen was identified by only known survivor and the partial DNA on envelope, letters ,the hood _ library records fascinating mystery still
@@sissia.5121 He was. I consider the Saranic temple a cult. When Stanton levey was selling membership records from 66, stanton read special names for me, There are other victims from there that is though to be are.
The issue with this New Suspect is that you MUST assume that the same person wrote all the letters and was the same person who killed the 5 victims that are considered zodiac killer victims. That is a big issue. There is more reasonable and substantial evidence to conclude that these murders were not connected. The first 2 killings (2 couple in December and 2 in July) are connected. The Day time murder with suspect wearing black Zodiac costume is a copy cat and Stein the cab driver is unrelated.
So how do you explain that all involved departments, the CCI and FBI have connected the 4 conical attacks. When Zodiac sent his first group of letters regarding the two Vallejo Crimes, he did not seal the envelops with saliva; however, utilized a very "unconventional" method. When he sent letters to the SF Chronical, especially the one with the swatch of Stine's bloody shirt; he used the same method of sealing the envelops. Couple that with the handwriting being confirmed a match, double-postage which the public did not know about at the time, it would be a fair argument that they are all connected. The issue with this new suspect is that some "group" of researchers claimed to have solved the case. This did not come from any LE announcement/press conference etc.
I know that, when I typed this, it had already been 3 years, but the Netflix special " The Zodiac is Speaking" makes a pretty convincing argument that the Zodiac was Arthur Leigh Allen. They even had a potential knife with an unknown red substance, and they never gave us the results of the lab analysis. Worth a watch if you are into the mystery of the Zodiac
@@aacproductions996 when i first got into the zodiac killer i thought that the first two were arthur leigh allen or someone else and the paul stine murder was earl van best, then i found out there was absolutley no evidence except for the fact that he resembled the police sketch
based on activity .. zodiac active between 1969 - 1979. Reasonable to say he was 35-40 .. meaning he'd be be born somewhere in the 1930s I find it odd that there is no more communication
you do realize he died 2018 at age 80 and died painfully of serious diseases meaning he lived miserably probably in the hospital for years on end, right? the guy literally couldn't swallow on a serious degree imagine what he went through. not to mention he had brain damage for years on end too (vascular dementia)
The Zodiac Killer was Joseph Paul Franklin = 18 characters like from the Z408 cipher. Look up Joseph Paul Franklin he is the Zodiac. 13 character unsolved cipher from April 20th "My name is" letter = James Vaughn Jr The zodiac symbol is a neo nzi symbol he was trying to start a race war. I have a few videos on my channel about it.
@@jpeg.600x2 Yes, if you look up Joseph Paul Franklin he looks just like the sketch, his name fits into the ciphers also. You can write a book on the evidence that it was Franklin.
I do not know if this man was the killer. One party, on another story has suggested that the reason some of these serial killers have stopped is because a private citizen found out who they were and took vigilante action and killed them themselves. Probably an ex soldier or cop. I think in some cases, it is so.
I say let the professional Detectives figure it out! Instead of just saying ...."my next door neighbor was creepy and always read the horoscopes in the weekly paper! He was a strange man, who led a double life.." get a new one!
Poste wasnt the killer,i was my dad! We owned a cabin in the hills that we only went to but once a year. One day i dug up a trunk filled with his hood and cypher code sheet,he died in 76. When i descovered what i found i burned it. My dad was in vietnam and when he came home he started acting weird and we didnt know what was wrong with him,it wasnt until 97 that i found the trunk with his black hood and cypher. The place where the first murder happened was only 11 miles from our vacation cabin!
I don't know where to post this but if you look at composite of D.B. Cooper and the zodiac killer they look alike and if I am not wrong zodiacs final letter was in 1969 and DB Cooper hijacked the airplane in 1971 could they be the same person or are my timelines wrong check out the composites of both men.
I don’t think it was him I still believe and maintain that it was two different people. With it being two different people if one was starting to get suspicious by the police another person could do the killings afterwards so the trail would then be cold for the other guy that was doing it.
Zodiac had a terminal illness, he was gling to die anyway. SFFBi had3 months of questions on his deathbed.He says he never killed anymore since that time. Before that 0 he fled to Middle wast in 75, That was in frst 4 lines of what crypto solved, they missed that work. Solving all of the ciphers was probably the easiest thing you will everdo.
If it isn't this man, the world is now harassing some dead guys family
You dont think hes the hurdy gurdy man!? Aw camon brah the media never lies or tells bs that turns out to be fake news.😂
@@ShotgunNShacK its a group thst is claiming they solved it, not tge media even the police do not buy it she sais this in the 1st minute of the video
Look up "Zodiac We Called Him Mr Allen-Arthur Leigh Allen" these people knew ALA.
Look at how many likes 😳
Gary Poste was a trash human being, imagine the family
This is not the first time the "zodiac killer" has been "discovered." Very likely will not be the last. May the victims and their families be remembered and honored. Not some murderer who, likely having died by now, has now realized that you can run from your mortal sins but you cannot forever hide.
I’m not all the way through with the video but why are they listening to what a group is saying and not actual detectives. This just seem like another bs headline to distract us
Idk it's been 130 years since the Jack The Ripper and they still haven't identified him so guess you can get away forever
Did- did you just say “you can run but you can’t hide”? But for real? Take my like.
It’s been it’s been 60 years and I doubt they will confirm it was this guy so I think he can forever hide who it really was.
@@dylanduffy1995 he said you can’t run from your mortal sins, meaning the zodiac killer and Jack the Ripper realized they’re going to hell. And they should, evil evil people.
Plot twist the guy who solved the case is actually the Zodiac killer
@@fidneusdiller8123 I know he stated I come down to hunt people more than killing a animal Robert Hanson was the killer he died like 4 years ago I think
And he’s back at it again
@Daniel Robinson
Dude it’s a fucking joke, don’t be rude for no reason. Learn to take a joke for once and if you don’t find it funny then don’t respond
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And you've been watching too much death note
“Made over a a dozen calls to the family of the accused…”
That’s nice of you
I don't think this case will ever close: the Zodiac Killer was ingenious in covering his tracks and staying ahead of law enforcement similar to Ted Kaczynski. Given how well he executed these people under Det. Toschi's nose, he may have been a former lawman.
Dudeeee woah
If a murder weapon is in the weapons cache, it:s over
Doesn’t it kinda make you think the zodiac was a cop himself. How does one stay ahead of the law without being one or having an officer on the inside.? I’m sure he did it all alone but how did he stay so ahead and that message to be decoded barely until fairly recently, idk man he’s too advanced a killer to be alone in the same token.
Or maybe it’s like a Chinese riddle, where the answer is in the question could have all been a smoke screen and the detective was in on it or was the zodiac…. Plot twist…
@@camachopocket2933 He was apparently an outdoorsman, and a prepper, who committed seemingly random acts of violence. He was relatively intelligent, so staying under the radar pre-DNA was much more easy than it would be today.
Feel sorry for that Tom guy still independently investigating the case putting all his efforts in thinking its aruther Lee, man if it is this other guys all them years wasted poor guy
um, you mean Robert Grayson or Paul Avery?...
@@littlemichaeljr6518 no there name don't start with tom lol, a guy called tom Voigt has spend an incredible amount of time on the zodiac case and his is very adimant its arthur lee allen, he has even got a book out recently, now if this guy turns out to be the zodiac then I would be gutted if I was him he has spent years doing his own investigation and trying to help the police, he is on RUclips as well, he is one of the main guys that puts stuff up about the zodiac too
@@pooldead7712 you don't need to be sorry lol Arthur Leigh Allen is still #1 suspect. These case breakers are 5 years late because the actual detectives and authorities clearly Gary Francis Poste in 2016. They found him a long time ago. Imagine accusing someone to find out you're 5 years late and his cleared
Really? Where do you get this information from?!
@@littlemichaeljr6518 yeah, I immediately thought of Robert Greysmith
So the fact that people already think there were multiple killers in different cities isn't a crazy theory
It's not a crazy theory at all. Everyone has their favorite Zodiac suspect, but my opinion is one of two things. Either Zodiacs identity has yet to reveal itself (none of the current suspects), OR it was more than one person. And neither would surprise me. What would surprise me is if we later learn that it's someone like Arthur Leigh Allen or Gaikowski. THAT would surprise me.
Zodiac didn't have a MO. One day he's shooting couples parked in cars, the next he's stabbing them on the beach, after that he's shooting lone cab drivers. And yes, these were all committed in different towns/cities. Some were quite a distance from each other. So 2 or even 3 killers wouldn't be a stretch at all. The real question would be whether or not they worked together or alone. My guess would be the latter.
@@Aaron_Scissorhands I think it was both Arther and Richard but I still researching it all. Richard did the killings and Arther written the letters
It's possible more than one but I always felt Robert Greysmith identified zodiac his explanations seemed likely supposedly Mague identified in movie unless you give dna I think it's just conjecture and how about Bloodline Detectives anyway to identify off stines shirt or any dna off victims? Seems with technology now woud be perfect time to prove %100
HE went to diff cities.
lmao imagine garys just a random dead guy gettin all this blame on his grave 🤣
The real killer is in the US senate.
His best friend just revealed he tortured animals so he deserves some.
@@texasdrz9515 the real killer is Playstation 5
@@j.tt.4877 Proof?
Leigh Alan was definitely the Zodiac killer, he was a diver and excellent swimmer he dressed up like the old fashioned deepsea divers with a cardboard box over his head and strange suit. I can't belive it took so long for detectives to put the pieces together.
I sometimes like to imagine uncaught killers like the zodiac watching documentaries on themselves and laughing at the lack of information
I can picture that perfectly, cause it is hilarious
And he probably already gave you a like in his fine retired home
@@skullcandye1003 you think it’s funny that they aren’t caught? Weird.
I think a lot of Americans are too obsessive with serial killer and this is coming from American myself The fact that you think a serial killer who is not caught is laughing at the lack of information I mean against us joke I get it it’s kind of funny but like take it serious that there are actual uncaught serial killers among us and it’s actually not funny when you think about it it’s actually scary and America is obsessed with serial killers we give them too many shows and publicity is disgusting !!!!
Odds are he's a cop. If all those killings are the work of one person, which I don't think they are, then the only way to keep that far ahead of the police is to be near them.
Probably was once a cop but was fired for not being able to perform his duties so he takes a cowards way out and kills basically children.
could have had a scanner, he was nearly caught also
You nailed it, plus military
HIs uncle was a cop. He lived about 1/3 of a mile from his nephew. And Chester was an advanced weaponry specialist and a Merchant Marine. He worked at the Presido. Then he moved to Eureka.
Some guy did point out his grandfather and points extensively on tiktok abt it.
Talk about reliving my childhood nightmare.. Californians where shook to the core when this was happening
How old are you
@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing? texas
@@nathanscott8598 egg
Y'all had hundred of serial killers in California and only the zodiac scared you?
Why? he killed like 4 people you'd have a better chance dying walking down the stairs in your home than the zodiac □●~€|○°□+0○●○
They will never know who the Zodiac killer was
Damn if this is fake I feel bad for the guys spirit who’s getting accused of murder
There's no 'spirit'
@@goggins_amazing -the guy who thinks David doggins is amazing 🤡
Yes what a mess hopefully they can prove definitively
I'm reading those who knew him said he was insanely obsessed with hunting and killing any animals he could find. Zodiac stated Humans are the most fun to hunt as they are the most dangerous animal of them all.
Imagine if after he was captured, the Zodiac Killer reappeared after 50 years and kills more people
He was probably a cop who was searching the killer (himself lol). The eye of the storm where no one looks. Same kinda thing happened in my country. Victim who was lost was in search and rescue team. LOL. He later found out that they were looking for him.
Like the golden state killer?
Lemme guess your Turkish lmao
maybe the victim was actually zodiac
Is it only me or is the audio out of sync
it's out of sync
Yup
Yup
Zodiac knocked their mouth's out of sync
"It's ARTHUR Lee ALLEN" - Jake Gyllenhaal
No way DNA didnt match plus all evidence is circumstantial
I saw the movie. I believe that killer is dead.
Lmaooo
@@lubosmith DNA can be modified and can come from others not involved in the crime. The evidence was strong against Arthur Allen Leigh and he was the ONLY suspect that was a Vallejo resident which is the most important clue.
It's the image that was forced by journalist through his book that Allen was the perpetrator.
If detectives say the investigation is still ongoing, then we can safely conclude that it's not Allen.
If he was stationed at Travis Air Base at the time of the murders, he's your man.
how so?
When a man has the most circumstantial evidence ever seen in a high profile case and was seen near one crime scene, you can bet his the guy and I'm talking about Arthur Leigh Allen because he is still #1 suspect and Gary Francis Poste was cleared in 2016 by the actual detectives and authorities. Check out sf chronicles news lol. These case breakers were 5 years late and apparently are "wrong" as they are just making claims
@@niklaus9678 They also have not found who DB Cooper is yet. The zodiac Killer has probably been dead for a few years.
@@urofan reality is, zodiac possibly died 30 years ago👀
@@niklaus9678 how you know that
Imagine if that isn’t the zodiac killer and he is currently watching all of this!
Hes dead lol
If Gary isn't which he very could well be but either way he's more than likely dead.
Of course he is watching. And God is watching him.
Richard Hoffman was a cop at the crime scenes his grandson says he was the Zodiac.
Everyone is the Zodiac...
Problem is it’s been solved before, it can be cracked in multiple ways. We will never truely know.
To now call the mans family repeatedly, who they “think” is the killer, is wrong. They lost their loved one, and you all are gonna put information out in the air so their community can judge them, shun them? The family didn’t do anything wrong. Leave them alone!
This group? It’s Arthur Leigh Allen! He knew Darlene Farin
If they have dna, they'll run it through one of those ancestry websites to find a relative
That’s would be cool ngl
They only had a partial DNA sequence from a stamp on one of his letters.
@@lisamartin3734 It still might be possible to find him if they get samples from close relatives.
@@7ntx they already did it to catch the Golden State killer. He's in jail now as an old man
Except there is no definitive dna sample of the perpetrator as far as I know...
Seems pretty facetious. I’m thinking the police accusing a dead man to save face. I mean it’s an unsolved murderer that rubbed their faces in it…
The police said it isn't him
Bruh his friend posted him and under the caption says “zodiac?” He’s actually posted him a couple times. His name is Glynn Barnes
It’s him stop trying to be smart and cool
@@RobXb I think that’s his son but kept his mothers name
Save face after decades? Not solving it still wouldn’t have hurt anyone reputation. Nobody active in law enforcement really cares anymore. The team who found out the true identity was an independent group. I’m not saying you’re wrong and I’m not saying the guy they identified is truly him, but I think it’s mostly legit
What hard undeniable evidence did these ppl produce? Hope ppl aren’t harassing the family
One of the zodiac killers codes can only be cracked with the full name of this guy.
Agree ! this is hardly the first time they got a "name" from the code . They have done it with many .. other's before and went nowhere . They would have to match this guy 's handwriting ! to the letters . Also prove he was around the area's , at the time of the crimes . And his shoe size would have to match footprints found . If they can't first do all of those ! it's just more speculation .
@@e13kid yeah but they never tell you what the code said now do they?
@@e13kid Source please.
If this is true, that means this guy watched the movie about him realizing he really did get away with it
Man he's going to be in big trouble if they prove that
naw cuz hes already dead
@@unluckynumber1311 r/wooooosh
@@unluckynumber1311 🤦♂️
🤣🤣
@@unluckynumber1311 that’s the point mate
This lunatic brutally stabbed that couple who were in the park on a picnic while wearing his stupid outfit.
Now I can never relax or enjoy sitting in a park ever again unless I’m armed.
They forget michael is still alive and is still to this day the man who saw zodiac without a mask only he can identify him
Maybe find some old footage of the guy to see how he’s voice sounded like
he identified arthur leigh allen as the zodiac
Well the title of this video was obviously misleading. Nothing has changed in the last 25 years with all of the amateur speculators.
It was Cornpop.
huh?
They didn't solve anything.
I seriously hope they aren’t tarnishing the name of this man and his families lives
Seriously
Audio out of sync.
It was detective Richard Hoffman the actual detective of the Zodiaks case of the Vallejo PD his grandson Jason Foy has all the evidence
He got discovered a long time ago. He was a Vallejo resident named Arthur Allen Leigh. He was the only one whom was local to the area.
Close Don Cheney. Try Black Box online radio here on RUclips. Zodiac based channel
@@waltersobchak7275 Cheney was local to the area which as I said before is the biggest factor. It would have to be someone that knew those roads,the Berryessa area and lake Herman area. The phonecall he made to the cops was right around the block from the police station and close to where Leigh lived.
@@waltersobchak7275 Then there is the fact that the killing and communication stopped when Leigh was serving time in Atascadero mental facilities.
@@williamryan7403 in the comments is a guy that said his dad was a doctor there. He said some interesting things. Seriously if you like Zodiac check that channel out. He is a good guy.
@@waltersobchak7275 His dad really was a doctor, the true Z. He died in 66 though. Hi Dick Sargeant ! I broke every single cipher. Even Z13 and Z32.
Zodiac killer is law enforcement officer.
But he worked as a painter later
Source?
Was
His uncle was, he lived about 1/3 of a mile from Zodiac. I actually met the uncles coworker.
Now get Brian and Michael to identify he’s face and voice
Whomever it was, he gets justice in the afterlife. Just like the person who killed JonBenet Ramsey, Natalee Holloway, and especially John List - who murdered his entire family in 1971 to "save their souls"; he was found, but believed until he died that he was going to Heaven.
I think Zodiac was a cultist. In both codes, he talked about slaves in the afterlife. The more he killed the more slaves he would have to serve him in the afterlife. I would focus on identifying the cult and then seeing if the cult was organized. I know cults arent churches where they have a membership log. However, I imagine locating the cult might add clues. Also, the 1960s and 70s were the golden age of cults and neopaganism. I think he came from one of these groups.
I think cultist also.
Very possible, I will add hes not the first killer to Express " control through death 'lee van Allen was identified by only known survivor and the partial DNA on envelope, letters ,the hood _ library records fascinating mystery still
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@@sissia.5121 He was. I consider the Saranic temple a cult. When Stanton levey was selling membership records from 66, stanton read special names for me, There are other victims from there that is though to be are.
@@rickh3714 It says something is hidden and its his full name. Found'
The issue with this New Suspect is that you MUST assume that the same person wrote all the letters and was the same person who killed the 5 victims that are considered zodiac killer victims. That is a big issue. There is more reasonable and substantial evidence to conclude that these murders were not connected. The first 2 killings (2 couple in December and 2 in July) are connected. The Day time murder with suspect wearing black Zodiac costume is a copy cat and Stein the cab driver is unrelated.
So how do you explain that all involved departments, the CCI and FBI have connected the 4 conical attacks. When Zodiac sent his first group of letters regarding the two Vallejo Crimes, he did not seal the envelops with saliva; however, utilized a very "unconventional" method. When he sent letters to the SF Chronical, especially the one with the swatch of Stine's bloody shirt; he used the same method of sealing the envelops. Couple that with the handwriting being confirmed a match, double-postage which the public did not know about at the time, it would be a fair argument that they are all connected. The issue with this new suspect is that some "group" of researchers claimed to have solved the case. This did not come from any LE announcement/press conference etc.
He probably forced the victim, to write a letter, and then murdered them.
I know that, when I typed this, it had already been 3 years, but the Netflix special " The Zodiac is Speaking" makes a pretty convincing argument that the Zodiac was Arthur Leigh Allen. They even had a potential knife with an unknown red substance, and they never gave us the results of the lab analysis. Worth a watch if you are into the mystery of the Zodiac
Imagine getting a phone call that your dads the zodiac killer
here before this goes viral
This guy Really does look like the police sketch.
Eye witness testimony aren’t always accurate. Police sketches aren’t always reliable.
@@iamaperson5243
Yes, but victims are not Just eye witness’.
@@clockwork914 yes and one of the victims, Mike Mageau positively identified Arthur Leigh Allen
And so did earl van best jr and it definitely wasn’t him
@@aacproductions996 when i first got into the zodiac killer i thought that the first two were arthur leigh allen or someone else and the paul stine murder was earl van best, then i found out there was absolutley no evidence except for the fact that he resembled the police sketch
Damn riverside keeps failing first la 69 now this foo.
Bruh dafuq are yall talking about possibly identified? Everyone knows the zodiac killer is Ted Cruz 😤😤😤😤💯💯💯💯👏👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌
lmao
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Well I'm glad they didn't blame the Russians.
Cause it was Trump 😂
@@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt bro what 💀
Are they liable if incorrect?
Probably not
No. Tho the media could be liable for harassment if they keep bothering the family
Someday they'll catch me. Until then. Ill enjoy living under the radar. 😁
based on activity .. zodiac active between 1969 - 1979. Reasonable to say he was 35-40 .. meaning he'd be be born somewhere in the 1930s I find it odd that there is no more communication
He probably died
@@teshahartke5468 He did not die till 22. LE questioned for 3 months prio , they got what they needed.
That means he might’ve watched ninja in his prime 😳
how so
@@jpeg.600x2 he died in 2018.
(If you are taking this comment seriously) it's only a possibility though.
you do realize he died 2018 at age 80 and died painfully of serious diseases meaning he lived miserably probably in the hospital for years on end, right? the guy literally couldn't swallow on a serious degree imagine what he went through. not to mention he had brain damage for years on end too (vascular dementia)
@@littlemichaeljr6518 good lmao
@@littlemichaeljr6518 good
He could’ve possibly played prime fortnite
😂😂😂
Everyone has been accused at this point 😂
No, the real ZODIAC was not accused.
No evidence.
The Zodiac Killer was Joseph Paul Franklin = 18 characters like from the Z408 cipher. Look up Joseph Paul Franklin he is the Zodiac. 13 character unsolved cipher from April 20th "My name is" letter = James Vaughn Jr The zodiac symbol is a neo nzi symbol he was trying to start a race war. I have a few videos on my channel about it.
r u sure?
r u sure?
@@jpeg.600x2 Yes, if you look up Joseph Paul Franklin he looks just like the sketch, his name fits into the ciphers also. You can write a book on the evidence that it was Franklin.
Is he from california?
@wedonotcare not sure what you mean...
Why is it that sometimes the audio doesn't sync up with the video!!!!
The zodiac is “identified” 3 times a year, this is the most popular one that I have seen though
Yall better find the Batman to solve this crime 😭
This man is as good as jack the ripper in covering up the evidence. I don't anyone is gonna know the identity of the zodiac killer.
Jack the Ripper was prob kin to the zodiac
Imagine being here in 2024 knowing it was Richard Hoffman
I do not know if this man was the killer. One party, on another story has suggested that the reason some of these serial killers have stopped is because a private citizen found out who they were and took vigilante action and killed them themselves. Probably an ex soldier or cop. I think in some cases, it is so.
Yes, but who´s responsible for this out of sync video and are they fired yet?
I say let the professional Detectives figure it out! Instead of just saying ...."my next door neighbor was creepy and always read the horoscopes in the weekly paper! He was a strange man, who led a double life.." get a new one!
Let’s face it, this will never be definitively solved.
Genealogy now that it's available Bloodline Detectives is favorite show
What about Richard Hoffman?
…I thought Jake Gyllenhall solved this years ago?
people probably sending fake letters is so sick, they need real clues
Is the guy who survived one of his attacks still alive?
He is a lawyer and lives in southern California
@Kenny they should ask him to identify him through the photos
@Kenny yeah I remember that. They should check on those DNA results
@Kenny same here
@@lex_C_88 they did do a dna test and finger print and it didn't match
Meanwhile Jack The Ripper, Zodiac Killer and D.B. Cooper are laughing at the clowns who are trying to identify them 😂
I'm pretty sure we know who D B Cooper was... Just not what happened to him
I'm a bit sceptic about this
Renee, don't start your reporting with " yeah".
bruh💀
And he would’ve gotten away with it if it weren’t for those meddling kids
Get this… yeah…ah such professionalism in reporting on this horrendous murderer.
This guy wasn’t the Zodiac it was Ross Sullivan people just don’t want to admit they’ve been looking for a guy who’s been dead for over 40 years
Nope he was Leigh
He did not die till 22.FBI had 3 months to question and i believe they got a lot more information from him
I wonder if they're was multiple killers that were part of some twisted ritualistic cult and they had like a secret society
I agree. Perhaps his family was in a cult as well
Netflix has the documentary of this saying it was Arthur Leigh Allan
damn 3 years late
He was foundg 3 month fore death. The law questioned the hell out of him, I dont even know that part
Umm The Zodiac Killer Is Not a Hollywood movie. It acts happened In Northern California USA In the 60s. My best friends Sister was one of his victims
I imagine that the Zodiac is seeing this news.. remembering their past glories.
No he died in an ohio prison on an oxygen tank
@@d5254 Oh really? And who might that be?
and watching the batman movie
Poste wasnt the killer,i was my dad!
We owned a cabin in the hills that we only went to but once a year.
One day i dug up a trunk filled with his hood and cypher code sheet,he died in 76.
When i descovered what i found i burned it.
My dad was in vietnam and when he came home he started acting weird and we didnt know what was wrong with him,it wasnt until 97 that i found the trunk with his black hood and cypher.
The place where the first murder happened was only 11 miles from our vacation cabin!
Sure...
You did not. He was in Azerbaijanit starting in 75. If you did, someone was playing him.
I think he moved to the east coast and committed the colonial parkway murders. They are earily similar.
I don't know where to post this but if you look at composite of D.B. Cooper and the zodiac killer they look alike and if I am not wrong zodiacs final letter was in 1969 and DB Cooper hijacked the airplane in 1971 could they be the same person or are my timelines wrong check out the composites of both men.
Wow I cannot believe they are still trying to solve the zodiac killer crime after all these years.
I dont buy it. More is needed and they just dont have it?
Its Arthur Leigh Allen
I don’t think it was him I still believe and maintain that it was two different people. With it being two different people if one was starting to get suspicious by the police another person could do the killings afterwards so the trail would then be cold for the other guy that was doing it.
They got the wrong _'Gary'_ , like I've told people all along, it's Gary Burghoff.
Arthur Leigh Allen is a more convincing suspect imo
I agree. I always think Arthur Leigh Allen is the zodiac killer. Robert Graysmith has unmasked that.
someone call the mystery gang
*BULLSHIT! NO HARD EVIDENCE! THEY TRYING TO GET THE CREDIT.*
They butchered Michael Mageau name here
Its then when the hurdy gurdy man came singing songs of love
wasnt that Cat Stevens ?? Perfect for that movie.
@@kathykline7202 Donovan
apologize to ted cruz now !!!
It's hard to believe he died 3 years ago since the zodiac killer hasn't killed for a long time.
@@MattyTaps he dead lol.
@@Anthonycheesman2024 he was old
How's a 60-70 year old gonna get away with murders 😂😂
How do you know he hasn't killed again. I don't think he just woke up and said .no more!
Zodiac had a terminal illness, he was gling to die anyway. SFFBi had3 months of questions on his deathbed.He says he never killed anymore since that time. Before that 0 he fled to Middle wast in 75, That was in frst 4 lines of what crypto solved, they missed that work. Solving all of the ciphers was probably the easiest thing you will everdo.
In my opinion only Arthur Leigh Allen or Richard Gaikowski could be a possible Zodiac
Based on ... ??
michael who survived the zodiac killer identified Arthur Leigh Allen
@@QUEENofHEARTZ1973 Michael Mageau is not known as the most honest individual.
I found a new and very interesting theory in:
Beyond the fog of time - Zodiac killer an alternative analysis ...
i call B/S