After going as high as +40 kgs on bar dips, i tried ring dips. I struggled to do 3 reps a set on rings to begin with. Totally different challenge. I also improved much faster on rings than i ever did on bars. Obviously activates muscles better. That alone makes ring dips superior.
@@RedDeltaProjectFor pushing exercises i believe the key to building the most efficient muscles is using unstable surfaces. Rings/TRX is my favourite piece of fitness equipment!
I have a question man, i'm actually using bar dips and don't struggle to do "chest dips" (leaning forward to focus chest) and "triceps dips" and i want to know, is it easy to perform these kind of variations on rings ?
It's much harder to do them on rings due to the inherent instability, but that's a good thing. Sometimes, I recommend doing ring dips over weighted bar dips.
Due to the stabilizing factor that the rings lack are the muscle that are worked with bar dips worked more with ring dips or the only thing that changes is the fact that you work the stabilizing muscles more?
Sort of, technically, there's no such thing as a stabilizer muscle so it's not like you're working different muscles with bars vs rings. But you are using tension to create more stability which requires more strength.
I guess you could make an argument either way. Less stability requires more tension and fatigues the muscles faster. But you could say more stability in solid bars might make it easier to keep pushing to a higher level of fatigue. I think, either way, the important thing is to be consistent with what you're doing and aiming to add reps and/or tension over time.
mercurySS my personal experience?is that i could 50+dips on bars....first time i tied dips in the rings?couldn't even do 1,i still can't get past 10....so it's much much harder...,but that's my personal take on it Hope that helps
The extra range of motion you get from rings allows you to adduct your arms in, which in turns allows better contraction of the chest. Also, it is a lot safer to perform dips on rings once you've learned how to properly stabilize.
Sensei, I love this video. And you know me, with all the questions... When you start with parallel bar dips, would you suggest progressing to strap/ring dips immediately after mastering parallel bar dips, or would you progress to straight bar dips and harder stable variations (like Korean dips) before going to straps/rings?
I always start people on strap dips once they can do more than 10 bar dips. I just start them holding the top of the dip position for at least 30 seconds and then work on lowering themselves down into a single rep.
RedDeltaproject Thanks for giving such a straightforward answer. I've been thinking of advancing from parallel bars to a straight bar for dips, but if you can do that kind of movement with straps, why not do that, right? As always, you're the greatest.
I started on bars, after doing rings dips for a month, I doubled my bar output, I got so much stronger on rings
Good to know, I pretty much stick to the rings/straps these days unless I'm working with some sort of a fatigue issue.
You are very passionate about what you do. It totally comes with your enthusiasm. I like it. Thank you.
After going as high as +40 kgs on bar dips, i tried ring dips. I struggled to do 3 reps a set on rings to begin with. Totally different challenge.
I also improved much faster on rings than i ever did on bars. Obviously activates muscles better. That alone makes ring dips superior.
I know just what you mean. I pretty much always try to get the ring variations when I can. The bars just feel like cheating now
@@RedDeltaProjectFor pushing exercises i believe the key to building the most efficient muscles is using unstable surfaces. Rings/TRX is my favourite piece of fitness equipment!
great stuff ...this is currently my dilema and answers my questions ...thanks a lot
Keep em c'in!
I can do 34 dips on a dip bar but only 22 on rings. The stabilization needed for the rings is ridiculous.
Sounds about right, I figure rings add about 30% additional difficulty.
Rings are superior for the core
Which complements building bar strength which is superior for building the upper body.
I have a strange feeling you are talking to me when you said "my friend". ;-) LOL
Any videos on dip progressions!! Thanks!! Great video!
I'm got tons, here's one to get started with for push-ups:
ruclips.net/user/edit?o=U&video_id=5j7ZYmE0gP0
ruclips.net/video/5j7ZYmE0gP0/видео.html
I have a question man, i'm actually using bar dips and don't struggle to do "chest dips" (leaning forward to focus chest) and "triceps dips" and i want to know, is it easy to perform these kind of variations on rings ?
It's much harder to do them on rings due to the inherent instability, but that's a good thing. Sometimes, I recommend doing ring dips over weighted bar dips.
Due to the stabilizing factor that the rings lack are the muscle that are worked with bar dips worked more with ring dips or the only thing that changes is the fact that you work the stabilizing muscles more?
Sort of, technically, there's no such thing as a stabilizer muscle so it's not like you're working different muscles with bars vs rings. But you are using tension to create more stability which requires more strength.
@@RedDeltaProject Thanks a lot I appreciate you took the time to answer my question,keep up the good work!!
do ring dips build more muscle than the bar counterpart?
I guess you could make an argument either way. Less stability requires more tension and fatigues the muscles faster. But you could say more stability in solid bars might make it easier to keep pushing to a higher level of fatigue. I think, either way, the important thing is to be consistent with what you're doing and aiming to add reps and/or tension over time.
mercurySS my personal experience?is that i could 50+dips on bars....first time i tied dips in the rings?couldn't even do 1,i still can't get past 10....so it's much much harder...,but that's my personal take on it
Hope that helps
The extra range of motion you get from rings allows you to adduct your arms in, which in turns allows better contraction of the chest. Also, it is a lot safer to perform dips on rings once you've learned how to properly stabilize.
Sensei, I love this video. And you know me, with all the questions...
When you start with parallel bar dips, would you suggest progressing to strap/ring dips immediately after mastering parallel bar dips, or would you progress to straight bar dips and harder stable variations (like Korean dips) before going to straps/rings?
I always start people on strap dips once they can do more than 10 bar dips. I just start them holding the top of the dip position for at least 30 seconds and then work on lowering themselves down into a single rep.
RedDeltaproject
Thanks for giving such a straightforward answer. I've been thinking of advancing from parallel bars to a straight bar for dips, but if you can do that kind of movement with straps, why not do that, right?
As always, you're the greatest.