Pre-capture is a great feature. Some of these are implemented better then others that is for sure. Either way its a great thing to have. Helps you get shots you would never get otherwise.
Not a Sony shooter, but seems to me it's a bit early to critique a product before it's announced and the true specifications are released. On cost, every camera maker has raised prices, including Canon. Canon's pricing on their new hybrid lenses are ridiculously high.
The a1ii’s main competition is the Z9 and the R5ii. Can’t wait til it drops so we can see them being compared. What I’ll say is that you’re really splitting hairs, because they all have their merits and if you can’t get the shot with any of those 3, the camera isn’t the problem.
You make an excellent observation. The Nikon Z9, Canon R5 Mk2, and Sony A1 Mk2 are all capable cameras. Buy the one you prefer and go take some photos!
Morning Simon! Great video as always. Good to hear you are loving your new R5 II. I am somewhat jealous because of the 4k120 and Clog 2. Otherwise I'm so content with the R6 II.
In regard to the batterygrip I will favor the ability to remove it to reduce the form factor over a fixed grip. I have several Full frame bodies but only one with a grip. Even with the 600 f/4.0 I favour the one without grip and gladly replace the battery if exhausted. Premium price is seen in several brands even if not up to premium results. Some will not care and we are already so high up in cost already. I think it would matter more if a product was prices at 1000 USD and then was increased to 2000 USD rather than a high cost item that got a price increase along with quite hefty added hardware. I will call revolution on this in the sense that a leader in speed found more improvements in memory, AI, video , fps, body design, pre capture and surely more of the minor but for many important focus stack, breathing comp, and many many more extensions and improvement. Quite curious if they manage to improve the read out speed from sensor to memory.
Yes this will the evolutionary upgrade I’ve been talking about for over a year. It’ll have the a1’s original sensor but it will be fully unleashed to 60fps which is that sensor’s top output on its spec sheet. and it will be the a9 III’s body. It will have the AI chip, bigger buffer, and better processing of the a9 III. It will not be everyone’s upgrade. I love my a1 and 30fps at full resolution is enough for me so I will be waiting for the next revolutionary upgrade of the a1IV.. evolutionary upgrades usually go up $500 and the revolutionary upgrades go u9 a grand usually.. I expect it to be no more than $6999 at the very most, but they may keep it at $6500.. and the original go down to $5999 msrp. You can get the a1 now at certain times for $5495 with the EDU discount.
It appears the Sony a1ii will be evolutionary more than revolutionary. Amazing camera! But . . . amazing price. The a1ii's closest competitor is the Canon R5ii and the price difference makes the expensive R5ii look like a relative bargain!
@@scb2scb2 I think Sony's pricing is Pro-oriented. If you need the advantage and you are getting paid for results (p-a-i-d -- keep that word burned in your head), then you know you will earn the money back soon enough. The news agencies in particular will be in the first orders. If you don't NEED the advantages, then heck, just don't buy. Used bodies will become available in about a year anyway. If the camera doesn't sell out at their current prices and Sony is able to drop the prices, then they will. Notice how often that has happened (very rarely)? As for me, my main Sony camera is an a6400. Why don't I have something more expensive? I don't need it. For action photography I have a Lumix G85 and an a couple of camcorders. Camcorders? Sure. I can grab frames. Better high priced bodies can do better, but nobodies paying me for those images, so I do what I can afford. Simple choices: $X gets me this much capabilities. . . .
The lack of physical configurable buttons to map functions the heck whatever you want, no to mention quickly switch between settings and pre-configured setups makes my Nikon Z8 smirk… 🤭😏
I’m going to want a thorough a1ii vs. a7Rv comparison. If the primary differences in the a1ii are less rolling shutter and >10 frames per second… those aren’t important to my use cases.
No, it's pointless and it would decrease DR, you don't want to upgrade camera with downgrading this or that. It has to be flasgship, BEST FLAGSHIP on the market.
@@joylandimmanuel9975 For sure A1 mark III will be Global Shutter. Sony has to work on this just more years, to improve it. It has too much cons for that movement today.
It should be called the A1a, not the A1 II. It's a upgrade mostly with the AI chip. Doubt much else other then proper Pre Capture and maybe just a little better Video specs. Overhyped for sure.
Overhyped? Where's the hype??? 😂 😂 😂 Nobody's talking about this, except for rumors channels, and most of them said nothing yet 😂 Also, you're already judging without even knowing full specs or how it works in real life 😂
@@natureredux1957 So YOU'RE the one hyping it 😂 Almost no one said nothing about it, but you already have an opinion about it. Hyping is when a manufacturer starts talking extensively about the new product, without revealing too much but giving some info (Canon R1 is a perfect example). For some reason you feel hurt so now you're trying to make a case for it to be a bad camera (too expensive, just an evolution, not a revolution and all that c*ap). If you don't want it, don't buy it, as simple as that. And even better, stop talking about it! 😂😂😂
@@ryanvacation7319 Yes, That's what I thought so too. I meant you can't really cheat physics. Also sony can't make big bulky lens physically because E-mount is smaller than RF lens.
WHOEVER waits for A7-V, prepare it will be 500$ more expensive than A7-IV was at release date. I said clearly A1 II will be at least 1k$ more expenesive than A1, and that's Sony politics, to not decrease prices. Some of people didn't believe, now they are shocked it will be indeed 1k$ more expensive than A1. The same will be with A7-V, and I say it might be more expensive about 500 to 750$ more than A7-IV, so, collect your cash. Still you might not believe my words.
It sounds like Sony may finally catch up to Canon... in overheating. There's no doubt that Gen 4 cards have to generate more heat. If Sony hasn't done anything to improve thermal architecture, it seems likely that they will begin to share the fun. Ansel Adams said, "A good photograph is knowing where to stand". What most people don't understand yet is that when the camera's AI changes the subject, your composition changes. When the bird moves, your AF may keep it in focus, but if you aren't moving the barrel the bird winds up at the edge of the frame. You may have an in-focus subject, but the shot will often be poorly composed. That may not matter as much for sports shots, but for everything else you either have to crop or live with a poorly composed image. (Which is fine, if you aspire to mediocrity.) At least the A1 ii will have 50mp to allow for cropping. Other than sports photography, these new features aren't the end-all many people think they are. The camera can't effectively change subjects in baseball. It won't help golf photography. Would you really want it to switch subjects to a different race car whizzing by? Fast-moving birds wind up at the edge of the frame, with clipped wings, unless you're moving the camera to stay with them. The question most people should ask, but probably won't is, Will is help YOUR photography that often? A few of you will look back and remember that some guy in a comments section warned about this.
1. You said it well: IF Sony changed nothing about A1s thermal architecture... That's a big IF. We'll have to wait and see. 2. Thus is not a camera for everyone. All the things you said about sports and birds in flight are true, but it looks like you're expecting a camera that's going to do everything for the one shooting - and then something like that could be expensive. With cameras like A1 and Z9, shooting fast moving subjects is much better than shooting them with, say, A7Rv or Z7ii. Hence the cost.
@@urosjovanovic3142 I appreciate what you said, so don't take this the wrong way. I'm sort of the opposite - I don't think a camera can do everything for the one shooting. (I wouldn't want one to do that, even if I thought it was possible.) But I think a lot of people DO think that's going to happen, and I keep trying to point out the pitfalls to that expectation. Mostly I'm just trying to alert people who are thinking about what they can an cannot expect with the new AI features in cameras. Even in sports photography... imagine scoring courtside seats to a Laker game, and trying to get unique shots of LeBron coming down the floor. Would you really want to be shooting so wide that the AI autofocus can switch to the player he passes to? That kind of generalized photo might be good for capturing the game of basketball, but not at all good for making a study of individual athletes. I guess it's all about what you want, but I have to believe that most people, deep down, don't want to take homogenized, generalized "pitchers", even if the person with the ball is perfectly in focus. But I could be wrong. I realized a while back that I had been devoting my time to birds, and had become very much a "technician" rather than an artist. I was getting lots of cool pictures that were lifeless and flat, but technically very impressive. It's a lot like the new music featuring drum tracks and auto-tune. Technically accurate, but without any soul. I'm getting close to the end of my own photographic journey, and I'm determined to make the remainder count. If I can pass along anything of value to a next generation, even better.
So Canon has cheaper high-end cameras but expensive RF lenses, and Sony has expensive flagship cameras and relatively cheaper lenses. Both companies will get you one way or another.
There are very cheap battery grips by 3rd party vendors. Not an issue as you presume. Also, not a fan of rumors as it is a hit and miss operation. And I can't afford the A1 ii anyway.
It is nice that they can provide a card slot that takes both CFExpress A and SD cards but it’s beginning to feel like another “Betamax” from Sony. As the speed increases the smaller form factor compared to the type B cards has less surface area to dissipate the heat generated. $1000 USD price increase is a no from me unless there’s some wow tech in it that has not been leaked.
Sony seriously needs to think this through because if they price this camera between $7000 and $7500 it will be a hard sell. Canon and Nikon are being too price aggressive for Sony to pull this one off, especially in this economy. Even the Canon R1 at $6299 will seem like a bargain. I think Sony being Sony will probably keep the regular A1 at $6500, which will be stupid because with the current competition from Canon and Nikon, the A1 II and even the regular A1 will be highly over priced. This will allow Nikon a huge in road with a Z9 II at under $6000. If Canon allowed third party full frame lenses support through Tamron and Sigma they could clean house and take huge market share away from Sony, which would force price reductions. Canon is still technically in the number one spot.
It won't be a hard sell. The camera is aimed at professionals, and the difference is just the cost of doing business. It is not intended for consumers.
@@Tugela60 It will be a hard sell. Our company shoots professionally. You pay for cameras with actual work and professionals don't upgrade as much as the general public. I know people still shooting on Nikon D700, D800 and Canon 5d mark IIIs. You will have certain clients that will demand, especially for video a RED or an ARRI or etc. because they know what they want or clients that want a medium format camera for a product shoot, but you can rent them, they are not always bought. Some clients want a bigger camera to justify your price as well and this is why some buy them, but they charge the client for the privileged and they shoot other stuff for regular work that doesn't pay as well. As a professional, you ask yourself, what does this bring to the table that you don't already have, how does it improve your workflow. We see lighting, modifiers, and the ability to tell a story as far more important than a camera body. Lighting and modifiers we will buy. Sony sells far more A7III (still) and A7IVs than A1s. It's not the camera that gets you the work, it's the skill that you possess.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker People buy cameras based on what lenses they have or are planning to invest in. You are not going to switch ecosystems just because of a few thousand dollar differential in a body, not for the sort of people this camera is targeted at.
The sensor in a1 is not just BSI it is also stacked.
November 19th will be a great day for Sony A1 shooters, being able to upgrade to the A1 II. Thanks, Simon!
Screw the specs !! Lower the price of cameras !! 🥴
Earn more money!
@ I don’t need too I own enough high end cameras to know what I want
Pre-capture is a great feature. Some of these are implemented better then others that is for sure. Either way its a great thing to have. Helps you get shots you would never get otherwise.
Not a Sony shooter, but seems to me it's a bit early to critique a product before it's announced and the true specifications are released. On cost, every camera maker has raised prices, including Canon. Canon's pricing on their new hybrid lenses are ridiculously high.
I guess Nikon is the only camera manufacturer that lowered it's prices. Will have to wait for Z9II to see if it was just temporary.
@@urosjovanovic3142 rather Z8 II, 95% of people prefer lighter bodies.
The a1ii’s main competition is the Z9 and the R5ii. Can’t wait til it drops so we can see them being compared. What I’ll say is that you’re really splitting hairs, because they all have their merits and if you can’t get the shot with any of those 3, the camera isn’t the problem.
You make an excellent observation. The Nikon Z9, Canon R5 Mk2, and Sony A1 Mk2 are all capable cameras. Buy the one you prefer and go take some photos!
Once again the best camera to date. Goes to show the A1 was way ahead of it's time. A jealous Canon shooter, I am😊!!!
Hey just a heads up B&H has the canon rf 200-800 in stock and is shipping same day!!
May want to get that link up….
informative news thanks Simon.
Morning Simon! Great video as always. Good to hear you are loving your new R5 II. I am somewhat jealous because of the 4k120 and Clog 2. Otherwise I'm so content with the R6 II.
Enjoy your R6 II. When you're ready to upgrade, CL2 will be there for you and at a discounted price ;)
In regard to the batterygrip I will favor the ability to remove it to reduce the form factor over a fixed grip. I have several Full frame bodies but only one with a grip. Even with the 600 f/4.0 I favour the one without grip and gladly replace the battery if exhausted. Premium price is seen in several brands even if not up to premium results. Some will not care and we are already so high up in cost already. I think it would matter more if a product was prices at 1000 USD and then was increased to 2000 USD rather than a high cost item that got a price increase along with quite hefty added hardware. I will call revolution on this in the sense that a leader in speed found more improvements in memory, AI, video , fps, body design, pre capture and surely more of the minor but for many important focus stack, breathing comp, and many many more extensions and improvement. Quite curious if they manage to improve the read out speed from sensor to memory.
Yes this will the evolutionary upgrade I’ve been talking about for over a year. It’ll have the a1’s original sensor but it will be fully unleashed to 60fps which is that sensor’s top output on its spec sheet. and it will be the a9 III’s body. It will have the AI chip, bigger buffer, and better processing of the a9 III. It will not be everyone’s upgrade. I love my a1 and 30fps at full resolution is enough for me so I will be waiting for the next revolutionary upgrade of the a1IV.. evolutionary upgrades usually go up $500 and the revolutionary upgrades go u9 a grand usually.. I expect it to be no more than $6999 at the very most, but they may keep it at $6500.. and the original go down to $5999 msrp. You can get the a1 now at certain times for $5495 with the EDU discount.
Looking forward to the upgrade 🎉
It appears the Sony a1ii will be evolutionary more than revolutionary. Amazing camera! But . . . amazing price. The a1ii's closest competitor is the Canon R5ii and the price difference makes the expensive R5ii look like a relative bargain!
@@scb2scb2 I think Sony's pricing is Pro-oriented. If you need the advantage and you are getting paid for results (p-a-i-d -- keep that word burned in your head), then you know you will earn the money back soon enough. The news agencies in particular will be in the first orders. If you don't NEED the advantages, then heck, just don't buy. Used bodies will become available in about a year anyway. If the camera doesn't sell out at their current prices and Sony is able to drop the prices, then they will. Notice how often that has happened (very rarely)? As for me, my main Sony camera is an a6400. Why don't I have something more expensive? I don't need it. For action photography I have a Lumix G85 and an a couple of camcorders. Camcorders? Sure. I can grab frames. Better high priced bodies can do better, but nobodies paying me for those images, so I do what I can afford. Simple choices: $X gets me this much capabilities. . . .
The lack of physical configurable buttons to map functions the heck whatever you want, no to mention quickly switch between settings and pre-configured setups makes my Nikon Z8 smirk… 🤭😏
I’m going to want a thorough a1ii vs. a7Rv comparison.
If the primary differences in the a1ii are less rolling shutter and >10 frames per second… those aren’t important to my use cases.
Cheers Simon
Cheers mate!
Fuji xh3s for Christmas? Or is that wishful thinking?
no Global Shutter? 😢
The a9 has that.
No, it's pointless and it would decrease DR, you don't want to upgrade camera with downgrading this or that. It has to be flasgship, BEST FLAGSHIP on the market.
@@pentagramyt417 okay then thank you for The Knowledge😇
@@joylandimmanuel9975 For sure A1 mark III will be Global Shutter. Sony has to work on this just more years, to improve it. It has too much cons for that movement today.
TVs, consoles, cameras, seems like SONY is just raising prices all across the board lol.
It should be called the A1a, not the A1 II. It's a upgrade mostly with the AI chip. Doubt much else other then proper Pre Capture and maybe just a little better Video specs. Overhyped for sure.
Overhyped? Where's the hype??? 😂 😂 😂 Nobody's talking about this, except for rumors channels, and most of them said nothing yet 😂 Also, you're already judging without even knowing full specs or how it works in real life 😂
The electronics are upgraded. A camera is more than just a sensor.
@@Tugela60 Where did I focus on the sensor. Where are the upgrades other then the AI chip.
@@urosjovanovic3142 Well that's the very definition of HYPE, before a camera even comes out. LOL. Before anyone even knows the REAL specs. LOL.
@@natureredux1957 So YOU'RE the one hyping it 😂 Almost no one said nothing about it, but you already have an opinion about it. Hyping is when a manufacturer starts talking extensively about the new product, without revealing too much but giving some info (Canon R1 is a perfect example). For some reason you feel hurt so now you're trying to make a case for it to be a bad camera (too expensive, just an evolution, not a revolution and all that c*ap). If you don't want it, don't buy it, as simple as that. And even better, stop talking about it! 😂😂😂
my main question is how does sony pulled off 500g lighter 28-70 F2 ?
Probably it won’t be optically perfect but rather depend on in camera or software lens correction.
@@ryanvacation7319 Yes, That's what I thought so too. I meant you can't really cheat physics. Also sony can't make big bulky lens physically because E-mount is smaller than RF lens.
Will be interesting to see whether Sony can deliver to their 'shooters' something more than the usual piece of paper with high numbers on it.
LOL 😂 😂 😂
WHOEVER waits for A7-V, prepare it will be 500$ more expensive than A7-IV was at release date.
I said clearly A1 II will be at least 1k$ more expenesive than A1, and that's Sony politics, to not decrease prices.
Some of people didn't believe, now they are shocked it will be indeed 1k$ more expensive than A1.
The same will be with A7-V, and I say it might be more expensive about 500 to 750$ more than A7-IV, so, collect your cash. Still you might not believe my words.
The camera looks amazing, I cannot wait to see how all of this tech trickles down to the a7 V that will arrive in 2025.
Leaked specs of the a9 II do you guys even proof read your stuff???????????????????????
He said it is the a1 mark 2
@Tugela60 did you read the thumbnail?
@michaelmiller7928 So there is a typo in one spot, so what? Did you read the rest of the thumbnail and watch the video?
Indeed Simon, the a1ii will be one of the hottest new cameras of the year ;-)
And to add for those of us blessed with that $350k+ income than we really don’t care how much it costs as it’s just a few days work anyway
It sounds like Sony may finally catch up to Canon... in overheating. There's no doubt that Gen 4 cards have to generate more heat. If Sony hasn't done anything to improve thermal architecture, it seems likely that they will begin to share the fun.
Ansel Adams said, "A good photograph is knowing where to stand". What most people don't understand yet is that when the camera's AI changes the subject, your composition changes. When the bird moves, your AF may keep it in focus, but if you aren't moving the barrel the bird winds up at the edge of the frame. You may have an in-focus subject, but the shot will often be poorly composed. That may not matter as much for sports shots, but for everything else you either have to crop or live with a poorly composed image. (Which is fine, if you aspire to mediocrity.) At least the A1 ii will have 50mp to allow for cropping.
Other than sports photography, these new features aren't the end-all many people think they are. The camera can't effectively change subjects in baseball. It won't help golf photography. Would you really want it to switch subjects to a different race car whizzing by? Fast-moving birds wind up at the edge of the frame, with clipped wings, unless you're moving the camera to stay with them. The question most people should ask, but probably won't is, Will is help YOUR photography that often? A few of you will look back and remember that some guy in a comments section warned about this.
1. You said it well: IF Sony changed nothing about A1s thermal architecture... That's a big IF. We'll have to wait and see.
2. Thus is not a camera for everyone. All the things you said about sports and birds in flight are true, but it looks like you're expecting a camera that's going to do everything for the one shooting - and then something like that could be expensive. With cameras like A1 and Z9, shooting fast moving subjects is much better than shooting them with, say, A7Rv or Z7ii. Hence the cost.
@@urosjovanovic3142 I appreciate what you said, so don't take this the wrong way. I'm sort of the opposite - I don't think a camera can do everything for the one shooting. (I wouldn't want one to do that, even if I thought it was possible.) But I think a lot of people DO think that's going to happen, and I keep trying to point out the pitfalls to that expectation. Mostly I'm just trying to alert people who are thinking about what they can an cannot expect with the new AI features in cameras.
Even in sports photography... imagine scoring courtside seats to a Laker game, and trying to get unique shots of LeBron coming down the floor. Would you really want to be shooting so wide that the AI autofocus can switch to the player he passes to? That kind of generalized photo might be good for capturing the game of basketball, but not at all good for making a study of individual athletes. I guess it's all about what you want, but I have to believe that most people, deep down, don't want to take homogenized, generalized "pitchers", even if the person with the ball is perfectly in focus. But I could be wrong.
I realized a while back that I had been devoting my time to birds, and had become very much a "technician" rather than an artist. I was getting lots of cool pictures that were lifeless and flat, but technically very impressive. It's a lot like the new music featuring drum tracks and auto-tune. Technically accurate, but without any soul. I'm getting close to the end of my own photographic journey, and I'm determined to make the remainder count. If I can pass along anything of value to a next generation, even better.
So Canon has cheaper high-end cameras but expensive RF lenses, and Sony has expensive flagship cameras and relatively cheaper lenses. Both companies will get you one way or another.
There are very cheap battery grips by 3rd party vendors. Not an issue as you presume. Also, not a fan of rumors as it is a hit and miss operation. And I can't afford the A1 ii anyway.
It is nice that they can provide a card slot that takes both CFExpress A and SD cards but it’s beginning to feel like another “Betamax” from Sony. As the speed increases the smaller form factor compared to the type B cards has less surface area to dissipate the heat generated. $1000 USD price increase is a no from me unless there’s some wow tech in it that has not been leaked.
Sony seriously needs to think this through because if they price this camera between $7000 and $7500 it will be a hard sell. Canon and Nikon are being too price aggressive for Sony to pull this one off, especially in this economy. Even the Canon R1 at $6299 will seem like a bargain.
I think Sony being Sony will probably keep the regular A1 at $6500, which will be stupid because with the current competition from Canon and Nikon, the A1 II and even the regular A1 will be highly over priced. This will allow Nikon a huge in road with a Z9 II at under $6000.
If Canon allowed third party full frame lenses support through Tamron and Sigma they could clean house and take huge market share away from Sony, which would force price reductions. Canon is still technically in the number one spot.
It won't be a hard sell. The camera is aimed at professionals, and the difference is just the cost of doing business. It is not intended for consumers.
@@Tugela60 It will be a hard sell. Our company shoots professionally. You pay for cameras with actual work and professionals don't upgrade as much as the general public. I know people still shooting on Nikon D700, D800 and Canon 5d mark IIIs. You will have certain clients that will demand, especially for video a RED or an ARRI or etc. because they know what they want or clients that want a medium format camera for a product shoot, but you can rent them, they are not always bought. Some clients want a bigger camera to justify your price as well and this is why some buy them, but they charge the client for the privileged and they shoot other stuff for regular work that doesn't pay as well.
As a professional, you ask yourself, what does this bring to the table that you don't already have, how does it improve your workflow. We see lighting, modifiers, and the ability to tell a story as far more important than a camera body. Lighting and modifiers we will buy. Sony sells far more A7III (still) and A7IVs than A1s. It's not the camera that gets you the work, it's the skill that you possess.
One can't expect to sell well when your customers see the competition between $1000 to $2000 less. That will cause some to think of migration.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker People buy cameras based on what lenses they have or are planning to invest in. You are not going to switch ecosystems just because of a few thousand dollar differential in a body, not for the sort of people this camera is targeted at.
Wow but I'll pass.
The original A1 was overpriced IMO. $1000 on top of that? Sony users are gonna scream.
another garbage expensive camera vs r5ii 4200$
Then buy trash expensive lenses and overheating as 😂
@@hari_fyi so r5ii plus a top notch lens equally price to this sony a1ii
The R5 series can’t compete with the existing A1! 😅
@@Ph-uw2ilR5mkii is not even in the same category 😂😂😂
@@Ph-uw2il wait you forgot R1 already? 🤣 Ever heard of third party lenses 🤣😁