That's what it sounds like and by the way that's exactly what my husband and I have done and it's been 2 months and the only thing they have done is now delay his first court date by another 6 weeks! This is absolutely outrageous and incredibly damaging to both the victim and the person accused.
Just listening to this entire video makes women not want to call the police on their abusers and put up with the trauma, placing them at higher risk in danger because you’re implying that they “need” a lawyer or you’re going to go through more bs. Your message was too pushy about hiring a lawyer for every situation that no average blue collar worker could afford, especially nowadays. The video has good content information; however, you seem very hungry for clients. So much for protecting the vulnerable victim.
Lets all help to not make the government and lawyers make money of us and just get along because trust me, they loveeee charging people for domestic violence, its the easiest way for them to make thousands over a simple arguement. They take advantage of people who are vulnerable. If this is an example of canadian problem solving, then our country, government and culture is pathetic
My boyfriend complained to a friend about a minor argument we had. This "friend" made an exaggerated report against me. Neither of us wanted charges and well - now I have a no contact order and im kicked out of my place. Staying at a shelter now, even though charges will be dropped well have to convince the crown attorney that the very helpful report is false. The fact that anybody could make a baseless anonymous report on a couple and be proud about it makes me sick.
Yes that law needs to be addressed. The crown doesn't care for the victim nor the aggressor especially if it means finically ruining both parties. They just want their numbers up.
No contact is made to destroy unhealthy relationships. My gf went to the cops on me, got out on bail next day, in 3 weeks we were in public and she got mad at me in public and was yelling, police show up out of nowhere and i went to jail for 3 weeks. Would have been there till trial if it wasnt for my lawyer. As much as I wanna talk to her, i cant put my freedom in her hands again. I hope she miss me
Yup, If you are the respondent in a no contact order, you better consult an attorney and abide strictly to the terms of that order. The petitioner cannot “give you permission” to contact them while that order is in effect. No contact means no contact. Often the petitioner will allow contact (on the down low) and just not report the contact to law enforcement. However, all it takes is the petitioner suddenly deciding that contact is unwanted and reports it. A nosey neighbor or a family member who is aware of the no contact order and gets wind of the contact can also report it. The bottom line is that if a respondent violates the order, the circumstances don’t matter. You will be arrested and most likely taken to jail.
@@thomasross3890yuppp , my babymomma put order protection against her and my 2 year old son , we have different partners but I’ll be damn if I give in and try to contact her . I rather suffer by wondering how my son is doing than go to jail and lose my cdl license
Are there not any Constitutional problems or cases before the court with these depending on the circumstances, ie. cruel an unusual punishment and lack of or no due process? I ask in the case that the end result where after 5 to 6 months it gets put on the record that 'no criminal offence whatsoever took place' and the charge(s) are withdrawn. Can one sue for damages in cases like these and if that is the case, what are the possible outcomes and odds of success?
Ya this whole no contact orders is complete bullshit. Based on the research that I have done, many people are suffering unnecessarily as a result of this policy. I can safely say this is doing a massive amount of harm.
Yep, my girl called because she thought that the police would calm the situation down. Eben tho she was beating me first and all I did was push her back and yelled at her. They charged me regardless and now I can't even see her until it's done. Which could take a year. This is completely destroying our lives because she decided to make one phone call
Can I get some advice regarding my case for free if I call? I'm the victim in a domestic case and need help in what I can do and what the possible scenarios are in my case. I don't have a lot of money, thanks.
@@shaffielawyeah my baby momma put a order protection against me so I can’t even visit my son ( 2 years old) we live separately and the first court date I showed up with a lawyer and she didn’t so the judge gave her a month to get a lawyer but my lawyer even offered her to help her out but I think she did that to try to convince her to drop it since it’s not true and so it doesn’t go in my record or lose my cdl license
Well what I can tell you from experience is in BC they don't always get enforced my ex was allowed to stalk me and harass my family call the police to report it dispatch says it's a breach then an hour later some other douche cop calls back and says they don't care intimidation tactics are allowed. That's how court cases get lost too witness don't want to testify and sometimes victims get murdered also due to lack of due diligence and law enforcement also. Courts are stupid if they think giving bail conditions means criminals will abide by them.
Well what I can tell you from experience is in BC they don't always get enforced my ex was allowed to stalk me and harass my family call the police to report it dispatch says it's a breach then an hour later some other douche cop calls back and says they don't care intimidation tactics are allowed. That's how court cases get lost too witness don't want to testify and sometimes victims get murdered also due to lack of due diligence and law enforcement also. Courts are stupid if they think giving bail conditions means criminals will abide by them.
my daughters partner wants his dropped in an attempt to lesson the time hes looking at for dv strangulation while my daughter was only 8 weeks pregnant. hes manipulative and extremely dangerous as this lethal attack was his first attack on her..he has no respect got the law and uses other inmate accounts to intimidate and contact my daughter.. this is extremely traumatizing to my entire family within the same household..
That request has to be initiated by the petitioner. The respondent has little to no input on getting a no contact order dropped. Even if the petitioner requests to have one removed, it’s entirely up to a Judges decision. The Judge will normally want to see some kind of proof that both parties are attending required classes (battery prevention), a mental health evaluation from one or both parties, and individual counseling. The primary purpose of a no contact order is to provide safety to the petitioner. Until a judge is satisfied that the threat to their safety is no longer an issue and that both parties are actively moving towards reconciliation, they are very unlikely to amend or remove the order.
Yep! 👍🏼 Once a case is terminated the conditions cease to be in effect -- unless the court imposes another form of contact restriction, like a peace bond 😬
The law is the same across Canada, but how it’s applied by law enforcement and prosecutors in British Columbia may be different. Check with your local criminal defence lawyer! 👍🏼
Great question. Unfortunately, there's no one-size fits all timeline. Getting the order lifted depends on multiple factors including the seriousness of the allegations; up-front done work by the client; the position of the complainant; the sensibility of the Crown; and yes, budget. Best to get a skilled criminal lawyer on board to help you.
So both parties need to get a good lawyer and pay thousands of dollars just to remove the oppressive order that comes from a hostile prosecutor.
That's what it sounds like and by the way that's exactly what my husband and I have done and it's been 2 months and the only thing they have done is now delay his first court date by another 6 weeks! This is absolutely outrageous and incredibly damaging to both the victim and the person accused.
Next time think before crying wolf
No sorry men needs to stop hitting women
Want to tell you something nd need help
Feel free to call: 647-500-5186.
Maybe these men, that want to get rid of these no contact orders, should think about their actions towards their significant other next time.
Just listening to this entire video makes women not want to call the police on their abusers and put up with the trauma, placing them at higher risk in danger because you’re implying that they “need” a lawyer or you’re going to go through more bs. Your message was too pushy about hiring a lawyer for every situation that no average blue collar worker could afford, especially nowadays. The video has good content information; however, you seem very hungry for clients. So much for protecting the vulnerable victim.
Lets all help to not make the government and lawyers make money of us and just get along because trust me, they loveeee charging people for domestic violence, its the easiest way for them to make thousands over a simple arguement. They take advantage of people who are vulnerable. If this is an example of canadian problem solving, then our country, government and culture is pathetic
My boyfriend complained to a friend about a minor argument we had. This "friend" made an exaggerated report against me. Neither of us wanted charges and well - now I have a no contact order and im kicked out of my place. Staying at a shelter now, even though charges will be dropped well have to convince the crown attorney that the very helpful report is false.
The fact that anybody could make a baseless anonymous report on a couple and be proud about it makes me sick.
Yes that law needs to be addressed. The crown doesn't care for the victim nor the aggressor especially if it means finically ruining both parties. They just want their numbers up.
No contact is made to destroy unhealthy relationships. My gf went to the cops on me, got out on bail next day, in 3 weeks we were in public and she got mad at me in public and was yelling, police show up out of nowhere and i went to jail for 3 weeks. Would have been there till trial if it wasnt for my lawyer. As much as I wanna talk to her, i cant put my freedom in her hands again. I hope she miss me
Yup, If you are the respondent in a no contact order, you better consult an attorney and abide strictly to the terms of that order. The petitioner cannot “give you permission” to contact them while that order is in effect. No contact means no contact. Often the petitioner will allow contact (on the down low) and just not report the contact to law enforcement. However, all it takes is the petitioner suddenly deciding that contact is unwanted and reports it. A nosey neighbor or a family member who is aware of the no contact order and gets wind of the contact can also report it. The bottom line is that if a respondent violates the order, the circumstances don’t matter. You will be arrested and most likely taken to jail.
Yup i trusted her and was begging her to stop yelling in public. She did me dirty
@@thomasross3890yuppp , my babymomma put order protection against her and my 2 year old son , we have different partners but I’ll be damn if I give in and try to contact her . I rather suffer by wondering how my son is doing than go to jail and lose my cdl license
She's on bail why were you in Jail?
@@W333dm4n you probably did More than yell at her
Are there not any Constitutional problems or cases before the court with these depending on the circumstances, ie. cruel an unusual punishment and lack of or no due process? I ask in the case that the end result where after 5 to 6 months it gets put on the record that 'no criminal offence whatsoever took place' and the charge(s) are withdrawn. Can one sue for damages in cases like these and if that is the case, what are the possible outcomes and odds of success?
United non compliance is the way to go in these situations.
Ya this whole no contact orders is complete bullshit. Based on the research that I have done, many people are suffering unnecessarily as a result of this policy. I can safely say this is doing a massive amount of harm.
Yep, my girl called because she thought that the police would calm the situation down. Eben tho she was beating me first and all I did was push her back and yelled at her. They charged me regardless and now I can't even see her until it's done. Which could take a year.
This is completely destroying our lives because she decided to make one phone call
Can I get some advice regarding my case for free if I call? I'm the victim in a domestic case and need help in what I can do and what the possible scenarios are in my case. I don't have a lot of money, thanks.
That law no kind, family sometimes we need help from each other
Is there is a any way to contact back each other incase opposing spouse is willing to be get together.
Good question: not while there's a no contact order in place. Best to consult with a criminal lawyer. Check out our other videos on the topic.
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@@shaffielawyeah my baby momma put a order protection against me so I can’t even visit my son ( 2 years old) we live separately and the first court date I showed up with a lawyer and she didn’t so the judge gave her a month to get a lawyer but my lawyer even offered her to help her out but I think she did that to try to convince her to drop it since it’s not true and so it doesn’t go in my record or lose my cdl license
How about mutual non contact order option, after epo was in place for 8 months. My layer ask if I want to accept it, he was asked by crowns layer???
Well what I can tell you from experience is in BC they don't always get enforced my ex was allowed to stalk me and harass my family call the police to report it dispatch says it's a breach then an hour later some other douche cop calls back and says they don't care intimidation tactics are allowed. That's how court cases get lost too witness don't want to testify and sometimes victims get murdered also due to lack of due diligence and law enforcement also. Courts are stupid if they think giving bail conditions means criminals will abide by them.
Well what I can tell you from experience is in BC they don't always get enforced my ex was allowed to stalk me and harass my family call the police to report it dispatch says it's a breach then an hour later some other douche cop calls back and says they don't care intimidation tactics are allowed. That's how court cases get lost too witness don't want to testify and sometimes victims get murdered also due to lack of due diligence and law enforcement also. Courts are stupid if they think giving bail conditions means criminals will abide by them.
my daughters partner wants his dropped in an attempt to lesson the time hes looking at for dv strangulation while my daughter was only 8 weeks pregnant. hes manipulative and extremely dangerous as this lethal attack was his first attack on her..he has no respect got the law and uses other inmate accounts to intimidate and contact my daughter.. this is extremely traumatizing to my entire family within the same household..
And you saying that America country of the freedom??!!!
This isnt an American video lmao
What would be a good way to Encourage a judge to drop the nocontact order?
That request has to be initiated by the petitioner. The respondent has little to no input on getting a no contact order dropped. Even if the petitioner requests to have one removed, it’s entirely up to a Judges decision. The Judge will normally want to see some kind of proof that both parties are attending required classes (battery prevention), a mental health evaluation from one or both parties, and individual counseling.
The primary purpose of a no contact order is to provide safety to the petitioner. Until a judge is satisfied that the threat to their safety is no longer an issue and that both parties are actively moving towards reconciliation, they are very unlikely to amend or remove the order.
What if you get a not guilty? Does the no contact have to get dropped,
Yep! 👍🏼 Once a case is terminated the conditions cease to be in effect -- unless the court imposes another form of contact restriction, like a peace bond 😬
Is it same in British Columbia.😢
The law is the same across Canada, but how it’s applied by law enforcement and prosecutors in British Columbia may be different. Check with your local criminal defence lawyer! 👍🏼
How long does it take to remove no contact order ? Is it possible asap
Great question. Unfortunately, there's no one-size fits all timeline. Getting the order lifted depends on multiple factors including the seriousness of the allegations; up-front done work by the client; the position of the complainant; the sensibility of the Crown; and yes, budget. Best to get a skilled criminal lawyer on board to help you.
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