Greenflower Zone: Throughout History (1998 - 2019)
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- For the last two decades, every major release of SRB2 has brought with it a new build of its very first level. In this video, each of them will be compared.
A quick note regarding SRB2: The Past: It was necessary in two instances to record the levels using this mod instead of the original builds. For the Christmas Demo 0.93 version, this is due to that particular release being incompatible with modern Windows machines without the aid of emulation. For the SAGE 2000 Trailer version, it's because that particular build of Greenflower Zone has never been released to the public, and thus the mod's recreation of it is the best option available.
As such, credit to Glaber, creator of SRB2: The Past, is in order. 
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I like how this started as something you'd see in a "really bad sonic fan games" video to being the best classic sonic game I've ever seen.
I remember Vinny's video
I think that first one is Games Factory lol... I remember making a fuckton of absolutely atrocious fangames with it back in 2002 or so ahahaha
@@the_most_ever_company lol yeah. I've a good couple of bad ones. Good thing this isn't one of them!
people gotta realize making good video games takes time, especially with no budget made by a team in their spare time!
I love the growth and history though. It does look pretty silly the old builds.
Really incredible how polished and featured the game is today though, seriously fantastic!!
@@dafffodil ikr. The many years of polish really show here!
2.2 really is such a huge step forward, it’s like an entirely new game
Rob said that there was an idea to refer to 2.2 as "3.0", and the only reason it wasn't done was because people would have forever joked "When's 2.2 releasing?"
Agreed. I mean, there are noticeable differences between the earlier versions, with the music going from the original MIDIs to Cyan Helkaraxe's remixes, and the graphics getting better little by little, as well as the level design making marginal improvements...and then v2.2 hits with significant changes all over. It's still recognizable, but between the major graphical improvements, the remixed music by CobaltBW and DrTapeworm, and the further improvements to the level design...2.2 was a BIG update to be sure.
@@DylanDude they should have SO gone on with that, don't get me wrong i enjoyed 2.2 but it's so different in so many levels to the point where you kind of have to state it outright
The leap was significant. I can always play this instead of the big budget ones
I love it but I hate the new Sonic Sprite, I like the old one more, the new one kinda looks like the us box art Sonic with his spines super close together and the running animation has his legs too far out
Your telling me this project has been in development for 2 years longer than I existed?!?
21 years actually.
@@hypergoon1152 He meant this was relased 2 years before he was born fucking idiot.
edit:This one reply is controversial.
@@TakenUsernameAuradium One misconception doesn't make him an idiot
@@rooban989 I know, but that reply makes me REALLY mad...
@@TakenUsernameAuradium That's understandable I just didn't think he should've been called an idiot
I'm still blown away at how much this fangame has improved over the course of _over twenty years._ If child me had known about this back in 2000 he would have flipped out.
I honestly remember playing it as a kid but forgot the name of the fangame (for obvious reasons) and found out about it at the end of last year, really brought me to tears to see it.
I know exactly what you mean! v2.2 (and especially with the 3D character model pack) is the 3D Sonic game that I was always day dreaming of when I was a 3rd grader in back 96/97. It also looks exactly like the Sonic game that the Sega Saturn deserved.
@@ped3752 What version did you play as a kid? And I don't think it's so obvious why you forgot the name.
@@Sparkette My guess being version 2.0 (probably played it in 2011-12) since I can recall playing on deep sea zone and the graphics give me an insane nostalgia, and the reason why i couldn't remember the title is because English is not really my first language, so trying to guess Sonic Robo Blast is already hard, finding out it was a sequel would be another level.
Can we all just take a second to appreciate that SRB2 is old enough that if it were a person, it would now be of drinking age in every country?
For 21 years the developers laboured on this game, where every other project fades away due to minor fandom drama. For 21 years they improved, bettered, and added to this little passion project.
How much must their lives have changed in those two decades and a bit? How many times must they have thought of leaving this behind as a bygone part of their lives?
How much has the franchise and its fandom changed in all this time? How much has the WORLD?
It truly is amazing.
All of what you just said. The fact that this game is 1998 levels of old is mortifying to me.
Sonic fans are one of the most devoted fanbases in the gaming community
Honestly, this is exactly what sets SRB2 apart from most 3D Sonic Fan Games.
You get loads and loads of demos with people screaming they are infinitely superior to Sonic Team's games and that SEGA should hire them, yet most of those project never see the light of day and remain as just that, demos.
SRB2 developers spent two whole decades developing a game that started as your typical bad Sonic fan game until turning it into a beloved classic.
If you ask me, those are truly the fans that deserve to be recognized for their work.
Jeffret exactly. not to contradict what you said but the only fan game I truly believe is worth any praise is the project hero demo. glad that the developers aren’t making it open source and sticking to their guns to make their own original stuff with it.
and now this project is 25 years old. a quarter of a century. I never followed the game but seeing how far it's come still makes me a bit emotional.
Sammy said he wanted a 3D Classic Sonic game, but little did he know there was one that pioneered fan games in general! I wouldn't mind seeing the first game get remade and improved.
Johnathon Turner
Apparently someone is doing that.
You should check out @davezerolite on Twitter. He's doing exactly that in SRB2.
SRB1 remake is in SRB2, although it's not as improved. It uses assets from the sequel. You unlock it by collecting enough emblems.
They ported srb1 to the genesis
@@rushgaming8513 that was an april fools joke. Only KBZ is there
That GLOW UP in the 2019 version. The game looks gorgeous.
I never realized how old the composition for the themes really were!
honestly i prefer the srb2 2.1 theme over 2.2
seeing it grow up like this was such an experience... the moment the video got to 2.2 i was nearly in tears. it's like watching a child go through elementary school, then middle, then high school, then graduating college. look how far it's come... oh my god..
thank you so much for making this
ARTEZUI You’re welcome! My history with the game doesn’t go back nearly as far, but that doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate the last 20 years of SRB2.
Its really inspiring to see how it evolved
I never knew this game existed till now
if we consider 2000 to be the true start of srb2 as we know it today, then the game basically did graduate in 2019
I'm jealous of the people who just find out about this gem and get to play the latest, most beautiful version, but then again i'm more glad i got to see this game grow. I remember going from 1.094 to one of the 2.x versions and thinking "Whoa, the crawlas are sexy now" as well as Knuckles looking decent lol
btw I so do not miss that sound at 10:17 but i'd be lying if I said it didnt hit me with nostalgia
People who say they wont miss ugly eggman in christmas castle eggman are obv liars xd
Well... I joined in ~2.1.20 i think...
1.09.4 into 2.0 was kind of a golden era, now we in for another one
Nothing will beat the 1.09 version... had the best wads hands down.
I agree, seeing the game grow over the course of me growing up was something else.
I played 1.094 when I was 10 or 11, now I'm 24. I used to check the site almost weekly for new releases and updates, played all the character wads and a ton of multiplayer.
Greenflower's original theme sounded nostalgic. Literally. Like the kind of music you'd expect to hear when a character's reminiscing about their memories.
Only the real OG players of the game remember Crusty Knuckles.
RIP 😢
I'm pretty sure that was the first version I ever played. Knuckles was playable but his sprite was rips from Sonic Adventure 2.
also HMS
Shady someone did actually make a new version of that character for 2.1, with the srb2jte super music and all
JJ92446 HMS SONIC WAS SO FUN LOL
I like how literally everyone forgets the second emerald token under the bridge in the old versions. :P
That token under the bridge in the old versions is why I checked under the bridge in V2.2 and found that they'd brought it back.
@@JonnySpec you mean.. emblem
No it really the token (emerald)
Idk how I forgot this since I played 1.09 way more than 2.0
@@chocolat5883 Oh you poor soul
Wow, Greenflower Zone and SRB2 in general has come a long way, and we still have a long way to go.
To another successful decade.
@JayKuriN [J\] I see you still remember the infamous comment by BlueyAnimations.
@JayKuriN [J\] HaHa GuNgA gInGa FuNnY. MeMe NoT dEaD.
this didn’t age well
@@joechristo2 I said for SRB2, not in general.
Yeah I guess 98% of the game is finished
I love how in the demo eggman fights, they just used a clipped version of the score count sound for the explosion of his lasers and pretended nobody would notice
Ok that's funny
I like that funny quiet "ding" when a laser hits something. **LASER SOUND** ......... _ding!_
4 years late on this, but presumably its cuz that sound was used in the doom level end screen and there was just no way to make a duplicate easily at the time
Crazy to see just how much changed between 2.1 and 2.2, it's so improved I'm surprised STJ didn't just call it 3.0.
It's also really sick how I can pinpoint 2.0 as the first version I played as a kid.
dylan said in another comment they were gonna call it 3.0,but everyone was gonna joke saying "where's 2.2?"so they didn't.
The dedication of the Sonic fanbase is a remarkable thing. Even while the proper games, themselves, were going through very public ups and downs, the fans were in the background, some toiling away at projects so good, their creators would be recruited to make Sonic Mania. Amazing to see how this project has grown in over two decades of effort into what it is now
And they don't get any money from this
The game's graphics get better with every major release
Ah.. I played 2.0 when I was around 6-7 because my mom's friend had it and let me play while she was with her.. then I found it again at 2014 and since then.. I followed every step this beauty took.. I saw 2.2 and almost died, it changed a lot aaaa♡
I have almost the same story! I played it around 10 - 11 years old one of the demos i found on the internet and loved it to death, forgot the name of the fangame (for obvious reasons) and found it through a friend in discord at the end of the last year, the 2.2 trailer made me cry by how beautiful the nostalgia punch it gave me. (Took almost ten years for me to find the game again)
Well same story for me I discovered this game around 2016-2017 cause Brandon nel srb2 ppsspp video and then forgot it and remembered it when I searched on retro toaster channel
I remember only looking videos about SRB2 on my PC when I was 4-5, on those times I thought that SRB2 was for Mega Drive. - - -')
Only at my 10 years when I've seen it again I knew that SRB2 was for PC. Sadly when I knew it I I didn't have the PC anymore at that time. Only now at my 13 years I play SRB2 but only on Mobile-
OH I remembered something else! I had a chance to play it at my 7 years, when I was trying to find a port of SRB2 on PPSSPP. q ^p")
I've never played it because I forgot lol.
Went from a game that looks like it was made in ms paint to a 3d world of art
It actually WAS made in MS Paint. (SRB1 at least)
@@starrysunset456 r/woooosh
@@noahbillyproductions880 it's not a woosh you stinky redditor
@@shyguy85 that was cringy me 2 months ago sorry
@@noahbillyproductions880 Could you shut up please?
It's hard to believe this game is older than the Sonic Adventure games. It's also crazy to see just how much of the game play was already more or less done in it's earlier stages in development. Sonic's sprite in particular has always looked very good!
I do find it interesting that Act 2's theme sounds different in almost every release, like the developer couldn't decide on they wanted it to sound.
Working on a new video about Techno Hill Zone! EDIT: it's out! ruclips.net/video/k4ykb0VGrhU/видео.html
The varying levels in audio quality brings me waay back in time
the absolute definition of a great game that never needed great graphics to be a success
Aye m8, i knew i will find you here 🤭😆
@@Mappster who is you mate
@@TempestKrimps the one who uploaded the evilflower zone ost
@@Mappster ohhh hello
So.... Minecraft?
i have so many memories of the final demo and 2.0, i'm amazed to see at how much the game changed in 2.2
yeah... in 2.0 the main developer left due to his marriage giving 2.0 the name SRB2ME, Marriage Edition
2.2 is such a huge glo-up, it looks...professional now. It looks like the 1997 Saturn game it feels like it wants to be.
The midi songs in the older ones give that sense of "early 2000s fangame" nostalgia
This is a sign of dedication and commitment. The world needed this. This game grew up with me
I remember my dad downloading this back in 2005 and me playing it then. God, good times.
Srb2 TGF: Hay, Wats op.
st jr.: you're not you when you're hungry. have a snickers.
Srb2 TGF: Crench
st jr.: Better?
SRB2 v2.2.6: Better!
(Edit: The crunch took 21 years. Just saying.)
amazing
It's so hard to believe that in the depths of 25 years, this game is the masterpiece of all fangames to this very day, from demo 1 all the way to v2.2.10. Sonic Team Jr. did such an amazing job on making this source of hard work. 👍😁
Honestly I have no idea what any of this is, but It was a fun watch.
Thanks. I appreciate it.
look it up SRB2, its a really awesome fangame
The new version is insanely good
@Liam Young There is auto camera, lol
They did a small update adding it.
Go to the controls and Playstyle
Same.
@Liam Young run the game through steam. add it as a non steam game. it should work then. (controller)
That's a pretty long time gap. I'm glad it's in such a good place now. This game as it is is so damn amazing
I like how the first 3d version of the game used Saturn sprites for Sonic,and now there's a mod that adds Saturn Sonic (XSonic). My, how far we've come.
when version 2019 came up and the greenflower zone 2 theme started playing, i could just imagine cheers and claps going along with the music! the game has really come along why to being THE best sonic game no one has heard of.
I can’t believe that the game started with this, even though the project was like that, but the developer didn’t give up, this is a good example of how we shouldn’t give up
Yeah
It’s such a nostalgic trip just watching this vid. I remember downloading this game on my dad’s old dell laptop while in church in 2007! I distinctively remember the Sonic character icon in the bottom left. I lost countless hours to this thing and just kept playing because I never owned any game consoles at the time. This, Sonic Final Fantasy, and Ultimate Flash Sonic are my most visceral memories of Sonic as a kid. I know it’s merely just showing the different versions of the game, but thanks for the vid. It’s allowed me to relive some good times.
It's pretty surreal, seeing this. A little backstory - SRB2 is like, one of my *very earliest* gaming memories. It's something my brother got me as a kid on our and then my PC when I was what, 4? years old (he's a real one for that and a million other reasons.) He was a Sega kid growing up, he passed that down to me and that game's a huge reason why I managed to be a bit of a Sega kid despite having never owned one. Anyway - yeah I have vague but *powerful* memories of playing this as a kid - if memory serves, it'd be the final demo of 2003. The Greenflower Zone and the early stages of the Techno Hill Zone (I wasn't really good enough to get much further; for all my time spent in games I wasn't and still am not any good at games!) are the ones I remember most - graphics, and oh man the music. At some point we got rid of that game and PC and well, I'd moved on - but the memory stuck, even after all these years.
Anyway yeah - for one it's pretty mad to see what this game used to be. In my head I basically remembered this being a real Sonic game (I had no understanding of its origins then ofc, also as a kid my brother and I called it 'Sonic 2D' cos that was easier, so for years I thought there was a real Sonic game called 'Sonic 2D' lol) because even in 2003 it looked damn good - so to see it start out at the level of a very amateur fan game is quite amusing actually. It's *insane* tho to see how the game progressed from what I remembered from '03... from Version 2 totally changing things up to Version 2.2 (basically Version 3 tbh) changing things up again... it's crazy. I have intense nostalgia for that old version of the game but the new ones look fantastic. People have compared seeing this game grow to watching a child grow from birth through to graduation and yeah - I agree. In my case, it's like finding the social media of a childhood friend you haven't seen in literal decades, only to see they've totally spread their wings and are living their best life. I'd like to meet my childhood friend in person again I think; for as much as we'd drifted apart, I still think we'd have a lot in common - maybe more than ever, actually.
My hats off to the devs; this is truly a labour of love. Thank you for the amazing gaming memories - when I fix my PC, I'm going to download it; both the most recent version and the one from my childhood. I have a lot of catching up with an old friend to do - a stroll down memory lane, and a look towards the present and future.
SRB2 had the biggest glow up i've ever seen for a videogame
As someone who's played 2.0, 2.1, and 2.2, I never truly appreciated the differences between them until now. The progress is astonishing.
Final demo was apart of my childhood
17:27 back when the Invencibility Music was the Super Sneakers
8:39 that pitch down sounds creepy
Derpy The Hedgeone Indeed, no idea what happened to the MIDI there.
@@DylanDude Since that instrument uses a lot of pitch-bending in the MIDI, I'm guessing something went wrong with the cues used to do that.
@@MarsJenkar It probably doesn't reset the pitch bend to 0 (perfectly on-key) at the beginning of the MIDI, causing it to stay lower-pitched until the guitar plays the first note with pitch bending.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane! I still remember the TGF version of the game, and actually played through most of SRB1 back when I was active in the SFGHQ community. I played a ton out of the 2003 build across many years, but hadn't checked on the game since then until SRB2Kart made a name for themselves. I'm blown away by the improvements made for v2.2. I think I may be overdue another playthrough. 😁
It's insane how different 2.2 is compared to 2.1.
@@DylanDude hey Dylan quick question, do you know what the Srb2 Mega archive is?
Beginning: This is so janky lol
Middle: Ooh this looks pretty good
End: I N E E D I T
Thank you for playing the actual games rather than srb2 the past, the past is a good way for newcomers to see the old days, but nothing feels better than cracking a can a coke and just sitting down and playing the final demo.
Not counting the 2 instances you had to use the past, but thx for the most part
Final demo is when I found out about SRB2. Can't believe it's been 17 years..
Those sweet, sweet midis.
They will have a special place in my soul forever dude
From going from a memorable flash game to being the most liked Doom engine platformer, this was the best fan game ever to be created in the history of all Sonic fan games.
God bless old games for giving me a sense of nostalgia I can't find anywhere else.
The madman just performed a ground spin attack on the original srb2 what a madlad
I was there back at the final demo, around 1.09.4, with the addbot command the Invader Zim tag level. Man, nostalgic vibes. It's truly amazing how far this game has improved, and growing with it feels even more amazing!
This is giving me Sonic Xtreme vibes and I dig it
The first few 3D versions actually use Sonic's sprites from Xtreme
5:39 - Did Sonic just flip the Flicky?
"flip the Flicky" XD
No, and I didn’t see him use his middlefinger on the flicky
I love how the level is still recognizable in the earlier versions
Nothing beats GFZ1 Xmas.. the atmosphere of the level is just pure calmness
Are you serious?! Sonic Robo Blast 2 has been around since 1998?! Jeez, and I found out about this game in early 2010s (2015 to be precise). You really do learn something new every day.
I remember playing the pre-2.0 version back in middle school. It's amazing to see how far this game has come
I played this game once around 2015 and again recently.
I was wondering if some stuff changed because I remembered the game differently xD
Thanks for the video!
You’re welcome!
Damn, I got it at 2.1 and I never knew it used to be a 2D platforming Sonic game, I honestly glad you made this as it makes me appreciate the game, even more, seeing how it's changed over the years into the titan it is now.
Got it at 2.0
I discovered it 3 weeks ago. I love it!
This feels nostalgic even though I only discovered srb2 recently
I think I'm glad that I waited till 2.2. The slopes make such a huge difference.
I hope we get a VR version.
Why VR?
@@ikagura To have it in stereoscopic 3D, and across at least 110° of your field of vision.
@@MoonlightFox You can technically have a bigger FoV if you mod the game...
@@ikagura oh yes, I have mine set a little wider than the standard, but it's not the same as it is in VR. You'd have to sit really close to a very curved monitor to get a similar effect.
There's a mod that allows you to play in VR
SRB2 has been in development for 20 years.
Oh my god.
The transition at 1:17 was actually very well made.
This is too cool. It’s the sonic fan base that’s keeping this lil blue guy alive. It makes me happy to see this.☺️☺️☺️
What a wonderful compilation. GL on 300 subs!
JJs Cave Thanks!
Im very surprised the music is the same from the very beginning (the instrumentation is different of course but you know what i mean), its cool to know the melody or whatever for the music was always great
I literally just started playing this game maybe a month ago, i just think its amazing the amount of hard work that went into this game, this game is 3 years older than me which is insane. I would give money to the amazing people behind this game.
I remember playing this in one of the early 1.0 versions when I was a teen. To see this project become what it is now is mind blowing to me.
Wow SRB2 Is really amazing, and to know that it's part of so many people childhood (like mine) is just great.
16:44 Hoop sound effect from Nights
I remember playing the 2003 demo many years ago. It's beautiful seeing how far this game has come
This game never left the late 90s/early 2000s look until very very recently. Wow
the game sure has evolved since its first release!
This is like a monument to "You have to start somewhere"
It's so interesting how, through all the versions, the overall level design has stayed mostly the same. Yes, definite polish has been made, but there are still areas that are nearly exact throughout all of the (3D, obviously) versions.
If it ain't broke don't try fixing it
I loved listening to the BGM evolve over the years!
It’s nice to see where it began just to see it now it’s so beautiful
I've known about this game since 2014. But to know this game is older than me by SIX YEARS is mind blowing.
0:23 I don't know what that noise was, but I'm pretty sure that it just sliced my brain in four pieces.
I remember playing through almost all of 1.09.4's life span before eventually losing interest a few months after match beta came out and I remember everyone thought slopes would never be added
Ironic how the first version of Greenflower looks more fun than Forces
And is also graphically nicer (because as more simpler the 3D was the fact the level was more colourful is already a better thing visually speaking)
Where's the irony?
I meant the very first sidescroll version, it honestly looks more fun than Forces.
@championchap Yes it is ironic how fans make better games than the company
@championchap Then what is this?
If it's not irony that Sega cannot make a proper Sonic game while fans (who has way less money) can do better then how can we call that?
Started playing in 2004 as a child and I thought it was the shit _then._ It's amazing to see how far this game has come without any signs of stopping.
SRB2 is my favorite childhood game, when the first 2.2 trailer came out I was like: "What??" I was so excited for the release, when it came out, I was super excited about the game and played it! I was finally able to finish the game for the first time though..In this version! Yes, this version. The 2.2 one. I was never able to finish the game since 2.0, now I was finally able to do it! This game is part from my heart man!
*Goodbye Demo 1 Sonic... We will miss you.*
2000-2019
Actually he was Christmas Sonic sinfe at that time some sprites of Demo 1 Sonic were completed
Demo 1?! I don’t see any difference apart from the fact he has less shading.
Nice To See The Sonic Xtreme Sprites in The Early Builds :)
Great stuff! You should do one for Techno Hill Zone as well, since it's the second oldest zone (since Demo 2 I believe) with a largely preserved layout, for Act 1 at least. I'd love to see the progression to v2.2.
Thanks! I've been thinking of doing videos for both THZ and CEZ.
@@DylanDude I would love to see a THZ video as well
@@rodrigoalves-cg6xv Working on it now!
@@DylanDude thanks for answering, you're great :-)
God, i remember this game! Me and my cousin would play it together when we were 6, i was the controls and he was the camera because of how many issues we had as kids! Nice
the fact that this game is older than me by 1 year
At 21:00 during the boss fight, it seems eggman is programmed to move backwards and upwards each time hes hit. Which is why he goes far out of range
in 2.2 devs said "hey what if we update literally the entire game"
I love how it took them so long to add drop shadows they don’t even appear in this video lmao
Old version of Green Flower Zone sounds Melancholic and Weird.
Huh? 1998?! Whoa.. I didn't Know that game has been created and developed long time ago! This game is sure over 20 years old.
this brings me so many memories
The differences are crazy
Daaang I was 2 when this started. I started playing it back iiiinnn theeee...2.0 version I think somewhere between '09 and '14, been playing 2.2 recently and ive been FLOORED by how amazing it's changed. Would LOVE to work with these guys someday
Ever since 2.2, I can never go back to any older version. It’s such a huge overhaul that there’s no other reason to go back aside from history purposes or nostalgia.