The Best Sound for MS-DOS Games - Roland MT-32

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    In this episode, I take a look at the legendary Roland MT-32 from both the IBM PC games market, and as a synthesizer for MIDI keyboards.

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  • @BabyGrandOz
    @BabyGrandOz 4 года назад +947

    The sounds of the MT-32 was one of the first projects I worked on after Eric Persing and myself created the initial factory sounds for the Roland D-50. I remember it being quite difficult due to the restricted architecture but a creative challenge none the less. In the end all the sounds were created by myself and a remarkable Japanese engineer.

    • @nicolasjurado6
      @nicolasjurado6 4 года назад +15

      That's awesome!

    • @rogerwilco2
      @rogerwilco2 4 года назад +9

      Awesome.

    • @DiAL033
      @DiAL033 4 года назад +12

      So, the "Doctor Solo" patch: a recreation of the iconic Doctor Who theme sound?

    • @pedrocarvalho4999
      @pedrocarvalho4999 4 года назад +3

      Cmon...
      Which D50 signature patch has a stack of pads that start in different tuning, than adjust with time?

    • @trikronika
      @trikronika 4 года назад +9

      You're a legend!!

  • @LGR
    @LGR 7 лет назад +2390

    Still really want to get one of these someday, I've never had the pleasure of messing with an MT-32! EDIT: GOT ONE.

    • @paddydoestech
      @paddydoestech 7 лет назад +8

      Feels Bad Man

    • @awaitinginput2468
      @awaitinginput2468 7 лет назад +3

      It is a cool little gadget. I would love it if I can alos get one but I assume these would be hard to come by.

    • @Resopheed
      @Resopheed 7 лет назад +9

      I am also a sucker for retro PC audio (especially the Rolands

    • @fargeeks
      @fargeeks 7 лет назад +21

      oh shit
      hi lazy game review man

    • @ajax700
      @ajax700 7 лет назад +2

      Maybe capacitors issue on the SCC-1 ? Did you get them checked?
      Also there are videos on YT of people got the SCC-1 working not connected to a PC.

  • @CristalianaIvor
    @CristalianaIvor 5 лет назад +688

    when the sound card has more processing power than the pc you use for it, lol

    • @IvanOoze1990
      @IvanOoze1990 4 года назад +6

      @@Username_-fm4lj uhhh....

    • @z84c00
      @z84c00 4 года назад +23

      and is more expensive too...

    • @gundstaff
      @gundstaff 4 года назад +1

      Oi

    • @ChrisNova777
      @ChrisNova777 3 года назад +6

      When you thought you said something intelligent but Unfortunately that statement doesn’t make any sense

    • @CristalianaIvor
      @CristalianaIvor 3 года назад +17

      @@ChrisNova777 I didn't intent to say anything intelligent, it just was a funny remark. But ok, mr wise guy, enlighten me.

  • @astrosteve
    @astrosteve 2 года назад +36

    If you weren't alive in 1989, you can't possibly understand how mind-blowingly amazing the MT-32 sounded. I heard one in a store when it was set up as a demo and couldn't believe what I was hearing. It didn't seem possible for a computer game to sound that good. My father would never get a sound card of any kind, so I had to listen to PC speaker my entire youth and I was jealous of any sound card in general, but the MT-32 specifically.

    • @turrican4d599
      @turrican4d599 2 года назад +1

      I did prefer the sound of my Amiga 500 and later that of the Gravis Ultrasound EX.

    • @mmasias
      @mmasias Год назад +1

      100% agree: for the 80s guys that was mindblowing!!!

    • @xfloodcasual8124
      @xfloodcasual8124 6 месяцев назад +1

      when I heard it back then,
      it was more shocking than a graphics upgrade ega/vga etc.

  • @linksbro1
    @linksbro1 7 лет назад +87

    The Secret of Monkey Island theme played through the MT-32...
    Everything is different now that I have experienced such MAJESTY~

  • @JorgeAraujo97
    @JorgeAraujo97 4 года назад +83

    It's amazing how MT-32 is still very relevant.

  • @anjinbeats
    @anjinbeats 4 года назад +132

    I grew up playing DOS games on just the PC speaker, really blows my mind that the sound could have been this good.. might have to get hold of one of these bad bois

    • @BlueBird-wb6kb
      @BlueBird-wb6kb 4 года назад +7

      Yeah its like everyone from that era was Cucked into having shit sound

    • @daBuzzY90
      @daBuzzY90 3 года назад +4

      Look for the MT-100... Half the price for the same thing

    • @DocTime56
      @DocTime56 2 года назад +2

      @@daBuzzY90 the mt-100 looks better, I wonder why it’s less than half the price on ebay

  • @Davidevgen
    @Davidevgen 6 лет назад +507

    i never thought a dos game could sound as good as a ps1/n64 :P

    • @austinreed7343
      @austinreed7343 6 лет назад +15

      And you can use soundfonts like Timbres of Heaven to make them even better these days.

    • @eduardoavila646
      @eduardoavila646 5 лет назад +31

      You never seen doom in the right hardware then...

    • @mahjonglover3614
      @mahjonglover3614 5 лет назад +4

      it's the synthesiser playing live )

    • @madfox2000
      @madfox2000 5 лет назад +8

      with MT32 or SoundBlaster AWE32 this is easy.

    • @kargaroc386
      @kargaroc386 5 лет назад

      @@madfox2000 AWE32's just a ROMpler

  • @patrickmccauley4921
    @patrickmccauley4921 7 лет назад +131

    Sometimes I wonder if I am only expanding on the vast library of useless knowledge I possess but the is really entertaining.

    • @thegardenofeatin5965
      @thegardenofeatin5965 6 лет назад +13

      I've made a career out of filing away esoteric knowledge and skills which have a knack for coming in useful 15 years later 5 states away.

    • @oaktadopbok665
      @oaktadopbok665 6 лет назад +12

      The true purpose of knowledge is to keep your brain amused!

    • @alexanderbrennan1984
      @alexanderbrennan1984 5 лет назад +2

      same, im probably never going to need to know this stuff

    • @knightrdrx
      @knightrdrx 5 лет назад

      Yes I don't have many friends that would care but I do have one that will play links 386 with me still

    • @knightrdrx
      @knightrdrx 5 лет назад

      Now..how much more did this cost compared to the soundblaster?

  • @AndersEngerJensen
    @AndersEngerJensen 7 лет назад +305

    Great work, buddy! Glad to see the module and the stuff I sent being put to good use. :D

    • @LightyNourT
      @LightyNourT 7 лет назад +19

      Anders Enger Jensen You are awesome, man.

    • @andlinux
      @andlinux 7 лет назад +7

      I love the 8 bit Keys remix on your channel.
      Great job for sending the device ;)

    • @sithium2429
      @sithium2429 7 лет назад +8

      Anders Enger Jensen Norge er best

    • @AndersEngerJensen
      @AndersEngerJensen 7 лет назад +5

      Ja, er vi ikke alltid det a? ;)

    • @pinguliten
      @pinguliten 7 лет назад +2

      I do hope you sent him a spare and still have a Roland midi stack.

  • @andyblue1991
    @andyblue1991 4 года назад +56

    WOW! The sound differences are worlds away! Thats insane, and really made a difference for people!

  • @NeonYukon
    @NeonYukon 6 лет назад +153

    4:55 the transition to the PC speaker is just... omg lmao

    • @ascentfevers
      @ascentfevers 5 лет назад +3

      yes lmao

    • @mikeymcmikeface5599
      @mikeymcmikeface5599 5 лет назад +16

      PC was always total garbage. At this time Amiga had 4 channels stereo built in. And no stupid manual selecting, IRQ and DMA retardation.

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 5 лет назад +10

      Eh. 4 channels stereo by having 2 channels each per side, which is idiotic.
      The PC survived through a combination of it having been IBM, making it popular in the business space, being standard hardware with nothing really proprietary in it leading to an explosion of clones, and that it was highly expandable, but remained compatible.
      Also the Amiga WAS good, but Commodore dropped the ball so hard that by the time the company collapsed the Amiga was starting to look like a joke.
      Not because it was bad, but because it had barely improved in a decade, while in that same time PC's had made huge strides in processing power, graphical capabilities, sound and multimedia.
      Stand still for long enough, and the competition is bound to catch up with you...

    • @Yukatoshi
      @Yukatoshi 5 лет назад +8

      Lol. Poor PC speaker!! It's trying!!

    • @3dmaster205
      @3dmaster205 4 года назад +7

      @Gernot Schrader Not expensive at all; it was rather cheap in fact, it's because of lots of competition.
      The reason why the PC went from the video game laughing stock to the premiere video game platform in just two short years, is because of a reinforcing triangle. Video Game developers were willing to take the risk to push the hardware to its limits and beyond, video game players were willing to pay for the upgrades necessary to play those games, and the hardware to play them to their fullest, and the resulting demand had ever hardware manufacturer jump in competing for the dollars; resulting in prices coming down, more powerful systems being built and sold, and video game developers happily pushing the new systems to their max and beyond, and subsequent PC gamers buying the new ever cheaper hardware to keep up with the newest games.
      Thus in 1989 the PC was a video game laughing stock, by 1992 it was the premiere, most innovative and most forward progressing video game platform having pushed all the others to the side, and just one year later all of those other systems were... well, DOOMED.
      By contrast, when Commodore released the Amiga 600 and the 600 upgrade kit for the 500, all the parents and owners, went, "What? I have to buy a new Amiga in order to keep using it?" Commodore subsequently made the mistake of telling them, "No, no, all the software will continue to keep running on the 500." They couldn't actually guarantee that for third party developers, but it did effectively make Amiga developers stick to the 500, meaning the 600 only ever got a slight performance boost; no actually improvement in the games; and so the reverse of the triangle that boosted the PC into the stratosphere, made the Amiga stagnate and die.
      I would love to see the 8-bit Guy, LGR, and other retro games actually collaborate on a series of videos dealing with the build up to, and then this video game revolution, it's probably the most pivotal, most innovative, and most forward striding few yeas in video game history; the status quo of today, directly comes out of those years; and yet, apart from a few games or pieces of hardware released at point (and then it's only that specific thing) all the other videos are always about things before, or after these revolutionary years.

  • @Halterung01
    @Halterung01 7 лет назад +216

    HOLY! This thing sounds good!

    • @saurav9922
      @saurav9922 6 лет назад

      dp vn03 really just sounds like a normal game music & not bitcrushed.

    • @zUltraXO
      @zUltraXO 5 лет назад

      For its time, yes.

  • @realtrisk
    @realtrisk 7 лет назад +216

    I think it's pretty widely known that the reason the MT-32 lacks a convincing piano attack sample is that its first purpose, before Sierra and other companies used it for games, was as an add-on module for a Roland digital piano. Because convincing piano samples were expected to be already in the host piano, none were added to the MT-32. This is also the reason it defaults to midi channel 2, instead of 1, I believe.
    This was explained by Tom Lewandowski of Quest Studios, as his wife had the original digital piano and the MT-32 for its original purpose, to add sounds to the piano. He also showed one of the original ad flyers for the MT-32 that proclaimd it as an add-on for your new Roland digital piano.

    • @ricsim78
      @ricsim78 6 лет назад +3

      +realtrisk I did not know this, but it makes sense as MegaCrasherMusic said.

    • @looneyburgmusic
      @looneyburgmusic 5 лет назад +12

      Definitely incorrect, according to Roland itself. The MT-32 was intended to be used by "bedroom" musicians as an inexpensive desktop synthesizer. The reason the included piano PCM attack sample is so weak is simple - memory prices in the 80's prohibited including a higher quality piano sample, even if only the attack portion. The MT-32 shares the same PCM sample set as the second generation Roland D-series synths, which the MT-32 basiclly is, minus the keys, full 8-part multi-timbral editing capability, and a few other features. And to make matters even worse, Roland also used the cheapest, noisiest, DACs they could possibliy get their hands on .

    • @LeonDerczynski
      @LeonDerczynski 5 лет назад

      This would also explain the default 2-9 set of channels - one could just plug in the piano and go, without reconfiguring

    • @BCSchmerker
      @BCSchmerker 5 лет назад +2

      +realtrisk *Realistic piano synthesis actually had to wait* until Roland developed Structured Adaptive Synthesis as executed in the cost-minimal-object RD-1000, now overtaken in turn by Composite Object Sound Modeling.

    • @theharper1
      @theharper1 5 лет назад

      I have a MIDI file of "Walking in Memphis" which sounds pretty good on the MT32 (or LAPC-1). Would it sound better on a dedicated piano? Of course. Of course channel 1 was set aside for the host keyboard, regardless of whether it was a piano or not. The MT32 was designed to provide an entire band accompaniment to the primary keyboard.

  • @francisjo3
    @francisjo3 4 года назад +62

    I thought my Soundblaster was good - I would have killed for one of these!

    • @megalonk._.9728
      @megalonk._.9728 4 года назад +1

      At the time I’d imagine the Soundblaster was still really nice to have :)

    • @gustru2078
      @gustru2078 4 года назад +1

      @@megalonk._.9728 Soundblaster / SB 16 we the most compatible and widely used sound cards in the DOS days. The easiest and cheapest way to have something that sounds ok.

    • @Uzeless
      @Uzeless 4 года назад +3

      The SoundBlaster was an awesome soundcard, but if it was a 5, the MT-32 was an 11!!!!!!!

    • @EberKlaushartinger
      @EberKlaushartinger 4 года назад

      @@Uzeless The Soundblaster was not as good as many think. It had many Problems. The only good Thing was that many Games had Support for it. That's all. There have been better sounding Cards like Gravis Ultrasound back then.

  • @javimm77
    @javimm77 5 лет назад +19

    I remember when I got a SoundBlaster Pro back in the early nineties. I was amazed at what came from the speakers. I replayed every game I had just to listen to the music. Those were fun times!!

  • @philscomputerlab
    @philscomputerlab 7 лет назад +122

    Nice seeing the Roland MT-32 getting some love :) It's truly amazing how awesome these old games sound. Sierra, Lucas and Origin made some of the best games to showcase the Roland.

    • @nijikaichi
      @nijikaichi 7 лет назад

      hei phils

    • @spidermcgavenport8767
      @spidermcgavenport8767 6 лет назад

      Watching your channel daily thank you Phil!

    • @numanuma20
      @numanuma20 6 лет назад +1

      We've advance since then. We have amazing virtual instruments that can fool even musicians.

  • @Arunav100
    @Arunav100 7 лет назад +51

    That Difference though, Roland MT 32 is epic

  • @oliverhilton6086
    @oliverhilton6086 7 лет назад +274

    Wow, this thing looks cool as hell. I want one to plug into my 2017 rig
    **2 minutes of ebaying later**
    Never mind

    • @mikeymcmikeface5599
      @mikeymcmikeface5599 5 лет назад +3

      I am shocked that a "module" isn't a card but actually a module.

    • @miawgogo
      @miawgogo 5 лет назад +11

      There is always the MUNT emulator for the MT-32, its not going to be accurate, but ive read its close-ish

    • @hellishcyberdemon7112
      @hellishcyberdemon7112 5 лет назад +1

      Why not man, I'm guessing to expensive and or confusing

    • @DASPRiD
      @DASPRiD 5 лет назад +3

      @@hellishcyberdemon7112 Around 150€ ;)

    • @hellishcyberdemon7112
      @hellishcyberdemon7112 5 лет назад +3

      @@DASPRiD holy shit thats alot for something that old

  • @happyebb
    @happyebb 2 года назад +9

    Such fun, beautiful and memorable tech. I spent most of my childhood playing dos games using the pc speaker. One day a friend gave me his sound blaster 2.0 which was mono but the sound was amazing. I replayed all my games again and it made a a difference, breathing new life into them, more depth to offer. The Roland mt-32 was something I only got to hear in recent years, very impressive.

  • @butwait
    @butwait 7 лет назад +44

    I'm blown away by the difference....That is crazy..

  • @Evansmustard
    @Evansmustard 7 лет назад +14

    Holy crap. I wasn't even alive then but the sounds improvements blew me away today.

  • @TheRealMMC
    @TheRealMMC 3 года назад +64

    I hear PC speaker: "meh." Tandy 3-voice: "well, ok." Soundblaster: "wow, that's pretty good!" Roland MT-32: "*chills* ok, wow. That is incredible!" It's amazing to hear the vast difference between the different sounds! 😮

    • @troelshansen6212
      @troelshansen6212 3 года назад +5

      It also makes you appriciated how far we've come. We take a build in full fetched digital sound suite in the modern pc, but it was not always so. Even getting sound to work in the olden days was a major challenge in some cases

    • @parasiteunit
      @parasiteunit 3 года назад +2

      Used my MT-32 simply as a sound module. Ran from a 1040ST running Cubase. Put through a half decent external effect processor (Alesis MIDVERB in this case)... to add space, it was pretty nice.

    • @niceanddestroyed
      @niceanddestroyed 3 года назад +1

      You should listen to real soundtracks, not just intro sounds. Adlib soundtracks sound most of the time better than MT32 for various reasons.

    • @TheRealMMC
      @TheRealMMC 3 года назад +1

      @@niceanddestroyed thanks for the suggestion! However, would you mind explaining your reasoning for why Adlib soundtracks sound better? I mean, I get that it has that classic 8-bit videogame sound to it, which a lot of people appreciate, but do you have any reasons other than that?

    • @niceanddestroyed
      @niceanddestroyed 3 года назад +2

      @@TheRealMMCMT32 sound doesn't win versus Adlib most of the time, because sounds were always the same and impossible to design from scratch. Soundtracks were also less elaborated most of the time probably for various reasons (sounds nice with less efforts, a Midi file to play was enough, that was not the most used soundcard, etc.). Listen to Monkey Island 2, Dune or King Quest V soundtracks for instance. They sounds better with the Adlib card.

  • @OAleathaO
    @OAleathaO 4 года назад +9

    I always used to stare at the MT-32 in each month's issue of Sierra's _Interaction_ magazine. Unlike most kids that just wanted it for games I wanted one so I could also plug it into my MIDI keyboard. I finally got one about 4 years ago and, at least for me, it still hasn't lost its mystique.

    • @r3cy
      @r3cy 4 года назад +2

      I still buy redundant stuff that was on my 'must have!' list as a kid :D adulting ain't so bad.

  • @stellarfirefly
    @stellarfirefly 7 лет назад +94

    Back in the day, I was rockin' the Roland LAPC-1. For those unfamiliar, this was essentially an MT-32 but completely on an ISA daughterboard and thus housed entirely inside of the computer case. The sound, of course, was amazing and I was the envy of all my PC gamer friends, especially for MIDI-authored titles, e.g. Sierra Online titles.

    • @stellarfirefly
      @stellarfirefly 7 лет назад +18

      BTW, I recall that as time went on, the differences in music quality between the different titles became more and more significant, and amazing. I remember that Space Quests 4 and 5 had differences that sounded to me (at least, at the time) like night and day. This was because Sierra Online was more and more using major orchestral compositions with their music and thus using the MT-32/LAPC-1 hardware closer to its potential, while still "downgrading" it for PC speaker, Ad-Lib, etc. I really wish that you would've used those later titles as a comparison!

    • @AndersEngerJensen
      @AndersEngerJensen 7 лет назад +19

      SQ4 was indeed from the pinnacle of the Sierra composers' heyday. By 1990/1991 they had really started to explore the capabilities as well as the machines were now 286 and 386 by far, which could muster much better performances. Also Mark Seibert, Rob Atesalp and the others could use their musical education to a greater extent.
      The interesting thing about SQ5 sounds on the MT/CM modules, is that at this point the General MIDI was out and they wanted to cater for GM modules too. So in order to make the transition smoother and the difference between MT and GM modules, they created the now widely known GM patch bank for the MT modules, with some extra sound effects etc. If you load SQ5, you'll hear that the sounds are made similar to the GM layout, which meant that they didn't need to rewrite all the music for the GM version or vice versa. The other sound cards needed some extra work though, but usually it's removing parts and altering a little here and there to cater for the different response these sounds gave when playing.
      Rob Atesalp told me that he and most of the other composers really didn't care much for the GM setup. It was too constricting and less responsive than the MT with its all flexible layout and possibilites, albeit less authentic sound representation. We have to remember that in the early 90s, we were all about trying to recreate the natural instruments as good as possible - pianos should sound like pianos, guitars like guitars, violins like violins.. although, the technology at the time was still limited compared today's, so that's why GM modules and synths using PCM methods back then sounds harsh and quite lifeless. That's why the LA synthesis from Roland, was much more interesting for game composers - it was more flexible and allowed for much wider textures for them to create interesting sounds that conveyed what they needed to illustrate in their music and sound design.
      I too prefer the MT sound to the GM for this reason, and the fact that this was the first module I had for gaming in addition to my Sound Blaster Pro. The perfect marriage for DOS gaming :D

    • @stellarfirefly
      @stellarfirefly 7 лет назад +8

      I wholeheartedly agree, and thank you for the additional historical insight. I did not know that there was such a strong following for MT. I did notice the difference myself; I recall patching the LAPC-I a few different times to "general MIDI-ize it", but noticing the quality was greatly inferior. But, I just chalked it up to superior hardware and native advantage, and hoped that better patches would be available in the future.

    • @CoolKoon
      @CoolKoon 5 лет назад +4

      "I was the envy of all my PC gamer friends" lol

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 5 лет назад +4

      It's worth pointing out that the midi-cards only played music, you needed a separate sound card for the normal sound effects.

  • @fen4554
    @fen4554 7 лет назад +27

    I know its a staple of the show, but never stop demoing old game tunes live on keyboard. It's a blast. :3

  • @davideurenius5272
    @davideurenius5272 4 года назад +29

    Mind blown! How was I not aware of this back then. I had SoundBlasters! I feel cheated now. 😂

    • @doom5895
      @doom5895 2 года назад +1

      Most people didn't have gaming pc's back then

  • @Penfold8
    @Penfold8 5 лет назад +1

    This by far has been my favorite episode! I find myself coming back to this video every other month.

  • @Soundole
    @Soundole 7 лет назад +7

    Nice video, I never expected the difference between Sound Blaster and the Roland module to be so striking!

  • @jippalippa
    @jippalippa 7 лет назад +40

    06:00 that's some seriously cool ambient music!!!!

    • @IcicleFurry
      @IcicleFurry 6 лет назад +1

      oh jeah! it's wonderful to listen to this...
      it's like it was produced before 2-3 jeahrs ago.

  • @travistaylor3186
    @travistaylor3186 7 лет назад

    Excellent video, love your channels. You explain these things so well, and your voice is pleasing to listen to, I'm a huge fan Roland midi keyboards and the MT-32. they're literally my childhood wrapped in black. Seeing your keyboards on the wall made me setup my two Rolands.

  • @ERol-du3rd
    @ERol-du3rd 6 лет назад

    I love this channel so much, I really appreciate all the work you put into your videos!

  • @markusdauer6676
    @markusdauer6676 7 лет назад +18

    The intro music gets better and better i kinda like it !!

  • @TechnologySpotlight
    @TechnologySpotlight 7 лет назад +128

    4:10 PC Speaker Voice Crack

    • @RetroPCUser
      @RetroPCUser 7 лет назад +31

      Technology Spotlight it's DOSBox that does that. Apparently, it's a major glitch. My real hardware never does that.

    • @TechnologySpotlight
      @TechnologySpotlight 7 лет назад +15

      Alright. I just found that strange.

    •  6 лет назад +7

      To hear a non-emulated PC speaker, here's a link to a complete Space Quest 3 PC Speaker Soundtrack: ruclips.net/p/PLUa-WwS_7GQx_4ZlUV5D97IgLfcHJn_rT

    • @nicholassternon5857
      @nicholassternon5857 5 лет назад +4

      Retro PC User damn I thought it was just a trill done on purpose

    • @justahungarianguy
      @justahungarianguy 5 лет назад +8

      Technology Spotlight when elecronics go into puberty :))))

  • @a-law
    @a-law Год назад

    Wow, amazing video. Huge fan of both of your channels, always find little gems like this and as a 96 kid I find all of this kind of stuff so interesting. Thanks for the great content

  • @LifeOnHoth
    @LifeOnHoth 6 лет назад +1

    The background music on your videos are so enjoyable, it makes me all warm and fuzzy :P

  • @LotoTheHero
    @LotoTheHero 7 лет назад +4

    That Roland MT32 is pretty impressive. I really like the sound on it! Thanks for the video, and thanks to the person who donated it for this video. :D

  • @ImTheKingOfHyrule
    @ImTheKingOfHyrule 7 лет назад +8

    There's actually a good MT-32 emulator called Munt that is compatible with DOSbox. It was pretty great hearing Wing Commander with MT-32 audio for the first time.

  • @elephant_888
    @elephant_888 5 лет назад +1

    Great stuff!!! Loved your sound demo using the midi keyboard.

  • @briandemodulated
    @briandemodulated 6 лет назад

    Fantastic video! Very informative and I appreciated the contrast between different sound sources.

  • @ObiWanBillKenobi
    @ObiWanBillKenobi 4 года назад +9

    9:57 That music sample playing alone made me nostalgic for 1980s fantasy movies like “Labyrinth” and “The NeverEnding Story”!

  • @chochix
    @chochix 5 лет назад +3

    Awesome video man! congratulations! greetings from Argentina!

  • @Naranek
    @Naranek 5 лет назад

    Wohoooo.. thank you for this blast of the past... that was so great... and the songs you‘ve played are stunning 😁

  • @veranstaltungstechniktemmler
    @veranstaltungstechniktemmler 5 лет назад

    it's so nice to see you with playing this beautiful old sounds

  • @chrismanuel9768
    @chrismanuel9768 4 года назад +5

    That sounds beautiful. It's just the right blend between realistic and synthetic that it makes me nostalgic for the 80s

  • @Celcius1
    @Celcius1 7 лет назад +3

    After watching this video I went an located one of these's boxes for myself, and once it turns up on Friday, I'm gonna play all my favourite sierra games in the sound they were meant to have, many thanks for letting me know about this piece of vintage sound, it will sit along side my other Roland products quite nicely, I have a JV-1080 tucked away on my music desk.

  • @Admiral_John
    @Admiral_John 7 лет назад +1

    I can't decide what I like more; your music or the cable management you have going on in the background.

  • @Minecraft101ToonLink
    @Minecraft101ToonLink 7 лет назад +9

    I think this is my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE 8-Bit Keys episode from 2016! 😂❤️🎧🎼

  • @MikaelLevoniemi
    @MikaelLevoniemi 7 лет назад +7

    This video inspired me to install Munt with my dosbox for MT32 emulation. I'm glad i did, all the best classics sound soooo nice now. :D

  • @JayBmusic
    @JayBmusic 7 лет назад +8

    It's remarkable how much influence Roland had on the General MIDI standard. Especially on the synth and pad sections. Many sounds were already present in the D50, such as Callilope, Chiff Lead, Fantasia, Rain Pad or Atmosphere. And the MT-32 is no exception, adding e.g. Echoes.
    Also, what I find interesting is playing old game music through modern high quality GM compatible devices. It makes them sound very surreal, because back then noone really cared for realism with game music.

    • @AndersEngerJensen
      @AndersEngerJensen 7 лет назад +1

      JayB Not so weird since it was spearheaded by them in the first place. And the MT-32's layout and number of sounds was the basis for the standard. :)

    • @AndersEngerJensen
      @AndersEngerJensen 7 лет назад +1

      MegaCrasherMusic Yes, but here we're talking about the GM standard, not MIDI itself in the first place.

  • @JosephO75
    @JosephO75 5 лет назад

    Absolutely love your channel. Keep up the great work!!!

  • @psovegeta
    @psovegeta 4 года назад +2

    I always learn something new from the 8-bit guy. This makes me really want to get into vintage computer gaming but the oldest PC I have is a HP Pavillion from 2001. I also have the C64 mini but I do have a midi keyboard I would love to try this out.

  • @lcdmonitor1981
    @lcdmonitor1981 7 лет назад +414

    Make MIDI great again

    • @AndersEngerJensen
      @AndersEngerJensen 7 лет назад +24

      Now, there's a presidential candidate we can all get behind! :D +1 vote!

    • @SgtZaqq
      @SgtZaqq 7 лет назад +25

      MIDI has always been great

    • @lcdmonitor1981
      @lcdmonitor1981 7 лет назад +17

      Liam Barnes all octaves matter

    •  7 лет назад +10

      It has always been great and got even greater with USB.

    • @lcdmonitor1981
      @lcdmonitor1981 7 лет назад +2

      I'm with PCM

  • @BenzaieLive2
    @BenzaieLive2 7 лет назад +70

    fascinating !

  • @ckfvideo
    @ckfvideo 3 года назад

    This takes me way back to when making electronic music was HARD! So many boxes and cables. Man, how far we've come. And what a great demo. Thanks for the video. As nice the the MT-32 sounds the Tandy 3 voice is undeniably a classic.

  • @paulhuhtala4541
    @paulhuhtala4541 4 года назад +1

    Holy crap. I could only imagine what it would have been like to rock out with an MT-32 in the DOS era. Great video!

  • @seancdaug
    @seancdaug 7 лет назад +17

    Excellent choice for a demonstration. The intro to _Space Quest III_ played on an MT-32 is one of the greatest pieces of game music ever composed, IMO, and it's hands down my favorite piece of PC game music from the DOS era.

    • @legatrix
      @legatrix 5 лет назад +1

      You might like the song 'Crushing Day' by Joe Satriani, I was trying to think of harmonically / stylistically similar songs and that's as far as I got...

    • @JackBandicootsBunker
      @JackBandicootsBunker 5 лет назад +1

      That intro and The Secret Of Monkey Island one are by far some of the best PC tunes ever.

    • @jamespowell7302
      @jamespowell7302 4 года назад

      Not even close to the best game music in the late 80's. Try out the music for "Blood Money" on Amega... ruclips.net/video/Cimu6LpnwmQ/видео.html .

  • @joedarkness808
    @joedarkness808 7 лет назад +23

    Roland released a ISA card version of the MT-32 called the Lapc1 normally if you were a gamer you would have a Lapc1 for music and a soundblaster for the effects
    ah the good old days

    • @AndersEngerJensen
      @AndersEngerJensen 7 лет назад +7

      Joe Darkness Correct, except it's called LAPC-I (i for IBM compatibles). They had a Japan only LAPC-N for the NEC 88s and similar.
      It was the CM-32L with the extra 33 sound effects on both cards.
      Very hard to come by these days though. :)

    • @neilis2405
      @neilis2405 6 лет назад +4

      It was actually pretty common back then for sound cards like the Sound Blaster to have a "Wavetable Daughter connector" where you could just attach a module that would takeover MIDI music duties from the soundcard. Creative made one called the Wave Blaster, Roland made another called the Sound Canvas, and there were a few others as well.
      I honestly can't remember the brand of the one I had but it was a lower cost competitor. Didn't sound quite as good as the Creative or Roland ones but it beat the pants off of regular FM sound.

  • @Basically_Veggies
    @Basically_Veggies 7 лет назад

    Absolutely fantastic. Thanks a lot for making this!

  • @briankerzetski5719
    @briankerzetski5719 4 года назад

    Wow! I picked one of these up a few years ago, because I wanted to replay all my 80's PC games on it (only experiencing them on a SoundBlaster card as a kid). I have yet to get around to it, but this video has me realizing what I am missing. Thank you for the motivation!

  • @BoDiddly
    @BoDiddly 5 лет назад +9

    Man! Talk about a time warp!
    I loved Space Quest III and the whole Space Quest series. I spend so many years playing that game. Another I played a lot was Leisure Suit Larry.

  • @mtnshadid
    @mtnshadid 6 лет назад +3

    Piano (9:51)
    Fur Elise - Ludwig van Beethoven
    Atmosphere (9:56)
    Sorry Couldn't tell what is it
    However it's sound like a spain romantic guitar such (Spanish Romantic Flamenco Music Instrumental)
    Echo Bell (10:06)
    Carol of the Bells (Piano version Ex: David Hicken)
    Harpsichord (10:16)
    Something like opening of castlevania
    Closest i thought of : Vampire Music - Transylvania
    Ice Rain (10:24)
    Sorry Couldn't tell what is it, maybe he made it him self for the demo sake
    Squarewave (10:34)
    Journey - Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)
    Note: He edit it a bit from his older video for the Casio CT-380
    String Section 1 (10:49)
    No idea, need to hear more
    Warm Bell (10:59)
    i believe Carol of the Bells but slow piano with Warm Bell Tune

    • @DevanTW
      @DevanTW 5 лет назад

      Did you mean Harry Potter?

  • @adiosdaniel
    @adiosdaniel 4 года назад

    Really excellent video! Thanks so much for the great information and demonstration. I really find those sounds very evocative. And they remind me of a lot of movie soundtracks, not just video games. Hans Zimmer's Rain Man theme comes to mind.
    I almost want to buy a Roland MT-32 now!

  • @heimbk1
    @heimbk1 4 года назад

    Saw this on my recommended and had to watch it. Boy this brings back memories! My friend had a Tandy PC in the 80’s, the first time I heard it I couldn’t believe how good it sounded. I had to have better sound on my PC. This is what drove me to buy an MT-32. Made playing games back then so much better! I think I played all of the Sierra games with it. Wish I still had it now. Great video, thanks for bringing back good memories.

  • @ScarlettStunningSpace
    @ScarlettStunningSpace 6 лет назад +6

    These tracks sound so amazing! I would love to learn how to use this with various midi programs where you could use a midi input and it would visually display the notes you have just played such as MIDI Trail. Maybe do a video on that?

  • @Chopy61
    @Chopy61 7 лет назад +13

    I'd love to hear an extended version of this version of your intro music, it really is great!

    • @AndersEngerJensen
      @AndersEngerJensen 7 лет назад +8

      Chopy 61 I did his original theme in full version here: soundcloud.com/eox-studios/8-bit-keys-theme-mt-32-version
      Doing a full version of my remix on the other hand, is a huge undertaking. If I get enough time later, I might make an all MT/CM version of it. ;)

    • @Chopy61
      @Chopy61 7 лет назад +2

      Thanks Jensen!

  • @maxey2112
    @maxey2112 7 лет назад +1

    Happy I watched this - I am quite impressed by the capabilities of the MT-32.

  • @cmdcs
    @cmdcs 6 лет назад +1

    I really appreciate the content of this channel! You're explaining all the things REALLY wonderfully - I wish I had all that explanations at least 20 or 15 years ago! :P
    I subscribed to your channel immediately after I've watched the first video I've seen, then, like 20 minutes before now :D
    Thank you (and all the donators etc) for all the information and all the effort put into these videos to make us a little smarter!
    PS: In my childhood I always wondered what the difference in technical ways and also the real output was between the Roland MT32s and my SoundBlaster 16Bit for example. NOW I've got some answer to it *lol* (I've also would have loved to hear Wing Commander or Indiana Jones with the Roland...)

  • @funkbungus137
    @funkbungus137 5 лет назад +10

    I got here on accident and was like "Holy shit 8-bit guy has another channel" I'm quick on the draw.

  • @RichardCyberPunk
    @RichardCyberPunk 6 лет назад +8

    "Insert Buckazoid" made my day. I love easter eggs in hardware ROM chips. "Only external MT-32 and Space Quest !"

  • @mguerra79
    @mguerra79 5 лет назад

    I've just noticed in the end that I wasn't in the 8-Bit Guy channel, ahahaha! Subbed as well!

  • @melomonster007
    @melomonster007 5 лет назад

    1:27 I've had the same Casio synthesizer! My dad went to US to work for a couple of years and he brought back this! Lots of fantastic memories with this device.

  • @wwjjdj
    @wwjjdj 7 лет назад +4

    Love the MT-32, and loved this video! Still really looking forward to seeing you clean up that Atari ST and show off some of it's MIDI sequencing capabilities ;)

  • @justanotheryoutubechannel
    @justanotheryoutubechannel 5 лет назад +3

    Holy crap that sounds AMAZING. What the hell!? That’s so amazing. Oh my god! I’m mindblown! I need to get one of these for these I set up an old DOS PC to play this old games.

  • @martinedelius
    @martinedelius 6 лет назад

    This brought back some really fond memories. :) I had the add-on card that you installed directly in the PC though.

  • @edwardgrabczewski
    @edwardgrabczewski 4 года назад

    Love the MIDI connection diagrams, which explain a lot in just a few pics.

  • @lopes4263
    @lopes4263 7 лет назад +6

    4:41 THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL

  • @TheFranZowsky
    @TheFranZowsky 7 лет назад +78

    Tandy 3-voice sounds like Sega Master System to me :)

  • @noiselessfox7618
    @noiselessfox7618 7 лет назад

    awesome video thanks 8-bit guy!

  • @NicenEasyuk
    @NicenEasyuk 4 года назад +2

    such a roland sound. Very iconic. So many albums used these same pcm/synth combos. D-50 library patches in particular.

  • @juantakito9620
    @juantakito9620 6 лет назад +318

    I N S E R T B U C K A Z O I D

    • @Stoney3K
      @Stoney3K 6 лет назад +6

      Makes me wonder if Sierra (or the Two Guys from Andromeda) were involved in the development of the firmware.

    • @Mr.Maritime
      @Mr.Maritime 5 лет назад +5

      Nah, it’s a statement about their success. Translation: “Cha Ching!”

    • @TheBandMan
      @TheBandMan 5 лет назад +24

      Stoney3K the computer could send some text data to the MT32 in addition to the MIDI data. The programmers took advantage and put some little Easter eggs there.

    • @kargaroc386
      @kargaroc386 5 лет назад +8

      @@Stoney3K It's a MIDI sysex message
      I actually ripped the MIDI data with scummvm and alsamidi, and you can find the text in the midi file

    • @racer927
      @racer927 4 года назад +3

      @@Mr.Maritime Their success thanks to Roger getting them out from the SS offices and to Sierra On-Line on Earth.
      Poor guy gets no credit.

  • @pylon2144
    @pylon2144 6 лет назад +8

    So thats why the intro music sounded so sick

  • @gooneybird808
    @gooneybird808 5 лет назад

    Super cool...love this channel dude

  • @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P
    @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P 7 лет назад

    you now have answered a question I had on my mind for many years :)

  • @customsongmaker
    @customsongmaker 4 года назад +106

    As a Japanese engineer, I created all the sounds for the Roland MT-32 (along with the help of another guy who used to work with Eric Persing).

    • @cessposter
      @cessposter 3 года назад +7

      Funny thing his comment is above yours

    • @customsongmaker
      @customsongmaker 3 года назад +15

      Day of the Tentacle was inspired by my sound design, since I captured many of the samples from live-action tentacle hentai.

    • @cessposter
      @cessposter 3 года назад +6

      @@customsongmaker what the fuck

    • @customsongmaker
      @customsongmaker 3 года назад +1

      @@cessposter - respect my culture

    • @TheRealLF2
      @TheRealLF2 Год назад +2

      Cap? Btw tell me the names of the team (must include you for proof)

  • @NatiPerPerdereNPP
    @NatiPerPerdereNPP 7 лет назад +52

    I like the Tandy better than the Sound Blaster honestly... But the Roland mt-32 is outstanding!

    • @shadowedgames134
      @shadowedgames134 7 лет назад

      Aren't they just done by the CPU now? I think all the sound chip does now is output audio.

    • @Alianger
      @Alianger 7 лет назад +4

      SB FM synth music sounds good if the OST was made with it in mind, try some of these:
      OPL2/YM3812: Fury of the Furries, Genpei War, Tyrian, MegaRace, The Legend of Sword and Fairy, Cobi Comi, Empire of the Angel II, Mad Paradox, Iron Blood, Ys II Special, Zyclunt/Blade Warrior (FM+samples)
      OPL3/YMF262: Wacky Wheels, Puyo Puyo Tsu (Compile, 1996), Dune (AdLib Gold), AdLib Gold Sample Songs, CyberSphere, Sorcerian Forever, Ant Man, Zone 66 (FM+samples)

    • @daishi5571
      @daishi5571 6 лет назад +4

      The MT-32 was all but useless for sound effects. However, it was a decent instrument/music player. It had low computer CPU overhead (it did all the work) good quality sound (even if I think sustain was overused) but it was limited by its soundbank. Costing almost $800 in 1987 (~$1700 after inflation in 2018) plus the cost of the midi card made this as/more expensive as some computers of the time. Not having a sound card paired with this would limit your in-game sound which sucked. Last thing although this is considered a MIDI device, as was noted in the video it's not a standard MIDI device. It is a precursor to general MIDI (the MIDI standard) as general MIDI was not yet standardized.

  • @NaptownClassic
    @NaptownClassic 4 года назад +1

    Been watching your channel for a while now. Using Space Quest 3, and describing it as one of your favorites made me subscribe. Sorry it took so long. I'm just a little choosy about what I sub to.
    I'd played video games for years, but Space Quest 3 was the game that made me fall in love with the hobby, and my uncle had a Roland MT-32 that he let me play it on. That only happened once, but I was hooked.
    My father couldn't afford a fancy set up but he saw how much I loved the game, so a few weeks later we wound up with a PC (I was too young to know which) and an orange monochrome monitor.
    I think my father thought I was ashamed of this, or that he had somehow failed in this purchase decision. I wish I could go back and tell him it meant everything to me.
    Anyway, thanks for this video, and all the others!

  • @DhinCardoso
    @DhinCardoso 2 года назад

    2022 and your art still useful and informative, ty ♥

  • @redwillrise
    @redwillrise 7 лет назад +9

    It seemed to me that I've heard some of these sounds in Black Metal before, so I was pleased to hear it came from Norway! Who knows, maybe it really is featured on an album or two... Mainly makes me think of Satyricon records

  • @MikaelLevoniemi
    @MikaelLevoniemi 7 лет назад +35

    Using Munt for emulation in dosbox is really easy. Install the software, google for MT32 roms (need two, one PCM and one Control), tell munt where the roms are (activate them in munt), while munt is running run dosbox and use command 'mixer /listmidi' to check Munts device number (most likely it's 1) and add that to dosbox config file where midiconfig is like 'midiconfig=1'. And you're done. All the MT-32 jokes in sierra games come up too - even jones in the fast lane has some.

    • @JamisCasusa
      @JamisCasusa 7 лет назад +5

      I spent hours trying to "connect" dosbox to munt without success. Thanks to you, finally it worked :D

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 7 лет назад +5

      Or you can install a Soundfont MIDI softwaresynthesizer and load some Multisamples into it. This way you can get the sound of any Soundcard you want that has been turned into a SF2 file.

    • @MikaelLevoniemi
      @MikaelLevoniemi 7 лет назад +1

      Does it support Roland specific sound transfer from games to the simulated device? MT-32 is much more than just a general midi device.

    • @KRAFTWERK2K6
      @KRAFTWERK2K6 7 лет назад

      I'm not sure. Maybe not because that would be a different standard. I don't know if the MT-32 uses a SF2 SysEx MIDI Dump when receiving soundsets from the game. I suppose it is just a list of presets and groups, rather than dedicated sounds and samples. I haven't seen a virtual MT-32 yet. However you might use a Roland V-Synth for that as there was a selection of V-Synth Cards for it. One was turning it into a D-50. And who knows, maybe there was a MT-32 card for it as well. But on the Software side for a PC, I haven't seen anything coming from Roland yet. Eventhou LA Synthesis should not be too hard to emulate these days.

    • @MikaelLevoniemi
      @MikaelLevoniemi 7 лет назад +2

      Munt is a virtual MT-32 driver, it can function with different versions of MT32 (like CL32 or MT100) operational roms. While these devices can indeed function as general midi devices, they song quality is crap compared to "native" MT-32, not just because LA synthesis, but the musicians ability to choose their own samples or effects which they can then upload to the device for playback.

  • @yah3136
    @yah3136 4 года назад

    Damn man, you just killed all the good memory I had of my first 8bit sound blaster :-)

  • @keilei2024
    @keilei2024 5 лет назад

    It is so nice and interesting to know the real face of MT32 although I had SC-55mkII in 1980. Thanks for sharing and the game music were created still very good. Fantastic !

  • @RolingRandom
    @RolingRandom 4 года назад +3

    This brings back memories to my gravis ultrasound ace add-on card. It rocked! For midi it was better than my soundblaster awe32 and was was actually supported by a lot of games :)

  • @dongyeunkim6767
    @dongyeunkim6767 4 года назад +82

    How many sounds do you want?
    Roland : Y E S .

    • @xenonfx3411
      @xenonfx3411 4 года назад

      its a small amount

    • @dongyeunkim6767
      @dongyeunkim6767 4 года назад

      @@xenonfx3411 But thousand times better than simple chiptunes

  • @jorgeegrojjorge
    @jorgeegrojjorge 5 лет назад

    This was a fantastic video! 😎

  • @BloodyIron
    @BloodyIron 7 лет назад +1

    I'm 5:42 into the video and the MT-32 sounds like the future. Holy crap have I been missing out for retro! Must get one...

  • @pawelw3000
    @pawelw3000 7 лет назад +3

    The intro sounds ultra-awesome when recorded on MT-32 and it's really catchy. I'd love to hear it as a whole song :)

    • @AndersEngerJensen
      @AndersEngerJensen 7 лет назад +1

      pawelw Thanks, glad to hear you think so. Not sure when or if I get time to do a whole MT-32 remake of my remix, but I have made David's original Casio theme in its entirety though: soundcloud.com/eox-studios/8-bit-keys-theme-mt-32-version

  • @invghost
    @invghost 7 лет назад +21

    0:00 11:27
    Just for those who want to go back and see and it'll let you get back to where you left :p

  • @muttBunch
    @muttBunch 4 года назад +1

    I’m 40 years old now. I remember playing all of the Sierra games as a kid and always seeing Roland on there and until I stumbled upon this video, I now know the awesomeness it outputs as I was stuck with SB back then

  • @ursa81
    @ursa81 5 лет назад

    Wow awesome video! So well made!!! 😃😃😃