Review: 15th century gothic gauntlets by Darksword Armory
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2016
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The most important thing about those gauntlets though: They're Hella stylish.
+Qutut
Indeed they are.
+Skallagrim Perhaps those types of gauntlets aren't meant to take a full strike. Maybe they are meant to be a piece of protection in case a blade slides off yours or your cross guard in the unlikely situation, so they protect more from glancing blows than full strikes.
And if all else fails they would work as pretty good cestus' (steel knuckles).
I really like gauntlets like these ones.
that's the most important aspect of any glove or gauntlet, can you flip the bird with them.
+Rick1885
Yes.
Well, it is actually a decent indicator of proper fit and flexibility. :)
+Zarrok1138 they cost 500$... if you want to cosplay, you can find much cheaper
On the page they claim that they're supposed to be "combat ready." And no, if anyone ever charges 2k$ for gauntlets then they'd better be from the actual middle ages or else they're a scam.
Yes, a full suit. I'm simply saying that standalone gauntlets would and/or should not be 2k$
+Rick1885 Also you can show your two fingers, if you're into archery.
Very nice review, detailed and professionally made. Thanks Skalla :D
+Metatron The one and only Metatron has spread his wings!
tyler harvey A nobleone I suppose ;)
+Metatron metatron
Lucas Dolsan ;)
+Metatron Hey, Metatron xD
Imagine, gauntlets would require master armor smiths to custom make these for knights during medieval times. That's some pretty serious craftsmanship and skill. It's really no surprise that Knights were so elite. It took a huge amount of resources for that time, to craft their armor.
+Aeimos Yeah but most of soldier had too.
Gauntlet and Helmet, kit starter for a soldier.
Skeullz Dont forget the generic massproduced chestplates.
Tucoco Tucoco depend the period
SkeulIz
Of course.
Eating asparagus with tweezers.
Gauntlets are one of those components that really should be custom fit to the wearer. You can get away with modern gloves that are a little off sized, but when those gloves are made from steel and require you retain functional dexterity, they should be custom fit. Real gothic gauntlets also utilize very complex articulation in the wrist to allow not only flexion and extension, but also radial and ulnar deviation. I've had the opportunity to try on an original from the Wade Allen collection and I was blown away with their movement. DSA also missed the historical lines of a real gothic gauntlet pretty badly with this piece.
They look good, as Darksword stuff tends to.
They're pretty awful in functionality... as Darksword stuff sometimes tends to be.
Wait your here ? Wait holy shit the whole gang is here
I have come here, to chew bubble-gum and make pommel jokes....
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And I'm all out of bubble-gum...
+ScepticalCynic he can't the bubblegum is a requirement because bubblegum is just candy pommels
+General noob especially Bazooka Joe.
+rezaka116 those jokes seriously have to end...rightly
I came here to forge katanas, and make pommel jokes... and I am all out of GLORIOUS NIPPON STEEL, FOLDED OVER 1000 TIMES!
+RubberKidney - and rendered useless by the matchlock rifle or a polearm or a bow!
So punching with them is not to recommend, eh? Shame, brawling with those would be cool.
+ColonelDoYouReadMe They would stil lpack a punch (pun unintended).
+migueeeelet NICE
I reckon they would actually be fairly decent for a backhand blow though.
Sure, but you can't put on otherwise self-damaging gauntlets for a single type of strike that isn't used much.
Well I wasn't advocating that. I was simply saying if you were suddenly ambushed by a man in clearly inferior chain mail and were lacking a weapon with a pommel, that you could just backfist him and be done with it.
OMG, Skall gave out his measurements!
About eight inches. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+GoTa ADu From the ground. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Huh... The right glove has rivets on the knuckle plate, the left one doesn't...
I noticed that too.
+SKy_the_Thunder That is strange...
+SKy_the_Thunder he wacks off with that hand had to reinforce it
...Im not sure how rivets are reinforcement.
+Drinking Fighting Irishman he and his girlfriend supposedly have a pretty active sex life sooo
Skall's face when he was getting hit was amusing
I've binged so many of your videos today. Subscribed and can't wait for more!
i think you are the only person who can make a 12 minute review of gauntlets interesting...
Pity the web didn't exist in the past. Just imagine the online bitching sessions between professional and 'professional' warriors. :)
+tetsubo57
That would be entire wars on their own, just in virtual space.
+MythsMethuselah with a pummel?
That would make a good web show. Just reading and reacting to bunch of dumb social media comments by drunken warriors.
tetsubo57 ha thats what i was thinking then i saw your comment. so true my man ..
@@Skallagrim because war. War never changes.
Darksword Armory?
I expected Darkwraith Gauntlets...
+Jumper Czech Yeah....me too....
I expected Darksouls 3 Gameplay using the Darkwraith Gauntlets
Yeah thats what i expected too
Darksword armoury, always prepared to r1r1r1r1r1r1!
+Jumper Czech That's the first thing I thought, too. Also with the Darksword being the new OP weapon in PVP. Haha!
I don't know why, but I just love the face you make while Cara is whacking your hands. There's this innocent sort of question on your face asking "do I feel anything?" and nothing else. It's really quite amazing.
Undoubtedly these would've been custom made for Skall if he was in the medieval times (and if he had the money), accounting for his hand size and also room for padding.
I always thought of it as a gauntlet with separate fingers being a sign of status. I mean, in movies, whenever the big bad general, in black armor on the black horse rocks up, you never see them wearing mitten style gauntlets, which are, as you point out, better to protect you.
Wearing a gauntlet with fingers may be more of a way to say "look at me, I'm rich and powerful enough to afford THIS degree of detail on my armor!". and in movies with big evil black armoured generals, it says "I don't just WEAR armor. my body is MADE from armor."
It makes them seem less human, and as a result, more terrifying.
Of course, that's just speculation and observations on my part, and I could just as easily be wrong.
Travis Tee
There are some 15th century German gothic mittens that look pretty damn costly. The mittens he showed were pretty simple despite all the lames. Some mittens from back then had the look of fingered gauntlets. Like you wouldn’t guess they were mittens until you saw them move or wore them. I think it was just a matter of preference.
moral of the story, get fitted gauntlets or ur fked
Would absolutely love to start seeing some more armor reviews Skall, easily on par with the weapon reviews
Thanks for reviewing these gauntlets and giving such an in-depth explanation for why you don't necessarily like them. I do some writing for fantasy, and while there's a lot of info about swords and weapons- including yours!- I don't find as much for gauntlets or armor. Hope that you'll do more like this, including about the 'mitten' style.
The lack of a bag of pommels is rather disappointing.
Skall, have you seen the Knyght Errant channel? He seems to focus on the individual pieces of armor.
+Garret LeBuis Thanks for reminding me that I need to continue watching his series one helms.
His channel is WAY more informative on both armor as well as arms. Less about personal preferences and more about historical knowledge.
Wow you get these free. That's awesome Skall!!
I made a gauntlet like that some time ago. Not as pretty, but I loved the result, so I gave it away to someone who deserved all the love poured into it.
so it seems a mitten style right hand and a fingered gauntlet for the left would be a good combo?
I like your style of thinking good sir !
So we can unscrew the pommel more easily!
Those gauntlets looks badass.
Someone once mentioned the fluting was for decoration, however it is almost certainly for stiffness, allowing higher resistance to deformation with thinner metal, just fold paper alternatively a few times and you can see the stiffness added.
My training partner has had these gloves for around a year. We spar steel longsword often enough (with a long break recently). I have given him some good strikes to the hands and these hold up for him fine. His hands are much larger than yours. He wears liner gloves as you recommend and has never complained. Some of the rivets are coming loose and his gauntlets are quite rusty, however he's still pretty happy. They are just a bit heavy and there are better options coming onto the market that are less cumbersome and more flexible.
How well could one throw a pommel with these equipped?
Nice design on those gauntlets. I really like them. What's the weight?
Great video! Even if they're not wildly protective, those gauntlets would probably work great for cosplay or something of that nature.
I have used these for full contact Long sword sparring (badgerblades - for reference) they quickly break down, tear, and loose segments. Just go with standard "clamshell" or "mitten" designs.
You just have to add some Wolverine claws to it and it would be perfect
gauntlets arnt supposed to void pain even if they where perfect you would still feel it and likely brake fingers. gauntlets are so your fingers break instead of been cut off
Did you see how much pain Skall was in while getting tapped with a plastic training sword? Imagine the pain of a full-force impact with those gauntlets. If Skall had properly-fitted gauntlets, then he probably wouldn't have felt a thing.
CreaturePlaysGames he would still feel pain and a full wack could still break fingers. better than having no fingers
+thunder2.0 However, he wouldn't be feeling nearly as much pain with proper gauntlets as he is with these.
CreaturePlaysGames well if it broke ur fingers you would be in a lot of pain
+thunder2.0 Better to have it not feel like you broke your fingers with a low-power hit.
Those gauntlets look cool as hell. I'd love to see a full suit with the style those gauntlets are based on.
What I usually do is I buy stock gauntlets and alter them to fit me better, and one thing I did for gauntlets with similar issues to the one your talking about is I put much thicker leather for the base so that way it absorbed a bit more of the force.
8 inches is a good length. I am sure Kara is pleased. ;)
+O'Dubhagain Circumference, mind you, not length. Still good measurement, though.
+ColonelDoYouReadMe I am sure he was just being modest.
+O'Dubhagain And if the dick is actually 20 cm in circumference... God. This is scary.
All of you are size queens...
It is what got me into swords ma'am ;)
"One size fits all equally poorly."
Those gauntlets look pretty nice, though. I picked up some Deepeeka gothic gauntlets a while back and while they're nice to look at, the metal is a little flimsy and untreated (I was able to make a dent in them with the point of a pocket knife) so they're not exactly functional. Finger articulation is a bit rougher too. I may pick these up at some point. Finger gauntlets aren't really as protective as those big mitten clamshell gauntlets but I would like the freedom of movement more.
+MGlBlaze The world is interesting, never knew you watched Skal :o
Hey Blaze
If you are going to spend that much money on gauntlets anyway, I'd recommend rather than buying these to check on how expensive it is to import a well made pair of gauntlets from Europe.
Look great for any reasons of showing off. Good articulation, look beautiful, maybe iffy defense.
I have gauntlet's pretty much like the ones you reviewed (just not the gothic style and bought from a czech smith). I like them, they look cool and they protect well as long as your oponent doesn't hit a rivet. And we're doing full contact sparring (had a few bruises on my fingers after 3 trainign sessions so I was going to flatten the inside of the rivets and now I hope it'll get better).
So good review! =)
They seem nice, but how well do they perform when I need to pay in cash while shopping for groceries? :p
+Rikketik Flash the longsword, money is for peasants.
+R Stewart Don't even need to flash the blade. Just point to the pommel and I think they'll get the point.
+Doad M For them to get the point you'd need to draw first.
+Dipayan Pyramid Head Dey
Go full darkwraith on the fuckers
Whats up with all these other videos skall I thought this was a gauntlet channel!
Wraith_LV it was either this or pommel channel but I figured that was already used so.
Liked for the smart move of giving hand measurements! (I'm a big fan a rational, thoughtful youtubers.) (Also liked for being yet another good, honest, (and engaging!) product review!)
I bought a great pair of steel gauntlets a few months ago. They are very similar to your pair, but instead of dozens of small plates on the fingers, mine has 3 half-cylinder plates on each finger. I found that this allows my fingers to move at any angle I could without the gauntlets on. The wrists also can articulate about 85 degrees up and 35-40 degrees down. I couldn't tell you who made them, since I got them from my local Renaissance Festival in an Armor shop. Very cool video, interesting to see other Gauntlet designs in use! I'd LOVE to see more armor reviews from you, would you even buy a full suit at some point?
anyone else want to see 2 guys wearing full plate armour boxing?
Wait! I thought gauntlets were illegal in Canada.
+berker sayılgan
Not at all. And it would be extremely bizarre if they were.
+Skallagrim It seems that in some jurisdictions gauntlets are grouped with brass knuckles.
Canadian law is very specific about the definition of brass knuckles, and gauntlets definitely don't fall under it.
+Skallagrim what about everything ever invented or produced from 250000bc and onwards is banned in canada
What about "brass" knuckles built onto guantlets? :3
Those gauntlets really look badass. I was really hoping to see you punch some stuff with them to see how much damage you could do to something with just your striking power added to the gauntlet.
My friend has those same gauntlets or atleast very similar looking and he's also using extra gloves inside them. I tried them on and they fitted pretty well even when i got really small hands.
>4;25
>implying that being a crab is a problem
+Roboute Guilliman #crabrights is what you're going for?
go back to being in stasis Ultra Smurf
+MrJinglejanglejingle Yes, crabs deserve to be equal with humans.
+mark maron I am in stasis, they gave me a text-to-speech device.
+Roboute Guilliman like your dad?
didn't he order your life support to be cut off??
thank kitten he didn't go through with it
omfg i saw Darksword in the title and i was filled with instant rage cas of dark souls 3. TY META SWORD !
I know how you feel.
Nah between all of the swords I fuckin' love the classic Longsword. And I love axes in Dark Souls 3.
+LordOfTheObvious That phantom range, though. ^_^
+LordOfTheObvious at least it's not an estoc.
+Wolf Lord Hardahat Nar, Lothric knight sword 4 life.
I can personally attest to the shortcomings of finger gloves. It's difficult to make a high mobility glove and still have really solid protection and durability. As bad as they can be for mobility, clamshells will always be more protective, and often more durable.
That was well shown, We at Batweb Gothic Reviews do Gothic reviews as well, if of a different profile, and enjoyed your presentation. We mostly work with daggers, but can appreciate the gauntlets, especially 15th century style. Subscribed to your channel.
How many small hands jokes did you have to endure in life? ... just asking
+weemist
Actually not a single one. People don't seem to notice my hand size at all.
+Skallagrim I feel so special now that you replied to my comment :D. Anyway, great work as usual, keep it up ;-).
+Skallagrim so you could say the digits are insignificant
+Skallagrim "It must feel huge on this hand" - Deadpool 2016
+weemist As long as they are bigger than Donald Drumpfs everything is fine
Now place the Gems and rule the Universe.
Or wipe out half....
I love this comment 3000
I just want them for a Nazgul cosplay, so as long as they're not going to fall apart I don't really mind. Really cool that you do proper sword fighting though!
I don't know how they work but they are probably most badass gauntlets I ever seen.
I'm sorry Skall, I know you said you like their look, but to my eye they're hideous, especially compared to real gothic gauntlets with their sleek, slender and sublime shape (I like alliterations ;-) ). Their mobility, especially in the thumb and wrist area, seems also quite restricted, and of course they're way oversized for you.
I said it before and I'll say it again: with armour, there's only one option: go custom. Or make it yourself, like I do, but that's not an option for everyone, of course.
+Belegond
I haven't had much to compare them to so far, so it's quite possible that I'm not critical enough, can't say.
Great review! Good for cosplay, bad for sparring. ;)
+Chaos Omega better then nothing however, and on an actual battlefield (as if that would ever happen lol) I'd probably prefer them because they are more flexible. That would allow to better grappling as fights between plated fighters usually ended in them grappling and sliding a dagger through the face plate.
boop boop
Most assuredly better than nothing!
In 2012 i got exactly the same pair from a German shop for 200-250€. I used them in
sparring with Feders and in Larpcombat. From the point of agility, you can do
everything with them. The main problem with this gauntlets is the leather
glove. They glued them to the steal
and this glue don't hold very long. Another disadvantage
are the rivets in the fingers. Direct hits on the fingers pull the rivets out
of the leather strip that holds it. Last year i removed the original leather
glove and replace it with light padded hema-gloves. Now they protect me really
well.
One thing i can say after 2 years of reenactment with steel weapons is that mail gauntlets hurt a lot less than plate if you get hit in the hand, but padding will always help in the long run
You know what they say, small hands small........ gauntlets.
What a terrible design, it slows down the unscrewing of a pommel.
candy castle idiot
@@ThereIsNoGodOnlyUs r/wooosh
i got those, i even got skeptical and did a file test they were very soft. so i took them apart. left brass bits behind and tempered the steel pieces. 1500*f for 30 mins. then quenched. waited.. then cook for 550* for 30 mins in oven. then pulled out let it cool down on its own. polished it up. riveted brass bits back on. it passed 53+ mohs per array of file test kit. im happy.
I've got a similar pair of gauntlets and can back up the absolute need of either having a separate pair of gloves underneath, or getting the gauntlets bound to entirely new/better gloves.
Can't speak towards the more segmented fingers, but my pair has only two segments and a knuckle piece that seemed to lessen the blow slightly.
Needs a pommel,otherwise how will you end anyone rightly?
He hates that joke.
Cleba enjoys that joke.
Did he actually say he hates it ?
No he sells shirts that have "end him rightly" on it and skall throwing a pommel so Del Taco is wrong.
Whatever man I specifically saw him comment that he was getting tired of it.
They might now be really practical, but gosh they are gorgeous !!!
You should do a video about the Witcher 3 , not necessarily to scrutinize if it's historically accurate but to bring infos on the designs that may have inspired swords and armors
I would like to see him do more armor reviews!
The thin gloves may may offer less protection but make it easier to unscrew pommel. Therefore, it would be even more efficient to end them rightly.
Gothic armor sure does have a unique look with the fluting. Those look awesome and would turn a lot of heads as a historical custom. Shame they do not work great for protection though.
Why are the knuckle guards slightly different? One is riveted in the center while the other is attached from below.
These might not be good for sparring, but for a zombie apocalypse, well they're perfect. Guarded from bites as well as a nice surface area for smashing heads
I'm looking at wrist wraps and padded gloves ie. UFC debt collectors underneath any sort of hard armour. Basically you always need a soft layer under the hard layer :)
"I become a Crab!" That almost sounded like you were casting a spell on yourself. xD
Wondertwin powers activate!
You know what they say about people with small hands... they throw a mean pommel when ending rightly. Also, is it easy to unscrew your pommel with the gauntlets on?
Oh man, they look so good.
I think almost everyone here agrees with this buuut- Those gauntlets looking floopen amazing!
I'll sit here and hope for more armour videos, as they all look so great!
Imagine for a moment what Skall would look like, wearing a full set of armour. I'm not even talking a full complete set of armour- but rather a set of armour, with pieces of other sets of armour mixed together to create Skall's set of armour.- Man, I'm gonna be subscribed here for all eternity for the inevitable video of the above!
As usual, great video :) (you have so awesome voice - so calming to listen to for me)
Skallgrim, I got a question about reviewing: how does that work when you get stuff send to you for review ? Do you get to keep the stuff (as a gift ?) or are you supposed to ship it back after some some ? What if it gets damaged or something ?
Hopefully you can shed some light on that for me :)
THEY LOOK SO COOL THOUGH
The way to go would seem to be using asymmetrical gauntlets, one crab pincer mitten to completely protect your sword hand and one fully articulated gauntlet for fine manipulation or holding a shield.
I somehow imagine that keeping up with the "one size fits all" theme they made the original leather glove purposefully thin so the user could compensate for their hand size by using thicker or thinner underglove or no underglove at all so that the glove fits the user better- kinda reminds me of how the finnish army does their combat "gantlets" (essentially very very sturdy glove meant to be used with one or two softer and thinner under-gloves, making holding guns warmer in winter and increasing comfort when crawling in hazardous places like floors with broken glass)
Will you be doing an updated video on your entire collection? The last was a while ago unless I've missed one in which case I now look stupid. You have gained quite a few for reviews and fans since then so it would be great to see some of the newer ones
Im not sure about historical accuracy but the fingered gauntlets I HAVE used (besides clams) in the SCA Heavy division had finger plates extending below the total depth of the finger. This allowed the metal to connect with the sword grip and disperse its energy into the grip/gauntlet instead of directly into the fingers like both sets of gauntlets would do. If your gauntlet was attached right it still allowed a direct grip by the hand on what ever surface you touched as well. Its just a little more material on the fingers but saved me from many hand shots that dented the armor and no doubt would have broke my fingers.
+Skallagrim
What would be your recommendation for padded gloves to put under these kind of guantlets, that are one size fits all. I don't have a set and I'm curious what you would recommend?
They look REALLY cool!
+Skallagrim whats the go on moving so that armour takes the blow better, for example using a gauntlet like a shield if you don't have a shield available? Just something Ive only ever noticed as one of those "this could be the last thing i do, lets try the fancy move" sort of things like when the hero suddenly uses a backwards facing sword
You should do a video about the weapons in League of Legends, your fantasy weapon videos are the best! I really like your channel, keep up the good work C:
If I had the money, I would pay for a custom fit full set of armor in that style. They look amazing.
Hey guys you do a destructive test, test only the right glove. If you keep the left you can try a mix and match with the mit in on your right and that one on your left. Safety and dexterity combo. Would be good for full contract when you are healed, as well as be an "in the field" test too along with the destructive one.
Can you use them for blocking (obviously not with your hands/fingers) for incoming blade attacks, so you can get closer to the enemy if youre wielding a smaller weapon, blade, etc?
Wear the mitten on your sword hand and use the gothic one on your offhand for grappling.
What do you think about gauntlets that's fingers end in claws? I think there are pretty good offensive capabilities. I'm thinking of the Prince's gauntlets in the 2008 part of Prince of Persia for example.
It probably makes more sense to use the more articulate gloves and such mostly for dressing up and looking nice, and the mittens or other better-armored and less-articulate gloves and mittens for actual sparring.
considering some of what I know about armor (which is not much), wouldn't knights generally wear lighter armor (like leather and mail) underneath the plate?
We the clam shells from Armstreet? Great review. This is good to know.
When you pointed the fingers close to the camera, I noticed that there is another rivet on the back of the finger segments beneath the higher segments, I would guess that's what's holding them to the glove. Overall, beautifully crafted. stiffen the padding a bit and I bet they'd do well, though I think in this case the design trades protection for flexibility. However, all things considered in the era these would have been designed in, broken fingers would still be preferable to severed fingers.
Your hair is on point lately.
I have a full late 14th century German style suit of armor and the issue with padding in the gauntlets are not a problem and I can take a heavy blow to the hands. If you want truly functional armor you go to Outfit4events and if you want good quality chain mail I recommend battlemerchant.
... okay, those are actually a damn good reference for my work on my tesla gauntlet. Ôo
Time to go back to the drawing board.
Would some thin/medium sized chainmail between the plates and the gloves reduce the impact of the first ones with the hands? Maybe i've watched some kind of gauntlent like that in some games ... i don't know :P
can you make a video about armoured combat? would also be awesome to see your armour collection