I flew with them from JFK to Rome and back last summer. The flight was pretty full in back but light in Premium Economy where my husband and I sat. The service was just about what you described and made for a nice flight. My husband is tall so we are always looking for a cost effective way to be comfortable and Norse was great. They are definitely the airline to beat for us if we travel to Europe since once you get to a big city it is easy to travel by train.
It's really quite depressing that a fantastic airline might not survive because people are too stuck in their ways and unwilling to take 2 minutes of basic research for a better product.
It doesn't look like you noticed that the footrest actually flips down and extends longer. Not just comes out from the chair. It's nice for taller people. As a travel agent, I try to promote Norse as much as I can, because I agree with you! It's my favorite long haul premium class line and I don't want it to go away!
I was just replying to another comment on here but I thought I would leave my own to correct you and tell you Norwegian did not go bust during the pandemic, but they closed all their long haul routes down and got rid of their 787s. But they are alive and well and operating 737s all over Europe. You can even see two of their flights on the Gatwick departures screen in the video. Great review of Norse though, I hope they can sustain the long haul low cost model.
I also live very close to Gatwick, on a bus stop away to be precise. The entrance and check in area of the south terminal has been in a state of renovation for so mamy years. But airside it is good and they have lounges you can pay for, and a Camden food company if you looked, the last time I was there i saw it tucked away in a corner. Norse Atlantic's predecessor had a big base at LGW, and they had 14 hour flights to Buenos Aires and Bangkok too as well as a lot of shorthaul. Norse are flying to a few places including Las Vegas, Los Angeles and other places.
Yeah, I noticed that Camden food co! I was half tempted to check it out, but figured that a proper breakfast at a sit down restaurant would be a better choice considering that I had no idea what the food on Norse would be like.
We have flown to and from various US cities on Norse over the past few years, in both economy and premium economy. All of our flights have been fantastic. I would 100% choose them over Virgin or BA. We are flying one way back from Miami to London in a few weeks (after a transatlantic cruise) and I found an absolutely insane fare of £203 pp premium economy classic!!! It was over double that in standard economy with anyone else! An absolute no brainer. For ref, although the south terminal at Gatwick is not the best, i love that they have pay to use lounges so for circa £25, you can have unlimited food and drinks in a lounge for 3 hours. Perfect!
I just checked. Oct 2024 dates Norse basic economy (no seat selection no checked luggage) LGW-JFK is 470 round trip versus 448 round for United economy (seat selection and 1 checked luggage). In premium economy classic Norse is 984 round trip (1 checked luggage) versus United for 1003 round trip (2 checked luggage). With these prices, I would pick United as I can collect miles and use my *G status for lounge access (lounges in Heathrow are so much better). Plus United departs from Heathrow which is much easier to get to compared to Gatwick.
Thank you for the review. In future reviews, can you possibly show what your seat looks like when the person in front on you reclines their seat all the way. This usually ruins my flight, when the passenger in front of me reclines their seat all the way, into my space, even before we take off. I feel I also pay the same fee for my seat, so keeping other passengers in mind will be a great idea. So even though it is nice to see how far my seat reclines, it would be great to see how far the passenger in front of me reclines as well. Thanks for your awesome videos. Looking forward to the next one.
I just flew Norse JFK to BER round trip. Prices were about 1/3 of the other airlines. Jfk terminal 7 is not the best, but all of the shops were open on a late Sunday night, which was unexpected. In Berlin, the gate was T1 D17 which was in an isolated area of the terminal... but they did open the bar/ restaurant for our flight. My seats were in economy with extra legroom rows 7 and 11, which were worth the extra price to me. The row 7 seats are not great since they are next to the kitchen. There is no bulkhead in front of you for storage, and the screens are in the armrest, which means you can't lift them if the seat next to you is empty. Row 11 was better for me, even though you are behind the bathroom and hear every flush. Food was decent, crew was nice and the planes were in great shape.
Love the report Scott. Really hope Norse make it too. In a purely selfish way you want them to stay under the radar because like Norwegian the fares can be extraordinary. Already eyeing LAX to LGW. They don’t seem to appear on search engines, maybe I’m wrong. They have just introduced a brave new route from LGW to Cape Town. Lots to admire. Fingers and toes crossed for them.
Yeah, several people have mentioned the new Cape Town route. Sounds really interesting! I had no idea. I really hope they make it too, but it may take a miracle at this point…
We flew Norse Atlantic in premium in Feb this year: Gatwick to Orlando, and Miami to Gatwick. The flight out was brilliant. Great flight attendant (A.J.) and had no complaints about anything. Return flight not so great - completely different attitude anong the cabin crew. The main thing with Norse is the PRICE. It is a fantastic deal. We paid around £500 each, each way. All the competitors on the same routes were a minimum of double, and on the return from Miami, THREE times the price. Really do hope they survive - we'd love to fly on them again. Unfortunately, I'm a bit of a jinx on airlines: loved Wardair back in the 70s (got absorbed by Canadian Pacific, then they went bust), loved British Caledonian in the 80s (they got taken over by British Airways.... nuff said?).
I flew this product in the short lived LAX-BER route (I booked the day the route was announced because it fit perfectly into my existing travel plans) so. I had more time to enjoy the seat. Thanks to massive recline it can be bothersome to get out of a window or center seat if the seat in front of the aisle seat is reclined. Many passengers didn't realize the footrest AR adjustable. The premium trays sometimes don't stow correctly which led to a go around in Berlin. because the cabin crew wasn't finished securing the premium cabin. I'm currently looking into the BER-JFK and Mia-ber route this fall. Of course premium (with these prices). Pro tipp: it's cheaper to book the cheapest premium option and add luggage than to book the medium premium option which as far as I can see only has added luggage.
I’ve got a flight from JFK to FCO coming up, glad to see some positive reviews and comments on Norse Atlantic. I decided to give them a try bc of the cheap ticket
I loved Norwegian Air when I lived in the northeast US! I flew them often. I visited much of Northern Europe using them. Now I live in the mid Atlantic US and it’s not as convenient. Norse is still very, very reasonable, I would consider flying from MIA or MCO. Stay with family in Florida for a few days then jet. Nice, thanks for sharing!
Looks fantastic! BTW I live very close to LGW and it's a much nicer experience IMO than LHR which is ridiculously busy. LGW is small, and there are several restaurants and bars with runway or ramp views, plus plenty of decent shops. I always get to the airport early even though I'm a 10 minute taxi ride away and I always find things to fill my time. It's easy to get to LGW from central London (don't use the Gatwick Express - use the Thameslink service - just as reliable, not quite as fast but it's fast enough, and it's a fraction of the price.
Oddly enough, I paid for a ticket on the Gatwick Express from central London, but the weather was really bad that day and they had to shut it down. They put us on what I assume was the Thameslink service instead. It was a very expensive ride on a low budget train. 😅
@@sanspotter that's a shame! The other thing with the Thameslink is that there are many more stations in Central London that you can pick it up at - and nicer stations - Victoria has to be the worst London terminus station there is...dark, dingy, cramped, not much there -
I flew Norse Atlantic for the first time last November, JFK to Gatwick, premium economy. It was one of the most enjoyable flights I’ve ever taken. Comfy seats with PLENTY of leg room! I’m flying Norse again in a few weeks (premium Econ agsin) from Gatwick to JFK. My only criticism is that they did not (probably still don’t, I’m guessing) offer online check in.
I remember flying Norwegian in 2017! Judging by all of the surprise and delight in this video it seems like Norse hasn’t dropped the ball. I’ll have to see what trips we can book with them!
Surprise and delight - that would’ve been so much better than simply saying ‘yup’ on the thumbnail I think. I couldn’t think of anything better at the time. 😄 But yeah - you’ve got to give it a go!
Wow, it's just like the old days when I used to have it in the back of my head to try Norwegian Air and kept reminding myself to do it before they went out of business.
Norwegian is still very much alive! They stopped their long haul routes after the pandemic but still operate alot of routes in northern scandinavia aswell as europe. Got over 100 boeing 737. They leased these aircrafts to Norse. Both norwegian companies!
Flying has been a hobby of mine for ages. I just checked the airfare, Premium from Gatwick to JFK, one way. $500. The seat and the meal you ate looked almost identical to the American Airlines's flight I took last week in their Premium Economy from Barcelona to Philadelphia. the AA Premium Econ Gatwick to JFK, one way, was $3000. Flying Norse under these circumstances would be an absolute no brainer!
Definitely! Only downside is that you wouldn’t get any AA / OneWorld points for it. Airlines like Norse are best enjoyed when you’re not tied to any specific airline alliance. 😄
At 03:00 I use the time to get my daily steps in! Pedometers come into their own at airports! Question for you Scott, given that this is clearly better than most premium economies (I've just watched your Air France from Chicago!) should Norse be branding this option differently? I'd call it "Plus", that is to say not premium economy and not business. I have LGW to CPT (11.30 hours) in January, I think in the same seat as you! My budget doesn't normally stretch beyond economy but as I bought this one before the route had started it was an offer I couldn't refuse, i.e. much cheaper than BA economy.
I did two premium flights from Gatwick to JFK, one in 2018 on Norwegian, one last year on Norse. The seats were different in my experience. The Norwegian seats were a struggle to get out of, and you had to ask the people in the seats in front of you to unrecline, otherwise there was not enough room between the seat back and the armrest for you to escape your seat. There was plenty more room in the Norse seats.
Interesting! My assumption was that nothing had changed. But it’s good to know that they’ve made some important improvements from the Norwegian Air days.
Very good video Scott. I have watched several other AvGeek videos of them flying Norse Atlantic and most all have been positive like yours. It would certainly be sad to see them go under due to lack of passengers. Norse Atlantic may be the best kept secret of transatlantic flight.
Thank you! Yes, hopefully our videos will be enough to get people to take notice of Norse. Things aren’t looking good for them at the moment, but I’m hoping they can pull through.
We seriously considered Norse for our most recent trip. Ultimately, we booked Virgin Atlantic premium economy (with points) instead. Mostly, it was because the schedules/routes seemed to be in flux with Norse, and they weren't releasing the routes/schedules early enough for our liking. I would definitely consider them for the future.
I am glad you had that seat empty. And having that space beside you wss soo good!! And the airline's food good for Economy Class. And I think people are using this airline and saving some costs. Again, thank ypu fir trying this airline out to fly long-haul. I know for me, I need more leg room traveling on those long-haul trips.
I loved Norwegian Premium Economy. I had a great experience on their flight from FCO to JFK. I sure hope Norse survives and expands their route, but like you I am not very optimistic about it.
If Norse flew to more places around the USA, I’d be more interested to try them. Chicago would be great and a far easier connection for a lot of us (myself included) in the Midwest. I think they’d get some more people willing to try them out if they were in more areas. I know planes are expensive. But it would help get eyes on their product.
It looked pretty full down the back!!👏 Norse needs to market their brand more and they haven't had to deal with the Rolls Royce engine issues that Norwegian got bogged down with. Nice flight review 👏
Norse Atlantic is really not bad, I flew with them last year from JFK to Berlin and if they run a special fare, the price is unbeatable for Premium Economy. But I recognized a few differences between our flights, is there a difference between Norse Atlantic and Norse Atlantic UK? I had a redeye-flight with them and haven’t got amenities and a blanket 🧐 Or perhaps they‘ve improved their service 😁
There probably are a lot of differences. I remember Norwegian being broken up into many different subsidiaries (offering different onboard experiences) and it was really confusing to keep track of it all. Sounds like the same situation…
I want to travel to Europe so badly and this airline definitely makes it much more financially possible, looking at flights, premium economy costs LESS than basic economy on main airlines like American, United, Delta, etc.
Why the aisle seat, Scott? The flight wasn't full, or was P.E. full? Don't you like the outside entertainment (better than any ICE screen)? Norwegian certainly needs to thrive. Great report, you never fail to entertain and provide a great report.
Nice work. Having finished your movie, your ‘only complaint’ was that there were still 4hrs of the flight left. I don’t think any customer service department could change that. Cryogenic suspension perhaps!😅😅
Those triangle hash browns are so common in the UK weird! ETA: that airplane food looks grim though. As you may know, some carriers serve PE coach food while others do business.
Yes Norse is doing better with New York than certain other US destinations. From LGW flight schedules have been reduced to certain other US points while BOS and IAD have been axed. Norse's foray to the Caribbean has failed (even for the limited schedules planned for winter 2024/5. Maybe CPT will prove to be a success.
Wow, I didn’t even realize the situation was that dire. I’m shocked that they are struggling to be profitable (because they offer a great onboard product IMHO).
Any experience with the admin is fornthis airline? Curious if it could support robust new years/christmas travel with holiday cancelations and customic panic😅.
Norse Atlantic basically just took over the old Norwegian 787s and started up with these second hand planes in a new paint scheme. Its a similar thing with WOW Air & PLAY, they just simply took up the old business model under a new name and took notes on where things went wrong before.
Hey, at least you got your steps in while at Gatwick, lol. I'm becoming a free agent since I probably won't qualify for Asiana Diamond this year, no more Star Aliiance Gold :( . The premium economy seats and experience on Norse-wegian look great. I'd consider it. Though yes, it would be interesting to see Premium Economy full and compare it with what you had. I love that Norse, JetBlue, and others are willing to step into the Trans-Atlantic space, the better, for us not just in price, but hopefully quality too. Thanks for sharing.
You’re very welcome! Yeah, I suspect that one of the reasons why Norse is struggling so much is that most travelers are stuck in one or two major airline alliances. It’s hard to justify flying long-haul and not getting valuable status points on a “real” airline for it. And yes - I’d love to try this again on a full flight just to see if the experience is any different. My economy Norwegian Air flight from London to Los Angeles in 2019 was completely full and it was pretty nice actually.
@@sanspotter Well hello! Life has been well taxing (actually works well in uk English) but I must say lately I have been doing quite well indeed. Well see what the future brings, but new Sanspotter videos (and a car review!) are always wellcome 😌
Looks like a good plane and I think the Premium Economy wouldn’t be a bad option provide the seat isn’t rock hard. I wonder if the poor load factor was something to do with the obsession with Heathrow some have?
It was also mid January when I took this flight, which is the low season for leisure travel between London and New York. I’m hoping that things are starting to pick up by now…
Norwegian Air didn't go bankrupt. They restructured and in the process sold their long haul planes. Since Norwegian recently bought Widerøe, it's now the largest airline in Scandinavia, ahead of SAS!
Same hardware as Scoot, way different experience for Norse. Anyway, I want to know about the fare, as the economy fare of this flight usually takes ~$200.
As a frequent flyer, who has flown from most of the UKs major airports. I find your criticism of Gatwick to be ridiculous. It's by far one of the best airports in the UK, and the amenities are fantastic. If you're departing from South terminal, arriving ahead of schedule. Then catching the monorail to the North terminal is advised, the North is far better equipped.
There are plenty of PAYG lounges at Gatwick. Try the Clubrooms next time; they are under-reviewed. Good report. You were flying with Norse's UK subsidiary, which will be flying down to Cape Town soon.
Very informative video. I can tell you now, though, that no British person would have the slightest issue spending three hours at any airport. We have rules to follow, and that breakfast wouldn't be accompanied by orange juice.
I remember the old version. Both flights were the worst I ever had. We went from Oakland to Denmark. We left eight hours late. My seat was broken, and I cut my ankle when boarding. The seat back would not sit upright, so I sat on the edge of my seat the whole flight. The flight attendants were so unpleasant it was shocking. Our return flight was to be the reverse landing in Oakland. They changed us to a flight landing in San Francisco, which, of course, would not let us transfer to our flight home. So we called telling them we wanted what we paid for and then told them we wanted the seats we paid for. They said ok and gave no explanation as to why they switched us to a different airport. When we got to the airport, we were told we had different seats. We were delegated to the center seats, putting us next to some random guy who was ill, and again, I got another broken seat. I tried for months to get some kind of compensation but to no avail. I would not chance it again, so as far as I am concerned, they can go out of business. I am glad you had a fairly decent flight.
Wow, sounds like a very bad experience. I will admit that the flight attendants on this particular flight seemed cold and disinterested as well - but everything else was great. Hopefully you’ll reconsider and give them another chance someday!
Whenever I look at this airline for flights, they are normally only about £40 cheaper than the main carriers so I just pay more for a better economy product. If I actually saw a flight with their advertised cheaper price then heck yeah I'd go with them, but as I said, I have never seen them have a cheap flight.
I’ve hopped the pond 10 times in the last 2 years. I’m your standard, always-economy, un-tied-to-an-alliance traveller, and never has Norse been the cheapest option for me. I always see them in results, but Delta/Virgin/JetBlue is always cheaper than Norse for me.
What was your airfare and do they have any wifi (paid or free)? I can confirm that flying premier economy via Cathay or Singapore Airlines is much better..tks
No WiFi (or at least it wasn’t available on my flight). I paid $900 for this - which is way high but it was a fairly last-minute purchase. And oh yeah - I would definitely choose Singapore Airlines or Cathay Pacific over this!
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Welcome back, Scott…always happy to see one of your videos showing up!
Thank you kindly!
I flew with them from JFK to Rome and back last summer. The flight was pretty full in back but light in Premium Economy where my husband and I sat. The service was just about what you described and made for a nice flight. My husband is tall so we are always looking for a cost effective way to be comfortable and Norse was great. They are definitely the airline to beat for us if we travel to Europe since once you get to a big city it is easy to travel by train.
It's really quite depressing that a fantastic airline might not survive because people are too stuck in their ways and unwilling to take 2 minutes of basic research for a better product.
It doesn't look like you noticed that the footrest actually flips down and extends longer. Not just comes out from the chair. It's nice for taller people. As a travel agent, I try to promote Norse as much as I can, because I agree with you! It's my favorite long haul premium class line and I don't want it to go away!
Thanks for the info! Yeah, I gave up on it for really quickly once I realized it didn’t support my legs in the default state. 😄
I was just replying to another comment on here but I thought I would leave my own to correct you and tell you Norwegian did not go bust during the pandemic, but they closed all their long haul routes down and got rid of their 787s. But they are alive and well and operating 737s all over Europe. You can even see two of their flights on the Gatwick departures screen in the video. Great review of Norse though, I hope they can sustain the long haul low cost model.
How was JFK to Gatwick? Was JFK strict with your personal item? Did they make it size it with the new dimensions?
Yeah, I think that Play Airlines took some of Norwegian Air and Wow Air's routes to North America.
And they suffered a shit load of troubble with the engines.....
I also live very close to Gatwick, on a bus stop away to be precise. The entrance and check in area of the south terminal has been in a state of renovation for so mamy years. But airside it is good and they have lounges you can pay for, and a Camden food company if you looked, the last time I was there i saw it tucked away in a corner. Norse Atlantic's predecessor had a big base at LGW, and they had 14 hour flights to Buenos Aires and Bangkok too as well as a lot of shorthaul. Norse are flying to a few places including Las Vegas, Los Angeles and other places.
Yeah, I noticed that Camden food co! I was half tempted to check it out, but figured that a proper breakfast at a sit down restaurant would be a better choice considering that I had no idea what the food on Norse would be like.
We have flown to and from various US cities on Norse over the past few years, in both economy and premium economy. All of our flights have been fantastic. I would 100% choose them over Virgin or BA. We are flying one way back from Miami to London in a few weeks (after a transatlantic cruise) and I found an absolutely insane fare of £203 pp premium economy classic!!! It was over double that in standard economy with anyone else! An absolute no brainer.
For ref, although the south terminal at Gatwick is not the best, i love that they have pay to use lounges so for circa £25, you can have unlimited food and drinks in a lounge for 3 hours. Perfect!
I just checked. Oct 2024 dates Norse basic economy (no seat selection no checked luggage) LGW-JFK is 470 round trip versus 448 round for United economy (seat selection and 1 checked luggage). In premium economy classic Norse is 984 round trip (1 checked luggage) versus United for 1003 round trip (2 checked luggage). With these prices, I would pick United as I can collect miles and use my *G status for lounge access (lounges in Heathrow are so much better). Plus United departs from Heathrow which is much easier to get to compared to Gatwick.
Yeah when they are the same price, kinda hard to not choose a full service airline over the low cost options
Thank you for the review. In future reviews, can you possibly show what your seat looks like when the person in front on you reclines their seat all the way. This usually ruins my flight, when the passenger in front of me reclines their seat all the way, into my space, even before we take off. I feel I also pay the same fee for my seat, so keeping other passengers in mind will be a great idea. So even though it is nice to see how far my seat reclines, it would be great to see how far the passenger in front of me reclines as well. Thanks for your awesome videos. Looking forward to the next one.
I just flew Norse JFK to BER round trip. Prices were about 1/3 of the other airlines. Jfk terminal 7 is not the best, but all of the shops were open on a late Sunday night, which was unexpected. In Berlin, the gate was T1 D17 which was in an isolated area of the terminal... but they did open the bar/ restaurant for our flight. My seats were in economy with extra legroom rows 7 and 11, which were worth the extra price to me. The row 7 seats are not great since they are next to the kitchen. There is no bulkhead in front of you for storage, and the screens are in the armrest, which means you can't lift them if the seat next to you is empty. Row 11 was better for me, even though you are behind the bathroom and hear every flush. Food was decent, crew was nice and the planes were in great shape.
Norse Atlantic is an amazing airline. I really hope they stay around. Just flew JFK - CDG and the flight was packed.
Love the report Scott. Really hope Norse make it too. In a purely selfish way you want them to stay under the radar because like Norwegian the fares can be extraordinary. Already eyeing LAX to LGW. They don’t seem to appear on search engines, maybe I’m wrong. They have just introduced a brave new route from LGW to Cape Town. Lots to admire. Fingers and toes crossed for them.
Yeah, several people have mentioned the new Cape Town route. Sounds really interesting! I had no idea. I really hope they make it too, but it may take a miracle at this point…
We flew Norse Atlantic in premium in Feb this year: Gatwick to Orlando, and Miami to Gatwick. The flight out was brilliant. Great flight attendant (A.J.) and had no complaints about anything. Return flight not so great - completely different attitude anong the cabin crew.
The main thing with Norse is the PRICE. It is a fantastic deal. We paid around £500 each, each way. All the competitors on the same routes were a minimum of double, and on the return from Miami, THREE times the price.
Really do hope they survive - we'd love to fly on them again.
Unfortunately, I'm a bit of a jinx on airlines: loved Wardair back in the 70s (got absorbed by Canadian Pacific, then they went bust), loved British Caledonian in the 80s (they got taken over by British Airways.... nuff said?).
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I like Norse Atlantic, they have a good product and nice crews. Not to mention the food.. I hope they pull through.
I flew this product in the short lived LAX-BER route (I booked the day the route was announced because it fit perfectly into my existing travel plans) so. I had more time to enjoy the seat.
Thanks to massive recline it can be bothersome to get out of a window or center seat if the seat in front of the aisle seat is reclined. Many passengers didn't realize the footrest AR adjustable. The premium trays sometimes don't stow correctly which led to a go around in Berlin. because the cabin crew wasn't finished securing the premium cabin.
I'm currently looking into the BER-JFK and Mia-ber route this fall. Of course premium (with these prices). Pro tipp: it's cheaper to book the cheapest premium option and add luggage than to book the medium premium option which as far as I can see only has added luggage.
i have flown norse atlantic premium class from lgw to jfk. it was really good.
Thank you. This video made decide which airline to take from London to Los Angeles . Definitely I'll choose Norse Atlantic Premium Class
I’ve got a flight from JFK to FCO coming up, glad to see some positive reviews and comments on Norse Atlantic. I decided to give them a try bc of the cheap ticket
Great review 👏. Let's hope a "SANspotter" recommendation will boost Norse Atlantic's load factor and survivability. ❤✈️
Thanks! I wouldn’t get your hopes up. I carry very little clout in this game. 😅
May showed 513 flights, and an average 253 sold seats on every flight out of 298.
@@Hallingguttwhere did u find this information?
I loved Norwegian Air when I lived in the northeast US! I flew them often. I visited much of Northern Europe using them. Now I live in the mid Atlantic US and it’s not as convenient. Norse is still very, very reasonable, I would consider flying from MIA or MCO. Stay with family in Florida for a few days then jet. Nice, thanks for sharing!
Great way to start my Weekend!. Miss flying and hope to do it again soon.
Ain’t nothing like a gushy Norse video to kick off the weekend, eh? 😄 Hopefully you get back in the air soon!
Looks fantastic! BTW I live very close to LGW and it's a much nicer experience IMO than LHR which is ridiculously busy. LGW is small, and there are several restaurants and bars with runway or ramp views, plus plenty of decent shops. I always get to the airport early even though I'm a 10 minute taxi ride away and I always find things to fill my time. It's easy to get to LGW from central London (don't use the Gatwick Express - use the Thameslink service - just as reliable, not quite as fast but it's fast enough, and it's a fraction of the price.
Oddly enough, I paid for a ticket on the Gatwick Express from central London, but the weather was really bad that day and they had to shut it down. They put us on what I assume was the Thameslink service instead. It was a very expensive ride on a low budget train. 😅
My preference too - but parking is getting expensive, so I'm gravitating towards Stansted.
@@sanspotter that's a shame! The other thing with the Thameslink is that there are many more stations in Central London that you can pick it up at - and nicer stations - Victoria has to be the worst London terminus station there is...dark, dingy, cramped, not much there -
Getting there from any part of Surrey or Hampshire by train is a pain. Plus, you get looks with your baggage. 😂
@@prettymiffedbrit Sorry I live in Surrey and it is very easy for me.
I flew Norse Atlantic for the first time last November, JFK to Gatwick, premium economy. It was one of the most enjoyable flights I’ve ever taken. Comfy seats with PLENTY of leg room! I’m flying Norse again in a few weeks (premium Econ agsin) from Gatwick to JFK. My only criticism is that they did not (probably still don’t, I’m guessing) offer online check in.
Great video as always Scott
Glad you enjoyed it!
I remember flying Norwegian in 2017! Judging by all of the surprise and delight in this video it seems like Norse hasn’t dropped the ball. I’ll have to see what trips we can book with them!
Surprise and delight - that would’ve been so much better than simply saying ‘yup’ on the thumbnail I think. I couldn’t think of anything better at the time. 😄 But yeah - you’ve got to give it a go!
Wow, it's just like the old days when I used to have it in the back of my head to try Norwegian Air and kept reminding myself to do it before they went out of business.
Well, now is your chance! 😆
Norwegian are still operating. They just stopped flying long haul during the pandemic. They still have over 100 aircraft and fly all over Europe.
Norwegian is still very much alive! They stopped their long haul routes after the pandemic but still operate alot of routes in northern scandinavia aswell as europe. Got over 100 boeing 737. They leased these aircrafts to Norse. Both norwegian companies!
Flying has been a hobby of mine for ages. I just checked the airfare, Premium from Gatwick to JFK, one way. $500. The seat and the meal you ate looked almost identical to the American Airlines's flight I took last week in their Premium Economy from Barcelona to Philadelphia. the AA Premium Econ Gatwick to JFK, one way, was $3000. Flying Norse under these circumstances would be an absolute no brainer!
Definitely! Only downside is that you wouldn’t get any AA / OneWorld points for it. Airlines like Norse are best enjoyed when you’re not tied to any specific airline alliance. 😄
I enjoy your reviews. You do a very good job at being concise thorough and entertaining. Great job! 🎉
Airlines like Norse, Zip air and play are perfect for people like me who want to travel comfortably but have to budget. I hope they stay around awhile
Safe travels. Have an amazing day! Cheers.
At 03:00 I use the time to get my daily steps in! Pedometers come into their own at airports! Question for you Scott, given that this is clearly better than most premium economies (I've just watched your Air France from Chicago!) should Norse be branding this option differently? I'd call it "Plus", that is to say not premium economy and not business.
I have LGW to CPT (11.30 hours) in January, I think in the same seat as you! My budget doesn't normally stretch beyond economy but as I bought this one before the route had started it was an offer I couldn't refuse, i.e. much cheaper than BA economy.
I did two premium flights from Gatwick to JFK, one in 2018 on Norwegian, one last year on Norse. The seats were different in my experience. The Norwegian seats were a struggle to get out of, and you had to ask the people in the seats in front of you to unrecline, otherwise there was not enough room between the seat back and the armrest for you to escape your seat. There was plenty more room in the Norse seats.
Interesting! My assumption was that nothing had changed. But it’s good to know that they’ve made some important improvements from the Norwegian Air days.
@@sanspotter Probably the Norse seats had extra leg room over Norwegian, but I felt that the Norse seats were better than Norwegian.
Never seen what Gatwick looks like on the inside. I wish I could unsee it.
Nuts lol 😄
THANK YOU for commenting about the nuts. You’re the first one who noticed. 😄
@@sanspotter lol can’t believe no one else caught that. We know now if you ever start an airline you’ll have warm nuts on the menu!
if you can't entertain yourself at Gatwick with all the shop restaurants etc then u have some issues ! you could of booked a lounge
Very good video Scott. I have watched several other AvGeek videos of them flying Norse Atlantic and most all have been positive like yours. It would certainly be sad to see them go under due to lack of passengers. Norse Atlantic may be the best kept secret of transatlantic flight.
Thank you! Yes, hopefully our videos will be enough to get people to take notice of Norse. Things aren’t looking good for them at the moment, but I’m hoping they can pull through.
We seriously considered Norse for our most recent trip. Ultimately, we booked Virgin Atlantic premium economy (with points) instead. Mostly, it was because the schedules/routes seemed to be in flux with Norse, and they weren't releasing the routes/schedules early enough for our liking. I would definitely consider them for the future.
I was wondering about the lack of a video screen. Glad it does exist!
It does exist! Technically I had three all to myself thanks to having two empty seats next to me.
Norse has been my go to for value in crossing the pond. I sure hope they last for years to come.
Nice one, didn't now this airline was an option. Looks like a great product in terms of value for money.
Yeah, it seems a lot of people don’t know about this. We need to get the word out! 📢
Thank you for sharing your trip here.😊
I am glad you had that seat empty. And having that space beside you wss soo good!! And the airline's food good for Economy Class. And I think people are using this airline and saving some costs. Again, thank ypu fir trying this airline out to fly long-haul. I know for me, I need more leg room traveling on those long-haul trips.
Great content as always.
Much appreciated!
Great trip report!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the honest review 😊
You’re very welcome!
Man I want to fly Norse in Premium so bad...only problem is they dont fly out of Chicago. Hope that changes before too long
Yeah, I think they need to at least try Chicago. They might do well!
Scott, you sold me. Unfortunately, I'm not going to London any time soon, and certainly not from a JFK departure point.
Maybe I need to think about selling cars for a living. 🤔😄 But yeah - definitely keep them in mind for your next long-haul adventure!
Why no mention of the price paid for the ticket?
I loved Norwegian Premium Economy. I had a great experience on their flight from FCO to JFK. I sure hope Norse survives and expands their route, but like you I am not very optimistic about it.
Fingers crossed that they can figure things out. 🤞🏻
Nice video. Unless I missed it, does Norse have inflight wifi available? Thank you.
If Norse flew to more places around the USA, I’d be more interested to try them. Chicago would be great and a far easier connection for a lot of us (myself included) in the Midwest. I think they’d get some more people willing to try them out if they were in more areas.
I know planes are expensive. But it would help get eyes on their product.
Fantastic trip report as always Scott!!😸
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video!! ❤
It looked pretty full down the back!!👏 Norse needs to market their brand more and they haven't had to deal with the Rolls Royce engine issues that Norwegian got bogged down with. Nice flight review 👏
Norse Atlantic is really not bad, I flew with them last year from JFK to Berlin and if they run a special fare, the price is unbeatable for Premium Economy. But I recognized a few differences between our flights, is there a difference between Norse Atlantic and Norse Atlantic UK? I had a redeye-flight with them and haven’t got amenities and a blanket 🧐 Or perhaps they‘ve improved their service 😁
There probably are a lot of differences. I remember Norwegian being broken up into many different subsidiaries (offering different onboard experiences) and it was really confusing to keep track of it all. Sounds like the same situation…
@@sanspotter Yeah that’s possible, if I compare both flights, you got a lot more amenities, I hope they offer them on all flights now 😁
A million thanks for NOT producing a “subtitle every second” brain melter. I want to fly Norse now…..but with a window seat. 😂
I want to travel to Europe so badly and this airline definitely makes it much more financially possible, looking at flights, premium economy costs LESS than basic economy on main airlines like American, United, Delta, etc.
Why the aisle seat, Scott? The flight wasn't full, or was P.E. full? Don't you like the outside entertainment (better than any ICE screen)? Norwegian certainly needs to thrive. Great report, you never fail to entertain and provide a great report.
Liking the Aero shoes. How you find them for travelling?
Just about perfect! Very lightweight and easy to slip on and off if I don’t tie them on so tight.
I'm on a Norse Atlantic airline bound to the Caribbean for my first ever flight
how was it?
The reading material - bathroom break comment is so accurate, cause that is me... LOL
Nice work. Having finished your movie, your ‘only complaint’ was that there were still 4hrs of the flight left. I don’t think any customer service department could change that. Cryogenic suspension perhaps!😅😅
I Have Experience Norse Atlantic Airways.Oslo-London New York In Premium Class.Great Vodeo
Thanks! Yeah, hopefully more people get the chance to try them soon.
Those triangle hash browns are so common in the UK weird! ETA: that airplane food looks grim though. As you may know, some carriers serve PE coach food while others do business.
Yes Norse is doing better with New York than certain other US destinations. From LGW flight schedules have been reduced to certain other US points while BOS and IAD have been axed. Norse's foray to the Caribbean has failed (even for the limited schedules planned for winter 2024/5. Maybe CPT will prove to be a success.
Wow, I didn’t even realize the situation was that dire. I’m shocked that they are struggling to be profitable (because they offer a great onboard product IMHO).
Any experience with the admin is fornthis airline?
Curious if it could support robust new years/christmas travel with holiday cancelations and customic panic😅.
Norse Atlantic basically just took over the old Norwegian 787s and started up with these second hand planes in a new paint scheme. Its a similar thing with WOW Air & PLAY, they just simply took up the old business model under a new name and took notes on where things went wrong before.
The thing is I’m not really sure what they’re doing differently? It seems like the exact same product to me.
Scott, did you have to purchase the headphones or were they included in the premium class fare?
It was included.
Surely if you arrive early enough for any low cost/economy flight - you'll be waiting around, no? There's paid lounges...
But I’d have nothing to complain about if I showed up on time. 😄
Question, the new Personal bag Measurement on website was 5 1/2 wide. Did they have sizers at the airport to make sure everyone complied? Thanks
I didn’t see any. They didn’t seem to be enforcing it at all.
Is wine complementary in PE or chargeable? We are considering Norse for a flight from MIA back to the UK in December. Thanks for the review.
What’s the brand of your tennis shoes? I want to get a pair. I like the red & blue on white.
Those are Xero Prio’s. Very comfortable!
Hey, at least you got your steps in while at Gatwick, lol. I'm becoming a free agent since I probably won't qualify for Asiana Diamond this year, no more Star Aliiance Gold :( . The premium economy seats and experience on Norse-wegian look great. I'd consider it. Though yes, it would be interesting to see Premium Economy full and compare it with what you had. I love that Norse, JetBlue, and others are willing to step into the Trans-Atlantic space, the better, for us not just in price, but hopefully quality too. Thanks for sharing.
You’re very welcome! Yeah, I suspect that one of the reasons why Norse is struggling so much is that most travelers are stuck in one or two major airline alliances. It’s hard to justify flying long-haul and not getting valuable status points on a “real” airline for it. And yes - I’d love to try this again on a full flight just to see if the experience is any different. My economy Norwegian Air flight from London to Los Angeles in 2019 was completely full and it was pretty nice actually.
Well done Norse! Well done Scott!
Well well well…long time to see! 👋🏻 Hope you’ve been…well. 😄
@@sanspotter Well hello! Life has been well taxing (actually works well in uk English) but I must say lately I have been doing quite well indeed. Well see what the future brings, but new Sanspotter videos (and a car review!) are always wellcome 😌
(My own response hurts me too. I am well and truly sorry)
Wow! Your review (and music) made me feel like it was a very relaxing flight for you in spite of it being 7 hours long. Great job again!
Thanks! Yeah, definitely one of the most relaxing flights I’ve had in a while.
Norse DOES sell access to a lounge in Gatwick but NOT in JFK. It is part of their package of add ons.
Good to know! I don’t recall seeing that option when I booked the flight, but it sounds like I missed it.
@@sanspotter It is in the add on menu after you have selected your seat. If memory serves me correct.
Looks like a good plane and I think the Premium Economy wouldn’t be a bad option provide the seat isn’t rock hard.
I wonder if the poor load factor was something to do with the obsession with Heathrow some have?
It was also mid January when I took this flight, which is the low season for leisure travel between London and New York. I’m hoping that things are starting to pick up by now…
Nice to see another new experience
Norwegian Air didn't go bankrupt. They restructured and in the process sold their long haul planes. Since Norwegian recently bought Widerøe, it's now the largest airline in Scandinavia, ahead of SAS!
Indeed, i hear Norse brought the planes for half of their prices.
How good was the recline in economy?
Not horrible. Pretty much the same as what what you would get on other airlines.
720 for a return to jfk in August when BA is the same price?
How much did it cost?
Same hardware as Scoot, way different experience for Norse.
Anyway, I want to know about the fare, as the economy fare of this flight usually takes ~$200.
I paid $900 (only because it was a last minute purchase - my fault) but I’ve seen fares a lot cheaper than that. Now I want to try Scoot!
Were there personal air vents? It's too bad they don't operate out of Newark.
No air vents in the center section unfortunately. But at least they kept the cabin temperature fairly comfortable.
@@sanspotter thanks!
Great review but how were the unlimited booze?
As a frequent flyer, who has flown from most of the UKs major airports. I find your criticism of Gatwick to be ridiculous. It's by far one of the best airports in the UK, and the amenities are fantastic. If you're departing from South terminal, arriving ahead of schedule. Then catching the monorail to the North terminal is advised, the North is far better equipped.
You have no Priority Pass to use one of the three lounges at GTW South?
I let my priority pass membership expire a little while back - but it definitely would’ve come in handy here.
How much $$ was this?
I paid $900 for this (which was only because I purchased last minute). You can typically it get it for a lot cheaper than that.
There are plenty of PAYG lounges at Gatwick. Try the Clubrooms next time; they are under-reviewed.
Good report. You were flying with Norse's UK subsidiary, which will be flying down to Cape Town soon.
I considered popping in for a look, but they didn’t look all that great from the outside. Maybe next time. Hope they do well in Cape Town!
Did you take the blanket?
How picky/strict were they with carry on and personal item?
They didn’t seem all that strict to me. It was basically a free-for-all.
Very informative video. I can tell you now, though, that no British person would have the slightest issue spending three hours at any airport. We have rules to follow, and that breakfast wouldn't be accompanied by orange juice.
I remember the old version. Both flights were the worst I ever had. We went from Oakland to Denmark. We left eight hours late. My seat was broken, and I cut my ankle when boarding. The seat back would not sit upright, so I sat on the edge of my seat the whole flight. The flight attendants were so unpleasant it was shocking. Our return flight was to be the reverse landing in Oakland. They changed us to a flight landing in San Francisco, which, of course, would not let us transfer to our flight home. So we called telling them we wanted what we paid for and then told them we wanted the seats we paid for. They said ok and gave no explanation as to why they switched us to a different airport. When we got to the airport, we were told we had different seats. We were delegated to the center seats, putting us next to some random guy who was ill, and again, I got another broken seat. I tried for months to get some kind of compensation but to no avail. I would not chance it again, so as far as I am concerned, they can go out of business. I am glad you had a fairly decent flight.
Wow, sounds like a very bad experience. I will admit that the flight attendants on this particular flight seemed cold and disinterested as well - but everything else was great. Hopefully you’ll reconsider and give them another chance someday!
Whenever I look at this airline for flights, they are normally only about £40 cheaper than the main carriers so I just pay more for a better economy product.
If I actually saw a flight with their advertised cheaper price then heck yeah I'd go with them, but as I said, I have never seen them have a cheap flight.
It looked amazing to me
It was!
I do like competition in the airline industry. Better fares and hopefully a better experience.
Definitely! 👍🏻
I’ve hopped the pond 10 times in the last 2 years. I’m your standard, always-economy, un-tied-to-an-alliance traveller, and never has Norse been the cheapest option for me. I always see them in results, but Delta/Virgin/JetBlue is always cheaper than Norse for me.
I’m actually surprised that JetBlue would be cheaper. I haven’t been able to find a decent price yet on some of the trips I’ve tried to put together…
What was your airfare and do they have any wifi (paid or free)? I can confirm that flying premier economy via Cathay or Singapore Airlines is much better..tks
No WiFi (or at least it wasn’t available on my flight). I paid $900 for this - which is way high but it was a fairly last-minute purchase. And oh yeah - I would definitely choose Singapore Airlines or Cathay Pacific over this!
Hey Scott. When ya coming back through Detroit?
Maybe sometime this fall. I’m not sure yet…
Good video!