While swinging the right hand down, I've also found it helps to have the left hand high above your head to help the right shoulder and arm get even lower and make a bigger space for the right arm to pass between your body and the attacker's Try it and see if you feel a difference.
I do that alot. I use the added leverage of the coupler moment from using both sides. Think the push pull of the shoulders when punching. I dont just push my shoulder forward I pull the other shoulder back at the same time to add power.
The problem is that the rear naked choke is not being properly applied, you drag the person backward, sometimes with a foot to the back of the knee until they are off their feet and literally hanging on your choke, most lose conscious in under 5 seconds.
@danielfinney6071 I agree. If that rear choke is applied properly, you're gone in about 3 seconds, so you better be well practiced and quick with your response move.
Yup, I would grab the elbow with both hands and pull down like my life depended on it and try to at least tuck my chin. Why? Because I would actually remember to do that. Props to this guy but I cant remember something like this in 3 seconds. Still very low percentage situation.
Yes if that's the case you will see a lot of professional mma fighters escaping instead of sleeping or tapping. When applied correctly it's all most impossible to escape well unless it's like your toddler put you in one but that's the obvious.
This is a very effective move. I have pulled this off in a match before. Just like trying to get the back to the ground when escaping from the bottom. But much easier. Great stuff. Thanks.
I was in a sparring with my friend. He was a wrestle and was about 3 or 4 inches taller than me. Many times, he would simply snap my head down, then arm drag me to get to my back. From there playing around he would put me in the rear naked choke and then stand straight up. But I found that if I could just get one side of my neck free so I didn't feel like I was going to pass out, I could then stay in the fight. Then we just started to play around with the whole idea. The idea of getting your shoulder in between you and your apponent is not a new one. But it one that works.
@@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 lmao, I just wrote the same comment, the answer is about never..... plus I doubt this would have worked had the chocker decided to not let go.
@jerryh2954 The rear naked choke is not being applied correctly or effectively, this is one of those techniques that works great in practice with a willing partner, but ineffective against someone that knows how to fully and properly apply the rear naked choke.
Henry, I'm from the Midwest but I met you at a Rickson Gracie seminar in 2003. You were pretty young then, like 18-20 years old and you seemed pretty wild from your talk in the dressing room. You have become such a great technical instructor and are exceptional in explaining jiu jitsu instructions and concepts. I wish you nothing but the best!
Excellent stuff. (2nd degree Black Belt Krav Maga instructor here)Keep in mind people, he explained it great but you need to be fast and decisive when you do this. You’re not going to have much time before that choke gets you. TRAIN!
Most rear chokes usually happen with you being pulled backward. It seems that with increased space It may make it easier to escape or reverse to a body lock. Pretty cool 😎
But as you're being pulled backward AND down will you be able to spin into him? Unless you can keep your legs under you, you will start falling backward which will increase the pressure on your neck! i believe that twisting to the side and striking his rig cage repeatedly is the better move because not do you escape but you injure your attacker at the same time! Of course, your free hand should be pulling on his arm to reduce pressure on your neck! Obviously, the best thing is not to allow him to put a rear choke on you to start with! For the same reason that you don't run from an attacking predator because the mechanics of the human body don't allow you to effectively fight behind your back!
There is a few escapes to this headlock, and it is one of the most dangerous locks around. this is super simple and great. It also looks quite safe to get out of this lock. Thankyou for this !
2:17 yeah that’s the problem, getting surprised from behind and they lock in it only takes a few second before you pass out . Good lesson anyhow if you have that 2-5 seconds to realize what’s happening and immediately get in the fight before losing consciousness
This is going to work 1 time out of 10. It has to be made before the attacker sets it up the choke because once he can get to a certain point there is no way out. If you notice the attacker has his right hand on his arm. If he pulls it up to his left shoulder for support then there is no way that anyone will pull that scape. The attacker will take your head home.
LOL...another "expert" who has never been in a real fight in his life...lol....and know more about jiu-jitsu then Rickson Gracie (who designed this method and taught it to Henry I believe). Its for a standing attack, with a standing attacker there is never a time that there is "no way out" because the defender can always move in some direction... what a joke. The attacker has to balance on two legs while applying the choke, he is not being supported by the ground and cant use his legs to hold the defender in place. How the hell is he going to move his hand up to his shoulder??? Unless he is what ? 10-12 inches taller than his victim? If he leans too far forward to try to tighten up the choke, then he is vulnerable to being thrown forward since he would be putting his weight against the defender's back.Standing rear chokes are not safe to apply unless you have completely unbalanced the defender and pulled him back first-which is not likely in street attacks. Train more, fantasize less.
You could still easily slip from this into a hip throw (O or harai goshi etc), or almost any type of reap if you wanted to. Love this. Not overly technical so even dummies like me might be able to pull this one off.
i like it. simple. ever since i had a barfight where the guy grabbed me from behind i have been wondering what to do with this pose.. thank you sensei, haiiii
Me and a friend always get in a wresting match but if it's just wrestling I can take him down easily with the help of Kung Fu but he is over-dependent on rear chokes. Thank you, now he stands no chance against me
Wow. Brilliant. As a black belt in Shotokan, we just don't train things like this. Granted, if the opponent front of me, he is in my arena now and I can likely punch, kick or take him down otherwise w severe force, but the whole grappling thing is quite lacking. I think I should strongly consider learning this style.
Well what happens AFTER that? Are you just able to push your attacker to the ground using that arm? Is it fool proof? Does your attacker have no defense against the following moves after that initial one? Inquiring minds want to know!!!
We trained RNC last week. I would do a hip bump to take them out of any stance, there would be no power with a foot stomp/shin kick. Counter we were taught is simply grapevine step turn into opponent and strike (similar to the video, just without the big arm movement
We tried this but it seems to me that if the person applying the choke squeezes hard enough, and does not want his partner to escape, his partner will not escape. Does this only to work on a cooperative partner?
Try stepping big at 45 degrees backwards into horse stance, then in one motion elbow his solar plexus, slap his balls and then swing the arm behind yourself while turning into him. This stops him pulling you backwards off your feet and makes the space to turn, maybe even loosening his grip.
The real trick is not to allow the full choke in. So as soon as you feel the hand or arm come over the shoulder you should be acting. The best way to deffend yourself is to stay out of bad position. Thanks for the comment.
This is a great question and I believe you are correct. If the choker gets it on quickly and cuts your air/blood supply before you can do anything it's game over. The other thing that isn't touched on here is the choker's poor form. Why would you put on a rear naked choke and not pull their opponent off balance? Also, why would the choker allow sufficient space for the opponent to turn in the first place? It is a cardinal rule of all grabbling, no space between partners! I think this is a great technique to 'try' if you are in strife, but like all techniques it isn't a karate kid crane technique, 'if do correctly, no can defence', hahahaha. There are no guarantees that any technique will work, but hey, if you are in a rear naked choke you are having a bad day all round, give it a shot.
I really like that method! An alternative, if you do it real quick, is to raise the left hand under your opponent's nose and flip him backwards. It's a little dangerous, but it makes your opponent let go while you've still got him flipping backwards. It can damage the nose and the neck, or more of your opponent. You're welcome!
WOW...lol I had hand to hand combat classes when I was on the military, I train jiu-jittsu for 5 year and noone had teach me that one...Nice ..well done :) thanks
Neck breaker. Moving your body with sufficient force to rotate yourself towards your opponent - who IS holding you with practiced RNC force (that's why you ask your partner to not do that in this video) - IS putting your cervical vertebrae at significant risk of injury. You are funneling the force/energy necessary to rotate your bodyweight against the friction of someone standing behind and against you all through the bones of your neck. If that person has a decent enough level of skill applying the RNC, your neck is NOT going to rotate with your rotating body. ... Pop! We did this one in class the other day. I recognized it as a practice move. Just to see, I put a little bit of squeeze on the RNC. There was no rotating of my partner's neck after the squeeze happened. I released pressure so there was no risk of injury and we just went through the motions to stay with the flow of the class. Would this move work at the onset of the RNC - before your opponent has locked it in? Sure. But, once the sub is locked in, quickly rotating your body against an immobilized joint of your body is a sure way to injure that joint. Whether that immobilized joint is you knee, your wrist, elbow, shoulder ... or neck.
6'5. I'm going straight for your knees. It's a surprisingly simple target to hit at the beginning and doesn't take that much force to bring you down to a shorter level. Why they'd jump on your back is beyond me
thanks now i wear kneepads haha yea they are the kind of fighters that have zero skill, they hang on people, white knuckle grip on shirts and hair, and do big windmill swings blindly. trash. its just street fight amateur nonsense. thankfully my days of going out with the girl who picked fights is over, i can rest easy and stay away from dummies :) @@boom-bm1kl
There's no doubt this is a very effective move. My only issue is that if any other martial arts style was to present the exact same move, the comments would be flooded with "That would never work in a real fight" or "He should try that in the UFC".
I guess the idea behind lifting and dropping arm is probably to make more momentum and speed for the shoulder to slip as oppose to doing it from neutral body position.
This is way better than Martine kicking me in the back while I am facing the teacher and my back to him. Martin way a 3 year brown belt for a long time so he could have an advantage
So is there a downside to swinging the arm opposite his choking arm since turning that way would turn your head toward the wrist, causing the grip to break? That's the weak point in this whole grip anyway.
Pause at 2:54. By swinging his same side arm as the opponent's choking arm his neck creates space to move. If he went the other way it may still work work, but he'd be throwing his own face into a cross-face with the opponent's left forearm ramming into him. Would be more of a fight.
Very hard to escape this as you either get this put on you by a bouncer if your too intoxicated or by your mates doing a sneak attack ha ha laugh not, or you never get this hold applied to you and if they take you off your feet, your screwed
Truthfully, it is one the best escape methods for that hold that I have seen. Others depend to much on strength, which some may not have.
While swinging the right hand down, I've also found it helps to have the left hand high above your head to help the right shoulder and arm get even lower and make a bigger space for the right arm to pass between your body and the attacker's Try it and see if you feel a difference.
yep I call it airplaning the arms.
I do that alot. I use the added leverage of the coupler moment from using both sides. Think the push pull of the shoulders when punching. I dont just push my shoulder forward I pull the other shoulder back at the same time to add power.
Thanks I'll try it.
what about asking the other guy to put pressure on the choke?
He real is choking me. But i put all my weight on his right arm.
The problem is that the rear naked choke is not being properly applied, you drag the person backward, sometimes with a foot to the back of the knee until they are off their feet and literally hanging on your choke, most lose conscious in under 5 seconds.
@danielfinney6071 I agree. If that rear choke is applied properly, you're gone in about 3 seconds, so you better be well practiced and quick with your response move.
Yup, I would grab the elbow with both hands and pull down like my life depended on it and try to at least tuck my chin. Why? Because I would actually remember to do that. Props to this guy but I cant remember something like this in 3 seconds. Still very low percentage situation.
@move_i_got_this5659 leverage. You can always choke down and leg lock. Game over.
So do you have any ideas for a counter?
Yes if that's the case you will see a lot of professional mma fighters escaping instead of sleeping or tapping. When applied correctly it's all most impossible to escape well unless it's like your toddler put you in one but that's the obvious.
This is a very effective move. I have pulled this off in a match before. Just like trying to get the back to the ground when escaping from the bottom. But much easier. Great stuff. Thanks.
in what kind of match are you getting caught in a standing rnc
I was in a sparring with my friend. He was a wrestle and was about 3 or 4 inches taller than me. Many times, he would simply snap my head down, then arm drag me to get to my back. From there playing around he would put me in the rear naked choke and then stand straight up. But I found that if I could just get one side of my neck free so I didn't feel like I was going to pass out, I could then stay in the fight. Then we just started to play around with the whole idea. The idea of getting your shoulder in between you and your apponent is not a new one. But it one that works.
Ok
Ah so thank sir
@@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511
lmao, I just wrote the same comment,
the answer is about never..... plus I
doubt this would have worked had the
chocker decided to not let go.
I want to congratulate you on how slowly and well you explained the video. I have signed up. Thanks.
This is awesome! I found myself wondering how I would escape this situation and realized I didn’t know how. Now I do!
it works very welll.....🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@andreacattaneo6515 No, it does not.
No you do not.
@@rwhclo Yes it does, you just have been doing it wrong.
@jerryh2954 The rear naked choke is not being applied correctly or effectively, this is one of those techniques that works great in practice with a willing partner, but ineffective against someone that knows how to fully and properly apply the rear naked choke.
Respect to these two men for showing moves that can save lives.
Not really.
@@ozramblue117 Where's your video?
@@mmtxaz ah yes, of course. Unless I have a video my opinions and observations are not valid. My mistake.
Henry, I'm from the Midwest but I met you at a Rickson Gracie seminar in 2003. You were pretty young then, like 18-20 years old and you seemed pretty wild from your talk in the dressing room. You have become such a great technical instructor and are exceptional in explaining jiu jitsu instructions and concepts. I wish you nothing but the best!
Learned this training Kempo, possibilities are endless 😊
Excellent stuff. (2nd degree Black Belt Krav Maga instructor here)Keep in mind people, he explained it great but you need to be fast and decisive when you do this. You’re not going to have much time before that choke gets you. TRAIN!
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Most rear chokes usually happen with you being pulled backward. It seems that with increased space It may make it easier to escape or reverse to a body lock. Pretty cool 😎
But as you're being pulled backward AND down will you be able to spin into him? Unless you can keep your legs under you, you will start falling backward which will increase the pressure on your neck! i believe that twisting to the side and striking his rig cage repeatedly is the better move because not do you escape but you injure your attacker at the same time! Of course, your free hand should be pulling on his arm to reduce pressure on your neck! Obviously, the best thing is not to allow him to put a rear choke on you to start with! For the same reason that you don't run from an attacking predator because the mechanics of the human body don't allow you to effectively fight behind your back!
Amazingly simple, yet effective. Thank you so much.
There is a few escapes to this headlock, and it is one of the most dangerous locks around. this is super simple and great. It also looks quite safe to get out of this lock. Thankyou for this !
2:17 yeah that’s the problem, getting surprised from behind and they lock in it only takes a few second before you pass out . Good lesson anyhow if you have that 2-5 seconds to realize what’s happening and immediately get in the fight before losing consciousness
This is going to work 1 time out of 10. It has to be made before the attacker sets it up the choke because once he can get to a certain point there is no way out. If you notice the attacker has his right hand on his arm. If he pulls it up to his left shoulder for support then there is no way that anyone will pull that scape. The attacker will take your head home.
LOL...another "expert" who has never been in a real fight in his life...lol....and know more about jiu-jitsu then Rickson Gracie (who designed this method and taught it to Henry I believe). Its for a standing attack, with a standing attacker there is never a time that there is "no way out" because the defender can always move in some direction... what a joke. The attacker has to balance on two legs while applying the choke, he is not being supported by the ground and cant use his legs to hold the defender in place. How the hell is he going to move his hand up to his shoulder??? Unless he is what ? 10-12 inches taller than his victim? If he leans too far forward to try to tighten up the choke, then he is vulnerable to being thrown forward since he would be putting his weight against the defender's back.Standing rear chokes are not safe to apply unless you have completely unbalanced the defender and pulled him back first-which is not likely in street attacks. Train more, fantasize less.
Great technique. It works well. I typically use this instead of the first two I learned as a white belt (lift and hip throw, and osoto gari)
You could still easily slip from this into a hip throw (O or harai goshi etc), or almost any type of reap if you wanted to. Love this. Not overly technical so even dummies like me might be able to pull this one off.
I’m dying reading all the comments of people not knowing who Henry is, or who his instructor was/is. 🤣🤣🤣.
i like it. simple. ever since i had a barfight where the guy grabbed me from behind i have been wondering what to do with this pose.. thank you sensei, haiiii
Me and a friend always get in a wresting match but if it's just wrestling I can take him down easily with the help of Kung Fu but he is over-dependent on rear chokes. Thank you, now he stands no chance against me
Excellent! Short and sweet…thank you so much
Looks great, I will try it but the other arm doesn´t do anything ??
Thanks for sharing.
Keep the content coming brother, good stuff.
Wow. Brilliant. As a black belt in Shotokan, we just don't train things like this. Granted, if the opponent front of me, he is in my arena now and I can likely punch, kick or take him down otherwise w severe force, but the whole grappling thing is quite lacking. I think I should strongly consider learning this style.
Once you learn how to transition between different chokes, you'll enjoy BJJ. It's very good to learn with it judo too.
Thank you for this. Very well explained and demonstrated.
Well what happens AFTER that? Are you just able to push your attacker to the ground using that arm? Is it fool proof? Does your attacker have no defense against the following moves after that initial one? Inquiring minds want to know!!!
It always depends from the strength and stamina of the two fighters.
Hard backward shin kick of foot stomp, nuff said.
We trained RNC last week. I would do a hip bump to take them out of any stance, there would be no power with a foot stomp/shin kick.
Counter we were taught is simply grapevine step turn into opponent and strike (similar to the video, just without the big arm movement
nice. thanx
We tried this but it seems to me that if the person applying the choke squeezes hard enough, and does not want his partner to escape, his partner will not escape. Does this only to work on a cooperative partner?
Try stepping big at 45 degrees backwards into horse stance, then in one motion elbow his solar plexus, slap his balls and then swing the arm behind yourself while turning into him. This stops him pulling you backwards off your feet and makes the space to turn, maybe even loosening his grip.
The real trick is not to allow the full choke in. So as soon as you feel the hand or arm come over the shoulder you should be acting. The best way to deffend yourself is to stay out of bad position. Thanks for the comment.
Good question?? Thats what i was wondering.
This is a great question and I believe you are correct. If the choker gets it on quickly and cuts your air/blood supply before you can do anything it's game over. The other thing that isn't touched on here is the choker's poor form. Why would you put on a rear naked choke and not pull their opponent off balance? Also, why would the choker allow sufficient space for the opponent to turn in the first place? It is a cardinal rule of all grabbling, no space between partners! I think this is a great technique to 'try' if you are in strife, but like all techniques it isn't a karate kid crane technique, 'if do correctly, no can defence', hahahaha. There are no guarantees that any technique will work, but hey, if you are in a rear naked choke you are having a bad day all round, give it a shot.
Sorry , but it only works if you do it BEFORE he gets the choke locked in.
I really like that method!
An alternative, if you do it real quick, is to raise the left hand under your opponent's nose and flip him backwards. It's a little dangerous, but it makes your opponent let go while you've still got him flipping backwards. It can damage the nose and the neck, or more of your opponent. You're welcome!
I learned that one too. Except that I grab the dudes balls with the other hand.
WOW...lol I had hand to hand combat classes when I was on the military, I train jiu-jittsu for 5 year and noone had teach me that one...Nice ..well done :) thanks
Neck breaker. Moving your body with sufficient force to rotate yourself towards your opponent - who IS holding you with practiced RNC force (that's why you ask your partner to not do that in this video) - IS putting your cervical vertebrae at significant risk of injury. You are funneling the force/energy necessary to rotate your bodyweight against the friction of someone standing behind and against you all through the bones of your neck. If that person has a decent enough level of skill applying the RNC, your neck is NOT going to rotate with your rotating body. ... Pop!
We did this one in class the other day. I recognized it as a practice move. Just to see, I put a little bit of squeeze on the RNC. There was no rotating of my partner's neck after the squeeze happened. I released pressure so there was no risk of injury and we just went through the motions to stay with the flow of the class.
Would this move work at the onset of the RNC - before your opponent has locked it in? Sure. But, once the sub is locked in, quickly rotating your body against an immobilized joint of your body is a sure way to injure that joint. Whether that immobilized joint is you knee, your wrist, elbow, shoulder ... or neck.
Any trick help at all for a little kid vs big strong Manattackig with fast hyped savagery?
If the assailant has a tight choke, this technique will absolutely never work
Do it USMC style. Reach back and grab a handful of nuts. Works every time.
I like the technique.
i am 6'5 and i never get attacked from a punch to the face, people in a bar always jump on my back and try to grab my head or neck..
6'5. I'm going straight for your knees. It's a surprisingly simple target to hit at the beginning and doesn't take that much force to bring you down to a shorter level. Why they'd jump on your back is beyond me
thanks now i wear kneepads haha
yea they are the kind of fighters that have zero skill, they hang on people, white knuckle grip on shirts and hair, and do big windmill swings blindly. trash. its just street fight amateur nonsense. thankfully my days of going out with the girl who picked fights is over, i can rest easy and stay away from dummies :) @@boom-bm1kl
Awesome escape technique 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Give a quick twisting pinch to the inner thigh or bicep and they will let go fast as ⚡ lightning 😅
I believe that Master Ken would call for the "thrust of freedom" in this instance.
There's no doubt this is a very effective move. My only issue is that if any other martial arts style was to present the exact same move, the comments would be flooded with "That would never work in a real fight" or "He should try that in the UFC".
This is leaning body punch in kung fu and I believe you don’t have to lift the arm but drop your shoulder though this may be a taichi quality.
I guess the idea behind lifting and dropping arm is probably to make more momentum and speed for the shoulder to slip as oppose to doing it from neutral body position.
Henry always delivers the goods.
Out of all the videos on here the only one that works
I find myself asking, "How come I never thought of doing that" LOL
You just gave me a great idea for an application of a similar move in the Koryo form of Taekwondo -- thanks for sharing this!
The closer England goes down the toilet U-bend the more we need these videos 👌
Very good escape! Finish with Ogoshi. Your escape puts you in perfect position to throw with the big hip throw.😊
Ingenious as is usual to professor Akins .
Hi, thanks for this video. Great stuff. Can you do a demo where the attacker is taller?
This is way better than Martine kicking me in the back while I am facing the teacher and my back to him. Martin way a 3 year brown belt for a long time so he could have an advantage
Holy crap this is exactly what I needed! Thank you so much!!!
Thanks Henry!
Totally perfect and awesome! 👍👍
So nice, simple and effective.
Thanks
Back hand his dusters ,fights over
It works every time in slow motion when no pressure is being applied.😂😂😂😂😂
Excellent Video/Advise to stay safe.
So is there a downside to swinging the arm opposite his choking arm since turning that way would turn your head toward the wrist, causing the grip to break? That's the weak point in this whole grip anyway.
Pause at 2:54. By swinging his same side arm as the opponent's choking arm his neck creates space to move. If he went the other way it may still work work, but he'd be throwing his own face into a cross-face with the opponent's left forearm ramming into him. Would be more of a fight.
Going that direction can put you into a bulldog choke and those are nasty.
You are amazing man !
Great tip and demonstration, thank you.
nice detail. thanks
Sorry this is just my feedback, hard to escape if the grip is strong with a crank pressure running up thr neck, . How to do this?
Could you please demonstrate how to avoid a body slam?
Brilliant. Thank you. Do you have an escape for an arm triangle?
standing or on the ground?
Thank you for posting this
Beats carving the cat off of me. I may not always have a knife on me. Good information. Thank you.
You should review a six second marine Corps sentry removal technique.
I would love to demonstrate what I learned in the Corps.
This is really cool!
Do it sneaky though cause if he sees it coming, he can block it with his right knee
Man... that was AMAZING.... Thank you Sir.
Thank You 👍💪
Awesome technique - thank you
I'm interested in this sort of self defense based bjj instead of sport bjj. It's so brilliant.
That was/is an excellent demonstration/teaching.
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Besides stomping on the attackers foot..... what is a good manover to get out of a full nelson hold?
Is there an escape when this choke is done on the ground ?
Great technique
Great info on this technique....
Thank you
Thanks
Beautiful
This move is covered in Gracie University women empowered program. It's called the "shoulder slip".
This is supposed to be for before they get it locked in, yes?
Thank you for a great video!
Why cant mma fighters escape?
Mma when they take the back most feet dont touch the ground. When standing defender get tired depends each situation
Don’t let yourself get into that situation to begin with. Once he’s there, if he’s not a beginner, you’re screwed.
If in a self-defense type of situation against a dude, giving their sackaroo a smash will increase the chances of escape.
Excellent to the point content.
I really wish you would visit Thailand and do a proper training camp over here for a few days so I could learn all that awesome stuff!
I like it, maybe follow with a uranage, or osoto
Great video. Thank you.
A well done mataleao choke gives you 5 seconds after that you are sleeping, those defense thecnics are un unreal.
You have 3-5 seconds to do this.
Wow that's magic! Thanks! 😁😈
How do you escape when you are on the ground?
How can you do this on the ground, when he's got double hooks in?
thanks for the good information.
Awesome thanks
Very hard to escape this as you either get this put on you by a bouncer if your too intoxicated or by your mates doing a sneak attack ha ha laugh not, or you never get this hold applied to you and if they take you off your feet, your screwed
Brilliant move!!
Great. Thanks for sharing.
Fantastic, great explanation 🥋👍