Triumph Speed 400 vs KTM 390 Duke comparison | Is the Triumph quicker? | Autocar India
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- The newly launched Triumph Speed 400 may have a lovely neo-retro design, but in some ways, it actually feels quite a lot like the KTM 390 Duke. Zaran Mody brings the two together and tests them back to back to see how deep the similarities run.
#Triumphspeed400 #KTM390Duke #autocarindia
Cameraperson: Sharad Veghada & Harshad Panchal
Editor: Siddhesh Bhogale
0:00 - Introduction
0:55 - KTM engine
1:43 - Triumph engine
2:19 - Acceleration comparison
2:39 - In-gear acceleration
3:11 - Fuel economy
3:23 - KTM seating comfort
3:53 - Triumph seating comfort
4:15 - Ride and handling
5:20 - Pricing and features
6:03 - Verdict
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Special thanks to Yohaan Billimoria for lending us his KTM 390 Duke
Hey @autocarindia1, what do you think of Speed 400 performance on wet roads? I have this fear of slipping on wet roads even though the bike is good. Can you tell at what speeds would the speed 400 be comfortable to bend and turn along the corners?
❤yes
We need comparison of Harley 440 X and speed 400
Great review by Zaran Mody. Very soothing relaxed voice and explained everything we needed to hear! Keep it up! 👍🏽👍🏽
The real winner is Bajaj
Which bajaj, Duke390 or speed 400😂😂
@@automadnesDominar 400 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣bajaj
@@Qrt99🤣
Bajaj be like "paisa hi paisa hoga " 🤣
Hats off to the riders in this video for riding in wet conditions, thats looks scary!!
Thrilled me a lot 🔥🔥🔥
Good skills... Also watch biker Niladri and Sagar sheldkar.
ABS bike not raw bike to get scared
All props to the motorcycle for offering the confidence.
I have also drove Apache 160 in even bad road conditions it was scary
Man, I just love the 390's design. Still looks so sharp.
Get it while you can, the new one coming next year looks poop imo
Yep. Doesn't need any updates, but they're giving it one anyway
It's the same design as Duke 125 😛.. Generic & boring now..
@@pravinmurthy ok cd100
i wish the KTM had better quality...better dependability.
Also, very noisy engine.
My heart says : duke 390
My brain says : speed 400
My wallet says : splendor
Reality says : take a cycle 😂
Sells😂
Where ?
My heart says Hero 400x.
My Wallet says Splendor 😭👍
Nobody's heart or brain says: Harley 440 😂 That thing is an absolute dog compared to the Triumph.
Hi from Scotland.
And my doctor says take walk.
How much worse is this against a true Honda CB500F?
Meanwhile, Bajaj laughing all the way to the bank.😂
Ha ha ha ha
Straight to the bank
Yep they are to make money not bike
@@moditoppokhan5443 still world class product compared to those chowmin garbage brands.
@@moditoppokhan5443no company is a charity group.
@@currycel470 ya but some company passionately craft there bikes from zero to hero ... Like Ducati Yamaha 🔥🔥🔥
The idea (or maybe solely circumstances) of ride- testing under heavy rain is brillant; It doesn't comes out with beautiful pictures but you really understand how the bikes shall perform during the next monsoon.
The 390 is a living legend. The Speed 400 sure is an excellent product though.
I really like it. No doubt. Overall, it just depends on what the rider wants. Gear up. Ride safe.
Both the 390 and the Speed are great options. Poles apart though.
Indeed brother . 390 is always a bike which outshines even it's new contenders from last 8 years. How many bikes under 400cc are launched like the G310R , Apache 310RR , BMW 310RR , Dominar 400 and now this Baby Truimph Speed 400 . KTM still kills the competition with their 390 .
Yeah but speed 400 is revolutionary!
Booked the speed 400, i have ridden the 390 and I don't like them at all😅
@@Ahmed-jv7oc That's your subjective matter of choice whether you like it or not but 390 is still the Single Cylinder madness on planet Earth right now
@@redhooded_lonewolf It's a difficult bike to ride for me .. the power is mad though
Another point in favor of Triumph is brand image.
Triumph sure has a good brand image for refined bikes and , but don't forget that KTM outside india also have a very good brand image as they also participate in the GP races, but unfortunately chapris have killed KTM image here in india, and i'm afraid if this will happen to triumph also.
@@striple765 this is so true
@@striple765thay are kids bro they don't know about KTM history and legacy
@@striple765don't worry, chapris won't go anywhere near a triumph 😂
@@jasonhansstastham They need to bring another bike for chapris , ri15 , Karizma
Really i was looking for that comparison and you guys made it possible 🙌🏻
The most awaited comparison. As usual very good and crisp review . I am eagerly waiting for my Triumph
When will the deliveries start?
@@someshrane61012nd week of August for first 10k bookings
Another thing is, Chapris haven't gotten their hands on Triump yet
They will once the sales starts 😂
@@AswathReacherHopefully not, this isn't that appealing for chapris tho lol they'd rather get a duke 125😭
What do you mean by Chappri ? Someone who rides rash without any riding gear? If Yes, then all of us have done that atleast once in our lifetime
@@josonnalpat8448yeah we have ride like that but not like multi color hair combined with rang birangi hair cut
@@khattimitthilife What's wrong with colored hair. Just because me and you does not like colored hair, anyone living in this country has the right to style them the way they want. I've seen people on expensive Harley wearing sandals and riding careless. Though not very common as such expensive bikes are rare. We should be calling them Chapris as well.
Excellent journalistic review and made it very clear about the difference in the various bike dynamics and how that translates to riding.
Great job👍
Agree. An excellent review for several reasons. Definitely refreshing.
What about vibration at 110KMPH?? Is the speed comfortable in those speed?
Based on your review on the way these motors react in terms of 0-100 times and in gear acceleration as well as mileage. It feels like Triumph is similar to KTM but with diesel like performance. Both are amazing imo.
Great review guys, thank you. The version I really hope they make is the XE version, say 220 to 250mm suspension travel and wire wheels. That would be a great mini Adventure and Trail bike, it would surpass the Enfield 400 Himalayan and be a better bike than the 650 Interceptor Scrambler that the whole world has been waiting for but Enfield has never offered.
Re: Tyres play a key role, as does lighting at night, when it comes to inspiring confidence on performance bikes. What's your take on these two components of both these bikes?
Thanks! I see no point in spend more than a lack on duke 390 now. What a game changer.
Most points covered and wonderfully explained. Live this comparo
Why videos are only in 1080p , try to upgrade to 4k videos
Hey Autocar, for the FE tests, how much did the rider weigh??
Thanks for the crisp review! Please let us know the performance of the speed 400 headlights...
Damm most awaited comparison
Dangerous! Testing in the Rains !!!!
waah was waiting for this comparo
Will there be servicing available for triumph bike in bajaj service centre?
Waiting for the scram 400 x vs the adv 390 x
How is the headlight throw?
In carwow terms,
Duke won the drag race while speed won the rolling race.
@autocarindia , pls take both of them to track day ASAP
Hai autocar India .... From Tamil Nadu
Sir, are the vibrations manageable. At crusing speed of 100 kmph how are the vibrations.
Listen.. ktm 250s and 390s are not for everybody. It is very much for the polished riders and hard-core motorcyclists. It has more character, more connection with the rider, engages you fully..
Correct. Both the 250 and 390 easily outperform everything in their segments. Waiting for a 250cc shootout by Autocar India.
Unfortunately, ride by wire robbed the 390 Duke of a lot of the character.
And also for chapris
@@spamansh1710 Had the same thought when I blindly followed it's bad brand image without ever riding one, but then I rode it and completely transformed how I feel about ktm. I suggest u to own one or atleast ride one to see how wonderful those machines are in what they been built for. It's always the squid riders, never the bike.
For chapris
Damn...but everything aside what about the showroom and service center network of triumph? Nearest triumph showroom is 25 kms away from my home ...But so was the case with Honda Bigwing but now after 2 years there are 2 bigwings within 8 to 10kms radius from my house...will it be the same with triumph?
Yesterday evening I talked about this both bikes and my RUclips feed has this video already.
It's funny when ever i watch autocar It's always on a bad weather. Like where do you film this videos Cherrapunji?
It's monsoon season. What are you? Rajasthani?
Well made review! (this high quality film doesn't need that crappy music)
Thank you!
Superb comparo..
Which one has more ground clearance ?
I want to buy speed 400 or x440 or upcoming good bike under 500cc in couple of years.. but these bikes hardly give 25kmpl so i thought of buy another bike for mileage and long lasting. i will use this bike for daily needs and to and fro to the office. And it should give best mileage. I thought of having honda sp125 .can you give me good suggestion which second bike is best for me ..ots better if it have good looks
Great review bhai.
Please update this video with the gen 3 duke 390
my question is does running at high rpm which ktm loves degrade piston rings quickly?
finally a new auto journalist who is polished. great work
How do the vibrations on both bike compare?
2:33 Aah… Shutter change…
Where did you get that sweet tail tidy
Please do a similar comparison of triumph with RE gt 650 /interceptor
Great review. Cheers from Australia
i have been looking for those thigh grips on duke 390 , please someone link me or tell me where to get those god damn thigh pads Oof
Booked my 400x, don't know when they will bring it to Market can't wait to get my hands on it.
Autocar india is my new go through youtube channel.when it comes to motorcycle review in Asian market
Do a comparison between Triumph Speed 400 vs honda cb300r
The video i was waiting for someone to do its finally here thank you Autocar India
It's good to have triumph in life in such low price 💓😎🤟 .
can you please please compare speed 400 vs dominar 400
can you please do a vedio between Triumph scrambler400x vs ktm 390 Adventure
Great comparison! Next, you need to compare the Trumpet to the Harley and Hunter😂😂😂. I wonder who will win😂😂😂.
Love from Scotland
bhai ab to 4k le aao. laptop mein bahut kam quality dikhta hai.
Quali sono le rispettive velocità massima??
Compare it with RE twins
Make review between dominar 400 vs truimph 400
Autocar editors please adjust audio levels better . 🙏 ..
Please do a Honda CB300R vs Triumph Speed 400 review. I find the standing start and roll-ons of both bikes are similar.
You are partially correct.. The straight line acceleration is similar.. But CB300R is no where near the Speed400 in terms of roll on/ in gear acceleration.. I'm talking after checking the Autocar test figures of both bikes..
Also performance is not the only factor to compare 2 bikes..
Speed400 will stand one step higher overall always..
@@pravinmurthy Agree but want a comparison. As that bike rarely compared by mainstream media.
when the brand new KTM390 coming soon?? can you share more details ?
hi guys,
what raingear are you using? just a regular question from a regular guy from Mumbai.
Get rain clothes from decathlon regular answer from a regular guy answering you after getting drenched in rain
waiting for scrambler 400
The engine character you have mentioned about this triumph compared to 390 exactly applies to Yamaha fz250 compared with other 250 singles.
Bingo.. Correct..
Good that they have differentiated the two adequately. Test ride will clarify a lot of doubts in the mind.
Waiting for new ktm 390
Which would you recommend as a better touring machine? Let's say something to ride at 110-120 kmph all day long and munch miles on the Highway?
Honda 500.
RE blind fanboys(uncles) hated comments in this video
I was waiting for this video ! thanks autocar 👍
I had the raw power ktm 390 of 2014 with no features of 2024 version that KTM can still beat the latest version. It was the experience of an RX 135 on it for me the latest version is like riding a pulsar 220 cc feel the original thrust is missing in the latest duke 390 but I felt the same old dude 390 power on triumph speed 400 so am getting a triumph speed 400 soon nice review bro
What about stability and refinement at high RPM , I see a lot of reviewers are complaining about a lot of buzziness even at 6500 RPM so how usable is the high power band ? Can you please compare that with duke ?
I'm planning to choose one, any thoughts would be helpful.
Ride them
Duke 390 is a gift that keeps on giving, you will not be disappointed!
Don't believe any reviewers. Take a test ride yourself. Don't buy any bike you haven't personally tested out
@@killingmachinelp many models arent available for testing in dealers
Take a test ride. These videos are mostly sponsored
I ride a Duke 390 everyday to work, about 42kms. Mumbai traffic sucks to be in on a 390. I wonder if this is what i want everyday.
Honest
Yep. I own the d390 and i know exactly what you are thinking and yes, it fits this description very well. But sadly, you have been exposed to the manic 373cc mill. You will find the speed 400 very inadequate for other stuff.
So the Triumph makes more sense to use on daily basis and is kind of allrounder on the other hand KTM is for Speed enthusiasts
Speed400 Vs INT650 too! Yes agreed completely different price range and cubic capacity but on an over all feel!
Ohh also vs the G310R! So many comparos! 😄 Y'all should make like a mega comparo with every bike with the same value and feel!
By the looks of these two great Bikes...it seems like... 🤔
TRIUMPH Speed 400
- A Gentleman bike.
Whereas
KTM Duke 390
- A Agressive warrior bike.
if in gear acceleration is stronger and quicker in speed 400 than ktm, then ktm power surge makes how much difference? is it noticeable ? speed 400 should be better in that sense. Also add a race dynamics fuelx/ecu mod to speed 400 and ur in much better position at a much lower price ...u get best of both worlds...what do u think
Compare with bajaj Dominar please!🙏🙏🙏🙏
never thought lethargic and duke390 would be in the same sentence ever even while talking particularly about low revs😅
Oh its bad. I hated the low end torque. A guy I know sold off this Duke 390 for a Bullet 350 as he lives in the hills and hated the lack of low end torque of his KTM 390.
@@brendonfernandes2877 down shifting doesn't hurt my leg!
@@pramitroy11 Having a very narrow power band can get boring very quickly which is why RE bikes outsell KTM bikes by 100 to 1.
@@brendonfernandes2877 narrow powerband? Are you kidding? I can feel the power till 9000rpm. This is very unlike RE!
@@pramitroy11 Yes very narrow power band. It's a frustrating bike to ride coming from a Z650 which has a wide power band. The Duke is fun to ride if you are ripping it but riding slowly in traffic it's a pain as if you forget to shift the engine starts knocking or it stalls completely.
Ktm 390 is the undisputed king in the segment hands down.
Nah mate… as much as it hurts you.
@@Eltonoconnor it doesn't hurt me mate!
Those in gear acceleration look faster but what about the speedo error on triumph. It's like 10 to 15 kmph less than indicated by the speedometer.
Have they started test rides for actual customers?
Not yet
Bajaj becoming bbk electronics of bikes
Ktm duke 390 the winner ❤❤❤😍
Which has less vibration
Do a comparison between Harley Davidson X440 and Triumph Speed 400...everyone is expecting that video from your channel.
Triumph Speed 400 comes with new brand value with 20-25k less onroad price than duke 390 ex-showroom price.
Which one will be better to cruise at 120?
Both
The duke will do it with absolute ease. Even 130kph is stress free. S400, from all the data gathered , will feel stressed anywhere above 110kph
Bgm was too loud, pls reduce a bit next time
Great comparision, but I'm happy with my BS3 RE C350, I always love that low end punchy torque especially in bengaluru city riding condition...
When I checked Autocar test figures.. I found that Triumph Speed 400 has better roll on/ in gear acceleration than Ninja 400 too!!..
So the Speed400 smokes Duke390, Ninja400 & Interceptor too in the mid range/ roll ons/ in gear acceleration..
As an Interceptor 650 owner that's one of the major things I really enjoy... The effortless in-gear acceleration and being able to be lazy with gearshifts.... These numbers from Triumph are really impressive.
Strange since interceptor has much more torque.
@@the.communistI think it's got to do with ultra short gearing of the Triumph 400..
@@TheTwinPostcompletely agree 👍
This is a nice comparison, but would like to see harley vs triumph
What's the point in comparing them..
Apple to orange comparison
Ktm looks muscular. Wish triumph had it too.
*I have been using low cc bikes only. I like to upgrade to higher cc bikes.* How's triumph 400? I don't like to ride in high speed I always ride on an average 50-70 speed.
Will it be difficult to maintain 400 cc bike? I mean due to high power is it difficult to control?
Get Bajaj Avenger
Triumph 400 is not engine to ride between 50-70kmph.. Instead you can buy any other much simpler 150+cc bike in the market & most bikes can do these speeds effortlessly..
I wish 390 was priced at 2.60lkh
I just love this comparison. Bringing them together itself is very mesmerizing
Just hit the like button first then watch the video ❤😊
Just cz u said it, I have liked the video and now watching it..😅
If you really wanna enjoy twisties, get a faired bike. I went from a 250 duke to a RC 390 and I cant express how much I love to lean over on this bike in hilly areas, knee scraping has become quite common for me and with the mods I have done to my RC, it pulls quite well down low, to the point even guys with bigger capacity naked bikes cant keep up. Sure you can do stunts and all with a duke which you cant on the speed 400, if you really want to ride fast on twisties, get a faired bike dude
I would love to see how the Triumph Speed 400 would perform against RE Twins!!!
Triumph will win lol the power to weight ratio is actually higher in the triumph
@@ashmix2222 don't be delusional, it's the legendary 650 twins we are talking about.
@@ashmix2222😂😂r u gone made just see the torq difference and bhp difference triump can't event touch twins
@@tejasparakh7Good engine with lousy rider triangle, legandary for who .
@@mukesh_gt650 you clearly dont know how the Power to weight ration works do you?? 😂
The Dodge challenger demon has 800+ Hp but the Porsche 911 turbo beats it every single time 1/4mile unless it is a proper prepped dragstrip.
The power to weight and the way power is put onto the road matters a lot.