How to Understand your baitrunner reel.
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2017
- A short video on all the features and how to understand your reel! This video will show you how to use your reel and its Baitrunner along with the rear clutch/drag and anti reverse. Baitrunner reel will not have a front clutch, its one or the other front clutch or a Baitrunner.
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I spooled it with 8 LB test mono for lighter lures, gave it some practice casts and found that it did cast well ruclips.net/user/postUgkxSlytCJqozTF7EbdP4LWP-HUXf9WRDJ0e , except that the anti-backlash setting had to be turned up almost all of the way to keep the "overcasts' ' down. I disassembled it, and found that if I potted some "shim washers" behind that anti-backlash magnet assembly, it got the magnets closer to the spool without rubbing, and I could get better control with about a 6 to 7 out out 10-Max setting. I also noticed that the handle shaft had some internal end play, maybe only 2 or 3 thousands of an inch, but it's still noticeable. If the anti-backlash and shaft tolerances were "tightened up" this would be a fantastic value. I've only used it for 4 days of fishing in a month's time, but I plan on keeping it.
*Great product. **enjoyable.fishing** recommend I have never used a baitcaster before and did a lot of research before buying this one. I bought it with the Torrent casting rod as well and it works very nice.*
I have no idea why people would dislike this video, great for new users of the baitrunner, nice work!
Because some people are just dicks..
Fantastic video, very impressed, can you recommend and post a link for a Shakespeare beta real up to £40 with 2 spools plz
As old as i am it's only now that I'm starting to learn how to fish properly lol
So I'll like to say thank you to you and all others that take time to do video to help other much appreciate
I’m 65 and just started fishing . Really useful video for a beginner like me. Well done
The "0.36mm" is NOT the depth of the spool. That is the diameter of the line. Most rods will list by both the strength (___ lb. test) and by the diameter. The reason they do this is because so many people now use braided line or fluorocarbon line, which are both much smaller in diameter than the monofilament of the same strength.
Great stuff, really informative. Been fishing about 8 years, always use a baitrunner as a multi-purpose reel, surface and bottom, ledger or float, even freeline for perch with it. Great post - I learned a lot. Nice one
Appreciate that, I’ve just bought a baitrunner type reel without instructions so didn’t know what the anti-reverse and baitrunner switches did. 👍
This video was fantastic! I just got a Shimano 4500B at a garage sale and am excited to try it now that I know how it works!
👍👍 Nice Vlog, I loved the way you said you helped out the other Lad 😉
There’s not enough of that in Fishing these days well Done 👍
Always got to help everyone mate we are all learning
Absolutely fantastic video , thank you so much , I’ve learned more in 10 minutes than in weeks . Finally I’m one step closer to taking my son fishing properly something my father never did for me thank you 👍🏻
No problem Tom! Have a good one
Thank you sir 🙏 for sharing your knowledge about bait runner reel,now I know how to use my bait runner reel 🙂 done watching from 🇵🇭 Phillipines.
Thanks David few years old now but this video is still useful.Recently brought a 10000 Shimano & wondered why its got two knobs on the back rather than one. Only just started fishing aged 72 & didnt realise how complicated it is. You've a new sub Ted.
Very informative. Nice and clear. Thanks!
Nicely explained and i now understand what i should do with a baitrunner.Great tutorial !
mick thanks mate
1. Great vid..very informative
2. Great to hear you helped out a newbie...we all started out knowing bugger all.
👍
just bought this reel this was really helpful as i was still using an old silstar fx40 and it was just not up to bigger fish
Fantastic video, I wasn’t to sure how to use baitrunner reels, but now I know 👍👍👍
Best video i (a beginner) have found on youtube.
Said it how it is basic short and sweet! Cheers carp man, very helpful
Glad I found this video. My baitrunner reel makes a clicking noise really loud when my lead etc is being reeled in. Will have a look at next time I go fishing and adjust back drag maybe
Just the info I needed! Thanks
Just bought a omni 60 fs 3 bearing, vid taught me all I need to know cannot wait to use it now. My old Fav reel of 40 years finally died ;)
Good reel mate
to the point accurate and concise. Anti reverse to avoid getting your knuckles busted as well. super good video here a angler with logical thought progress and obvious experience. buy ya a pint anytime
jim bo cheers m8 I need a pint lol
That was a great video, I bought a carp reel and was having a nightmare working it out as stupidly didn't ask the shop owner about them, brilliant work!!!!
Thank you
Great information mate, thank you! 👍
I've been using the beta 60 fs for nearly 4 years (almost every other day😁). Should say it's one hell of a reel. Changed the bearing and replaced those nylon bearing look alikes with ss components. Now it still feels like a Cadillac. Great reel for the money.
Great reel mate
For a newbie this actually helped a lot! Great video
Very clearly explained. Thanks a lot!
Thanks very much mate
Superb video very well explained !
Thank you v much, your input helped me sort something that seemed complex but was shown by you to be pretty basic 😄....
Great info, to the point with no gibberish. Love it. Thanks
Just Cause thanks m8
Very good; simple and easy to follow.
Alan Flowers thank you mate
Great video Man💯👊🏼
Really helpful video mate nice one
Well done mate good info
Thanks for the explanation mate 🙂
Thanks, really helpful.
Thanks for the vid mate!
Brilliant video
Just bought this reel so this was very helpful
Great vid 👍 usefull straight forward info, thanks
brilliant, just ordered 2. I got a decent carp outfit from NGT, and yes the reels are pants, buying 2 of these to replace the NGT reels is my first step. caught some nice carp on the rods they supply are ok but the reels are really quite nasty. Pleased with the rest of the carp set up by NGT. I have had the carp setup over a year now and have replaced a lot of the tackle with Korda items but most of the NGT stuff got me going as this is my first step into carp fishing so didn't want to spend to much until i wanted to take it more seriously, which i have.
menacegtr you will notice the difference m8!
Very helpful, thanks
Thank you very mutch, that was super helpful. Regards
GREAT VIDEO ,makes sence of the whole thing .cheers,bit more confidence in myself as not to look stupid now.thanks
anthony whitehouse thanks mate anything to help!
Well explained I think personally mate , nice one 👍🏻
Jordan Jones cheers m8
Lifesaver mate! New to this and had no idea about the anti-reverse. Wondered why the spool was spinning when line coming off the clutch 😂
Found this really helpful Thankyou
extremely helpful...cheers bro.
Devon Richards no problem cheers m8
really helpful many thanks
No problem mate
a big help. thank you
Thank you very much for this informative video. New to the sport thanks to lockdown, shall we say a mature student👍
Very welcome mate
Great tutorial brother 👍 thanks .
Brilliant video m8 🎣
Thanks man really helped 👍
Well explained..!!
Great video, unless your told how are you supposed to know! I think often people don't like to ask to much, as they don't want to look like they don't know what they are doing. Keep making content on the basics, also what about talking baits, making your own, when to use, and where to fishing. Thanks I look forward to more content, you have my Sub and like!
Thanks very much for the video it was a great help for someone new to the sport, great video new sub
No problem mate good luck on the bank!!!
@@davidrhodes-varley441 seems very basic but could you try do a decent knot and rig tying video
@@angus1682 yes mate I will there are a couple rig ones on my channel mate also
@@davidrhodes-varley441 yeah should really help me and other newbs, also what line do you think I should use on a NGC dynamic carp 70 and a daiwa carp 3 rod 2.75lb test
@@angus1682 do you mean the NGT one mate. Also what does the spool say on spool dimensions say. You can't go wrong with fox xocet line 16lb. Depends on ya reels and spools tho.
very useful thank you
Thank you Marcia x
The only video I found to show how to use the baitrunner feature.
no problem
my pitbull82 hi m8 yes they are a good make m8. decent reels not to expensive will last if you look after them!
The bait runner feature is used on the bank or any fishing being done hands off..... it is set loose really loose, so that way it can’t be pulled into the water ONLY. Then you grab the rod and start reeling it turns off and engages the top drag. The top drag is used for the “fight”.
Very good video ell explained
stephen buckham thank you
Tnx for the info - still a beginner in carp fishing so this video helped a lot. Keep up the good work and maybe do a couple of diy videos(like the one for the rig) or more videos like this where you present equipment. Greetings from Serbia ;)
Thanks mate tight lines bud!!!
very helpful video cheers mate
Dan Williams thanks m8
Dan Williams cheers m8 a better one will be uploaded soon and a lot more vids
Great informative video mate. Other than the "max line" information being wrong which someone else picked up and the fact.you didn't mention the front clutch this is an excellent video. Wasn't what I searched for, but glad I found it.
Cheers mate yes max line is wrong but it's self explanatory mate. Those reels do not have a front clutch mate only baitrunner only you can buy them with both but it's rare, it's eaither one or the other mate. Thanks mate
I was thinking the same thing about the front clutch. This is as important as the back clutch
@@tonygalloway3704 Hi mate. Shakespeare baitrunners do not have a front clutch.
@@davidrhodes-varley441 hi mate. Yes they do I have a Shakespeare bait runner reel and the clutch is on the front. I got it about 3 weeks ago. I couldn't figure out why the clutch at the back wasn't working then I realised it was at the front and the bait runner clutch was at the back. 👍
@@davidrhodes-varley441 www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00AFWF2RE?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image
Thank you 👍
Sorry to correct you but 14 isn't the max but it says you can put 250 yds of 14 lb test line OR .036mm line....that is 1/3 of 1 mm and is not the depth of the spool. Those numbers simply tell you how much of certain size diameter or pound test it will hold. Otherwise a great video. Thanks
Thank you Mark, we are all learning everyday,
1/30 of 1 mm
I have a question is the Shimano big baitrunner 14000 a good reel for huge fish and how is the baitrunner
Nothing wrong with NGT
can you do a video on how to set up bite alarms and drag and bobbins etc please? thanks
Slightly confused, I’ve just bought a Shimano 6000 and it has two settings, one for the drag and one for the baitrunner, is there a rule of thumb to balance these out?
So, on reel with baitrunner, we don't use front drag at all or front drag doesn't exist at all on these kind of reels?
Great video
I sold my very expensive big pits and changed over to the shimmano 1000st bait runners and never looked back have caught big 35+ carp on them they perform exceptionally well and the spool capacity is perfect with 20lb esp mono 👍
Phil the carp catcher Kirkman love them m8 best I have used!
Looking at purchasing the Shimano Baitrunner X-Aero RA Reel . What's your thoughts .
There's an RB version also, which is cheaper. I think this is down to the materials the body is made of .
Both very good reels mate, down to personal preference between them.
Got so many more videos to upload and work on got better equipment and ready and reaing to go!
What do you think of the Korum latitude 6000 reel?
@@HG-vu4tw yes good reel mate decent make to I use there scales
@@davidrhodes-varley441 Thanks mate, just been bought it and I’m going to use it this weekend 👍🏻
Top notch!!!!!
Nice video thanks. Old dude restarting his fishing.
Have you done a tutorial on simple rig set ups , basically what goes on the end of the rod for casting out
I have few days ago, I will edit it next couple of days and upload it mate
The Carp Man awesome I’ll look forward to watching 👍🏻
thank u
I lost my Penn yesterday because I forgot to set the bait drag. Devastated! Either a big shark or Tarpon. Looking for a replacement.
What's the difference between the ra and rb models? I have two 6000 ra and two 6000rb.
Don't think there is much difference I believe it's just down to the model, on a Shimano baitrunner reels I can't find any difference from the RB and RA morals even online says there is no difference mate.
Nice vid - I get the rear drag but how do you set it at the spool end ? I've never used a real with a rear clutch before ( its been a long time ) Do you just tighten the front up and let the rear do the job for you ?
Hi no you set the rear drag by the knob on the back of the reel, normally you turn it left to give more line or tighten it up to the right to stop line being taken mate. Most reels that have baitrunner system won't have a front clutch/drag mate that real on the front you un screw it to unable the spool to be pulled of mate.
Reels that have front clutch/drag only like fox etc won't have a baitrunner system click on and of etc, you set it all from the spool end and adjust it how much line you want to give the fish etc. You can get a baitrunner reel like the one in this video or you can buy a reel that only has front clutch/drag and always set from the spool end on these reels but baitrunner reels you set from the backend of the reel mate.
I'm with you now. Thanks for taking the time to explain.
Hi again, i could do with asking for advice on carp fishing if you don't mind my friend. As i said earlier i have only been fishing for just under a year but not been a whole lot during that time, if you don't mind my questions i will pm you if thats ok with you.
Dave
menacegtr yes that's fine m8
Pm me m8
Thanks for this, very helpful. So if the bait runner is on and it’s taking your line, how do you then strike the fish? Or do you not need to?
You can quickly flick it of mate but what we do is strike while holding the spool! Soon as you wind half a turn the baitrunner automatically flicks of!
@@davidrhodes-varley441 yeah so that’s what I thought. I’ve tried striking without holding the spool and lost fish. Do you reckon this is why?
@@bobbyswann3753 yes because when you strike the line is all coming out so your giving the fish more like to get away! Plus can mess up your spool bad with tangles and line knots! Never strike with your bait runner on mate
@@davidrhodes-varley441 ok cool thanks for the advise. So as the spool is spinning stop it and strike?
@@bobbyswann3753 yes mate
What about the tensioner on the spool?
One quick question, how do we set the tension on the top drag?
Hi mate baitrunners do not really have front drag/clutch if you want you need to buy just a front drag reel. You can buy baitrunner and a front clutch but very expensive! It's normally personal choice to go with a bait runner or just a front drag system mate.
@@davidrhodes-varley441 Okay thanks alot for the fast reply. Really great help! I'm definitely subscribing
@@DwightSchrutes thank you big things coming mate
Alright Varley didn't realise you had a youtube channel 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for the helpful video, I now understand the baitrunner system however I'm still baffled by one thing. What does the dial do on the top of the spool? I understand that the clutch at the bottom is for the baitrunner but what is the other dial for?
Front dial on a bait runner only is to un screw to take of the spool mate. On a non bait runner reel it will be used as a clutch mate instead hope you understand 👍
@@davidrhodes-varley441 Thanks mate i think i understand now, my shimano 2500 baitrunner came this morning so was just trying to get familiar with it, so the top dial (above the spool) is for purely loosening the spool? Therefore the top dial on my reel needs to be tight?
@@WvsVFX yes mate
@@WvsVFX and on a normal non bait runner reel for more experienced anglers you control the front clutch give and take line when playing a fish you control the front dial to do this and when you set your rods down you adjust the front dial to your preference! Bait runner easier as you set the tension then just flick the bait runner up to give line down to stop the fish taking line
@@davidrhodes-varley441 Legend, thanks for your help mate
Not sure I agree my NGT profile 60 reels are brilliant IV had no problems as for them Shakespeare bait runs IV seen for less then 20 pounds there ok I would say thought it is a great video for new angler's in the hobby of carp fishing well done
Thank you mate
I'm curious to why on one hand your saying stay away from "Cheap" rods and reels overall ....and from NGT (I guess it could have been any company really)...when in fact the reels im looking at either the NGT7000 or NGT9000's look mint ..and aren't as cheap as yours.... They have all the features of the FOX12OOOfs but cost far less money .... and to be honest I can get 3 of the NGT's for the same as one FOX12000 ...... on a side note I have just purchased 3 CK350XD 12ft 3.5TC Rods with 50mm butt rings from Carp Kinetics for ...... wait for it ........£54.99 which sound terrible ..... but the rods arrived all in their own bags and look like any top of the range Carp Rod .... I was so impressed I'm going to buy 3 more in the lower TC of 2.5 and pair them up with my Shimano 10000XTE's and keep my 3lb FOX Warriors on a back burner for a bit.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but to dis a company about being cheap and then buying a reel that's even cheaper and claiming it far better seems a little counter productive.
Having said all of that you presented the video very well ...... and if I do decide to go for the reels I have already stated Ill let you know if they are a waste of space........ you have my word .......... GaZ
A Fishing Trip With GaZ hi Gaz no m8 just the BGT baitrunners. I have tested 8 and a few others I know have tested about 5 each time after a few fights with upper double carp they fail most common is the baitrunner system clip snaps inside so you can not use the baitrunner. Don't get me wrong there are some cheapish ones that are top notch for under 30 pound a reel like the Shakespeare ones in my video. Each time NGT reels have last max 6 months. Thanks for your comment gaz
The Carp Man Now it all makes sense mate .... wasn't dissin you or your video fella .... tight lines ...GaZ ☺
This might be a daft question, but can you use these reels to catch normal fish or is it carp specific?
Normal course fish to is fine mate
@@davidrhodes-varley441 thanks mate appreciate it, I’ve just ordered one that’s all so hoping to get out the weekend with it.
@@darreneaton9901 no problem mate they are good reels mate
What a great video, but I have one question. When the baitrunner is off... is there a possibility that the fish can take line? (does the clutch work when the baitrunner is off)
Thanks in advance, greetings from Amsterdam 👍🏻
On this type of reel no the bait runner has to be on for the fish to take as much line as you adjust the clutch to. If you don't flick the bait runner on and your not by your rod your rod could be pulled in! There are some make of reels out there that have the bait runner and the clutch to both work independently mate
@@davidrhodes-varley441 Thanks for the fast reply...
I think I got a reel that works the same. So what is the best way to reel the carp in once hooked. Should I feed him line by switching my baitrunner on/off.... or should I use the (anti) reverse to give some line ?
Thanks again !
@@thijsdegraaf78 best to use anti reverse once the fish is a bit more under control. Personal preference! What I do once the fish is hooked is get the fish under control as such stop it carting of if any snags! Make sure IV hit into the fish and confidant the hook is set then if needed I will flick baitrunner on adjust with the clutch how much line to give the fish and I use the baitrunner flick on and of untill the fish is under control and a bit closer in then if needed the rest is done on anti reverse if needed, hope that makes sense! Just got to practice go to a lake with smaller fish then it will just come to you like riding a bike mate, but the process is basically the same for a carp mate of a small medium carp to a big carp depends how hard they are fighting.
@@davidrhodes-varley441 🙌🏻
What about the ratchet on the front of the reel? That alters friction too...
Nothing wrong with NGT now but yes cheap is not good for regular fishing
What reel was you using in the video
Alfie Gooch Shakespeare m8
Are these only for fresh water.
blackcomet1 hi m8 I would say yes carp fishing.
Good vid bud tight lines
What about the dial on top of the spool itself ?
Hi mate the dial on top of the spoon, is just a wing screw cap it holds the spool onto the reel, if that was not screwed in then the spool will just fly of etc, that's it's only purpose. Cheers
The Carp Man hi thanks for the fast reply, my Korum shadow 3500 has a plus and minus sign as in it saying it’s tension for something, should this be as tight as possible then ?
@@Jdowgg92 hi mate I think you are referring to the back drag tension, plus and minus, yes the minus is for more line to give to the fish on a run or leave it set so you can decide how much line you give to the fish on a take set this once your out fishing and set your rods down depending on the lake and conditions and if your fishing next to snags you will need to decide how much line to give the fish, plus for less if you turn it all to the plus sign until you can not go anymore you reel will be locked and you won't be able to pull any line of the spool, only fish like this if you are fishing very tight to a snag! And or you sitting by yours rods ready to pick up the road right away if you get a take, if not chances are the fish will pull your pod or bank sticks over and you could lose ya rod in the lake etc, some reels the plus and minus are reversed, so minus will be less lime plus will be more line mate
The Carp Man thanks for the reply again and the detailed explanation a video on it would be even better I’m a little overwhelmed by it all and don’t quite get it 😀
Is that a Shakespeare beta reel?
Yes mate
@@davidrhodes-varley441 ive just bought that reel today for 16 quid...seems very good for the money
I got ngt camo 60 carp runner 25 each. They are good not all ngt are bad
There not they have got better over the years mate