Battle of the compact wide primes! Sony 24 / 2.8 vs Sigma 24 / 3.5... FIGHT! Check price at B&H: bhpho.to/3sfsszX // WEX UK: tidd.ly/3lIh3pH Buy Gordon a coffee: www.paypal.me/cameralabs Gordon's In Camera book at Amazon: amzn.to/2n61PfI / Amazon uk: amzn.to/2mBqRVZ Like Cameralabs? Get the merch: redbubble.com/people/cameralabs/shop Sample images and written review: www.cameralabs.com/sony-fe-24mm-f2-8-g-review/ Music: www.davidcuttermusic.com / @dcuttermusic #sony #24mm #lens
How good are the 24mm lens for landscape photography for high resolution cameras when you want to print very large pro quality prints ? I have the Sony 24mm 1.4 GM, but I also want a more compact and lightweight 24mm lens.
This 24 seems to be a more compelling lens than the 40 or 50. I don't mind f2.8 on a 24, but 2.5 on the 40/50 for $600 is way too slow. The gains in the compact size and build quality for $600 is not enough to offset the f2.8 when compared to Sony's own 35/1.8 and 50/1.8 lenses. These lenses are very nice looking though. Love those aperture rings.
I bought the 24mm, 40mm and the 50mm compact lenses and love them. Center focusing is great . I do not need the F/1.4 or F/1.2 apertures because I have the Nikons for that. But for street photography and the portability plus less weight I am very satisfied with these type of lenses. I use the 40mm F/2.5 on the Sony A7c in my Office Studio. But I am leaning more the the Nifty Fifty FE 50mm F/1.8 STM over the F/2.5 compact version. But still I am happy with the collection.
The 700€ price is reasonable as long as these lenses have very good optical quality and great autofocus performance. The introductory price of the small full frame Sony Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 T* ZA Sonnar in 2013 was similar. These three lenses suit perfectly with the small Sony a7C. Especially the 24mm f/2.8 which has a very convenient angle of view for travel photography, without serious perspective distortion. Ideal for landscape or even full body portrait photography. The full frame e-mount 50mm focal length is very popular by photographers and Sony now covers every possible need of a full frame 50mm e-mount lenses. _The very expensive 50mm f/1.2 G for extremely shallow depth of field. _The less expensive Sony Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 for very shallow depth of field. _The extremely sharp Sony Zeiss 55mm f/1.8 which isn't very expensive and I believe belongs to the 50mm full frame family. _The very affordable 50mm f/1.8 _The macro 50mm f/2.8 which is very sharp too. _The recent very small, close to the pancake size 50mm f/2.8. Sony has such an impressive variety of 50mm full frame lenses designed for its mirrorless cameras. Canon and Nikon will need at least five years to offer a similar variety of full frame 50mm lenses designed to their mirrorless cameras. However I have to admit that the NIKKOR Z 58mm f/0.95 S Noct which I believe belongs to the full frame 50mm family of lenses, is a very impressive unparalleled achievement.
thnaks Gordon for the review of these new lenses, I wonder how does this 24mm compare also with the other similar offerings from tamron and samyang....
Thank you! I have been checking so many videos to find the right lens. Your video made it way way easier since you do show all the details and dif on pictures. Thank you!
Between my 16-35, 24-105, and 24-240, I think I have 24mm pretty much covered. The main advantage would be the size especially when combined with my a7C vs my a7rIV for street photography.
Nice review as always. Crazy to me that Sony is building out such a cool video line and ecosystem but they still keep pumping out lenses with crazy focus breathing.
I have two questions gordon, first one is about the Sigma lens in 12:49 Why did the Sigma focusing take such large steps? Was it due to user error, or is this indeed how the sigma focusing behaves when you manually focus slowly? Second question is for the Sony lens' aperture ring. When you set it to clickless and turn the ring slowly, does the Aperture change by smaller steps than 1/3rd?
Thanks for the video and details. I think Son y really missed a great trick here - they should have just gone and created all these lenses at f/2 or f/1.8 and be done with it. But there we are.
I mostly only shoot JPEG out of camera - all the images I show in my reviews are JPEGs unless I state otherwise! So I have no RAW tips other than to try and get it right in-camera! - I honestly rarely if ever need the adjustments of RAW for what I'm after.
Yes, I think it'd be a nice option. There are other 24s, some designed for APSC specifically, but they are often longer than you'd like for a compact setup.
Gordon, excellent review… you explain things so clearly. I am making my first ever RUclips setup indoors. I am planning to buy a A7C and would like a great 24mm lens to shoot video. I am sitting at a desk and speaking to the camera. With this Sony f2.8 lens, Will I notice barrel distortion in my video or does the camera correct it internally automatically? Your input would be great appreciated!!
@@cameralabs thanks so much for your reply, Gordon! I am trying to figure out what lens to buy. When shooting indoors sitting at a white table and white/light grey background is the f2.8 aperture adequate? Is there any reason why I would need to buy a double priced F1.4 lens for a RUclips indoor video setup with good quality studio lights? I really don’t need any bokeh effect since I am sitting in front of a white backdrop. Is shooting at 2.8 ideal for video?
@@djc24 yes, you've rationalised that correctly. You will have enough light and even if you don't, these cameras look great at 400 or 800 ISO. You'd only get the smaller f-number if you wanted more blurring in the background.
Dear Gordon. Thanks for the review. I am looking for compact wide-ish lens(28 to 35mm) for my A6400. Would this lens be sharper than the Sigma 19 f2.8 on the A6400? The Sigma 16 is huge and I ended up selling it. Right now I am using the 30mm f2.8. When used as a manual focus lens, the DOF isn't great at F8. I need something with a deeper DOF at f5.6 or F8. Hence the question. Thanks. Would appreciate your input. I have also got the Sigma 30 and 56 f1.4.
I've note tested the Sigma 19 f2.8 so it's hard to say. I thought this new 24 was good on full-frame, so it should be nice on APSC if you want 36 equivalent
Hi Gordon, thanks for this excellent review. I love this focal length and have the GM and sigma 3.5 (for travel) on the R4 body. I was considering changing the sigma for the new sony. However it definately seems the sigma can hold its own, plus the all metal construction is great. Thanks for helping me rethink 😄🤔
Hi Gordon and thanks for the review. Do you think that my Sony alpha 7 (1st generation) will automatically correct the distortion on the JPEG with the Sony lens? Many thanks
Hi Gordon at 7'59s the purple haze on your hat in the Sony image due to LoCa, the Sigma does a lot better and I think one of the reasons why Sigma's bokeh is better.
Hey Gordon, Can you please do a comparison on best Wide Zoom for Video. Thanks 🙏🏼 -Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 -Sony FE 16-35mm F2.8 GM -Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8L IS USM Lens
I think the 24mm makes sense. Between the 40 and the 50, don't know why they need both.......a 35 and a 50 would have made more sense to me, along with the 24.
Great review as always Gordon. Love that sony have produced a set of small compact lenses in the vein of the 35/2.8.. I do wonder about the timing after sigma release their very similar primes with aperture rings too... i'm sure it's just a coincidence... :P I do wonder where these fit given the aperture speeds and the cost of the 35/1.8 and 50/1.8 FE lenses which aren't exactly big but these are priced above that. Did sony indicate where they fit (price wise and designation it's clearly above these but at the cost of erm.. cost and image quality relative to the cheaper, faster lenses). Still shows how mature the sony system is now that there are approximately 2,321,532 choices of 50mm lens now :D
Alright. I bit the bullet. Just wandered into London Drugs and put my money down. I thought the box was empty, but no, there was a lens in there. It's impossibly small. I use an FX3, an RS2, SVMX, and usually the 14mm GM on my channel for less populated walkabouts. Nature stuff. But that setup is huge and very aggressive for walking around in the downtown core or among people at car shows. I now have my urban inconspicuity rig complete. This lens, the FX3, Roland binaural earbuds, and a crane M3. I was going to just go back to APSC for city stuff. Now I don't have to.
Great work Gordon. I personally like Sigma's rendering like you. However, I think 24GM being a bargain, probably even the biggest bargain among all five main manufacturers. Absolutely top performer Nikon Canon Panasonic will charge at least $2000 for. Being half of 24GM price, I actually think this 24mm F2.8 is pretty poor value. Look at DSLR era Canon 24mm F2.8 is a fifth of 24L price, Nikon 24mm F1.8G has fantastic optical performance, a third of 24mm F1.4G price. Nikon 35mm F1.8G used to be a quarter of 35mm F1.4G price, Canon 35mm F2IS is a third of 35L II.
You're right, there were a lot of bargains in the DSLR mounts, something that's lacking in the mirrorless World. BUT equally many of those cheaper DSLR mount lenses weren't as sharp towards the corners as these new ones. As for the 24 1.4 GM, it's an amazing lens, and very well-priced, although obviously bigger than these ones.
Can you do a photo of some stars , some astrophotography , just to let us know how is the coma aberration on this 24mm? Just post a reply here if you can, thank you!
@@cameralabs Truly! I'm hesitant to pull the trigger on the Sigma 65mm because Sony has been releasing so much lately. I'm looking for something to live between my 45mm and 85mm.
They all come at once,lol.Thanks Gordon this is just the review i wanted. I like to use this type of lens on my A7rII ,two small lenses for the price of one hehe.Cheers.
Battle of the compact wide primes! Sony 24 / 2.8 vs Sigma 24 / 3.5... FIGHT!
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#sony #24mm #lens
How good are the 24mm lens for landscape photography for high resolution cameras when you want to print very large pro quality prints ? I have the Sony 24mm 1.4 GM, but I also want a more compact and lightweight 24mm lens.
@@Anarki2U did you watch the review and see my landscape tests? I also have full-res images you can download via my review at cameralabs.com
Thanks for taking the time to review each lens separately.
You're very welcome! It was a lot of work, but I hope worth it!
This 24 seems to be a more compelling lens than the 40 or 50. I don't mind f2.8 on a 24, but 2.5 on the 40/50 for $600 is way too slow. The gains in the compact size and build quality for $600 is not enough to offset the f2.8 when compared to Sony's own 35/1.8 and 50/1.8 lenses. These lenses are very nice looking though. Love those aperture rings.
I bought the 24mm, 40mm and the 50mm compact lenses and love them. Center focusing is great . I do not need the F/1.4 or F/1.2 apertures because I have the Nikons for that. But for street photography and the portability plus less weight I am very satisfied with these type of lenses. I use the 40mm F/2.5 on the Sony A7c in my Office Studio. But I am leaning more the the Nifty Fifty FE 50mm F/1.8 STM over the F/2.5 compact version. But still I am happy with the collection.
The 700€ price is reasonable as long as these lenses have very good optical quality and great autofocus performance.
The introductory price of the small full frame Sony Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 T* ZA Sonnar in 2013 was similar.
These three lenses suit perfectly with the small Sony a7C.
Especially the 24mm f/2.8 which has a very convenient angle of view for travel photography, without serious perspective distortion. Ideal for landscape or even full body portrait photography.
The full frame e-mount 50mm focal length is very popular by photographers and Sony now covers every possible need of a full frame 50mm e-mount lenses.
_The very expensive 50mm f/1.2 G for extremely shallow depth of field.
_The less expensive Sony Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 for very shallow depth of field.
_The extremely sharp Sony Zeiss 55mm f/1.8 which isn't very expensive and I believe belongs to the 50mm full frame family.
_The very affordable 50mm f/1.8
_The macro 50mm f/2.8 which is very sharp too.
_The recent very small, close to the pancake size 50mm f/2.8.
Sony has such an impressive variety of 50mm full frame lenses designed for its mirrorless cameras. Canon and Nikon will need at least five years to offer a similar variety of full frame 50mm lenses designed to their mirrorless cameras.
However I have to admit that the NIKKOR Z 58mm f/0.95 S Noct which I believe belongs to the full frame 50mm family of lenses, is a very impressive unparalleled achievement.
thnaks Gordon for the review of these new lenses, I wonder how does this 24mm compare also with the other similar offerings from tamron and samyang....
Sadly Samyang won't send me lenses for comparative reviews, but I did include a direct comparison with the Sigma.
Thank you! I have been checking so many videos to find the right lens. Your video made it way way easier since you do show all the details and dif on pictures. Thank you!
You're very welcome!
Between my 16-35, 24-105, and 24-240, I think I have 24mm pretty much covered. The main advantage would be the size especially when combined with my a7C vs my a7rIV for street photography.
I'm using the 24mm F3.5 in the SIGMA fp, incredible compact combo
Hands down the best detailed "user" no nonsense review on you tube. great work. Thanks Ian (UK)
Thanks Ian, glad you enjoyed it - I worked very hard to get three separate comparative reviews out at the same time!
Gordon, thank you for the comparison between the new Sony 24 and the Sigma 24 f/3.5. Just what I was wanting to see. :)
You're very welcome!
Nice review as always. Crazy to me that Sony is building out such a cool video line and ecosystem but they still keep pumping out lenses with crazy focus breathing.
Nice !!! 24mm f2.8 maybe would be my next lens for my a7iii
I have two questions gordon, first one is about the Sigma lens in 12:49 Why did the Sigma focusing take such large steps? Was it due to user error, or is this indeed how the sigma focusing behaves when you manually focus slowly?
Second question is for the Sony lens' aperture ring. When you set it to clickless and turn the ring slowly, does the Aperture change by smaller steps than 1/3rd?
The Sigma did seem to manually focus in chunks when i tested it on the Alpha 1, not sure why... I'll check the aperture Q.
Thanks for the video and details. I think Son y really missed a great trick here - they should have just gone and created all these lenses at f/2 or f/1.8 and be done with it. But there we are.
fantastic! @Gordon Laing do you happen to have any raw photo editing tips? what exactly did you do to image @6:56
I mostly only shoot JPEG out of camera - all the images I show in my reviews are JPEGs unless I state otherwise! So I have no RAW tips other than to try and get it right in-camera! - I honestly rarely if ever need the adjustments of RAW for what I'm after.
Thanks Gordon for your review, do you think the Sony 24 would be a good option for the a6700 being compact and a near 35mm fov.
Yes, I think it'd be a nice option. There are other 24s, some designed for APSC specifically, but they are often longer than you'd like for a compact setup.
@@cameralabs thank you Gordon appreciate your reply and advice.🙂
Interesting review. The Sigma i lenses behave - in regards to bokeh - almost like STF lenses...
Gordon, excellent review… you explain things so clearly. I am making my first ever RUclips setup indoors. I am planning to buy a A7C and would like a great 24mm lens to shoot video. I am sitting at a desk and speaking to the camera. With this Sony f2.8 lens, Will I notice barrel distortion in my video or does the camera correct it internally automatically? Your input would be great appreciated!!
Thanks! The distortion is corrected for video, although as a wide lens, there'll still be some if you get too close to it.
@@cameralabs thanks so much for your reply, Gordon! I am trying to figure out what lens to buy. When shooting indoors sitting at a white table and white/light grey background is the f2.8 aperture adequate? Is there any reason why I would need to buy a double priced F1.4 lens for a RUclips indoor video setup with good quality studio lights? I really don’t need any bokeh effect since I am sitting in front of a white backdrop. Is shooting at 2.8 ideal for video?
@@djc24 yes, you've rationalised that correctly. You will have enough light and even if you don't, these cameras look great at 400 or 800 ISO. You'd only get the smaller f-number if you wanted more blurring in the background.
@@cameralabs so clearly… and for the additional insight about the ISO. I really appreciate it!
Dear Gordon. Thanks for the review.
I am looking for compact wide-ish lens(28 to 35mm) for my A6400. Would this lens be sharper than the Sigma 19 f2.8 on the A6400?
The Sigma 16 is huge and I ended up selling it. Right now I am using the 30mm f2.8. When used as a manual focus lens, the DOF isn't great at F8. I need something with a deeper DOF at f5.6 or F8.
Hence the question.
Thanks.
Would appreciate your input.
I have also got the Sigma 30 and 56 f1.4.
I've note tested the Sigma 19 f2.8 so it's hard to say. I thought this new 24 was good on full-frame, so it should be nice on APSC if you want 36 equivalent
@@cameralabsJust tried the lens on my A6400. It feels nice and light.
Hi Gordon, thanks for this excellent review. I love this focal length and have the GM and sigma 3.5 (for travel) on the R4 body. I was considering changing the sigma for the new sony. However it definately seems the sigma can hold its own, plus the all metal construction is great. Thanks for helping me rethink 😄🤔
If you already have the Sigma, I wouldn't say you need to upgrade - they're well-matched in quality.
Hi Gordon and thanks for the review. Do you think that my Sony alpha 7 (1st generation) will automatically correct the distortion on the JPEG with the Sony lens? Many thanks
I would hope so
I picked up an unused Sigma secondhand for £350 and love it. It's certainly a very sharp lens even wide open unlike fast lenses
good and fast review, how about the close-focus performance of SONY 24mm?
I show this in the review.
Hi Gordon at 7'59s the purple haze on your hat in the Sony image due to LoCa, the Sigma does a lot better and I think one of the reasons why Sigma's bokeh is better.
I think you may be right, I'll look again for my upcoming review of the Sigma.
Hey Gordon,
Can you please do a comparison on best Wide Zoom for Video. Thanks 🙏🏼
-Sigma 18-35mm f1.8
-Sony FE 16-35mm F2.8 GM
-Canon RF 15-35mm F2.8L IS USM Lens
Those are different platforms and different sensor sizes too!
feel the ribbed hood would be harder to clean, though a blower will surely help
Yes, it can be a bit of a dust magnet,,,
You're like the hardest working youtuber, thanks for this!
I was over the last seven days anyway!
I think the 24mm makes sense. Between the 40 and the 50, don't know why they need both.......a 35 and a 50 would have made more sense to me, along with the 24.
I think they felt they already had a lot of 35s already...
I don’t think they are aiming for most buyers to buy both. I suspect it will be a case of people wanting (say) the 24mm + 50mm OR the 40mm.
Would’ve made more sense if the Sony 40mm was a pancake lens like the Canon 40mm.
I was alright until you flashed the GM 24mm 1.4, I want that one!
That is a brilliant lens!
14:15 I'd get Viltrox FE 24 f/1.8 which has minimal focus breathing and costs only $400.
We're testing a Viltrox over at cameralabs.com at the moment...
Great review as always Gordon.
Love that sony have produced a set of small compact lenses in the vein of the 35/2.8.. I do wonder about the timing after sigma release their very similar primes with aperture rings too... i'm sure it's just a coincidence... :P
I do wonder where these fit given the aperture speeds and the cost of the 35/1.8 and 50/1.8 FE lenses which aren't exactly big but these are priced above that. Did sony indicate where they fit (price wise and designation it's clearly above these but at the cost of erm.. cost and image quality relative to the cheaper, faster lenses).
Still shows how mature the sony system is now that there are approximately 2,321,532 choices of 50mm lens now :D
First review of these new compact FE lens
I've reviewed all three!
I like prime lenses with an aperture ring. This looks like a great lens!!!!
Which one are you referring to? They both have aperture rings.
Alright. I bit the bullet. Just wandered into London Drugs and put my money down. I thought the box was empty, but no, there was a lens in there. It's impossibly small.
I use an FX3, an RS2, SVMX, and usually the 14mm GM on my channel for less populated walkabouts. Nature stuff. But that setup is huge and very aggressive for walking around in the downtown core or among people at car shows.
I now have my urban inconspicuity rig complete. This lens, the FX3, Roland binaural earbuds, and a crane M3.
I was going to just go back to APSC for city stuff. Now I don't have to.
Great work Gordon. I personally like Sigma's rendering like you. However, I think 24GM being a bargain, probably even the biggest bargain among all five main manufacturers. Absolutely top performer Nikon Canon Panasonic will charge at least $2000 for. Being half of 24GM price, I actually think this 24mm F2.8 is pretty poor value. Look at DSLR era Canon 24mm F2.8 is a fifth of 24L price, Nikon 24mm F1.8G has fantastic optical performance, a third of 24mm F1.4G price. Nikon 35mm F1.8G used to be a quarter of 35mm F1.4G price, Canon 35mm F2IS is a third of 35L II.
You're right, there were a lot of bargains in the DSLR mounts, something that's lacking in the mirrorless World. BUT equally many of those cheaper DSLR mount lenses weren't as sharp towards the corners as these new ones. As for the 24 1.4 GM, it's an amazing lens, and very well-priced, although obviously bigger than these ones.
I don‘t even have a FF cam yet, but this review was so helpful and awesome. Great job, Gordon! #subscribed
you're welcome!
Can you do a photo of some stars , some astrophotography , just to let us know how is the coma aberration on this 24mm? Just post a reply here if you can, thank you!
I wish I could but where I live it's hard to get a good astro shot.
Great review as always! Thanks!
Great review as always Gordon!!
If Sony released a 60, 65, or 70mm lens with this design, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
I hope they do more
@@cameralabs Truly! I'm hesitant to pull the trigger on the Sigma 65mm because Sony has been releasing so much lately. I'm looking for something to live between my 45mm and 85mm.
@@aaronsambeyfilm get the voigtlander 65 Apo. Best lens on the system
@@emerywd I love my Voigtlander 35mm - and typically manual/vintage lenses in general, but I'm looking for one with AF for my pro photo kit.
@@cameraprepper7938 I have the Nokton Classic 35mm 1.4. Beautiful lens. I have the close focus attachment on it.
Great review and comparison!
Great review - the Sony looks much better than the Sigma across the board in my opinion.
Good job as ever
Thankyou!
Excellent review.
Very well done! thanks
Thankyou!
They all come at once,lol.Thanks Gordon this is just the review i wanted. I like to use this type of lens on my A7rII ,two small lenses for the price of one hehe.Cheers.
Thanks!
Thankyou!
It's incredible how much better the colours of the SIGMA are. The skin tones, the red, to green.
у нас же у всех sony one