Triple-T #55 - Beginner knife making series - Grinding Bevels and Heat Treating
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- In Triple-T (tools, tips and talk) #55, Part 3 of the beginner series will be grinding the initial bevels and heat treatment of the beginner knife. (Links Below!)
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I haven't heat treated in a forge in a while but this heat treat turns out perfect! Any questions you have I didn't cover?
Here it is! Lol was goin through withdrawals yesterday.
@@mcrich1978 sorry, totally spaced this week. Here it is at least.
@@TyrellKnifeworks love the Shirt 😁
@@mcrich1978 which one, the vintage Star Wars one?
@@TyrellKnifeworks yes sir! 😉
A hundred thumbs up for you doing this Denis! Thanks so much!
Thanks for following along, Alan!
Again this beginners series is awesome. Thanks for teaching. You are a great teacher.
I’m glad it was helpful!
Thank you... I'm watching you from Saudi Arabia.
Thanks for watching, Wael!
Two things I REALLY appreciate about this video, first, you showing the difference between lights on and lights off, as far as what the steel looks like. Personally, I am so light sensitive that I only heat treat at night with the lights off in my shop. Second, aggravated quenching. I cringe when I see people leaving a blade completely stationary in the oil. Thank you for encouraging people to use an aggravated quench!
I’ve never heard of it as an “aggravated” quench. I’m going to refer to it as an “angry” quench from now on. 🤣. Yes, both things are necessary and I try to explain why. 👍
@@TyrellKnifeworks "angry quench" I love it!
Thanks for the easy to follow knife maker videos! Most makers focus on being exited rather than their craft.
I’m glad it’s helpful, thanks for watching!
I've been using canola for my 1080/1084 successfully for a year now because that's what a ton of people on RUclips and knife forums recommended. You're actually the first one I've heard to not recommend it.
If you watch Dr Larrin Thomas’ video on the subject, you’ll be convinced. Canola is a shallow hardening quenchant for 10xx series steels. Thanks for watching.
@@TyrellKnifeworks Welp.... That data is terrifying. But I'm in complete agreement with your old comment there: only 41 hardness at .03?! Come on. I'm skeptical. For those of you who can't find the video: ruclips.net/video/Vdy0nvVEtJY/видео.html
Good vid. Jason Knight really started something with the shark fin on the spine. Over half of the RUclipsrs have it on their knives. I hammer my bevels in before heat treat, then finish grind them after.
The false edge (shark fin) was popular long before Jason knight was doing it. Thanks for watching.
@@TyrellKnifeworks yeah, I have seen that particular "shark fin" (I'm referring to that little step and not the whole false edge) in some medieval knives from 14th century at least
I once did it as a joke and a bit of a pisstake on some kitchen knives, they all sold out in a week and despite that I've not had the sheer gall to do it again :)
@@krissteel4074 I’ve seen it on BBQ knives, but not chef knives. But hey, if it sells… 😜
@@TyrellKnifeworks They were really nice knives with some cool mokume-gane bolsters and fancy timbers in an ultra-high carbon, high chromium steel (technically not even a steel at that level)
But a little 'tippy' to the front for draw cuts sort of like a bullhead butcher knife, I did it as a joke and would be kind of ashamed to do it again :)
Sooooo fashionably late to the comment section for TTT 😅 I still think that you taking the time to try to give back to the next Gen of knife makers just says a lot about your character as a Blade Maker and a cool dude all in one 👍🏽 So when do they announce that you've won the Bowie Competition? 😉
You guys gotta wait until Tuesday to find out the winners!
great video denis as always
Thanks brother!
Thank you I appreciate your help as always 😊
Thanks for watching, Dan!
Great information as usual all day yesterday I thought it was Friday it happens to everybody
My wife laughed at me this morning. How did I miss a day this week?!
Very nice indeed, thanks for sharing...
Thanks for watching, Robert!
Tyrell Knifeworks this is a very interesting series of videos. Thank you.
I’m glad the series is helpful, thanks for watching!
Thank you so much again !
Ive spent days watching videos of grinding and your videos are by far the best ones and basically the only ones where I really learned something :D
This will help me so much 🤩⚔
I’m glad to hear they are helpful, Richard!
Another Great helpful video automatic thumbs up before I even watch the video , Awesome Merch to 💪
Thanks so much for watching, Trevor!
Great video!
Thanks for checking it out!
@@TyrellKnifeworks loved your Bowie too. All of them were so good
Today's Friday
Lmao love your videos, very informative, I can't wait until I actually hopefully start my own metal forging, thanks for all of your teachings
Yeah, this one was late by a day, sorry. It’s been a crazy week
@@TyrellKnifeworks For me too! You scared me half to death haha. I had just convinced myself it was Friday and then see your upload. Today can be Thriday though, I'm fine with that.
@@TyrellKnifeworks you never have to apologize for sharing your beautiful work. I greatly appreciate you sharing with us, thank you very much
You should of heard him when I told him it was Friday!! Lol
I’m sorry I don’t have that on film.
@@kimberlytyrell7227 getting a message from the great Tyrrell is good enough
I'm trying to learn your way of grinding bevels- it needs a practice, but at the end, its give much more controle and acuracy. The biggest issue I have, is this terrible wobbling I have in my belt grinder (my drive wheel is not right). Great Video! Try to talk about this technique every time you make a new knife- makers should know it- its great!
Time to fix that wobble my friend! Thanks for watching!
@@TyrellKnifeworks i need to make another drive wheel, but I dont have a Lathe...
@@DBCraftWorld it just purchase one, they aren’t that expensive.
You can’t make these beautiful knives, be the most amazing husband AND remember the days of the week 😘
Yes Honey, you’re right! 😘
My question is when using1084 can you quench in water first then right into canola oil reason being trying
To get around heat treat oil expense for know thanks...great video
It’s really sub-par and you risk cracking your blade. What costs more to you, spending hours and hours on a blade to lose it during heat treat or spending $60 on quench oil? 🤷♂️
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Yup, I agree. I can afford the fancy granite plate so I got one. I suggest most makers just grab a tile or a cheap piece of granite. 👍
I didn't see any mention of an austenitizing soak prior to quench. Would you say this is unnecessary for 5160?
5169 doesn’t need a soak. As long as the whole blade comes up to an even temp, you’re good. This is why I think 5160 is one of the best steels for beginners. Thanks for watching
Isnt the file test straight out of the quench is filing on the decarburized surface layer?
Need to grind that away before actually testing it properly (as you showed)
Just found the channel through the Bowie challange and you got another subscriber
It depends on the steel. Something like 80CRV2 has a thick decarb layer. The 10xx series tends to flake off more in the quench and you have very little decarb. 5160 is also a pretty thin layer. Certainly something to be aware of though. Thanks for watching and joining the channel! 👍
I wish I saw this video the day it came out, and the same day I quenched my first blade. I believe I barely achieved proper blade hardness, but I wanted to ask if it was possible to heat treat and quench again? If so what other considerations should I know about?
Sure it’s possible. Just go through your entire normalization and grain refinement steps first. Then you can quench again. You can do this as many times as you need. 👍
@@TyrellKnifeworks Thanks for the quick response! I am looking forward to completing it now that I've had experience working though the difficult steps!
سلام .درمورد سختکاری بوسیله کوره القایی الکتریکی از نظر کیفیت سختکاری جوابگو هست؟ممنون👍
فورج القایی حرارت بسیار موضعی است. این ایده خوبی نیست که درمان حرارتی به این روش انجام شود. گرمای کلی می خواهید و تیغه را خیس می کنید. ممنون از نگاهت، امید!
Anyone feel free to answer, but I'm curious if there is a tool to buy that can do the scribe lines for center of blade? Or is it a custom tool that knife makers create for themselves?
You can certainly find a center line scribe. Here's a link: www.ebay.com/itm/202251416923?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=dujrYbxQT-C&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=6o45UD_5RE6&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY. Thanks for watching.
How long are you cooling the blade when normalizing?
Let it cool in still air until you can hold it with hour hand. Thanks for watching!
Would you recommend normalizing for stock removal I was told no by the steel company that I buy from they said it was already normalized ?
Absolutely always always normalize. You have no idea what they did or didn’t do to the steel and at what temp. Do the normalization step. 👍
@@TyrellKnifeworks thanks verry helpful once a gain
what oil do you use for damascus 15n20 and 1095
Best to checkout my heat treating video here: ruclips.net/video/akQaQwciVCs/видео.html. It will go over all my processes including what oils. Thanks for watching.