Another great video! I can imagine the amount of work it takes to stop every now and then to shoot footage, and then head again, stop, repeat. Great work! 👏🏽
OMG, those old motorcycles are so awesome! It's a marve to just watch how engineering thought developed year after year! I wish I could take them apart and put back together!
Same as my f850gsa I’m from the uk but in Austria at the moment part way around a European trip, heading to do a few laps of the Nurburgring at the end of the week. What a great bike, love it ! Ps I’ve had gs1200 and 1290 Ktm’s maybe not as fast but definitely as much fun 👍🏼
Thanks for your video. I traded my 2018 S1000XR for one brand new F850GSA and I don't regreat it in any point. Living in Switzerland, it's more reasonable to ride than 170HP
Beautiful shots, useful insights, and the spirit of touring. This channel spoils me for watching any other motorcycle videos. Thank you and keep up the good work.
Looking at those early classic "experimental" motorbikes and how difficult they were to operate, I can't help thinking that, still, a lot of people are still heavily against solutions that make riding easier and focuses the rider's attention more on the enjoyment rather than on piloting the motorcycle, such as DCT, electronic rider aids, cleared OLED instrumentation, sending coordinates directly from Google maps to your navigator, etc. Personally, I like having the gear and throttle controls where they are now, electronic speed control, fuel injection and engine management, lean angle ABS, etc. I won't swop riding a R1200GS for riding a R1150GS, and know very few people who don't believe the motorcycles you get today are far better than those from 30 years ago.
I replaced the windshield with a larger one from Wunder... that works really well and I also placed the navigator above the monitor of the bike, also in this case very functional. As a navigator, I use that nice mobile phone in combination with the BMW system. Side bags I use those of the really resistant Kriega. Finally, I placed a net above the saddle to prevent the saddle from heating up during the hot season and draining the water during the rains.
Your riding suit matched colors of your GS perfectly and in some of the shots it looked like no one was riding on the bike when it was a shot from above Lol. Nice video enjoying it.
I really liked your speech about suspension it is a good example of beating around the bush. And finally I appreciate that you said that this front suspension ins such bike is a mistake ;).
Best thing to do is get aftermarket suspension, stock suspension generally isn't going to cut it anyway and having proper suspension helps in handling and seating comfort.
Awesome video ! Lovely scenery, I recognized almost everything from previous motor travels. Btw, not too far from Como there is Mandello. There you have the Moto Guzzi Museum. Nice overview and it's free.
The price of this bike is only a little bit less compared to the GS1250. Plus the weight don't seem too far behind each other. Most people would rather spend a little and go with the 1250 than this.
I’m gonna wish I’d bought this instead on “The beeg one.” I made a deposit on a R1200 GSA. I’ve owned a 95 R 1100 GS and a 07 GS. IM 69 years old. I hope my strength holds up.
Good job, BMW Motorrad! Your production strategy of making everything heavier and "luxury-like" makes picking up KTM 790 Adventure R a no-brainer after my R1200GS :) Love the video still.
Don’t know what the market is for this bike. Its stated wet weight is the exact same as the R1200GS. The point of a smaller engine bike is for weight and cost savings, and the F850GSA doesn’t accomplish the first and only marginally accomplishes the latter.
@@ciszero packages don't make for a more capable adventure bike unfortunately. Sure they add some comfort but R1250GS is easily way more comfortable at the same weight. In my country 790R is more expensive than fully loaded F850GSA due to BMW discounts and the KTM are sold out still.
hi! What do you think wich one is better for road and lots of highway? tracer 900 or f850gs? I know this is a real adv but i rode both of them and i cant decide...f850 is a great machine but the tracers power is incredible.... Or should i wait for the f850 rs version 17" wheels?
André CC Suzuki V Strom 1000 :)) now, the Tracer is sportier, but less comfortable than the F850GS. The F850GS feels a bit soft for road use. It depends on your riding style. Tracer = 100% street, sport touring, less comfort. F850GS - not that fast, but more comfortable. The RS should come up in a couple of months so if you're not in a hurry
Nice review bro. Looking forward to your review of Tenere 700. Then I need your opinion about which one you would buy for adventure rides (90% on road / 10% offroad) :) #1 Africa Twin #2 BMW GS 850 / GS 850 adventure #3 Tenere 700
Great review as always. One thing I don't like on this ADV bike is its small fuel tank , only, 4 US GL, not sufficient for ADV bike unless you consider shlaping Canisters
Exactly - Why pay lots more for a GS1250 when this thing does everything the 1250 does at considerably less wonga.... Much less heavy and cumbersome too. It's a no brainer. If looking for a real bargain look at the Honda CB500X for only £6,000 and another capable budget adventure bike.
@@DifferentSpokesTV Hilarious.... Yes I read the one page review in last week's MCN and the Honda CB500X got awesome review. A real super bargain to boot for a lightweight adventure bike capable of Round the World use. I also like the look of it with chunky 50/50 Tyres. For only 6K new what's not to like. I'm looking for a lighter bike than my current GSX1250 FA (Bandit with fairing) and I may just buy a CB500X. I'm 56 with bad back and I don't need a 1250 any longer. Funny how bikes have got bigger - a large bike in 1980s was a 750 now it's a 1200! No I'm convinced the way to go is to downsize to a middleweight.
Hi Cristian. @DriveMag Riders. From that Revit jacket and the BWM Rallye jacked you tested later which one is better? Riding the most of the time around 26-32 Celsius
@@12masterr - True, but there are other options 100 pounds less weight. 52 pounds not enough for me to make a change and would not go with the GSA version in either case
@@paul.vanhout57 honestly, if I have the choice I'll go with the 1250,just because I was used to the power of the 1200 I had before,and you are right about the weight felling, look like tje center of gravity on the 1250 is lower and even when weight more,feels the same.also I miss the power!
Hi bro, nice yo see you again. I saw that you are wearing the Offtrack Jacket. I am looking for buy this one or the Tornado 2, I am from Mexico and we can reach 36 Celsius degrees on summer, I know that this is bike review, but can you share with me your experiences using this jacket ? Normally in my country at morning we have 12-25 Celsius degrees and in the afternoon we can reach 36 degrees.. You think this jacket is great to use on my weather/country ? or Tornado is better ? I will really appreciate your help on this.
Depends on what you want to do with it. The GSA has a larger tank (2 additional gallons), larger front fairings (more wind blockage), better wind screen, more comfort for long distance touring. Consider what you would add/change to the GS to do what you want - upgraded windscreen, add engine guards, add luggage rack, etc. Whatever you add will add weight and cost. If you're not adding much, the GS might be the better option. If you're adding a lot, you may be better off with the GSA.
You probably already made a decsion. The GSA has a larger tank, larger front fairings (more wind blockage), better wind screen. Consider what you would add to the GS - upgrade the GS windscreen, add engine guards, add luggage rack, etc. Whatever you add will add weight and cost. If you're not adding much, the GS might be the better option. If you're adding a lot, you may be better off with the GSA.
Actually I like your videos, now a bit disappointed .. clear you don't like this f850gs, but make it clear. Not the rusty way you pay attention on the alu bags than the entire bike configuration. Stay cool bro - cheers and we love this mid range All around BM
People that want 30kg less weight than a 1200gs and not the danger of damaging the cylinders. It is the same price (almost) as the triumph 800 xca and the honda africa twin. 1500 euro more than the ktm 790. If you use about the same option list. Ypu even have a few additional things on the bmw then so. I have been looking at this middle class as I dont want a huge too heavy one, so I have been comparing spec sheets and prices, taking what I want in the options. Like heated grips and cruise control.
RIP , your videos were always a joy to watch
Another great video! I can imagine the amount of work it takes to stop every now and then to shoot footage, and then head again, stop, repeat. Great work! 👏🏽
OMG, those old motorcycles are so awesome! It's a marve to just watch how engineering thought developed year after year! I wish I could take them apart and put back together!
Same as my f850gsa I’m from the uk but in Austria at the moment part way around a European trip, heading to do a few laps of the Nurburgring at the end of the week. What a great bike, love it !
Ps I’ve had gs1200 and 1290 Ktm’s maybe not as fast but definitely as much fun 👍🏼
R.I.P buddy, will miss you
Bravo Cristian, setting new standards for moto journalism! Excellence was never so enjoyable! Love your work! PaulB 🇦🇺
Camera / drone work is spot on if you were on your own. Well done 👍🏼
Thanks for your video.
I traded my 2018 S1000XR for one brand new F850GSA and I don't regreat it in any point.
Living in Switzerland, it's more reasonable to ride than 170HP
Another excellent review - great drone footage as well as ride and 3rd person! Nicely done!
Beautiful shots, useful insights, and the spirit of touring. This channel spoils me for watching any other motorcycle videos. Thank you and keep up the good work.
Your reviews are always good and I enjoy watching them 😎
R.I.P Cristian will miss you :(
Great video, one of the best bike videos on YT
Rest in peace brother…
What do you mean
@@VI_Deo_Opspresenter died some time ago in a crash
@@Lecruque omg, sad
Always a pleasure to view your vids. nice camera work and great shots of the bike from above👍
Looking at those early classic "experimental" motorbikes and how difficult they were to operate, I can't help thinking that, still, a lot of people are still heavily against solutions that make riding easier and focuses the rider's attention more on the enjoyment rather than on piloting the motorcycle, such as DCT, electronic rider aids, cleared OLED instrumentation, sending coordinates directly from Google maps to your navigator, etc. Personally, I like having the gear and throttle controls where they are now, electronic speed control, fuel injection and engine management, lean angle ABS, etc. I won't swop riding a R1200GS for riding a R1150GS, and know very few people who don't believe the motorcycles you get today are far better than those from 30 years ago.
I replaced the windshield with a larger one from Wunder... that works really well and I also placed the navigator above the monitor of the bike, also in this case very functional. As a navigator, I use that nice mobile phone in combination with the BMW system. Side bags I use those of the really resistant Kriega. Finally, I placed a net above the saddle to prevent the saddle from heating up during the hot season and draining the water during the rains.
Great work, really enjoyed watching every single tour review of yours
Thanks. Something very nice coming soon :D
Your riding suit matched colors of your GS perfectly and in some of the shots it looked like no one was riding on the bike when it was a shot from above Lol. Nice video enjoying it.
Went through the same tunnel and gassed at very same fuel station last week, now back home in Manchester Uk
Sounds like I should go buy that gas station.
Awesome. Thank you! I got mine today. I Love it.
Perfect, as always!!!
Great video, not many people talk enough about the 850gs and your videos make up for that!
Good man! Great review videos, great style, plenty of work gone in to produce top quality content like this, you're the man! 😍
Great videos as usual. Never one sided reviews. Would love to hear your opinion about 850GSA vs KTM 790 Adv S
Thank you 👍
I really liked your speech about suspension it is a good example of beating around the bush. And finally I appreciate that you said that this front suspension ins such bike is a mistake ;).
Best thing to do is get aftermarket suspension, stock suspension generally isn't going to cut it anyway and having proper suspension helps in handling and seating comfort.
Great video! I am planning a journey from London to Manila. BMW adventure it will be!
What's your route?
I dont know why there are so little reviews about this bike? I have mine for 3 months and 3k miles already and there are almost no reviews!
Great film, I'm very tempted by one of these.
Awesome video ! Lovely scenery, I recognized almost everything from previous motor travels. Btw, not too far from Como there is Mandello. There you have the Moto Guzzi Museum. Nice overview and it's free.
Ah,by the way,nice review! I have the exclusive model,that comes already with the higher screen and comfort seat!
Good choice!
Danke for this amazing video, take care of yourself:)
The price of this bike is only a little bit less compared to the GS1250. Plus the weight don't seem too far behind each other. Most people would rather spend a little and go with the 1250 than this.
I’m gonna wish I’d bought this instead on “The beeg one.” I made a deposit on a R1200 GSA. I’ve owned a 95 R 1100 GS and a 07 GS. IM 69 years old. I hope my strength holds up.
Thks again guys,appreciate your work.
Thanks, Bruce.
Good job, BMW Motorrad!
Your production strategy of making everything heavier and "luxury-like" makes picking up KTM 790 Adventure R a no-brainer after my R1200GS :)
Love the video still.
850 GSA with all the packages on it > KTM 790 though (rode both, bought the 850 GSA)
Don’t know what the market is for this bike. Its stated wet weight is the exact same as the R1200GS. The point of a smaller engine bike is for weight and cost savings, and the F850GSA doesn’t accomplish the first and only marginally accomplishes the latter.
@@ciszero packages don't make for a more capable adventure bike unfortunately.
Sure they add some comfort but R1250GS is easily way more comfortable at the same weight.
In my country 790R is more expensive than fully loaded F850GSA due to BMW discounts and the KTM are sold out still.
About the same weight as the GS1250, but much less power, so how does that engine pull with all that metal?
excellent review, i have a question, wich one you prefer between this 850 adventure and the 850 standard??
Another great video! Great shooting. Great landscape. Great bike? lol
Great video n review .. for sure this is my next bike .. anyway greeting from Malaysia .. 👏🏼👏🏼
hi!
What do you think wich one is better for road and lots of highway? tracer 900 or f850gs? I know this is a real adv but i rode both of them and i cant decide...f850 is a great machine but the tracers power is incredible.... Or should i wait for the f850 rs version 17" wheels?
André CC Suzuki V Strom 1000 :)) now, the Tracer is sportier, but less comfortable than the F850GS. The F850GS feels a bit soft for road use. It depends on your riding style. Tracer = 100% street, sport touring, less comfort. F850GS - not that fast, but more comfortable. The RS should come up in a couple of months so if you're not in a hurry
Can`t wait to go to the Alps next week :) your great video is like an appetizer :)
Thanks for the review,I enjoy mine
Very very good . Great ride .
Nice review bro. Looking forward to your review of Tenere 700. Then I need your opinion about which one you would buy for adventure rides (90% on road / 10% offroad) :)
#1 Africa Twin
#2 BMW GS 850 / GS 850 adventure
#3 Tenere 700
Great review as always. One thing I don't like on this ADV bike is its small fuel tank , only, 4 US GL, not sufficient for ADV bike unless you consider shlaping Canisters
The 850GS is 4 gallons. The bike in this video, an 850GS Adventure is 6.1 gallons. At 50 mpg you have a 300-mile range.
Great review. How is QuickShifter on this model? Is it smooth?
Beautiful ride and a nice bike. Big for an 850. These 850s look like 1200s.
Exactly - Why pay lots more for a GS1250 when this thing does everything the 1250 does at considerably less wonga.... Much less heavy and cumbersome too. It's a no brainer. If looking for a real bargain look at the Honda CB500X for only £6,000 and another capable budget adventure bike.
@@wewew9783 Funny you mention the Honda, I just reviewed it on my channel. Put the video out this morning.
@@DifferentSpokesTV Hilarious.... Yes I read the one page review in last week's MCN and the Honda CB500X got awesome review. A real super bargain to boot for a lightweight adventure bike capable of Round the World use. I also like the look of it with chunky 50/50 Tyres. For only 6K new what's not to like. I'm looking for a lighter bike than my current GSX1250 FA (Bandit with fairing) and I may just buy a CB500X. I'm 56 with bad back and I don't need a 1250 any longer. Funny how bikes have got bigger - a large bike in 1980s was a 750 now it's a 1200! No I'm convinced the way to go is to downsize to a middleweight.
@@DifferentSpokesTV Just subscribed to your channel. Thanks
Cool, thanks!
Which helmet is that? Awesome video as always!
Hi Cristian. @DriveMag Riders.
From that Revit jacket and the BWM Rallye jacked you tested later which one is better?
Riding the most of the time around 26-32 Celsius
maybe it is time to compare 850GSA AfricaTwin AS (without DCT) Tiger 800XCA and ... KTM 790Adv? with the passenger onboard.
great video and review! what helmet are you using?
Thank you.Greetings from İstanbul
Great video thanks!! do you think the bike is not enough powerful for duo travels with full luggages or it is powerful still? 👍
Great vid. Thanks for making it. BTW, what GPS Navi is that?
It BMW's Navigator. (Garmin)
Great video my friend, greattings from Mexico. good trip to you
your very lucky guy,you review a lot and frankly ride those various ang latest bikes.,👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍👍👍
Thank you
I got v strom 650xt I would might change to 850gs or crf100 what would you think
Your rewires are good
Awesome review! What a pig of a motorcycle though. When I first saw it at a dealership I could sware it was a 1200 judging by its size!
Is it good for a 163 cm short person?? Do you recommend it ? Regards
How would you compare it to Triumphs GT PRO?
With no real weight advantage hard to choose this one over the R1250
7000 euros is not an advantage?
BMW f850 gsa: 538 pounds, bmw r1250 gsa :590 pounds, I'll say 52 pounds is a lot!
@@12masterr - True, but there are other options 100 pounds less weight. 52 pounds not enough for me to make a change and would not go with the GSA version in either case
@@paul.vanhout57 honestly, if I have the choice I'll go with the 1250,just because I was used to the power of the 1200 I had before,and you are right about the weight felling, look like tje center of gravity on the 1250 is lower and even when weight more,feels the same.also I miss the power!
I like to see review of royal Enfield Himalayan adventure bike.....
Hi bro, nice yo see you again. I saw that you are wearing the Offtrack Jacket. I am looking for buy this one or the Tornado 2, I am from Mexico and we can reach 36 Celsius degrees on summer, I know that this is bike review, but can you share with me your experiences using this jacket ? Normally in my country at morning we have 12-25 Celsius degrees and in the afternoon we can reach 36 degrees.. You think this jacket is great to use on my weather/country ? or Tornado is better ? I will really appreciate your help on this.
Which one you prefer and why? BMW F850GS Adv. (with chinese engine) vs Honda Africa Twin Adv. Sports DCT?
Hi guys I'm 1.98m and are worried about the the wind are the new adjustable screen any good
What time of year was this please?
Where is exactly not speed limit ? 180 km/h, it is amazing.
Nice video, thanks. Were you at the Ducati factory on Monday 13th May? If not I saw your double.
It wasn't me. :)
How tall are you, bro?
I forgot... the only thing (and not just) in which it is clearly superior compared to the 1250 (and I believe also the next 1300) is consumption !!!
Hvala
Review the Royal Enfield Himalayan!
I like his helmet, anyone know the brand?
What is the model of your helmet ?
Which drone do you use?
He got about 50mpg (U.S.) for you curious folks.
What kind of helmet are you using?
If you were to choose GS 850 or GS 850 adventure?
Depends on what you want to do with it. The GSA has a larger tank (2 additional gallons), larger front fairings (more wind blockage), better wind screen, more comfort for long distance touring. Consider what you would add/change to the GS to do what you want - upgraded windscreen, add engine guards, add luggage rack, etc. Whatever you add will add weight and cost. If you're not adding much, the GS might be the better option. If you're adding a lot, you may be better off with the GSA.
How much is the price of a bicycle US $
What are the rev’it gloves you use at the end?
Dirt 3
For commuting and touring 1-2 time a year, this GSA od the regular GS?
You probably already made a decsion. The GSA has a larger tank, larger front fairings (more wind blockage), better wind screen. Consider what you would add to the GS - upgrade the GS windscreen, add engine guards, add luggage rack, etc. Whatever you add will add weight and cost. If you're not adding much, the GS might be the better option. If you're adding a lot, you may be better off with the GSA.
So many people buy a GS when they should buy an XR. You are not one of them. But for this type of work you should just get an F900XR.
Guys is the bike still good for person of 171cm height?
R80GS was better- 32 litre tank with shaft drive. You could Cruise 120 - 140 kmh (not that I ever did) and no chain to oil or adjust.
Actually I like your videos, now a bit disappointed .. clear you don't like this f850gs, but make it clear. Not the rusty way you pay attention on the alu bags than the entire bike configuration. Stay cool bro - cheers and we love this mid range All around BM
Which country is that ?
So the begining has to sound like a horror movie... 😅
Your helmet please..?
Brand name & price.
Thanks in advance
It looks like the Nexx adventure helmet
sorry that music ruins it for me!! at review I want to here bike not music
How far is 500k in freedom units?
jeff medvin funny. We call the old standard imperial. It is 300 miles.
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Would it be possible to subtitle your video.
Why? His English is fine
Come on BMW. YOu call it a touring bike. Why not put a farking windscreen on it? I have a 650 and F700GS and both without a good windscreen.
WTF?
R80GS was better- 32 litre tank with shaft drive. Cruise 120 - 140 kms and no chain to oil or
👍👍👌🙋♂️🇬🇷
I didn’t come here to listen to music when your riding...
We er you now
I have to be honest in saying I can't see the point of this bike apart from people with too much money to spend.
People that want 30kg less weight than a 1200gs and not the danger of damaging the cylinders.
It is the same price (almost) as the triumph 800 xca and the honda africa twin.
1500 euro more than the ktm 790.
If you use about the same option list. Ypu even have a few additional things on the bmw then so.
I have been looking at this middle class as I dont want a huge too heavy one, so I have been comparing spec sheets and prices, taking what I want in the options.
Like heated grips and cruise control.
You pretty much summed up bmw bikes.